when red first met Massie and Jacob underneath the water i got chills lol, i thought it was so creepy and honestly so good. I loved watching Red's emotions be conveyed without needing to give her a voice.
When Jacob and massie were underwater and red was staring at them in the wide shot view it was creepily cool. And then we zoom in to red sinking into the abyss from the two of them. Gosh it was just so creepy I loved it
My main criticism is that they could’ve put more detail into the main sea beast. I think the green one from the beginning of the film looked much better
I was really impressed with the particle physics in this movie. The water, explosions, dust, ect. Like you said, it was strange to see something so realistic beside a cartoon, but I didn’t hate it. Your synopsis was excellent too.
@@UnleashTheGhouls Funny how Lightyear is less spectacular but on the theaters while this movie is on Netflix. This should have been in theaters as it has visual graphics fitting for the silver screen. The exotic locations, the texture, and the grand scale worldliness.
This doesn't make any sense, look at little children, nobody taught them to fight each other in the kindergarten for ownership of a particular toy, yet they still do it. It is just simply in human nature.
@@tamas9554 no it’s not? As they grow they watch and copy others. We are shown to hate. Not by nature, only when our survival is threatened but no. We are taught to hate.
The only real complaints i have about the sea beast is Red Blister's design, as the supposed center of the movie it lacks uniqueness, in franchise like Monster Hunter, the flagship monster always carry a design that stands out from the rest, there's nothing in the red blister's design that separates it from the other beast, but aside from that its a good movie, go watch it if you haven't
Yeah I think that the design of the creatures drawn on the maps was really cool, and I think I'd have preferred them being in that style than the cute style they went for!
I thought so too. The rest of the movie kept me hooked so I can ignore it but it would be nice to have a more unique design. Some uniqueness was probably sacrificed to make the design more streamlined and easier to turn into a product to make more money like what Disney does 🙄
@@ellemilsomart i feel like its a bit of an oxymoron to make your character less unique with the intent of making merchandise and goodies out of it, an IP is only as strong as its identity, and in this case, characters, i can't even remember what the red blister looks like 2 hours after watching the movie, and when you make one of the center point of your movie unrecognisable, people won't buy your merch, because they have no idea who's who. And of course the eventual comparison to how to train your dragon is imminent, so i'm just gonna put that here, everyone knows who Toothless is after they watch the movie, not only because of his design, but also because they added segments that aid us to know him better, like his first interaction with hiccup and human in general. So i don't think that this is a choice that they made as a mean of financial gain, this is a design choice, and like every design choice, we won't get the full context until the designer explained what lead to red blister's final design and what purpose does it serve.
@@bigboss8647 haha i just skimmed thru that. That makes sense. What I did mean to say though is that big movie production companies (illumination, disney, dreamworks) like to play it safe nowadays to have as broad of an audience as possible. Just a simple, easily digestable animation that can appeal to every family.
Hands down the best animated feature to come out in a long time. The characters were excellent, the animation was technically amazing, visually breathtaking and just a delight to watch. The dialogue was absolutely wonderful! I loved, loved, loved the characters. Each had their own unique personality, shape and hardness that you just don't see anymore. Too many characters in films are just designated background troupes, there to instill morals or feelings for the main character but without any individuality. This film was different. Each character felt like it could decide to walk out of the film and continue having an amazing story and life all on their own. Overall just awesome and I can't wait to see more from the directors/writers/animators and all. Well done and great review!!
Good movie, but it needed more beasts. Like, they coulda included another half dozen big beasts to make the creatures seem more diverse and terrifying.
Though I did enjoy the experience of this film with my family, I do feel it was let down by weak plot-points and loose story threads. You already mentioned the competition pitting hunters versus the navy, which came to nothing. The first fight with the green beast has Captain Crow dragged down into the depths in a very dramatic moment. We don't see how he survives or how that beast is defeated. He opens his eyes and that's that. Feels like there was a deleted scene missing there. It seems the near-death experience made the Captain aware of his own mortality. He speaks of succession, and chooses to rest from the pursuit for a while. This tells me the missing scene was important. Then there was the faustian deal made with the witch and the dreaded consequence of that deal, contemplated by the crew for all of ten seconds before being forgotten and never being an issue again. I also feel an injustice was done to Captain Crow. Here's a character that was capable of love, loyalty, honor, generosity and bravery, respected and revered, who was turned into the main villain of the story without a chance at redemption. Keep in mind he was initially more understanding of Massie than Jacob was. He was willing to turn from his obsessive pursuit to help another ship because of an honor code. Yes, he turned on Massie and later Jacob, but that was because he saw their actions as traitorous and a betrayal, not just of him, but everything they were as hunters. He almost took on the admiral for the same reason. Jacob had his chance at redemption. Captain Crow was never given that chance. Perhaps the writers tried to steer away from a storyline which would have made it too similar to "How to Train Your Dragon" but then they should've set up the character of Crow differently. There's enough loose threads to be able to continue into a sequel in which case my guess at a storyline would be that the witch comes to collect her dues which may threaten the lives of Jacob and Massie. In a final act of courage Captain Crow sacrifices himself to save them, thus earning his redemption.
I don’t think that a scene is missing; it’s more powerful that we don’t know how the captain survived (probably just floated unconsciously upwards after the beast finally died). In the same way we never get told what actually had happened to the Monarch. It is more powerful that everyone just fell silent. And the consequence of the faustian deal *is* the lack of redemption. Crow has lost everything, as predicted by the witch. I’m amazed how much this movie captures the feel of old Hollywood pirate movies in technicolor 😃
If you go back and rewatch you will notice that when the Captain was dragged down, Jacob was still under water. He wa still close enough to cut the captain loose.And Jacob is the first face the Captain sees when he wakes up. So its obvious he saved the Captain.
I loved this movie. It has great characters, great dynamic between the mains, and the animations/ design of the world is gorgeous! I can easily see people writing fanfic and roleplays into this world, and I'd actually love another movie in this world, past or future, even if it's not necessary.
I believe the movie’s ending was quite bad. Why? Well there’s hundreds of years of hunting and everyone’s willing to immediately give it up. I would also mention how the kid has absolutely no proof of her claims, but everyone goes with what she said.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 The Sea beast attacking BACK cuz the humans hunted them. The Sea Beast was just fighting back, now when the human will stop hunt them there is no reason for the Sea Beast to FIGHT BACK. Even Maisie explain that in her speech at the end of the film.
Have to admit when they showed the admiral's ship, I knew that the imerperial force wouldn't be an issue. My first thought was there were too many cannons and the ship would be low in the water making it slow, and immediately captain crow said my thoughts. The ship would be shredded in the first fight it encountered, so I was right. I didn't expect it to take the turn the story did and it was a very good message that I think really needs to be talked about these days. You can be a hero and still be wrong. I encounter people who say things like "George Washington owned slaves, so he's evil" and basically all the good he did do was nullified. It was a unique message, and I loved it. I also loved the length. I loved the pacing as it didn't feel rushed and took its time fleshing things out properly. My problem with Moana was that the first half had great pacing and building and once she leaves the island it felt super rushed and destroyed the movie for me so much that I kind of hate the movie. I do not consider 2 hours long. But I can also sit through 20 episodes of NAruto in one sitting so.... take that as it will.
actually there are a few references, that giant ship for example is in my opinion a nod to either the spanish ship of line Santísima Trinidad or the british HMS Victory with both having some ridicilious amount of cannons... also when they encountere all the eggs on the iland there was an alien reference... which came a bit unexpected tbh xD
When I saw the admiral's ship, I also knew it was a terrible ship to fight sea monsters. Like what captain crow said the cannons are in fixed locations and are basically worthless, in fact they would only be useful if a sea beast was on land or up above the water, and even then, red was able to just plow right threw it. As for the hunter's ships, they were fast, compact, and had multiple places to attack from, even close to the water. The royal ship will only have 2 uses; to parade around and show other countries their strength, and to fight other humans.
@@adrynseidl2507 Idk much about ships, why would the fixed cannons be a bad thing, why would the ship be too low in the water and why's that a bad thing?
@@ReblazeGaming fixed cannons are probably bad against such creatures since the creature can just attack from behind or the front, where the cannons cannot face. In reality of course, that wouldnt matter, a giant sea beast could just break any ships keel without ever surfacing and sink any vessel easily without fearing retaliation no matter how the guns can rotate.
I agree about the admiral v hunters subplot being a missed opportunity, I also didn't like how the plot with Gwen went nowhere. They built up the idea of Crow giving up "everything" for the weapon and yet nothing happens :/ I'm assuming she gets his ship and crew? Does he die? What did the moving tattoos around his neck have to do with anything?! It didn't need to be a big thing, since she was merely a way to get a weapon, but it felt like there was more to it and then "well NVM then". Also Crows idea of bringing the creature alive didn't make sense minus the point of keeping Red alive for the ending moral. He didn't promise to bring it back alive, yet he says he did and that's why he doesn't let the poison finish the beast first....and then they waste the rest of the poison, that again Crow had to give EVERYTHING for, and toss it into the water. There were good things, it's not a terrible movie, but I feel they really missed the ball. It had the chance to really tie everything together and hit a little harder. It's average for me sadly :(
I think the idea of Crow only pumping enough poison to incapacitate the Red Bluster was twofold. 1. To allay the Royals' erroneous preconceptions about the beasts (the same ones that led to the construction of the admiral's comically flawed ship) by presenting them a live one as opposed to a skeleton. 2. So that Crow was the one to deal the killing blow to the Bluster by his hands - the same monster what killed his own father and thus enflamed his lifelong vendetta against it.
IMO you misinterpreted the "great life, great death" motto. It's used from the very beginning to show how there's something creepy about the propaganda that Maisie eats up: she wants to live a great life (as a heroic hunter) but also die a great death (fighting the beasts). It's a death cult mindset, in which dying a hero is the *goal*, something to aspire to. They keep repeating it through the movie, but at the very end instead she only says "live a great life", and nothing about death: she's decided the important thing is living happily, not dying in battle.
Sea Beast should become everyones’ new feel good favorite movie. It has everything, rescue, adoption growth and repeat but in an unpredictable way. I laughed out loud, I cheered for the captain “now” and the captain “soon”, the future daughter and all the new friends made on the journey and yes I definitely shed a tear or two. Mostly tears for all the lost times where we could have had great movies like this without fear of backlash from those who weren’t ready for reality on the silver screen.
I loved everything about this movie! Except the ending line. I really think that line was the opposite of what was attempting to be portrayed. And I believe this movie messed up where HTTYD went right. I've lived in multiple places that are absolutely dominated by nature. Alaska and rural Hawaii being the most notable. People in California and in cities tend to think the best way to interact with nature is to donate to a nature charity, and to maybe take a walk in the park, but never interact with wild animals, never help wild animals, and don't indulge in that "wilderness" because it's "untouchable", because they'll get "too used to humans". We are apart of nature. We are not separate from it. This movie had a great chance to transition into how the ships now sail the seas researching about the creatures that are basically whales. Humanity didn't shy away from whales and never explore the ocean again, we took the time to learn about them and learning about the beings we share this planet with is crucial to gaining empathy. You won't have real empathy for an animal you've only ever seen on the screen. I've touched and felt dolphins, but I've never touched or seen a whale up close before. That's one of my main goals. I find the ending line of this movie to be disappointing, because we as a race should be encouraging eachother to grow more curious and care more about the animals we share this planet with, not detach ourselves. If we detach, then the only human interaction nature will ever receive are deforesters and sport hunters. I believe humans are so different with extreme intelligence and evolution, but sometimes we waste the potential of helping nature and wild animals by believing we aren't wild ourselves. We are wild. And we are smart, and we are capable of being the middle bridge of understanding between two species and empathy across hundreds of species; not just dogs and cats. I see a snail, and I see a life worth saving. I see a bear, and I see a mom scolding her kids. It is so, so important to see the soul in animals, not for just conservation reasoning, but it's because you are missing out on such a huge opportunity when you are born onto this vast and mysterious planet but don't look outside of humanity. Emotions existed long before humans.
I feel like the movie wanted to go in that direction but ran out of time in telling it. After Maisie and Jacob find themselves in the mouth of Red, Maisie asks all of these questions about the beast that Jacob doesn’t know the answers to because he’s spent his whole life hunting them, not studying them. And then continues with “maybe it’s time to start”. The main conflict that needed resolving was that the royals convinced the public that the sea beats were nothing but monsters that needed to be eradicated, creating the Hunters. These animals obviously learned to retaliate against their attacks to the point where any ship that they see is perceived to be an immediate threat. And this is centuries worth of damage. Red was practically paralyzed with rage at seeing a ship that was simply docking until one of the men spotted her, shot her out of fear, and that’s what pushed her to attack. It is better to understand these creatures than to hunt them, but these are still very dangerous animals that have their own territory to protect, and they will defend it with all of their power. Ships passing through will always run the risk of being attacked. In HTTYD, the dragons were more akin to flying wolves, predators that would steal the livestock of humans (because penned animals made for an easy meal) to feed themselves and their Queen but would otherwise stay within their own territory. Humans were obviously opposed to this, and began fighting back, thus creating a continuous conflict between dragons and people. And much like how ancient wolves learned to develop a codependent relationship with humans, hiccup found that the dragons could be domesticated, which became a relationship that benefited both parties well as dragons no longer had to steal livestock and risk getting killed for it. Maisie and Jacob built a bond with two sea monsters, they got lucky that Red was so understanding and that Blue was just a baby. Additionally, they came to learn that not only are these creatures not inherently vicious but that humans drew first blood and continued to hunt these creatures within their own territory based on centuries of lies. For the time being, the best course of action after coming to the decision to stop the hunting would be to leave these creatures alone.
that, combined with the fact that the end morale was basically just "hunting bad, monsters good. humans should stay on land." whilst a lot more relevant when it comes to our impact on nature with our advanced technology, the situation in a world like this would be naturally severely different, and sea beasts would have been the equivalent of large cats like lions, tigers and jaguars, animals that are not only dangerous but have a history of specifically seeking out human targets. I dont think the movie ever hinted at the idea that trading or cargo vessels may have been struck by sea beasts, thus further invigorating the war itself.
Great review I absolutely loved Sea Beast. Just finished watching it and honestly it was a solid 9/10 for me, I think it was a little long but the length gave it time to breath and we get to see more of the characters. I think this is a movie I will come back to every so often.
I think that the line “Live a great life; die a great death” is actually a motto of the villains. It says that heroism is defined by bold actions, but as the movie shows, there are many ways to be a hero without dying. Jacob is the best hero when he is saving others’ lives, not risking them for the sake of greatness. He and Maisie actually end the story living long, safe, happy lives.
I'm pleasantly surprised that the nobody died in the movie, especially Captain Crow. I was 100% expecting him and the crew to die after that witch scene. But they didn't. There was no following that trope of killing off people for their evil choices or terrible mistakes. Which is good! I'm glad the crew still gets to live out their futures, but Crow lost everything as in: public respect, his crew's respect, his son, his potential granddaughter, and what will he do now?
I really did like the first half of the movie, I really did, it had so many moments that harkened back to stories like Moby Dick with a mix of themes of peace and coexistence, but when it came to near and at the end it felt like the way the things they were talking about and saying as lessons turned the whole movie into a massive allegory and that kinda ruined it for me. Lessons are important but the way some of them were implemented didn't feel like they melded well with parts of the story. On a different note, I was personally hoping for a scene where Crow and Jacob realize, through Crow's journal, that the reason Jacob's ship was destroyed by a sea beast was because Crow drove the sea beast into it during a hunt without realizing. That would have had a good message of how it can be too easy to shift the blame on someone due to situations that can't be controlled, whether it be a sunk ship, or a lost deadlight.
i honestly this was just gonna be the average netflix movie but i actually thoroughly enjoyed it. the maisie character was kinda annoying in my opinion but it was still pretty awesome
I found Maisie a bit insufferable, the modern trope of a main character who can do nothing wrong (she never makes an incorrect decision) so it felt like she never learnt or grew as a character. Other characters saw good development though and the animation banged
She almost got Jacob and herself killed several times and was a typical troublemaking kid, how is she not flawed? She wasn't perfect at all lmao, that's what made her endearing.
The key word here is “almost.” Weaknesses only have weight if there are consequences. In addition, it isn’t her childish trouble making that almost gets them killed, but rather her apparently instinctual moral knowledge of what the right thing to do was. She supposedly grew up fed the lies of a death cult and living a great life and great death. But when push comes to shove, she instantly throws all that away without any real reason. But the worst part about it is she’s right. It turns out that this monster that was going to kill them all just a scene ago is actually misunderstood, and willing to rescue two of the people who were just trying to kill it. People who have been hunting it it’s whole life! I don’t know if you’ve ever run into any carnivores in real life, but this is far from typical animal behavior. TLDR She doesn’t have a reason for any of her actions outside of finding a monster cute, and she’s still right about everything
One of the best movie so far. The part when Maisie confronted and exposed the royals. As soon as she screamed "I have every right" well the subtitles kinda spoiled me first lol but as soon as I read I immediately CRIED bc I felt her pain thru those words b4 she even said it and I was SOOO proud of her for fighting back, as always. She did mention about the people have lost in the battles as in general which is good bc if they had scripted to mention her dead parents first idk how many days I will be crying. Overall imo the movie was PERFECT I think part of the reason I cried sm was bc, most movies and films I've seen all of them just got defeated in an argument. So when the king was yelling his fking stinky breath I was so mad and literally wanted to punch my phone but then she fought back. Just makes you think, even an ordinary child can stand up to some royal idiots and wins.
My only real frustration is the loss of the "Adventure" feel at the end. The hunters hunt the beasts to be sure, but they never came back to Crow's idea of having Jacob see what was even farther out there. They never resolved the "deal" with the evil witch lady either. and all of it just feels like a flat ending because it feels like a failure to finish/continue the adventure. There are also moments that show that there are clearly 2 levels of beasts in the movie. 1 being the far more passive beasts like Red, and that there are very agressive and hostile beasts like the crab monster. and a fitting end would be to "Research" the differences and help to more accurately solve the problems posed by the beasts to begin with. My Wife and I both threw out a couple of ideas that could have been more fulfilling endings (our opinions.) And the one we like the most was a reconstructed Inevitable sailing side by side with Red as they explore deeper into the unknown. It does feel like they had a lot of ideas for this movie and It is really sad to me that so much could be cut entirely and absolutely no impact would be had on the story. (the Chase, and the evil Island lady are significant time wasters that only pad the runtime)
Fantastic movie. It took a slightly edgier approach for an animated film which I really admired. It didn't stray away from intense moments like crew members getting snatched up, or guns being used, and it really used Thalassophobia (fear of the ocean) to its advantage. The fight scenes were top notch and the music scores made me want to put on a captains hat and throw back a pint. Animation was superb. Monster designs I liked. Red Bluster gave me a bit of a Toothless (How To Train Your Dragon) vibe, but I still felt they were able to separate the two beasts very well. Overall, Id give this movie a 9/10.
For me I disagree with the soundtrack. There weren’t that many memorable pieces compared to movies like HTTYD or kung fu panda like tai lungs theme or even Kai’s. Overall I still loved the film. Just wish it wasn’t too predictable. Not as predictable as lightyear tho lol
The only problem I had with this movie was how bland Red's design was, I think they could have made Red's design more unique and detailed like the monster at the start and the green monster they first fight--
I particularly liked the crab Red fought. It was threatening to look at. Red on the other hand aint so creepy when upclose. Ig it is a movie directed to child audiences, but i think if i were a kid id love a scary monster whos acrually a sweetheart.
Wife and I weren't impressed. I feel like nobody knows how to write hardship anymore because most writers today haven't actually experienced it. Even for a kids movie the writing seems too simplistic and bland.
Its honestly really fuckin good that they did another movies in the era of pirates, besides than POTC no movie pirates is actually that interest, so much potential for the pirates era, they did a good job executing this
captain dud says "only if we kill it" then got a powerful poison and weapon from a witch for a price of "everything" then decide he has made a promise to the king and queen so spares it for the end then the "everything" price of the witch was not added in
Wym? He literally lost everything. His crew deserted him, his son left him, hunting is no longer a priority and he's basically lost the one purpose he's had for his entire life.
I'm surprised the Red Bluster didn't die especially after Captain Crow made a deal with a witch to make a strong enough poison to insta kill it yet no so this shows the red Bluster has a strong immune system
@@GDSK09 It's literally a part of the story, sarah tells him they shouldn't remove it but crow wants to kill the beast in front of the royals so he does that
@@Ewokpilot65 ah that explains. It was shown in the movie too that the dart was still pumping poison so I guess the beast didn't get enough of a lethal dosage.
I really enjoyed watching this movie, it had fantastic animation for both the character expressions aswell as the monsters and environments. The only weak point in my opinion was the Red Bluster’s design, I felt the blue beast from the beginning of the film sold the most powerful beast in the sea look better. But the expression dialogue from the red bluster was still hilarious and well done 👍🏿 Oh and one last thing, I feel like the plot point of witch lady who made the needle weapon saying she would take everything from Crowe didn’t get a pay off. Maybe it was because poison didn’t kill the beast so the omen didn’t come true?
Honestly, I realise I'm probably alone in thinking this, but... I feel like this could've just been a fun adventure film about sea beasts without needing to be subversive. The first third of this film, I adore in how its set up and all the cool looking pirate designs, but then that's all shipped out for another plot about subversion. And it's still well written ultimately, but for my tastes, I feel like we don't have enough straight fun adventure films these days and not everything needs a big message.
You know one of the things I liked the most? Just like how to train your dragon with toothless and the other dragons they gave Red and the other beasts so much personality without any dialogue. Like when Joseph attacked Red near the end you could just SEE from the expression on her face she was like “Are you OUT of your mind???” So good!
The only big incoherence in this movie is the absence of the "witch's" repercussions, she gave the hand of God to the captain and in exchange she was supposed to take something very valuable in return. So I was kinda expecting him to die or for the whole crew to die or be cursed, but yeah I guess since it's a children movie they gave up completely on this scene repercussions and pretended it never happened, hoping no one would notice the incoherence....
Yeah after I finished the movie I was like "what was all the fear about that creepy lady then?" They got the poison, and nothing bad happened after. I did think that perhaps it was more metaphorical, and the lady said he'd lose everything, in theory he used the poison, which let him bring it back to the palace, which let it wake up, which led to it showing everyone that monsters aren't that bad, which led to "no more monster hunting." So now Captain Crow has lost his whole livelihood, his legacy, etc. But idk if that was intentional and even if it was, they made it seem like something way more sinister was going to occur that it felt like the witch didn't do anything, especially when the crew were saying stuff like "it's the crew who'll pay the price" but nothing happened to his crew either lol.
Also, with the sea witch why is she considered a witch at all? She has better technology at her fingertips than anybody else has and she has a little bit of alchemy in the form of poison. Other than being creepy looking, there's really no reason to be afraid of her
The price to pay was “everything”. One would think she meant Crow’s and his crew life’s but instead that “everything”was that pirates would no longer hunt so he lost his prestige and his job but not only that, the ship was destroyed in the final confrontation. So in the end he did lost “everything”.
its not exactly the same direction, but it definitely has strong parallels. im not sure if netflix makes toys, but kid me would be wanting ALL the sea monsters.
I adored this movie every second of it, its so well animated and tells a great story, honestly I think not focusing on the race is fine because it gives Captain Crow more desperation and fire when we cut to him from Jacob and Massie.
I struggled with this. I enjoyed it for much of the same reasons you've mentioned, but there are *so many* unfinished plot points that it just left me very frustrated. The story with the Hag went absolutely nowhere. We were promised a grim bargain, but it seems like Crow got what he wanted with zero drawback. The crew questioned Crow's authority more than once - albeit in hushed tones - but that too never came to anything. Then there's Red's nostrils: Why are they airtight? Even when swimming underwater they're perfectly fine for Jacob and Maisie to sit in. You've discussed the fact that the Imperator plot went nowhere. I honestly expected the Imperator to swoop in during the first battle between Red and the Inevitable - wait for the Inevitable to do all the hard work then swoop in, blow the Inevitable out of the water, and take the glory for themselves. Honestly if I was Hornigold, it's what I'd have done. I'm frustrated because whilst I didn't hate this film - there was actually a lot I really liked, like its use of colour (the Red Bluster, the Blue... pet? The green Brickleback, the yellow Momma-Beast, the purple Crab, etc) - I'm frustrated because it could have been *so* much better. I get that the 2-hour running time meant it was already too long for a 'children's film', but that's fine - let it burn slowly. Span everything out over 2 or 3 movies. They could have done so much more with this, but didn't.
It was definitely an enjoyable film, well worth watching. A few issues I had were the First Mate's trust in Maisie's arguments came somewhat out of left field near the end. Additionally, the idea of the beasts being misunderstood creatures that are only attacking in self defence only goes so far until you try arguing for monsters like the Giant Enemy Crab, which attacked the pair unprompted. Something like that plays utterly straight with the monsters' portrayal in the books, meaning a note should definitely be made on how some of these Beasts are just arseholes by nature (similar to certain animals). On that topic, the vilification of the Royals I feel is also leant into a bit too hard. It paints them as having orchestrated this whole conspiracy about all monsters being actively malevolent & deserving little more than wholesale slaughter, when it could just as likely be that they too are victims of the age-old tales and legends that have been perpetuated and extrapolated upon. Finally, the conclusion was definitively abrupt and could've used some smoothing out to tie up loose ends. What was the ultimate fate of the Royals? Is hunting outlawed proper or just moral taboo? What happened to Crowe and the rest of his crew? What of the Sea Witch's bargain? All we get is the rather absolute statement that "nobody sails the sea anymore", which is its own can of worms about the greater implications to the world, lives and livelihoods of a lot of characters. I do hope we get a follow-up to the film that extrapolates on these plot threads, themes and holes, be it an animated series or a sequel film.
The movie started out so strong but the characters became impulsive just to keep the plot going. Honestly I think it would have been badass if they kept to the original drive of beating the Royal battle ship in a race to capture a sea beast and keep the sea beasts as antagonists.
Me when I first watched it: Oh hey this ain't so bad- WAIT A MINUTE *proceeds to rant to my mother as to how this is completely unoriginal and is basically How to train your dragon but how to train your sea monster, and with hunters instead of vikings, sea beasts instead of dragons, and two protagonists instead of just one*
I really Liked this one. It felt Reminiscent of Disney and Dreamworks And of course Pirates of the Caribbean. I really Recommend it. However I do have one small Issue and that is [Spoilers] The finale Act Speech thing. It’s not that it conveys a bad message but, the lesson they’re trying to teach is a bit too complex for the world of the Story. Historic Revisionism, Elitism, Propaganda and so on. But since we spend so much time at sea we don’t quite get to SEE the effects and hold that the royals have over people. The greatest issue I can take with this movie is the Threat feels unfocused.
Ooooo Dreamworks DEFINITELY, some little shades of El Dorado in there! I do agree some more focus on the Royals themselves as being 'the bad guys' would have allowed more context and impact for their downfall
Lol great review, but you must not know Karl Urban. He's a kiwi and he is already very famous. He's been in Star wars, Thor Ragnorok, Riddick, and the MOST trendy superhero show, THE BOYS.
The most memorable line is "You can be hero and still be wrong." That just really blows me away, we tend to idealize those seen as heros but don't accept that they can also do wrong.
I did notice that, I also noted that Red had the same general head and eye shape - the overall movie deisgn was likely a deliberate nod to help endear us to the seas beasts as the world deisgn is so similar
I was so pleasantly surprised by this movie that I am inclined to actually love it. I didn't mind the subplot with the crown ship, because the main plot was just so well executed. I just can't shake a feeling that Red was just a red ocean Toothless. I get why she may have been designed like that. And it's working, because I love her.
enjoyed it a lot. Gonna get my kid to watch this next weekend. My only problem was it edged a bit too close to "how to train your dragon" but thankfully gained ground again with the idea of it's not about the narratives in the books, it's *who* wrote the narratives. Anyone who studies WW2 and knows about Rommel will entirely understand what I am talking about... he created his own aggrandized narrative through video, journals and all means he had at the time... it was so pervasive you will still get Twitter commentators heralding him as a tactical genius when... while a good commander, was not invincible and absolutely made massive tactical errors.
I'd say the best description for this film is that it's shallow, which I suppose is ironically fitting, considering the premise. Take the Royalty's secret for an example, it was an extremely predictable twist, and is far too surface level for it to be convincing; in order for a conspiracy that huge to be pulled off, many people in the government would have to be in on it, but there seems to be no royalty other than a king and queen, and the military is so easily convinced. I get that it's a children's cartoon so it can't be too complicated, but having the king and queen promote the conspiracy exclusively and have the child convince a whole civilisation that little effort isn't convincing, at least to me. One thing I've seen in the comments is people stating that the plot thread with the witch was never resolved, I disagree because Captain Crow _did_ lose everything by the end, she stated the truth completely and it doesn't really need to be stated out loud. Also this film throws logic out the window quite a bit. It can't have me believe that green monster in the beginning gets killed off by what is essentially a toothpick to them, or that no water enters the red bluster's nostril.
If you rematch the whole nostril thing, there's a membrane looking thing that covers the nostril and works as a window for the two main characters. You can see it peel away once red surfaces.
I think there are points int he movie could have been better; like near the end where Maisie talked about the empire's lie, she could have pointed out that if the sea beasts plucked maindens from the whatever veggy farms; then why isn't Red doing it now or there were no other recorded events of in the one in the book (after Jacob pointed out the destruction of the town that doesn't exst) has been happening or have been attempted. Also, it would have been better if the Imperator was actually a good hunitng ship, like it could kill the sea beasts around it before it could been attacked closely but is destroyed easily by Red just becaused it was in a weak spot near the shore. AND what happened to the poison that was injected to Red? It was supposed to be a poison strong enough to kill any beasts. There's more on the top of my mind but they're not too relevant. Still great of a movie that I enhoyed very much.
Yeah I think if you dug a lot deeper into the film you're bound to pick out some flaws and inconsistencies, but on the whole I enjoyed it very much also Renaway!
I dont think the poison was fully injected. The captain only injected enough to render it weak so that he could be the one to deliver the finishing blow.
I didn't get why the crown started hunting the beasts in the first place. It was shown the crown only collected the horns of the beasts from hunters while paying the hunters cash. But somehow the crown profited from this arrangement? Sending expensive ships off to fight non threatening creatures and paying crews for the privilege while not collecting any valuable resource (like whale oil and blubber) does not seem profitable. The hunters claimed in their song that they drove the beats back and enabled sea based trade, but if the beast were never a threat then that cannot be true, the crown would have been able to conduct sea based trade all along. From the facts presented I do not think we are given a true reason for the war to start? Trying to reverse engineer the cause for the war beyond a vaguely given "increase of power" would either be influence, money or territory. Like maybe the horns are insanely valuable in a foreign market the crown is selling them too that the hunters don't have access too or know of? Otherwise it could not have been a forgotten practice of harvesting the animals for resources as crews clearly don't do it in the present times but the crown is still profiting from the arrangement somehow. Gaining territory doesn't make sense either because the creatures weren't denying port access or blocking shipping routes, so killing them doesn't gain anything. Influence is a bit unclear, it may be possible to gain international political clout by having a bunch of sea beast horns displayed in your court? But that is a very dodge political climate if kingdoms influence and power and determined by trophies unrelated to actual resource and land conquest, like armies and technology. My conclusion is that the original conflict seems to have not been able to have occurred within the context that the film provides, and only exists for the purpose of the plot twist, which is a bit of a shame and it would have taken less than 30 seconds for a line to be dropped about the kingdoms wealth coming from a resource the dead creatures provide to oppose the falsehood of them blocking ports and raiding towns. TL'DR: Plothole? No contextually valid reason for the beasts to be hunted in the first place if they were so peaceful.
@@rhyswall1354 Hi! These are great observations. Hmmmm just my two cents. Monarchy or Empires work by using the imagined community of providing safety. If people think that they are in constant fear, they would turn to to the leadership of the monarchy for that “safety,” thus solidifying the existence of monarchy. In turn, people lived as subjects of the empire in exchange of the safety provided by the monarchy. In addition, it was said that fear alone has had an impact to the trade. Hence, being able to drive the monsters away signify the increasing power of the monarch.
Many people say it's just how to train your dragon but I like the sea beast more it brings more history to it and instead of a village protecting themselves it's a village actively hunting these creatures and sacrificed a lot of people even the main characters parents I felt there was more weight behind this than httyd
One thing I love is the dialogue. I'm not a monster hunter (obviously) but I'm from the North of England and my speech pattern and vocab is very similar to the one used in the film. It felt like they were speaking my 'language'. Especially terms like 'bollocksing it up' , 'aye' and 'me' instead of 'my'. I also love how it's dark and doesn't shy away from more adult themes like murder, alcohol and death.
Just started the video but we needed more on the world of hunters and the royalty. We needed more world building to further pollish the experience. Like, imaging the story of the monsters attacking on shore, what if they flipped the roles and it was really the royals who drove them from their homes, and the monsters fought back? Or more details on the rivalry with crow and the admiral? Or maybe the admiral deciding to blow the competition out of the water, and the inevitable taking advantage of how sluggish it is. And why didn't the poison finish of red?
Some highlights of the film for me: 1. Lighting backdrops of the red monster and the Inevitable. Seeing the red sails in a misty light, or a red shadow under the seas is visually striking, and really cool. This movie knows how to use the color red. 2. The message. “Even heroes can be wrong” is such a powerful message, especially considering the inspirations for this story like actual whaling practices. 3. Admiral Hornagold. This man is such a caricature of Horatio Hornblower, and as a fan of the true admiral, it was funny to watch him fail.
The movie surprised me. It was a classic tale but well done. The animation was very good and the story telling also worked. And I like the art style! But I have one big gripe: The ending. Crow wasnt paying and bailed the big purchase. This felt inconsequential. One could say "well, he paid the amount he was charged" but it felt weak with that kind of interpretation. Also I felt that some characters are a bit underused, like Sharpe for example. The entire crew of the main ship seems to only stay in the background, except when they have to spit one or two lines out. And maybe Jacob should have talked to the crowd to convince them. As a hunter, who is laying down his weapon, he has more weight than a little child. The used way could interpretated as a "gretainian way", which I dont like that much (/if you want to see it that way) A bit sad. But heck, it is a kids movie. So I guess I cant expect that much from it
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Leinad! Yes there were several character and general plots threads that were onluy briefly picked up or not picked up at all, and not resolved, I was happy to let em go under the depths due to enjoying the ride :)
I do think Red deserved a better design. The movie should’ve been a little longer. We should’ve got more history on Red. I don’t wanna keep bringing up HTTYD, but the way Hiccup studied Toothless is what I kinda expected with Red and Maise. Not that she really could, since one resides in the sea and one on land.
Well lots of my critism already been said by people in the comment section. One thing I notice was that in the Epilogue said that for the peace to happen the human stop sailing Dregmorr Sea basically isolating themselves and cutting off any port and colony. Like if Peace was happening then human would be free to sail wherever they want without getting attack and vice versa with the Sea monster. If it really a peace then why does it seams like a lost? What stoping people from exploring the sea again? If they do due that mean they are free rain for the beast to attack them? Like seriously why did they have to not sale anymore? If they wanted to go with peace with monster route they could have had it that we are show a scene with the exHunter using their sea beast knowledge to help people avoid issue with the sea beast. Have the old captain be like a Sea Beast tour guide using his knowledge to show people the sea beasts. Have the Royal get Awe by a Majestic Sea Beast sight. Have the guy and the kid decided to dedicate their lives to learning more about the sea beast so human and Sea beast can get along.
When watching this film, it reminded me of the old days when most cartoons were good, a lot of modern cartoons are bland, unoriginal or milked, but this film stood out with memorable funny scenes and references that you don't often see in modern cartoon films, this feels like the sort of film that fit well in the era where we saw shrek for the first time, an odd sense of Nostalgia for a film that is new.
Another big plus for this movie was its attention to detail. Just listening to some of the scenes, you hear so much naval phrases, even with the flintlocks, it has them being at full cock, with the flint hitting the frizzen, causing sparks to shoot into the pan, with a very short delay before the gun fires
My only complaints I had that I recall was how fast Maisie had a turn of heel for Red and how the whole poison thing went down. First off, I’m FINE with Maisie having befriended Red, but honestly I felt she needed just a touch more cook time in learning that. She should have been terrified of Ref on the beach and taken the chance to run with Jacob into the forest while Red retreated for a time. Then Maisie meets Blue- and it’s at that point she has a turn of heel. Not just because it’s a baby, but implied that it’s going to become a beast like Red someday- Blue introduces her to the idea and solidifies it by bringing her to Red, whom she is at first afraid of- but seeing a tiny baby play in its presence as well as notices that Red Is entirely being chill- THATS when it hits her reflecting even to their last encounter. Red wasn’t trying to hurt them. Idk. Just an idea. And the poison- did they cover that in the film because- pretty sure the big deal in that whole situation was SHE WAS DYING. I was like where’s the antidote?! How are they gonna save her- and then…. Swam out to sea and is ok. Um-? Yay but- what?? Nitpicks on my part- it’s been a hot min since I last watched it Ngl- but those are my grievances that I remember. Otherwise this was a fantastic movie, beautiful to look at, awesome creature designs and the characters for the vast majority I felt were believable. I recall seeing Red staring from the depths and thinking, “OH! So THATS thalassaphobia!”
I hate how they didn’t explore the backstory more of characters and things such as why the girl can be nice with the creature and they just said “hey, animals are exist”
In my opinion this movie was AMAZING! The details in the animation were great as well although I did wish that they explained who exactly the witch was. We only learnt about how "dishonorable" it was by working alongside Batterbie as a hunter, however they lacked explaining why it was. It felt like she could've been such an interesting villain or at least a way to shine more history on the hunters, but it feels like they also just added her in the story for side character plot that wasn't shined on enough. Overall the movie was great as said before, just wish that there were some things that they could've explained a tad more about.
The witch said “the weapon will cost him everything” and in the end he truly lost everything. The witch didn’t give them a lethal dosis, she wanted all this to happen. She wanted them to bring red in front of the palace and expose everything. So in the end the captain was unnecessary for the world, he lost respect, his son, his crew, his job, his legacy and maybe his faith too. He really paid the price
My initial impression with a Admiral called HORNIGOLD who historically sold out the Pirate Republic of Nassau to the British was gonna try and wipe out the Hunters. Hell even Captain Crow berates how his ship is built, not fit for hunting monsters, stationary cannons and so on... Almost like the Imperator was built for ship-to-ship combat, something the Inevitable is not. Though I suppose that may be cranking up the violence-factor a tad too much and distract from the films message. I liked it a lot! Great action, visuals, satisfying character arcs and themes. Though the end message makes the film significantly less cooler, even HTTYD managed to squeeze in a few evil dragons here and there. I'm also not a fan of teaching the audience that nature (the beasts) acts with human sensibilities and felt making the beasts a bit more closer to animals with their own needs and instincts while recognizing our own would have provided a more... balanced message? Great film anywho, highly recommend!
Hearing you mentioned the Admiral subplot made me laugh at loud, because when I first watched the movie, the minute I saw the royal ship, I blurted "I forgot that thing existed", lmao.
I was a bit disappointed when they didn't keep fighting the beasts at the end but I guess thats just because I'm a 15 year old that just wants some epic action sequences. Probably best they got the good morality going instead.
Have you seen Love, Death, and Robots? That's got some amazing action sequences stunningly animated! I think it's R18(?) though, or maybe R16, so would depend on what your parents are okay with, but I watched it with my kids and we all loved it!! Just had to cover their eyes in some of the more "adult" moments lol
@@epicdragon409 type 'love death robots season 1 explicit trailer' into youtube and you'll see everything you need to see to know if you want to watch it or not. That trailer alone literally rocked my world!! :D Season 3 trailer is also amazing (and that one has a sea monster story). It's some of the greatest animation ever made (so far) - with amazingly weird, often very violent stories :D
I feel like red design could of been more badass. but I do love the and agree with your points. this movie has a lot of loss end plot points like the big ship you see halfway in the movie i think
Beautiful story, even more wonderful message. I hope everyone will see far enough as the plot can show, if not even more. My 3 and a half year daughter recommended this movie to me, anticipating its moral lesson, and I’m so thankful. Children have pure hearts
I had heard about this movie and wanted to see it but didn’t have a Netflix account (not gonna pay the $17 a month to see 1 movie). So I got my cousin who has an account to watch it with me. The only thing I knew going in is that it was similar to How to Train your Dragon, which is one of my favorite franchises. Safe to say I thought this movie was fantastic, not perfect but very very solid. I loved how they actually killed one of the beasts in the beginning, and it’s overall mature feel, some of the shots were absolutely gorgeous, to name a couple: -The opening where lightning strikes and you can see the half sunken ship through the water -Where Jacob & Maisie get flung off the Inevitable and then get face to face with the Red Bluster (seriously one of the most terrifying shots I’ve seen in cinema) -When Red slices the Imperator in half and then stands over the wreckage through the fire & smoke I have similar complaints but they don’t really take away from the experience imo and they leave enough room for a potential sequel. While I consider the 1st HTTYD movie to be near perfection, I think The Sea Beast gets a very respectable 8/10. I only wish it would be put on DVD so I can have a physical copy.
Frankly, I didn't have great expectations going into it, but I ended up loving it. True, the 'race' wasn't fleshed out, but the destruction of the warship was a satisfactory finish to that micro-arc. What really did surprise me was the wisdom shown by Maisie, specifically the part about books outliving us. Additionally, the quick affection of the Bluster to the main characters, especially after all the years of hunting was a bit much, although clearly necessary for the progression of the plot. The detail and relative accuracy put into the function and navigation of the sailing ships was very much appreciated, as that is almost always overlooked in films about or containing sailing vessels. Overall, 9/10 stars, would watch again. Well done.
How it should have ended: The hunters are replaced with explorers and scientists. They research the seabeasts and their living behaviors. Knowledge is gained and passed on for generations and humanity becomes comfortable with these animals and the animals used to humans. (the relationship between humans and whales today. If humanity never bothered to learn more about whales, the future generations would've still been scared of them, because there is always fear of the unknown.) There's an "I love you, kiddo." "I love you too, dad". Scene, 'cause she never called him dad even though they were hinting at the adoption convo having closure
I really enjoyed this movie. I wish the woman at the end said 'Aye' instead of 'let it go'. The same woman that jacob paid to take maisie from the bar. Would've made me laugh so hard
god I loved this movie. It's an interesting tightrope walk between candy-colored fun and a very genuine action film, and I think they strike the balance well.
I was so impressed with this movie!! And it being from Netflix I had low expectations! But it’s like you said, I was immediately drawn in at the beginning and it was so action packed and fun! I love the gorgeous animation and the character relationships. The relationship between captain crow and Jacob is really neat, along with the relationship between Jacob and Maisie. Ten out of ten from me. It was fantastic!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, the plot, the animation, the beasts, and most importantly, the characters. In some movies (not all), the characters, sometimes, just don't feel "right." But in this movie, they're perfect. Solid 10/10 from me. Although, there could have been more beasts, but that's just a personal nitpick.
mine was how to train your monster hunter. especially when they took the horn. but i like both dragon and monster hunter, so thats a good thing for me to call it.
Honestly, I love it, but simultaneously it feels like a couple big chunks were taken out to streamline it, and yet without compromising the quality of the main plot. It feels like they wanted desperately to give more screentime to the subplots, but ultimately had to drop them.
I feel like it set up a lot of things. the ending stated they no longer went beyond in the sea. which I view as a mistake. have them go into the unknown. have them go on adventures. learn about the creatures. discover what happened to the Monarch, or the admiral and what he took from his encounter with Red. it's a wonderfully rich world and the Inevitable is a gorgious ship. I wish to see more of it and watch the character go out at sea with a new perspective
Love the movie, great story. I know this takes away from the message of the story but the creatures were to well designed I would totally enjoy a pre-peace era game where you play as a hunter and you work with others to take out the various sea creatures like monster hunter but out at sea and on a boat.
this is one of my favorite animated movies EVER, actually! it's just SO vibrant and fun and exciting, the dialogue is stellar and really funny and impactful without coming off as corny or forced, every character gets a moment to shine, and don't even get me started on the animation because that will take ALL day. but the character designs, the symbolism, the use of color and lighting - my only REAL criticism is with the beast designs, like red, blue, and the yellow creatures - i thought they all came off as way too... cartoony, in a setting that's almost photorealistic in its detail. they look kind of like plastic toys and it DOES sort of negatively impact the immersion, but tbh i can forgive it. this movie is SO much fun
I loved the movie being a sea monster fan and pirate fan. However, I wish they didn't make the Red Bluster so Toothless like. We needed more scenes like the start where they fought the Prickleback. Great movie, 10/10 👍
Gwen Batterbie says to Captain Crow that the cost for the Hand of God is “everything”. Later, in front of the huge crowd, Captain Crow attempts to kill Red with the lancer but is stopped by Jacob. Distraught because of Jacob’s betrayal, the two engage in a sword fight, then Crow yells to Jacob ,”I gave you everything”. Crow’s lost Jacob, the son-like figure who he intended to take over as captain of his ship and continue his legacy of hunting.
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when red first met Massie and Jacob underneath the water i got chills lol, i thought it was so creepy and honestly so good. I loved watching Red's emotions be conveyed without needing to give her a voice.
That part where Red's face just backs off into the darkness of the ocean was MEGA creepy
When Jacob and massie were underwater and red was staring at them in the wide shot view it was creepily cool. And then we zoom in to red sinking into the abyss from the two of them. Gosh it was just so creepy I loved it
that scene was some thalassophobia shit.
Big facts! I was scared shitless. The was an amazing composition.
lol Red's eye rolls and judging eyes towards Jacob are so hilarious.
My main criticism is that they could’ve put more detail into the main sea beast. I think the green one from the beginning of the film looked much better
Even the purple crab as well looked much better
SO TRUE compared to the other beast in the film-The Red bluster looks so underwhelming and my friend said “Another Lightfury but red seal” 💀
Also the concept design of it-so much better
Maybe made it an albino brickback to show that ugly carnivorous creatures aren’t evil
That was my main criticism as well because Red's simplicity felt so out of place with how much detail every other character and beast had.
I was really impressed with the particle physics in this movie. The water, explosions, dust, ect. Like you said, it was strange to see something so realistic beside a cartoon, but I didn’t hate it. Your synopsis was excellent too.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and kind response Bobby!
I absolutely loved this movie. Shows that legends aren't always stories to live by; they're just that, legends.
LOVED that side of it, and just because someone's a hero, it doesn't mean they're right!
@@UnleashTheGhouls Funny how Lightyear is less spectacular but on the theaters while this movie is on Netflix. This should have been in theaters as it has visual graphics fitting for the silver screen. The exotic locations, the texture, and the grand scale worldliness.
I thought you were me
"No one is born with hate, we are taught how to hate " a reality that still plagues our world today...
Brilliant quote
This doesn't make any sense, look at little children, nobody taught them to fight each other in the kindergarten for ownership of a particular toy, yet they still do it. It is just simply in human nature.
@@tamas9554 no it’s not? As they grow they watch and copy others. We are shown to hate. Not by nature, only when our survival is threatened but no. We are taught to hate.
@@tamas9554 exactly; the monster were never evil, it’s just that our human greed eventually lead us to fight them for their marine territory
Nah, even babies are racist. You ever heard of the doll experiment?
The only real complaints i have about the sea beast is Red Blister's design, as the supposed center of the movie it lacks uniqueness, in franchise like Monster Hunter, the flagship monster always carry a design that stands out from the rest, there's nothing in the red blister's design that separates it from the other beast,
but aside from that its a good movie, go watch it if you haven't
Yeah I think that the design of the creatures drawn on the maps was really cool, and I think I'd have preferred them being in that style than the cute style they went for!
I thought so too. The rest of the movie kept me hooked so I can ignore it but it would be nice to have a more unique design. Some uniqueness was probably sacrificed to make the design more streamlined and easier to turn into a product to make more money like what Disney does 🙄
@@ellemilsomart i feel like its a bit of an oxymoron to make your character less unique with the intent of making merchandise and goodies out of it, an IP is only as strong as its identity, and in this case, characters, i can't even remember what the red blister looks like 2 hours after watching the movie, and when you make one of the center point of your movie unrecognisable, people won't buy your merch, because they have no idea who's who.
And of course the eventual comparison to how to train your dragon is imminent, so i'm just gonna put that here, everyone knows who Toothless is after they watch the movie, not only because of his design, but also because they added segments that aid us to know him better, like his first interaction with hiccup and human in general.
So i don't think that this is a choice that they made as a mean of financial gain, this is a design choice, and like every design choice, we won't get the full context until the designer explained what lead to red blister's final design and what purpose does it serve.
@@bigboss8647 haha i just skimmed thru that. That makes sense. What I did mean to say though is that big movie production companies (illumination, disney, dreamworks) like to play it safe nowadays to have as broad of an audience as possible. Just a simple, easily digestable animation that can appeal to every family.
Agreed! The green beast from the beginning of the film looked much better, the design of red felt like it was meant to sell toys
Hands down the best animated feature to come out in a long time. The characters were excellent, the animation was technically amazing, visually breathtaking and just a delight to watch. The dialogue was absolutely wonderful! I loved, loved, loved the characters. Each had their own unique personality, shape and hardness that you just don't see anymore.
Too many characters in films are just designated background troupes, there to instill morals or feelings for the main character but without any individuality. This film was different. Each character felt like it could decide to walk out of the film and continue having an amazing story and life all on their own. Overall just awesome and I can't wait to see more from the directors/writers/animators and all. Well done and great review!!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts in this amazing comment Mar Mai!
Yes u see the same film as me. I agree with all your thoughts on the amazing colourful and thought provoking film.
Good movie, but it needed more beasts. Like, they coulda included another half dozen big beasts to make the creatures seem more diverse and terrifying.
That's also true! I did find the shot of Red underwater backing off into the ocean's depths was mortifying!
Idk why but this is the first movie in a while to make me feel like a kid again. Just a pretty good story and amazing animation is fucking insane
You're goddamn right!
Though I did enjoy the experience of this film with my family, I do feel it was let down by weak plot-points and loose story threads. You already mentioned the competition pitting hunters versus the navy, which came to nothing. The first fight with the green beast has Captain Crow dragged down into the depths in a very dramatic moment. We don't see how he survives or how that beast is defeated. He opens his eyes and that's that. Feels like there was a deleted scene missing there. It seems the near-death experience made the Captain aware of his own mortality. He speaks of succession, and chooses to rest from the pursuit for a while. This tells me the missing scene was important. Then there was the faustian deal made with the witch and the dreaded consequence of that deal, contemplated by the crew for all of ten seconds before being forgotten and never being an issue again. I also feel an injustice was done to Captain Crow. Here's a character that was capable of love, loyalty, honor, generosity and bravery, respected and revered, who was turned into the main villain of the story without a chance at redemption. Keep in mind he was initially more understanding of Massie than Jacob was. He was willing to turn from his obsessive pursuit to help another ship because of an honor code. Yes, he turned on Massie and later Jacob, but that was because he saw their actions as traitorous and a betrayal, not just of him, but everything they were as hunters. He almost took on the admiral for the same reason. Jacob had his chance at redemption. Captain Crow was never given that chance. Perhaps the writers tried to steer away from a storyline which would have made it too similar to "How to Train Your Dragon" but then they should've set up the character of Crow differently. There's enough loose threads to be able to continue into a sequel in which case my guess at a storyline would be that the witch comes to collect her dues which may threaten the lives of Jacob and Massie. In a final act of courage Captain Crow sacrifices himself to save them, thus earning his redemption.
Yes definitely some bits and pieces of plot threads that weren't all that tight enough, nonetheless I was fine excusing them cos I had a fun ride! :)
I don’t think that a scene is missing; it’s more powerful that we don’t know how the captain survived (probably just floated unconsciously upwards after the beast finally died).
In the same way we never get told what actually had happened to the Monarch. It is more powerful that everyone just fell silent.
And the consequence of the faustian deal *is* the lack of redemption. Crow has lost everything, as predicted by the witch.
I’m amazed how much this movie captures the feel of old Hollywood pirate movies in technicolor 😃
Yeah this film was a let down!! Was dope first then Maise came along with her sympathy
If you go back and rewatch you will notice that when the Captain was dragged down, Jacob was still under water. He wa still close enough to cut the captain loose.And Jacob is the first face the Captain sees when he wakes up. So its obvious he saved the Captain.
@@jorgmintel3060 if you paid attention you will see how the Captain survived.
I loved this movie. It has great characters, great dynamic between the mains, and the animations/ design of the world is gorgeous! I can easily see people writing fanfic and roleplays into this world, and I'd actually love another movie in this world, past or future, even if it's not necessary.
A movie set in The Dark Times could be incredible!
I would LOVE a show of it
So basically Pokémon but on steroids . Cool idea man
@@Bake-kurijra lmao
Mobster hunter is literally that but instead your hunting them
I believe the movie’s ending was quite bad. Why? Well there’s hundreds of years of hunting and everyone’s willing to immediately give it up. I would also mention how the kid has absolutely no proof of her claims, but everyone goes with what she said.
There is a definite sudden nature to the ending there, you're quite right Gifting!
even if people stop hunting it wont stop the monsters from attacking, which makes it a half-assed and ultimately ineffectual ceasefire.
I mean they saw the monster spare the captains life and that humans rode off on it both things they thought impossible
The monster stopped when she said “no”… I think that’s more than enough proof and also like everything overtime people will stop hunting
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 The Sea beast attacking BACK cuz the humans hunted them. The Sea Beast was just fighting back, now when the human will stop hunt them there is no reason for the Sea Beast to FIGHT BACK. Even Maisie explain that in her speech at the end of the film.
Have to admit when they showed the admiral's ship, I knew that the imerperial force wouldn't be an issue. My first thought was there were too many cannons and the ship would be low in the water making it slow, and immediately captain crow said my thoughts. The ship would be shredded in the first fight it encountered, so I was right. I didn't expect it to take the turn the story did and it was a very good message that I think really needs to be talked about these days. You can be a hero and still be wrong. I encounter people who say things like "George Washington owned slaves, so he's evil" and basically all the good he did do was nullified. It was a unique message, and I loved it.
I also loved the length. I loved the pacing as it didn't feel rushed and took its time fleshing things out properly. My problem with Moana was that the first half had great pacing and building and once she leaves the island it felt super rushed and destroyed the movie for me so much that I kind of hate the movie. I do not consider 2 hours long. But I can also sit through 20 episodes of NAruto in one sitting so.... take that as it will.
Amazing response! Thank you for sharing your thoughts Alpha!
actually there are a few references, that giant ship for example is in my opinion a nod to either the spanish ship of line Santísima Trinidad or the british HMS Victory with both having some ridicilious amount of cannons... also when they encountere all the eggs on the iland there was an alien reference... which came a bit unexpected tbh xD
When I saw the admiral's ship, I also knew it was a terrible ship to fight sea monsters. Like what captain crow said the cannons are in fixed locations and are basically worthless, in fact they would only be useful if a sea beast was on land or up above the water, and even then, red was able to just plow right threw it. As for the hunter's ships, they were fast, compact, and had multiple places to attack from, even close to the water. The royal ship will only have 2 uses; to parade around and show other countries their strength, and to fight other humans.
@@adrynseidl2507 Idk much about ships, why would the fixed cannons be a bad thing, why would the ship be too low in the water and why's that a bad thing?
@@ReblazeGaming fixed cannons are probably bad against such creatures since the creature can just attack from behind or the front, where the cannons cannot face. In reality of course, that wouldnt matter, a giant sea beast could just break any ships keel without ever surfacing and sink any vessel easily without fearing retaliation no matter how the guns can rotate.
I agree about the admiral v hunters subplot being a missed opportunity, I also didn't like how the plot with Gwen went nowhere. They built up the idea of Crow giving up "everything" for the weapon and yet nothing happens :/ I'm assuming she gets his ship and crew? Does he die? What did the moving tattoos around his neck have to do with anything?! It didn't need to be a big thing, since she was merely a way to get a weapon, but it felt like there was more to it and then "well NVM then".
Also Crows idea of bringing the creature alive didn't make sense minus the point of keeping Red alive for the ending moral. He didn't promise to bring it back alive, yet he says he did and that's why he doesn't let the poison finish the beast first....and then they waste the rest of the poison, that again Crow had to give EVERYTHING for, and toss it into the water.
There were good things, it's not a terrible movie, but I feel they really missed the ball. It had the chance to really tie everything together and hit a little harder. It's average for me sadly :(
He gave everything because he lost everything after the last palace scene
@@-mordecayyy6581 Not quite... Everything should be expressly expressed (pun intended) not implied.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I think the idea of Crow only pumping enough poison to incapacitate the Red Bluster was twofold.
1. To allay the Royals' erroneous preconceptions about the beasts (the same ones that led to the construction of the admiral's comically flawed ship) by presenting them a live one as opposed to a skeleton.
2. So that Crow was the one to deal the killing blow to the Bluster by his hands - the same monster what killed his own father and thus enflamed his lifelong vendetta against it.
IMO you misinterpreted the "great life, great death" motto. It's used from the very beginning to show how there's something creepy about the propaganda that Maisie eats up: she wants to live a great life (as a heroic hunter) but also die a great death (fighting the beasts). It's a death cult mindset, in which dying a hero is the *goal*, something to aspire to. They keep repeating it through the movie, but at the very end instead she only says "live a great life", and nothing about death: she's decided the important thing is living happily, not dying in battle.
Amazing breakdown and a brilliant interpretation of the phrase!
Sea Beast should become everyones’ new feel good favorite movie. It has everything, rescue, adoption growth and repeat but in an unpredictable way. I laughed out loud, I cheered for the captain “now” and the captain “soon”, the future daughter and all the new friends made on the journey and yes I definitely shed a tear or two. Mostly tears for all the lost times where we could have had great movies like this without fear of backlash from those who weren’t ready for reality on the silver screen.
I loved everything about this movie!
Except the ending line.
I really think that line was the opposite of what was attempting to be portrayed. And I believe this movie messed up where HTTYD went right.
I've lived in multiple places that are absolutely dominated by nature. Alaska and rural Hawaii being the most notable. People in California and in cities tend to think the best way to interact with nature is to donate to a nature charity, and to maybe take a walk in the park, but never interact with wild animals, never help wild animals, and don't indulge in that "wilderness" because it's "untouchable", because they'll get "too used to humans".
We are apart of nature. We are not separate from it. This movie had a great chance to transition into how the ships now sail the seas researching about the creatures that are basically whales. Humanity didn't shy away from whales and never explore the ocean again, we took the time to learn about them and learning about the beings we share this planet with is crucial to gaining empathy. You won't have real empathy for an animal you've only ever seen on the screen.
I've touched and felt dolphins, but I've never touched or seen a whale up close before. That's one of my main goals. I find the ending line of this movie to be disappointing, because we as a race should be encouraging eachother to grow more curious and care more about the animals we share this planet with, not detach ourselves. If we detach, then the only human interaction nature will ever receive are deforesters and sport hunters.
I believe humans are so different with extreme intelligence and evolution, but sometimes we waste the potential of helping nature and wild animals by believing we aren't wild ourselves. We are wild. And we are smart, and we are capable of being the middle bridge of understanding between two species and empathy across hundreds of species; not just dogs and cats.
I see a snail, and I see a life worth saving. I see a bear, and I see a mom scolding her kids. It is so, so important to see the soul in animals, not for just conservation reasoning, but it's because you are missing out on such a huge opportunity when you are born onto this vast and mysterious planet but don't look outside of humanity.
Emotions existed long before humans.
Brilliant analysis, really enjoyed reading this one Cryppi! Thank you for sharing! :D
I feel like the movie wanted to go in that direction but ran out of time in telling it.
After Maisie and Jacob find themselves in the mouth of Red, Maisie asks all of these questions about the beast that Jacob doesn’t know the answers to because he’s spent his whole life hunting them, not studying them. And then continues with “maybe it’s time to start”.
The main conflict that needed resolving was that the royals convinced the public that the sea beats were nothing but monsters that needed to be eradicated, creating the Hunters. These animals obviously learned to retaliate against their attacks to the point where any ship that they see is perceived to be an immediate threat. And this is centuries worth of damage. Red was practically paralyzed with rage at seeing a ship that was simply docking until one of the men spotted her, shot her out of fear, and that’s what pushed her to attack.
It is better to understand these creatures than to hunt them, but these are still very dangerous animals that have their own territory to protect, and they will defend it with all of their power. Ships passing through will always run the risk of being attacked.
In HTTYD, the dragons were more akin to flying wolves, predators that would steal the livestock of humans (because penned animals made for an easy meal) to feed themselves and their Queen but would otherwise stay within their own territory. Humans were obviously opposed to this, and began fighting back, thus creating a continuous conflict between dragons and people. And much like how ancient wolves learned to develop a codependent relationship with humans, hiccup found that the dragons could be domesticated, which became a relationship that benefited both parties well as dragons no longer had to steal livestock and risk getting killed for it.
Maisie and Jacob built a bond with two sea monsters, they got lucky that Red was so understanding and that Blue was just a baby. Additionally, they came to learn that not only are these creatures not inherently vicious but that humans drew first blood and continued to hunt these creatures within their own territory based on centuries of lies. For the time being, the best course of action after coming to the decision to stop the hunting would be to leave these creatures alone.
that, combined with the fact that the end morale was basically just "hunting bad, monsters good. humans should stay on land."
whilst a lot more relevant when it comes to our impact on nature with our advanced technology, the situation in a world like this would be naturally severely different, and sea beasts would have been the equivalent of large cats like lions, tigers and jaguars, animals that are not only dangerous but have a history of specifically seeking out human targets.
I dont think the movie ever hinted at the idea that trading or cargo vessels may have been struck by sea beasts, thus further invigorating the war itself.
Great review I absolutely loved Sea Beast.
Just finished watching it and honestly it was a solid 9/10 for me, I think it was a little long but the length gave it time to breath and we get to see more of the characters.
I think this is a movie I will come back to every so often.
Thank you for your kind words and sharing your thoughts Flare!
I think that the line “Live a great life; die a great death” is actually a motto of the villains. It says that heroism is defined by bold actions, but as the movie shows, there are many ways to be a hero without dying. Jacob is the best hero when he is saving others’ lives, not risking them for the sake of greatness. He and Maisie actually end the story living long, safe, happy lives.
I'm pleasantly surprised that the nobody died in the movie, especially Captain Crow. I was 100% expecting him and the crew to die after that witch scene. But they didn't. There was no following that trope of killing off people for their evil choices or terrible mistakes. Which is good! I'm glad the crew still gets to live out their futures, but Crow lost everything as in: public respect, his crew's respect, his son, his potential granddaughter, and what will he do now?
I really did like the first half of the movie, I really did, it had so many moments that harkened back to stories like Moby Dick with a mix of themes of peace and coexistence, but when it came to near and at the end it felt like the way the things they were talking about and saying as lessons turned the whole movie into a massive allegory and that kinda ruined it for me. Lessons are important but the way some of them were implemented didn't feel like they melded well with parts of the story.
On a different note, I was personally hoping for a scene where Crow and Jacob realize, through Crow's journal, that the reason Jacob's ship was destroyed by a sea beast was because Crow drove the sea beast into it during a hunt without realizing. That would have had a good message of how it can be too easy to shift the blame on someone due to situations that can't be controlled, whether it be a sunk ship, or a lost deadlight.
Oooooo that second paragraph idea is WEIGHTY. That would have really hammered home an excellent point!
Definitely Moby Dick vibes with the harpoons and the vengeful captain.
i honestly this was just gonna be the average netflix movie but i actually thoroughly enjoyed it. the maisie character was kinda annoying in my opinion but it was still pretty awesome
Thank you sharing your thoughts Pugu! :)
over-enthusiastic kid characters do be like that.
I found Maisie a bit insufferable, the modern trope of a main character who can do nothing wrong (she never makes an incorrect decision) so it felt like she never learnt or grew as a character. Other characters saw good development though and the animation banged
She almost got Jacob and herself killed several times and was a typical troublemaking kid, how is she not flawed? She wasn't perfect at all lmao, that's what made her endearing.
Did we watch the same character?
The key word here is “almost.” Weaknesses only have weight if there are consequences. In addition, it isn’t her childish trouble making that almost gets them killed, but rather her apparently instinctual moral knowledge of what the right thing to do was. She supposedly grew up fed the lies of a death cult and living a great life and great death. But when push comes to shove, she instantly throws all that away without any real reason. But the worst part about it is she’s right. It turns out that this monster that was going to kill them all just a scene ago is actually misunderstood, and willing to rescue two of the people who were just trying to kill it. People who have been hunting it it’s whole life! I don’t know if you’ve ever run into any carnivores in real life, but this is far from typical animal behavior.
TLDR She doesn’t have a reason for any of her actions outside of finding a monster cute, and she’s still right about everything
One of the best movie so far.
The part when Maisie confronted and exposed the royals. As soon as she screamed "I have every right" well the subtitles kinda spoiled me first lol but as soon as I read I immediately CRIED bc I felt her pain thru those words b4 she even said it and I was SOOO proud of her for fighting back, as always. She did mention about the people have lost in the battles as in general which is good bc if they had scripted to mention her dead parents first idk how many days I will be crying. Overall imo the movie was PERFECT
I think part of the reason I cried sm was bc, most movies and films I've seen all of them just got defeated in an argument. So when the king was yelling his fking stinky breath I was so mad and literally wanted to punch my phone but then she fought back. Just makes you think, even an ordinary child can stand up to some royal idiots and wins.
Amazing breakdown Satya!
My only real frustration is the loss of the "Adventure" feel at the end. The hunters hunt the beasts to be sure, but they never came back to Crow's idea of having Jacob see what was even farther out there. They never resolved the "deal" with the evil witch lady either. and all of it just feels like a flat ending because it feels like a failure to finish/continue the adventure. There are also moments that show that there are clearly 2 levels of beasts in the movie. 1 being the far more passive beasts like Red, and that there are very agressive and hostile beasts like the crab monster. and a fitting end would be to "Research" the differences and help to more accurately solve the problems posed by the beasts to begin with.
My Wife and I both threw out a couple of ideas that could have been more fulfilling endings (our opinions.) And the one we like the most was a reconstructed Inevitable sailing side by side with Red as they explore deeper into the unknown.
It does feel like they had a lot of ideas for this movie and It is really sad to me that so much could be cut entirely and absolutely no impact would be had on the story. (the Chase, and the evil Island lady are significant time wasters that only pad the runtime)
Fantastic movie. It took a slightly edgier approach for an animated film which I really admired. It didn't stray away from intense moments like crew members getting snatched up, or guns being used, and it really used Thalassophobia (fear of the ocean) to its advantage.
The fight scenes were top notch and the music scores made me want to put on a captains hat and throw back a pint.
Animation was superb.
Monster designs I liked. Red Bluster gave me a bit of a Toothless (How To Train Your Dragon) vibe, but I still felt they were able to separate the two beasts very well.
Overall, Id give this movie a 9/10.
Amazing review Kat, so happy you enjoyed it a lot! :D
For me I disagree with the soundtrack. There weren’t that many memorable pieces compared to movies like HTTYD or kung fu panda like tai lungs theme or even Kai’s. Overall I still loved the film. Just wish it wasn’t too predictable. Not as predictable as lightyear tho lol
The only problem I had with this movie was how bland Red's design was, I think they could have made Red's design more unique and detailed like the monster at the start and the green monster they first fight--
Honestly! When the tentacle split it was so cool! I want that one instead 😭
Yeah I think that the creatures perhaps could have been more detailed like the rest of the world was
Wtf you onto, sea monsters don’t have to be over detailed lmao, look at Red’s textures and you can definitely see the details on it
very true but shes bassicaly like a giant red whale sea dragon so she has to be able to cut through the ocean
I particularly liked the crab Red fought. It was threatening to look at. Red on the other hand aint so creepy when upclose. Ig it is a movie directed to child audiences, but i think if i were a kid id love a scary monster whos acrually a sweetheart.
I really really loved this movie and her speech at the end made me cry. I LOVED how they pulled in the rewriting of false history to profit
Wife and I weren't impressed. I feel like nobody knows how to write hardship anymore because most writers today haven't actually experienced it. Even for a kids movie the writing seems too simplistic and bland.
I hope you and your wife's next watch is a good one! Thank you for sharing your experience!
Well thats one heck of an assumption, mate
Its honestly really fuckin good that they did another movies in the era of pirates, besides than POTC no movie pirates is actually that interest, so much potential for the pirates era, they did a good job executing this
captain dud says "only if we kill it" then got a powerful poison and weapon from a witch for a price of "everything" then decide he has made a promise to the king and queen so spares it for the end then the "everything" price of the witch was not added in
Wym? He literally lost everything. His crew deserted him, his son left him, hunting is no longer a priority and he's basically lost the one purpose he's had for his entire life.
I'm surprised the Red Bluster didn't die especially after Captain Crow made a deal with a witch to make a strong enough poison to insta kill it yet no so this shows the red Bluster has a strong immune system
plot demanded they take the huge dart out, instead of leavin it in bluster
@@GDSK09 It's literally a part of the story, sarah tells him they shouldn't remove it but crow wants to kill the beast in front of the royals so he does that
@@Ewokpilot65 ah that explains. It was shown in the movie too that the dart was still pumping poison so I guess the beast didn't get enough of a lethal dosage.
I really enjoyed watching this movie, it had fantastic animation for both the character expressions aswell as the monsters and environments. The only weak point in my opinion was the Red Bluster’s design, I felt the blue beast from the beginning of the film sold the most powerful beast in the sea look better. But the expression dialogue from the red bluster was still hilarious and well done 👍🏿
Oh and one last thing, I feel like the plot point of witch lady who made the needle weapon saying she would take everything from Crowe didn’t get a pay off. Maybe it was because poison didn’t kill the beast so the omen didn’t come true?
She did take everything in a way. Using the needle lead to the end of sea beast hunting.
Honestly, I realise I'm probably alone in thinking this, but... I feel like this could've just been a fun adventure film about sea beasts without needing to be subversive. The first third of this film, I adore in how its set up and all the cool looking pirate designs, but then that's all shipped out for another plot about subversion. And it's still well written ultimately, but for my tastes, I feel like we don't have enough straight fun adventure films these days and not everything needs a big message.
Jared Harris' Captain Crow was the highlight of the movie for me.
Jared Harris is a highlight in most things he's in!
You know one of the things I liked the most? Just like how to train your dragon with toothless and the other dragons they gave Red and the other beasts so much personality without any dialogue. Like when Joseph attacked Red near the end you could just SEE from the expression on her face she was like “Are you OUT of your mind???” So good!
The only big incoherence in this movie is the absence of the "witch's" repercussions, she gave the hand of God to the captain and in exchange she was supposed to take something very valuable in return. So I was kinda expecting him to die or for the whole crew to die or be cursed, but yeah I guess since it's a children movie they gave up completely on this scene repercussions and pretended it never happened, hoping no one would notice the incoherence....
Yeah after I finished the movie I was like "what was all the fear about that creepy lady then?" They got the poison, and nothing bad happened after. I did think that perhaps it was more metaphorical, and the lady said he'd lose everything, in theory he used the poison, which let him bring it back to the palace, which let it wake up, which led to it showing everyone that monsters aren't that bad, which led to "no more monster hunting." So now Captain Crow has lost his whole livelihood, his legacy, etc. But idk if that was intentional and even if it was, they made it seem like something way more sinister was going to occur that it felt like the witch didn't do anything, especially when the crew were saying stuff like "it's the crew who'll pay the price" but nothing happened to his crew either lol.
Also, with the sea witch why is she considered a witch at all? She has better technology at her fingertips than anybody else has and she has a little bit of alchemy in the form of poison. Other than being creepy looking, there's really no reason to be afraid of her
The price to pay was “everything”. One would think she meant Crow’s and his crew life’s but instead that “everything”was that pirates would no longer hunt so he lost his prestige and his job but not only that, the ship was destroyed in the final confrontation. So in the end he did lost “everything”.
@@el_doble_zeta I thought that too, but the setup was way too sinister and creepy just for that to be the payment, kind of a let down.
@@ReblazeGaming well yeah, agree
I'm a grown ass man and I enjoyed this movie with my cousin who is another grown ass man LMAO
I agree about the opening scene. The water was beautifully rendered to the point it looked more realistic than real water. It was a good movie.
Honestly mindblowing!
Better than light year. Character development was great.
Characters were all round really good!
Anyone else get some How To Train Your Dragon vibes?
i did lol
I can sense that vibe too Feykro!
its not exactly the same direction, but it definitely has strong parallels. im not sure if netflix makes toys, but kid me would be wanting ALL the sea monsters.
...it's the entire movie.
I adored this movie every second of it, its so well animated and tells a great story, honestly I think not focusing on the race is fine because it gives Captain Crow more desperation and fire when we cut to him from Jacob and Massie.
I struggled with this. I enjoyed it for much of the same reasons you've mentioned, but there are *so many* unfinished plot points that it just left me very frustrated.
The story with the Hag went absolutely nowhere. We were promised a grim bargain, but it seems like Crow got what he wanted with zero drawback. The crew questioned Crow's authority more than once - albeit in hushed tones - but that too never came to anything.
Then there's Red's nostrils: Why are they airtight? Even when swimming underwater they're perfectly fine for Jacob and Maisie to sit in.
You've discussed the fact that the Imperator plot went nowhere. I honestly expected the Imperator to swoop in during the first battle between Red and the Inevitable - wait for the Inevitable to do all the hard work then swoop in, blow the Inevitable out of the water, and take the glory for themselves. Honestly if I was Hornigold, it's what I'd have done.
I'm frustrated because whilst I didn't hate this film - there was actually a lot I really liked, like its use of colour (the Red Bluster, the Blue... pet? The green Brickleback, the yellow Momma-Beast, the purple Crab, etc) - I'm frustrated because it could have been *so* much better. I get that the 2-hour running time meant it was already too long for a 'children's film', but that's fine - let it burn slowly. Span everything out over 2 or 3 movies. They could have done so much more with this, but didn't.
It was definitely an enjoyable film, well worth watching. A few issues I had were the First Mate's trust in Maisie's arguments came somewhat out of left field near the end.
Additionally, the idea of the beasts being misunderstood creatures that are only attacking in self defence only goes so far until you try arguing for monsters like the Giant Enemy Crab, which attacked the pair unprompted. Something like that plays utterly straight with the monsters' portrayal in the books, meaning a note should definitely be made on how some of these Beasts are just arseholes by nature (similar to certain animals).
On that topic, the vilification of the Royals I feel is also leant into a bit too hard. It paints them as having orchestrated this whole conspiracy about all monsters being actively malevolent & deserving little more than wholesale slaughter, when it could just as likely be that they too are victims of the age-old tales and legends that have been perpetuated and extrapolated upon.
Finally, the conclusion was definitively abrupt and could've used some smoothing out to tie up loose ends. What was the ultimate fate of the Royals? Is hunting outlawed proper or just moral taboo? What happened to Crowe and the rest of his crew? What of the Sea Witch's bargain? All we get is the rather absolute statement that "nobody sails the sea anymore", which is its own can of worms about the greater implications to the world, lives and livelihoods of a lot of characters.
I do hope we get a follow-up to the film that extrapolates on these plot threads, themes and holes, be it an animated series or a sequel film.
Great review and breakdown Andrew!
The movie started out so strong but the characters became impulsive just to keep the plot going. Honestly I think it would have been badass if they kept to the original drive of beating the Royal battle ship in a race to capture a sea beast and keep the sea beasts as antagonists.
Me when I first watched it:
Oh hey this ain't so bad- WAIT A MINUTE
*proceeds to rant to my mother as to how this is completely unoriginal and is basically How to train your dragon but how to train your sea monster, and with hunters instead of vikings, sea beasts instead of dragons, and two protagonists instead of just one*
I really Liked this one.
It felt Reminiscent of Disney and Dreamworks
And of course Pirates of the Caribbean.
I really Recommend it.
However I do have one small Issue and that is [Spoilers]
The finale Act Speech thing. It’s not that it conveys a bad message but, the lesson they’re trying to teach is a bit too complex for the world of the Story.
Historic Revisionism, Elitism, Propaganda and so on. But since we spend so much time at sea we don’t quite get to SEE the effects and hold that the royals have over people. The greatest issue I can take with this movie is the Threat feels unfocused.
Ooooo Dreamworks DEFINITELY, some little shades of El Dorado in there! I do agree some more focus on the Royals themselves as being 'the bad guys' would have allowed more context and impact for their downfall
@@UnleashTheGhouls exactly
Lol great review, but you must not know Karl Urban. He's a kiwi and he is already very famous. He's been in Star wars, Thor Ragnorok, Riddick, and the MOST trendy superhero show, THE BOYS.
Hahaha it was a satirical comment ;) he's a great actor! Although his Billy Butcher voice is little to be desired
The most memorable line is "You can be hero and still be wrong."
That just really blows me away, we tend to idealize those seen as heros but don't accept that they can also do wrong.
When maisie and Jacob were staring at red and red staring back my first thought was "water puppy" lol she reminded me so much of toothless
I did notice that, I also noted that Red had the same general head and eye shape - the overall movie deisgn was likely a deliberate nod to help endear us to the seas beasts as the world deisgn is so similar
I was so pleasantly surprised by this movie that I am inclined to actually love it. I didn't mind the subplot with the crown ship, because the main plot was just so well executed. I just can't shake a feeling that Red was just a red ocean Toothless. I get why she may have been designed like that. And it's working, because I love her.
No one gonna talk abt on how red's head and teeth design look like toothless?
enjoyed it a lot. Gonna get my kid to watch this next weekend. My only problem was it edged a bit too close to "how to train your dragon" but thankfully gained ground again with the idea of it's not about the narratives in the books, it's *who* wrote the narratives. Anyone who studies WW2 and knows about Rommel will entirely understand what I am talking about... he created his own aggrandized narrative through video, journals and all means he had at the time... it was so pervasive you will still get Twitter commentators heralding him as a tactical genius when... while a good commander, was not invincible and absolutely made massive tactical errors.
I'd say the best description for this film is that it's shallow, which I suppose is ironically fitting, considering the premise.
Take the Royalty's secret for an example, it was an extremely predictable twist, and is far too surface level for it to be convincing; in order for a conspiracy that huge to be pulled off, many people in the government would have to be in on it, but there seems to be no royalty other than a king and queen, and the military is so easily convinced. I get that it's a children's cartoon so it can't be too complicated, but having the king and queen promote the conspiracy exclusively and have the child convince a whole civilisation that little effort isn't convincing, at least to me.
One thing I've seen in the comments is people stating that the plot thread with the witch was never resolved, I disagree because Captain Crow _did_ lose everything by the end, she stated the truth completely and it doesn't really need to be stated out loud.
Also this film throws logic out the window quite a bit. It can't have me believe that green monster in the beginning gets killed off by what is essentially a toothpick to them, or that no water enters the red bluster's nostril.
Great response Piotr! And some great points brought up throughout! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
If you rematch the whole nostril thing, there's a membrane looking thing that covers the nostril and works as a window for the two main characters. You can see it peel away once red surfaces.
love u for making this video! this movie is so underrated and deserves some more attention
love u for making this comment!
I think there are points int he movie could have been better; like near the end where Maisie talked about the empire's lie, she could have pointed out that if the sea beasts plucked maindens from the whatever veggy farms; then why isn't Red doing it now or there were no other recorded events of in the one in the book (after Jacob pointed out the destruction of the town that doesn't exst) has been happening or have been attempted. Also, it would have been better if the Imperator was actually a good hunitng ship, like it could kill the sea beasts around it before it could been attacked closely but is destroyed easily by Red just becaused it was in a weak spot near the shore. AND what happened to the poison that was injected to Red? It was supposed to be a poison strong enough to kill any beasts. There's more on the top of my mind but they're not too relevant. Still great of a movie that I enhoyed very much.
Yeah I think if you dug a lot deeper into the film you're bound to pick out some flaws and inconsistencies, but on the whole I enjoyed it very much also Renaway!
I dont think the poison was fully injected. The captain only injected enough to render it weak so that he could be the one to deliver the finishing blow.
I didn't get why the crown started hunting the beasts in the first place. It was shown the crown only collected the horns of the beasts from hunters while paying the hunters cash. But somehow the crown profited from this arrangement? Sending expensive ships off to fight non threatening creatures and paying crews for the privilege while not collecting any valuable resource (like whale oil and blubber) does not seem profitable.
The hunters claimed in their song that they drove the beats back and enabled sea based trade, but if the beast were never a threat then that cannot be true, the crown would have been able to conduct sea based trade all along. From the facts presented I do not think we are given a true reason for the war to start?
Trying to reverse engineer the cause for the war beyond a vaguely given "increase of power" would either be influence, money or territory. Like maybe the horns are insanely valuable in a foreign market the crown is selling them too that the hunters don't have access too or know of? Otherwise it could not have been a forgotten practice of harvesting the animals for resources as crews clearly don't do it in the present times but the crown is still profiting from the arrangement somehow.
Gaining territory doesn't make sense either because the creatures weren't denying port access or blocking shipping routes, so killing them doesn't gain anything.
Influence is a bit unclear, it may be possible to gain international political clout by having a bunch of sea beast horns displayed in your court? But that is a very dodge political climate if kingdoms influence and power and determined by trophies unrelated to actual resource and land conquest, like armies and technology.
My conclusion is that the original conflict seems to have not been able to have occurred within the context that the film provides, and only exists for the purpose of the plot twist, which is a bit of a shame and it would have taken less than 30 seconds for a line to be dropped about the kingdoms wealth coming from a resource the dead creatures provide to oppose the falsehood of them blocking ports and raiding towns.
TL'DR: Plothole? No contextually valid reason for the beasts to be hunted in the first place if they were so peaceful.
@@rhyswall1354 I agree with this and the fact they bring up the monarch ship like it was supposed to mean something to the viewers
@@rhyswall1354 Hi! These are great observations. Hmmmm just my two cents. Monarchy or Empires work by using the imagined community of providing safety. If people think that they are in constant fear, they would turn to to the leadership of the monarchy for that “safety,” thus solidifying the existence of monarchy. In turn, people lived as subjects of the empire in exchange of the safety provided by the monarchy. In addition, it was said that fear alone has had an impact to the trade. Hence, being able to drive the monsters away signify the increasing power of the monarch.
Many people say it's just how to train your dragon but I like the sea beast more it brings more history to it and instead of a village protecting themselves it's a village actively hunting these creatures and sacrificed a lot of people even the main characters parents I felt there was more weight behind this than httyd
One thing I love is the dialogue. I'm not a monster hunter (obviously) but I'm from the North of England and my speech pattern and vocab is very similar to the one used in the film. It felt like they were speaking my 'language'.
Especially terms like 'bollocksing it up' , 'aye' and 'me' instead of 'my'.
I also love how it's dark and doesn't shy away from more adult themes like murder, alcohol and death.
This was basically "how to train your dragon" in the water
Just started the video but we needed more on the world of hunters and the royalty. We needed more world building to further pollish the experience.
Like, imaging the story of the monsters attacking on shore, what if they flipped the roles and it was really the royals who drove them from their homes, and the monsters fought back? Or more details on the rivalry with crow and the admiral? Or maybe the admiral deciding to blow the competition out of the water, and the inevitable taking advantage of how sluggish it is.
And why didn't the poison finish of red?
Some highlights of the film for me:
1. Lighting backdrops of the red monster and the Inevitable. Seeing the red sails in a misty light, or a red shadow under the seas is visually striking, and really cool. This movie knows how to use the color red.
2. The message. “Even heroes can be wrong” is such a powerful message, especially considering the inspirations for this story like actual whaling practices.
3. Admiral Hornagold. This man is such a caricature of Horatio Hornblower, and as a fan of the true admiral, it was funny to watch him fail.
The movie surprised me. It was a classic tale but well done.
The animation was very good and the story telling also worked.
And I like the art style!
But I have one big gripe:
The ending.
Crow wasnt paying and bailed the big purchase.
This felt inconsequential.
One could say "well, he paid the amount he was charged" but it felt weak with that kind of interpretation.
Also I felt that some characters are a bit underused, like Sharpe for example.
The entire crew of the main ship seems to only stay in the background, except when they have to spit one or two lines out.
And maybe Jacob should have talked to the crowd to convince them. As a hunter, who is laying down his weapon, he has more weight than a little child.
The used way could interpretated as a "gretainian way", which I dont like that much (/if you want to see it that way)
A bit sad.
But heck, it is a kids movie. So I guess I cant expect that much from it
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Leinad! Yes there were several character and general plots threads that were onluy briefly picked up or not picked up at all, and not resolved, I was happy to let em go under the depths due to enjoying the ride :)
I do think Red deserved a better design.
The movie should’ve been a little longer.
We should’ve got more history on Red.
I don’t wanna keep bringing up HTTYD, but the way Hiccup studied Toothless is what I kinda expected with Red and Maise. Not that she really could, since one resides in the sea and one on land.
Well lots of my critism already been said by people in the comment section. One thing I notice was that in the Epilogue said that for the peace to happen the human stop sailing Dregmorr Sea basically isolating themselves and cutting off any port and colony. Like if Peace was happening then human would be free to sail wherever they want without getting attack and vice versa with the Sea monster. If it really a peace then why does it seams like a lost? What stoping people from exploring the sea again? If they do due that mean they are free rain for the beast to attack them? Like seriously why did they have to not sale anymore?
If they wanted to go with peace with monster route they could have had it that we are show a scene with the exHunter using their sea beast knowledge to help people avoid issue with the sea beast. Have the old captain be like a Sea Beast tour guide using his knowledge to show people the sea beasts. Have the Royal get Awe by a Majestic Sea Beast sight. Have the guy and the kid decided to dedicate their lives to learning more about the sea beast so human and Sea beast can get along.
When watching this film, it reminded me of the old days when most cartoons were good, a lot of modern cartoons are bland, unoriginal or milked, but this film stood out with memorable funny scenes and references that you don't often see in modern cartoon films, this feels like the sort of film that fit well in the era where we saw shrek for the first time, an odd sense of Nostalgia for a film that is new.
BLUE IS PERFECT
Another big plus for this movie was its attention to detail. Just listening to some of the scenes, you hear so much naval phrases, even with the flintlocks, it has them being at full cock, with the flint hitting the frizzen, causing sparks to shoot into the pan, with a very short delay before the gun fires
I went into this movie with relatively low expectations and thus was blown away by how shockingly good it is
My only complaints I had that I recall was how fast Maisie had a turn of heel for Red and how the whole poison thing went down.
First off, I’m FINE with Maisie having befriended Red, but honestly I felt she needed just a touch more cook time in learning that. She should have been terrified of Ref on the beach and taken the chance to run with Jacob into the forest while Red retreated for a time.
Then Maisie meets Blue- and it’s at that point she has a turn of heel. Not just because it’s a baby, but implied that it’s going to become a beast like Red someday- Blue introduces her to the idea and solidifies it by bringing her to Red, whom she is at first afraid of- but seeing a tiny baby play in its presence as well as notices that Red Is entirely being chill- THATS when it hits her reflecting even to their last encounter. Red wasn’t trying to hurt them.
Idk. Just an idea.
And the poison- did they cover that in the film because- pretty sure the big deal in that whole situation was SHE WAS DYING. I was like where’s the antidote?! How are they gonna save her- and then…. Swam out to sea and is ok.
Um-? Yay but- what??
Nitpicks on my part- it’s been a hot min since I last watched it Ngl- but those are my grievances that I remember.
Otherwise this was a fantastic movie, beautiful to look at, awesome creature designs and the characters for the vast majority I felt were believable.
I recall seeing Red staring from the depths and thinking, “OH! So THATS thalassaphobia!”
I hate how they didn’t explore the backstory more of characters and things such as why the girl can be nice with the creature and they just said “hey, animals are exist”
In my opinion this movie was AMAZING! The details in the animation were great as well although I did wish that they explained who exactly the witch was.
We only learnt about how "dishonorable" it was by working alongside Batterbie as a hunter, however they lacked explaining why it was. It felt like she could've been such an interesting villain or at least a way to shine more history on the hunters, but it feels like they also just added her in the story for side character plot that wasn't shined on enough.
Overall the movie was great as said before, just wish that there were some things that they could've explained a tad more about.
The witch said “the weapon will cost him everything” and in the end he truly lost everything. The witch didn’t give them a lethal dosis, she wanted all this to happen. She wanted them to bring red in front of the palace and expose everything. So in the end the captain was unnecessary for the world, he lost respect, his son, his crew, his job, his legacy and maybe his faith too. He really paid the price
My initial impression with a Admiral called HORNIGOLD who historically sold out the Pirate Republic of Nassau to the British was gonna try and wipe out the Hunters. Hell even Captain Crow berates how his ship is built, not fit for hunting monsters, stationary cannons and so on... Almost like the Imperator was built for ship-to-ship combat, something the Inevitable is not. Though I suppose that may be cranking up the violence-factor a tad too much and distract from the films message.
I liked it a lot! Great action, visuals, satisfying character arcs and themes. Though the end message makes the film significantly less cooler, even HTTYD managed to squeeze in a few evil dragons here and there. I'm also not a fan of teaching the audience that nature (the beasts) acts with human sensibilities and felt making the beasts a bit more closer to animals with their own needs and instincts while recognizing our own would have provided a more... balanced message?
Great film anywho, highly recommend!
No one talking about how good Karl urban is and how much personality he brings to all his characters love the man
Hearing you mentioned the Admiral subplot made me laugh at loud, because when I first watched the movie, the minute I saw the royal ship, I blurted "I forgot that thing existed", lmao.
My son loves this film, he is 3 we always yell “you cut them lines!” at each other hahaha
I was a bit disappointed when they didn't keep fighting the beasts at the end but I guess thats just because I'm a 15 year old that just wants some epic action sequences. Probably best they got the good morality going instead.
Have you seen Love, Death, and Robots? That's got some amazing action sequences stunningly animated! I think it's R18(?) though, or maybe R16, so would depend on what your parents are okay with, but I watched it with my kids and we all loved it!! Just had to cover their eyes in some of the more "adult" moments lol
@@Vexarax cool I will have to look into it
@@epicdragon409 type 'love death robots season 1 explicit trailer' into youtube and you'll see everything you need to see to know if you want to watch it or not. That trailer alone literally rocked my world!! :D Season 3 trailer is also amazing (and that one has a sea monster story).
It's some of the greatest animation ever made (so far) - with amazingly weird, often very violent stories :D
I feel like red design could of been more badass.
but I do love the and agree with your points. this movie has a lot of loss end plot points like the big ship you see halfway in the movie i think
Beautiful story, even more wonderful message. I hope everyone will see far enough as the plot can show, if not even more. My 3 and a half year daughter recommended this movie to me, anticipating its moral lesson, and I’m so thankful. Children have pure hearts
I had heard about this movie and wanted to see it but didn’t have a Netflix account (not gonna pay the $17 a month to see 1 movie). So I got my cousin who has an account to watch it with me. The only thing I knew going in is that it was similar to How to Train your Dragon, which is one of my favorite franchises.
Safe to say I thought this movie was fantastic, not perfect but very very solid. I loved how they actually killed one of the beasts in the beginning, and it’s overall mature feel, some of the shots were absolutely gorgeous, to name a couple:
-The opening where lightning strikes and you can see the half sunken ship through the water
-Where Jacob & Maisie get flung off the Inevitable and then get face to face with the Red Bluster (seriously one of the most terrifying shots I’ve seen in cinema)
-When Red slices the Imperator in half and then stands over the wreckage through the fire & smoke
I have similar complaints but they don’t really take away from the experience imo and they leave enough room for a potential sequel. While I consider the 1st HTTYD movie to be near perfection, I think The Sea Beast gets a very respectable 8/10. I only wish it would be put on DVD so I can have a physical copy.
It's like Author Morgan from Red Dead entered How To Train Your Dragon, but on the open sea
Frankly, I didn't have great expectations going into it, but I ended up loving it. True, the 'race' wasn't fleshed out, but the destruction of the warship was a satisfactory finish to that micro-arc.
What really did surprise me was the wisdom shown by Maisie, specifically the part about books outliving us. Additionally, the quick affection of the Bluster to the main characters, especially after all the years of hunting was a bit much, although clearly necessary for the progression of the plot.
The detail and relative accuracy put into the function and navigation of the sailing ships was very much appreciated, as that is almost always overlooked in films about or containing sailing vessels.
Overall, 9/10 stars, would watch again. Well done.
An honest film. Not pushing any modern narrative. Just a lesson on morality and judging a book by the cover...pun intended 🤦♂️
What
How it should have ended:
The hunters are replaced with explorers and scientists. They research the seabeasts and their living behaviors. Knowledge is gained and passed on for generations and humanity becomes comfortable with these animals and the animals used to humans. (the relationship between humans and whales today. If humanity never bothered to learn more about whales, the future generations would've still been scared of them, because there is always fear of the unknown.) There's an "I love you, kiddo." "I love you too, dad". Scene, 'cause she never called him dad even though they were hinting at the adoption convo having closure
Perhaps something like this could be delved into in a sequel!
I feel like it could’ve been done far better than what it is, and its lacking in so many areas of decent story telling that it’s a shame
I really enjoyed this movie. I wish the woman at the end said 'Aye' instead of 'let it go'. The same woman that jacob paid to take maisie from the bar. Would've made me laugh so hard
god I loved this movie. It's an interesting tightrope walk between candy-colored fun and a very genuine action film, and I think they strike the balance well.
This was great when I first saw this movie 10 years ago, you know, How To Train Your Dragon.
I was so impressed with this movie!! And it being from Netflix I had low expectations! But it’s like you said, I was immediately drawn in at the beginning and it was so action packed and fun! I love the gorgeous animation and the character relationships. The relationship between captain crow and Jacob is really neat, along with the relationship between Jacob and Maisie. Ten out of ten from me. It was fantastic!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, the plot, the animation, the beasts, and most importantly, the characters. In some movies (not all), the characters, sometimes, just don't feel "right." But in this movie, they're perfect. Solid 10/10 from me. Although, there could have been more beasts, but that's just a personal nitpick.
Liked the part where Captain Crow calls the Admiral an Ass
while watching it i made a joke to myself about this just being How To Train Your waterDragon
This is SPOT ON hahahaha
mine was how to train your monster hunter. especially when they took the horn. but i like both dragon and monster hunter, so thats a good thing for me to call it.
@@ryanweible9090 yea lol
Honestly, I love it, but simultaneously it feels like a couple big chunks were taken out to streamline it, and yet without compromising the quality of the main plot. It feels like they wanted desperately to give more screentime to the subplots, but ultimately had to drop them.
If toothless mated with a red death is what red looks like
I hope they make another movie of The Sea Beast its so good
I feel like it set up a lot of things. the ending stated they no longer went beyond in the sea. which I view as a mistake. have them go into the unknown. have them go on adventures. learn about the creatures. discover what happened to the Monarch, or the admiral and what he took from his encounter with Red.
it's a wonderfully rich world and the Inevitable is a gorgious ship. I wish to see more of it and watch the character go out at sea with a new perspective
Love the movie, great story. I know this takes away from the message of the story but the creatures were to well designed I would totally enjoy a pre-peace era game where you play as a hunter and you work with others to take out the various sea creatures like monster hunter but out at sea and on a boat.
this is one of my favorite animated movies EVER, actually! it's just SO vibrant and fun and exciting, the dialogue is stellar and really funny and impactful without coming off as corny or forced, every character gets a moment to shine, and don't even get me started on the animation because that will take ALL day. but the character designs, the symbolism, the use of color and lighting - my only REAL criticism is with the beast designs, like red, blue, and the yellow creatures - i thought they all came off as way too... cartoony, in a setting that's almost photorealistic in its detail. they look kind of like plastic toys and it DOES sort of negatively impact the immersion, but tbh i can forgive it. this movie is SO much fun
I loved the movie being a sea monster fan and pirate fan. However, I wish they didn't make the Red Bluster so Toothless like. We needed more scenes like the start where they fought the Prickleback. Great movie, 10/10 👍
Gwen Batterbie says to Captain Crow that the cost for the Hand of God is “everything”. Later, in front of the huge crowd, Captain Crow attempts to kill Red with the lancer but is stopped by Jacob. Distraught because of Jacob’s betrayal, the two engage in a sword fight, then Crow yells to Jacob ,”I gave you everything”. Crow’s lost Jacob, the son-like figure who he intended to take over as captain of his ship and continue his legacy of hunting.