Those reds were clearly visible as you turned in to the hairpin,had you not been looking behind you,you would have seen them and the other kart. These things happen,seen it happen loads of times over the years. Pretty fortunate not to injure yourself which is a bonus though,unexpected ones like that usually hurt the most!
Your never aloud to stop at the hill going up you need full speed to make up the hill you arnt ever aloud to stop at the front I did the exact same thing he did to a guy that stopped at the bottom of the hill he was never aloud to race again and I’m not surprised hurts like mad tho
You are told in the safety briefing not to stop at the bottom of a ramp and to use full throttle until You reach the top. Those who are blaming the driver are out of order. Always check behind You before entering a wide corner in case someone is there is just common sense. The difference between experience and ignorance. Hope You're ok mate. The kart in front of You was so far ahead and if they had followed the rules that would never have happened. Maybe see You at Warrington sometime?! Charlie and Daddy
I do feel very bad for the staff there. I know a few of them and I have for years. To see them have to deal with the budget theyre given is horrible. Fortunately, I've never dealt with horrendous races there, just some of the worst karts I've ever sat in. And that is no way the staffs fault, just teamsport in general.
I felt for the staff Brad. They were a good set of people and I chatted to a lot of them about the karts etc. they really try to encourage fun and good racing etc.
The guy should never stop at the bottom of the ramp granted but considering you planted the throttle after the lights went red and kept it full throttle, I don’t really see it being his fault. It seems you didn’t see the lights change It happens and we’ve all been there, sometimes light changes are easy to miss in the heat of the moment when tunnel vision is in effect
First of all I hope your fine. However in regards to your title & also the racing I watched sadly IMO I think it’s self inflicted. Firstly there’s on overtake and you can see that the person is going towards the barrier (although there’s space for you) you took that line where they wouldn’t of looked at that time & caused a slight collision. In regards to your main accident, the hairpin before going up the hill you turned into it and the lights clearly changed for you to slow down, you didn’t see the lights nor did you see the person Infront of you that stopped (wrongly) at bottom of the ramp. Sadly self inflicted.
They “clearly” turned when you watch it back considering no context of me checking my blind spot. Bad timing combined with a guy stopped at the bottom of a hill when he shouldn’t be doesn’t make it self inflicted. The other incidents are passes on a complete set of rookies who were very unpredictable at a track that id never raced at before. Everything needs context
good video, pretty chaotic with the mobile chicanes or concrete barriers that those others were, im more of a sim racer but it’s cool to see how differently cars are driven to karts, really interesting
I stick the footage on to have somewhere to go back to and for my mates to watch really but this one was poor really considering what happened 😂 thanks for the comment. I love sim racing too, won’t be doing any for a couple of week with the injury I now have 🤦♂️
you have to expect driving standards to be pretty low in an open session. i would suggest your experience had as much to do with your own attitudes as anyone else on track (swearing into your helmet on a straight when nothing else was going on for example). you drove flat out into a kart infront which had possibly stalled. unluckily timed with the shoulder check, i will admit, however this incident was caused by not observing your own surroundings efficiently. try to go into these sessions with a 'guess what the idiot will do' mentality, and don't get worked up about the actions of others as this will only effect your own. for higher driving standards book onto members events, hope to see you at one -iain
Karting for 25 years (starting at 6) I think qualifies as experienced, standard been low is expected, as low as I experienced in this? Not so much. I do however accept that I let my emotions run often when I’m in the kart however the accident had very little to do with been aware of the surroundings given the circumstances.
the video may state that, but you never stop at the bottom as especially with petrol karts you dont have enough power to go up quickly. I never will stop on a red at a bottom of a ramp unless its a down ramp
You never stop at the bottom of a ramp period. It makes no sense to say it’s applicable half way up the ramp. The rule is always carry on and stop at the top. Aside from that it was unfortunate timing of when I check over my right shoulder and the red light coming on. I fail to ever understand how this is “my fault” while recognising a lot of it was bad timing
This is precisely why teamsport should not deploy a straight to red light system. It should always go yellow first and drivers should be inatructed to pull off the racing line before slowing down. Will stop so many accidents like this.
Don't care what any of the comments say, they tell you multiple times literal minutes before you get in your kart to never stop at the bottom of a ramp even on red so it wasn't your fault, even if you are looking behind. On a members night this would never happen. I do think they should bring back the blue flags/lights and emphasise to the public visiting that it is timed and nothing to do with position. Glad you came out of this okay!
Overtaking on yellow flags is the wrong thing to do. Even on the briefing video it clearly says NO OVERTAKING on a yellow flag. Yet there are always some who ignore the rules and the guy who stopped at the bottom of the ramp was in the wrong. Can not stop at the bottom of the ramp. The briefing video could not be more clearer.
pretty sure they tell you not to stop in the middle of a ramp, and before you knocked him he was easily in a position to get up there. i get the frustration though man i really do. glad you're alright though man, that didn't look pleasant
you shouldn't stop at the bottom of ramp, you should go up it but it isn't all on him, u were looking behind to check on the driver you were battling with hense why you didn't see the red flags and then crashed. so really its just an accident but you do need to remain calm especially in motorsports. sportmanship is key.
It's yelloooooooooooow after overtaking someone under yellow...... Also the crash was your fault. Yes maybe he should have not stopped there as you're told if approaching a ramp stop at the top but you didn't pay attention to the flags at all, not only that but you could see him stopped before you turned behind you 🤷🏻♂️
Tbh that was your fault buddy. You were looking behind when red started flashing. Also you stop if you haven't yet gone up the ramp otherwise you continue to the top then stop. The guy you hit was not at fault. But these things do happen. Hope you were OK mate
Using ‘The guy stopped at the bottom of a hill’ is just an absolute bobbins excuse. What difference does it make? It was a red flag situation, you sent it (whilst on a red flag) and looked backwards, sending it….
You are told in the safety briefing not to stop at the bottom of a ramp and to use full throttle until You reach the top. Those who are blaming the driver are out of order. Always check behind You before entering a wide corner in case someone is there is just common sense. The difference between experience and ignorance. Hope You're ok mate. The kart in front of You was so far ahead and if they had followed the rules that would never have happened. Maybe see You at Warrington sometime?! Charlie and Daddy
Hope you were OK mate? I think that crash was maybe caused by a number of factors, the guy shouldn't have stopped at the bottom of the bridge I agree, but to be fair, a spun kart could also have ended up there. Looking at your helmet camera direction just before impact, you looked over your shoulder at the guy you'd just passed and therefore maybe didn't see the lights turn yellow then red, so you didn't lift. You didn't appear see the stationary kart either until it was too late and because you were still hard on it, avoidance was impossible.
You should have been black flagged a few times during the duration of this video, you are a very dangerous driver. Might go fast but bad and stupid, might have hurt the others. Sorry, you need feedback because swearing at others is dangerous here
Yes that did happen. I had it in one of the other karts too where the engine would continue to stick to higher revs than it should even though you was fully off the gas. They were a mess to be truthful
@@jbLUFC lucky a kid didn't get them as they wouldn't have known it was not normal and could have crashed... I had people slamming on on the red light too and nearly rear ended them... It's epic you bent the steering wheel lol
@@davefool6815 people don’t realise how dangerous it can be, they see it the same as bumper cars. This happened like 6 week ago now and I’m still suffering from the injury.
Those reds were clearly visible as you turned in to the hairpin,had you not been looking behind you,you would have seen them and the other kart. These things happen,seen it happen loads of times over the years. Pretty fortunate not to injure yourself which is a bonus though,unexpected ones like that usually hurt the most!
your not supposed to stop at the bottom of a ramp, granted it is an easy mistake and the driver could have been more aware, goes both ways really
They specifically tell you to never stop at the bottom of the hill in the safety briefing, even on a red.
You gotta watch where you're going mate!
Your never aloud to stop at the hill going up you need full speed to make up the hill you arnt ever aloud to stop at the front I did the exact same thing he did to a guy that stopped at the bottom of the hill he was never aloud to race again and I’m not surprised hurts like mad tho
You are told in the safety briefing not to stop at the bottom of a ramp and to use full throttle until You reach the top. Those who are blaming the driver are out of order. Always check behind You before entering a wide corner in case someone is there is just common sense. The difference between experience and ignorance. Hope You're ok mate. The kart in front of You was so far ahead and if they had followed the rules that would never have happened. Maybe see You at Warrington sometime?! Charlie and Daddy
I do feel very bad for the staff there. I know a few of them and I have for years. To see them have to deal with the budget theyre given is horrible. Fortunately, I've never dealt with horrendous races there, just some of the worst karts I've ever sat in. And that is no way the staffs fault, just teamsport in general.
I felt for the staff Brad. They were a good set of people and I chatted to a lot of them about the karts etc. they really try to encourage fun and good racing etc.
These karts have recieved so much abuse from the scallys that drive them to shit
The guy should never stop at the bottom of the ramp granted but considering you planted the throttle after the lights went red and kept it full throttle, I don’t really see it being his fault. It seems you didn’t see the lights change
It happens and we’ve all been there, sometimes light changes are easy to miss in the heat of the moment when tunnel vision is in effect
First of all I hope your fine.
However in regards to your title & also the racing I watched sadly IMO I think it’s self inflicted.
Firstly there’s on overtake and you can see that the person is going towards the barrier (although there’s space for you) you took that line where they wouldn’t of looked at that time & caused a slight collision.
In regards to your main accident, the hairpin before going up the hill you turned into it and the lights clearly changed for you to slow down, you didn’t see the lights nor did you see the person Infront of you that stopped (wrongly) at bottom of the ramp.
Sadly self inflicted.
They “clearly” turned when you watch it back considering no context of me checking my blind spot.
Bad timing combined with a guy stopped at the bottom of a hill when he shouldn’t be doesn’t make it self inflicted.
The other incidents are passes on a complete set of rookies who were very unpredictable at a track that id never raced at before. Everything needs context
Red line when you go into the corner, keep your foot down and look behind... Only one to blame. Me myself and I
Clearly your fault, I would have seen the lights, you must have seen him and you shouldn’t have looked behind you, rookie error
*overtakes someone on a yellow flag* proceeds to get annoyed at people overtaking on a yellow flag.
I didn’t overtake someone on a yellow 🤷♂️😂
@@jbLUFC 3 minutes 40 seconds guy with the bunny hat? I believe the definition of overtaking is driving past someone correct me if I'm wrong
good video, pretty chaotic with the mobile chicanes or concrete barriers that those others were, im more of a sim racer but it’s cool to see how differently cars are driven to karts, really interesting
I stick the footage on to have somewhere to go back to and for my mates to watch really but this one was poor really considering what happened 😂 thanks for the comment. I love sim racing too, won’t be doing any for a couple of week with the injury I now have 🤦♂️
you have to expect driving standards to be pretty low in an open session. i would suggest your experience had as much to do with your own attitudes as anyone else on track (swearing into your helmet on a straight when nothing else was going on for example). you drove flat out into a kart infront which had possibly stalled. unluckily timed with the shoulder check, i will admit, however this incident was caused by not observing your own surroundings efficiently. try to go into these sessions with a 'guess what the idiot will do' mentality, and don't get worked up about the actions of others as this will only effect your own. for higher driving standards book onto members events, hope to see you at one -iain
Karting for 25 years (starting at 6) I think qualifies as experienced, standard been low is expected, as low as I experienced in this? Not so much.
I do however accept that I let my emotions run often when I’m in the kart however the accident had very little to do with been aware of the surroundings given the circumstances.
@@jbLUFC your fault dude! Just admit it. You screwed up.
Must always look ahead and especially round the next corner at this track. Never look behind always ahead.
🤦♂️😂
ye the exit of the hairpin before going up the hill is all on you, he can stop there, the video does say don't stop halfway up the ramp
the video may state that, but you never stop at the bottom as especially with petrol karts you dont have enough power to go up quickly. I never will stop on a red at a bottom of a ramp unless its a down ramp
You never stop at the bottom of a ramp period. It makes no sense to say it’s applicable half way up the ramp. The rule is always carry on and stop at the top. Aside from that it was unfortunate timing of when I check over my right shoulder and the red light coming on. I fail to ever understand how this is “my fault” while recognising a lot of it was bad timing
@@jbLUFC if its a red flag you stop you didnt
@@jbLUFC ye the looking over the shoulder was so unfortunate
@@SpeedyRank u know what general public can be like though some of them just lack common sense and don’t know this
This is precisely why teamsport should not deploy a straight to red light system. It should always go yellow first and drivers should be inatructed to pull off the racing line before slowing down. Will stop so many accidents like this.
Don't care what any of the comments say, they tell you multiple times literal minutes before you get in your kart to never stop at the bottom of a ramp even on red so it wasn't your fault, even if you are looking behind. On a members night this would never happen. I do think they should bring back the blue flags/lights and emphasise to the public visiting that it is timed and nothing to do with position. Glad you came out of this okay!
Why are you looking behind you when you know everyone on track is slower than you?, eyes front, also, the go kart has brakes
Overtaking on yellow flags is the wrong thing to do. Even on the briefing video it clearly says NO OVERTAKING on a yellow flag. Yet there are always some who ignore the rules and the guy who stopped at the bottom of the ramp was in the wrong. Can not stop at the bottom of the ramp. The briefing video could not be more clearer.
any advice for karting? are open sessions not the best to even learn?
pretty sure they tell you not to stop in the middle of a ramp, and before you knocked him he was easily in a position to get up there. i get the frustration though man i really do. glad you're alright though man, that didn't look pleasant
you shouldn't stop at the bottom of ramp, you should go up it but it isn't all on him, u were looking behind to check on the driver you were battling with hense why you didn't see the red flags and then crashed. so really its just an accident but you do need to remain calm especially in motorsports. sportmanship is key.
It's yelloooooooooooow after overtaking someone under yellow......
Also the crash was your fault. Yes maybe he should have not stopped there as you're told if approaching a ramp stop at the top but you didn't pay attention to the flags at all, not only that but you could see him stopped before you turned behind you 🤷🏻♂️
Tbh that was your fault buddy. You were looking behind when red started flashing. Also you stop if you haven't yet gone up the ramp otherwise you continue to the top then stop. The guy you hit was not at fault. But these things do happen. Hope you were OK mate
Using ‘The guy stopped at the bottom of a hill’ is just an absolute bobbins excuse. What difference does it make? It was a red flag situation, you sent it (whilst on a red flag) and looked backwards, sending it….
You are told in the safety briefing not to stop at the bottom of a ramp and to use full throttle until You reach the top. Those who are blaming the driver are out of order. Always check behind You before entering a wide corner in case someone is there is just common sense. The difference between experience and ignorance. Hope You're ok mate. The kart in front of You was so far ahead and if they had followed the rules that would never have happened. Maybe see You at Warrington sometime?! Charlie and Daddy
it was a red flag your supposed to stop they did you didnt
😂😂
Hope you were OK mate? I think that crash was maybe caused by a number of factors, the guy shouldn't have stopped at the bottom of the bridge I agree, but to be fair, a spun kart could also have ended up there. Looking at your helmet camera direction just before impact, you looked over your shoulder at the guy you'd just passed and therefore maybe didn't see the lights turn yellow then red, so you didn't lift. You didn't appear see the stationary kart either until it was too late and because you were still hard on it, avoidance was impossible.
The lights went red before the shoulder check, with a decent amount of window to see
@@AaronYEETSYeah, watching again loads of times I'd say they went red at about the same time as your shoulder check 👍
You should have been black flagged a few times during the duration of this video, you are a very dangerous driver. Might go fast but bad and stupid, might have hurt the others. Sorry, you need feedback because swearing at others is dangerous here
😂😂 karting isn’t your thing my friend
I legit got a headache from the sound of the karts why they sound like that 😢
they sound amazing in person, good thing its not electric
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Can I just ask did that kark throttle stick on... Cos I had that same one last week and it fuckin sticks intermittent. I had to change it
Yes that did happen. I had it in one of the other karts too where the engine would continue to stick to higher revs than it should even though you was fully off the gas. They were a mess to be truthful
@@jbLUFC lucky a kid didn't get them as they wouldn't have known it was not normal and could have crashed... I had people slamming on on the red light too and nearly rear ended them... It's epic you bent the steering wheel lol
@@davefool6815 people don’t realise how dangerous it can be, they see it the same as bumper cars. This happened like 6 week ago now and I’m still suffering from the injury.