SingXer SA-1_(Z Reviews)_ Class-AA⭐️AAAAAAA⭐️AAH MA GOD THIS AMP IS AMAZING!
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The MiniDSP, Starlights, GL2000s, and now this and it is JUST March? Man, 2021 is shaping up to be one hell of an audio year lol.
Same! I went fome a DT990 250ohm to the GL2000 just because i happened to discover zeos. I definitely skipped way too many steps lol
@@treesin2199 Thats what I call progress lol. We are in for some crazy audio stuff this year!
Don't buy into his hype
I was hoping you'd grab the DT 880 600ohm for this. With the theory going around that the 880's need high output impedence, the hi-z setting could be interesting to test.
For those wondering at which point it turns into Class AB instead of Class A:
More details, from Singxer's Taobao：
SA-1's Class A model:
Balanced 16 ohm load: below 500mw;
Balanced 32 ohm load: below 1000mw;
Balanced load of 68 ohms: below 3000mw;
Balance the load above 68 ohms: almost all power is Class A;
Got one from Apos 2 weeks ago along with the Topping D70s. The headphone section like you said sounded really great. What surprised me was the pre out, it makes my Linn 2250 amp sang like an angle. Thanks again !!!
The one person that can say "as someone who owns *all* the headphones" and not be exaggerating.
Lmao
I've had the SA-1 for a few weeks along with the SDA-6 Pro DAC and Beyer T1.3 headphones with balanced XLR headphone cable, very musical and amazing soundstage depth.
As soon as I saw the wallpaper -I reached for tissues- I thanked god I'm poor so I can't even think about it
L🤫L
I love this guy!! I recently purchased SingXer SA-1 couple weeks ago - friggginnnggg awesome. Thanks bro, love your show.
To calm things down a bit - Z recommended the A50s and likened the performance to the A90 but with a tad less power (if you have easy to drive headphones, mo matter), so you’re looking at A90-style performance (and measurements) at only $200 instead of $500 or $600. You can go broke buying the latest hyped unit and then selling it at a loss because another shiny object is waved in front of you, and if you do that multiple times you’re really in the hole (or have a bunch of duplicate equipment hanging around gathering dust).
Mine is on the way ... can’t wait!
Same! Hoping a good pair with HD800S.
Just arrived, LOVE this amp!!
Would be great if you could talk about how this works with speakers. Many of us use a headphone amp as pre amp with good speakers, and 90% is used with speakers, not with headphones.
does xlr outputs for speakers change level when gain is switched or it is an independant gain level?
Must be amazing since it makes your hair stand on end! (I keep watching the stray hair at the bottom of the screen. 😂)
Am currently using this with 2 pairs of XLR cables so I can switch from my power amp/speakers to headphones from my desk. I set the preamp at a certain higher level and control the volume from the Singxer. Balanced headphone cables do seem to make a discernible difference in my case. Haven’t bothered messing with the inside jumpers. Some people have recommended swapping out the knob for a bigger knurled one found on Amazon, which I did but not sure if I like it better - makes you have to turn it more to get to your desired volume which was not necessary IMO. I only have one set of headphones (Amandas) so I leave the z switch at low and will never touch it again. The unit sounds very good, very quiet, more clarity than my Topping A50s but don’t have “Wow” moments every time I use it.
Am I the only one who instantly thinks Porche, when someone says Singer?😁
And YES, the camera 'aight!
Supposedly, when you open the casing lid, it still has jumpers for switching.
I'm not sure if you have rebuilt the board so that the jumpers are down and so can switch or whether the function was integrated in addition.Would interest me now.
Would be very nice @Zeo if you would still test the Singxer Sda 2C.
And for those who do not know Singxer, it is an independent company with the Topping Smsl and Co chain have nothing to do.
They are like Matrix Audio or Questyle from the philosophy.Other Question what for Dac are be used by this Amp?
Just fyi the Rupert Neve Fiedlice Headphone amplifier is the $500 RNHP in a fancy enclosure ;) which is also the same headphone amplifier in the HUGE dac.
The meanwell power "transformers" in the Singxer are DC switching converters for the positive and negative power rails, as good as a linear transformer really.
I ordered this babe today..... thank u for the review.
So Mr Z, does this cream the Aune x7s class A headphone amp?
Looks Like a great Amp. Im watching for a new amp/dac Upgrade for my HD6xx and Audeze LCD2 Classic. Im using the old o2+odac.
-> should i better watch for a linear amp with these Headphones or is a Fun amp Like the singxer great with them? Because it could be too much laidback and warmness
Thank you for the excellent review as always Zeos! I have the Loxjie D50 DAC and with your review, i have decided and ordered the Singxer SA-1. Just found out that the parcel got lost in the transit ( i want to scream!!), so it will be quite some time to receive the replacement. I cant wait, so i want to get a amp so i can atleast start listening to it right away. What other amplifier do you think it will match great with the Loxjie D50? Thank you
So if anyone's curious, I bought one of these on Sunday. Got an email from Apos today saying that they're already sold out and the next restock will be on the 23rd.
I ordered this amp. An Emotiva ERC4 is what I'm looking at next. DAC with remote, digital in & out, rca & xlr out, plus cd player for $600.
Hi can you help me with some advice, I have an ifi xcan and I’m looking to get some SHURE SE425 in your opinion would these be a good match.
That Rupert Neve Fidelice DAC was the best solid state piece of equipment I heard at CanJam NYC 2020
Just sucks that it's almost $5k... I'd 100% buy it if it was only $1k.
@@FiniteCS I’d purchase this at a cheaper price myself.
Mr Z ... i'm ordering the singxer thru your link. what balanced dac would you recommend?
You weren't kidding, this really pairs well with the Zeus.
Without price consideration, this? Or the Burson Soloist 3x?
BABY YEAH
Really nice SA-1 review! Thank you.
Z do you rec the smsl vmv d1se + singxer sa-1 or the matrix x as far as pure amp/dac combination. Without considering any other features. Just sound.
That please do a review impression was very hilarious very well done
Using the D90se as my DAC, I decided to purchase both the SA-1 and A90 and after lots of comparing, I settled on the SA-1 and I am returning the A90. Both amps sound fantastic but I feel like the SA-1 just adds more atmosphere to the sound for a lack of better terms. Everything just sounded a bit more full and alive. I am using the Focal Clear MG Pro.
My only concern moving forward is the gain as compared to the A90, it is lacking in this department however, I read that using at least a 5v output source which my D90se through XLR achieves, it does make up for the lack of gain.. though the A90 does output 7600mW compared to SA-1 6500mW. Overall though I am pleased with the Singxer as my daily driver. I am also on the fence on trying the LCD-X 2021 with this setup.. never experienced Planars.. very curious about them and I hear great things about the LCD-X.
@First Last which dac are you using?
is there a amplifier that is close to the klipsch amplifer. It's no longer being sold so im looking for something with alot options
Yeah Zeos, review the Asgard 3 dammit! (grin)
Any comment on the use of this to change from headphones to (another) preamp so you can turn off your main system to listen to headphones from say, your desk? I realize you’ll need cables running from your preamp to this and back to your system’s amp, but I can see all that extra signal path as possibly being detrimental. I have one of these coming, so I will be trying it for myself using balanced cables. Anyone else have a similar setup (not talking about using active speakers)?
Comparison with the Honey H1 in sound quality?
Thank you so much,
Does the S-A1 work well as a balanced preamp with volume control for active loudspeakers?
Yes it does!
hey zeos i need a recommendation!! i watch all your reviews and all they do is make me want to buy everything lol,i need a solid recommendation.Im currently using Monolith M1060's (with your mod of removing those foam things,blew me away thanks for that!!) and powering that is the Topping DX3 Pro,not impressed with that thing,and seems i have to use high gain or else it seems underpowered,so i would like a recommendation for a headphone amp and a dac,they dont need to be 1 unit,separates are great,im also using a SMSL 160wx2 digital amp for my Jamo S 803's that i got because of your review and they blew me away!! love those things!!,perfect for my desktop pc speakers!! lol if you know of a better amp for the speakers that would be great also! of course im mortal so prices cant go to extreme.Anyways i love your channel im a bit addicted now lol.
Zeos! How the hell do you control EQ?! I got a Topping Dx7 and it sounds like crap compared to my previous Asus Essence XTS II sound card because the drivers include a graphic eq. I need solutions! Ive tried equalizerAPO and it doesnt work like the asus eq. Sounds like crap.
Probably because you forgot to first reduce the gain by the same amount you are going to up freqs in het equalizer, using the preamp module. If you don't add a preamp-module before the eq-module it's going to sound really terrible, constantly varying total volume to prevent clipping.
Thank YOU
How's this comparing to Pro iCan? sound wise and power wise?
I was considering to buy SMSL SP200 for kph30i... now there is this singxer... is that big the difference???
I have been looking for the right amp for years now... Ordered this today and believe my wait will have been worth it!
How is it?
I currently have a Jotunheim 2 that replaced my A90. How would the Jot2 and the SA-1 compare? I am tempted by this!
people say SA-1 is better
What the hell Zeo's, I just bought the Topping A90... now you're doing this to me...
So did I
Same bough A90 then was forced to buy this one.. ended up returned A90.. SA-1 just feels richer in sound.
@@elhijueputa8423 Returned the A90 also, got the SA-1 two weeks ago.
First Darkness now Megumin...Z is trying to kill our wallets
When Aqua
After our wallets see Eris
@@layfron1990 She stuffs her wallet
this is better than a90 and jot2, this is the new hype, new flavour of the month!!
Its not :)
Whats the ruming sound at 21 min
Did you hock it up to SMLS400
YEAH BABY.
I wonder if it will push your Dt 880s that sound amazing when they have a ton of power with? I remember you really didn't like them unless you use that one amp with a jumper taken out would be a cool test. As a 789 thx sph9500 guy from watching you for many years 😁
I guess you need dac with 5Vrms by XLR for that otherwise SE out is kinda weak, 600 Ohm 880 are not balanced I believe
I purchased the Singxer because of this video. My search is over.
Did it arrive? If so, what do you think about it ?
Hey, i know that it doesn't have anything to do with the video ,but i can't find the shp 9500 in stock in Canada ( or not overpriced ) so do you have a other recomendation of open headphones with pretty much the same quality ( and pretty good for gaming if possible ) ?
Are you saying there's no difference between balanced and unbalanced inputs or outputs or both? Thanks
I didn't compare outputs. The inputs I am saying have the same volume level which is convenient.
@@ZReviews how's that possible?
@@tenveri I would assume that they reduce output voltage of the balance out to match unbalanced. Does seem to defeat some of the advantage of balanced though.
So i bought the GL2000, now i'm buying this, but what dac should i have in my purchase? please help me Z!
rupert neve fidelice dac
Better than the Flux FA-10 or Cayin IHA-6 ????
This. I am curious.
I am also curious about this as well. I have a feeing that it won’t be better than FA-10 even in terms of sound quality, power FA-10 wins anyway.
Hey,
I got the Amp here and i'm not sure, If i got a doa unit. I couldn't really exact See your Volume knob position during the review. But i tested the Arya V1 f.e. vi XLR on Low Gain AMD i have to max the Volume Knob to have a moderate loudness. On High Gain it is acceptable loud when maxed oud.
Any idea? Protection mode without mod? A defective unit?
Thank you
Have you checked the volume of your source?
And dac plays a part, with E50 my volume was almost maxed with dianas but with RME it is in the half-way position.
depend on recording also, older ones are recorded with lower volume in that case my Arya V2 almost max SA-1 (same goes with DAC if connected via XLR and how many volts it push)
Listen to the Burson Soloist 3x performance next? Another class A with more power
Nice so you’ll be yard sailing the flux stuff now?
Looks quite interesting!! Awesome review
What is this sorcery that allows a power switch on the front? Asking for Schiit
The only issue is stupid placement of the gain switches. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh awayeth.
Dat audio wall. Hifiya !
Zeos should really try out the Singxer SU-6 USB interface. It will literally be a night and day difference to your setup.
A DDC that make difference? Z barely notice any difference in DACs, DDC? Eeeeehhh
Would this be a good pair with my Hd820s?
A Chinese amp that doesn't use crappy ZWEE xlr connectors, and a shitty volume potentiometer? Sign me up!
Go look at the POT on internal pictures. It is huge.
sounds weird to say but, the Balanced XLR headphone plug, has a great feel when inserting the plug. A nice click. and the feet are such, that the amp doesnt need to be held down to insert the XLR on the front.
Minor things, but add up to a great fit and finish, on top of great sound.
Are there any good amps around $250-$300 as need something with good low impedance for IEMs
D30 pro or l30
Has anyone tried this amp with Aeons? I'm having distortion problems with one of my amps and noise problems with another, so I just want something that will drive it, no problem.
what's the cheapest setup for the singxer ? (DAC / Preamp...) for a hd600 for example, and how much does it pairs with it ^^ thank you
also how would it compare to a black label or mojo (w/600)
If your looking for a Balanced DAC you could get a Soncoz LA-QXD1 or an SMSL SU8 or a Drop x Grace Design SDAC Balanced. The SMSL being the most expensive, the SDAC Balanced being the least. The Soncoz LA-QXD1 measures the best of all 3.
@@evoasus2286 thank you , actually i'm not interested in balanced for now, just wanna run to full potential the 600, do you think setting up a singxer is worth over just owning a micro black label ? (I'm thinking about getting a valhalla too but i don't really Know a lot about solid state and tubes difference)
@@SarusukeTakatsuki tube amplifiers work great with dynamic driver headphones. The black label is portable I believe, which is nice, but I don't know if HD600s are the best to wear outside the home. If you want a solid listening experience in one package, then I would go for the black label. Although, if you think you will be buying DACs/other AMPS in the future I would go with either the Singxer or another desktop style tube amp. I think the black label has enough power and sounds great from what I hear. The choice comes down to whether you will be upgrading in the future.
Will my DX7 Pro be a good enough DAC for this?
No
Yes
Zeos, what’s the mod you have done to the Koss headphones?
Just the Grado 1000 pads replacing the stock. Thats about it for now.
all he did was add pads he did a video on it
@@ZReviews ahh no shit I just ordered them, I didn’t even know you made a video on it
Does the quarter inch output 6 watts@32 ohms the same as the 4.4?
No, 6 watts is it's balenced output. Probably about half that at quarter inch.
I'm staring at the speaker wall all the time and then i get the idea that you could do a blind speaker guessing game with princess pasta where she sets up and speaker and you have to guess what it is lol
I would watch this
You should used the DT 880.
I agree the Singxer SA-1 is amazing for the price. With most headphones, you will use low gain and low Z. The SA-1 is not exactly their only amp because the Singxer SDA-2 is a combination DAC/amp, that is also very good for the price, but not in the same league as the SA-1. I bought both on Drop.
I figured HD800S need high gain. I'm confortable with 12 o-clock volume position. On quiet songs I can crank it up to a max. Low/Hi-z does nothing noticeable for the 800S :|
How much did you pay for the SA-1 on Drop? Right now they're just taking orders.
@@homerjones3291 In January, I paid $539 + tax on Drop.
Does the S-A1 work well as a balanced preamp with volume control for active loudspeakers?
@@dave64k Yes, I used it with my KEF LS50 powered speakers.
Megumin wallpaper.... probably is good.
Megumin is best girl, this must be best amp.
@@SamuraiGuyOh man for sure, megumin have THE POWER and sweetness, like this amp.
Only probably?
what would be a good dac to pair with this?
As Z said himself - get yourself any good enough DAC and that's it. Worry about amps and their flavours.
What cable do you have hooked up to the Gold's?
I believe it is is Hart Audio Cable.
@@evoasus2286 thanks my dude! Looks correct
BAH GAWD!!!!!
Hi Z so i pulled the trigger and get this amp and i saying... it is AMAZING really. I do have only Sennheiser 800s so i was affraid of what they say but they are saying magic and fat things to me. So much better than Xduoo TA-10 I Am happy happppyyyyyyyy
Hello! I bought a Sennheiser HD 800 S. They haven't reached me yet. Do you recommend this amp or the Topping A90? and which DAC?
@@javi1981 Go with Singxer. A90 won't be a good pairing with 800S.
Having the gain switches on the bottom of the amp is stupid.
Maybe there's some engineering logic there, but to an uninformed pleb like myself it seems like a monumentally dumb way of doing things.
I'm kinda tempted to get this amp, but the fact that I use a mixture of easy to drive and insanely power hungry headphones means that I'd really like my gain switches accessible.
Chewbacca guest stars in this WHOLE video.. as a single hair on the lens. To complain click here..
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Does the pre/hp switch actually turn off the hp?
yes
anyone...has he reviewed the xtz edge amp? not finding it in his playlist if he did...
I don't think he has. I was looking at that AMP to see if they could power Magnepans, but I did not see a review by Z.
Ahhahaha! Bought yesterday before this dropped. Cause its gonna be another 789 situation. Watch.
Yeah, I have a feeling that this might get overhyped just like the THX789.
People will buy it out. People will pay inflated price. People will get an amp that they paid too much for what they got.
I thought the Topping A90 was the gold medalist
@@ramencurry6672 A90 for Linear, This for Fun Creme'
Damn it Zeos! I was going to buy one but now they're probably out of stock! Was trying to sell a pair of headphones before I bought one.
Edit: Managed to get one before Apos ran out, if they do, as of editing this.
Take a look to Shenzenaudio
@@Kulpa-Systems thank you for the suggestion. I got one off of Apos.
You have to remember this video was made 3months ago.
@@voin3858 so you mean he filmed it 3 months ago? That's is a big gap between when normal subscribers see it vs his patreon/subscribestar viewers.
@@evoasus2286 yup
Is the single ended output power the same as the balanced?
The single-ended power output will not be the same as the balanced output.
@@evoasus2286 I can’t find the single ended output power specs.
wju does it need to be another boutique brand.... will this even exist in my local market?
Singxer is a "big" Chinese brand though
Singxer, Topping, GD Audio, Denafrips, SMSL, Gustard . . etc etc. All from China. Why isn't India producing this stuff ?
What happened to the Flux Labs? Those are class A. WERE THEY NOT FUN?
They were GOOD But it was almost like they were trying to be linear and Class A. The Rebel was wild and this is more wild.
@@ZReviews Hey Zeos, could you confirm if you have the classical FluxLab amp or the Professional version? Because they are built differently and the pcb red color in one of your videos seem red (which would indicate the less musical/wild professional version).
What do I get Zeos?! SMSL SP400 or this Singxer?!
Can these power all the headphones with headroom to spare?
@@S.B__ this amp can power every headphone that i threw at it. Also, the sp400 is a linear and clean amp but i dont know how and why, the sp400 cannot power my he6se v2 properly like SA-1 which is a warm leaning amplifier. So i suggest you just buy the topping A90 if you want a clean and linear amp BUT can drive hard to drive headphone like he6se v2, except you want a warm leaning amplifier that still have the power to properly drive headphone like he6se v2 buy the SA-1
Everything is amazing now! Oh My God! AMAZING! This must be out of this world! HYPE!
It is. Straight up. I bet my career on it every time I say so. Because all I have is a reputation to uphold of being honest and I've tried real hard not to let anyone down.
Zeos was right about the GL2000, the hype was well deserved. I lost all respect for the opinion of DMS after the hit job he did on those headphones. So frankly I value the opinion of Zeos far more then some other reviewers on RUclips.
Birdie Num Nums ~ resulted in a Peter Sellers Party flashback.
Is this AMP that much better than the HO200?
How is the unbalanced output on this please? I read that the majority of balanced AMP have a less good unbalanced output in comparison to a normal AMP. But i'm very attracted to this one.
As you say. Not as good unbalanced output.
It honestly sounds the same to me. Just less loud, obviously.
@@bcepni00 it probably depends on the headphones you use too , which one do you have
@@SarusukeTakatsuki HD 660s
Just recently bought sennheiser hd660s, looking at dacs and amps what should i look at with a budget of 400-500 dollars
My current setup: SMSL SU-8 + 789. Should be around 500 bucks. But I pre-ordered Singxer and gonna swap out the 789 - linear is not my jam.
@@gvidas7333 the 789 is too clinical tbh i hated mine
@@RathOX yet it was very powerful (can drive any headphones). Singxer is less powerful but does have that 'class A fun' vibe.
@@gvidas7333 power doesnt mean everything tbh just like measurements. Some of the best amps arent based on measurements. Personally fun amps are much better than clinical & cold amps, i find them fatiguing
Did you buy an amp yet for 660s? If not try considering Topping DX7 pro dac amp combo. Excellent synergy with 660s out of 4.4 balanced output.
Zeos- "there are schitt dacs that makes things worse..."
Schitt- goes bankrupt
Ah but DT 880 600ohm?
It says output power 380mW @ 600Ω
I dont want it in my house. I dont want it on my desk or near my headphones. I want nothing to with that. It looks good, it probably sounds fantastic but I am NOT getting it. As far as Im concerned it is out of stock until 2028.
I am a rock. I am an island.
AAAAAAA this amp made my Beyer T1.1's MUCH more creamy (+bass but like not fostex bass)
Edit: FUCK. ME. Zeus + SA-1 is endgame for me... until I can afford Th900's/Clear/etc. UGH ty again Z
Have you tried the pad upgrade? Worth watching his video about the Dekoni BeyerD video of his. I bought one based on that video, and it made a huge difference. The choice leather gave an awesome like bass.;))
I have the clears yet still want the Zeus..that’s the beauty of our hobby tho is that we can find things to appreciate across all things audio!
That Megu wallpaper will be used for research purposes, I am part of the science team after all
does he answer emails?