@@ashishkkrishna no unfortunately clara will not get any counter in as yunli has taunt (probably if the enemy has aoe it might work but its better to do hypercarry)
@@matrixfull Yunli LC make your Clara need no Lynx . You can replace Lynx with other sustains or support character . The damage Is of course a bit higher than Clara LC . So yeah it is better . The only advantage I see here is Clara LC have small useful healing ( to avoid Clara getting dmg from DOT ) & the 24% DMG up make Yunli ultimate deal more damage . This is one of Signature LC that fit character that is not intended user . Work with Blade too . Totally valuable sig like how Dr Ratio & Yanqin can use Topaz LC or Harmony Trailblazer can use Ruan Mei LC .
I do find her pull value a bit weird since she's basically Clara but better, If you have a really well built Clara and can still clear, Yunli's pull value goes down. Also her sig lc will make Clara's sig become something replaceable as it is overall better. And with Clara having Tingyun, she can ult very often. I say same goes for Argenti if you have him well built in a good team then Yunli's pull value goes down. Argenti, Sparkle, Tingyun, and HuoHuo is still a strong team for him to clear all contents. And he's still a beast in Pure Fiction.
I mean if we're being technical about it, having literally any other dps built brings down any other dps pull value. Dps have the least pull value already, supports and pseudo support sustain are already the most valuable pulls and your dps matters very little if they can simply do some aoe and high single target damage. Clara is already a great unit, with good supports she clears basically all content just fine with no issue, often times better than limited dps. While it's easy to focus in because of their similar playstyle/ function and say yunli is less valuable if you have a good Clara, the same goes for every dps in the game. If you have a good dps, every other dps value goes down for you, so I think this point is just a bit over stated in the grand scheme of things. That's not to say it's an invalid point, just that it needs to be put into perspective that this is not a unique problem for yunli, and applies to every dps in some way or another.
My Argenti clears the three modes when there's phys. weakness. Why would I bother pulling either Boothill or Yunli ? And I dont have Huohuo. I feel in a lot of cases, people obsess over BiS comps rather than what is situationally useful and so end up underperforming in various modes.
Because most peoples argentis cant 'clear all 3 modes' thats why. Only PF. And jades are limited. So tell my why would I want something SITUATIONALLY useful when I can have unit like firefly or acheron that are just useful? You got to be rich or not care about clearing everything to pull for weaker units. Its that simple I only gotten him 3 days ago but Ive built him to the max with 50 cr and 150 cd with physical set + salsoto or sigonia depending on the mode which with all teammates buffs turns into 75 cd and 280 cd and he is NOT showing better results even in Pure fiction. I have both himeko lc and battle pass one s5 for him. I previously used acheron+kakfa b.swan in this part of PF and the amount of points Ive gotten was exactly the same, 28000-32000. Argenti was not an improvement. He wasnt even a sidegrade. I like his character but I regret getting him at least right now. When I too him to MoC and A.shadow he literally succed there. he cant clear it for me. Nowhere near to competing it despite having tingyun houhou and bronya on his team, all properly build
@@vermilion6966I dunno about that, my Argenti is mid as Hella and got him accidentally this banner. He 4 cycles this moc, which is fine for a unit that destroys PF. Unlike my Jing yuan who can't do shit lmao
@@vermilion6966 That tells me you've got skill isssues cos my Argenti isn't heavily invested in. Also the situational is who to pair him with, not Argenti himself. You sound to be the type of player I was referring to in my initial comment: just using whatever BiS and not thinking what's actually useful for the current fight. Here is the hard truth, BiS is not always the best choice. But that requires playing the game rather than trying to go for automode. Mentally and literally. Guess which way ultimately saves the most resources ? That's right, actually learning how to play. Alsp, I've got him on his original release, so characters like Acheron, Boothill or Firefly weren't even a thing. Though, using your argument, dont pull for Yunli either ?
@@willrmmerhunter that tells me youre lying. Just like every other nobody on yt claiming his underdog character 'clearz contenz ez skillz issuez lamaoz' Just one of them. And then you look at their runs and they can - maybe - clear content with thsi underdog once in a blue moon after 10 tries or have signatures on all chars or eidolons on 5 stars. BiS means best in slot. Argenti isnt even best in slot for PF. In other modes, hes outright trash outclassed by every other 5 star Youre the only one here who refuses to even use your brain, if i said that acheron team cleared it in the same time despite mobs not having lightning weakness, then clearly youre the only one who relies for BiS in PF since rn it favor argenti as he spams his ult and favor physical characters. If you have other teams they should be doing WORSE than him yet theyre the same or better with the same investment. And gotta love cl.wns yapping about skillz issueez when I literally clear all content with 3 stars routinely without eidolons, signatures or insane builds. Freaking joke
@@vermilion6966 I am not, you have to cope so bad to come up witj me lying about a character that's...not even my fav (sad you have to invent stories because of how strong your dissonance is). You not realizing how BiS arent always the best tells me all I need about your "skills". Thanks for confirming my point for the third time. And sure you can clear by throwing jades in, never said otherwise. Your loss, not mine. And you thinking Im the "only one" tells me all I need about your honesty (projecting much about lying?) seeing how you got more than one person on this literal comment section stating they can.
I’m going to go for Yunli, since I’m at 77 pity with a 50/50, and depending on Feixiao’s kit, I might go for either one of them if I lose the 50/50 :))
@@Cunnybapist No hes not. I got him on 50 cr and 150 cd without buffs with houhou-tingyun and bronya and s5 battle pass lightcone and he succs in MoC and A.shadow. hes only somewhat good for PF
Is there anything Clara does that Yunli doesn’t? This is even more direct power creep than Sparkle did to Bronya. At least sometimes you want the 100% from Bronya
Yunli without her signature LC means you have to rely on external aggro increase like March 7th or Lynx. Without her LC, the chance of her being targetted is greatly diminished. Clara has a more complete kit, albeit with lesser damage, due to her taunt being from her own Ult (which can easily be maintained with a Tingyun support). Without aggro increase, Yunli will probably feel bad to use
@@naufaladitya9453 Single action taunt, which while good since it's guaranteed Yunli will get hit, is not a 2 turn taunt that Clara has. That means less overall chance of Yunli getting hit, meaning less Energy produced to Ult, meaning less damage
I hope to see something like a "make use of the enemies turn" meta : the Cirrus mechanisms could be a good example of it that would favor Counter (Yunli) but also DoT (Jiaoqiu) ... and thus hopefully a 2nd rerun for Kafka soon enough ... 😮💨
Argenti does have his Value with Pure fiction, being one of the best PF units other then Himeko/Herta/Jade, Considering Clara is a really soild unit in Pure fiction, Yunli should be Clara but even better, especially considering she gains a lot of energy from any enemies Hitting yunli. She does have his same Ultimate function of Holding 2 Ultimate energy gauges like Argentisan, but Instead of 1 small and 1 big ultimate, it's 2 big Ultimate attacks. I'll say she has solid Peformance in Pure Fiction while far outpacing Argentisan in MOC/APOC.
In short waifu always better because their are more universal . Clara doesn't get powercrept that much infact they work well together . I will pull Yunli Lightcone for Clara because my pity is very close & I'm lazy to raise new character
I can't bring myself to pull on Mr redhead. He creeps me out 🙈 My current physical coverage is Susheng, so Imma need to pull so eone at some point, I guess. Not him though, literally anyone else 😆
Lots of option for yunli's lc? Clara doesn't mind whatever lc bc she has additional aggro value in her ult. Yunli doesn't. What she's gonna do in between her ult if you're just relying on her base aggro value, and you're going single sustain with the current 5* sustain? Yunli's gonna be very unreliable when the enemy isn't spamming AOE attacks.
@@IDFC99 Not really it depends, Argenti is a main DPS while Jade is usually a Sub DPS which means she is usually ran with another DPS like herta, It really depends on your account, Most 4 star harmonies cannot buff 2 units so it may just be easier to get Argenti if your account is more fit for 1 DPS.
@@QuanNguyen-vb8wr U need to know how to play him, There’s a lot of little tips u can do to make ur argenti better and make sure he has the right units. And you probaly need more crit rate
What other possibel archetypes/playstyle do you think they might create? My best guess is a buff scaling unit or someone who deals more dmg the less health they have or def scaling hyper carry
@@nopputhihk848 I know, but this video and reading the comments help too, seeing the pros and cons. I need a physical aoe damage dealer who is the most universal. I also need to think if I have their supports as well. I don't have sparkle (or Robin) and probably won't get her (Sparkle) since I also want HuoHuo as well. If I had to choose I would like Argenti, but might be leaning towards Yunli since its sounds like she's more universal. But I'm still not sure yet.
@@gabyo97im fairly certain yunli is more universal the only way in which she isnt the best would be single target dmg which argenti struggles more with. but even then since she’s FUA you can actually switch from her hyper carry setup (TY, HH, Robin,) to a dual dps setup where you swap Tingyun for Topaz. its an expensive fix but at least there’s something, with argenti you cant rlly do anything about his sngle target dmg bc he rlly wants a hypercarry setup
Well in my case, i'm still uncertain who's to pull between Yunli and Fei Xiao. Yunli offers new level of counter gameplay + i need physical dps. Fei Xiao offers that she's gonna be compete with Acheron in terms of damage, even though i dont really need wind dps right now. So that makes me really confused.
That was lore wise there’s no information of her being on par gameplay wise ( yet ) So let’s wait b4 saying anything we’ll know roughly how strong she is in just over a week. But all that being said she’s still Hunt so there’s a Hard limit on her potential because they are usually ST focused…
I think it's better to compare her with Boothill since both are break effect dps that follows the same path. It'll be very interesting if she doesn't have ways to implant wind weakness or has universal toughness break. Acheron is a different beast of a unit. With Jiaoqiu, he will help her perform well in PF meaning she can be used in all three endgame modes.
Huh I guess I never thought about it but you’re right. We are entering our Xianzhou arc again lol They have lots to work with since there are 6 ships and we have got 1 so far. Guess they’ll use the Xianzhou as a bridge story while the Astral Express awaits patch 3.0 for that dream memory world.
Clara is already underrated in Pure Fiction, paired with Robin + Aventurine + Flex (Topaz for instance), she easily get 30k for PF. With Jade (which is my personal Flex), I hit 40k PF at like the 2nd run. Probably Yunli is gonna be even easier to hit this, while being better than Clara at MOC. Yet, as a Clara enjoyer, a mere copy paste is a HUGE SKIP
As someone who loves Clara, I hate how Yunli feels like Hoyo decided one of their standard characters was a little TOO useful... The most charitable take is that they wanted the counter follow-up playstyle to keep up numbers-wise with the obscene DPS characters we've gotten recently, which also feels bad. If I had the pulls I'd get the LC upgrade for Clara, but I'd rather just save and see what Feixiao has going on. Or skip the next 2 patches and hold out for Sunday 🙏
Even if you don't openly talk about leaks here, I think you should be aware that no, we aren't going to shift into counterattack meta any time soon. None of the upcoming characters are going for counterattack mechanic. That way you won't mislead the viewers. Clara was there, then kinda left alone to her devices until Robin. Yunli could very much end like that going forward.
yunli is great value but argenti is still the easiest and top pf unit,and so long as that’s one of the end games that most people have issue playing then he’ll always have value too
here’s the thing, when tingyuns five star comes out argenti will become a literal beast. and within that time if u invest in him and then pull for tingyun, you’ll clear pure fiction and moc so insanely auickc
@@The_CodFish69 eh idk about that. Besides, from what I saw in the V5 beta testing from other users, Yunli was hitting anywhere from 200k-313k per enhanced counter. Imagine if she got 4-5 enhanced counters in a row. Of course, that could change before 2.4 goes live, but I doubt it.
@@ChiriKain I’ve seen the leaks I know she’s good however let’s not pretend every mode she was tested in has a buff for FUA/counter damage and on top of that there was more opponents that had higher speed on average then normal EG and even then Both Archeron and FF was still competing if not still getting better times. So like I said she’s good but let’s not ignore most of her stats were inflated in the beta so like I said she’s above average and a good character but not Tier 0 lvl and in most situations not Tier 0.5 aswell.
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It’s gonna be funny when you put her with Clara just non stop follow ups with Robin as well I feel like funny numbers will happen
i've been thinking of this, since both yunli and clara will be competing for aggro will they work together in the same team?
@@ashishkkrishna no unfortunately clara will not get any counter in as yunli has taunt (probably if the enemy has aoe it might work but its better to do hypercarry)
@@ak--dj4qmoh damn. I'll just wait to see where she's placed on prydwyn's tier list before making a decision then
@@ak--dj4qmClara in ult state will get counters though because she counters even if someone else gets hit
@@unendingvoidye but you need clara to get hit to recharge the ult faster since you’d wanna use robin instead of tingyun
Clara gang! I have her at e3 so i might as well just use her and save jades
Same here, but I really like her playstyle, so I might pull for yunli.
I think she could be fun in a hypercarry team
go for yunli's light cone. it looks really good for clara
@@matrixfull Yunli LC make your Clara need no Lynx . You can replace Lynx with other sustains or support character . The damage Is of course a bit higher than Clara LC . So yeah it is better .
The only advantage I see here is Clara LC have small useful healing ( to avoid Clara getting dmg from DOT ) & the 24% DMG up make Yunli ultimate deal more damage .
This is one of Signature LC that fit character that is not intended user . Work with Blade too . Totally valuable sig like how Dr Ratio & Yanqin can use Topaz LC or Harmony Trailblazer can use Ruan Mei LC .
@@matrixfull good luck . I will do a same things
I do find her pull value a bit weird since she's basically Clara but better, If you have a really well built Clara and can still clear, Yunli's pull value goes down. Also her sig lc will make Clara's sig become something replaceable as it is overall better. And with Clara having Tingyun, she can ult very often.
I say same goes for Argenti if you have him well built in a good team then Yunli's pull value goes down. Argenti, Sparkle, Tingyun, and HuoHuo is still a strong team for him to clear all contents. And he's still a beast in Pure Fiction.
I mean if we're being technical about it, having literally any other dps built brings down any other dps pull value.
Dps have the least pull value already, supports and pseudo support sustain are already the most valuable pulls and your dps matters very little if they can simply do some aoe and high single target damage.
Clara is already a great unit, with good supports she clears basically all content just fine with no issue, often times better than limited dps.
While it's easy to focus in because of their similar playstyle/ function and say yunli is less valuable if you have a good Clara, the same goes for every dps in the game. If you have a good dps, every other dps value goes down for you, so I think this point is just a bit over stated in the grand scheme of things.
That's not to say it's an invalid point, just that it needs to be put into perspective that this is not a unique problem for yunli, and applies to every dps in some way or another.
My Argenti clears the three modes when there's phys. weakness. Why would I bother pulling either Boothill or Yunli ? And I dont have Huohuo.
I feel in a lot of cases, people obsess over BiS comps rather than what is situationally useful and so end up underperforming in various modes.
Because most peoples argentis cant 'clear all 3 modes' thats why. Only PF. And jades are limited. So tell my why would I want something SITUATIONALLY useful when I can have unit like firefly or acheron that are just useful? You got to be rich or not care about clearing everything to pull for weaker units. Its that simple
I only gotten him 3 days ago but Ive built him to the max with 50 cr and 150 cd with physical set + salsoto or sigonia depending on the mode which with all teammates buffs turns into 75 cd and 280 cd and he is NOT showing better results even in Pure fiction. I have both himeko lc and battle pass one s5 for him. I previously used acheron+kakfa b.swan in this part of PF and the amount of points Ive gotten was exactly the same, 28000-32000. Argenti was not an improvement. He wasnt even a sidegrade.
I like his character but I regret getting him at least right now.
When I too him to MoC and A.shadow he literally succed there. he cant clear it for me. Nowhere near to competing it despite having tingyun houhou and bronya on his team, all properly build
@@vermilion6966I dunno about that, my Argenti is mid as Hella and got him accidentally this banner. He 4 cycles this moc, which is fine for a unit that destroys PF. Unlike my Jing yuan who can't do shit lmao
@@vermilion6966 That tells me you've got skill isssues cos my Argenti isn't heavily invested in. Also the situational is who to pair him with, not Argenti himself. You sound to be the type of player I was referring to in my initial comment: just using whatever BiS and not thinking what's actually useful for the current fight. Here is the hard truth, BiS is not always the best choice. But that requires playing the game rather than trying to go for automode. Mentally and literally. Guess which way ultimately saves the most resources ? That's right, actually learning how to play.
Alsp, I've got him on his original release, so characters like Acheron, Boothill or Firefly weren't even a thing. Though, using your argument, dont pull for Yunli either ?
@@willrmmerhunter that tells me youre lying.
Just like every other nobody on yt claiming his underdog character 'clearz contenz ez skillz issuez lamaoz'
Just one of them.
And then you look at their runs and they can - maybe - clear content with thsi underdog once in a blue moon after 10 tries or have signatures on all chars or eidolons on 5 stars.
BiS means best in slot. Argenti isnt even best in slot for PF. In other modes, hes outright trash outclassed by every other 5 star
Youre the only one here who refuses to even use your brain, if i said that acheron team cleared it in the same time despite mobs not having lightning weakness, then clearly youre the only one who relies for BiS in PF since rn it favor argenti as he spams his ult and favor physical characters.
If you have other teams they should be doing WORSE than him yet theyre the same or better with the same investment.
And gotta love cl.wns yapping about skillz issueez when I literally clear all content with 3 stars routinely without eidolons, signatures or insane builds.
Freaking joke
@@vermilion6966 I am not, you have to cope so bad to come up witj me lying about a character that's...not even my fav (sad you have to invent stories because of how strong your dissonance is).
You not realizing how BiS arent always the best tells me all I need about your "skills". Thanks for confirming my point for the third time.
And sure you can clear by throwing jades in, never said otherwise. Your loss, not mine.
And you thinking Im the "only one" tells me all I need about your honesty (projecting much about lying?) seeing how you got more than one person on this literal comment section stating they can.
Yunli's potential could be really high if her self sustain is enough for her to run a 3 buffer team
As long as you don't have Tankyun in your team, it shoud be fine .
if you're using sparkle then it should be enough, especially when counting robin's and ting's atk gives her 500ish more healing so
I’m going to go for Yunli, since I’m at 77 pity with a 50/50, and depending on Feixiao’s kit, I might go for either one of them if I lose the 50/50 :))
Feels bad for Argenti, they done him so dirty for the second time
Right next to RM again
I dont care my man he is coming to my account no matter what it take
Yunli is more valuable in my opinion and it is not very close. She can be used in all 3 end game modes and has a bunch of team options.
So do argenti he is pretty good choice in MOC and decent option in AS
@@tuananhdang7385robin better
@@CunnybapistNo, he is not.
@@Cunnybapist No hes not.
I got him on 50 cr and 150 cd without buffs with houhou-tingyun and bronya and s5 battle pass lightcone and he succs in MoC and A.shadow.
hes only somewhat good for PF
Isn’t she kinda mid in pf cuz of the single target counter? She’ll probably still be good in apoc shadow and moc tho
Basically yunli is better
Not exaclty, Argenti is a PF obliterater
They’re both very different characters
Sunlight is dead on arive, so Argenti is better value imo
Thanks for the time saver
@@boredperson1011 ( except in pf but she is good in that too)
Is there anything Clara does that Yunli doesn’t? This is even more direct power creep than Sparkle did to Bronya. At least sometimes you want the 100% from Bronya
Yunli without her signature LC means you have to rely on external aggro increase like March 7th or Lynx. Without her LC, the chance of her being targetted is greatly diminished. Clara has a more complete kit, albeit with lesser damage, due to her taunt being from her own Ult (which can easily be maintained with a Tingyun support). Without aggro increase, Yunli will probably feel bad to use
I think Yunli does everything when you compare to Clara even she give you decent amount of heal without needing her lightcone
she’s more auto-friendly since you want to time Yunli’s ults
@@einein3650 dude, yunli also has a taunt on her ult..
@@naufaladitya9453 Single action taunt, which while good since it's guaranteed Yunli will get hit, is not a 2 turn taunt that Clara has. That means less overall chance of Yunli getting hit, meaning less Energy produced to Ult, meaning less damage
Argenti with sparkle and tingyun can still 3 stars my Moc. So….
I hope to see something like a "make use of the enemies turn" meta : the Cirrus mechanisms could be a good example of it
that would favor Counter (Yunli) but also DoT (Jiaoqiu)
... and thus hopefully a 2nd rerun for Kafka soon enough ... 😮💨
Everyone in the comments assuming everyone has Clara/Robin...
Argenti does have his Value with Pure fiction, being one of the best PF units other then Himeko/Herta/Jade, Considering Clara is a really soild unit in Pure fiction, Yunli should be Clara but even better, especially considering she gains a lot of energy from any enemies Hitting yunli. She does have his same Ultimate function of Holding 2 Ultimate energy gauges like Argentisan, but Instead of 1 small and 1 big ultimate, it's 2 big Ultimate attacks. I'll say she has solid Peformance in Pure Fiction while far outpacing Argentisan in MOC/APOC.
In short waifu always better because their are more universal . Clara doesn't get powercrept that much infact they work well together .
I will pull Yunli Lightcone for Clara because my pity is very close & I'm lazy to raise new character
@@Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive She's not a waifu, she's a child
@@lstinside8688 sorry I mean female 🤦
I can't bring myself to pull on Mr redhead. He creeps me out 🙈 My current physical coverage is Susheng, so Imma need to pull so eone at some point, I guess. Not him though, literally anyone else 😆
So glad my pitty didn't go off an argenti, now I can get Yunli guaranteed. I've got jade to team with as well for PF.
i don't care, argenti all the way
i’m just chilling with my argenti i love him
Same, idk why people hate him. Hes so bbg ❤️🔥❤️🔥
@@imnotbron1889 he’s just a pretty fella! plus sparkle and huohuo are both good for him so yk… easy choices for pulls next patch!
Lots of option for yunli's lc? Clara doesn't mind whatever lc bc she has additional aggro value in her ult. Yunli doesn't. What she's gonna do in between her ult if you're just relying on her base aggro value, and you're going single sustain with the current 5* sustain? Yunli's gonna be very unreliable when the enemy isn't spamming AOE attacks.
I have clara and no argenti, but I clear PF with clara just fine. PF is the only thing needed to be mentioned since that's where Argenti only shines.
If you need someone for pure fiction, Argenti, If you need a all rounded dps who isnt the best but is just a little bit bulky, Yunli
Ok even jade better than midenti
@@IDFC99 Not really it depends, Argenti is a main DPS while Jade is usually a Sub DPS which means she is usually ran with another DPS like herta, It really depends on your account, Most 4 star harmonies cannot buff 2 units so it may just be easier to get Argenti if your account is more fit for 1 DPS.
every time it try argenti in pure fiction I found it hard to make it work 55 cr 170 cd on broken set maybe that the issue but I not sure
@@QuanNguyen-vb8wr U need to know how to play him, There’s a lot of little tips u can do to make ur argenti better and make sure he has the right units. And you probaly need more crit rate
What other possibel archetypes/playstyle do you think they might create?
My best guess is a buff scaling unit or someone who deals more dmg the less health they have or def scaling hyper carry
Oh thank you for making this video, I've been going back and forward on who to pull for.
You can't base on this video, it's comparing apple to an orange. If you need to build a team for PF, pull for jade or argenti.
@@nopputhihk848 I know, but this video and reading the comments help too, seeing the pros and cons. I need a physical aoe damage dealer who is the most universal. I also need to think if I have their supports as well. I don't have sparkle (or Robin) and probably won't get her (Sparkle) since I also want HuoHuo as well.
If I had to choose I would like Argenti, but might be leaning towards Yunli since its sounds like she's more universal. But I'm still not sure yet.
@@gabyo97im fairly certain yunli is more universal the only way in which she isnt the best would be single target dmg which argenti struggles more with. but even then since she’s FUA you can actually switch from her hyper carry setup (TY, HH, Robin,) to a dual dps setup where you swap Tingyun for Topaz. its an expensive fix but at least there’s something, with argenti you cant rlly do anything about his sngle target dmg bc he rlly wants a hypercarry setup
does yunli work well as a sub-dps taunt sustain
Well in my case, i'm still uncertain who's to pull between Yunli and Fei Xiao. Yunli offers new level of counter gameplay + i need physical dps. Fei Xiao offers that she's gonna be compete with Acheron in terms of damage, even though i dont really need wind dps right now. So that makes me really confused.
Intresting I dident think of it this way. What makes you think she will compete with acheron damage numbers?
That was lore wise there’s no information of her being on par gameplay wise ( yet )
So let’s wait b4 saying anything we’ll know roughly how strong she is in just over a week.
But all that being said she’s still Hunt so there’s a Hard limit on her potential because they are usually ST focused…
@@mauvevisive7250 I heard it from "that" community discussion on reddit. So i don't really know for sure.
@@The_CodFish69 agreed
I think it's better to compare her with Boothill since both are break effect dps that follows the same path. It'll be very interesting if she doesn't have ways to implant wind weakness or has universal toughness break.
Acheron is a different beast of a unit. With Jiaoqiu, he will help her perform well in PF meaning she can be used in all three endgame modes.
Huh I guess I never thought about it but you’re right. We are entering our Xianzhou arc again lol
They have lots to work with since there are 6 ships and we have got 1 so far. Guess they’ll use the Xianzhou as a bridge story while the Astral Express awaits patch 3.0 for that dream memory world.
I have a few pairs of shoes but clara and yunli dont have shoes.
Clara is already underrated in Pure Fiction, paired with Robin + Aventurine + Flex (Topaz for instance), she easily get 30k for PF.
With Jade (which is my personal Flex), I hit 40k PF at like the 2nd run.
Probably Yunli is gonna be even easier to hit this, while being better than Clara at MOC.
Yet, as a Clara enjoyer, a mere copy paste is a HUGE SKIP
As someone who loves Clara, I hate how Yunli feels like Hoyo decided one of their standard characters was a little TOO useful... The most charitable take is that they wanted the counter follow-up playstyle to keep up numbers-wise with the obscene DPS characters we've gotten recently, which also feels bad. If I had the pulls I'd get the LC upgrade for Clara, but I'd rather just save and see what Feixiao has going on. Or skip the next 2 patches and hold out for Sunday 🙏
do you look up for early leaks of upcoming characters kit to review them?
Even if you don't openly talk about leaks here, I think you should be aware that no, we aren't going to shift into counterattack meta any time soon. None of the upcoming characters are going for counterattack mechanic. That way you won't mislead the viewers.
Clara was there, then kinda left alone to her devices until Robin. Yunli could very much end like that going forward.
Do I need her if I already have e1 clara, argenti ?
No. Your good unless you want her
I feel like if you want a Pure Fantasy god you're better off pulling Jade now than Argenti in a few weeks.
I wanted yunli butt i need a better healer for dot team....
yunli is great value but argenti is still the easiest and top pf unit,and so long as that’s one of the end games that most people have issue playing then he’ll always have value too
I'm just fully not a fan of counters in HSR, especially since everything nowadays just stays broken
Yunli definitely
Argenti is for pure Fiction..yunli is for good old moc
Argenti loses by default to me for using ultimate too often
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here’s the thing, when tingyuns five star comes out argenti will become a literal beast. and within that time if u invest in him and then pull for tingyun, you’ll clear pure fiction and moc so insanely auickc
nah i'd physical mc
I don't need an AOE character, so Yunli might be my choice
Hard pass on Yunli. Another primary physical aoe dps does nothing for my account.
Yunli might be better but Argenti is tall, hot, and has one of the best personalities in the game. The answer is pretty clear tbh
Clara is good at every end game mode
Yunli > Clara
therefore Yunli very good dps but not the best at anything
As a E6 Argenti main Yunli is better for sure
Argenti is sexy so he's better
Nah hypercarry robin >>>> other physical dos
Me who never pulls men and thinks Yunli is adorable: "let's see what eod has to say"
yunli cause barefoot
POV: Pulling for bare feet over meta/kit lol
@@BmanRockhartwelp meta wises she’s above average but not top lvl so T1 in most content IMO
@@The_CodFish69 eh idk about that. Besides, from what I saw in the V5 beta testing from other users, Yunli was hitting anywhere from 200k-313k per enhanced counter. Imagine if she got 4-5 enhanced counters in a row. Of course, that could change before 2.4 goes live, but I doubt it.
@@ChiriKain I’ve seen the leaks I know she’s good however let’s not pretend every mode she was tested in has a buff for FUA/counter damage and on top of that there was more opponents that had higher speed on average then normal EG and even then Both Archeron and FF was still competing if not still getting better times.
So like I said she’s good but let’s not ignore most of her stats were inflated in the beta so like I said she’s above average and a good character but not Tier 0 lvl and in most situations not Tier 0.5 aswell.
@@The_CodFish69 She is actually meta, lol. very comparable dmg to acheron.
Husbando
ARGENTI >>>>>> yunMID
Easy... neither