Kurt Angle Show #3: WrestleMania 35 & Retirement
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2021
- On this episode of The Kurt Angle Show, LISTEN as the guys revisit Kurt Angle’s "farewell tour" on the Road to WrestleMania 35 and his final match, which took place on April 7, 2019, at Metlife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ. What lead up to the event? How did he learn who his opponent would be? What did he think about the prospect of facing Baron Corbin? Why not John Cena? What did he think about the match itself? What transpired the following night on Raw? So much to unpack on Episode 3 of The Kurt Angle Show!
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I've watched WWE for 19 years. The only time I ever stopped, was for one month after Wrestlemania 35 because of how upset at how they did you Kurt. Respect for doing it though.
Damn I'm surprised WWE is still in business after you stopped watching
While I am just one viewer, one loyal person like myself leaving is representing lots of people displeased with the booking of that segment. I wasnt the only one to stop watching as viewership was down heavily after 35. Droves left in 2009 for similar reasons. Try to rub a few brain cells together when you reapond.
Matr Pierce piss off
The whole thing stinks of Stephanie's horrible creative team and the influence of Triple H which was always threatened by Kurt's natural talent. Angle is incredibly humble here but man, he deserved better and so did the fans. Such an underwhelming ending to a legendary career. Kurt should heal up and go to AEW.
This is gonna be a good one. I know he didn’t want Corbin to be his last match
...and he's been pretty transparent and upfront with his feelings thus far so I expect to hear what really happened.
It should of been cena . McMahons an asshole for that
And they didn't draw a fucking dime 🤦🏿♂️ there was absolutely no reason for him to LOSE to a Corbin-type AT WM! In his RETIREMENT MATCH! Smh
I absolutely *ADORE* this new podcast. So refreshing to hear someone so genuine, honest, and humble talking about things we really want to know about. This is easily going to become the number-one podcast.
Its awesome!! That intro gotta go "how big is Batista's" c'mon every episode 😑😒
Looking forward to the Daniel Puder episode
Hmm.
Lame.
He has every right to be bitter, but isn’t, and still won’t bury the boss. Angle is the GOAT and an angel and a national treasure
I don’t think Conrad gets enough credit for his contribution of information to us. Hearing Eric, Jim, Kurt, and Bruce talk about real experiences is awesome!
Full and total agreement. He prepares the meal well. We get to feast!
Dont forget Arn
@Steven Cook 🙏. Steve
I don't listen to the Bruce one as I have trouble believing anything he says, but Conrad is the man.
We need a King of the Ring 2001 episode! Kurt vs Shane in one of the best matches (that gets swept under the rug because Shane gets straight thrown through 2 panes of glass) in WWE history!
I did a review for the King of the Ring 2001 on my RUclips Channel about a week or so ago, check it out if you can. I thought that PPV compared to HIAC 2021 was presented way better than the bs WWE does these days. Even before the Pandemic WWE was phoning it in for their PPVs before March 2020.
I know Kurt probably didn't like putting over Drew, but for me that was the match that made Drew a star. It was the main event and Kurt tapped to his own move. Made drew look like a beast.
Kurt has such a unique perspective on wrestling. He has an artist quality about him w his passion, sensitivity, and raw ability.
Zack Taylor- Agreed--on all counts!...
Yes Kurt Angle is a legend. I honestly believe Vince had a vendetta against Kurt for leaving for TNA. I really believe that.
Kurt just admitted here on this episode
Also Stephanie's horrible creative team with way too much Triple H influence has ran that company into the ground. Kurt deserved better on his way out.
Would love to see Kurt do a few watch alongs of some of his iconic matches. Asking for a friend 😁😁😁
For all the things that Kurt Angle has accomplished, he is so humble!
Great show as always. Look forward to this at the end of the week /wkend. 👍
You guys put on a good show. I enjoy listening
Appreciate the humility and honesty from Kurt.
SIr, you deserved John Cena.
He deserved the match he wanted, absolutely. Kurt is a legend.
Cena could of done something about that but he’s a yes man
@@AD-ur1fk Nope. Vince made the choice.
Really enjoying the podcast so far. Kurt comes across very likable.
Really can't wait till we start getting into the juicy stuff in his first run like your first episode !
Oh. My. God. Kurt angle’s idea for Jason Jordan and chad gable was exactly my thoughts at the time. They seemed Taylor made to be the apprentices or angle. And cena At mania? That makes perfect sense. It would have been amazing. They did Kurt dirty
Kurt, thanks for being honest and telling us the truth when it comes to your feelings about the situations you faced here. It makes it worth listening to, because it's how you actually feel and think. And you still are polite about it.
I LOVE Kurt Angle. He has had an amazing career and was easily my favorite immediately since I competed in collegiate wrestling since I was young. He has definitely put himself through the ringer in regards to his physical health, even before he was a performer. I hate to bring this up because it does sadden me a bit, and maybe it is just part of getting older........but this is 3/3 for Kurt talking about a topic and him literally apologizing to Conrad about completely forgetting about what he was taking about. Did this stand out to anyone else?
Kurt you deserved so much better.
Thanks Mr Hand
Where can we get kurt angle show shirts please, thanks.
Kurt you deserved so much better on your way out. Vince should have given you a better match and booking on your way out. I'm sure his son in law had a lot of influence in downplaying your return and booking your subsequent losses. You were always better and HHH was always threatened by your natural talent and charisma. You are a legend and will be remembered much longer than most, despite the way they booked your retirement. It's TRUE. Its true!
this video of ads has some interesting breaks with wrestler kurt angle
Anyone got a time stamp for when he speaks on him teaming with the shield?
No. Just listen in its entirety
Kurt had to job cause when he kept walking in vkm smelled that stinch of Tna, bro
The Kurt Angle Show- Kurt Angle's last match should've been against John Cena at 'WWE WrestleMania 35'.
This.
How were they able to record this podcast, exactly?...
Also, is it just me, or, does it sound like when Kurt Angle talks, it sometimes sounds like the audio is glitching out/freezing/etc.?...
Bischoff and Bruce had some crappy audio in the beginning as well, give it time,l
Oh its true, oh its damn true, he is a wrestling machine!
It is bad
Is there like a Conrad Central?
Ryback said it best about Triple H,he has to make sure it's all about him. Damn near 25 minutes against Batista & Kurt's match is 5 minutes. WOW!!!
Also Kurt was right to not sign that Legends deal. The minute WWE finds out he started his fitness company, WWE wants in on the profits too
TBH...... What match is more intrigued...?
ANGLE vs CORBIN
or
HHH vs BATISTA....
@@keithcrockett7838 yes. Who?
It still drives me nuts that Kurt Angle's final match had to be against Baron Corbin.
I would've much rather had it against John Cena, or, The Undertaker, or, something like that...
I just saw that two years ago I posted a pissed off comment here I am again listening and still am upset that Kurt didn’t get a proper send off I don’t know why I’m more angry than Kurt but damn he deserves so much better
Kurt is the best me and my friend met kurt at a ⛽ gas station he's a 😎 cool dude
The death of superman
Kurts mic needs sorting out if youre having ads
I was pissed with this match. With benoit dying and eddie dying . I though kurt was gonna be the one to end his career right. Still pissed!
I’ve noticed a pattern, Kurt plays it extremely safe when asked hardball questions, especially about WWE and when the question can veer into negative territory. He just falls into this “I was just doing my job hehe” pattern of not addressing it too directly.
There is no benefit to outright bash them. I mean, C'mon.
He is correct on "just doing what he was asked." That's your job. That's what you get paid to do. We don't always agree with decisions our bosses make, but we do it anyway because it is our job.
I think in the areas where it is necessary he has been more than transparent about his displeasure on certain-decisions made by WWE management. He doesn't need to go any deeper. He _knows_ that we know.
I never said he needs to bash them. It’s just not interesting when that’s all he’s gonna say.
And if you’re just going to go down the road of defense by saying “he doesn’t need to go any deeper, he KNOWS we know.”, why discuss anything? Isn’t that the point of these podcasts, to go deeper and give us insight into things most people don’t know about?
@@cameronfowler3381 That's what most podcasts are though. Don't listen to Bruces podcast then
@@Radenc I love Bruce podcast
They did Angle dirty. They needed to have Angle vs Cena for the last match. Give Cena the win but atleast have him go with an opponent who was on similar level.
Perc Angle is the GOAT
The man has the constitution of a moose. The amount of pills he swallowed..... Jesus.
What did Kurt Angle mean by "losing a step" at 39:53-40:00?...
Also, I don't think Kurt Angle has lost any steps, to begin with because if you really think about it, look at how great a shape he's in.
He means wrestling wise
definitely getting another match lol
Kurt's too nice and humble to say it, so I'll just throw out there that WWE did him wrong and totally disrespected him as a TRUE legend during his return. Every other old guy they have rolled the red carpet out for and even gave world title runs and main events at Wrestlemania. What does Kurt do? Lose to a bunch of nobodies and rehash a dead feud with Corbin as his retirement match in a buffer slot at Mania to no fanfare. I understand Kurt was limited, but they could have sent him off with some dignity instead of making him out to be an old, washed up, goof for a year.
McMahons an asshole. He’s probably still bitter that Kurt went to tna
Kurt's a tna guy in all fairness... Not that I see him as that, but he was there longer technically
@@exquisitelemonade3039 He was in TNA longer but he is a WWE legend. He pretty much did everything one could do as a wrestler in WWE in the 6 or 7 years he was there. Just because he spent a few more years in TNA doesnt make him a "TNA guy" in the way someone may view AJ or Joe. And Kurt's TNA run was some of his best stuff but he's every bit a WWE legend and was a made man before he went to TNA
@@Coffee-Stain-Music I agree but I'm talking about in Vince's view of things, to me Kurt is a wwe guy moreso but Vince probably feels peeved that Kurt stayed there longer, got the feeling that stuff always mattered to him.
@@exquisitelemonade3039 The weird thing is even if I went with this line of thinking for Vince, there's Goldberg who is pretty much 100% a "WCW guy", a legit top guy from a company Vince actually considered a rival and the way he's been used has been a dream farewell for a legend.
Kurt does later mention here that he suspects WWE may be bitter about his departure in 2006 and going to TNA and I think that does have a lot to do with it.
It should have been The Undertaker vs Kurt Angle or Kurt Angle vs Goldberg at WrestleMania 35.
It should've been Cena.
Ask kurt what he thinks of perc angle?
Lolz
Guessing your all perfect...Where is your WWE hall of fame resume? I don't have one.
Kurt knows the product suxs.
They showed Goldberg more Respect than Angle. Which is a Dam Shame. With the same level of protection Angle would have been more productive.
He didn’t have be WHC but he could have had a last run as US Champion and put a spotlight on the Belt.
Please fix mic
I just popped a bean and I'm off a helicopter
Lolz
Chad Gable hasn’t been Shorty G for awhile guys.
For a company that gave everything to kurt and tried to help him before his exit and with everything that happened being he ditched out on em for TNA for well over half of his professional career, you can't put much blame on Vince/WWE. Wish it didn't have to be, but the reasoning is glaring
I think vince is very forgiveful, but I think its safe to say he doesn't forget
Do we really need 2 commercials after every question?
What's funny but damn true.. if kurt would've talked to cena about that last wrestlemania match cena would've did.. cena is that type of guy
Should've got cena. We know it's because he was in tna politics.
KURT IS MY ALL TIME FAVROTE ,I GO TO WAR WITH HIM ANY TIME
It's a shame Jason Jordan got injured. It made more sense for him to retire Angle than Corbin.
I think frustrating fans can work with wrestling but in moderation. Fans being frustrated with how Daniel Bryan was booked going to WM30 worked with the final payoff. However wwe frustrates fans all the time nowadays with how they book (wether they mean to or not) to the point where they don’t want to watch anymore
Vince gave you Corbin out of spite of you leaving him in 2006 to join TNA. If he respected and loved you, he would of waited and made sure your final match was one to remember for years to come. I personally did not bother with your last match, Kurt. It wasn’t right. You did not fucking deserve that. For the career you had, that was a spit in your face by Vince.
I didn't watch it either. I rarely watch WWE now and enjoy other promotions instead but Kurt is forever the GOAT in my eyes.
Massive Kurt Angle fan, but this ending of his career... why it was not John Cena in that WrestleMania I'll never know. They could easily use Baron Corbin in Undertaker's match. At least Taker had a proper send off.
Kurt Angle deserved a much better last match then Baron Corbin
1:27
Is that why Chad gable is still not being managed by Kurt angle to build the next wrestling machine
Kurt Angle should've gotten a better opponent for his last match.
Chad could easily be AEWS kurt angle. And im all about that.
Be a friend and timestamp me that Corbin topic, fellas
They picked Jason over Chad for a few reasons and I'm sure being "pc" had nothing to do with it. Even tho Chad was/is the better technical worker, Jason HAD (at the time) had more upside to him. His size, look, power, etc. And ok, he did check a specific demographic Chad didn't 🤷🏿♂️ American Alpha was/is one of my favorite tag teams. Both their matches against the Revival at the 2 Takeovers were some of the greatest tag matches in NXT.
13:34 Vince..just...cmon man. Angle wanted what we ALL wanted. He jumpstarted Cena and wanted Cens to retire him. Would've been FULL. CIRCLE. Maybe John was busy, idk, but blatantly refusing to do something so obviously correct is exactly why wrestling has fallen as it has.
Kurt sounds like Bret
Bro... I dont wanna diversify my bonds or consolidate my debt...aight? Let's get on with it
Embarrassing Kurt had to end his career losing to this clown who can't even get over with the audience
Hes the only true heel in the company
Corbin actually gets heat
@@Biggie2829 he gets go away heat from me.
@@itscominghome4791 exactly
@@Biggie2829 go away heat
Why would they give Kurt a massive send off when he spent the majority of his career in TNA over 11 years in TNA where he regular shit on Vince etc and only 6 years in WWE
Because he was one of their best wrestlers ever. He deserved it . Why does Goldberg get to get big matches after being in the company for only one year? Or what about when Brock shit on the company in 04 when they did everything for him?
@@AD-ur1fk Neither of these wrestlers have retired yet
I wish your last opponent would’ve been Chad Gable. Sort of a handing off of the torch from one Olympic athlete to the next. And Chad is much more talented than what they have him doing now. The thing is, they have kind of abused him and his talent for so long that I don’t know if people would buy anything else. Meaning, it would be up to him to get the people behind him enough to get the company to give him the push that he deserves. He obviously is very talented on the mic and in the ring. Sure, he’s a smaller guy… But so was Daniel Bryan and even guys like Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart, Chris Jericho.
Dolph Ziggler is another one they have abused. Much more talented than they ever give him credit for and the fact that they use him as a glorified jobber is just ridiculous. Ricochet is another one that they seemingly don’t know what to do with. The kid has lots of talent, though his mic skills are a little subdued… and unfortunately I don’t think he has the option to turn. He’ll because he just has that baby face kind of aura about him.
Mustafa Ali is another one. They should’ve gone with the hacker gimmick. I think it would’ve worked incredibly well for him. I think it still could. Something that may be he could work with ricochet doing. As they both can pull off that watchdogs video game vibe that would work with the gimmick. Essentially, them bringing down the establishment that holds them back. Which I think fans would get behind.
In any case, I appreciate you, Kurt, and everything you’ve done. You couldn’t have come at a better time for the business, because you put legitimacy behind a product that had seemingly sold out to gimmicks before you arrived. Between you and Brock and Steve Blackman, Ken Shamrock. It was a good time for Wrestling. So thank you.
Maybe Kurt can tell conrad how big batista is, do he can finally shut up about it.
2 inchez.. hard
You can tell Kurt is scared of sounding like a mark for protecting his persona, but in reality who cares? Kurt is a legend and he didn't deserve to job out to some B-listers during his last run with the WWE... I hate it when people go in on guys like Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, and Goldberg refuse to do jobs. Don't be ashamed to protect your legacy. F*** what these wrestling nerds think. Kurt deserved better.
It's like Tony Atlas said. As an Independent-Contractor it is *YOUR* responsibility and no one else's to protect your brand. The smart-wrestlers understand that and they have benefited from protecting their brand.
Hope they end up joking around more like with eric, tony, and bruce. These are just like long interviews.
I like these interviews
Kurt, I love you, but you're delusional if you think Vince listens to the fans. I'd like to hear what you really think about the afterthought match with Baron. It should've been Cena. If Vince is all about the draw and the money at WM, that should've been the match.
Why is the audio popping and farting
Refried beans
Hah, he listens to Dave Ramsey
GET RID OF THE CRINKLE CRUNKLES
Yeah, I'm not sure what that is about. Kurt does seem to have trouble remembering things or keeping his train of thought so maybe he's got notes at his station and that's the rustling we hear? Ida know. Kinda reminds me of listening to Jim Rome on the radio. :0)
I figured it was his dog.
And yes Kurt definitely is showing signs of either CTE or early Alzheimers
Whut?.
Yeah not there fault
It's the middleman.
There is an ad every 2 minutes
Cuz yo momma
They still have the annoying noises IL listen to podcast version don't have it in that
Love Kurt, but with all due respect, Kurt was noticably losing a step as far back as 2013.
He probably knew it wirthin himself all the way back in 2006, and that's perhaps a motivation for Perc Angle as well
Wrestlemania 35 was actually good
No. No it wasn't
@@brianmcdonald7017 never was
Your joking right? WM 35, was the worst long WM in history. The only things to check out on that WM is the WWE Title Match, Universal Title Match and a couple of other matches. The Triple Threat match involving the Women sucked, and people started leaving the arena because they were exhausted by the time that match took place.
The wwe hall of fame is political asf.
It's about money more than politics. Usually, every headliner at the WWE Hall Of Fame is heavily-marketed by WWE with merchandise, WWE Network material, and many other financial-ventures. Why do you think the Ultimate Warrior is in there? WWE is *STILL* cashing in off of his name.
Still upset it should of been John Cena
Corbin. Ugh. Should have been orton or Lesnar. Maybe even Shelton Benjamin. Just ugh
All hail. To your king. Baron Corbin
I’ve lost 24 pounds in 19 months with noom
Seems like a overabundance of ads. Kills the fluid of the show
There is 20 mins of ads in total on the Spotify version
Who is conman thompson and why does our Olympic hero associate himself with him 😭