Dr John Campbell responds to excess deaths criticism with misinformation
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2023
- Recently, Dr John Campbell started a video by saying he was going to respond to some criticism of a previous video about excess deaths in Australia in 2021 that he had made with Senator Renick.
In this video, Dr Susan Oliver and Cindy the dog will go back to the science and explain why his response was just more misinformation.
Buy me a coffee (or Cindy a treat)
www.buymeacoffee.com/SusanAnd...
Links to data:
Measuring Australia's excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic until the first quarter 2023
www.abs.gov.au/articles/measu...
Excess winter mortality in England and Wales: 2017 to 2018 (provisional) and 2016 to 2017 (final)
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati...
Excess Mortality from Causes Other than Influenza and Pneumonia during Influenza Epidemics
www.jstor.org/stable/4580606?...
Catch up on the Actuaries Institute’s COVID-19 Mortality Working Group’s latest analysis of excess deaths.
www.actuaries.digital/2023/07...
Twitter thread from Karen Cutter comparing ABS data with Australian Actuaries Institute’s data
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Thankyou Dr Oliver
Good to see Cindy making such important contribution with no effort, as usual. Keep it up, Cindy!
Thank you!
John's first point seems to be that lock downs work at keeping cases low.
I thought the exact same thing.
@@diandian9827 Me too. The problem is when you tell so many lies you ae bound to come unstuck.Or as Sir Walter Scott put it. ‘Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive,’
Eh, his followers probably haven't noticed. Otherwise it would probably have come to torches and pitchforks in the comments section. 😅
@@mikolmisol6258 Kill the beast!
Interestingly, it wasn't so much lockdowns in Western Australia, it was "stop it getting ins." We spent most of the time living perfectly normally, but people arriving from elsewhere had to isolate to make sure they didn't bring it with them.
By the time our borders opened up, we were mostly vaccinated.
Western Australia population 2.7million covid deaths 1150
South Australia population 1.75million covid deaths 1550
Fantastic thanks
Well done Susan.
There is a lot of money at stake. There needs to be push back against the grifting Mercola/Kennedy clique.
@@harrycolon5301 mercola with dandelion root claimed cure
@@harrycolon5301 The gravedigger cartels! Campbell's secret overlords.
Thank you
Another excellent video Dr. Oliver. You have done an excellent job showing exactly where Campbell has misinterpreted the data on excess deaths. Since he began pandering to the anti-vaxxers, he's done this so often that I have conclude it's deliberate, not accidental.
Definitely profit and notoriety driven ….
Another reason is that if it was accidental he would invite his critics on his channel to at least discuss why he is wrong, but he doesn't
@@jonnyjp8486 nailed it … 100% agree with you.
Ty for keep doing theese
Dr. Oliver, you deserve to have at least 3 million subscribers. I wish the algorithm would favour these videos more. Excellent information as always. Thank you for the work you continue to do. Part of the issue is that this is the first time the general public is hearing the term "excess mortality" and it carries an emotional response, without the right education. You are doing incredible work to correct and educate, in spite of the damaging misinformation that others continue to spread.
I couldn't agree more. This is what people really should be watching and Susan explains what could be overly complex to many in such a clear understandable way. She puts in a lot of time and research....unlike John Campbell who rushes to his preferred conclusion. Genuinely she should be put forward for some kind of public service award for her efforts to inform, educate and debunk.
I've learned in recent months that RUclips seems to favour "aged" channels with large volumes of videos. However, that's very time-consuming for the owner of the site. You do need a viral event in MSM or another huge, collaboration with a large channel.
Thank you Lindsay. Really good point about the general public not being familiar with the term "excess mortality"
@@jamesrussell9261 Completely agree
@@Backtothescience I’m willing to bet that the large majority of people did not hear this term prior to the pandemic, so it’s easy for him to fear monger with these “reports” and also misinterpret them unfortunately.
Welcome once again to _Cindy's Campbell Correction Center!_
Meet the new John, just like the old John!
Thanks Susan great vid..he really is a charleton..no shame.
And that's being nice. What got me was his total lack of understanding of how to interpret medical papers online. Sadly his audience doesn't know any better - hence why they listen to him - luckily we have Dr Oliver, sorry nurse Campbell been debunked too many times for me.
Excellent job, as always! As for "I'm not good at acting" - I don't know about that, but your style is definitely entertaining :)
Dr Oliver does cop a bit from the other side - but I must confess Im with you and find her both informative and entertaining.
I highly highly highly doubt that he will go back to "reasonable John". This is his business model now. Such a shame because he was a great source of information when the pandemic started. Now hes an absolute woo and a grifter.
The death rate remained low in the second year of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to data released today by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).
Lauren Moran, Director of Mortality Statistics at the ABS, said, “There were 171,469 deaths registered in 2021 at a rate of 507 deaths per 100,000 people. This was 3.2 per cent higher than 2020 but lower than the 2019 pre-pandemic death rate (522 per 100,000).”
Heart disease was the leading cause of death in 2021, with dementia (including Alzheimer’s disease), stroke, lung cancer and chronic lower respiratory diseases making up the top five causes. Heart disease was the leading cause of male deaths while dementia was the leading cause among females.
Low death rate, almost no flu but more alcohol-induced deaths in 2021
This is on 2023 excess in the US which are at pre-pandemic levels. Wonder if Campbell will make a video about this? Pasted in from Katelyn Jetelina's latest update:
Since late January 2023, excess deaths have reached pre-pandemic levels. This has been a massive reprieve.
I am surprised; I always assumed that we would need to increase the excess death baseline given we added a new threat to our repertoire. But, for now, we don’t. Perhaps this is due to a combination of things:
*You can’t die twice.* COVID-19 has killed the most medically fragile people over the last three years, and those premature deaths lead to fewer deaths today. In this case, excess deaths could rebound in coming years;
*Population-level immunity.* Hybrid immunity is holding up greater than we expected, even among older Americans;
*Relative.* COVID-19 deaths are so small relative to the entire burden of death that it’s immaterial. It’s a fraction of all daily deaths and within the margin of error.
@@MysticOblong isn't "hybrid immunity" an admission that Natural immunity works thereby discrediting the need for mandates? And also shedding light on how the shutting down of claims that it was effective was a mistake, showing that the experts aren't infallible and the previously smeared proponents of natural immunity WERENT crazy conspiracy theorists after all.
@@andrewditton7226 There really is only one type of immunity that is induced by natural infection and by vaccination. However, there are subtle differences. Immunity from natural infection affords a robust response if exposed to exactly the same virus again, but is not so some with different variants. Immunity induced by vaccination provides a broader response, especially from T cells.
The scientists knew this of course. The issue was that the authorities wanted a simple message and just pushed for vaccination. Also it was difficult to test and confirm natural infection and incorporate it into the vaccination program. Not everyone who is infected produces good acquired immunity. It was just easier only to count vaccinations.
@@andrewditton7226 How many people in Australia could claim having "natural immunity" at the point in time that vaccines were made available?
@@christopherrobinson7541 "Also it was difficult to test and confirm natural infection". I'm not sure of the timeline for this antibody test, but there is one available in the US from Labcorp: "SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies, Nucleocapsid". If I wasn't old with old secondary conditions, I would have liked some immunity from natural infection, but back in the real world I felt much safer after the complete series.
Thanks for the video. Wonderfully lucid and no-nonsense with the historical overview and clear presentation of the data.
Ridiculously, as I type this comment there's a thumbnail image for Campbell's latest, "Excess deaths, lack of debate", that features a graveyard with headstones in what looks like a promo for a Hammer Horror movie. He's such a clown and let's hope a viewer or two of his see your videos and realise he's spinning fact-free tall tales for fame and fortune.
Hahaha...he changed it to the Hammer House of horrors dracula thumbnail after he released it, I think he had too much after dinner whiskey.
I called it ghoulish grifting, graveyards and clickbait title.
@@swally4704 Yes, the grifting ghoul is getting worse and worse! When I was a kid there was a guy on a local TV station who presented weekly B horror movies called Deadly Earnest. John Campbell genuinely reminds me so much of Deadly Earnest though Campbell's excess death horror movies aren't as much fun as the horror movies Deadly Earnest presented.
ruclips.net/video/TmS7vo5vV80/видео.html
@@MysticOblong Deadly Earnest stuck 2 fingers up before he closed his coffin that was funny.
On another note, I do think JC will start wearing a black satin Dracula Cape and do you tube field trips to the local morgue.
@@MysticOblong "the grifting ghoul is getting worse and worse! "
His audience demands it, and he will lose them - and his income stream - if he does not give them what they want.
As i am really useless at science and maths, so my thought on this debate is probably simplistic and without data to back it up. However, this is what has been niggling at me for sometime How many people who have been vaccinated havent died or suffered severe injury? If Campbell is right in what he asserts, but doesnt actually say, surely by now just about every vaccinated person would be very ill or dead? I would appreciate comments
@helenmaclenan3237
Your post suggests that, in spite of your claim to the contrary, you have a better grasp of science and maths than Mr Campbell demonstrates in his videos.
Billions of peope have been vaccinated and millions of people who have been vacccinated have not died, so logically Campbell's asertionmust be incorrect.
Moderna is a stealthy, US Military BI0WEAP0N, monitored by 5G. Get an x-ray of your forehead & see.
You are entirely right. The goalposts keep moving in antivax land. First it was immediate death post vaccination, then 6 months, then a year. They can only shift to infinity. There's a twtter account called Am I Dead Yet? which has reported "No" every day since its owner was vaccinated.
@@mark140363 Thanks! 🙂
Dr Oliver, you and other science communicators are becoming too important for him to ignore!
I have immense admiration for what you have accomplished with your channel thus far, and I'm certain this is only the beginning. I'm a medical biotechnology student (and so probably require less explanation than many), but I think your style of science communication is excellent; you explain what is necessary without stripping issues of nuance.
Thank you kindly for your service! 😊
2.7m vs 8k.
Arm waving "these are not the droids you are looking for."
Great take.
@@andrewditton7226I think you took her literal arm waving too literally and missed her explanation and arguments because of it. 😅
@@andrewditton7226 This video is about the quality of the presentation and the information presented, noy about the number of people Campbaell has decieved.
@@andrewditton7226 If the presentation is a distraction do not watch but listen instead and read the linked documents.
@@andrewditton7226
So we should trust the likes of Dubay over geologists and physicists when it comes to the shape of the earth?
Once again, thank you, Dr. Oliver.
Brilliant Dr Oliver 👏 thanks 👍
Thank you, Dr Oliver!
On his new video, he makes a big show of reading out about myocarditis in young men from a book called Davidson's Principles and Practice in Medicine. "In most patients the disease is self-limiting and the immediate prognosis is excellent. However, death may occur due to ventricular arrhythmia or rapid progressive heart failure, Myocarditis has been reported as a cause of sudden and unexpected death in young athletes." he goes silent, bites his lip and says seriously "we could go on". His copy of Davidson's Principles and Practice in Medicine is the 21st Edition which was published in 2010!! All those who say this never happened before the vaccine, take note.
And of course you don't explain the context, connecting it to the research from Switzerland showing the high % of myocarditis in vaxed people. What you are doing is a classic fake news. BTW, even the WHO admitted that covid vax might cause myocarditis. That's old news. JC showed that the scale is bigger than expected. Simple
@@orent198Are you still here, lying?
You forgot to bring the research, you forgot to mention COVID itself causes cardiac issues far in excess of the vaccines.
@@jaykanta4326Having a great time here. Watch JC, he presents the swiss research. Very interesting.
@@orent198 And would it takes me 2 or 3 minutes to find his first lie?
@@jaykanta4326 1
Thanks once again. Sadly of course as ever the lies are round the world before the truth has got it's trousers on. These grifters can spread their toxic misinformation to their followers so easily online. Once it's posted their job is done. Most commenters merely see the headline and a opening statement and feel that they are legitimised by a real doctor. They feel like freedom fighters being addressed by their great leader. It's a powerful kick for them. Most of the content probably never touches them.
You definitely can appeal to many diverse communities online that get little to no traction offline. Plus you can cross boarders and continents and best of all open 24/7 365 days per year. Welcome to the digital age 2023.
If they do their own research, they will learn that their great leader is not a MD. He is a PhD (awarded for 'his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos') - how apt.
He doesn't have the necessary skill-set to interpret or critically appraise the data he presents. He is a danger to those that heed his advice. I would like to think that he did not realize this but, we don't always get what we would like.
Paging Albert Bourla 🕺
@@boojum1769 You can page him? Man, that's so cool. I don't even have his office number.
@@boojum1769 You must be the "shill", then.
Great work, thankyou 👍
Lovely as always
Always happy to see a new vid, Dr S! I think with Dr C the Peter Principle is at play here, but without any constraints at the top!
More Dunning-Kruger than Peter principle
I wonder if rational thought, complete with observations born from critical thinking, will ever return to the place it once was, a place where misguided claims and false information can be quickly snuffed out before they can do harm.
Social media has amplified the effect that has always been there. Misinformation spreads around the world in seconds, and it takes days, weeks, months, and years to correct it. This is not a level playing field. It is horrendously slanted towards the propagation of misinformation which is actually rewarded by social media in terms of fame and fortune.
I agree.
Like the whole "cases cases cases" all over the news when most were "with" not "because of" and many were mild and could have been false positives. That misinformation was most definately used to justify actions that caused harm.
@@andrewditton7226 Here is Andrew Ditton dittoing Crazy Campbell again:
FALSE: "cases cases cases" all over the news when most were "with" not "because of"
CORRECTION: We know that both cases and deaths were UNDER counted, especially worldwide.
FALSE: "many ...could have been false positives"
CORRECTION: False positives are as rare as hen's teeth...and neurones in AD's and JC's skull cavities.
FALSE: That misinformation was most definately used to justify actions that caused harm.
CORRECTION: We know that lockdowns and other mitigation measures saved lives (see below)
FALSE "definately (sic)"
CORRECTON: Ditton definitely didn't watch the video.
Australia's COVID-19 mortality rate during the pandemic is FOUR times less than that for the UK and US. This is:
- because Australia applied appropriate lockdowns and other mitigation measures until 80-95% of the adult population was vaccinated.
- because Australia achieved 95% of the adult population vaccinated.
Thus, proving both lockdowns and vaccinations save lives.
I don't think there ever was such a place. Critical thinking and skepticism have never come to humans naturally. The pandemic has merely drawn our attention to this deficit.
Still, this was far worse for all of human history, and I think we are improving in this respect.
@@andrewditton7226Andrew still thinks that viruses exist and cause disease. 😂 Isn't that just precious?
Thanks for this. I've seen a LOT of people parroting JC's claims in the last few weeks.
Because he’s right.
Another smooth and reasoned debunking of Campbell's dangerous misinformation. Thank you!
@@Lunth-yl2mk No is going to "prosecute" the Cornell-trained immunologist who was infectious disease advisor to 6 presidential administrations on Rand Paul's say-so. Get real.
@@Lunth-yl2mk Well shucks, ain't Rand Paul that eye doctor from old Kentuc? He said the state don't own your children,parents own their children.! Least he had the sense to get vaccinated against covid. Did you?
@@Lunth-yl2mk "If anyone is lying here senator, it's you" Fauci tells Paul at heated senate hearing (CNBC)
@@Lunth-yl2mk "Joined Apr 9, 2023"
Which banned sockpuppet are you?
@@Binkyboy34 It's probably another incarnation of 70's kid.
I love your videos Dr Oliver. Entertaining and straight to the point. I can’t understand how anyone can take Campbell seriously nowadays.
its a cult.
The other cult is pretending you have a condition - or nowadays... 13 conditions.
They took the old grifter seriously when he was pushing the jab with authority 🧐
Another excellent summary. Would still recommend reporting John in the sign off.
@@dennispickard7743 Denn, is it true that you pick your nose as well as your ard?
@@williamverhoef4349 yes !
Great video as usual.
Fantastic, thank you Dr Oliver. This clarification of the scare-mongering is appreciated. Keep up the great work please.
Get an x-ray of the Graphene HYDROXIDE spliced into the RNA, under the pineal, in your brain.
5G controls the quantum dots in vaccinated brains.
Geez. He's really playing to the simpletons, and he knows it. *There is no Old John*. There never was, even pre-Jimmy Dore. The DSM has entries that address this..... I was completely bamboozled.
His grifting is beyond pure greed and dangerous
@@dennispickard7743 No doubt contributed to countless people "getting their natural immunity, because it's inevitable" and not getting vaccinated. Deaths?
There actually was a pre-Jimmy Dore. Not sure if there any recordings available of "The Aggressive Progressives". There would be other people on with him. I can now see hints of what he is pushing now, but they are no longer hints.
Thanks Dr. Oliver for another informative and enjoyable video. I wonder what DID cause that doubling in the UK figures (for those aged 0 to 64 years of age)? It's thought provoking.
Influenza badly, affects the young and the very old, so these groups are vaccinated. Each year the formulation is changed, because the virus mutates. There are two mechanisms, point mutations, where the virus does not change much (shift) and reassortment (jump). The genome of the virus is divided into eight segments. If the host is infected with two different viruses segements can be swapped between the two viruses. The result is that the circulation virus is very different from previous viruses and it is difficult to "guess" what should be in the vaccine that is deployed for the next Flu season.
Usually the middle age groups have been exposed to viruses similar to the circulating virus, which means that they have some cross-protection and do not need a vaccine. In the 2017/2018 season the virus jumped, by reassortment and the Flu vaccine offered much less protection than usual (30 - 40%), it fell to not much more tha 10%. So the young and old groups were less protected. The middle age group was also not protected because the circulating virus was different from what they had previously been exposed.
The overall result was that deaths were doubled.
@@DrC19-vi2uh Noting, but leaving aside, your attribution to Christopher of deliberately misstating things, it would be good if you could expand on your laconic response.
Your comment gives no clue as to which statements you regard as false, what you think the truth might be regarding them, or what evidence you have. I'm left wondering whether you have a clue to give.
always a thorough examination of the data - mixed your humour. I do enjoy the idioms too, such as, [anti-science proponents] "bangin' on about current excess mortality..." Always a smile while watching, despite the disturbing significance of what you are presenting. Thank you :)
I have zero medical (statistical) experience, but I find it interesting that they remove outliers from the data series when estimating the model. In any case, with these adjustments they're erring on the side of overestimating excess deaths, so no grand conspiracy, etc.
From the methodology section:
"By down-weighting outliers it aims to fit the model to patterns of mortality that are expected to occur in the absence of an epidemic. This robust regression down-weights the influence of extreme observations (outliers) and is applied to a seven-year baseline time series (weeks commencing on a Monday). Some additional adjustments were made to extreme outliers, for example the 2017 influenza season."
Covid contrarians and the antivax campaign deliberately use economics analysis rather than actuarial analysis to downplay covid. The economics statisticians they use don't like messy real human condition scenarios cluttering up their pristine, dead, pecuniary universe. The Auditors of of Reality in Pratchett's Discworld come to mind at this point as oddly parallel. They have a place in the Discworld multiverse in making sure that atoms spin, and gravity works, but would be devastating to Life itself in times of any health or climate emergency if they were given any influence in combating them.
Glad her videos are taking off. John Campbell is full of S and needs to be called out.
The whole time I was listening to Renick+Campbell I kept saying: Susan, where are you!
BTW, I force myself to watch his videos as my daughter is a big John Campbell/RFK jr fan, and I try to keep at least one step ahead of the (dangerous) game. I discovered you through Gregg Tucker-Kellogg of whom I am a great fan. (Of his singing, too!)
what do you think Rennick and Campbell have to gain from their 'dangerous game'?
@@rosahughes7184youtube revenue.
@@rosahughes7184 Rennick = political support from people as silly as you are. Campbell just makes more money catering to your delusions.
@@rosahughes7184
"what do you think Rennick and Campbell have to gain from their 'dangerous game'?"
With that question you have exposed yourself as low hanging fruit ripe for picking by the grifting retired nurse, dishonest John Campbell.
Get an x-ray of the Graphene HYDROXIDE spliced into the RNA, under the pineal gland, in your brain. 5G monitors the quantum dots in vaccinated brains 😂😂😂
Im a simple man. I like beer, seeing my mates, my pets and a good grifter debunk video. Thanks again for humbling this nurse :)
Me to - I like guitars, motorcycles, diving , women, weight training - only I don’t drink 😮
@@dennispickard7743
"I don’t drink'
You will not last long 🙃
I'm a refined gentleman of distinction. This is why I watch and recommend Dr Susan Oliver's grifter debunking videos.
@@williamverhoef4349 “ you will not last long “ !
why not ? I get tested regularly for work , I have a very dangerous profession and alcohol is out , I would not think about driving my bike under the influence- EVER !
Well William,have Sussed out these pair of grifters yet ? .
@@MysticOblong Lol 😂 Both her and Campbell are ‘ bounce grifting ‘ off each other - can’t you see that ?
Nurse John is a qualified practitioner of voodoo science. Good work Dr. Oliver for calling out this quack.
Perhaps Dr Susan should add merch and sell voodoo dolls of Campbell together with a set of very large pins, long enough to piece his thick skin and prick his conscience.
Whoever recommended Paul Offitt's channel and TWiV, I think it was Neil Thompson, THANK YOU...what a great resource! Ive been referencing well-sourced CHOP articles since 2020, and never made the connection to Dr Offitt. Great channels!
ruclips.net/video/zzH3_tF1TTM/видео.html
Speaking of TWiV. See if you get the right answer to Vincent's puzzle above.
@@MysticOblong SPOILER ALERT:- The bat is $1.05 and the ball $0.05, so the bat is $1 more than the ball.
@@christopherrobinson7541 well I foolishly went for 10c. Won't make that mistake again with a "more than" puzzle. Though the second roses one seemed obvious - was surprised anyone would get that wrong. Sounds like a good book.
I would love to know if Campbell knows he’s misleading , or he genuinely has fallen down a rabbit hole. It’s hard to tell. I am so grateful for you, Dr Oliver!
Profit and notoriety are also motivations on RUclips
100% he knows. For example, when talking about increased A&E presentations with heart problems he missed off the numbers showing hospitalisations because there was no upward trend but when those numbers were corrected and he could twist them to support a conspiracy theory, he showed them. Honest people would show all the numbers and discuss all of them
You do realise that Dr Oliver is also down a rabbit hole? A rabbit hole that everything is perfect with what the governments/science did and said regarding Covid. Defending people Who we now know weré lying to us. Going along with mandates/lockdowns and vaccines for young healthy people!! JC cherry picks data ok, but not everything was right regarding Covid. Yet down the 'must stand Up for science rabbit hole' she goes. The truth is starting to spill out. However, Dr Oliver seems to dig deeper, and go for JC. Debunk governments telling us to do one thing, while they did the other. Debunk Fauci when he said no funds weré sent to China. Debunk Fauci every time he says 'I don't recall' yet in his e-mails he remembers very well indeed!!!
@Jasper.007 well those Who fell for It weré fooled!!!!!
He knows. He has several times "misinterpreted" statistics that he previously understood (he even corrected people who spread misinformation with manipulated or misunderstood numbers, now he does it himself). I'm very disappointed.
It would seem that as soon as Cindy hears the Name John Campbell she loses interest 😆Can't blame her for that lol
Smart dog.
@mimo8936 Got a Dogtorate, don'tcha know!
a brilliant takedown of the dangerously influential Campbell! He's got a very plausible manner which draws people in.
He’s right.
Just commenting for the algorithm
Well done again. He really is getting worse.
Thanks for your videos. Funnily enough, I found out about you from someone who asked a question of Bret Weinstein on his podcast 😂. You should have their level of views and subs.
excellent work. thank you.
Very well explained. Rational with no hysterics…solid acting too. Bonus!
JC interviewed Australian Senator Rennick about excess deaths in Australia. I looked up Rennick and found he also is a climate change denier. After that I did not bother watching. I would be interested in hearing them debate whether the sun actually goes round the earth or how many angels fit on the head of a pin.
57, but they must be anorexic supermodel angels.
@@Costa_Conn😄 By that, 42 would give more leeway!
@Jasper.007 Keep saying stupid things. The term "climate change" is about the current consensus on ANTHROPOGENIC climate change. Is "anthropogenic" too big of a word for your tiny little anti-vaxxer head?
@@Costa_Conn Obese Angels are kept away from the public eye , they are bad for the brand. You never see black or disabled angels either.
@Jasper.007It has, just not in the ways humans are changing it now. 😅
I love you stuff Susan. Keep it up.
👏 Thanks for pinpointing Campbell's attempt to wriggle away from criticisms, Dr Susan. Accurate criticism can't be confused with censorship.
Campbell is evidence that if you step outside your field of expertise you really don't know all the intricate details and are ignorant but with a dangerous little fragment of misinformation. That of course is giving him the benefit of the doubt that he is not just a grifter.
By the way, Australia did a great job delaying the pandemic to buy time for people to get vaccinated. That saved thousands of lives. Campbell should talk about that instead!
funny how many died despite the vaccine uptake!!!!????
@@rosahughes7184 "funny how many died despite the vaccine uptake!!!!????"
Here are the death rates per million since the start of the pandemic:
- USA: 3,493
- UK: 3,331
- AUSTRALIA: 850
This is the result of the success of the lockdowns and other mitigation methods in delaying COVID-19 cases until 80-95% of the population over the adult population was vaccinated AND the result of the success of the vaccinations in saving lives.
Why is it a foregone conclusion that the vaccines were the only way out? It wasn't mentioned for the first 6 months.
It's almost like it was the plan all along regardless of how the pandemic played out.
@@andrewditton7226What? Vaccination is the way out of a pandemic. As soon as SARS-CoV2 was sequenced, the search for vaccines began. Given that you say you watch Dr Oliver's videos, you have access to the references she uses, so study them.
@@andrewditton7226 You're quite the prolific troll, aren't you?
Thank you once again. Selective use of statistics has been a particular feature of this pandemic, but Campbell is one of the worst offenders.
Dispiriting to see that Jimmy Dore is still promoting Campbell as "the Science" - I csn only presume that this kind of patronage keeps Campbell's numbers buoyant with the US audience (do they love our authoritative British accent?).
is jimmy door a scientist.
I did read once he was comedian, yet he is not funny
Spot on, conspiracy theorists and anti Vaxers never consider the full spectrum of information but selectively seek then exaggerate anything they think somehow supports their agenda. And he is so persistent at it really it is hard to believe it is ignorance and lack of area specific qualification and knowledge which takes him there, rather than feeding his eager, paying audience with what they want to hear.
Yes you are right totally. Once he went viral with a new gullible USA audience it went to his head. All the famous faces, British MPs endorcing him. The anti Vax have a limited pool of true practicing virology experts to choose from. John is a former psychiatric nurse and nurse educator. As Susan points out the stuff he has done there is critically commended. She is fair to him and his past work. The irony is his well paced and clear narration, yes the British accent too, practiced in his video work, helps make him seem more authoritative and convincing to his gullible friends in the USA.
He sure doesn't let unfavourable statistics get in the way of an exciting story.
Oops dying from covid! Glad I got vaccinated, silly Harry!
Strange the way he’s gone.
He has sold out for RUclips $$$$$$ - he won’t be the 1st nor the last to do this. Just all part of the infotainment game in 2023.
@@mimo8936 A BBC Radio 4 podcast I'm listening to at the moment: "Fake Psychic. Vicky Baker investigates the stranger-than-fiction story of Lamar Keene, a renowned psychic who confessed to being part of an underground network he called the "psychic mafia""
Parts of it bring Campbell to mind. We can only surmise what goes on in Campbell's head but if a major con artist had pangs of guilt then I'd expect Campbell does to.
There's also a Guardian article about him: "Scam the bereaved, defraud the dead: the shocking crimes of America’s greatest psychic conman". Not far from Campbell's ghoulish excess death exploitation when you think about it.
From the transcript:
He could feel like a big shot among his own circle but as soon as he stepped into the real world he was a nobody again or worse than a nobody he was a suspected fraud. He felt society looking down on him with disdain. All this time he'd been trying to inject glamour into his lifestyle by dressing well and buying fancy things but deep down he knew he couldn't buy respectability. Shame about all the misdeeds that had got him here was now catching up with him...
@@MysticOblong I watched the mentality of cults and cult leaders on net flix recently. There is much in line with how certain tubers operate. Wouldn't be surprised if techniques have been studied. Ie keep the flock on the edge of their seats to maintain repeat custom, believe in a " truth" and follow it, us vs them anti MSM etc , tell them to check the links to studies whilst telling them the evidence speaks for itself, many brainwashing and manipulation techniques.
@@swally4704 the hypnotic green ink……………………
@@daver9505 lol yes
Thanks for the well presented information
Thank you. I really appreciate your support.
I love that you actually know how to do science 😢 poor john and his disciples smh
10:04 To be fair, he lives in England", so he probably has less idea about anything, than anyone living in Aussie.
He is just pissed they lost the cricket thanks to their stinking weather…. Oh well you win some you lose some.
“Mortality was 26 percent higher among insured 35-to-44-year-olds, and 19 percent higher for 25-to-34-year-olds, continuing a death spike that peaked in the third quarter of 2021 at a staggering 101 percent and 79 percent above normal, respectively.
“COVID-19 claims do not fully explain the increase in incurred claim incidence,” the Society said. COVID-19 deaths dropped 84 percent from the first three quarters of 2021 to the same period in 2023.”
You can find the rest of this article in The Hill.
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JC: "I'm going to respond to criticism that I either don't understand or am misrepresenting data by producing another video in which I misunderstand/mis-represent data."
All grift to the mill for JC
By reading out comments.... impressive...
I think you should be nominated for an Oscar for that great acting!😆
All joking aside...thanks for another informative video.
Back to the science ? Is this the science that WEF owns ?
Sounds like a conspiracy to me. Care to back it up?
@@gustavreinholdhammerichnor8403 WEF has stated "They own the science" , There words well the science surrounding the Clot shot .
"Owning the science? Well, get your facts correct first. Melissa Flemming from the UN said that, referring to climate change and how mainstream science is suppressed in algorithms at Google. Does that imply you actually own the science, and is that even possible? Or could it by any chance mean that certain claims can be backed up by science, and therefore the expression 'owning the science' just means that the weight of evidence to back up claims is huge? It's like if I 'own' you with better facts or data that can be checked and reproduced, etc. Because if you imply that science can be owned by anyone, you don't really understand how science works anyway, and there is no logic in having a debate before you do."
Campbell is not going back to his more reasonable previous self. Sunday's video: "The Great Silence from around the world. We're not hearing about it from politicians. We're not hearing about it from, uh, election candidates. With a possible exception of Robert Kennedy, actually."
The man who claimed Spanish flu wasnt cause by flu. It was a bacteria... and a vaccine....
Oh interesting, is JC a fan of RFK? Haven't watched JC vids in a long time (life's too short), but I seem to recall him in an earlier video stating that Children's Health Defence was an antivax site. I wonder if he would stand by that statement now? That said I believe JC video linked to some conference with Del Bigtree there, so maybe he's fully embraced the antivax thing.
@@aquaticape7542 half a billion views and counting...a million pounds and counting.
Aiming to be the new Andrew Wakefield
Campbell is going where the money $$$ is.
Campbe££ should forget RFK Jr. The really knowing antivax kiddies put their faith in JFK Jr.
Imagine speaking to Senator Rennick for credible information 😂
How is Senator Rennick not credible???????
@@rosahughes7184 lol
@@rosahughes7184 that's a joke right? Maybe you are not in Australia...
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In the same way that Andrew Bridgen M.P. (UK), Senator Ron Johnson (US) and Robert F Kennedy Jr 2024 presidential candidate (US), are not credible.
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"How is Senator Rennick not credible???????"
Wow! For a start, his own party has disindorsed him by demoting him to an unwinnable position on the senate ticket for the next election.
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What is sad is that I'm not shocked anymore with Campbell's 'doubling down' attitude. He has arrived at a conclusion that his audience will believe and is looking at data purely to confirm this. There is no science or statistics involved.
I don't understand where you're coming from. Campbell simply states official government department data and or peer reviewed studies.
@davidfookes8989 if you actually listened to the video, you'll see he just makes "official" stats up.
@@davidfookes8989 he reads it wrong. Blatantly usually, most viewers would not believe they are being duped by their hero.
Science is observation and civilized debate - not the sort of science Anthony Fauci believes in, wherein he publicly stated that 'he is the science'. I find it incredible, following covid, that anyone can believe a single word emanating from governments, their agencies, MSM and Big Pharma. Do a search of Pfizer's track record for safety and ethics; they have a list of criminal convictions as long as your arm. Pfizer received the biggest fine in US history as part of a US $2.3 billion dollar plea deal with federal prosecutors for mis-promoting medicines (Bextra, Celebrex) and paying kick-backs to compliant doctors. But that's just one of countless criminal convictions. BTW, were you aware that the TGA receives over 95% of its funding from private sources: the majority of it from pharmaceutical companies.
@@calvinbrowne2126 I actually do listen to his videos and also conduct a search on the sources of his information. To date Campbell has been 100% correct on all. Could you be more specific and show me which "official" stats you're referring to.
5:32 including the negative 2020 figures in the five year average exaggerates the excess deaths in subsequent years.
Tyvm
Thanks for you work and effort Dr Susan,
There are three degrees of falsehood: lies; damned lies; and John Campbell's use of statistics.
Great work, Susan. I’m now waiting for Campbell’s video on the Hippocratic oath, along with a tally of how many exce$$ death$ misinformation has caused.
Sadly, only doctors (medical) are required to take the Hippocratic oath in the UK. As a former nurse, Mr Campbell (PhD) is not subject to it and any video on the matter would potentially be as ill-informed as the rest of his current output.
For clarification, his PhD was awarded for: ". . . his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos."
Sounds like media studies to me.
@@mark140363It does seem incredible that a PhD can be awarded for writing a thesis on how to teach nurses via RUclips. It degrades the worth of the title somewhat.
@@akaWooders the subject should not be as important as the quality of work, but the thesis we have both probably seen does appear to be weak tee. It feels about the amount of work I put into a field study that contributed to way less than 10% of my degree.
@@akaWooders I haven't read his thesis, so don't know. But in general I don't see a problem with awarding Ph.D.s for new ideas in education. It was a while ago, so maybe that was a novel idea back then.
@@akaWooders to be fair he paid good money for it - The online university of Bradford ...or Bolton... doesnt come cheap...
2:39 Dr Susan, John has misinterpreted the Australian Bureau of statistics data twice now. I thought had he portrayed it wrong but no he described it the same as he did with the Senator the day before.
So, when he says in October 2021 there was 7,129 excess deaths this is a lie. Surely he knows that is the ACCUMULATIVE figure from the beginning of 2021 and the difference as the months progress ( ie. the difference in numbers of reported deaths between 2020 and 2021 ).
He reads it on both videos as if those are that months excess not the sum increasing for the year (2021).
Now, there is no evidence here at all for any excess as the figures in 2019 WERE THE SAME AS 2021.
There is a large accumulative ie 7, 129 by October 2021 as deaths dropped sharply in 2020.
I'm shocked I just noticed this. No wonder he does not add a link to that data on both videos.
His viewers think in October 2021 alone for that month there was 7,129 excess deaths, it is completely interpreted wrong.
Even at the top of the sheet someone has scribbled overall mortality and he chose to still read it wrong.
Edited for spelling mistakes
I still can't get over how Campbell responded to the criticism of his misinformation with....more misinformation.
@@SusanshillOliver-oo9oi Is there anything sadder than making a fake account like this?
@@SusanshillOliver-oo9oi pathetic
good to hear rebuttal from Australia. Dr John is often citing Australia now with various senators raising vaccine harms scares there. He now is citing some Australian senator who claims the vaccine harms surveillance system under reported by a factor of 90 or something unbelievable, but Dr John cites this as gospel and invites them on the show.
I'm an Australian and Dr John often has no idea about the other countries he is reporting on. This is a reason why I stopped paying attention to his channel even before he started changing his stance. He cherry picks any data out there without providing full context all the time - anybody can do that to 'prove' virtually any point that they want. I watched and read so much of the public information while we were in our lockdown period - enough to know that he was blatantly misrepresenting so much of it, or obtaining his 'information' from what everyone here knows are sensationalist tabloids. All that exposed Dr John for me. I wish he had stuck to what he did best - providing good, helpful and practical health advice as he did early in the pandemic before he started becoming increasingly political from one extreme to the other.
Yet another thorough debunking, thank you for the effort and time you put into it Dr S.
Oh dear got to justify the grift. Embarrassing John
Interesting. Ive been watching Dr John Campbell for the last three years since Covid and came to the conclusion by myself that he is a Chicken Little ...
Good one 😂😂👏
Love your content. Thank you for keeping up the good fight!
Thank you Susan. I cannot understand why RUclips and Twitter still give this clown a platform.
YT: well the conspiracy stuff is popular. Twitter.. I mean, these days, do you really have to ask yourself why Twitter is ok with grifters circulating conspiracy stuff popular in right wing circles? Seems like a main reason for Elon buying Twitter was to promote the conspiracy stuff.
one word "MONEY"
@@aquaticape7542 I hate the new logo. It's so negative.
@@Lily-Bravo I only realised that was a thing yesterday tbh 🙂Not been on there for ages.
She just can’t get him out of her head, besotted basically 😆
9:07 I think there was a similar increase in excess deaths in the U.K. around the same time.
10:26 The winter of 2017/2018 was prolonged and cold.
12:52 there are papers covering the 1918/19 pandemic that suggest a positive excess deaths in younger people from 1920 onwards, 65+ excess deaths were negative until 1925.
Storm Emma plus the freezing Beast from the East. I consider myself reasonably physically fit and generally resilient, but I was tired after them.
Hi. Another excellent video. Thank you. I wondered if you have done one on John Ionnadis? I`ve had someone criticising Campbell, but championing Ionnadis as "truth". There seems to have been a similar change in his focus.
Thank you. I haven't made anything about Ionnadis. I think he has been covered on the Science Based Medicine blog.
Orac on Respectful Insolence documented Ioannidis' fall from grace, as well as multiple posts on Science Based Medicine. I believe Steven Novella may have also covered him on his blog, The Ness.
@@Backtothescience Ok, many thanks. I doubt, however , that many gainsayers will go to the Science Based Medicine blog. For me.this is part of the issue-many ppl get their "info" online-but anything with a "Science Based" name is unlikely to attract those who are already "anti". I am an ex EFL teacher, linguist, local historian & Tour Guide-one of my nerdy "beefs" is that, apparently some ppl`s Study Skills/Reading/Listening Comprehension Skills seriously impedes understanding, & maybe nourishes antipathy to a lot of sound & serious resources. I don`t wish to sound pompous or belittling, but there seems to be quite a lack of understanding how analysis & explanation of data/info works-& its manipulation. Thank you for all your sterling efforts. Sorry that` s a bit long., but I needed to say it.
@@jaykanta4326 yes, brilliant,thank you-, as I have said tho, a lot of ppl are prob unlikely to watch anything with "science-based" in its title, unfortunately.. This, for me, is a massive part of the issue, sadly. Extremely frustrating & rather depressing at times. the "all science is bogus" meme is a powerful one atm.
@@thehilliganI'd like to figure out if it's primarily an American thing (Trumpism) or if it's a worldwide movement to start dismissing scientists and scientific thinking. I'm already encouraging academics to leave the US due to the rise of a new fascism. Academics will be some of the first targets when the "them" needs to be refilled to maintain a grasp on the main (white) populace.
He wants to blame the jab. In his most recent vid, he asks why there is no debate on it. According to data, every week since the beginning of the rollout, to this week, more unjabbed have passed away per capita than have those jabbed. I would think that statistic alone would end his argument.
you need to do some independent research and wake up
@@rosahughes7184 What do you use as sources? I'm curious. When I said "data" I was referring to graphs and statistics from Our World In Data.
In his latest video he uses a clip of Andrew Bridge mp being interviewed and saying the excess deaths for last week were 21 %.....
So that's what viewers take at face value wow 21 % above the 5 year average.
Nice cherry picking as the clip is actually from 10th May 2023, and the week he mentions is week 16 ending 21st April 2023 whereby there was catch from Easter Bank holidays.
John fails to mention 3 weeks later is it back to just over 2 % in week 19.
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"you need to do some independent research and wake up'
Um...he just indicated that that is exactly what he did. Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about. Maybe the difference between you and him is that he has what it actually takes to do his own research competently.
The issue with "unvaccinated" data is that you're not considered to be so until 2 weeks after your latest. If you have 3, but 4 is "fully" you're "un"
So the disgusting ghouls are going after Bronny James. Orac identifies their tactics and evaluates the claims at RespectfulInsolence.
That is pure depravity and moral bankrupcy. I'm sure Dr David Gorski has something educational to say, however.
I read this and it was classic, NECESSARY Dr Gorski-isms. As far as I'm concerned, he is an American medical doctor hero.
The ghouls are picking out Sinéad O'Connor. They are warped.
@@DC-wt2vi She probably committed suicide, is my guess without solid evidence. Every death is from the YOu kNoW wHuT to anti-vax ghouls.
@@diandian9827No, she was obviously eliminated by the Irish Deep State.
any thoughts on the swiss study that concluded 1 case in 35 of sub clinical myocarditis as a result of the covid vaccine? peer reviewed and published.
Yes. Please see the following video: ruclips.net/video/VzP7JLDio8I/видео.html
I just love you're intelligence and this channel. (Edited to add) And Cindy too!
Get an x-ray of the Graphene HYDROXIDE spliced into the RNA, under the pineal gland, in your brain & see how "intelligent" she is 😂😂😂
@@Denise-ux4xd Would that a a normal X-ray or X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy?
Heehee.
@@BarbosaUral tides of laughter will turn, when everyone involved is £×£¢uted for WAR Crimes.
@@Denise-ux4xd Hahahahahha
I am sure glad Dr Susan brings the receipts and can explain it so clearly.
Just lucky to not have a reason to mix with the general public.. Maybe Nudge has the same reason
Dear Dr Oliver, you have focused on 2021. Could you please also explain the figures from 2022 that were also seen in this video but not explained?
Please see this video : ruclips.net/video/iL9iZLH_uoI/видео.html
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Wow, Campbell is so misleading at 2:35. So he's got a table which someone has typed out for him. He copies it so that the row descriptors are cut off. The number of deaths are for each month. But the bottom line isn't either the difference of 2021 and the average of the preceding 6 years, or the difference between 2020 and 2021 for each month, but the cumulative of that month plus the preceding months. So a glance at that suggests that for each month as you go through the year that they are increasing month on month. Clearly someone has decided to deliberately present it this way to give a very false impression. They know impressions count. Were they hoodwinking Campbell, knowing that he'd not question it, or was he in on it?
And again, they have typed Australian Bureau of Statistics at the top to give the impression that this graph has just been copied off an ABS document, not that it is one they have done themselves to deliberately misrepresent.
From the ABS Xs Mort ality report:
"Throughout this report, counts of deaths are compared to an average number of deaths for previous years. In this report, data for 2021 is compared to an average number of deaths recorded over the 5 years from 2015-2019 as was the case in previous publications. Data for 2022 is compared to a baseline comprising the years 2017-2019 and 2021. 2020 is not included in the baseline for 2022 data because it included periods where numbers of deaths were significantly lower than expected. Counts of deaths for 2015-2021 are included in the baseline datacubes of the data downloads section of this report."
Sheer co-incidence that the soup nurse or one of his kitchen-hands used 2020 to cook up those off the planet xs dea th number/s?
I'm glad you have brought this up. I tried to find that table yesterday. He says where it is from (but does not cite below). I also noticed the bottom line was an accumulation.
I have just posted this on both of Scambell's videos:
Lauren Moran, Director of Mortality Statistics at the ABS, has noted that the death rate was lower in 2021 than in 2019.
In this video ruclips.net/video/ymFwcCbe000/видео.html, Dr Susan Oliver
- points out that the ABS calculated that the number of deaths above usual variation for the whole of 2021 was 355
- explains why the >7,000 calculated by Dr Campbell (or Senator Rennick?) is so spectacularly wrong
Misinformation from nurse-educator Campbell? No way?! That's unpossible.
My favourite video clip was when he tried to explain auto immunity - and demonstrated normal immunity. He is just as thick as two short planks.
He knows that the attention and money comes from controversy. I think it’s useful to remember that this man’s credentials are shaky at best. He’s not a scientist or a doctor and his PhD is in nursing education.
John's PhD was awarded in recognition of his development of new ways to present educational materials, such as RUclips videos, podcasts and ebooks [...]
"Double Doctorates". _Connect (Newsletter)._ University of Cumbria (Autumn), 2013.
He is starting to look more and more deranged, not sure if that's theatrics.
A thorough job, as usual! Brilliant work! Thank you.
Excellent, as always! ❤
Huh, I never thought I'd see the day Charlatan Campbell responds to criticism. Of course, he had to lie as usual. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to bring Ol' Luci a cup of hot cocoa since Hell just got a cold snap. I often said Hell would freeze over the day Campbell responded to criticism honestly, so I was half right.
He ignored WHO the criticisms were coming from, expectedly.
@@jaykanta4326I guess he didn't C D Criticisms coming.
Why bother with serious statistics when primary school maths also does it? 😅 Keep up the good work Dr. Oliver