Top 10 Hardest to make Creatures in Magic

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  • @Merlewhitefire
    @Merlewhitefire Год назад +388

    Wood Elemental also qualifies. Not only because the casting cost is absurd and punishing, but also because you have to declare you're summoning Wood Elemental and it's hard to do that when your opponent won't stop laughing hysterically at you.

    • @michaelstapley4878
      @michaelstapley4878 Год назад +28

      Sounds like the perfect creature. If he's too busy laughing he can't counter your spell!
      Talk about an instant win card.

    • @Merlewhitefire
      @Merlewhitefire Год назад +6

      @@michaelstapley4878 You may be onto something there.

    • @bluedestiny2710
      @bluedestiny2710 Год назад +6

      Hey, he might just give you the win out of pure respect XD

    • @takaohasiguchi433
      @takaohasiguchi433 Год назад +7

      They won't be laughing when I turn all lands into creatures, steal all their lands-turned-into-creatures, turn all land into forest, then sacrifice them for this.

    • @blubrry2200
      @blubrry2200 Год назад +1

      @@takaohasiguchi433 they laugh because they dont know its a combo peice and sac outlet in my yedora combo deck

  • @mystereave314
    @mystereave314 Год назад +215

    4:18 - I'm pretty sure Phage the Untouchable's "you literally lose the game if you cheat her into play" is still the harshest restriction they've put on a card.

    • @takaohasiguchi433
      @takaohasiguchi433 Год назад +33

      The trick is to have your opponent be the one to cheat her into play.
      I don't remember what jank deck does that, but it is unfortunely nowhere near viable.

    • @Troopergreen818
      @Troopergreen818 Год назад +2

      Dermotaxi would like to know your location.

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 Год назад +11

      I mean, she works with Omniscience whereas Primeval doesn't.

    • @Jesin00
      @Jesin00 Год назад +8

      That trigger can be stifled or torpor-orb'd. Primeval Spawn's replacement effect cannot.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад +2

      Jodah would like a word with you. He makes it even cheaper cmc that protean hulk, plus he is absolutely a card Jodah wants to play.

  • @MrWing946
    @MrWing946 Год назад +54

    4:16 Harshest restriction against cheating a card into play.
    Phage the Untouchable: Allow me to introduce myself

    • @matthewhalsan6459
      @matthewhalsan6459 Год назад +2

      I immediately thought the same thing. Glad others caught it aswell.

    • @Val825.
      @Val825. Год назад +2

      It's always cool when someone casts Phage from the command zone.

    • @luisgutierrez8047
      @luisgutierrez8047 Год назад +5

      ........harshest as in HARDEST to, not as in consequences.
      Phage can be cheated out with omniscience type free casts. Like.....literally references them in the video 🤡🤡👻

    • @patritchie1317
      @patritchie1317 Год назад +1

      Phage is one of my favorite commanders. I show it to people and they look at me like I have four heads, then I cast Phage and slap a swiftfoot boots on it and swing with my measly 4/4 with Deathtouch... oops, Deathtouch to players too, ha ha you're dead.

    • @jonbrewer297
      @jonbrewer297 2 дня назад

      Phage just needs Torpor Orb or Hushwing Gryff. That's really not so hard at all. The hell of it is when she's in your opponent's graveyard and you have Tariel, Reckoner of Souls.

  • @Rikka_Igana
    @Rikka_Igana Год назад +121

    Myr Superion was actually pretty easy considering all the mana reduction effects within it's standard, namely heartless summoning and semblence anvil.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Год назад +3

      Not that anyone ever actually used the latter.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад +5

      The few myr decks I played against during that standard really never used superion, even though getting infinite creature mana was shockingly easy in tribe. They tended to blow up around turn 5-7

    • @phyrexian_dude4645
      @phyrexian_dude4645 Год назад +1

      When it was on standard, i played a mono blue artifact agroo and i casted quite easily with Grand Architect or Semblance Anvil. Myr decks added reservoir to the equation too. But most of the time you saw him next to Heartless Summoning.

    • @gregconen
      @gregconen Год назад +3

      Yeah Myr Superion isn't actually THAT hard, especially compared to the other creatures on this list. It's just usually not worth it.
      It's an interesting design, though, so I can see why they included it.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад

      @@gregconen it's fun in myr affinity or as a toss in in some elfball variants, but a cheap (basically) vanilla beater is... Not good. Lol

  • @simoneandersson5978
    @simoneandersson5978 Год назад +24

    I have a commander deck with Vecna, Brisela, Elbrus, and Kaldra. I'm considering adding Marit Lage to that deck 😂

    • @johnfroh6774
      @johnfroh6774 7 месяцев назад +2

      Have you ever actually gotten to play a card with that deck? 😂

  • @bryankopkin6869
    @bryankopkin6869 Год назад +51

    Myr Superion can easily be cast off of a Burning Tree Emissary which is pretty spicy for an 8wack deck.

  • @Arkanemacht
    @Arkanemacht Год назад +13

    ManaLogs: "Here is a list of the hardest to make Creatures in Magic"
    Me: "Ah, fine additions to my list of cards i want to build decks around"

  • @henke37
    @henke37 Год назад +9

    Honorable mention goes to Gleemax for having a mana cost so huge that they drew a special symbol. It costs a million mana.

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 Год назад +29

    So, Brisela and Vecna have the same issues of needing specific cards to get them.
    We all know how THAT worked in old Yu-Gi-Oh!

    • @nadiacarrel3932
      @nadiacarrel3932 Год назад +3

      Still better than Spirit of the Pharaoh.

    • @kennydarmawan13
      @kennydarmawan13 Год назад +2

      @@nadiacarrel3932 True. True.

    • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
      @Prince_Eva_Huepow Год назад +1

      @@nadiacarrel3932 I'd rather use Armor Exe and Kozaky's Giant Kozaky than that spirit and the former 2 die before use with the giant _painfully_ self-destructing without its controller.

  • @UserNameMandatory
    @UserNameMandatory Год назад +5

    Merit Lage's Slumber isn't so difficult with all the other snow permanents you can play before it. Dedicated ❄️ deck can get it out often.

    • @darkbreaker9767
      @darkbreaker9767 2 месяца назад

      I honestly don't know how he thought it belonged on this list at all

  • @joshuawenninger6439
    @joshuawenninger6439 Год назад +21

    For #3, there are ways of cheating equipment onto the battlefield from the hand, deck or graveyard or reducing the costs of artifacts/equipment (Stoneforge Mystic probably being the most common example of a creature that can cheat out equipment)
    For Myr Superion, there are several mana dorks that can tap for more than one mana (Ilysian Caratid, Incubation Druid if you're playing a +1/+1 counter deck, and Gyre Engineer just to name a few)

    • @ASoulphoenix
      @ASoulphoenix Год назад +3

      there's even Palladium myr (i think) that can produce the 2 colorless mana needed for Superion

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Год назад +1

      @@ASoulphoenix yeah, but it costs 3. Imagine a turn 1 land, turn 2 land and a "1/1 myr dork", turn 3 no land but palladium myr, turn 4 _finally_ the Superion. A better version would be turn 1 land + Ornitopther + Springleaf drum, turn 2 land + Palladium, turn 3 superion
      When you'll get to turn 3 (or 4, for the first execution sample), you should have something better than a vanilla 5/6 beatstick.
      It wastes you every resource possible

    • @Avengedtenfold
      @Avengedtenfold Год назад

      There's also Heartless Summoning + Myr Superion for cheating out zero-cost 4/5's. Not exactly modern worthy but fun for kitchen table magic.

  • @dorping_Wolf
    @dorping_Wolf Год назад +4

    i would put Progenitus (WWUUBBRRGG) at place 10 instead of Emrakul (15), for "hard to cast"
    sure 15 is a lot, but since all cost reductions are (almost) always neutral, Emrakul is absolutely easier to cast.

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 Год назад +2

      I'm new to the deeper knowledge of MtG, but what about those cards that give you one of each mana color all at once? There was some mechanic like that in one of the Mirrodins, I think.

    • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
      @Prince_Eva_Huepow Год назад

      True, ManaLogs said that "you don't cast it".

    • @dorping_Wolf
      @dorping_Wolf Год назад +1

      @@RedSpade37 mittodin...
      i remember cards giving one mana of one color of your choice,
      or gilded lotus giving 3 mana of one color.
      and of course the "sunburst" mechanic, which was about "different colors mana spend on the card"...
      if you mean the "colored" myrs, than again it is unreliable go thet them.
      (i mean in this example its about hard-casting a big mana creature, not best scenario)

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 Год назад

      @@dorping_Wolf It's been years, so I misremembered and had some wires crossed, but thanks for the info! One day, I will summon Progenitus, haha

  • @forestfighters7081
    @forestfighters7081 5 месяцев назад +2

    I've gotten a turn 2 Emrakul.... with Channel. It was in a very spicy cube. The rest of the deck was pretty underwhelming though, but I will never forget that round.

  • @cerocero2817
    @cerocero2817 Год назад +8

    Expected to see the BFM here, even if it is silver bordered.

    • @SomeGuy712x
      @SomeGuy712x Год назад +2

      BFM is silver-bordered, which is what I'm sure you meant.

    • @cerocero2817
      @cerocero2817 Год назад +1

      @@SomeGuy712x thanks for the correction.

  • @dsol222
    @dsol222 Год назад +3

    Anyone remember "Spirit of the Night" alt summon condition on Urborg Panther (needing Urborg Panther, Breathstealer, and Feral Shadow) from Mirage?

  • @jacobhansen8015
    @jacobhansen8015 Год назад +3

    Turn 2 Marit is possible w/o fast mana. Drop an Urborg, Dark, then cast Vapire Hexmage.

    • @Metallicity
      @Metallicity Год назад +2

      Not only without fast mana, but with cards that were all printed after the cutoff for Modern. There's a reason why Dark Depths has been on the Modern banlist since the format's inception (though comboing with Stage would still probably be the bigger issue if it somehow ever came off the list).

  • @movezig5
    @movezig5 Год назад +2

    Jesus Christ dude, proofread your videos! "Cratues?" "Mry?" "Reffering?" There's this handy tool called spell check, you should look into that.

  • @Phazonfarmer
    @Phazonfarmer Год назад +10

    7:12 Probably the worst thing about Mechtitan is that the opponent doesn't even have to remove it in order to set you back. The same set that introduced Mechtitan also added Tamiyo's Compleation, a 3U Aura Enchantment with Flash, and the effect where it taps the target as TC enters the battlefield, and the target doesn't tap during its controller's untap step. Since TC has Flash, it can be cast at the beginning of an opponent's combat phase, which means you can put it on MT before it has a chance to even be declared as an attacker. As a result, MT's controller has now invested 5 mana and 5 permanents into a beatstick that they can no longer do anything with. And to add insult to injury, MT doesn't even come with a way to remove itself from the battlefield, so its controller has to either run removal cards of their own, or be willing to invest another 5 artifacts into getting another MT out.
    I should also note that there are also other cards than Tamiyo's Compleation that can achieve similar effects. Charmed Sleep and Waterknot have the same effect as TC, just for 1 less mana and not having Flash. Meanwhile, White has options like Pacifism and Heliod's Punishment that can prevent a creature from attacking or blocking. I just chose TC for the example because 1) Same set as Mechtitan, 2) Cheaper cost than MT itself, and 3) it having Flash makes it a better immediate response than most similar options.

    • @joecary3586
      @joecary3586 Год назад +2

      That problem isn't unique to Mechtitan. An opponent can cast TC on almost any of these creatures. (Except Emrakul) or they could just cast a removal spell on most of these. That's not what this video is about. It's just the hardest creatures to CAST.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад +3

      I feel like this is a bit of the ol' "dies to doomblade" arguments. All of those equally deal with almost all of the eldrazi, most dragons, almost all demons, most gods, dark and blightsteel colossi, etc. Mechtitan (voltron) is the current memey Beegboi target, though.

    • @luisgutierrez8047
      @luisgutierrez8047 Год назад +2

      I mean....Tru but neither here nor there tho. NOBODY runs TC, only seen it ONCE as a SUPER budget deck. Seen candle trap A LOT more and is also a decent way to deal with it, and still super niche
      But the way to build mechtican is to do it with a bunch of artifacts that have Etbs and Ltbs abilities. That way you get value 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% people aren't running a weird deck tech. Or with the new sets, some cheap artifact tokens.
      You usually need one good hit with mechtitan to stabilize you, if it's removed B4 it can even hit that's fine if you built your deck with e/ltb triggers

    • @MetalHev
      @MetalHev Год назад +2

      @@luisgutierrez8047 funny thing, mechtitan can exile Prototype creatures and return them as the big side. There's even an etb draw a card white mech.

    • @matthewkea3476
      @matthewkea3476 Год назад +2

      I had a lot of fun with Mech Titan in limited where I actually pulled it off a few times in two different decks. One trick was using Oni-cult anvil which produces artifact creatures … combine with some actual artifact creatures worked well. Only downside was anvil tokens don’t come back if mechtitan is killed. However in limited just getting one attack with Mechtitan was enough for a win (or scoop) every time I pulled it off.

  • @eightywight
    @eightywight Год назад +5

    4:22 The harshest restriction Wizards has ever put on a card to prevent it from getting cheated out.
    He forgets that Phage the Untouchable exists.

  • @quint3ssent1a
    @quint3ssent1a Год назад +1

    I thought Hogaak would be on the list. The fact that despite his huge cost YOU CAN'T SPEND MANA ON HIM makes him weird to cast. Maybe not the #1, but somewhere around 8-9 place.

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell365 Год назад +4

    Withengar Unbound should become a lot easier with Forge Anew from Tales of Middle-Earth. you can dump it with Goblin Engineer and then reanimate it with Forge Anew and immediately attach it to something like an Ornithopter. turn 3 Withengar Unbound is legitimately viable now

  • @Zfabaksem
    @Zfabaksem Год назад +4

    Myr superion is incredibly easy to cast in the right decks. There are a whole plethora of myr mana dorks as well as a ton of support for myr. It’s a very easy and common to be able to cast it on turn 2, and almost always guaranteed on turn 3. There are other cards that are far more worthy for the list here. Hard casting Progenitus comes to mind. In addition there are other cards like Leveler that aren’t the most difficult to cast but are some of the hardest cards to make use of.

  • @christmas6666
    @christmas6666 Год назад +1

    was hoping for B.F.M. or Phyrexian Dreadnaught on this list... :(

  • @marcoluciani4790
    @marcoluciani4790 Год назад +2

    Truth being told Vecna is relatively easy to assemble. Yeah equipments are easier to find... In general, but black has access to many tutor effects and the pieces of vecna are overall cheaper and probably less likely to be interacted with since unlike Kaldra they don't seem to offer "immediate" value.
    Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying Vecna turbo is gonna take out the Modern meta any day now, but it's not the hardest creature to summon in my opinion.

    • @zakbrooks7354
      @zakbrooks7354 Год назад

      It would definitely be an interesting commander deck. Like maybe a zombie deck that has vecna as a centerpiece. Or a black draw deck to really amplify that hand ability

  • @tonystaples1400
    @tonystaples1400 Год назад +2

    MT core is my favorite card in my mishra, eminent one deck. Being able to convert the token copy of the core into MT is so clutch.

  • @654jimbob654
    @654jimbob654 Год назад +4

    I played BW Angels in Eldritch Moon standard and Brisela was the deck's big finisher. The deck ran several copies of Thalia's Lancers to tutor up whichever angel you needed (usually Bruna since the deck had fewer copies of her compared to Gisela). It wasn't a top tier deck but it was a really fun control-midrange deck. I don't think I ever even got to attack with Brisela since opponents usually conceded right away if they couldn't answer her.

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Год назад

      I played that deck too but I found out during a sealed event a G/W deck doing the same thing except Humans is better.
      When I say doing the same thing I mean turbo Brisela.

    • @TheFiretiger
      @TheFiretiger Год назад

      Was playing Naya plainswalker control then with nahiri.
      Most games ended by with brisela being tutored by nahiri,
      Or needle spires somehow getting huge. (Activate, then target with Nissa to get bigger...and have a Sylvan advocate in play....swing for 10)

  • @karolstopinski8350
    @karolstopinski8350 Год назад +1

    Mechtitan core in izzet decks with Third Path Iconoclast is actually not that difficult :)

  • @eightywight
    @eightywight Год назад +1

    Dude, use spell check
    8:35 Cratue =/= "Creature"
    14:38 Waqll =/= Wall

  • @darmacannon
    @darmacannon Год назад +1

    Actually used black market in a token deck once to bring all 3 parts of vecna out in single turn and then bring out vecna….

  • @joym3357
    @joym3357 Год назад +1

    ngl I really dont think myr superion deserves to be on this list, I have zero trouble getting it out in my myr tribal deck

  • @Melissanoma
    @Melissanoma Год назад +3

    Jerren happens to be a human, so you can also flip him with Moonmist. I tried making a deck on arena using this combo, but there isn't enough support I think. Might work better in paper.

    • @luisgutierrez8047
      @luisgutierrez8047 Год назад

      With pain lands and tokens...is it really that hard 🤔. Gonna go see if I have enough copies of him and see if I can make it work
      Reinforcements, wedding announcement, extraction specialist, serra paragon, archangel of wrath. Pretty decent standard deck already.

  • @jodypschaeffer
    @jodypschaeffer Год назад +1

    No honorable mention for Big Furry Monster? :)

  • @TheLuminousCleric
    @TheLuminousCleric Год назад +1

    Cant you just use Aether Vial to put Myr Superion into play?

  • @zackkelley2940
    @zackkelley2940 Год назад +2

    Jerren IS hard to flip, but I've always found the front side more useful anyway.

  • @darkcardking
    @darkcardking Год назад +2

    I am just now getting the whole squirrel thing with Emrakul. I always thought she had protection from everything, not just colored spells.

  • @rezthemediaruler3768
    @rezthemediaruler3768 Год назад +14

    It becomes easy if you play Commander or solely focus your Deckbuild on the Cards. Vecna for example, is fairly hard to Deal with, if you got earlier "Threats". The Artifacts are very good on their own and if someone tries to destroy them you can just use the Books Tap-Ability. Vecna is the Secret Commander of my Acererak Deck, along with Ebondeath and our most favorite Dragon with Infect : Skittles.

    • @Metal_Maoist
      @Metal_Maoist Год назад +2

      That sounds really fun! Could you maybe give me the whole deck list? Don't know if I'll ever get around to trying it out but it seems cool

    • @kateslate3228
      @kateslate3228 Год назад +1

      Commander players STFU challenge.

    • @rezthemediaruler3768
      @rezthemediaruler3768 Год назад

      @@Metal_Maoist Yes. I could do that. But please be patient. I can't do it right know. It's waaaaay past my Bedtime. I live in Germany and it's already 4 AM. XD

    • @rezthemediaruler3768
      @rezthemediaruler3768 Год назад +2

      @@Metal_Maoist Here you go:
      Commander (1):
      Acererak, the Archlich
      Lands (33):
      1x Urborg,Tomb of Yawgmoth
      1x Rogue's Passage
      1x Temple of the False God
      1x Witch's Cottage
      1x Bojuka Bog
      1x Emergence Zone
      1x Castle Locthwain
      1x Cabal Stronghold
      25x Swamp
      Artifacts (15):
      1x The Book of Vile Darkness
      1x Hand of Vecna
      1x Eye of Vecna
      1x Soul Ring
      1x Arcane Signet
      1x Command Tower
      1x Sword of Light and Shadow
      1x Sword of Feast and Famine
      1x Phyrexian Altar
      1x Bontu's Monument
      1x Bolas's Citadel
      1x Wand of Orcus
      1x Lightning Greaves
      1x Swiftfoot Boots
      1x Vorpal Sword
      Enchantments (6):
      1x Grave Pact
      1x Black Market
      1x Warlock Class
      1x The Meathook Massacre
      1x Precipitous Drop
      1x Leyline of the Void
      Sorceries (13):
      1x Necromantic Selection
      1x Rise of the Dark Realms
      1x Damnation
      1x Profane Tutor
      1x Fate's Reversal
      1x Danse Macabre
      1x Diabolic Intent
      1x Diabolic Revelation
      1x Eldritch Pact
      1x Dark Ritual
      1x Demogorgon's Clutches
      1x Grim Bounty
      1x Feed the Swarm
      Instants (6):
      1x Feign Death
      1x Grave Endeavor
      1x Eyes of the Beholder
      1x Ray of Enfeeblement
      1x Power Word Kill
      1x Deadly Dispute
      Creatures (25):
      1x Ebondeath, Dracolich
      1x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
      1x Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
      1x Phyrexian Obliterator
      1x Lorcan, Warlock Collector
      1x Razaketh, the Foulblooded
      1x Ravenloft Adventurer
      1x Safana, Calimport Cutthroat
      1x Zombie Ogre
      1x Passageway Seer
      1x Death-Priest of Myrkul
      1x Yuan-Ti Fang-Blade
      1x Clattering Skeletons
      1x Vindictive Lich
      1x Ancient Brass Dragon
      1x Plague Crafter
      1x Bonecaller Cleric
      1x Viconia, Drow Apostate
      1x Butcher of Malakir
      1x Underdark Explorer
      1x Vicious Battlerager
      1x Custodi Lich
      1x Shadowheart, Dark Justiciar
      1x Deathtyrant
      1x Wight
      Planeswalker (1):
      Lolth, Spiderqueen
      Feel free to make any adjustments. I am also experimenting with many other Cards that are not on this list. But it works incredibly well. At least for me. If you have any Questions regarding my Choices and how the Deck is supposed to work, feel free to ask.
      Hope you will have as much fun as I have with this Deck.
      Have a nice day.^^

    • @Metal_Maoist
      @Metal_Maoist Год назад +1

      @@rezthemediaruler3768 Thank you! I live in Germany too btw so don't worry I wasn't expecting you to answer immediately

  • @ShakerGER
    @ShakerGER Год назад +2

    I am a bit surprised to not see Ormendahl, Profane Prince in the 10 or 9

    • @niallashton1068
      @niallashton1068 Год назад

      I was thinking this as well especially as the other ormendahl was featured. Sacrificing 5 creatures is a hefty cost especially if yoh use the priest you can summon with the abbey. 5 mana for a 1/1 is a terrible trade

    • @DreadPirateRobertz
      @DreadPirateRobertz 23 дня назад

      I always had a relatively easy time transforming westvale abbey. Love that card.

  • @HappytintheClown
    @HappytintheClown Год назад +1

    i think you have to at least give and honorable mention to the "Cheese Stands Alone"
    When you control no permanents other than The Cheese Stands Alone and have no cards in hand, you win the game.

  • @restionSerpentine
    @restionSerpentine Год назад +1

    I remember B.F.M. From Unglued

  • @D3m0n7x
    @D3m0n7x Год назад +1

    Phage the untouchable also hard a super harsh effect if you cheat it in to play you straight up lose the game on the spot

    • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
      @Prince_Eva_Huepow Год назад

      You may not touch Phage if you cheat. You are Phaged Out without base metal calling divinity.

  • @Yarumasi
    @Yarumasi Год назад +1

    I agree with the comments - Myr Superion is one of the easiest cards imagineable especially for an artifact to get out - and fast. Always had him with my Myr. Definitely a miss from you but thats ok because you rock

  • @jakethesnake5679
    @jakethesnake5679 Год назад +1

    I think the thing your forgetting about myr superior is that there are alot of ways to reduce the cost of colorless cards and plenty of artifacts to give your mana dorks indestructible or hexproof

  • @VCV95
    @VCV95 Год назад +5

    Primeval Spawn is a fixed Protean Hulk, which is why the slapped that insane casting restriction on it.
    And, to be fair, it only says no mana on casting. Jodah, Archmage Eternal lets you cheat him out at half cost, for example. It is also a way to cast Emrakul at 1/3 of it's cmc

  • @CERTAIND00M
    @CERTAIND00M 11 месяцев назад

    Mechtitan isn't hard to get out if you have something that produces artifact creature tokens. Sure, you won't get those tokens back if Mechtitan dies BUT if Mechtitan dies, you were probably already going to lose regardless. I've had it out on turn 4 in Arena.

  • @SilverSpectre266
    @SilverSpectre266 Год назад +1

    I expected Vecna to be on the top of the list, but honestly I had an easier time getting Vecna out than I ever did Ormendahl. And I was able to do it consistently in Standard when it was a thing. Im surprised the new Mishra didnt make the list though given it came out during sets that were removal heavy. At least Urza catered to being in control decks.

  • @snailracer4082
    @snailracer4082 Год назад +2

    Wow, this video is _better_ than what I had in my head! Compliments to whoever pitched this idea.
    TheManaLogs, would it be ridiculous for you to make this video: "Top 10 Worst Mana Rocks"?

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Год назад

      10? By including everything before Darksteel / Mirrodin, You will end up with lots of "10s" of very forgettable mana rocks. Unless you clump them into clusters, obviously

  • @joelynch4698
    @joelynch4698 Год назад +1

    I made a fun janky commander deck a while back based upon kaldra and vecna. Lots of tudors (some proxies) and a lot of mono black good stuff. It's fun, not powerful at all.

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад

      Go black/white or Esper.The best equipment support un the game is white, and there is a lot of artifact cost reduction in blue.

  • @themantyf1116
    @themantyf1116 Год назад +1

    I'm wondering if the tenth spot shouldn't have gone to Progenitus instead.
    Emrakul costs 1.5 times the total amount of mana, but it's entirely generic, and there are a lot of ways to ramp huge amount of colorless mana (the Urza lands, Sol Ring and Mana Cript being just three examples), but Progenitus requires specific mana fixing, and the most specific mana of any creature having to get exactly those ten specific pips.
    The main issue is that in 60-card decks you don't want to hard cast either, and Emrakul is a better target to cheat, while in commander (where you do work to hard-cast impressive threats, besides cheating them) Emrakul is banned so you can't compare the two. But considering that other titans like the old Kozilek still get cast more often and more easily, I think that Progenitus is more difficult to cast.

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 Год назад

      Neat! I asked another commenter this, but I seem to remember there were ways of "cheating 'Skittles' Mana out" back in the day. Some about the 5 Suns of Mirrodin and the Sunburst thing?
      I'm absolutely misremembering, but I could have sworn there were cards like "Sacrifice this artifact, gain one mana of each color" cards from that set, or something.
      Anyway, your explanation still holds, and I agree Emrakul has all kinds of cheaty ways, and even I know that, and I'm just a casual haha.

    • @themantyf1116
      @themantyf1116 Год назад +1

      @@RedSpade37 there are cards that let you add colored mana or help you toward making all five colors (in commander you have Morophon that halves Progenitus' cost, for example, and lands that can tap for two or three types of mana help a lot), it's just overall more difficult and less consistent than just getting a lot of generic mana, even with that difference in mana value.

    • @RedSpade37
      @RedSpade37 Год назад +1

      @@themantyf1116 That makes sense, thanks!

  • @chrisgebben2043
    @chrisgebben2043 Год назад +1

    yea primeval spawn doesn't have the harshest restriction
    that winner is phage the untouchable you just straight up lose if you cheat her out but theres a net that if you have a "platinum angel" in play you gete around that

    • @VCV95
      @VCV95 Год назад

      Look up Phage commander decks for a lot more things to cheat her out lol. She even kills you as a commander because she literally has to be cast from your hand. She kills you casting her from the command zone.

    • @dstreetz91
      @dstreetz91 Год назад

      @@VCV95 I always felt that was so dumb a rule because it's not like Phage would be OP as a commander even if you could just cast her once you had 7 and didn't have to use stuff like plat angel. Reminds me of the old rules that had Memnarch useless as a commander because you couldn't put islands in your deck and such before the color identity rule change. I guess Skittles can one shot people as commander though it will usually cost more than 7 mana.

    • @chrisgebben2043
      @chrisgebben2043 Год назад

      @@VCV95 I already know
      Besides well before this comment I already commented a similar thing but linking the actual cards

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 Год назад +1

    Bruna and Gisela are a super cool idea even if they underdeliver.

    • @iBloodxHunter
      @iBloodxHunter Год назад

      Nah, whenever she hits the board the opponent auto scoops.

  • @DragoonZell
    @DragoonZell Год назад

    Jerren I believe was an answer to the card "Tree of Perdition" the first half of Jerren is already good on it's own if your opponent stupidly used Tree of Perdition on you to get you to 13 life it triggers Jerren transforming him. In which the counter to that would be Triskadekaphobia to try and win the game even with Jerren on the field.

  • @erichdavis2897
    @erichdavis2897 Год назад +1

    8:35 Cratues

  • @TheAverageGuyTAG
    @TheAverageGuyTAG Год назад

    Someone please help me make a passable Mechtitan Core deck in Explorer. I've tried so hard, but it always just ends up feeling like a house of cards that loses to a stiff breeze.

  • @TheCheat420
    @TheCheat420 6 месяцев назад

    Why do you pronounce Marit Lage two different ways? You are 100% mispronouncing names of cards on purpose

  • @jonbrewer297
    @jonbrewer297 3 дня назад

    Re: Dark Depths, you forgot about Vampire Hexmage or Aether Snap, the old-school way to do it.

  • @theunwelcome
    @theunwelcome Месяц назад

    number zero: B. F. M. (Big Furry Monster) not only is it kind of a merge creature (before they really nailed down the mechanic) with the added downside that you have to have both cards in your hand or it does literally nothing, it's also an Un-set card so you'll have to find another Magic player who doesn't have a stick up their ass in order to even put it in your deck in the first place!

  • @alecazam6755
    @alecazam6755 Год назад

    No Kaldra?
    I also had a deck with myr superion and heartless summoning/unearth that reliably gets him out turn one and two.

  • @turtleinvader2982
    @turtleinvader2982 Год назад +1

    Kaldra is also very hard. Not kaldra compleat but the original 3 artifacts

    • @darmacannon
      @darmacannon Год назад +1

      Hardest part I find of playing the 3 peice sets is actually getting all 3 cards togo with the set….black garden token deck makes vecna super easy to bright out….used it in a chatterfang helm of host deck……

    • @turtleinvader2982
      @turtleinvader2982 Год назад +1

      @@darmacannon I use the three pieces of kaldra in my Oswald fiddlebender deck because I can basically tutor for them but if you can't tutor for them then vecna and kaldra are probably the hardest in the game.

    • @darmacannon
      @darmacannon Год назад +1

      @@turtleinvader2982 meanest thing I did to a kaldra set user was drop a Titania song in a shrine/star field of nyx deck…..

  • @alexchong1757
    @alexchong1757 Год назад +1

    Could we get a Top Ten Squirrel-Related Cards video please?

  • @dzspdref
    @dzspdref 7 месяцев назад

    Anyone else notice just how many misspelled words are in the video text even when the correct spelling is on the card or learned back in 3rd grade?
    Or how badly some words, even some from the game, are mispronounced (i.e. Maritah Lahg for Marit Lage)?
    This is a great channel, but these simple proofreading and listening checks show such lack of care that kills credibility.

  • @Joebob31100
    @Joebob31100 2 месяца назад

    The only time I ever made Brisela, my opponent untapped and killed me, because she only melds during your end step, so you can't even use her the turn you meld her. I had Lightning Greaves to give her haste and shroud, but it didn't matter, no opportunity to attack with her even with haste.

  • @NHH009
    @NHH009 3 месяца назад

    I play Commander and have a urtet deck that makes a incredible amount of myr artifact creature tokens... MechTitan core despite being funny wasn't sustainable, I would rather run one of the lands that require me to sacrifice five creatures to flip it.

  • @baileydombroskie3046
    @baileydombroskie3046 Год назад

    It’s so interesting how in MTG the mana costs make everything so much harder to cast and whatnot. And how ez it is in MTG to make a card damn near impossible to play/use in a real game. Excluding the mana costs, these cards seem to be the typical hard to play/use cards in yugioh. If we ignore the mana costs, in yugioh we have cards that require u to go thru many times as many hoops just to play/use. The 200IQ big brain combos needed to make some yugioh cards work successfully r complete insanity.

  • @zerospaceca3376
    @zerospaceca3376 Год назад

    "Emrakul is the most expensive creature that lacks a built-in discount mechanism"
    The disrepect to BFG
    EDIT: Ok, BFG is also 15 mana, so a tie. But BFG is harder cause it's All black mana

  • @missmeeper
    @missmeeper Год назад

    Merit lage turn 2,
    Turn 1
    Any swamp
    Turn 2
    Dark Depths
    Dark ritual
    Any tutor
    Vampire Hexmage
    Yes Merit lage is soooooooo hard lol

  • @anthonymondragon5043
    @anthonymondragon5043 Год назад

    I think mechtitan should be much lower on the list personally, as vehicle decks were made possible due to the Neon Dynasty set it dropped in, which gives a lot more potential targets.
    I do find it amusing that vecna is not only impossible for standard 60 card play, but also commander. Some of this list would be definitely have to be shifted around if commander was considered.
    Otherwise, great video!

  • @UniversalJuan
    @UniversalJuan Год назад

    Tell me you haven't run Sultai Jerren token control with Moonmist without telling me you haven't run Sultai Jerren token control with Moonmist. Nested Shambler and Blisterpod keeps this bad boy running like a machine once you get Jerren Misted

  • @ravenvictoria412
    @ravenvictoria412 Год назад

    My sister had two strategies on her deck and one of them was just Dark Dephts + Aether Snap. Drop the Dark Depths and pop all its counters with Aether Snap for just five mana. I always told her she should run more consistency cards to drop her other creatures faster because this other combo had no tutorage compared to her main strategy, but she still beat my Darksteel Colossus cheese deck 9 times out of 10, and the times she'd lose were always bricks after mulligans.

  • @carterpoland4450
    @carterpoland4450 Год назад

    I wonder why Brisela was the only meld on this list?
    Urza requires a creature and an artifact and a lot of colorless, but the strategy supports mana rocks
    Mishra requires two specific creatures attacking simultaneously, one of whom has unearth
    titania needs a creature, a nonbasic land, and a lot of lands in grave, but the cmc is relatively cheap
    Brisela takes two creatures, both of whom are very expensive in cmc
    I guess it makes sense after all...

  • @121Xander121
    @121Xander121 Год назад

    I have a couple copies of Draco in my Dralnu’s Pet vintage deck purely as fodder for Dralnu’s kicker ability. Like 6 mana in total and a quick 16/16 flyer.

  • @Physithor
    @Physithor Год назад

    How about a "hardest alternativ summoning", don't know if there are enough for such a list, but as an example the unspeakable from kamigawa (3 specific cards and hope to still have the unspeakable in your deck at the end off the combo)

  • @Jadefirewsn
    @Jadefirewsn Год назад

    There's also Spirit of the Night, which requires you to control Urborg Panther, Feral Shadow, and Breathstealer (all very mediocre creatures).

  • @tarmotaipale5704
    @tarmotaipale5704 Год назад

    Your opinion about Phyrexian Dreadnought? It's pretty hard to pull of fairly since you have to sac creatures worth 12 power, though it may be cheated out with Stifle, or as of lately, Slip out the Back

  • @Nurriek
    @Nurriek Год назад

    You can cheat the Myr Superion onto the field very easily. Burning-Tree Emissary works quite well. As does heartleas summoning.

  • @stevethe1362
    @stevethe1362 27 дней назад

    I remember a game I was playing I had a land that turns into an artifact creature, three other artifact creatures, mechtitan core and karn the great creator. so I would create mechtitan then swing for ten my friend would remove it on his turn then I use karn to get the core back and do that 4 times

  • @deadlineuniverse3189
    @deadlineuniverse3189 Год назад

    How to get the Hand of Vecna:
    Say your Prayer to Tiamat, then bring the axe down, chop your own hand off, attach the hand to your stump, cast heal to attach it and teleport out “I’m sorry it was just business”

  • @joecary3586
    @joecary3586 Год назад

    Myr Superion is incredibly easy to cast. Acererak and Kroxa are both much harder to get into play. I'm down voting this video solely because putting myr superion on this list was an incredibly stupid idea.

  • @scottlemiere2024
    @scottlemiere2024 Год назад +1

    The Big Furry Monster cost 15 Black mana and requires that you have both halves, so is harder to cast.

    • @nadiacarrel3932
      @nadiacarrel3932 Год назад

      Joke set cards generally aren't counted.

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado Год назад

      ​@@nadiacarrel3932big furry monster is NOT a joke

    • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
      @Prince_Eva_Huepow Год назад

      @@AwakenedAvocado But he is unglued.

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado Год назад +1

      @@Prince_Eva_Huepow think i have one half of BFM so halfway there

  • @TJForceIX
    @TJForceIX Год назад

    I've never had trouble getting out the Mechtitan in my Vehicle deck. There are so many cards that make thopter tokens it's trivial to have WAY more than 4 of them at any given time. You don't get the tokens back if MT dies, but who cares? I have a lot more where they came from.

  • @JanuarySnowstorm
    @JanuarySnowstorm 7 месяцев назад

    Everytime you talk about how likely it is your opponent will play a removal spell, I wonder if you mean in a tournament or meta setting or if you are always just playing against a bunch of jerks who basically play the same deck but with a trick here or there that make them just a little different.

  • @randomperson5579
    @randomperson5579 Год назад

    I think there is a way to cheat out transformed cards. i'm not a mtg judge so I could be wrong, but i know it works with the praetors in one of the new sets on arena. so i assume it works in all cases. if you're able to turn a transform creature into a copy of another transform creature (or saga, land etc.) that has an easier transform ability, transform it then if you can revert it from being a copy, it should turn into the original card, but transformed. though this could probably only work on the praetors i'm not too sure, still hard to pull off though.

  • @herbievalerius5740
    @herbievalerius5740 Год назад

    Primeval spawn is set up in a deck with Atla Palani- who can cheat it into play on purpose, so that you can cascade cheat other stuff into play.
    This was intentional, and makes primeval spawn so incredibly hard to use anywhere else, it's color identity doesn't help either.

  • @BoardingPilot
    @BoardingPilot Год назад

    Fun janky fact, you can transform #2 or accidentally transform your opponent’s if you cast a moonmist. I don’t know if there are any other cards that just straight up transform cards ignoring their triggers

  • @SwedeRacerDC
    @SwedeRacerDC Год назад

    Primeval Spawn could get very cheap in a 5 color Morophon avatars deck. It wouldn't be inconceivable to cast it for 1, but still, that's a lot of hoops

  • @gustavorolim4712
    @gustavorolim4712 6 месяцев назад

    you have to be kidding about skaab ruinator. you say mill as if it was the only and best way to get creatures in your grave. cards that make you draw and discard, cards with convoke, cards with cycle, the list goes on

  • @johnfroh6774
    @johnfroh6774 7 месяцев назад

    Im planning run Bruna as my commander in an angels deck. Focus on using her to bring out Angels drom my graveyard until Gisela hits the pile, then obliterating

  • @luisgutierrez8047
    @luisgutierrez8047 Год назад

    Ormendhal/jerren: painlands -am i a joke to you?
    You can just token spam first few turns to protect vs opponent. Then set up your life total to he ready as you get closee to turn 6.

  • @denisskenderovic3707
    @denisskenderovic3707 Год назад

    The wording of this video so strange, as is the list. You named a few hard-to-cast creatures, and then you named tokens, and then some meld cards. The first weak video out of this MTG series.

  • @6letterss
    @6letterss Год назад

    such a weak top 10 "wow this card is so hard to cast ; except that every one reanimates it for free for one mana" "wow this land is so hard to trigger its ability, unless you copy it for free and get a free 20/20 on turn 2"

  • @zackkelley2940
    @zackkelley2940 Год назад

    Strictly speaking, you don't need to CAST Emrakul to get it into play, you just lose the extra turn if you don't cast it.
    The rest of the card is potent enough that getting it out for cheap is often worth losing the extra turn.

  • @ethanrice1102
    @ethanrice1102 7 месяцев назад

    I feel like the reason primeval spawns casting restriction is the way it is, is to prevent its own ability from cheating another copy of it into play. Giving you less risk to dying to removal or using it to block a stronger creature

  • @michaelgood3666
    @michaelgood3666 Год назад

    Unless you aren't including the un sets, the Big Furry Monster is harder than Emrakul, since it needs 15 black mana and 2 specific cards in hand, its not a meld card and one half of it cant be searched at all, also with the cards with the sun or moon, if there is a card that sends the game into the day and night cycle, it will enter on the side the game is on

  • @Njzeo
    @Njzeo Год назад

    Really need to update this video with “hardest creatures to make outside of commander”
    I see all of these OFTEN

  • @MichaelSmith-fm5ln
    @MichaelSmith-fm5ln 4 месяца назад

    Myr Superion was an easy card to use in my Grand Architect deck. That said I can see why other decks would have issues.

  • @ReyosBlackwood
    @ReyosBlackwood Год назад

    Hardest creatures to create list, and yet #7 is the win condition for format relevant decks. Anything that central to a legitimate deck in high power formats does not belong on this list.

  • @gigawarman12
    @gigawarman12 Год назад

    This is not one of your better videos friend. I don't agree with how some of these are ranked against one another and there some that could easily be kicked out in favor of Kaldra.

  • @Prince_Eva_Huepow
    @Prince_Eva_Huepow Год назад

    What about most Yugioh-like cards? That hand sounds like the user is an executive producer.

  • @sadistksuffring1537
    @sadistksuffring1537 Год назад

    I've gotten to cheat cast primeval spawn several times thanks to hideaway in my 5 color omnath deck.

  • @ImAKAJenks
    @ImAKAJenks Год назад

    Myr superion + semblance anvil makes it 0 cost and you can just play it. Was always my go to in scars block standard

  • @darmacannon
    @darmacannon Год назад

    Easy solution to emrakul the aeons torn….thran temporal gateway, since it’s a historic it can just be cheated out super easy