The 7mm PRC is the new kid in town. Loaded with Federals 170 grain Terminal Accent this just might be the one gun, one caliber, one bullet for all North American hunting.
With this load in my 7prc, I’m getting avg 2981fps (22” barrel) 0.75-0.90” groups @100yds. Load worked fantastic on my black bear this spring. Complete pass thru frontal diagonally across and exited rear (60 yds shot) Bear ran ~ 50 yds before piling up. I’m very impressed with its performance.
Would this ammo be considered better than hornady match 180g for 7prc. I used it in a bergara hmr and though it would be a bit better. Searching for another but I target from the bench.
Great shooting given that rickety table! Very interesting to see expansion testing beyond the typical 10-100 yds. That round mushrooms hugely but still holds together under 100 yds. Good to see it still opening up well at 1,000. Should be a perfect bullet at normal 50-600 yds hunting. I never appreciated shots beyond 300 yds until moving to Texas. You can have some wide open spaces with no cover. Anywhere from Texas and Arizona to North Dakota and Montana can be this way. Even Eastern Washington and especially Eastern Oregon. Thanks for a great review.
That looks eerily similar to a Barnes tsx with nickel coating. It would be nice to see if you could get your hands on the barbed projectile for comparison
Great shooting brother. Wow I'm impressed my hunting long shot was 508 yards with 300 wsm but I'm definitely looking in to the 7mm prc 600 is my max at 1000 it does 600 will be lights out
It has nothing to distance and everything to do with the skill of the shooter and quality of his/her ammunition......I mad many kills from 1100 yard and under but I shoot thousands of round per year in practice I also don't screw with factory ammo.
@@stephenferguson6363 as much as I believe in a shooters skill, at 1100 yards I would think it has more to do with time to target and movement of said target. At 1100 you are talking about 1.5 seconds of flight time on a moving target. That target moving is an uncontrolled variable I wouldn’t take a chance on. Finally, living in the mountains and being out of shape, there’s no way I’d want to pack out game from that far out.
@3RBallistics I live and hunt in northern bc I spend about 70% of my time chasing mnt goats the rest hunting elk, mule deer,moose and stone sheep. 1km can definitely mean some real nasty terrain differences lol for sure but we also have drainage measured in 10s of kms or more im used to paying out game a very very longs ways.
I shot two of my 7PRCs yesterday. Stopped by a local store and they had 2 boxes of the Terminal Ascent but I just couldn't bring myself to buy it at $67/box. Especially since I handload. I may reconsider. Going back to the range in a bit to shoot one of them again and that store is on the way I also shot the Federal ELDX ammo in both yesterday. One was decent at MOA the other didn't like it at all. I did get lucky with my Tikka 7PRC as it has now shot five 3 shot groups all half MOA with factory Hornady 160 CX Outfitter ammo. Good thing too because i bought 3 cases for a steal on auction Those Fed TA are amazing Yes please try Berger 180 VLD, Hornady ELDX and Hornady ELDM since I hear a lot that those match grade bullets open fine and work well in hunting. I did kill a deer last season with my 7PRC and ELDM factory ammo
I will say the Fed Terminal Ascent surprised me. After 15 shots it had a standard deviation of 12 and an extreme spread of 37.7. Average velocity was 3003.2 fps. I’ll see how soon I can get back out there to test those other factory loads.
The hornadys are way outclassed by the terminal ascent. They're usually accurate but blow up on game. They're fragile cup and core bullets vs bonded match ammo in terminal ascent
@@daltonv5206 Terminal Ascent most certainly a superior bullet for performance on game but on a deer it doesn't matter. The cheapest cup/core kill deer just fine and a Terminal Ascent is overkill but if it shoots well, I'll use them. I finalized a 200 grain TA in one of my 300WSMs and the 136 grain in one of my 270s.
Great video! Have you been following Little Crow Gun Werks 7mm series’s? I think it’s great. Again good job! I for myself, think I should stay at 600 yards for hunting.
With this kind of expansion at 1000, I would be a little concerned at 50-100 being so soft, I have blown up ELDx on water jugs at 100 from a 7rem mag. But they do seem extremely accurate.
@@nicklee3956 surprisingly the federal terminal ascent. I usually have less spread and a standard deviation around 10-15. Average speeds hovering close to 3000 fps.
@@worland89 I will be testing those in a few weeks. I have tested the Fiocchi (loaded with 150gr Barnes TSX). I just about two weeks to get that video up.
I have seen vid of shooting an elk at 1,376 yards with a 7 RM. That was the Gunwerks video with his son. Aaron over there now wishes they had not taken the shot. His son is always practicing at the 1k yard range and has shot that gun before. He was competent. And they did hike over there to harvest the elk. Aaron at Gunwerks points out that the bullet did not perform like he wanted. For me, impact velocity is key. You could have a heavy bullet and in the math, it has a lot of energy. But if it does not expand properly, it could pencil through. That being said, the guy at Little Crow prefers monolithic copper, like the CX. Point being that it will normally create an exit wound that helps with deflation of the chest cavity and exsanguination. It is also often the case of having to shoot twice or thrice at an animal, regardless of distance. There have been plenty of animals wounded at "ethical" distances of less than 300 yards. That being said, my area allows to about 300 yards of sight lines but mule deer in the western part of the state do suggest being able to shoot at least 200 yards. It's a canyon with no trees.
Kind of a shot in the dark but does anyone know where some of this ammo is? This is my favorite ammo but I’m down to one box and I can’t find anymore I would appreciate any help
I have a video out on this but I believe I was getting something around 1” - 0.8” groups. I will admit that I feel the rifle can do better and I’m more to blame for the groups I got in the video.
I also have a 7mm rem mag but do not get those velocities out of the 180gr Berger VLD match. I’m usually around 2800fps. I do get faster velocities out of the 140gr bullets but then we aren’t really comparing the same bullets.
Not Factory loaded for sure due to bullet length and needing to stay in SAAMI spec. Also, Federal loads a 155gr TA in 7rem and it only gets 3000fps....The 160gr Trophy Bonded is going 2900fps and a Berger Hybrid 168 gr is 2870 FPS. You would be pushing that 7mm Rem REAL hard to get 3000fps let alone 3100fps out of a 170gr.
@@Whiteghostkennels Terminal Ascent 155gr max load is 71.2 gr of RL26...It is rated right at 3100fps and it is a compressed load. No chance you are loading that 170gr TA and pushing it 3100fps out of a 7rem.
@@wcb5890 I get 3090fps with a 180 gr Berger VLD., 72 gr of Retumbo, federal 215 primer., Remington brass. 1-9” twist Brux barrel 25”. COAL 3.47575”. I shot through two chronographs and a lab radar at the same time. They were all within a few feet on every shot and no signs of pressure. It can be done.
@@jdirt1982 I just finished filming the first part of the Norma 165 video today. Unfortunately, weather is going to keep me from finishing the video for about a week. I hope to have the finished video out in about 10 days
You hit a house fly at 1033 yards. Luck or not that was AWESOME!!
The 7mm PRC is the new kid in town. Loaded with Federals 170 grain Terminal Accent this just might be the one gun, one caliber, one bullet for all North American hunting.
If we’re strictly talking hunting and not long range target shooting a 280ai makes the 7prc obsolete.
Federal is my choice of ammo for hunting. Thanks for making this video. Very informative!
I just love how the terminal ascent looks
With this load in my 7prc, I’m getting avg 2981fps (22” barrel) 0.75-0.90” groups @100yds. Load worked fantastic on my black bear this spring. Complete pass thru frontal diagonally across and exited rear (60 yds shot) Bear ran ~ 50 yds before piling up. I’m very impressed with its performance.
Wow. Nice. With the 170 grain?
@ Yep
@ Yes with the 170gr. 😀
Federal - the HONEST ammo manufacturer!
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Unlike Hornady
Great video and test. Yea, we wanna see more bullets with these same parameters.
@@youngin881 on its way
great work. i just picked up a 7 prc, love it.
Great video, love my 7prc
Best bullet ever made
Facts
Would this ammo be considered better than hornady match 180g for 7prc. I used it in a bergara hmr and though it would be a bit better. Searching for another but I target from the bench.
Love my 20inch barrel 7prc with a can
The terminal ascent is 100 times better for hunting than the eldx “hunting “ bullet.
Just picked up a browning xbolt in 7PRC. Gonna have to try these rounds to see if the gun likes them.
I got an x bolt in 7prc my gun loves them 0.5 inch groups strange thing is had to put a whole box through it and clean twice before it would group
Same combo I am looking at.
I use the 130 in my 6.5 and its the best rounds ive found atleast for mine, but mainly performance on deer
Cool video dude.. thanks for the information..
Great shooting given that rickety table! Very interesting to see expansion testing beyond the typical 10-100 yds. That round mushrooms hugely but still holds together under 100 yds. Good to see it still opening up well at 1,000. Should be a perfect bullet at normal 50-600 yds hunting. I never appreciated shots beyond 300 yds until moving to Texas. You can have some wide open spaces with no cover. Anywhere from Texas and Arizona to North Dakota and Montana can be this way. Even Eastern Washington and especially Eastern Oregon. Thanks for a great review.
That looks eerily similar to a Barnes tsx with nickel coating. It would be nice to see if you could get your hands on the barbed projectile for comparison
Great shooting brother. Wow I'm impressed my hunting long shot was 508 yards with 300 wsm but I'm definitely looking in to the 7mm prc 600 is my max at 1000 it does 600 will be lights out
The amount of shots you had to take, is exactly why it's not an ethical hunting distance
I 100% agree. However, I will say I’m a novice at long distance shots past 600 yards.
Maybe not for him
It has nothing to distance and everything to do with the skill of the shooter and quality of his/her ammunition......I mad many kills from 1100 yard and under but I shoot thousands of round per year in practice I also don't screw with factory ammo.
@@stephenferguson6363 as much as I believe in a shooters skill, at 1100 yards I would think it has more to do with time to target and movement of said target. At 1100 you are talking about 1.5 seconds of flight time on a moving target. That target moving is an uncontrolled variable I wouldn’t take a chance on. Finally, living in the mountains and being out of shape, there’s no way I’d want to pack out game from that far out.
@3RBallistics I live and hunt in northern bc I spend about 70% of my time chasing mnt goats the rest hunting elk, mule deer,moose and stone sheep. 1km can definitely mean some real nasty terrain differences lol for sure but we also have drainage measured in 10s of kms or more im used to paying out game a very very longs ways.
Yes on both eld x loads
I shot two of my 7PRCs yesterday. Stopped by a local store and they had 2 boxes of the Terminal Ascent but I just couldn't bring myself to buy it at $67/box. Especially since I handload. I may reconsider. Going back to the range in a bit to shoot one of them again and that store is on the way
I also shot the Federal ELDX ammo in both yesterday. One was decent at MOA the other didn't like it at all. I did get lucky with my Tikka 7PRC as it has now shot five 3 shot groups all half MOA with factory Hornady 160 CX Outfitter ammo. Good thing too because i bought 3 cases for a steal on auction
Those Fed TA are amazing
Yes please try Berger 180 VLD, Hornady ELDX and Hornady ELDM since I hear a lot that those match grade bullets open fine and work well in hunting. I did kill a deer last season with my 7PRC and ELDM factory ammo
I will say the Fed Terminal Ascent surprised me. After 15 shots it had a standard deviation of 12 and an extreme spread of 37.7. Average velocity was 3003.2 fps.
I’ll see how soon I can get back out there to test those other factory loads.
The hornadys are way outclassed by the terminal ascent. They're usually accurate but blow up on game. They're fragile cup and core bullets vs bonded match ammo in terminal ascent
@@daltonv5206 Terminal Ascent most certainly a superior bullet for performance on game but on a deer it doesn't matter. The cheapest cup/core kill deer just fine and a Terminal Ascent is overkill but if it shoots well, I'll use them. I finalized a 200 grain TA in one of my 300WSMs and the 136 grain in one of my 270s.
That is impressive mushrooms
The federal tipped fusion would be interesting
Thanks for the video. I have a box that I plan to try in my Browning X-Bolt. I would love to see your results w/Hornady ELD-X.
Great video! Have you been following Little Crow Gun Werks 7mm series’s? I think it’s great.
Again good job! I for myself, think I should stay at 600 yards for hunting.
Shot a village of flies back in desert storm with a browning 50.. still dont sleep at night
my anxiety at the garmin just barely hanging on the edge!!!!
If it makes you feel better, the very next shot after the cameras went out, it fell off the table. Luckily those things are built well.
With this kind of expansion at 1000, I would be a little concerned at 50-100 being so soft, I have blown up ELDx on water jugs at 100 from a 7rem mag.
But they do seem extremely accurate.
Try Some Barnes Bullets’s?
I have a 307 range xp in 7prc and I’m liking it a lot I’m shoot 180 eldm shooting 3/4 moa. U should try the 180 eldm
Please do the eldx
As much as I think the terminal accent is a great hunting bullet, I think it's a little bold to claim it is deadly at 1250 yards.
I would love to see all copper loads go head to head in your rifle.
With velocity, expansion, accuracy
Great video man!
Hey what factory rounds has been your most consistent on speeds?
@@nicklee3956 surprisingly the federal terminal ascent. I usually have less spread and a standard deviation around 10-15. Average speeds hovering close to 3000 fps.
@@3RBallistics thank you man, i have been looking at the Fed premium. but will look into the Terminal Ascents too
Can you do this same test at a 100 yards now? The eldx seems pretty proven at extended ranges but tends to blow up on short ranges
@@nreyes1100 I’ve been working on this. I’ll put something together showing 100 and 500 yards in the next few months.
What about the new Barnes LR 160 grains?
@@worland89 I will be testing those in a few weeks. I have tested the Fiocchi (loaded with 150gr Barnes TSX). I just about two weeks to get that video up.
Im running the 180 eldm out of my 7mm prc with n560 2857 es of 13 sd of 6.6 for 8 shots
I have seen vid of shooting an elk at 1,376 yards with a 7 RM. That was the Gunwerks video with his son. Aaron over there now wishes they had not taken the shot. His son is always practicing at the 1k yard range and has shot that gun before. He was competent. And they did hike over there to harvest the elk.
Aaron at Gunwerks points out that the bullet did not perform like he wanted.
For me, impact velocity is key. You could have a heavy bullet and in the math, it has a lot of energy. But if it does not expand properly, it could pencil through. That being said, the guy at Little Crow prefers monolithic copper, like the CX. Point being that it will normally create an exit wound that helps with deflation of the chest cavity and exsanguination.
It is also often the case of having to shoot twice or thrice at an animal, regardless of distance. There have been plenty of animals wounded at "ethical" distances of less than 300 yards.
That being said, my area allows to about 300 yards of sight lines but mule deer in the western part of the state do suggest being able to shoot at least 200 yards. It's a canyon with no trees.
What?
@@NODAK-x9x FOAD
Kind of a shot in the dark but does anyone know where some of this ammo is? This is my favorite ammo but I’m down to one box and I can’t find anymore I would appreciate any help
In your video, how long is your barrel?
Thanks for your video could you please do the federal 175 grain eld-x looks like you're in New Mexico Aurora Arizona just curious
Yep, the ranch is in New Mexico 👍
Nice im in hobbs,nm i use to live in Capitan Nm for8 yrs
Whats better this load or the 175 ELD-X??
@@karsongilbert4832 I would prefer this load but look for future videos. I have 4 new factory loads I’ll be testing soon
Do the same test with the Eldx
what's the g7 on those?
What kind of groups are you getting with that ruger 7 prc at 100 yds?
I have a video out on this but I believe I was getting something around 1” - 0.8” groups. I will admit that I feel the rifle can do better and I’m more to blame for the groups I got in the video.
These bullets are amazing best made been telling clowns on you tube for months these rounds would get 3k per second 😊
Why? 7PRC is rated for 900yds. If you want 1000 or more you need the 300PRC.
@@markchester7584 because the back of the Federal actually says good to 1,275 yard. They claimed it and I tested it.
That fly...😂
What barrel length were you shooting?
The Ruger American Go Wild with a 24” barrel
Too bad the 170's are impossible to find these days
Why Not A Better cartridge like the 7 Mag?
yes yoiu did hit a fly
The 7mm rem mag will do the same with the same bullet and you will even get more about 100fps more or better
I also have a 7mm rem mag but do not get those velocities out of the 180gr Berger VLD match. I’m usually around 2800fps. I do get faster velocities out of the 140gr bullets but then we aren’t really comparing the same bullets.
Reloader 26 is your best friend ‘ it probably would do good in that 7prc also but it already looks very good
Not Factory loaded for sure due to bullet length and needing to stay in SAAMI spec. Also, Federal loads a 155gr TA in 7rem and it only gets 3000fps....The 160gr Trophy Bonded is going 2900fps and a Berger Hybrid 168 gr is 2870 FPS. You would be pushing that 7mm Rem REAL hard to get 3000fps let alone 3100fps out of a 170gr.
@@Whiteghostkennels Terminal Ascent 155gr max load is 71.2 gr of RL26...It is rated right at 3100fps and it is a compressed load. No chance you are loading that 170gr TA and pushing it 3100fps out of a 7rem.
@@wcb5890 I get 3090fps with a 180 gr Berger VLD., 72 gr of Retumbo, federal 215 primer., Remington brass. 1-9” twist Brux barrel 25”. COAL 3.47575”. I shot through two chronographs and a lab radar at the same time. They were all within a few feet on every shot and no signs of pressure. It can be done.
These clearly aren't using the same powder that Hornady uses that can't even hit their advertised velocity.
Are you going to test norma 165???
@@jdirt1982 I just finished filming the first part of the Norma 165 video today. Unfortunately, weather is going to keep me from finishing the video for about a week. I hope to have the finished video out in about 10 days
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