Behaviour just becomes habit for horses after a while... they do the "wrong" thing for no reason other than they've always done it. They may have started doing the behaviour initially either in response to pain, or fear, but when you get these horses and start re-educating them, it's not enough to remove the pain and fear... you also have to make that habitual behaviour uncomfortable so they have an incentive to change. That's why a blank canvas horse who knows nothing is generally easier to teach than a badly started horse. It is slow progress to change habits, as you say. Good job with Tucker, he's getting much better
He is a good looking horse, nice confirmation. Looks like he really wants to be a good boy! Too bad they didn't take him to you to start him, but at least he's in a good place now. Fun to see his progress. My TW would fidget when saddling and after 6 different saddles, and LOTS of calmly moving him back to where I wanted him to stand, he is a different horse! Finally found a saddle that fits! He has a old scar on the off side whither so I always knew what the issue was. Saddle fit is so important, especially for a shark fin, big shoulder, slab side horse!
If Tucker was my horse I would expect this process a long term issue. I think I would saddle him and unsaddle him all day long for days....and gradually extend the ssddle time. Then branch out to leading etc. You gave gotten him thinking better and understanding the process but he still needs the time figure everything out.When any horse is started wrong it takes a ton of work and dedication to get them unstuck! I used to work with 4H kids and their horses and non of them had well started horses. Rewarding to see both horses and riders work thru all the issues! It took months with each horse depending on the problems. Hope the owner can take the time to give Tucker the time to come to terms with being saddled and to realize it is not punishnent!
Nice to see Tucker doing so well... Not surprised, considering who's helping him. And yes, it's a shame what happens to horses that don't get a good start. No such thing as a "bad" horse. ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎
"So Mr Tim", says Tucker, "These yacht bumpers, am I going to be a yacht horse? Isn't that kinda fancy for a humble steed like me? This character I know, she needs these yacht bumpers on her car."
It's nothing to do with control. The sweet iron helps them salivate more which helps to loosen the jaw and release tension. I found that most ground work comes easier and quicker if they're wearing a bit.
I don’t quite understand cold backed. Is it because he is in pain ? Is it because his muscles are tense and he needs to be warmed up ? What causes this behavior ?
Cold-backed is an old cowboy term for a horse that humps his or bucks when the girth is tightened. It doesn’t mean that his back muscles are cold or tight from injury. The muscles tense up as a reaction to fear or discomfort.
Hi Tim. Does lunging around the mounting block help with getting them confident when going to ride the horse? Or is it just a coincidence? My horse will not stand still at the block
@@timandersonhorsetraining yes. I understood that in your video. It’s the mounting block proximity I was wondering about. Is it there to get used to it or just for convenience. My horse does better walking and not a lot of lunging like tucker. If I just lunge him he gets hot or shuts down like you explained. I was just wondering if having the block near by would help?
An excellent trainer: patient, patient, patient. For the love of the horse.
I love that you listen to the horse and help them be successful. Training the mind ❤
He's pretty stoic... Takes a long time to release his tension. Love the time you're spending with him. Way too many never notice that. 👏👏👏
What a good boy! He’s beginning to trust & not to be afraid of the tack.
Behaviour just becomes habit for horses after a while... they do the "wrong" thing for no reason other than they've always done it. They may have started doing the behaviour initially either in response to pain, or fear, but when you get these horses and start re-educating them, it's not enough to remove the pain and fear... you also have to make that habitual behaviour uncomfortable so they have an incentive to change. That's why a blank canvas horse who knows nothing is generally easier to teach than a badly started horse. It is slow progress to change habits, as you say. Good job with Tucker, he's getting much better
Thank goodness Ole Tucker has you! The patience of a saint!
He is a good looking horse, nice confirmation. Looks like he really wants to be a good boy! Too bad they didn't take him to you to start him, but at least he's in a good place now. Fun to see his progress. My TW would fidget when saddling and after 6 different saddles, and LOTS of calmly moving him back to where I wanted him to stand, he is a different horse! Finally found a saddle that fits! He has a old scar on the off side whither so I always knew what the issue was. Saddle fit is so important, especially for a shark fin, big shoulder, slab side horse!
If Tucker was my horse I would expect this process a long term issue. I think I would saddle him and unsaddle him all day long for days....and gradually extend the ssddle time. Then branch out to leading etc. You gave gotten him thinking better and understanding the process but he still needs the time figure everything out.When any horse is started wrong it takes a ton of work and dedication to get them unstuck! I used to work with 4H kids and their horses and non of them had well started horses. Rewarding to see both horses and riders work thru all the issues! It took months with each horse depending on the problems. Hope the owner can take the time to give Tucker the time to come to terms with being saddled and to realize it is not punishnent!
Thanks Tim, you’re a good teacher.
Please, show a close up of how you tie the reins to the halter.
Thank you.
Nice to see Tucker doing so well...
Not surprised, considering who's helping him.
And yes, it's a shame what happens to horses that don't get a good start.
No such thing as a "bad" horse.
❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎
Very nice session.
"So Mr Tim", says Tucker, "These yacht bumpers, am I going to be a yacht horse? Isn't that kinda fancy for a humble steed like me? This character I know, she needs these yacht bumpers on her car."
Go Tucker!
He is just lovely. I see his videos are from a while ago. How is he doing now when ridden?
How many times did you have to get on and off of him before he exhaled or blew out?
I don't remember but it was a lot.
I just noticed his back right hind hock kind of twists out. Does he have hock issues?
No. One side of his foot hits the ground before the other causing that motion. Just his confirmation.
Hi Tim! What does having the bit in prior to saddening help you do. I am assuming it is a control measure. Thx!
It's nothing to do with control. The sweet iron helps them salivate more which helps to loosen the jaw and release tension. I found that most ground work comes easier and quicker if they're wearing a bit.
I don’t quite understand cold backed. Is it because he is in pain ? Is it because his muscles are tense and he needs to be warmed up ? What causes this behavior ?
It's because he was improperly started.
I think in this case it means the horse is just stiff, not necessarily in pain Correct me if I'm wrong.
Cold-backed is an old cowboy term for a horse that humps his or bucks when the girth is tightened. It doesn’t mean that his back muscles are cold or tight from injury. The muscles tense up as a reaction to fear or discomfort.
Hi Tim. Does lunging around the mounting block help with getting them confident when going to ride the horse? Or is it just a coincidence? My horse will not stand still at the block
Lunging is sometimes the right thing to do but not always.
@@timandersonhorsetraining yes. I understood that in your video. It’s the mounting block proximity I was wondering about. Is it there to get used to it or just for convenience. My horse does better walking and not a lot of lunging like tucker. If I just lunge him he gets hot or shuts down like you explained. I was just wondering if having the block near by would help?
I haven't found where the location of the mounting block makes any difference.