Man, thanks so much, this makes the time worthwhile mate..! I know what you mean too, it’s hard to relate to someone that’s a world too name when they are so talented, not too say their opinion isn’t amazing of course
So just bought a carver and yow within 2 months of each other. As a beginner the Carver CX is the best for a beginner. It’s so much more stable and I would say fun to generate speed and safely carve. The yow take so much motion to generate any speed and even if you put all your energy into pumping you can not go as fast as you can on a carver. The carver makes you feel like you are safely rooted to the board. Yow makes me feel like I’m going to fly off of it at any moment. Feels really dodgy to ride.
I am also considering Carver CX, Swelltech or YOW to train for surf but also would like to have some speed / commuting factor. How do you see it now after another months?
@@LaggerSVK so I would stand by CX bring the best surf cruiser and YoW being a surf trainer and smoothstar/swell tech as surf trainers. But they only train the 1 min piece of when you are on the wave. There is soooo much more to surfing talk at these boards just can not train for. My advise. Get 2 boards just start on the Carver.
Nice. I see Yows quite often with good reductions in price , and i think are actually a bargain (ive had one a year now). I totally recommend them too. And you were saying "deck length" right? 😄🤪 Cool edit dude.
Thanks Chuck, it’s the C7 I have on my carver. Don’t get me wrong though, I think that carver is a fantastic surfskate, it’s just too forgiving as a surf trainer, that short deck nature makes it easy to complete turns which you could have got hung up in on a wave which I think adds a false sense of achievement. The Yow forces the correct postural technique to complete the turn etc hovering you feedback while doing it….
For what it’s worth, the wheels are a big difference between Carver and Yow. My girlfriend and I have three Carvers (C7 truck) and the same Yow you’re using in the video. We love the Carvers, but the wheels (maybe bearings?) are noticeably slower. This is actually really helpful when you’re starting out. But, the Yow is much faster with its stock wheels.
Thanks Brendon, very different truck systems on both brands which is of course a good thing given individual preference is a huge factor which is to say people will just like what they like, I love my carver but realised when using it specifically to train the technical aspects of surfing which of course is it’s primary purpose (although good fun to bomb around on too), the carvers short nature makes it easy to complete turns where I wouldn’t have on a wave, the short nature allows me to whip the board round therefore giving me a false sense of completion where as on the Maraki system on the YOW isn’t so forgiving and makes me work the correct “surf” technique to compete the turn through the technical aspect. A we say in my job, train hard fight easy…… All that said, the carver is loads of fun and I hope you just enjoy doing what you and your gf use them for, just wanted to share my experience with them all
Kinda late to this but I thought would comment. I'm probably much better on a surf skate than I am at surfing, though still shite at both. But I actually think the problem in this video is the wheelbase. I have a Carver C7 on a 34-inch cruiser deck over an 18-inch wheelbase, which is much closer to my ideal stance on a surfboard. It is good for practicing turning, especially for the board size I ride. You can get enough power with the length that you kick out the back if you want. I've had a smoothstar and sold it, and it was funner to ride as a thing on its own, but I thought I was way too easy to turn. Also, they are a real pain to push, so people do that wiggle thing, which is fun but bad for surfing, I think. But I think a C7 on a short deck with short wheelbase is a bad idea. For those with little cash you can also just get a set of normal trucks and loosen them up and put some risers and it will pump. I have a popsicle with C5s which is a bit better for like transitions or if you end up going fakey, which I find very hard on C7. It might be the difference between surfing on a mal and a shortboard, I'm on 74-78s so being able to snap round on a smoothstar does not translate at all as way too easy to kick it round or even slide it right round- something I can do on a surfskate but no where near on a surfboard. I know Kale Brock prefers Smoothstar I think and OMBE guys thought Carvers were better. So maybe depends what level you are training and for what size of surfboard. But if you cannot turn at all properly on it then first step is probably to look at a board that lets you mimic your ideal surf stance. My tip for what it is worth for anyone new to it is to try and not train on a flat, even downhill is better than that. Ideal is a bank or if you can get in a bowl (something Ive not tried). I find it is only on a bank I can really feel the acceleration and that weight change. Or if you are training on a flat then push the board, don't wiggle it to get the initial speed.
Good video. Yes I agree, that yow gives you "something more" when climbing up the ramp, but I agree with S B M here, your Carver is too short for you. I moved from a 16 wheelbase to 17 wb and from a 31'' to 35'' and my skating immediately improved. Ciaoo!
Hey Carlo, thanks for the kind words..!! The carver is a 30” deck and the YOW is a 34”5, having had more time to think about it I think in terms of overall difficulty in a bowl that long deck would have been on the harder end of the YOW range so the fact it made me feel so confident tells me that the system just works better, for me at least
The surfskate you have is very important. Some surfskate brands will definitely make your training very limited because of the lack of performance. Also, is not the same to jump on a 34.5” deck and 20” WB or a 30” deck and a 17” WB of the same brand. Your stance will be a lot shorter on the 30” deck plus the short WB that will affect massively on your body weight distribution, lower centre of gravity and lots of things. Same like on a surfboard… I can’t have the same feeling on a 6”0 performance shape or a 6”0 fish 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Basically its about the wheel base.If your a novice then a longer wheelbase will be more stable/easier to ride… shorter wheelbase means more turn/less stable.. it’s about the wheelbase not the brand.
Hi pal, different brands have different surfskate trucks which make a big difference in performance. Is not just about the wheel base. Quick example: I’ve been training lots and lots of people for quite some time and depending on the surfskate they have is how I have to adjust the training session. A Carver CX will never perform like a YOW Meraki or a Smoothstar. A 20” WB on a Carver CX is a completely different board than a Yow Pukas Dark 20”WB for example. The Pukas Dark is one of my favourites boards because is a 34.5” deck which helps me to have a wider stance and that 20”WB on a Meraki allows me to turn very tight is I want to but with a longer WB I have a lot more rail to work with and that means more power, more drive and hold and so on. That’s why most of decks on Carver are short with a short WB, because the surfskate track doesn’t have have the performance like brands like Smoothstar and YOW and they have to go short to be able to have that surfing performance
@@thesurfskateacademy1068 I couldn't have word'd this better myself, So many important factors at play here all of course subject to what you want from a Surfskate, if its just to cruise round on then any brand will achieve that, if you want to specifically surf train, then outside of personal preference and feel of a board the system & therefor bend is hugely important. The whole point of this vid is exactly that, I love my carver as a cruiser but I cannot surf train on it & not just down to the length.......
@@solomonpayne5678 The carver C7 is the most similar like the Meraki but still, there quite a big difference in between them in terms of performance. It is also about your taste. Meraki has more performance
Great review. Thank you! It is very nice to see someone who is not an expert giving their opinion. The footage was much closer to my reality!
Man, thanks so much, this makes the time worthwhile mate..! I know what you mean too, it’s hard to relate to someone that’s a world too name when they are so talented, not too say their opinion isn’t amazing of course
Great vid mate. Super insightful and really professional 👌🏽
Thanks Adrenaline Athlete, that’s super kind of you to say…!
Well done Mitch, Im sure this is super helpful to people and its always nice to see it from an average ability individual
Thank you 🙏
So just bought a carver and yow within 2 months of each other. As a beginner the Carver CX is the best for a beginner. It’s so much more stable and I would say fun to generate speed and safely carve. The yow take so much motion to generate any speed and even if you put all your energy into pumping you can not go as fast as you can on a carver. The carver makes you feel like you are safely rooted to the board. Yow makes me feel like I’m going to fly off of it at any moment. Feels really dodgy to ride.
I am also considering Carver CX, Swelltech or YOW to train for surf but also would like to have some speed / commuting factor. How do you see it now after another months?
@@LaggerSVK so I would stand by CX bring the best surf cruiser and YoW being a surf trainer and smoothstar/swell tech as surf trainers. But they only train the 1 min piece of when you are on the wave. There is soooo much more to surfing talk at these boards just can not train for. My advise. Get 2 boards just start on the Carver.
Awesome video Mitch 🔥
Cheers Lads, Hope there was something of value in this..!
Nice. I see Yows quite often with good reductions in price , and i think are actually a bargain (ive had one a year now). I totally recommend them too. And you were saying "deck length" right? 😄🤪 Cool edit dude.
Yeah totally mate, they really are the same price now.
And yeah deck length man, such a big deal..!
Yewwww! Awesome video bro, I love the edit!
Thanks man, yeah I really like this one
Nice review. Helpful to watch average skater\surfer review. Thanks.
Thanks mate, my pleasure & glad it was of some use
Great review and comparison! 🤙🤙
Cheers Juan 🤙🤙
Awesome review Mitch! 🛹 🏄♂️
Awwww thank you Special K..!
And thank you for the board 🛹 😍😍💕💕
awesome, really helpful honest real world insight.
Cheers Kev, seeing this vid again reminded me of the extreme lack of sunshine up here right now 😱😱
Nice video
I have a yew and like it but just ordered a carver with c7 and was curious what truck is on your carver
Thanks Chuck, it’s the C7 I have on my carver. Don’t get me wrong though, I think that carver is a fantastic surfskate, it’s just too forgiving as a surf trainer, that short deck nature makes it easy to complete turns which you could have got hung up in on a wave which I think adds a false sense of achievement.
The Yow forces the correct postural technique to complete the turn etc hovering you feedback while doing it….
For what it’s worth, the wheels are a big difference between Carver and Yow. My girlfriend and I have three Carvers (C7 truck) and the same Yow you’re using in the video. We love the Carvers, but the wheels (maybe bearings?) are noticeably slower. This is actually really helpful when you’re starting out. But, the Yow is much faster with its stock wheels.
Thanks Brendon, very different truck systems on both brands which is of course a good thing given individual preference is a huge factor which is to say people will just like what they like, I love my carver but realised when using it specifically to train the technical aspects of surfing which of course is it’s primary purpose (although good fun to bomb around on too), the carvers short nature makes it easy to complete turns where I wouldn’t have on a wave, the short nature allows me to whip the board round therefore giving me a false sense of completion where as on the Maraki system on the YOW isn’t so forgiving and makes me work the correct “surf” technique to compete the turn through the technical aspect. A we say in my job, train hard fight easy……
All that said, the carver is loads of fun and I hope you just enjoy doing what you and your gf use them for, just wanted to share my experience with them all
Kinda late to this but I thought would comment. I'm probably much better on a surf skate than I am at surfing, though still shite at both.
But I actually think the problem in this video is the wheelbase. I have a Carver C7 on a 34-inch cruiser deck over an 18-inch wheelbase, which is much closer to my ideal stance on a surfboard. It is good for practicing turning, especially for the board size I ride.
You can get enough power with the length that you kick out the back if you want. I've had a smoothstar and sold it, and it was funner to ride as a thing on its own, but I thought I was way too easy to turn. Also, they are a real pain to push, so people do that wiggle thing, which is fun but bad for surfing, I think. But I think a C7 on a short deck with short wheelbase is a bad idea. For those with little cash you can also just get a set of normal trucks and loosen them up and put some risers and it will pump.
I have a popsicle with C5s which is a bit better for like transitions or if you end up going fakey, which I find very hard on C7. It might be the difference between surfing on a mal and a shortboard, I'm on 74-78s so being able to snap round on a smoothstar does not translate at all as way too easy to kick it round or even slide it right round- something I can do on a surfskate but no where near on a surfboard. I know Kale Brock prefers Smoothstar I think and OMBE guys thought Carvers were better. So maybe depends what level you are training and for what size of surfboard. But if you cannot turn at all properly on it then first step is probably to look at a board that lets you mimic your ideal surf stance.
My tip for what it is worth for anyone new to it is to try and not train on a flat, even downhill is better than that. Ideal is a bank or if you can get in a bowl (something Ive not tried). I find it is only on a bank I can really feel the acceleration and that weight change. Or if you are training on a flat then push the board, don't wiggle it to get the initial speed.
Great vid mate.
Thanks for the board to make it dude
Just some tips, Bend your knees and try to be lower. You r just to tall in the bowls, carver board too small/short for your height. hope that helps.
Thanks mate, yeah that’s super helpful, I’ll give it a bash and see how it goes
Good video. Yes I agree, that yow gives you "something more" when climbing up the ramp, but I agree with S B M here, your Carver is too short for you. I moved from a 16 wheelbase to 17 wb and from a 31'' to 35'' and my skating immediately improved. Ciaoo!
Great stuff 🔥
Thanks buddy 🤙🤙
Gotta buy a Yow now!
Yeah I’m gonna need to do the same mate
Great video! What are the dimensions of the 2 surfskate?
Hey Carlo, thanks for the kind words..!!
The carver is a 30” deck and the YOW is a 34”5, having had more time to think about it I think in terms of overall difficulty in a bowl that long deck would have been on the harder end of the YOW range so the fact it made me feel so confident tells me that the system just works better, for me at least
Great video, SUBSCRIBED! :)
Thank you so much dude…! 🤙🤙
Looks like a really quite park
The limiting factor is not the surf-skate you pick but how and what you train with it
The surfskate you have is very important.
Some surfskate brands will definitely make your training very limited because of the lack of performance.
Also, is not the same to jump on a 34.5” deck and 20” WB or a 30” deck and a 17” WB of the same brand.
Your stance will be a lot shorter on the 30” deck plus the short WB that will affect massively on your body weight distribution, lower centre of gravity and lots of things.
Same like on a surfboard… I can’t have the same feeling on a 6”0 performance shape or a 6”0 fish 🤙🏻🤙🏻
It’s defo a massive factor as pointed out by The SurfSkate Academy. Well put 🤙🤙
awesome!!
Thanks little dude 🤙🤙
Basically its about the wheel base.If your a novice then a longer wheelbase will be more stable/easier to ride… shorter wheelbase means more turn/less stable.. it’s about the wheelbase not the brand.
Hi pal, different brands have different surfskate trucks which make a big difference in performance. Is not just about the wheel base. Quick example: I’ve been training lots and lots of people for quite some time and depending on the surfskate they have is how I have to adjust the training session. A Carver CX will never perform like a YOW Meraki or a Smoothstar. A 20” WB on a Carver CX is a completely different board than a Yow Pukas Dark 20”WB for example.
The Pukas Dark is one of my favourites boards because is a 34.5” deck which helps me to have a wider stance and that 20”WB on a Meraki allows me to turn very tight is I want to but with a longer WB I have a lot more rail to work with and that means more power, more drive and hold and so on.
That’s why most of decks on Carver are short with a short WB, because the surfskate track doesn’t have have the performance like brands like Smoothstar and YOW and they have to go short to be able to have that surfing performance
@@thesurfskateacademy1068 I couldn't have word'd this better myself, So many important factors at play here all of course subject to what you want from a Surfskate, if its just to cruise round on then any brand will achieve that, if you want to specifically surf train, then outside of personal preference and feel of a board the system & therefor bend is hugely important. The whole point of this vid is exactly that, I love my carver as a cruiser but I cannot surf train on it & not just down to the length.......
@@thesurfskateacademy1068 is the carver cx or c7 more like the yow meraki?
@@solomonpayne5678 The carver C7 is the most similar like the Meraki but still, there quite a big difference in between them in terms of performance.
It is also about your taste.
Meraki has more performance
@@thesurfskateacademy1068 Thanks for the help, I think I’m gonna go with the Yow!🤙🏻
So what is the overall best surf skate to buy and what size?
Great insight into these two brands Mitch 🤌🏼
You legend mate, thanks brother 🤙🤙