🟥Burson Soloist 3X _(Z Reviews)_ The Cadillac of 💎mplifiers
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Zeos, remember Burson is from Austrailia so everything spins the wrong way down there. They even drive on the wrong side of the road. Might explain why their dials go the wrong way.
I've owned the Burson Soloist 3X Performance for about a month and a half. Long story short it's a beast and it's sound signature is smooth, ridiculously detailed, and highly refined. I paired it with an RME ADI-2 with a pair of Hedd AMT headphones as my daily drivers and I'm transported to a higher dimension. What an amazing audio experience.
how much better is the amp in burson soloist vs rme adi 2 for headphones?
@@Todeon It's significantly better. The RME ADI-2 is an excellent/well above average product that's begging to be paired with a capable AMP.
@@ilusiil I also have the RME, and this Soloist. I agree 100% with you. The Soloist also pairs well with Topping D70S and Schiit Yggdrasil A2.
@@Todeon FWIW, I don't have the Soloist (but will get one soon), but both the full sized headphone out and IEM out on the RME ADI-2 sound very mid-fi, at best, to me. It just isn't very refined (it's kind of rough), revealing and the sound stage is terrible: congested, small, little layering, etc. My Gilmore Lite Mk2, Cayin iHA-6, Woo Audio 6, and even Schiit Asgard 2 all sound better. I thought the RME ADI-2 would be a AIO solution and I could get rid of my amps; not a chance.
@@dHolbach77IMO the RME ADI-2 is an excellent DAC which is unfortunately paired with an average AMP. Yes the soundstage isn't the widest but it's very detailed, layered, with an extremely low noise floor. It also doesn't color the sound and is very neutral (which is exactly what I'm looking for in a DAC), so it's the other components in your set-up (headphones, AMP, etc.) which will ultimately decide the end result of the sound signature you experience.
Additionally; It's AMP is pretty anorexic, especially when paired with mid-high impedance headphones, but once paired with a capable AMP it really does shine.
I’ve owned my soloist after watching the review by passion for sound. It is truly a remarkable piece paired with my focal clear mg
Mine arrives this week..Passion for Sound is a legend
Jim, same here! Its a WONDERFUL match for my HD800S, Arya, and LCD4.
Hey I just got my pair of LCD-X 2021 revision , currently owning JDS atom stack, but was thinking to upgrade and I was looking for the soloist as well, but because i dont have any other amp to test the sound difference I am not sure what kind of difference the burson will make compared to the atom, obviously i would have to upgrade the DAC too, but will do the amp first, haven't looked much into dacs yet..
Hi any update on this?
Did you buy the soloist?
Im in the same boat as you were and im interested in your results @@SamB-rk9qb
Burson Audio - all the way from Down Under. Good stuff, great engineering, great sound - period.
I recently picked up one of these and have it paired with a Denafrips Ares II. This is going to be my endgame for a looooong time. Seriously, all I want to do now is just listen to all the music. Thank you, Burson for this phenomenal little piece of engineering.
This is exactly the pairing I have in mind
@@martijnbos9873 yes.. This Soloist 3x is TOTL. I've had it hooked up to my Topping D70s and Schiit Yggdrasil A2. Great synergy with all my headphones, Arya, HD800S, LCD-4, HE6SE, HD6XX and others. Passion for Sound nailed it in his reviews.
Nice taste - that’s what I’m about to buy very soon - so excited!!
I recently got this amp and it's really as good as he says. It's a major setup from the Singxer. It can even properly power the He-6v2 with about 20 more steps left on the volume knob.
I bought this a few months ago, on rec from Passion for Sound. Correction /modification on ZEOS statement regarding Soloist op-amps.
The "op-amps" are actually discrete class A amplifiers housed in a 'op-amp" enclosure.
Good to know it drives the Hifiman HE6SE. It drives my Arya, using balanced cables, with headroom to spare.
Its a nuanced upgrade from my Topping A90. The differences aren't in your face obvious, BUT, when listening for sound stage cues, Soloist 3x beats it.
My headphones are Arya, HD800S, LCD-XC and LCD-4.
DACs are Topping D70S and Schiit Yggdrasil A2.
Soloist 3x IS my endgame HP amp.
BTW, the remote battery arrived DOA.
I had to go to the big chain corner drugstore to replace it. Removing the battery without damaging the remote wasn't obvious to me. I emailed Burson about the procedure. Got a useful reply the next day. Great customer service!
@@mclement052164 which dac do you tend to use with it? I own the d70s but have also been eyeing the yggy
Just when Burson came into my sightlines, Zeos comes up with this. They're a really underrated brand, and they sell some seriously durable and quality stuff.
BTW, the screen doesn't flash IRL, that is just the GoPro and I meant to say AUSTRALIAN made not American.. Was recorded around the 4th so I was overly patriotic.
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i am so glad I got these a month ago before Z reviewed this.
as well, it's better with the stand. When it's vertical on the stand, the menu toggling becomes intuitive as it becomes left and right... so you turn left to go "up" and turn right to go "down".
I have been through many headphone amps this last year, but stumbled upon “passion for sounds” review of this unit and wanted to try it. Low and behold on headfi a gent bought this and used it for 3 hours, said his current amp was better and listed this for 899……..snagged it and haven’t even thought about buying another amp. Paired with a silver bifrost 2 the combo is silver and visually appealing with the sound to match (this hobby is so subjective), but honestly after trying so many amps this one just sounds excellent and powers anything From IEMs to hifiman he6. Love it and the small footprint since my desk space is the tiny corner of my living room.
same here, wanted to compare reviews and glad that both zeos and pfs love it. just purchased this combo, on it's way! using this stack to compare the focal clear mg vs abyss diana v2 as my endgame 😈
I've got a black Bifrost 2, and my Soloist 3X is on the way. Wondering if I'm going to be able to live with a black Bifrost and a silver Soloist, lol.
Just bought the Burson Composer 3xp after i reviewed the Conductor , The composer is just a pre/dac at 1200 and ohhh my God its nice ! Thomas n stereo already reviewed the Composer but i am waiting until i get a dac that can compete with the composer for review 😃
i knew you would like Burson !
I have 4x sparkos ss3602 op amps and 4x Classic/vivid op amps 😃 I knew you would like the volume knob thanks Zeos
Have been using the Soloist with a Denafrips Venus R2R DAC and a pair of Focal Shape 65 active monitors. Simply magic, can't have enough of this set-up. The Soloist makes everything sound better!
Have a Venus II & want to pair this amp with some Susvaras.
I've had a Burson Conductor for a while. Great amp/ dac.
For the experiment, I paired this with low end DAC such as Zen dac and modious through balanced output. With midfi or high end dac, I don't hear major differences. Of course, it is my initial impression only and I need to spend more time. However, I still think that it is not worth it to buy high end dac because the differences are subtle. Amplifier is absolutely different though.
Yeah, I agree. I've tried the Bifrost 2 and Pegasus, and while I could definitely hear the difference, I couldn't tell you outright that they were better than the Modius, better in some respects, worse in others, so overall just different.
Have had mine coming up to a year now being fed by a Chord Hugo2 with the 2go streaming module.
Took me MONTHS to realise the soloist has a headphone power amp mode so I can control volume straight off the DAC. The icon on the screen changes and the volume is disabled.
What can I say ? This is just bliss , makes my power hungry Aeon2 (closed) sound like theyre having their best life .
The chord is renowned for being resolving, clean and maybe a tad lean , but the Burson is like that auntie that sneaks you meat pies to fatten you up . Just lovely .
It looks a treat on my desk and I'm sure on the quietest track I can hear it whispering "you want those Meze's now don't you"
The build quality is just 🤤🤤🤤
I own the soloist 3XP and it’s the best hp amp I’ve had after going through a myriad of midfi (a90, 789, lyr 3, mlp, rebel amp, flux fa10, phonitor e. I would suggest picking up a pair of sparkos op amps to roll to go along with the vivid. The soloist 3XP can be run in power amp mode to make your 1266/susvara/HE6 sound even better. This thing is also tits as a preamp and works like a champ with my active monitors. I thought the conductor 3XP was fine but the soloist is far better amp stage to pair with a better Dac.
What do you see is different/better than the A90. I own the A90 and my burson arrives this week.. would like your thoughts.
@@nunoferraz5426 rme adi-2 dac is all you'll ever need
@@nunoferraz5426 How did the soloist compare to your a90?
@@CreamyLusciousness it's a clear step up and with amp rolling I.e v6 input, sparkos output stage... its beautiful. I know most won't consider, but an aquarius evo 3 has a massive impact on the chain too.
@@nunoferraz5426 Thanks!
I adore mine. Cannot recommend it enough!
I have the Soloist 3x and ADI-2 DAC. I honestly can't tell the difference between this setup and my S.M.S.L SP200 and a Massdrop balanced DAC using the optical input for both. My source was the same for both. Honestly people, the technology is getting cheaper and better. As much as I wanted to keep the Burson and RME I just can't justify paying $2500 vs Less than $400 for the SMSL and Balanced DAC as long as you are using a decent source signal rather than just your phone. I was using a Denon DNP-800NE network player (using HEOS on my phone for the play list) switching the optical out to both setups. If a 10% increase in musical clarity is important enough for you to spend six times the money, then the Burson/RME is a nice setup but I'm returning mine in favor of extra cash. I am going to experiment with source gear such as the new Bluesound N130 to see if it makes a difference over the Denon.
Yup, lots of bullshit out there. Go to Amir audio science review...he actually does measurements on equipment and says this amp is not great at all.
Soooo, just an idea here but do you think the reason turning.the knob to the right makes the menu go down instead of up is because its an Australian company and the water in toilet bowls swirls the opposite direction compared to here in the US so the knob is backwards too?? lol
How is this one compared to Topping A90D?
Sounds a great amps...and Opamps are the new and modern equivalent of valves and tube rolling...although not that new.
I have their Funk Integrated amp and it's great! Made specifically for desktop use.
Amazing amp! I use mine for my living room sorta near field because I'm not at a desk a lot and it's WAY to good to sit at a desk for me.
How is the headphone output?
I think it's great! I'm not a huge headphone person but it sounds very good and almost too powerful for the headphones I have. (Kph30i and Sivga Phoenix) I only use low gain and about a quarter to half of the volume.
@@SqueamishPuppet what sound signature it gives to the speaker?
@@Max45090 I would say a warm sound. They calm down some bright speakers I have.
I love the volume control and the display. I need a cheaper one with this feature and power. I don't care very much about discrete design i'm not sure if i will be able to hear a difference but volume control looks amazing.
Just bought the Soloist 3X GT. Very powerful amp to drive my susvara
Burson amps are the best for the price. I owned a burson 3 reference . Great build and performance with shit tones of power.
I got the Soloist 3XP directly from Burson(in Australia) about a month or so ago. It's Hot!! Literally. Get the Cool Stand and put it vertically.
It's a really nice sounding HP amp that almost reminds me of a hybrid Tube Amp sometimes. Pricey... but definitely a top notch HP Amp.
I pair the Soloist 3XP with a Schiit Bifrost 2 Dac and it's a great combo. 🤟
just purchased this combo, on it's way! using this stack to compare the focal clear mg vs abyss diana v2 as my endgame 😈
I have a Bifrost 2 and an Arya, and my Soloist 3X will be arriving within a few hours. Quite excited to see how much better it will be than my Jotunheim 2, which I received just a few days ago (I actually ordered it because I wasn't too impressed with the Jotunheim 2).
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Let us know your verdict after comparing them
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou How you liking the sa-1? Curious as I'm deciding between that and the jot 2
@@Someone-ig8ct I never bought the SA-1-just the Jotunheim 2 and Soloist 3XP. Sounds crazy, but after initially feeling the Soloist to sound a _tad_ better than the Jotunheim 2, I felt neither sounded much if at all better than plugging either the Ananda or Arya straight into my MacBook. So as much as I was in love with the build and form factor of both the Jot2 and Soloist 3XP-not to mention the Bifrost 2-I ultimately returned/sold all of them because I couldn't hear any difference.
$1750 with 4 watts single ended. I decided to buy the Asgard 3 for $200 with 5 watts which sounds good to me. That one looks like it would sound really good. I got my first planar magnetics last month. 👍
They cheat as the 4W/8W are into 16ohms. So 2W/4W into 32ohm respectively. Still very powerful.
On the other hand you should try power amp mode (pressing menu button for 12 seconds). This will bypass the amps volume stage leading to a more powerful/cleaner/dynamic sound. Make sure, you lower the volume on your DAC first. (You need a DAC with volume control for this mode.)
BTW Burson is from Australia, not USA.
it was measured way more than that. someone on head-fi measured the non-balanced output at 15W per channel at 30 ohms. NON-BALANCED. and it it is very obvious when you hear it that it's very powerful. Burson severly understated their numbers... my guess is they refuse to get into the numbers war with chi-fi gears.
@@cchkuan Possibly.
I own one, so I can hear it is very powerful.
I had an old Burson headamp/dac from 2011. I just bought a Composer 3x dac/pre and I’m shopping for a headphone amp. I wonder if I’ll get all the magic from the Soloist already and can just buy one of those “sterile” transparent amps.
finally good shit again in this channel, love you zeos.
The little opamps are actually just cheapos for debugging if you’re rolling op amps
Sparkos makes great op amps the these.
Which pairing do you like the most? I'm Planning to buy a DCA Ether 2 for this amp
Burson Playmate 2? How does it compare?
I have the Burson Conductor 3X reference and it’s a fuking monster! It replaced 3 amps and 2 dacs
Got a Burson 4wpc Conductor amp\dac \preamp from 2013 still sounds great
You can have a clip on modmic with a good headphone for the splitter signal
But what about how it sounds? Separation, timbre, slam, Soundstage, detail?
Did you try the power amp mode?
FYI Burson isn't american its Australian from the land of kangaroos themselves ❤️
I have the Burson's V6 Vivid Dual x 2, V6 Single x 2 in my SB ZXR soundcard. I know this isn't exactly the place to post that, but it did change the way the sound came out of the card. it felt pretty damn nice :) from the default. I wish I was wealthy enough to just buy whatever whenever =[
Burson Composer 3X DAC coming soon?
That's one sexy circuit board.
Hi Zeos, Is it possible to drive klipsch Cornwall iv (8ohms /102 db/w) speakers with soloist 3x balanced headphone out (8w/16 ohms). If we have the necessary cables.
Well, since I'm working from home, I'm really struggling with switching between my Hifi gear and my work headset
Burson Playmate 2 | Headphone Amp, DAC, and Preamp -- no mentioned 448 us only ....
Where can I watch your first review of the burson? Since you gave the soloist a second listen, you should give the gsx mini another shot as well without trying to compare it to another amp. You didnt compare the burson with the singxer sa1…
You told me I should own the Zueses. I want to see your review of the Zueses before I buy them. Yes, I bought the $35 headphones and then spent $300 to drive them IFI DAC and Schiit amp. I was not going to spend $350 to get these headphones, but I will spend $125, but I want to hear your review to figure out if these are better than my OPPO pm3 or the cheap koss (nighttime in the bedroom) or another reason to have another pair of headphones. I know I owe you a 1-year Patreon subscription and next month you will get it.
if Howard Stern was an audiophile
Controversial opinion: I demo'd it and I did't think it was great and especially on my LCD2f. Trust your own ears folks. I much much preferred the Violectric V200. It's not that the Burson is awful, but depending on your taste in music a different amp can pair with a DAC just that much better. The volume also takes a huge step from 52 to 53 or thereabouts. I'm not sure if the store maybe had some different op-amps in there, but I'm pretty sure they just demo the units stock.
Does it power the 880's effectively?
Id say yes
@@ZReviews Thank you for responding Z, you the MAN!
Had my Burson Playmate with the V6 Vivid opamps for 2 years now and I love it. Just wish the little fucker wouldn't get this hot. I actually use the mic in as well (600 ohm MMX 300).
I don't think it's 'murican, but prolly 400 people will have said that by now. Pretty cool, though. I have some of those vivid opamps and a couple of whatever the orange ones are. The project I bought them for sort of fizzled out, but eventually I'll find a use.
DwE
Zeos, you should do some more genelec speakers review, maybe go bakc to the small wonder speakers and review the genelec 8010s or just review one of the others.
I'm having issues with the pre-outs on mine giving super-loud pops when switching output and turning the device on, even with those special output transformer XLR/RCA adapters they require in the manual. Anyone else?
Are things not allowed to make noise turning on anymore?
Upgraded mine to have sparkos op amps which sounds better
Same! Have you also run yours in power amp mode? I think the vivids give more bass impact and perhaps a bit more sparkle on top for trebles but the sparkos are much more neutral and the detail/resolution is improved.
Burson circuit boards are sexy AF.. I have the Burson Swing and Fun and wish mine has a clear cover. Please do a review on those if you can get your hands on them.
Not only this Burson Amp, but also their Conductor 3x Reference DAC, that I've been using, with V6 vivid dual OP amps and Sparkos 3602 dual Op amps. The sound is beyond amazing _(compared to Lumin T2, Mytek, RME & Naim, tested in my system)_ possibly hitting the $20,000 mark _(though I've not tested that price range in my system, only auditioned it - Dave & Mola Mola elsewhere)_
I don't think I'll ever be changing (DACs) to anything else.
How many sparko amps do you buyto swop out the vivids?
Review burson timekeeper 3i
Wondering if you are still planning on doing the Singxer sa1 dc jumper mod?
0:40 in this heat, yes, 6000/1200=6 😂
im getting this for world of warcraft boys!!!
wheres the diamond?
This, or the Schiit Ragnanok 2?
Darn good question!
But those 2 amplifiers are VERY different from each other. I would think that the RAG is a speaker amp 1st and a HP amp 2nd.
Ragnarok puts out a F!ton of power out for headphones, can drive ANYTHING except electrostatics, and is also a speaker amp. The Burson isn't nearly as powerful as the monster Ragnarok. BUT, its only a HP amp, is a lot smaller, and is true class A, AND can drive Hifiman HE6SE and Arya. IN CLASS A.
So, if your application is HP only, I rec Soloist 3x, which is what I did with ZERO regrets.
Does a tube amp add any value if you're just using it for gaming?
Save ya money and get a nice water bottle instead. Gamers hydrate
Should have mated it to AUNE X8
But... I want to hear footsteps in games like they were made by Beethoven. ;-)
Too much camera shake. Feel like I’ve been on the Demon Drop at Cedar Point 😂😂😂
So glad you gave a shout out to M0N as he’s the fucking man! This dude is the single best poster and mod on any audio forum I’ve been to. He’s literally answered 100 of my questions and been right every time. His TOTL shootout thread is tits. Apologies for the many offensive comment s he’s had to block of my in the humor thread but god those guys are either nerds or Christians in there. Yes I’m the guy with the dark morbid humor posts.
My god man! is it good or bad? Thats it!
All this guy does is ramble. If you're looking for a clear, cohesive and detailed review go elsewhere lol
"Burson Soloist 3X _(Z Reviews)_ The Ford GT of Amplifiers" - FTFY
Yeah why don’t you do a op amps review?
But Cadillac’s are terrible, are you saying it’s a Terrible amp, now I gotta watch the video 😢
The saying is a little dated, but I will feel old when you say this is the cadillac of... and people don't get it.
But can it run Crysis / DT880 600Ω?
(spoiler: Yes, they can)
Thats retail man, product has to keep getting better so everyone can keep making a living. Right, lol
That red circuit board is yummy
hmmm I was duped there was no jem stone haha
fff
Ok you have another headphone amp... why did we not see it in an unboxing ? always hiding stuff.
You forgot the diamond.
Another one
This guy does NOT know what he's talking about as far as the opamps. The discrete opamps are an integral part of the amplifier stages. If he changed out the opamps to IC types he'd get a slightly different (and poorer) SQ presentation, having a less realistic timbre, less stage width/depth, and less textures. Those Vivids are super transparent and textured.
A Cadillac? no way Zeos....you must try a McIntosh.
Good stuff but please don't leave your water bottle open on the edge of the desk if you want me to concentrate on the review.
“Winner 83294 !”
so 1200 dollars, 1 gemstone i guess...
You can get them used for ~850 on headfi if patient
Ebay 600-800
Btw, you say "from an american company" ... they are actually Australian :D
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Third...?...
Le Mans, not Nurburguii ing., whatever.
Just came here to ask: Is this dude still relevant?
This is how I want Z to explain all the sounds @25:50