I so whole heartedly agree with the fact that there simply is no way to take a break, for anytime really! I also wholeheartedly agree with the domain system as it allows you to take a break. Seeing as I'm heading into kvk during the summer, I'm going on Vacation for 3/4ths of the summer months leading camps, hence no time to play ROK nor to meet my requirements! Which would take about 4 hours a day of playing if there were fights every day, which there aren't.
They have to implement the ( vacation system) where when a player activate it you are basically removed from the kd rankings and will not able to leave out of vacation mode until 30 days at least and if your 30 days were in part with kvk registration you will not able to join the kvk with your kd so this will not allow people to abuse this system for kvk match making.
It’s also worth noting that the most revenue Lilith generated was during the peak of the pandemic - and something like this simply can’t be replicated easily since everyones’ lives stopped and people were actively seeking ways to spend their time while at home .. Keep up the good work Brian
ROK reached its peak revenue in 2020 and 2021 for the obvious reasons, As the game have generated $3.5 billion as of today. it generated a total of $650 million in global revenue in 2019. Monthly revenue averaged $65-70 million in 2020, but after ROK China was introduced in 2021, this figure declined to $30-35 million per month for the global server. Nonetheless, in the first month following its launch, ROK China achieved a staggering revenue of 1 billion yuan, equivalent to $140 million USD in a single month. In 2022, the combined revenue from both servers was $420 million, which decreased to $280 million in 2023. It's clear that the game is losing popularity, not only shown from revenue stats, but you are likely feeling it in your kingdom as well. Is the game dying? YES. Is the game dead? NO.
Sort out crystal tech and autarch system then you’re onto a winner. Crystals need to be easier to obtain for free, crystal tech needs to be nerfed or it needs to be less pricey. The first method is so easy to implement. They should have Karuak levels 1, 2 and 3 before Z5. Then level 4 before Z7 and level 5 before KL. The current schedule is a massive problem (explained below) that disproportionately impacts F2P and low spend players (majority of the playerbase), pressurises mid spend players to spend more than they want to, causing dissatisfaction. As for high spenders, they probably wonder why its so absurdly expensive, yet they feel forced to because without the crystal tech, the things in their account they have spent so much to obtain lose value. And feeling forced to spend like that is bad for player satisfaction. As it stands you only get level 1 and 2 before KL (at least in my current kvk). This is utterly ridiculous, there should be absolutely ZERO levels after kingsland. Many players who have fought hard want to rest from the game, not to grind out 90 karuak levels (if they even have the troops to finish it) which give next to NO COMPETITIVE BENEFIT during the kvk (this is a serious problem since grinding towards improving your fighting ability and then seeing the fruits of your labour is a MASSIVE amount of the appeal in the game). As for the other two points, you cant nerf something and keep it the same price so both go hand in hand. Nerfing it would be good because it refocuses the need to develop your account through other means, and player satisfaction goes up by both feeling less forced and because people that spend anyway can focus the spending on things they could keep in the account forever. This was longer than i was expecting it to be, but TLDR: These would massively improve kvk experience, and i guess make it less demanding on rss and speeds to improve the off season experience
When I was feeling bleaker a couple months ago, I brought up nerfing crystal tech on stream. As I've felt things stabilize (in my own RoK world), I dropped that perhaps unrealistic (but useful) suggestion. A crystal tech nerf would be great for the game and the community!
@@BrianKuhTV Definitely agree, I’m not sure if this was an angle you took when you previously raised the issue, but the stat comparison between crystal tech VS the iconic tier system is so backwards. Having a refined ring and horn both at iconic 4 is VERY impressive, but that only benefits 1 march and the damage to rally and garrisons benefit is half that you get from kvk tech, and the combined unit capacity earned from level 3 is less than 1/10th than unit capacity earned from kvk tech, and thats across every single march.
I worry that there was a focus on low activity kingdoms, they don’t impact, it’s a churn issue in big kingdoms that sees a ‘you’re not giving enough’ mentality that drives people to chill in smaller kingdoms. Merges I do feel is a good solution but some people play where they can and need relaxed space to do so
An excellent video, thank you and you make excellent points, particularly early game>SoC transition imo. I think you've missed the elephant in the room, though ... a lot of people just woke up one morning and thought it just isn't worth the money. Hundreds of dollars is actually insanity, let alone the rest of what people feel the need to "invest" is what a lot of my friends were saying.
Age of Empire will put a end to rok, things wat players want AoE is doing it. Gameplay is much better for example zeroing a city in AoE fighting is being outside city walls then u take fighting inside the city walls for closed quarters and a rally literally goes inside the city to hit main Fortress which look sweet. Plus u can set auto barb killing with certain troops an commanders.
Hi, i absolutly agree with your critic about the missing opportunities to be absence from the game. Even every job gives you the chance to go on a family holiday without any " punishment ". Like if you go on on a holiday trip during kvk you weaken your allies and friends and kingdom in the game. Not to mention that you do not get any daily rewards for your own account. That´s, imo, way too demanding and already makes me think to quit also the game. The 24/7 365 day works during the pandemic when everyone was locked down but now Lilith should figure something out to give people a chance to have a break without falling behind too much during the absence. Especially as a f2p or small/mid spender. If you are off the game for like 2 or 3 weeks, then it is even harder to keep up as it already is as a f2p or small/mid spender.. Thanks for showing the issues of the game in this video. i think you really point out the current issues, the " no break chance " is the one which bother me the most but you also mentioned the issue with the dead kd´s etc in a very good way. so the especially the " kd merge " idea sounds really good.
Your opinion about domains seems a bit shortsighted. It may be good for the upper echelon of kvks, like the ones your kingdom fights, but in lower seeds having to fight against or alongside the secondary domain (i.e. farms domain) of a big kingdom feels horrible. There should be just one domain per big kingdom and the rest of the kingdom should just be cut off from any kvk
Good point. I agree that the secondary and third domains should just be left out of KvK. It stinks for a few players, but I guess their other option is getting zeroed by their friends in home kingdom.
The old tech also had 30% attack and 30% defense for all troops, 30% dmg dealt increase. With very limited ways to obtain crystals, while only averaged maybe two awakened legendary marches back then. However today, most of the veteran F2P players would have 4-5 pairs of meta marches.
this is not a game for an casual player , demanding 4-6 hours a day to be decent in it players who quit long ago and have low kp imposible to be accepted by someone , just fly to dead kd play alone , nah , i enjoy call of dragons more than rok , more f2p fiendly and safer and casual than rok , rok remain a nice time til kvk 3 and first kvk 4 in rest to much of a grind and time
I think it depends on the kingdom. I started a new city in kingdom 3540 and after a week I'm ranked #3,393 in Sunset Canyon, so there are roughly as many daily active users in that kingdom as there are playing the game New World at any given time.
Every KD needs to be forced to use the Domain System and whitelist all the active accounts they want to be allowed to enter Lost Kingdom. Matchmaking is currently completely broken for any KD that doesn't qualify for the Domain System. Small KDs that don't qualify for the Domain System abuse the 30-day inactivity. They fly t5 farms into the sky so they don't count toward matchmaking, and bring them back once KvK begins to hide power and ch25s from matchmaking, while still being able to use the cities to fill flags and impact the KvK. If small KDs were forced to use the Domain System, this kind of abuse would not be possible. They would not be able to enter LK with all their T5 farms if they were not whitelisted on the Domain and their power taken into account for matchmaking.
actually, rok is not the first game like this....clash of kings was there along time ago...then rok adapted with better gameplay...in cok is crazy...a whale is practically invincible..they can even speed up their march to appear in 1-2 seconds in front of your castle...cok has been dying along time ago...still exist though...
I do think ROK is dying. So many alternate accounts rely on players managing tons of cities. Plus there are so many dead cities I tried to delete my old accounts yet they are still there to this day. Having to log in everyday is a pain to get the VIP heads. KVK is so time consuming u literally have to take days off work just to keep ur leadership happy. More proof is the low download of the game itself. this shows that no new players are incoming just new cities from old accounts. My kingdom is a C seed and they constantly want us to lower power which is opposite from a city building game.
I turn the graphics down on all the games I play, to make the visuals clearer and the performance higher. It goes back to "r_picmip 5" in Quake 3. If you know, you know.
I so whole heartedly agree with the fact that there simply is no way to take a break, for anytime really!
I also wholeheartedly agree with the domain system as it allows you to take a break. Seeing as I'm heading into kvk during the summer, I'm going on Vacation for 3/4ths of the summer months leading camps, hence no time to play ROK nor to meet my requirements! Which would take about 4 hours a day of playing if there were fights every day, which there aren't.
Preach brother! Threw a like. Wish a large number of people will watch this.
They have to implement the ( vacation system) where when a player activate it you are basically removed from the kd rankings and will not able to leave out of vacation mode until 30 days at least and if your 30 days were in part with kvk registration you will not able to join the kvk with your kd so this will not allow people to abuse this system for kvk match making.
It’s also worth noting that the most revenue Lilith generated was during the peak of the pandemic - and something like this simply can’t be replicated easily since everyones’ lives stopped and people were actively seeking ways to spend their time while at home ..
Keep up the good work Brian
ROK reached its peak revenue in 2020 and 2021 for the obvious reasons, As the game have generated $3.5 billion as of today. it generated a total of $650 million in global revenue in 2019. Monthly revenue averaged $65-70 million in 2020, but after ROK China was introduced in 2021, this figure declined to $30-35 million per month for the global server. Nonetheless, in the first month following its launch, ROK China achieved a staggering revenue of 1 billion yuan, equivalent to $140 million USD in a single month. In 2022, the combined revenue from both servers was $420 million, which decreased to $280 million in 2023. It's clear that the game is losing popularity, not only shown from revenue stats, but you are likely feeling it in your kingdom as well. Is the game dying? YES. Is the game dead? NO.
Great data. Thank you!
Sort out crystal tech and autarch system then you’re onto a winner. Crystals need to be easier to obtain for free, crystal tech needs to be nerfed or it needs to be less pricey.
The first method is so easy to implement. They should have Karuak levels 1, 2 and 3 before Z5. Then level 4 before Z7 and level 5 before KL. The current schedule is a massive problem (explained below) that disproportionately impacts F2P and low spend players (majority of the playerbase), pressurises mid spend players to spend more than they want to, causing dissatisfaction. As for high spenders, they probably wonder why its so absurdly expensive, yet they feel forced to because without the crystal tech, the things in their account they have spent so much to obtain lose value. And feeling forced to spend like that is bad for player satisfaction.
As it stands you only get level 1 and 2 before KL (at least in my current kvk). This is utterly ridiculous, there should be absolutely ZERO levels after kingsland. Many players who have fought hard want to rest from the game, not to grind out 90 karuak levels (if they even have the troops to finish it) which give next to NO COMPETITIVE BENEFIT during the kvk (this is a serious problem since grinding towards improving your fighting ability and then seeing the fruits of your labour is a MASSIVE amount of the appeal in the game).
As for the other two points, you cant nerf something and keep it the same price so both go hand in hand. Nerfing it would be good because it refocuses the need to develop your account through other means, and player satisfaction goes up by both feeling less forced and because people that spend anyway can focus the spending on things they could keep in the account forever.
This was longer than i was expecting it to be, but TLDR: These would massively improve kvk experience, and i guess make it less demanding on rss and speeds to improve the off season experience
When I was feeling bleaker a couple months ago, I brought up nerfing crystal tech on stream. As I've felt things stabilize (in my own RoK world), I dropped that perhaps unrealistic (but useful) suggestion. A crystal tech nerf would be great for the game and the community!
@@BrianKuhTV Definitely agree, I’m not sure if this was an angle you took when you previously raised the issue, but the stat comparison between crystal tech VS the iconic tier system is so backwards. Having a refined ring and horn both at iconic 4 is VERY impressive, but that only benefits 1 march and the damage to rally and garrisons benefit is half that you get from kvk tech, and the combined unit capacity earned from level 3 is less than 1/10th than unit capacity earned from kvk tech, and thats across every single march.
I worry that there was a focus on low activity kingdoms, they don’t impact, it’s a churn issue in big kingdoms that sees a ‘you’re not giving enough’ mentality that drives people to chill in smaller kingdoms. Merges I do feel is a good solution but some people play where they can and need relaxed space to do so
One thing I didn't mention is that it's good RoK is creating options for different types of play styles. Even some KvK maps are more casual friendly.
Shiiit better not be dying 😅 I just started playing and invested way to much time and money
I don't think there is better strategy game so it will not die yet
Don’t jinx it and don’t forget age of empire looking promising
Same hahaha
It will never die
Today is 2024 bro, why still playing a game with SEGA graphics 😂 Age of empires Mobile much better 👍
An excellent video, thank you and you make excellent points, particularly early game>SoC transition imo. I think you've missed the elephant in the room, though ... a lot of people just woke up one morning and thought it just isn't worth the money. Hundreds of dollars is actually insanity, let alone the rest of what people feel the need to "invest" is what a lot of my friends were saying.
Age of Empire will put a end to rok, things wat players want AoE is doing it. Gameplay is much better for example zeroing a city in AoE fighting is being outside city walls then u take fighting inside the city walls for closed quarters and a rally literally goes inside the city to hit main Fortress which look sweet. Plus u can set auto barb killing with certain troops an commanders.
Wow! Your comment will make me download and play this game now. Thank you 👍
I began RoK in Feb. 2020 so you've unquestionably piqued my interest
Hi, i absolutly agree with your critic about the missing opportunities to be absence from the game. Even every job gives you the chance to go on a family holiday without any " punishment ". Like if you go on on a holiday trip during kvk you weaken your allies and friends and kingdom in the game. Not to mention that you do not get any daily rewards for your own account. That´s, imo, way too demanding and already makes me think to quit also the game. The 24/7 365 day works during the pandemic when everyone was locked down but now Lilith should figure something out to give people a chance to have a break without falling behind too much during the absence. Especially as a f2p or small/mid spender. If you are off the game for like 2 or 3 weeks, then it is even harder to keep up as it already is as a f2p or small/mid spender.. Thanks for showing the issues of the game in this video. i think you really point out the current issues, the " no break chance " is the one which bother me the most but you also mentioned the issue with the dead kd´s etc in a very good way. so the especially the " kd merge " idea sounds really good.
Thanks for the feedback! It's always nice to hear I'm pointing out issues that other players care about.
the trend of kingdoms being lower and lower has not stopped it has been speeding up over the last year and not only for imperium
Great insight! Woot 2654
Your opinion about domains seems a bit shortsighted. It may be good for the upper echelon of kvks, like the ones your kingdom fights, but in lower seeds having to fight against or alongside the secondary domain (i.e. farms domain) of a big kingdom feels horrible. There should be just one domain per big kingdom and the rest of the kingdom should just be cut off from any kvk
Good point. I agree that the secondary and third domains should just be left out of KvK. It stinks for a few players, but I guess their other option is getting zeroed by their friends in home kingdom.
Also crystal tech every kvk.
The old tech also had 30% attack and 30% defense for all troops, 30% dmg dealt increase. With very limited ways to obtain crystals, while only averaged maybe two awakened legendary marches back then. However today, most of the veteran F2P players would have 4-5 pairs of meta marches.
Nice video 🌹🌺🌹
Glad you liked it!
Are you from 1770? I remember fighting againts you guys in KvK 2
Yes, I'm still in 1770. What kingdom were you in?
@@BrianKuhTV I used to be in 1776 we were starting point above you in the top right cornor in KvK 2
this is not a game for an casual player , demanding 4-6 hours a day to be decent in it players who quit long ago and have low kp imposible to be accepted by someone , just fly to dead kd play alone , nah , i enjoy call of dragons more than rok , more f2p fiendly and safer and casual than rok , rok remain a nice time til kvk 3 and first kvk 4 in rest to much of a grind and time
i started a new account, at day 55 i’m in the top 100 and chats are dead, player base is obviously low.
I think it depends on the kingdom. I started a new city in kingdom 3540 and after a week I'm ranked #3,393 in Sunset Canyon, so there are roughly as many daily active users in that kingdom as there are playing the game New World at any given time.
Every KD needs to be forced to use the Domain System and whitelist all the active accounts they want to be allowed to enter Lost Kingdom. Matchmaking is currently completely broken for any KD that doesn't qualify for the Domain System.
Small KDs that don't qualify for the Domain System abuse the 30-day inactivity. They fly t5 farms into the sky so they don't count toward matchmaking, and bring them back once KvK begins to hide power and ch25s from matchmaking, while still being able to use the cities to fill flags and impact the KvK.
If small KDs were forced to use the Domain System, this kind of abuse would not be possible. They would not be able to enter LK with all their T5 farms if they were not whitelisted on the Domain and their power taken into account for matchmaking.
actually, rok is not the first game like this....clash of kings was there along time ago...then rok adapted with better gameplay...in cok is crazy...a whale is practically invincible..they can even speed up their march to appear in 1-2 seconds in front of your castle...cok has been dying along time ago...still exist though...
I do think ROK is dying. So many alternate accounts rely on players managing tons of cities. Plus there are so many dead cities I tried to delete my old accounts yet they are still there to this day. Having to log in everyday is a pain to get the VIP heads. KVK is so time consuming u literally have to take days off work just to keep ur leadership happy. More proof is the low download of the game itself. this shows that no new players are incoming just new cities from old accounts. My kingdom is a C seed and they constantly want us to lower power which is opposite from a city building game.
Content creators will never admit it...Also, the domain system is horrible. Imagine having farms as camp mates for kvk, instant loss
So bad
Because too many kingdoms right now,so people spread out, that's why planty kingdoms don't have enough power
i think they need to introduce merging system already. like 5 kingdoms into 1
I still think it is weird to hear “play the game seriously”…so it is no a game, it is a job ? 🤔👀
I think a lot of RUclipsrs are trying to kill it because they couldn't keep going in the game and play bull sheesh games
Today is 2024 bro, why still playing a game with SEGA graphics 😂 Age of empires Mobile much better 👍
I turn the graphics down on all the games I play, to make the visuals clearer and the performance higher. It goes back to "r_picmip 5" in Quake 3. If you know, you know.