That circular footwork sequence should have been a level 10. It is unreal. The speed, the closed hold, the knees-action, the changing of direction while in close hold, the sustained edges. And they are the only ones that can do this whole thing counter-clockwise. They are beyond awesome. They are the ice-dance.
I love this program. It may not be as "showy" as other programs they've skated to, but it's so sophisticated and elegant, it's like there's no gravity, they glide effortlessly. Truly the epitome of ice dance.
J,aime ce duo de patineur artistique Tessa et Scott sont d,une élégance et un charme qui vous font revez ,,moi je les adore et je les regarde et ça m'émerveille BRAVO À VOUS DEUX POUR LES BEAUX CADEAUX QUE VOUS NOUS DONNEZ ET MERCI..
Tessa and Scott have the most impact on me when I watch them perform. They are pure magic. They bring a special presence that no other ice dancers can bring. When I watched this live, I started crying because it was so beautiful. D/W may have power and athleticism, but V/M have something that can't be described with words. Something that makes them different from everyone else.
Emily Gorey revisiting all their programs just because they might be announcing their retirement any time soon and I'm going to be missing them and their magic on the ice.
Just so elegantly boring if you choose to use the word "elegant". It was far from unmatched skills. Three years later, after watching these programs several times, it is more evident to me that D/W were the clear champions by a country mile. Its obvious they felt the need to prove to the world and themselves that they can win again after losing to D/W consistently for more than two years. Hmmm we'll see what happens.
erin peacexo I don't think you know the definition of elegance... Why such a need to re-vamp the tension between the two teams under a comment that doesn't even mention D/W? Can we just appreciate both w/out ALWAYS having to compare the two.
You're just fueling the fire by saying erin peace doesn't know the definition of elegance. What is that about? I agree this program was not Olympic caliber. It was mediocre at best.
If it was not Olympic caliber, how did it still medal then? And I was just questionning their comment about how this performance lacked "elegance". They questionned the orginal poster's word use of elegance, so why can't I do the same? And my comment was far from "fueling the fire" if you compare it to what they said... yikess man..
As I am watching this video again I can't help but reminisce their past performances, how they executed the steps with the rythmn of the music. They were really a perfect pair with gracefulness and elegance. I kept on watching every video that they have here in the YT. How I wish they will still dance not as a competition but as an exhibition for their fans. Thanks for this video.
Watch the arched back of Tessa and her swan like arm movements throughout this performance... just beautiful. Thank You Tessa and Scot for so many creative, breath taking, intimate performances over the years. It's been an honor to watch!!
Sophie Bunbury Sour grapes again.. Meryl does not have ugly posture....When will you people ever give it up....Meryl and Charlie deserved the gold and have dominated Virtue and Moir for the last two years..... Tessa has been bobbling her twizzles regularly. This performance was vanilla ice cream. Its fine if you like vanilla ice cream......You're entitled to your opinion, but stop the nasty remarks.
starsmoon0216 How can u like davis and white and call V/M vanilla wehn davis and white never done anything original? Flaling your arms and calling it persian is not original FYI. this is a V/M video. if you have nothing of value to say, why are you here? Why do you keep on coming here? SEEM like you love this so called "vanilla' performance alittle too much.
The judges tried to give it to the French, but in the end because their short program was so clearly inferior, even as the scores did not reflect the real difference. But they got higher scores in free dance for no reason at all, their program was as good as V/M, not better.
I'm Canadian and I really don't know who deserved the gold for ice dance. Honestly speaking, I do wish that Tessa and Scott won the gold at Sochi, but had they gotten it, I may not have been able to see them still compete till Pyeongchang. In the end, I'm just so happy that Tessa and Scott are still competing and hopefully they'll get their second OGM at Pyeongchang! :)
It's been more than three years and I still enjoy watching V/M and D/W's free dance programs from the Sochi Olympics. D/W are more athletic and V/M are smoother and more graceful, which I prefer. I also love the special bond that exists between Tessa and Scott. It really enhances their performances. As much as I adore Charlie White, I think Scott is the better skater. His lines are just exquisite. That said, both couples are extraordinary and it is a joy to watch them.
You are full of reason. Scott and Tessa have something in their performances that simply exists in themselves, and cannot be taught, it is something extremely special , beautiful and natural in them . And , undoubtedly Scott is the better skater .
This was a SOLID GOLD performance!Their connection the foot work the elegance and flow they bring you into their world. ABSOLUTELY stunning like no other.BRAVO 💙❤🧡💚You can tell Tessa has had many years of baller training as well
Agreed!! But only one team could win the gold. Meryl and Charlie's program was much more technically difficult. They had more complex choreography and speed. Artistically they are right on par with Tessa and Scott.
Both Tessa and Scot are extra ordinary while on the ice. They are very talented ice dancer.! I watched them since they were young. Very emotional when they retired most especially when they went on separated journey of their life . They have a magic chemistry .!
Gold-Silver-Gold. Nothing to complain about there! Plus their “Umbrellas of Cherbourg” at the 2008 World Championships was so beautiful there aren’t words to describe the picture of young love they created. I love their skating more than any other pairs I’ve seen, whether in dance or figure skating pairs. Yuzuru Hanyu is the only other skater who’s body, as he flies across the ice, just takes your breath away.
The absolute BEST! As Christopher Dean said "I just think, 'Beautiful'. I just think that their quality, their abilities, their presence… everything about them… they seem to have captured a spirit, and I think indeed they have that connection and people identify with that. Magical!"
They have a nice skating style, but this performance was technically a lot less difficult than Meryl and Charlie's program and the way they presented it. Its no doubt they didn't win the gold medal.
While this program was artistically beautiful, it lacked the technical difficulty needed to win a gold medal. There's no way they could have beaten Meryl and Charlie with this performance. That's why they didn't win the gold.
I'm sorry, I watch this and I don't understand how they are not Olympic champions. the dancing, the quality of each movement, the subtlety, the in-sync-ness with the music, the emotions are all so unmatched. I love this program so much. D/W may have the elements, but V/M will always be the true dancers. And 20 years from now, history will prove that, as the all time greats always withstand the test of time.
Davis & White are the best ice dancers EVER in the U.S. Like Torvill & Dean, they'll be legends in 20 years and we'll be saying Virtue and Moir who? lol!
Jodi J What the heck is your problem that you have decided to invade this page when you're not even a VM fan? Shouldn't you stay on a DW page? You've made your point, you think they're boring, they suck, blah, blah, blah. We get it, it's ok to leave now you weirdo. And take that other nutjob, starcrap or whatever, with you.
Neejaqueen Wow, you're quite nasty!!! Your "crazies" invaded the DW page like the plague. At least I don't use foul language like some of the Virtue and Moir FAN-ATICS commenting on Meryl and Charlie's page. Last time I checked, freedom of speech still prevailed.
Jodi J I agree with you. Davis and White will be legends in their own right, and history will show that. Meryl and Charlie are world class....and I'm not even American and I believe that.
Tessa and Scott touches my heart really when they performed as if they are two people very much I love I always watched them everyday nobody pairs in skating can do as Tessa and Scott done do beautifully ❤
Virtue Moir skated this beautifully and are hands down the best ice dancers of their generation. But this was definitely not their best choreographed program. Can't wait to see how they do at the Olympics this February!
This was a safe program to skate. After watching it several times, it does showcase their skating skills, but they took no risks. It was nice but not much more.
danceskate cheer Agreed. It was not something you'd choose for an Olympic program. Choreography not very difficult. Davis and White had a much more difficult program.
I sometimes feel like I haven’t fully appreciated their dances just because every time I watch their performances all over again, I still find myself dropping my jaw and wonder if I had the same reaction 😁
What an exquisite performance. They are truly the most talented skaters ever. But davis/White are the most athletic ever. It's comparing apples to oranges. I'm a fan of both teams and I'm glad each team was Olympic champion once.
I agree with your comments. Personally, I am a sports fan, and I enjoy athleticism, which is Davis and White's forte. VM are exquisite, but I want to be entertained. There is something about watching DW that is mesmerizing, a ying and yang-Charlie's strength paired with Meryl's delicacy, but she is a little spitfire underneath! Charlie even has admitted that Meryl is a better skater. They both have their strengths that make for a good pair that pleases the eye and the crowd. Since DW have own gold for the last 2 years, they should be hailed as the best skaters, until another couple takes over and starts winning gold.
I think people underestimate the fortitude of both these teams. To come back and stand on the Olympic podium again in any position is a remarkable feat. To trade gold and silver while battling for the top spot for an entire quad is legend. I agree with you too; each was totally deserving of the OGM in their time. For their era, no man lead his partner like Scott Moir; no man lifted his partner like Charlie White - and each was paired perfectly with his ice dance princess. I wish there had been less bitterness surrounding their final competition on the part of some fans, but time has a way of taking care of that too. It was a privilege to watch them all and they continue to have my love and thanks.
nightswimmer99 I love the way you phrased that so eloquently. As much as I love Meryl and Charlie, I do miss Tessa and Scott as well I truly believe both teams elevated ice dancing to a new level. But the judges got it right no matter how bitter some of the VM fans were.
I totally agree. Personally I prefer Tessa and Scott (I absoulutely love them), but both teams are just incredible and I miss both these pairs in this season so much!
мне хочется плакать. Великолепные, легкий, грациозные - таких можно пересчитать на пальцах. Как жаль, что они ушли из любительского спорта. Очень скучаю по их выступлениям. Без них танцы на льду смотрятся иначе. Спасибо, они невероятные фигуристы.
There were no standing ovations from the Russian crowd after the performances of Virtue/Moir, Davis/White, Yuna, Mao, Carolina.... They only stood and clapped for their own country, and had no manners at all. Hope that any other big events would not be held in Russia, FOREVER!
And four years later when the winter olympic was held in korea there are a large group of korean volunteer that support any other country outside korea..they cheer for other country and gave them support and attention. I can say that tessa and scott audience in pyeongchang is so much alive than this one..
I see. Making excuses for the Koreans. Why aren't you doing the same for the Russians? I suppose the same could be said about the Russians who left hateful comments on Carolina's insta account, right? By the way, how did Adelina disrespect Yuna Kim?
Maybe she was feeling nauseous. Maybe she needed to use the restroom. I have followed Adelina on her instagram, and she comes across as a really nice girl, by no means disrespectful. She recently posted a picture of Yuzuru, Shoma, and Javi, congratulating them and expressing how she wished she could congratulate them in person. I'm sure she didn't mean to be rude. We all do accidentally rude things and don't even realize it.
This was a poor choice for a Olympic year. It was just lackluster in my opinion. I think they were trying to re-create their 2010 success which obviously did not happen. Meryl & Charlie's program was much better all around than Tessa & Scott's hence the result. I hope Tessa & Scott can bring back that spark in the upcoming season. They lost it to Meryl & Charlie somewhere around the beginning of 2013 and never regained it. Good luck to them!!
+erin peacexo when will dw fans get over their sick obsession with vm and stop polluting their videos on yt? Seriously you sound like a broken record. If you don't like them stop wasting your time on their videos then.
I am entitled to my own opinion, and whether or not you agree I couldn't care less. Let us clarify your rude comment. I don't have a "sick obsession with vm" or ANYONE else for that matter. Last time I checked this venue was for posting respectful comments on whatever topic. Here we have figure skating. One of us is being respectful and its not YOU!! How dare you say I'm polluting VM videos on you tube. I voice an opinion that a lot of people share. V/M's FD was a real snooze. Everything about it was bad from the music to the choreography. And by the way before you go and blame Marina Zoeuva, I read it was THEIR choice of music. I'll reiterate - poor choice of music. You want to see some stinking pollution, go to D/W's videos and see the lovely comments that were left by mostly V/M fans and some Papadakis /Cizeron fans which by the way had awful things to say about Virtue & Moir as well. Go stalk them and leave me alone!!!!!!!
I've been reading a lot of posts from V/M and D/W videos. They are both degrading, but I think V/M's fan base is just a little worse. The Sochi Olympics are long gone. Time to look to 2018. D/W were better and deserved to win. But if V/M want a chance a gold in 2018, they need up their level of performance. I wish them luck because they are very talented.
love them tooooooooo much ....theyre so soft and fuwa fuwa, so different than many other skaters who are so hard and fierce to the ice.... its as if they dont want any medal but to just skate..... it almost feels like skating on clouds when i watch them....
I might be an alien, but it's one of my favorite shows. I particularly like its softness and its romanticism. Technically it's one of their most demanding and difficult programs. The lifts of great difficulty follow one another and are linked as if by magic. The quality and precision of their skating is astounding.
How was that not a standing ovation? They are legitimately amazing. And I get Davis and White were great too this quad but Virtue and Moir are the best ice dancers ever. Period
@@cathyzhang7146 Always promoting the French, on each of VM's videos... As you know Tessa and Scott are the best of all time, so you hope to reach a large audience! I really like Anissina and Gwendal, they were innovative and impressive in their lifts, they had a great career, they don't need your promotion. No other couple, however, has the emotional and artistic stature of the Canadians. It's the kind of genius that can only germinate once in a century, and that can't be erased from history. Many couples were or are remarkable but very few will mark history.
I think my favourite part about the comments is when someone comments something like "I didn't find this boring" or "they are amazing" and people feel the need to comment things about D/W. For the "I didn't find this boring" one, people commented that it didn't match D/W program and while that may be true, they weren't saying that it was better, they were saying they didn't find it boring. Nothing to do with D/W program at all. For the "they are amazing" one, I saw people commenting about the difficulty and how they couldn't have beaten D/W with it. And again, while that may be true, all they were doing was complimenting their favourites, not talking about D/W or how they should have won. So why do people feel the need to bring them up? Like... they weren't bad mouthing D/W. You don't need to defend them. All they were doing is commenting on V/M and how much they love them and their program. If someone is bad mouthing D/W, for sure, go ahead and defend them but do not create unnecessary drama because someone's favourite isn't the same as yours.
I have always thought that V/M created more innovative and beautiful dances than D/W. I really believe that are the successors to Torvill and Dean.....listen to the commentator at the end....."the best in the field".... All in personal taste I think,
Ok, I just watched this performance and then immediately afterwards I watched Meryl Davis and Charlie Whites performance. This time, it was a no brainer. Meryl & Charlie were absolutely phenomenal, hands down the best. I don’t care if you’re French, Canadian, Russian or American. There is no hiding from the truth.....Meryl and Charlie were heads and tails above. Their program left me speechless, breathless, and crying..😭❤️👌💯💯
I've watched both FDs on 50% speed and on that night, it was Davis White by a landslide - couldn't be beaten - they danced an incredible story - DW FD is still rated one of the best ever
I can skate without holding on to the wall lol. I'm not a figure skater, but I know the sport well. Tessa & Scott are very talented, but this program and performance doesn't come near Meryl & Charlie's program or performance. I think they skated it well, but didn't have a chance at gold if Meryl & Charlie skated a clean, well executed program which they did. Silver medal was what they deserved. Its certainly nothing to be ashamed of.
Deserved gold. Absolutely flawless execution that elevated the program's potential. They are better skaters than DW (the most overscored ice dancers of all time) by default, anyway.
Lindsay A. No criticism on asteogawl for hating on another couple? Saying D/W are "the most overscored ice dancers of all time" compels me to comment on such an inflammatory statement.
Absolutely no way Virtue & Moir deserved gold in Sochi with this dull and lackluster performance and program. I think D/W were actually under scored with the way they skated. If you want to see over scored programs, take a look at Virtue & Moir's inflated scores THIS season. Totally ridiculous numbers due to the Canadian lobby pushing for them.
Tessa and Scott have such a wonderful ease and grace on ice that is unmatched. Meryl and Davis may have won the numbers game, but to me, T/S's skating has an emotional impact unlike any of the other pairs.
"Meryl and Davis"? Are you serious? lol! Tessa and Scott bore me to tears. It's all about the kind of skating you prefer. They're both great teams in their own way. To say Meryl and Charlie "won the numbers game" is ridiculous.
Tessa and Scott had a nice program. They do have good skating skills. I will agree to that. However, their free dance was inferior to Meryl and Charlie's - technically much more difficult, complex choreography and speed was unmatched. They were on par artistically but that's about it...Sorry, but Tessa and Scott did not deserve the gold medal. Meryl and Charlie beat them hands down!!
starsmoon0216 Absolutely. I think these commentators are missing the old days when every couple circled the rink to the same music, the medals were decided and then they held the free dance portion... :)
D/W came up when V/M was struggling with tessa's injury. The judges made them another level (according to the scores), and even after V/M came back on their best, D/W's scores were way too high to beat. Even though V/M have much better skating skills (which is MOST important in icedance), they've just been downscored. The commenter also mentions that they are the 'BEST' in the field, the 'BETTER' skaters (no object). Since they were sometimes inconsistent and D/W aren't, there could have been some competitions that D/W beat V/M. But still, like this competition, V/M should have deserved their golds at least when they were flawless.
So, gold/silver silver/gold at olympics; gold/silver/gold/silver, silver/gold/silver/gold at world: even scores for the most amazing dance pairs in the actual world. My greatest compliments to them both.
Хочется в конце танца закричать браво. Ах, Тесса, ты чудо, одновременно легкая, как пёрышко, и в то же время очень сильная, так стоять в воздухе с абсолютно ровным станом в поддержке, сколько силы нужно иметь, чтобы так держаться, и все ее подпрыжки и прыжки в поддержке, легкие и сильные одновременно. Чувствуется, дивчина дай боже , какая сильная, чувствуется принадлежность к сильной и красивой славянской национальности. Великая танцорша, великая Тесса!!! браво! И партнер подходит , как никто к ней!
I am American. I love these two they are amazing. But I have to be honest, I don’t know what it was, but I just didn’t feel that magic during this performance. But OMG 2018 WAS LIFE!!!! NOTHING will ever compare to that performance! EVER!!
This was flat and bland with zero connection between them, just polite smiles on their faces the entire time. They stayed in traditional dance holds for so much of the time it felt very static. Regardless of how anyone feels about V&M, I can't imagine how anyone could think that this subdued performance should have won gold over the much more dynamic FD from Davis & White. Ironically, V&M lost the FD in Peyongchang, too even though they won overall.
@@L1623VP you have certainly accomplished great things, remarkable things ... you must have a great technical and artistic knowledge and in addition you have incredible qualities and phenomenal talent ... you must be a recognized and adored athlete just like Tessa and Scott actually .... or are you just giving your opinion?
@@rosanishina5097 Your childish response to say, "Are you an adored, professional athlete?" isn't an argument. A person doesn't have to be an opera singer to know when someone is singing off-key. You don't have to be an Academy Award winning actor to notice someone can't act. This performance by V&M was wooden, at best. That's a fact.
@@L1623VP Your opinions are not facts. Yes it takes expert knowledge to judge the quality of an ice dance program and in addition you have to be there to see it (the camera only shows an angle). You express your taste, just a personal opinion among thousands who say exactly the opposite. You chose to ignore the true meaning of my first post, so reread it with humility and maybe you will understand something!
@@rosanishina5097 You want facts? Okay, I'll give you some facts about V&M that have nothing to do with opinions or what "style" someone prefers, but viewing the objective competitive record. It's interesting that after Peyongchang, the media took to calling V&M the "most decorated" ice dance team of all time and not "the greatest" of all time. That's because V&M skated for 11 seasons, far longer than most dance teams stick it out. So, of course if you skate longer you're going to win additional medals, but do more medals make you "the greatest"? Equally, when you compare V&M 's accomplishments to those of other dance teams apples to apples, it becomes clear that they've been surpassed in other ways regardless of their second Olympic gold medal. Russia's Grishuk & Platov also won two Olympic ice dance gold medals 20 years before V&M in '94 and '98. V&M never successfully defended a World Championship, winning three times in '10, '12, and '17. G&P won four consecutive World Championships from '94 through '97. V&M have only one GPF title to their credit, while G&P have two. In their eleven-year career, V&M were undefeated in only one season; G&P accomplished it twice. Although Davis & White retired after defeating V&M at the 2014 Olympics, they have more gold medal victories over V&M during their competitive years together: D&W (9) vs. V&M (5). If we remove Four Continents from the tally because it's not a full international competition, gold medal victories over each other = D&W (7) V&M (3). Total golds from all international competitions during their years together = D&W (22) V&M (14). Total golds without Four Continents = D&W (19) V&M (11). During their years of competing against V&M, D&W had three undefeated seasons; V&M had none. D&W also have five consecutive GPF championship wins, a feat no other skater has achieved. V&M have one, earned after D&W retired. It's clear that during their competitive years together that D&W were by far the more winning team. So it's interesting when we compare V&M's record against other dance teams. Doing so it becomes clear why they're easily not "the greatest" dance team of all time and why the media didn't crown them as such. Fans may think so, and that's fine, but the competitive record tells a different story.
That circular footwork sequence should have been a level 10. It is unreal. The speed, the closed hold, the knees-action, the changing of direction while in close hold, the sustained edges. And they are the only ones that can do this whole thing counter-clockwise. They are beyond awesome. They are the ice-dance.
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Эта пара не просто талантлива, она гениальная. Превзойти их нереально!
I love this program. It may not be as "showy" as other programs they've skated to, but it's so sophisticated and elegant, it's like there's no gravity, they glide effortlessly. Truly the epitome of ice dance.
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J,aime ce duo de patineur artistique Tessa et Scott sont d,une élégance et un charme qui vous font revez ,,moi je les adore et je les regarde et ça m'émerveille BRAVO À VOUS DEUX POUR LES BEAUX CADEAUX QUE VOUS NOUS DONNEZ ET MERCI..
Tessa and Scott have the most impact on me when I watch them perform. They are pure magic. They bring a special presence that no other ice dancers can bring. When I watched this live, I started crying because it was so beautiful. D/W may have power and athleticism, but V/M have something that can't be described with words. Something that makes them different from everyone else.
Emily Gorey revisiting all their programs just because they might be announcing their retirement any time soon and I'm going to be missing them and their magic on the ice.
Emily Gorey shiu
Emily Gorey their chemistry is unrivalled
Emily Gorey D and W had better chemistry in Sochi. They looked so natural whereas V and M had a forced facial expression on their face.
Emily Gorey, exactly so
Pure elegance, softness, emotion and unmatched skills. They are truly unique. No one like them.
So true!
Just so elegantly boring if you choose to use the word "elegant". It was far from unmatched skills. Three years later, after watching these programs several times, it is more evident to me that D/W were the clear champions by a country mile. Its obvious they felt the need to prove to the world and themselves that they can win again after losing to D/W consistently for more than two years. Hmmm we'll see what happens.
erin peacexo I don't think you know the definition of elegance... Why such a need to re-vamp the tension between the two teams under a comment that doesn't even mention D/W? Can we just appreciate both w/out ALWAYS having to compare the two.
You're just fueling the fire by saying erin peace doesn't know the definition of elegance. What is that about? I agree this program was not Olympic caliber. It was mediocre at best.
If it was not Olympic caliber, how did it still medal then? And I was just questionning their comment about how this performance lacked "elegance". They questionned the orginal poster's word use of elegance, so why can't I do the same? And my comment was far from "fueling the fire" if you compare it to what they said... yikess man..
I love how they dance and treat each other with such tenderness, the look on their eyes, their moves, everything they do looks... smooth and graceful.
1:17 did he...did he just kiss her hand? Man that was so sweet 😭💞
oml yes and at 2:26 too im crying
There are three hand kisses. The first is at 0:19 before they turned to the audience to begin their skate.
This performance is so underrated. One of the best V/M programs, by far. Love that lift at the end. So regal, so strong.
They tell a story when they skate. Its beautiful.
As I am watching this video again I can't help but reminisce their past performances, how they executed the steps with the rythmn of the music. They were really a perfect pair with gracefulness and elegance. I kept on watching every video that they have here in the YT. How I wish they will still dance not as a competition but as an exhibition for their fans. Thanks for this video.
Watch the arched back of Tessa and her swan like arm movements throughout this performance... just beautiful. Thank You Tessa and Scot for so many creative, breath taking, intimate performances over the years. It's been an honor to watch!!
SO much more refreshing than meryl and her ugly posture!
Sophie Bunbury Sour grapes again.. Meryl does not have ugly posture....When will you people ever give it up....Meryl and Charlie deserved the gold and have dominated Virtue and Moir for the last two years..... Tessa has been bobbling her twizzles regularly. This performance was vanilla ice cream. Its fine if you like vanilla ice cream......You're entitled to your opinion, but stop the nasty remarks.
starsmoon0216 Vanilla ice cream. lol! Excellent!
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How can u like davis and white and call V/M vanilla wehn davis and white never done anything original? Flaling your arms and calling it persian is not original FYI.
this is a V/M video. if you have nothing of value to say, why are you here? Why do you keep on coming here? SEEM like you love this so called "vanilla' performance alittle too much.
"wehn was the last time they did anything original?"
At the 2014 Olympics and every single program they've skated over the years.
They won Olympic gold yesterday 4 years after this event. 2 Gold 1 Silver in Ice Dancing, has to be the greatest Ice Dancer
GeniusDolphin this should have been gold too
The judges tried to give it to the French, but in the end because their short program was so clearly inferior, even as the scores did not reflect the real difference. But they got higher scores in free dance for no reason at all, their program was as good as V/M, not better.
Genius Dolphin Actually V/M have 3 gold and 2 silver olympic medals.
Yes I am aware of the team gold and silver as well :)
Silver with 114,66 score
This pair radiate happiness when they skate, they are truly gifted
You said it. The word is radiate. They radiate. This is what makes them so much more. 2021
I'm Canadian and I really don't know who deserved the gold for ice dance. Honestly speaking, I do wish that Tessa and Scott won the gold at Sochi, but had they gotten it, I may not have been able to see them still compete till Pyeongchang. In the end, I'm just so happy that Tessa and Scott are still competing and hopefully they'll get their second OGM at Pyeongchang! :)
Olivia Lau Completely agree. And I think they are now better than ever.
They did it. Deservedly
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I agree can you imagine if we never got to see those amazing programs in Pyeongchang???
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It's been more than three years and I still enjoy watching V/M and D/W's free dance programs from the Sochi Olympics. D/W are more athletic and V/M are smoother and more graceful, which I prefer. I also love the special bond that exists between Tessa and Scott. It really enhances their performances. As much as I adore Charlie White, I think Scott is the better skater. His lines are just exquisite. That said, both couples are extraordinary and it is a joy to watch them.
You are full of reason.
Scott and Tessa have something in their performances that simply exists in themselves, and cannot be taught, it is something extremely special , beautiful and natural in them . And , undoubtedly Scott is the better skater .
This was a SOLID GOLD performance!Their connection the foot work the elegance and flow they bring you into their world. ABSOLUTELY stunning like no other.BRAVO 💙❤🧡💚You can tell Tessa has had many years of baller training as well
4:52 "it's not a standing ovation here but..."
even the commentators were bothered by the coldness of the crowd
It's Russia. What do you expect 🤷
BOTH Davis/White and Moir/Virtue are amazing teams😍They both skated very well that night!
Agreed!! But only one team could win the gold. Meryl and Charlie's program was much more technically difficult. They had more complex choreography and speed. Artistically they are right on par with Tessa and Scott.
They are both so incredibly graceful! This was a truly beautiful performance..
This ice dancing partner Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir is very unique.
I love watching them in RUclips.
I like their performance so much. 👏👏👏👏
I didn't even have to see the other performances. This is by far the most captivating one. Deserves gold.
Nah Davis and White took this one
Maleeha Sulehri yep
Maleeha Sulehri Mi Girls humping pillows girl humping pillow
LadyDominion
Girls playing with themselves
Ppl ok ok
Both Tessa and Scot are extra ordinary while on the ice. They are very talented ice dancer.! I watched them since they were young. Very emotional when they retired most especially when they went on separated journey of their life . They have a magic chemistry .!
This couple Tessa and Scott are amazing everytime they dance they did it beautifully and elegantly mesmerizing! ❤️ them both!
Gold-Silver-Gold. Nothing to complain about there! Plus their “Umbrellas of Cherbourg” at the 2008 World Championships was so beautiful there aren’t words to describe the picture of young love they created. I love their skating more than any other pairs I’ve seen, whether in dance or figure skating pairs. Yuzuru Hanyu is the only other skater who’s body, as he flies across the ice, just takes your breath away.
The absolute BEST! As Christopher Dean said "I just think, 'Beautiful'. I just think that their quality, their abilities, their presence… everything about them… they seem to have captured a spirit, and I think indeed they have that connection and people identify with that. Magical!"
They have a nice skating style, but this performance was technically a lot less difficult than Meryl and Charlie's program and the way they presented it. Its no doubt they didn't win the gold medal.
danceskate cheer
can you prove it?
danceskate cheer You have your opinion and I have mine. Simple as that!
Agreed....That's what makes the world go around!
While this program was artistically beautiful, it lacked the technical difficulty needed to win a gold medal. There's no way they could have beaten Meryl and Charlie with this performance. That's why they didn't win the gold.
I just love watching them dance.
LOVE to watch these two skate, so beautiful and grateful
They were THE BEST!!! Beautiful programme!
Finally! I have been waiting such a long time to see this on RUclips :C
In Spain this sport wasn't shown on TV.
They are true Icedancers. artists, and champions. most of all they can touch humam's heart..adore V&M
I'm sorry, I watch this and I don't understand how they are not Olympic champions. the dancing, the quality of each movement, the subtlety, the in-sync-ness with the music, the emotions are all so unmatched. I love this program so much. D/W may have the elements, but V/M will always be the true dancers. And 20 years from now, history will prove that, as the all time greats always withstand the test of time.
Davis & White are the best ice dancers EVER in the U.S. Like Torvill & Dean, they'll be legends in 20 years and we'll be saying Virtue and Moir who? lol!
Jodi J
What the heck is your problem that you have decided to invade this page when you're not even a VM fan? Shouldn't you stay on a DW page? You've made your point, you think they're boring, they suck, blah, blah, blah. We get it, it's ok to leave now you weirdo. And take that other nutjob, starcrap or whatever, with you.
Neejaqueen Wow, you're quite nasty!!! Your "crazies" invaded the DW page like the plague. At least I don't use foul language like some of the Virtue and Moir FAN-ATICS commenting on Meryl and Charlie's page. Last time I checked, freedom of speech still prevailed.
Jodi J I agree with you. Davis and White will be legends in their own right, and history will show that. Meryl and Charlie are world class....and I'm not even American and I believe that.
danceskate cheer Thank you. It's amazing how rude 'some' V/M fans can be.
Tessa and Scott touches my heart really when they performed as if they are two people very much I love I always watched them everyday nobody pairs in skating can do as Tessa and Scott done do beautifully ❤
Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir - самая элегантная пара в современном фигурном катании. Какие бы оценки судьи им ни ставили, они для меня на сегодня лучшие!
They're always sooo beautiful to watch...they're sooo in tuned 💜
Virtue Moir skated this beautifully and are hands down the best ice dancers of their generation. But this was definitely not their best choreographed program. Can't wait to see how they do at the Olympics this February!
Beautiful beautiful beautiful, light & airy like an impressionist painting.
This was a safe program to skate. After watching it several times, it does showcase their skating skills, but they took no risks. It was nice but not much more.
danceskate cheer Agreed. It was not something you'd choose for an Olympic program. Choreography not very difficult. Davis and White had a much more difficult program.
Sooooo beautiful. Thank you for bringing so much beauty onto the ice.
eskimoeason op
Ah... simply breathtaking! I love the ice dancing, and I sure wouldn't want to be a judge.
Joyce Sutherland I glad your weren't asswhipe
The very best, just beautiful.
I sometimes feel like I haven’t fully appreciated their dances just because every time I watch their performances all over again, I still find myself dropping my jaw and wonder if I had the same reaction 😁
Artistically that was the best by far:) EPIC!
That depends on what you consider "artistic". This, to me, was boring.
It depends on what you consider EPIC!!! I don't see Epic in this performance
EPIC FAIL.
Watching this is really inspiring and especially their faces they are so passionate
Как жаль,что они ушли из спорта,я очарована ими! Прекрасная,красивая пара!
So many hateful comments T-T Am I the only one here just to watch people skate pretty?
nope, i love watching all the beautiful dancers. I love when he kisses her hand
no me too
That's so cheesy!!!
What an exquisite performance. They are truly the most talented skaters ever. But davis/White are the most athletic ever. It's comparing apples to oranges. I'm a fan of both teams and I'm glad each team was Olympic champion once.
I agree with your comments. Personally, I am a sports fan, and I enjoy athleticism, which is Davis and White's forte. VM are exquisite, but I want to be entertained. There is something about watching DW that is mesmerizing, a ying and yang-Charlie's strength paired with Meryl's delicacy, but she is a little spitfire underneath! Charlie even has admitted that Meryl is a better skater. They both have their strengths that make for a good pair that pleases the eye and the crowd. Since DW have own gold for the last 2 years, they should be hailed as the best skaters, until another couple takes over and starts winning gold.
Susan Hatfield Agreed 100%..
I think people underestimate the fortitude of both these teams. To come back and stand on the Olympic podium again in any position is a remarkable feat. To trade gold and silver while battling for the top spot for an entire quad is legend. I agree with you too; each was totally deserving of the OGM in their time. For their era, no man lead his partner like Scott Moir; no man lifted his partner like Charlie White - and each was paired perfectly with his ice dance princess. I wish there had been less bitterness surrounding their final competition on the part of some fans, but time has a way of taking care of that too. It was a privilege to watch them all and they continue to have my love and thanks.
nightswimmer99 I love the way you phrased that so eloquently. As much as I love Meryl and Charlie, I do miss Tessa and Scott as well I truly believe both teams elevated ice dancing to a new level. But the judges got it right no matter how bitter some of the VM fans were.
I totally agree. Personally I prefer Tessa and Scott (I absoulutely love them), but both teams are just incredible and I miss both these pairs in this season so much!
Of cores the American team did their best and their skating was wonderful. But Tessa&Scott SHOULD have won gold that day.Or at least the short dance.
This was so bloody elegant.
Perfection and grace at its best! Love, love them!
мне хочется плакать. Великолепные, легкий, грациозные - таких можно пересчитать на пальцах. Как жаль, что они ушли из любительского спорта. Очень скучаю по их выступлениям. Без них танцы на льду смотрятся иначе.
Спасибо, они невероятные фигуристы.
The real talent ...EXCELLENT.....
There were no standing ovations from the Russian crowd after the performances of Virtue/Moir, Davis/White, Yuna, Mao, Carolina.... They only stood and clapped for their own country, and had no manners at all. Hope that any other big events would not be held in Russia, FOREVER!
Virtue/Moir, Davis/White, Yuna, Mao, Carolina boring.
And four years later when the winter olympic was held in korea there are a large group of korean volunteer that support any other country outside korea..they cheer for other country and gave them support and attention. I can say that tessa and scott audience in pyeongchang is so much alive than this one..
At least the Russians don’t send death threats to athletes who beat theirs
I see. Making excuses for the Koreans. Why aren't you doing the same for the Russians? I suppose the same could be said about the Russians who left hateful comments on Carolina's insta account, right? By the way, how did Adelina disrespect Yuna Kim?
Maybe she was feeling nauseous. Maybe she needed to use the restroom. I have followed Adelina on her instagram, and she comes across as a really nice girl, by no means disrespectful. She recently posted a picture of Yuzuru, Shoma, and Javi, congratulating them and expressing how she wished she could congratulate them in person. I'm sure she didn't mean to be rude. We all do accidentally rude things and don't even realize it.
The real dancers, not just ticking the boxes.
+Safran Safran Even these two have to "tick" the boxes.
This was a poor choice for a Olympic year. It was just lackluster in my opinion. I think they were trying to re-create their 2010 success which obviously did not happen. Meryl & Charlie's program was much better all around than Tessa & Scott's hence the result. I hope Tessa & Scott can bring back that spark in the upcoming season. They lost it to Meryl & Charlie somewhere around the beginning of 2013 and never regained it. Good luck to them!!
+erin peacexo when will dw fans get over their sick obsession with vm and stop polluting their videos on yt? Seriously you sound like a broken record. If you don't like them stop wasting your time on their videos then.
I am entitled to my own opinion, and whether or not you agree I couldn't care less. Let us clarify your rude comment. I don't have a "sick obsession with vm" or ANYONE else for that matter. Last time I checked this venue was for posting respectful comments on whatever topic. Here we have figure skating. One of us is being respectful and its not YOU!! How dare you say I'm polluting VM videos on you tube. I voice an opinion that a lot of people share. V/M's FD was a real snooze. Everything about it was bad from the music to the choreography. And by the way before you go and blame Marina Zoeuva, I read it was THEIR choice of music. I'll reiterate - poor choice of music.
You want to see some stinking pollution, go to D/W's videos and see the lovely comments that were left by mostly V/M fans and some Papadakis /Cizeron fans which by the way had awful things to say about Virtue & Moir as well. Go stalk them and leave me alone!!!!!!!
I've been reading a lot of posts from V/M and D/W videos. They are both degrading, but I think V/M's fan base is just a little worse. The Sochi Olympics are long gone. Time to look to 2018. D/W were better and deserved to win. But if V/M want a chance a gold in 2018, they need up their level of performance. I wish them luck because they are very talented.
Thank you!
They totally deserved gold... Simply flawless...
Well although they have chemistry m&d was a level of difficulty and the lifts were higher
May Ramon false. both teams got all level fours in lifts.
Okay???? M and D still won gold due to level of difficulty
May Ramon no they didn't. do you know how to read protocols? they won because they were over scored in GOE and PCS,
May Ramon V/M fans always say that D/W don't have chemistry. They do but it's subtle. Scott's hand-kissing is not chemistry, it's cheesy.
To be honest it is impossible to compare T/S and M/C. they were both amazing,smooth,perfect. Both deserved gold.
Dodo
love them tooooooooo much ....theyre so soft and fuwa fuwa, so different than many other skaters who are so hard and fierce to the ice.... its as if they dont want any medal but to just skate..... it almost feels like skating on clouds when i watch them....
I think they wanted to win the gold, but unfortunately for them, Meryl and Charlie had the better program and skate. Nothing wrong with silver..
Stunning and divine performance!! Surpassing skaters!! Second to none!!
Well, second to only one.
I might be an alien, but it's one of my favorite shows. I particularly like its softness and its romanticism. Technically it's one of their most demanding and difficult programs. The lifts of great difficulty follow one another and are linked as if by magic. The quality and precision of their skating is astounding.
It’s ridiculous how great they are! 👏🏼
They are the Gold Medalists.Incredible grace, speed, twizzles, lifts, they are the best in the world.
They are the silver medalists. Meryl and Charlie are the gold medalists!!
Virtue and Moir's Olympic Free Dance: A Haiku
AUTISTIC ZOMBIES
Blund'ring around and acting
All kinds of cheesy.
How was that not a standing ovation? They are legitimately amazing. And I get Davis and White were great too this quad but Virtue and Moir are the best ice dancers ever. Period
Marina Anissina & Gwendal Peizerat where very impressive at their time also.
In the future there will be another better ice dance couple than Tessa and Scott.
@@cathyzhang7146
Always promoting the French, on each of VM's videos... As you know Tessa and Scott are the best of all time, so you hope to reach a large audience!
I really like Anissina and Gwendal, they were innovative and impressive in their lifts, they had a great career, they don't need your promotion.
No other couple, however, has the emotional and artistic stature of the Canadians. It's the kind of genius that can only germinate once in a century, and that can't be erased from history. Many couples were or are remarkable but very few will mark history.
I 'm a diehard Torvill and Dean fan but these two are something special!!!
Красивая пара , не насмотреться на их выступление..
❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍💗💗💗💘
I think my favourite part about the comments is when someone comments something like "I didn't find this boring" or "they are amazing" and people feel the need to comment things about D/W. For the "I didn't find this boring" one, people commented that it didn't match D/W program and while that may be true, they weren't saying that it was better, they were saying they didn't find it boring. Nothing to do with D/W program at all. For the "they are amazing" one, I saw people commenting about the difficulty and how they couldn't have beaten D/W with it. And again, while that may be true, all they were doing was complimenting their favourites, not talking about D/W or how they should have won. So why do people feel the need to bring them up? Like... they weren't bad mouthing D/W. You don't need to defend them. All they were doing is commenting on V/M and how much they love them and their program. If someone is bad mouthing D/W, for sure, go ahead and defend them but do not create unnecessary drama because someone's favourite isn't the same as yours.
They are the best. I love their relationship.
oh that soaring lift at the end with her in the arabesque pose - so much power, romantic graciousness and sense of freedom
I have always thought that V/M created more innovative and beautiful dances than D/W. I really believe that are the successors to Torvill and Dean.....listen to the commentator at the end....."the best in the field"....
All in personal taste I think,
That was beautiful!
Ok, I just watched this performance and then immediately afterwards I watched Meryl Davis and Charlie Whites performance. This time, it was a no brainer. Meryl & Charlie were absolutely phenomenal, hands down the best. I don’t care if you’re French, Canadian, Russian or American. There is no hiding from the truth.....Meryl and Charlie were heads and tails above. Their program left me speechless, breathless, and crying..😭❤️👌💯💯
D/W were scandalously OVERATED in SD.. And you kown that victory dipenda on the overall score....
paolasusanna They got it right👌. Meryl and Charlie were the best.
I've watched both FDs on 50% speed and on that night, it was Davis White by a landslide - couldn't be beaten - they danced an incredible story - DW FD is still rated one of the best ever
Глаз не оторвать!
How could you find this boring? I mean this is art, I bet you can't even skate without holding onto the wall
You don't have to be able to skate to find this boring. lol!
Sorry but this was boring. Well skated but incredibly boring.
I can skate without holding on to the wall lol. I'm not a figure skater, but I know the sport well. Tessa & Scott are very talented, but this program and performance doesn't come near Meryl & Charlie's program or performance. I think they skated it well, but didn't have a chance at gold if Meryl & Charlie skated a clean, well executed program which they did. Silver medal was what they deserved. Its certainly nothing to be ashamed of.
+erin peacexo and here we go again.
Beautifully said. :)
Cudowni, wspaniali, urzekający ❤️❤️❤️
Simply the best.
Remarkable pair and performance I'd say. Beautiful!
in my dreams I'm the one performing this effortlessly. I'm Tessa. I'm Scott
LMAO SAME
@@sarax8474 I feel the same
1:18
Bye imma back after I'm done dying at that kissssssssss
beautiful
So magical..cant't get enough of them...😍😍😍😍💖💖💖💖
the greatest champions of all time
I think they are the best skaters on, I agree totally with th commentator, this might not have been he best music for them.
I forgot how much I miss them ..
The true winners for me!! Post the short dance!!!!
Can someone post the team event short and free?
lilianbedi they were soar losers like most Canadians they looked annoyed when they stood on second spot befitting for Canadians
Deserved gold. Absolutely flawless execution that elevated the program's potential. They are better skaters than DW (the most overscored ice dancers of all time) by default, anyway.
...who won nearly every competition for 2 years.
+Jodi J
why are you here jus
to hate on Tessa and Scott? BOTH teams are far beyond all of the other teams
Lindsay A. No criticism on asteogawl for hating on another couple? Saying D/W are "the most overscored ice dancers of all time" compels me to comment on such an inflammatory statement.
+Jodi J Haha yeah, that's understandable but it's not just this comment. Besides your comment didn't prove anything.
Absolutely no way Virtue & Moir deserved gold in Sochi with this dull and lackluster performance and program. I think D/W were actually under scored with the way they skated. If you want to see over scored programs, take a look at Virtue & Moir's inflated scores THIS season. Totally ridiculous numbers due to the Canadian lobby pushing for them.
Tessa and Scott have such a wonderful ease and grace on ice that is unmatched. Meryl and Davis may have won the numbers game, but to me, T/S's skating has an emotional impact unlike any of the other pairs.
"Meryl and Davis"? Are you serious? lol!
Tessa and Scott bore me to tears. It's all about the kind of skating you prefer. They're both great teams in their own way. To say Meryl and Charlie "won the numbers game" is ridiculous.
Tessa and Scott had a nice program. They do have good skating skills. I will agree to that. However, their free dance was inferior to Meryl and Charlie's - technically much more difficult, complex choreography and speed was unmatched. They were on par artistically but that's about it...Sorry, but Tessa and Scott did not deserve the gold medal. Meryl and Charlie beat them hands down!!
starsmoon0216
Absolutely. I think these commentators are missing the old days when every couple circled the rink to the same music, the medals were decided and then they held the free dance portion... :)
nightswimmer99 I liked the required dances better and then the free dance.
James Cox I do too. Much better format that doesn't put us all to sleep! :)
I already miss them. :(
I know they are real champion
Great ice dancers... The best in their business...Amazing skate to (probably?) finish their competitive career.
سمفونية العشق الخالد واااااااااو ثنائي مبدع
they are amazing!!!!
Such smooth grace.
D/W came up when V/M was struggling with tessa's injury. The judges made them another level (according to the scores), and even after V/M came back on their best, D/W's scores were way too high to beat. Even though V/M have much better skating skills (which is MOST important in icedance), they've just been downscored. The commenter also mentions that they are the 'BEST' in the field, the 'BETTER' skaters (no object).
Since they were sometimes inconsistent and D/W aren't, there could have been some competitions that D/W beat V/M. But still, like this competition, V/M should have deserved their golds at least when they were flawless.
Still a beautiful program to me. In many ways I enjoy this more than Moulin Rouge even though Moulin Rouge was
Magical.
sunshine83683 magically hahaha second
So, gold/silver silver/gold at olympics; gold/silver/gold/silver, silver/gold/silver/gold at world: even scores for the most amazing dance pairs in the actual world. My greatest compliments to them both.
I love it, beautiful performance.
Хочется в конце танца закричать браво. Ах, Тесса, ты чудо, одновременно легкая, как пёрышко, и в то же время очень сильная, так стоять в воздухе с абсолютно ровным станом в поддержке, сколько силы нужно иметь, чтобы так держаться, и все ее подпрыжки и прыжки в поддержке, легкие и сильные одновременно. Чувствуется, дивчина дай боже , какая сильная, чувствуется принадлежность к сильной и красивой славянской национальности. Великая танцорша, великая Тесса!!! браво! И партнер подходит , как никто к ней!
they should have won
Virtue/Moir should have won the short dance I think, but for free dance, well... go either way.. Both teams are stunning！
The elegance, its like watching princess movie
this is so awesome my children love their performances
I am American. I love these two they are amazing. But I have to be honest, I don’t know what it was, but I just didn’t feel that magic during this performance. But OMG 2018 WAS LIFE!!!! NOTHING will ever compare to that performance! EVER!!
This was flat and bland with zero connection between them, just polite smiles on their faces the entire time. They stayed in traditional dance holds for so much of the time it felt very static. Regardless of how anyone feels about V&M, I can't imagine how anyone could think that this subdued performance should have won gold over the much more dynamic FD from Davis & White. Ironically, V&M lost the FD in Peyongchang, too even though they won overall.
@@L1623VP
you have certainly accomplished great things, remarkable things ... you must have a great technical and artistic knowledge and in addition you have incredible qualities and phenomenal talent ... you must be a recognized and adored athlete just like Tessa and Scott actually .... or are you just giving your opinion?
@@rosanishina5097 Your childish response to say, "Are you an adored, professional athlete?" isn't an argument. A person doesn't have to be an opera singer to know when someone is singing off-key. You don't have to be an Academy Award winning actor to notice someone can't act. This performance by V&M was wooden, at best. That's a fact.
@@L1623VP
Your opinions are not facts. Yes it takes expert knowledge to judge the quality of an ice dance program and in addition you have to be there to see it (the camera only shows an angle). You express your taste, just a personal opinion among thousands who say exactly the opposite. You chose to ignore the true meaning of my first post, so reread it with humility and maybe you will understand something!
@@rosanishina5097 You want facts? Okay, I'll give you some facts about V&M that have nothing to do with opinions or what "style" someone prefers, but viewing the objective competitive record.
It's interesting that after Peyongchang, the media took to calling V&M the "most decorated" ice dance team of all time and not "the greatest" of all time. That's because V&M skated for 11 seasons, far longer than most dance teams stick it out. So, of course if you skate longer you're going to win additional medals, but do more medals make you "the greatest"? Equally, when you compare V&M 's accomplishments to those of other dance teams apples to apples, it becomes clear that they've been surpassed in other ways regardless of their second Olympic gold medal.
Russia's Grishuk & Platov also won two Olympic ice dance gold medals 20 years before V&M in '94 and '98. V&M never successfully defended a World Championship, winning three times in '10, '12, and '17. G&P won four consecutive World Championships from '94 through '97. V&M have only one GPF title to their credit, while G&P have two. In their eleven-year career, V&M were undefeated in only one season; G&P accomplished it twice.
Although Davis & White retired after defeating V&M at the 2014 Olympics, they have more gold medal victories over V&M during their competitive years together: D&W (9) vs. V&M (5). If we remove Four Continents from the tally because it's not a full international competition, gold medal victories over each other = D&W (7) V&M (3). Total golds from all international competitions during their years together = D&W (22) V&M (14). Total golds without Four Continents = D&W (19) V&M (11). During their years of competing against V&M, D&W had three undefeated seasons; V&M had none. D&W also have five consecutive GPF championship wins, a feat no other skater has achieved. V&M have one, earned after D&W retired. It's clear that during their competitive years together that D&W were by far the more winning team.
So it's interesting when we compare V&M's record against other dance teams. Doing so it becomes clear why they're easily not "the greatest" dance team of all time and why the media didn't crown them as such. Fans may think so, and that's fine, but the competitive record tells a different story.
I love this performance❤️❤️