Is The Discraft Anax Just a BETTER Thunderbird?? // Bag it or Bin it
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That's a sweet dye job on that anax
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thanks for dying it!
did you dye the thunderbird one to??? so sick
@@JohnnySnipes That was Jack, who was in the Bodanza Battle 2 v 1 in Illinois
@@JohnnySnipes I did the Anax and the Paradox
Thanks for addressing the control driver slot- it is often not addressed, or they're all considered fairways.
You’re my favorite disc golf content Anthony, keep it up dude your content is up there with simon, paul, etc… Editing is on point and only getting better each and every video.
Love you dude!!!
Bonedanza gang
I'm almost all MVP now and I never thought I'd love them as much as I do. Almost every disc is so forehand friendly and it's so easy to find different weights and plastics in almost everything
You need to do a video on MVP’s 6 speed drivers. The resistor, servo, signal, and relay are all heavily under rated.
The servo is definitely one of my favorites. Has the control of a lower speed disc, but somehow goes as far as most of my 8-9 speeds.
I love your review format. It's great to see them on courses and compared to the leading competitors. I'd love to see some fieldwork comparisons with a focus on the flight paths if that's possible. Plus, it would be sick to see you absolutely bomb some drivers.
Anax for the WIN!!! Glad you like it!
Love how in-depth you are. And thanks for putting with putters!!!
Welcome to Mobile! Hurricane central😆
Love your content and you're playing my "home course!" Thanks for info!
as a terra thrower, its a little closer to a firebird but i still LOVE them and think its worth looking at
Like you mentioned, i think the Terra is more OS than these slots.
Great video, man! Similar molds to the Thunderbird that I've thrown: Discraft Cryztal Vulture, Latitude 64 Culverin, and the Latitude 64 Striker.
Whenever you come to the Gainesville Fl area I’ll give you a disc that’s dyed if you really like the dyed discs. Got about 70 all different whatever you’d like your an awesome inspiration and deserve it
Big fan of my Anax. Used to throw the Crank on a forehand, Anax is now my go to unless I need a bit more distance.
My fav for that slot is the PD. I was surprised its not in the comparison ^^
I have an esp Anax and i love it super straight with reliable finish and the first disc ive gotten over 400 feet but with a 360 ive also been loving the insanity and the trace
I recently started bagging an Anax and a Vulture and honestly they change the way I play. Such great discs.
I didn't love my champ thunderbird until it beat into a really nice 0|1 stability. Now it's one of the best discs in my bag. Rides flat for a good ways down the fairway and then has a gentle fade late in it's flight.
My experience with thunderbirds have been mixed. I've owned two. One was straight and I could throw it farther than everything I owned at the time. It was a flatter champion run. I've played a lot since I lost that one and gotten the arm speed to throw 12 speeds. Recently I bought a domey champ thunderbird and it flies like a firebird for me. Low distance and meat hook.
that 9, 10 , 11 muni stretch...favorite local course!
I love my Anax. I have a slightly more beat in, high weight one that is money on those slightly windier days, especially when it's a right to left wind.
Holy Muni in Mobile! I thought those holes looked familiar. Cracked content dude!
The anax has recently got a full time spot in the bag. And I noticed that my thunderbird is rarely used anymore.
Commenting this before watching, but the Anax is one of my top 3 favorite discs ever, so I really hope you like it
I wonder if you'll show up on footage next year, keep up the good work. And don't forget to be humble, you still have a lot to learn.
hope so, but not expecting it at all! Appreciate that! Anything in particular your last comment is about?
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Not in particular, just a general reminder. If you keep that in mind you could reach your fullest potential. I've seen many people get good quickly, and many of them never got any better if I'm being honest. I hope you can use my words in a positive way.
I totally can! I was just wondering if there was anything that you were seeing that made you say that instead of it just being a general encouragement! I appreciate you and the community who are here on my videos to support but also help me along my journey even with some tough love at times! Really appreciate you, man!
I think if you're comparing a disc head-to-head, maybe consider giving points based on where they land in relation to the basket.
This video for example, comparing fairway drivers... landing in circle 2 = 1 point, circle 1 = 2 points. And don't putt with that disc either. Missing a putt with a 10 speed takes away point value for that disc, when that's not even it's intended purpose. I think this would show a better apples-to-apples comparison between discs when you value where they land in relation to the basket and not putting with them. Nobody's gonna putt with an Anax, Tesla, or Thunderbird.
Appreciate the content as always! If you're ever in the Dayton, Ohio area (huge disc golf zone, btw)... would be happy to meet up for a Bodanza battle!
The scores never have an effect on how I review the discs, just an element to make the videos more interesting and add stakes for potential giveaways
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Gotcha. Thanks for the reply, looking forward to your future videos Anthony.
It's like 37F here and my boy is drinking iced coffee... maybe I need a van :)
I loved the tesla icon instead of the driver in the bottom.
One thing I can weigh in on - I have bagged all three molds, Anax, Tesla and Thunderbird and can say Thunderbirds definitely have consistency issues compared to the other two. I recently bought two champion Thunderbirds and one is not only way grippier but also has a much higher parting line (dark purp, translucent) and is stable enough to handle power forehands no problem. The not so grippy one (pink, opaque) has a bit more glide and has more ability to be finessed on backhand, but can't handle forehand power well at all surprisingly which is basically what I bought them for. They literally feel like two different blends of plastic. I have tried two ESP Anax's and two plasma Tesla's over the past year which fly exactly the same to each other. All in all, I think the Tesla is my favorite between the three. It feels the best in my hand and goes so, so far when I forehand it and it feels more torque resistance to both Thundy and Anax but with a bit less fade. All three are great molds and have slight variations in flight, but I think fit the same slot before they break in at least.
Have had all 3 of these in the last year. My thoughts: Champ thunderbirds start out the most stable, they want to get to the ground and kinda dumpy. They do make great headwind discs and after abit of beat in, seem to really increase their glide.
The Anax wants to glide, if you rip it, it holds it height level very well, It is not as stable but that last 15% of the flight it does want to hook up and fade though. Not as stable as numbers.
The Tesla I think is pretty plastic dependent. I had a plasma one I think and it felt very similar to the thunderbird, but glided more. Really useful for pushing forward hyzer shots, but at my arm speed (320-335 distance w/them) wasn't really getting any turn on it. Definitely stable-os.
I think new my favourite was the Tesla, but after a bit of beating the thunderbird becomes king. Anax kinda undecided on and least experience with.
Before watching; This will probably be the most interesting video for me personally that you've ever done. Decided on doing form on 9-10 speeds (19-21mm rim but not marked as 11 speeds) for the off-season.
So extended my few an Orc, an "old" Flash first run, Viking Discs Fenrir, Berserker, to a used Invictus, used Firebird and some Prodigy H1v2, H3v2 and FX-2. Mostly beefy af but the distance was not the goal really, but controlled clean throws. Not gotten much throwing done sadly... The Thunderbird in G★tar is on my wishlist if I can get it in a nice color.
That was a good one! Get some more 10-speeds-isch and compare them for me please, pretty please ;)
The only problem is my forehand being 200-250' still, I've never been able to throw balls or anything far so I guess I'll work hard on getting to 300' forehands and then use turnovers instead... ^_^
I also learned how to decipher between MVP and Axiom by that guys comment on the rim color 😳.
SOMEONE COMMENTED IT????:?:???????
The smudge on the lens: 🤩
*sensor lol, even worse
I’m not a PMB fanboy by any means but I bag all his discs besides the Luna because there so goooooood. I eagled a hole I’ve only eagled once with the athena yesterday.
Should give the Kastaplast Lots a shot in that 9 speed slot
The Anax is definitely my favorite disc in my bag. I actually started bagging two now cuz my first one is pretty good beat in right now and i wanted one that flies like it did at the beginning, although I throw the first one way more. It flies like a farther Teebird/Athena disc right now
Nevermind, just heard your explanation further in 😂
If you want a disc that flies like you want your Thunderbirds to fly I suggest checking out an Innova Savant in Champion plastic.
Funny thing about the Anax is even though it's listed as a 10 speed vs the 9 speed Thunderbird, it actually has a slightly smaller rim than the Thunderbird, measuring in at 18.9mm as opposed to 19.15mm. It does have a slightly sharper nose however. I do find Thunderbirds on the whole a little more overstable than Anaxes, but I have also found both molds suffer quite a bit from run variation, where they can be either beefcakes or straight out of the box. I prefer the hand feel of the Thunderbird.
You should review Barela Color Glow Teebird3!
the anax being wider in diameter than a thunderbird I would guess means it glides more. I have both in my bag, prefer the thunderbird bit the anax is stiffer and fights the wind better, but if I throw then really hard the anax goes quite a bit further for me.
I throw both of these discs quite often, and IMO the Anax is a great forehand disc, whereas the Thunderbird is better for backhands, although both I think are pretty good for really any type of shot
The Jerm thunderbird sounds kinda like what you want that champ bird to be. Especially the 2022s. Significantly less OS than champ or even some of the regular stock run star thundies. I'm not "good" but that's my forehand driver and it works great for that slot for me
I've heard that and I bought one but actually gave it away! If I still wanted to bag thunderbirds I'd probably grab some of those but I don't want to have to spend 30 for that slot honestly if there are competitors. Plus, I'm tyring to get a different manufacturer in each slot and I probably want innova for somewhere else lol
@@BodanzaDiscGolf oh for sure! I won't throw it over water, it's not worth 30 bucks to prove I have a noodle arm 😂
I was comming here to say this. The 2022 Jerm thunderbirds are awesome. And flat top too. 👌 i agree champ thundys are super OS and I still bag one for my OS and the Jerm 2022 for between the champ and my escapes
Oh and Gstar thudys are pretty good too, but alittle less durable
Already replied to another comment but you were thinking of the MVP Zenith! From what I know they were meant to fly like Conrad’s Beat-in Wraiths. A great hyzerflip disc but definitely not stable enough to fill this specific slot in your bag.
Love your channel! I’ve been a forehand player for years but you practicing forehand has helped push me to to practice backhand more. I picked up a Finish Line Era in Composite plastic. I think you mentioned it in one of your recent videos. I absolutely love it and wonder if it might fit that slot and be a different brand. Keep up the great vids and hope ya can find a disc ya love that slot!
I've heard those are solid! I'll have to try out some eras!
I love the anax, although it is a 10 speed it’s my favorite fairway. I bag 2, a more straight to stable one and then a flippy one and they’re so money. If im not going distance driver i’m reaching for the Anax.
I gotta stable Thunderbird that’s similar to my anax. My 2022 big Jerm thundy is a lil less stable and easier to manipulate angles 🤘🏻
wish we had that kind of weather. you should review the mvp wave.
I got a tesla a few weeks ago and it's way more beefy than the numbers would indicate. I don't even have a spot for it because it's so surprisingly overstable.
Teslas that I've thrown have been verrry similar to my Thunderbirds, I think they're a great choice for the comparison, flight numbers aside
My Neutron Tesla flies very similar to my beat-in GStar Thunderbird. Straight with mild but reliable finish. MVP runs a bit more stable than the numbers for me. But yeah, I think you wanted the Terra for a more accurate comparison.
I wanted to love the Anax, but I'm a Getaway/PD guy. I've purchased and tried about 8 Anax's. I''ve got several ESP, all types, all are slick and brittle, not durable or grippy at all, hard to throw, end up with chunks missing long before they break in. Once they break in, they flex and fly so erratically that I can't trust them. I have two BigZ and they are just slick and hard. Discraft needs to fix its plastic before they lose more of us. They literally have the worst plastic, on average, in disc golf right now. I bag two Era's for straighter shots and long distance turnovers.
Should do anax vs PD. From my experience they are very similar
I throw a beat up sexton firebird for that slot. Seems to work well
Who else noticed that black dot on the screen the whole time? Lol 😂
yeah it was some sensor dust, it'll be in one more video. I stopped down the aperture a bit, sad about it but vid was fine enough to not reshoot lol
I LOVE 3x & 4x McBeth thundies. Have absolutely hated any Thunderbird not those aforementioned runs
Man you got to do a collab with Robbie c disc golf!
Ooh wish the getaway made the comparison
Fire bird definitely my control driver. Whenever I just need dependable fade or hard to accomplish shorter flex shots it's hard to go wrong with this slot.
Sounds more like a utility disc. Control means like you can park it within 350
@SquirtHoliday control to me means it does the most amount of shots for me. By your definition I probably have no control drivers cause I'm bly a pro
@@sethdavila7367I'm a professional.
Have you tried the big jerm thunderbirds? I love my 2022
Try the dynasty if you want that beat in thunder flight
Someone else may have already commented this, but I think the MVP disc you were thinking of in a thunderbird slot is the new Zenith - 11, 5, -0.5, 2
Or maybe the Terra, which is my personal favorite over stable workable fairway driver
Just a 2cents here, I’ve had the opposite experience, I’m finding the zenith to be flippy, hyzerflip type disc, like a -1.5 turn.
Edit: on throws over 300ft BH and FH
@@acannoli8287 that’s good to know! I haven’t had a chance to throw the Zenith yet - just thought that might be what he had in mind based on the flight numbers.
I do bag a Terra though, and I definitely feel like it flies some similar lines to the ones in the video - despite only being an 8 speed
Man the one thing I'll give to discraft though is gosh they're purdy XD even with the horrible rims
I'm not even gonna say it anymore but my favourite fairway/control driver would've fit in greatly in this review
I recognize my home course
Get yourself a nordic phenom PD. PD is the grandaddy of all these discs. Or. Just throw that Tesla. It seemed like you threw it the best out of these discs. I found Teslas to be plenty overstable. So easy to find a Tesla in all kinds of weights and plastics. Get a 175 fission for overstable. And
How did you like Muni Gold? They recently put it back in. That course destroyed my confidence first time I played it.
I loved it! Super fun course with some good challenge. Hole 18 is brutal tho!
In your bag it or bin it drills I don't get why you use the tester discs to putt as well. I mean they are not designed for that. I feel it would be more fare to judge the drivers by what they are supposed to do. Just a thought.
Subed for the pre tee poof hair
You should try a discmania Nordic Phenom for this slot
Hear me out Anthony, try the tesla as a forehand roller! It’s my go to forehand roller disc. Disclaimer, I use it as a roller in neutron plastic.
if I had I roller I'd definitely try that!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf I feel ya! the tesla is the disc that I learned to forehand roller on! Love the vids and content man keep it up!
I think you wanted the fission photon
Could you do a disc dyeing video please.
If I try it I will definitely film it!
I’m throwing the animus in this slot. It’s a 10.5 speed so it could almost fill this slot and fill the slot of a more stable grace
Vulture is more like the thunderbird than the Anax. I bag the Vulture and the Anax, Vulture for uphill and tailwind, Anax for downhill and headwind
Star Thunderbird is where it's at. I know McBeth threw the Champ Thunderbirds, but I think Big Jerm is right and Star is where it's at.
You should give the innova savant a try. The flight numbers are wrong and it’s just a better, slightly les os thunderbird. Trust
would to see you try to dye some discs
I definitely want to try that!
Gotta get that lens clean.
not the lens, sensor dust from changing the lens just before shooting that I didn't notice. will be in one more vid I shot at the same time then gone!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf hate when that happens. What camera and lens are you using?
sony a7iv sigma 16-28 2.8 contemporary for this
yeah it definitely makes more sense to just use a putter inside the circle, you’d never put with a 10 speed driver realistically
Love the videos!
Love the videos. Hate the shorts lol.
#teamdust lol i bag an anex and it is beat just right for me atleast. Straight, ton of glide, and a good finish.
You misquoted the flight numbers at the end. Innova's site claims the numbers are 4,2-1,3. Just so you are aware.
loving your videos... but i keep wanting to clean my screen off.. please for the love of golf and good videos... clean your camera lens
my name is Inigo Montoya, prepare to fly
Ive found that the tour series anax is more stable in a headwind than the champion thunderbird.
Try the Ethos construct instead.
I prefer my Roadrunner to the Thunderbird.
Honest thought. I don’t like reviews where you put with the disc being reviewed. No one’s going to putt with it. And the score won’t always reflect what the disc provides the ‘opportunity’ to shoot. Maybe inside c2 use a putter of choice. Not a deal breaker, but driver putts make me cringe a little. Either way, love your content. Disclaimer: I’m a new disc golfer too, started this last spring.
Also thinking putting drivers can’t be helping your practice either…
don't think it hurts practice but I likely won't do it with fairways and drivers here on out. The conclusions about the disc are never related to the score I shoot, that' just a fun way to shoot reviews, but yeah, don't really want to use non putters within a range I feel I can consistently hit metal
@@BodanzaDiscGolf rootin for ya.
Nice!!
The Tesla seems like a very different disc than the other two...
Does anyone else just skip past him putting with drivers and watch him tee off?
I guess Teslas have changed, I remember having one ages ago and it was very OS and dumpy, much more so than Anax or Thundie.
Anyway, been a big fan of the Anax. Don't let the initial stability fool you (especially if you're rocking ESP), the disc beats in pretty quickly and becomes way straighter and ultimately a really nice hyzer flip machine. Great as such but if you're looking to hold on to that stability it's going to require some willingness to cycle fairly often.
Been trying out the new C-PD for that exact reason, will see how it turns out after a bit of wear.
Would be interested to hear if anyone has experience of Z vs. ESP Anax.
Man i hate your deep breaths but still ur videos are awesome haha
try a star thunderbird
Owned the Anax, and then sold it as fast as possible. I despised the hand feel, worse disc I have ever felt. For me it’s a MF teebird3 which is a 8 speed. Then a Wraith all day and every day.
i love the anax
I'd say the vulture is better than both
I think the Tesla is 10/4/-0.5/2.5
Any fellow PD enjoyers
I still love my thunderbirds but all those flights looked nice! I carry different weights of Thunderbird - one max weight and one 165g. The 165g one flies alot straighter for me so the two are super nice together. I throw the 165 for my Thunderbird shots with little or no wind and throw the max weight one for those shots in the wind haha. Would love input on where you fall with that choice tho
Sounds like it would work and if you're throwing them well that sounds great!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf it definitely does for now! Keep us posted when you find that goldilocks control slot for yourself I'm likely to give it a try! New to your channel but I appreciate all the work you put into editing and your follow flights when the disc is harder to see. Good stuff man!
You're judging a control driver partly on how well you're putting from each of the lies or how well you put with that disc.
These are not good criteria.
You should judge them solely on the properties you want from them.
Distance, control, wind resistance, hand feel, multi-use, etc.
How you rank those priorities and how they perform to compared to each other is all that should matter.
that is all that matters, it's just more fun to make a video that has scoring than doesnt