And so the attack on the original Christian family......Jesus Mary and Joseph - continues . Thank you Gavin and I agree with you especially on your point regarding the demonic response to even the mere mention of Mary . Love and blessings from Sydney Australia .
What a wonderful, inspirational, scholarly talk on Mary, Mother of God, Mother of the Church and my Mother. Thank you Dr Ashenden! I’m so pleased God led me to you.
Wonderful beautiful! ..this short talk should be replayed in every Catholic school church and seminary … Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death. Amen!
This is just wonderful. The revulsion to Mary among many Anglicans is something I've never understood. Your talk sets out all the theological reasons why we should venerate the Mother of God. Thank you!
Thank you Dr Ashenden ! My Digital Spiritual Director😇😇😇 This podcast is one of your best. So deep and simple. It's all about Our Lady, Ark of the Covenent, God Bearer !!
Growing up in Ireland in the 60s, children learned about Our Blessed Lady from Church Devotions, Public processions , Rosary crusades and pilgrimages. The words of the hymns such as the Marian anthems, left us in no doubt that Mary is God's Mother/ Queen of Heaven/ Ark of the Covenant and all the wonderful titles used to honour Our Lady. Where will today's children learn to honour Our Blessed Mother? If only this video could be shown in schools and churches. Please share widely!
Imelda a chara, Dia is Muire dhuit. I was in the Legion of Mary which is steeped in Marian devotion and the fruits were real substantial evangelization and lots of vocations to the priesthood and religious life. It seems that Our Lady makes it very easy for ordinary people to dive deeply into the mystery of Christ.
All I know is that the Western world has gone mad for turning its back on Jesus, and no longer believing in Him, nor understanding Mary’s unique relationship with him. Those once Christian societies (UK, Canada, USA etc) are displaying ever-greater degrees of insanity as they believe in everything else but Him. Lord, have mercy on us. Mary, pray for us.
I too came late to Mary from a previously protestant background. I found her at Loreto or rather she found me. Everything you said brings a deep echo from my heart.
This is so lovely Gavin and so timely.There is so much I could say but.... its best not to I think. Thank you for posting and teaching as you do so faithfully . Blessings to you and those you love and may Our Lord especially continue to bless the work He has called you to .
Always a great pleasure to listen to you, Dr Ashenden, but especially in this video and well in the very middle where you clarify wonderfully this indeed strange response of our Lord to his Mother at Cana: Ok beloved woman of God, I consent to bring it on also, now at this feast, as you once already consented to bring it on, when you said your yes to God. Like "you started it all, woman. But alright, I will follow now, and take it over from you, beloved mother, the weight and the grace" Those everlasting magnificent harmonics of the Gospels. May God grant you a hundrethfold of graces, Dr. Ashenden, you who always procures such beautiful gifts to us, especially also delicate things that belong to your innermost personal history. I shall take the rosary even more often in hand after your loving confession. Many greetings from Nazareth, in East-Flanders, Belgium
Thank you for this wonderful message Dr Ashenden. I had a very nice liaison with Fr John Abberton over the years on social media. I always intended to go and visit him as I myself attend Mass in the diocese of Leeds. Sadly, Fr Abberton passed away before I could pay him a visit. May his soul rest in peace.
Dear Doctor Ashenden, thank you for this explanation. I have waited all these years, (I am eighty years old), to hear this about Mary. I can meditate upon this new knowledge you have provided for us and with the help of God I will come to know her and learn to venerate her. Thank you. God bless.
Listening again. You know, I think this is your very best talk of all. A Catholic all my life with some time away among Evangelicals where at least I learnt much Scripture, I returned to my home and realised just how Scriptural were the prayers of the Mass! The Mass is Scripture. Of course! Even though I had been taught by the Sola Scriptura folk, that Catholics don't know the Bible, actually, yes I did...but hardly realised it. How I missed the holiness! How I missed the Eucharist while away! Theotokos, the God bearer is so wonderful. I learnt this during a sojourn with the lovely people of the Greek Orthodox church. Anyway, I am home by the grace of God. Whatever made me leave? I can talk about Mary, who I used to take for granted when young, as I took for granted most of the beautiful faith in which I had been raised. By His mercy, I am equipped with more knowledge along with restored faith, thank you very much Dr. Ashenden. God bless.
Dr. Gavin, please refer to the poem of the man God. The term is what is there STILL between you and me. (Maria Valtorta) God bless your work, it is meant for our times.
One exorcist said that in testing if a person was possessed or not, he would ask the person to say the Our Father. The demons can get themselves in that circumstance to say the Our Father, with great trouble. But they won't say the Hail Mary, can't.
Wonderful. Some years ago on the feast of the Assumption, a Catholic priest gave a homily in which he stated that Protestants have a point in believing that Catholics 'overdo' the veneration of Mary and that a Church that did so and so extravagantly but denied females ordination appeared to be a bit confused. I was unhappy about this being said at all but on her major feast was particularly upsetting. Years earlier I had read the words of an elderly priest saying that if you come across a priest who doesn't love Mary, run a mile. I didn't need to, he did the running with a lady of the parish shortly after and we never saw him again.
Somewhat late to the party, but the good Dr's message is timeless. Love his gentlemanly tactic of "kill them with kindness" ! He knows his protestant friends and dissenters are following his doctrinal journey. As a Catholic priest I always name Our Lord and Our Lady in the present tense. "Was and were" refer to the historicity of the Scriptures but Jesus and Mary are indeed gloriously alive in the present tense ! Dr. referred to some of the sources of Munifentissimus Deus and Ineffabilis Deus as seen in the two dogmatic papal texts without inflaming the dissenters by saying they are De Fide. Salvation is not possible without theological faith in these revealed dogmas. Protestants are known for their natural or emotional faith in scripture. But such defective faith without the true sacrament of baptism which imparts true faith, there is no salvation. Protestant "faith" however devotional and full of of conviction is nonetheless only a stepping stone to conversion to the one true religion. Using Our Lady's own words in the Magnificat was an apologetic stroke of genius. Understanding such pure Marian doctrine is a challenge to protestant crass ignorance. I could go on, but I do pray that the good doctor attends the TLM either in France or in the UK. It is the mass I celebrate exclusively. We are so bold as to call it the True Mass.
@@DrGAshenden If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary? The religious are ludicrous, avoided like the old women with too many cats. Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy. Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Who sends their children to prophet trade-school? If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary? These are the religious, the wolves in sheep's clothing. Even Jesus says faith is worthless or you could order mountains to move about. The scam works with faith & prayers, suggesting we all should travel with one foot in their fantasyland. Theologians acquire grand titles without certification from a deity, & project certainty using fantasyland vocabulary in an academic setting to compensate for lack of reason. We really should address the social acceptance of large numbers of people speaking a fantasyland vocabulary & openly indulging in the deceit of religious belief as a tool of fascism. It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killings. The Christians slapped their books on the Old Testament, & the Mormons glued theirs on to them both, thus proving Christians lack quality-control. As if God does not have a perfect record of doing nothing, as if we had no reason for the saying: God helps those helping themselves.
Thank you for you wonderful teaching on Our Blessed Mother. St Maxmilian Kolbe, a Martyr in Auschwitz said "you can never Love Our Blessed Mother too much as you will never love her more than Jesus does" As a Catholic, true devotion to Mary is a spiritual grace given by God and is like all grace, not easy to explain but has to be experienced. The Angel Gabriel said to Mary "Hail full of Grace the Lord is with you". Mary was chosen by God and the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and Jesus was conceived in Marys womb. Mary was the tabernacle of Jesus for Nine Months, she is the "Theokotas" the God bearer and the mother of the Mystical Body the Church. She remains our spiritual mother to the end of time, in this world and eternity outside of time and Space. The miracle of Knock in Ireland in 1879 is a small example of lifting of the veil and the role of Our Blessed Mother, who appeared with St Joseph and St John the Evangalist adoring the "Lamb of God" Our Blessed Mother is Queen of the heaven and Earth. My prayer is "in the presence of our Blessed Mother Mary, the Angels, Martyrs and Saint we give all praise, glory and thanksgiving to the Holy Trinity in heaven and Earth" . Ave Maria 🙏
Is it reasonable to believe that protestants fail to comprehend the concept of original sin, and therefore the veil is closed when it comes to Our Blessed Mother ?
One idea is that Jesus does everything we do, in this case we see him being obedient to the request of another person. At the start of his ministry we see him obedient to the Holy Spirit (going into the desert). And at the end of his ministry we see him obedient to the Father (going to the Cross).
Very helpful to a life long Anglican who has recently embraced Catholicism, only to find the local expression of Catholicism is more Anglican than Catholic. Do you have any advice as to how to thrive in our Lords service, in times like these? I am in Australia. Thank you for your work.
For something different you could look for the closest Latin Mass, Ordinariate or even Eastern Catholic Church. Don’t go anywhere that isn’t in full communion though. 🙂
Question: A very helpful analysis Dr Ashenden. Thank you. You refer to Elijah as 'dead' in this presentation (timed at 28:25 into your presentation) but was he not taken up 'alive' in a chariot of fire? Is this aspect not important when understanding the Holy Transfiguration of Christ and the relationship between The Law and The Prophets? I should be very interested to know. Thank you.
In Revelation 12 who else would it be other than Mary? It is the Church in the background. That pericope is a brief summary of the whole story of salvation history.
One of the problems I have is that the assumption of Mary was not taught before the end of the fourth century, and yet the Roman Church requires this as a compulsory doctrine, a doctrine not found in the New Testament.
if Our Lady only lived for 10/12 years after our lord then she maybe wasnt alive in ad60 (33+10/12 = AD43/45), but I have know knowledge of this, just a thought. Our lady is with us all, I have a feeling she spoke out loud directly to my wife last week in church, My wifes name is Mary and she turned around to me said "who shouted my name then". There was no a sound I could hear !
Interesting arguments but, at the end of the day, the apostles were silent on the issue of Mary. You cannot make of Mary more than the apostles did. The protestants are right.
JOHN 19:26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son 27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. 28 Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst. 29 Now there was a vessel set there full of vinegar. And they, putting a sponge full of vinegar about hyssop, put it to his mouth. 30 Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost.
Shakespeare has the king bidding Lancaster and York to pluck a rose each in token of amity but each chooses a different coloured rose - the rubicon is then crossed.
It seems Jesus manages to give several responses - "What now?" seems to mean I don't understand the situation. "My hour has not yet come" seems to mean "I understand what you are asking, but no." And then "I understand what you mean, and yes." And that's our progression often when God asks us to do something. And it covers the full gamut of possible responses.
It is said that Catholics do not worship Mary. Catholics pray to Mary, petition her, trust her to care and provide for them and guide them. I do not believe all Catholics do but it certainly is not outside Catholic belief to relate to Mary in the aforementioned ways. And it is said that Mary sometimes replies and makes requests of those who pray to her. Such prayer and trust and expectation should be made to and placed in God and Him alone. Scripture does not allow any communication with those who have passed from this life and yet in the Hail Mary she is asked to pray for "us siinners now and at the hour of our death" Then of course there is prayer to the saints for various kinds of help in various situations and answers sometimes happen as answers happen to those involved in new age beliefs. There is no warrant in scripture which allows us to speak to those who have passed from this life. We may indeed ask fellow believers this side of eternity to pray for us but not those who have already passed into eternity. The terrible thing about Marion belief is that it gives to Mary and saints a status and place in the life of a believer that belongs to Christ Jesus and Him alone.
yes a sinner who has a grave, like any Christ follower. Dr G Ashen-don '' I am in love' with the dead ....with Mary!'' (Little things count, it indicates a lot) What about Adam, Eve, Moses?. To state, I am 'fallen in love' with to any person in Scripture - is ridiculous, naive and disrespectful - and shows Dr G that clearly you don't have a clue. romantic love* that a man has for only for his wife, and vise versa, is not for any other person. Do you ''fall in love'' with your daughter? Your mother? A married woman? Of course not - it would be weird What next, '''Jesus is my boy friend?'' It's found as a heresy on social media. Delusional - the church gets worse. You are supposed to set an example, to love wisdom, discernment and integrity - instead of this clap trap
Also Jesus shares everything, in particular he shares his role with Mary, his partner in the salvation of the world, though he is the unique savior in that Mary is also saved from sin but at her conception.
@@trilbywilby7826 I agree completely. I suspect in Isaiah the Lord is speaking of the gods of the other nations. And there is no doubt that Jesus is the one mediator, in the sense that all goes to and through him.
Perhaps Jesus brought his disciples intentionally to the wedding, perhaps unannounced, so they would run out of wine, if they didn't know they all were coming.
So, why does the scripture say that there is ONE mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus? Does that not rule out the holy mother as a mediator?
@vonrecht1236 We honour Mary we do not worship her Worship is: sacrifice. Not! Singing and praying; we pray and sing to Mary; We don’t sacrifice. Veneration of Mary can even be seen in the catacombs way before the legalization of Christianity, hence the reason why Christians were forced to worship in secret in the catacombs.
At one point, you got your terms mixed up. You spoke of Mary as the 'bearer' of God, Theotokos. The 'bearer of God' is Theopheros... Theotokos is the 'mother' of God.
I know this comment is a bit off topic but as I'm struggling with an historical Eve, I was wondering what the reference to "the new Eve" meant? Cardinal Pell said that Genesis was to be seen as an allegory, that the Catholic Church accepted evolution to be the explanation for the origins of life. However, particularly in the US, there are repeated references to Adam and Eve being, our first parents, pivotal figures in human development, real people. So who's right, those American catholics or Cardinal Pell?
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church #390 "The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original sin of our first parents." Cardinal Pell knows the truth now.
The Blessed Virgin Mary is referred to as the new Eve and Christ as the new Adam. Cardinal Pell, God rest his soul, was wrong about evolution and this matter. For an interesting discussion about the total lack of evidence for the theory of evolution watch the you tube video Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution.
@kevinarmstrong6043 about evolution, you can breed from a wolf down to a pug dog, but! You can't breed from a pug dog back to a wolf, the reason behind this is the wolf has all the DNA of the pug dog plus plenty more. Man didn't come from monkeys or fish because they would have to have all the same DNA as man plus more and no other creature has all human DNA plus more. Besides why is it so hard to believe that human's come from humans. Also Jesus died on the cross to mend the bridge that was broken through original sin. If you look at the Bible there are patterns throughout, Abraham was not going to say no to God, he was prepared to sacrifice his son at God's request & at the last moment God stopped him and he was to offer a ram (a male sheep) that was caught by its horns in a bush that was nearby. In the Bible God offered his only begotten son (lamb of God) to be sacrificed for our salvation.
Just to be clear. You are saying the evolution is not relevant to human origins? Furthermore, you are saying that Cardinal Pell was wrong to suggest that evolution was the source of the origin? You are happy to take the view that the Genesis account does indeed use figurative language, but it also refers to an actual event? This is what really stumps me. People go to such lengths using word gymnastics and fail to see the contradictions in what they are proposing. The Catechism wants it both ways...it references evolution close to the same passage you have quoted but then does a double take! Thanks for taking the trouble to answer.It's something I've been wrestling with for a long time but most people just ignore what I ask, I'm wondering why?@@thomasmore4468
@@kevinarmstrong6043 For the avoidance of doubt, I quoted what the CCC says about our first parents. Cardinal Pell was wrong because there is no evidence for evolution of the species or that we (all life including human life) developed out of a little warm pond as Darwin posits. Evolution is a theory NOT proven fact. Darwin himself had doubts since the fossil record did not show what his theory suggested that it should have shown. I believe the Biblical account is factual and that it accounts for the sinful nature of man. I do not know how God walked in the garden with Adam and Eve as the Son of God had not yet taken on flesh and been made man, Man-God, Jesus. So I assume 'walked with them' is a figurative way to describe the actuality of God being actually present with them in the garden. I think the actual devil tempted Eve to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge. Books on this subject that I would recommend: The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions by David Berlinski. Darwin's Doubt by Stephen C. Meyer argues that scientists have found no way to account for the Cambrian explosion. Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design. There are plenty of books and videos out there on this matter. I personally do not use word gymnastics as you call them. Read the Church Fathers for insight into Genesis.
Thank you, Dr. Ashenden. Perhaps you will like this that I share: ANNUNCIATION by DOMENICO VENEZIANO The maiden was at her prayers, silent, removed from garden path and barrèd door. No whisper of wing, no footprint on path, Gabriel kneels before her, wondrous greeting giving; bringing the Word to her open heart. In time she will bring forth the Timeless One, incarnate. But now in a quiet corner she bows to her God within, and the angel kneels to both. E.M.R.H. 27 Dec. 2012 Note on ANNUNCIATION ... At the Incarnation, Heaven and earth in little space became one, as the English early Tudor hymn (ca 1420) puts it. Yet, the Incarnation began nine months earlier, in a happening rich with significance for a Christian life. Probably the truest, therefore the best, representation of that moment is the painting of the Annunciation by an artist of no great fame, Domenico Veneziano. In a bare room, without a prie-dieu or a prayer-book, the angel and Mary face each other. That she is hortus conclusus, an enclosed garden, is implied by the wall around the garden, whose door is shut. The path from it has no footprint. There is no dove descending in a ray of light. The angel genuflects even as his hand betokens a request. With crossed arms, Mary bows as though sheltering the One who is within. She has already spoken her “Behold the handmaid of the Lord”; already the Lord who sought her acquiescence has found in her his “little space”. It is a moment of heart-stopping mystical wonder, beauty, and love. Love, humility and obedience, without which there is no Christian life. In Judaeo-Christian tradition, the brightest angel, whose mind was nearest to God’s, fell, “like lightning from Heaven,” as Jesus once said, because he would not bend the knee to any of humankind. They were, as he judged, inferior to angels. He would not do it from obedience, nor even for love, and humility was unknown to the one who became The Adversary.
@Stupidityindex You are an atheist, Atheist's aren't deep thinkers, they wander aimlessly through life with no real thoughts or sense of purpose and are living a meaningless selfish life. Maybe you think that by putting Christian's down you might get some sort of argument; in hope that someone might validate your existence.
'FALL IN LOVE WITH HER' -- Please Sir, use some common sense. There are several types of love in the Greek, and romantic love* that a man has for only his wife, and vise versa, is not for any other person. Do you ''fall in love'' with your daughter? Your mother? Of course not - it would be weird '' I am in love' with the dead ....Mary, Adam, Eve? - to any person is Scripture is ridiculous, naive and disrespectful. - and shows clearly you don't have a clue. What next, '''Jesus is my boy friend?'' It's found as a heresy on social media. Delusional - the church gets worse. You are supposed to set an example, to love wisdom, discernment and integrity *Love types. others are brotherly/filial love, and the self denying love holy God has
I enjoy your talks and perspectives, Gavin, but any doctrine which takes away from the centrality of Christ in the gospel is severely suspect. Over-the-top reverence (worship?) for Mary is one such doctrine. She was born in sin and was a sinner, like everyone else. She needed a Saviour, like everyone else. Christ is the only Saviour, the only way to God. John said: He must increase and I must decrease. The pre-eminence and promotion of Mary in Catholic theology is, I would suggest, a complete contradiction of John's words, and a distraction from the person and work of the Lord Jesus for lost mankind.
Dear Paul, you can’t have listened to the talk? But if you have listened to it, could you address the theology rather than just representing Protestant sloganising? Bless you, and thank you.
Biblical 'slogans' are the best theology. Theological systems are two a penny. Christ must increase. Everyone else - Mary, Paul, John... must decrease. Christ is the one and only mediator and Saviour. The Word of God alone. Grace alone. Faith alone. Christ alone. God's glory alone. A focus on Mary, even blessed as she was, is an unnecessary distraction from the pure gospel. @@DrGAshenden
@@paulbriggsyFaith without works You are not saved by faith alone, but! by works of love. John 8:51 51 In all truth I tell you, whoever keeps my word will never see death. How do you keep Jesus' word? By doing what he asks of us! James 2:14-26 14) How does it help, my brothers, when someone who has never done a single good act claims to have faith? Will that faith bring salvation? 15) If one of the brothers or one of the sisters is in need of clothes and has not enough food to live on, 16) and one of you says to them, 'I wish you well; keep yourself warm and eat plenty,' without giving them these bare necessities of life, then what good is that? 17) In the same way faith, if good deeds do not go with it, is quite dead. 18) But someone may say: So you have faith and I have good deeds? Show me this faith of yours without deeds, then! It is by my deeds that I will show you my faith. 19) You believe in the one God -- that is creditable enough, but even the demons have the same belief, and they tremble with fear. 20) Fool! Would you not like to know that faith without deeds is useless? 21) Was not Abraham our father justified by his deed, because he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22) So you can see that his faith was working together with his deeds; his faith became perfect by what he did. 23) In this way the scripture was fulfilled: Abraham put his faith in God, and this was considered as making him upright; and he received the name 'friend of God'. 24) You see now that it is by deeds, and not only by believing, that someone is justified. 25) There is another example of the same kind: Rahab the prostitute, was she not justified by her deeds because she welcomed the messengers and showed them a different way to leave? 26 As a body without a spirit is dead, so is faith without deeds. Jeremiah 17: 10 I, Yahweh, search the heart, test the motives, to give each person what his conduct and actions deserve. Matthew 25:42-46 (faith without works) 42) For I was hungry and you never gave me food, I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink, 43) I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, lacking clothes and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me." 44) Then it will be their turn to ask, "Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty, a stranger or lacking clothes, sick or in prison, and did not come to your help?" 45) Then he will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to do it to me." 46) And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the upright to eternal life.' Romans 2:7 (Proof of the need for works) 7 For those who aimed for glory and honour and immortality by persevering in doing good, there will be eternal life. 1 Peter 2:12 Always behave honourable among pagans, so that they can see your good works for themselves. Matthew 7:21 21 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven. Matthew 25: 34-40 34 Then the King will say to those on his right hand, "Come, you whom my Father has blessed, take as your heritage the kingdom prepared for you since the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you made me welcome, 36 lacking clothes and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me." 37 Then the upright will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome, lacking clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we find you sick or in prison and go to see you?" 40 And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me." Revelation 14:13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say to me, 'Write down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord! Blessed indeed, the Spirit says; now they can rest for ever after their work, since their good deeds go with them.' (The deeds are what people carry with them to God's judgement). You can lose your salvation by: being unrepentant & harbouring unforgiveness. An unrepentant person knows that he or she has sinned and refuses to ask God for forgiveness or turn away from the sin. The unrepentant show no remorse for their wrongdoing and don’t feel the need to change. Unrepentance is the sin of willfully remaining sinful. Matthew 6: 14 if you forgive others their failings, your heavenly Father will forgive you yours; Matthew 6:15 but if you do not forgive others, your Father will not forgive your failings either. Matthew 7:21 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven. Matthew 7:24 Therefore, everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on rock. Mark 11:25 And when you stand in prayer, forgive whatever you have against anybody, so your Father in heaven may forgive your failings too.' Exodus 32:33, Yahweh said to Moses, 'Those who have sinned against me are the ones I shall blot out of my book. Hebrews 12: 14 Seek peace with all people, and the holiness without which no one can ever see the Lord. John 15: 6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a branch -- and withers; these branches are collected and thrown on the fire and are burnt. 1 John 4:20 Anyone who says 'I love God' and hates his brother, is a liar, since whoever does not love the brother whom he can see cannot love God whom he has not seen. You can lose your salvation 2 Peter 2:20-22 20) and anyone who has escaped the pollution of the world by coming to know our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and who then allows himself to be entangled and mastered by it a second time, ends up by being worse than he was before. 21) It would have been better for them never to have learnt the way of uprightness, than to learn it and then desert the holy commandment that was entrusted to them. 22) What they have done is exactly as the proverb rightly says: The dog goes back to its vomit and: As soon as the sow has been washed, it wallows in the mud. Ezekiel 18:24-26 24) 'But if the upright abandons uprightness and does wrong by copying all the loathsome practices of the wicked, is he to live? All his upright actions will be forgotten from then on; for the infidelity of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, he will most certainly die. 25) 'Now, you say, "What the Lord does is unjust." Now listen, House of Israel: is what I do unjust? Is it not what you do that is unjust? 26) When the upright abandons uprightness and does wrong and dies, he dies because of the wrong which he himself has done. Hebrews 10: 26 26) If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. Romans 11: 22 22) Remember God's severity as well as his goodness: his severity to those who fell, and his goodness to you as long as you persevere in it; if not, you too will be cut off.
Bad doctrine always leaves more questions than answers: Heb 5:7-9 "our Lord learn obedience through suffering" I think it is important Jesus lived a full human life which means imperfect human parents like all of us. Being fully human does not only mean a biological body but real life on earth. This super Mary doctrine flies in the fact of almost the whole of the book of Hebrew. Then there is the issue of free will Mary had to be able to choose or to have faith like every other human being the risk had to be real. and if Mary can get "spiritual cheat codes" why not other people why all this suffering when we get these cheat codes.
There are no “spiritual cheat codes”. Free of original sin, temptation still abounds. Personal choice, free will, is tough. Out Lord bore no sin, yet He too was tempted in the wilderness.
I have no problem with Mary she is a good faith-filll woman prime example of a goodly woman. However, it is important and critical that Mary remains "ordinary" . She is a sinner like every other human being on this planet and needs her sins atoned for by the sacrifice and grace of her Lord and my Lord Jesus the Christ and needed the infilling of the Holy Spirit The Prophet Isaiah says " A virgin will bring forth a child" the word was used of Moses sister watching over baby Moses. of Rebecca watering the Camels, always in the context of ordinary work and diligence symbolic of feminine care and protection. if Mary had said no or lacked faith God would have looked for someone else. This is not a problem. I think that is why she was not mentioned much in the bible because idiots with misplaced zeal would run around worshipping her. Stop this doctrine of "Super Mary". That second-eve stuff is a bit of a stretch it is just nostalgic garbage, The prophetic word was to "original" Eve her offspring's heel will bruce the head of the snake. I was purposely aggressive because bad doctrine breeds horrible consequences, and this mary rubbish may have been partially responsible for the rise of the Islamic heresy. Mary does not get "cheat codes" just because she birthed Jesus our Lord and God
I really hope you get some enlightenment regarding this especially as if someone dissed your mother in the way you just spoke about Our Lady I think you might smite them.
I am afraid to tell you that what you have written is frank heresy. The Second Eve was conceived without original sin and remained sinless until the end of her earthy life at which point she was take up body and soul into eternal glory where she sits at the right hand of her divine son. Anyone who disputes this truth makes a shipwreck of their faith and endangers their eternal salvation.
@midnightwatchman1 Mary was saved from sin: Mary was saved from sin by receiving the grace to be preserved from it. But she was still saved. Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed. St. Luke uses the perfect passive participle, kekaritomene, as his “name” for Mary. This word literally means “she who has been graced” in a completed sense. This verbal adjective, “graced,” is not just describing a simple past action. Greek has another tense for that. The perfect tense is used to indicate that an action has been completed in the past resulting in a present state of being. “Full of grace” is Mary’s name. So what does it tell us about Mary? Well, the average Christian is not completed in grace and in a permanent sense (see Phil. 3:8-12). But according to the angel, Mary is. You and I sin, not because of grace, but because of a lack of grace, or a lack of our cooperation with grace, in our lives. This greeting of the angel is one clue into the unique character and calling of the Mother of God. Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed. Jesus saved Mother Mary in a unique way, by preventing at the moment of her conception, free from being stained with original sin. Now, we do understand that the stain of original sin is inherited, passed on to every human being. By having Mary free of the stain of original sin, IT COULD NOT BE PASSED ON TO JESUS. Hence, Jesus did not inherit original sin, and was free of the stain of original sin. Not only that, God does not dwell in sin, so Jesus dwelled in the sinless, pure body of Blessed Mary. Immaculate means: free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean: free from moral blemish or impurity; pure. Eve was created sinless, pure, full of grace and good. Yet she said NO to God and disobeyed as did Adam. Thereby bringing death into the world and the inherited stain of original sin Mary too, was created "immaculate", full of grace, and pure and sinless. She had the choice to say NO, but with complete faith said YES to God. Her yes brought LIFE into the world (through Jesus and He conquered death). Mary, by her "yes" to God, through the Angel Gabriel, participated in the Redemptive act of Jesus. She was free to say "no" to God, just as Eve (and Adam) freely chose to say "no" to God. That is why she is also called Co-redemptrix. It is not saying Mary redeemed us (that alone is what Christ did by His dying for our redemption). "Co" means together, joining, such as a "co-worker ", "co-star", for example: a movie star is the main character of a scene, movie, and the supporting actors, are "co-stars", without whom there would be no movie! That is Mary's title, and rightly so, for by her "yes", fully trusting and believing in God, she participated in the Redemption of mankind. Jesus is the STAR, while she is the Co-star. Yes, Christ did give Mary as our Mother. St. John the Apostle became Mary's son, who cared for and protected her. When Jesus gave Mary as John's mother, He used "woman", thereby having double meaning. Not only did Jesus give Mary as mother to John, but this also meant as "woman", she is Mother of the Church. For we Christians are the "adopted" brothers and sisters of Jesus, (as Scripture tells us) and that makes Mary our beloved Mother.
@midnightwatchman1 Mary Queen of heaven The mere fact that worshipping someone called “queen of heaven” is condemned in Jeremiah 7 eliminates the possibility of Mary being the true Queen of Heaven and Earth. This simply does not follow. The existence of a counterfeit queen does not mean there can’t be an authentic one. This reasoning followed to its logical end would lead to abandoning the entire Christian Faith! We could not have a Bible because Hinduism, Islam, and many other false religions have “holy books.” We could not call Jesus Son of God because Zeus and Hera had Apollo, Isis and Osiris had Horus, etc. The fact that there was a false “queen of heaven” worshipped in ancient Mesopotamia does not negate the reality of the true queen who is honored as such in the kingdom of God. The Catholic Church does not teach-and has never taught-that we should adore Mary.
@midnightwatchman1 Explanation of Why Mary is Queen In the Old Testament it is shown that the Jewish people at the time, their Kings had wives but that the wives were not the Queen. In ancient Jewish law, the King's mother was the Queen. It was the Queen's responsibility to hear the needs and petitions of the common people and present those needs to her son the King. An example of this is Queen Ester. This is Mary's role in heaven, a role given to her by God. She is the mother of our King and she is the Queen who petitions for us. She is not worshipped because she has no power of her own. She is a human woman. But everything we petition her for, our prayers, our tears, our joys, she presents those things to her divine son for us. Yes, we can petition Jesus directly, but Jesus does listen to his mother most generously, as this is the role he gave her and this is the gift that he gave us. Before he physically left us, he gave us his presence in the Eucharist, a mother to petition for us, and comfort and guidance in the Holy Spirit."
And so the attack on the original Christian family......Jesus Mary and Joseph - continues . Thank you Gavin and I agree with you especially on your point regarding the demonic response to even the mere mention of Mary . Love and blessings from Sydney Australia .
What a wonderful, inspirational, scholarly talk on Mary, Mother of God, Mother of the Church and my Mother. Thank you Dr Ashenden! I’m so pleased God led me to you.
If I could give 100 "thumbs up" I would. God bless.
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Smiling out loud now and I so needed to. Thank you. Blessings to you and those you love, from Sydney Australia .@@declancooney1029
Wonderful beautiful! ..this short talk should be replayed in every Catholic school church and seminary …
Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death. Amen!
This is just wonderful. The revulsion to Mary among many Anglicans is something I've never understood. Your talk sets out all the theological reasons why we should venerate the Mother of God. Thank you!
Hi Gavin. This is the most beautiful sermon on the Blessed Virgin Mary that I have ever heard. May God bless you.
Amen !
The Greek Orthodox Church and her faithful revere The Theotokos.❤
Thank you for your wisdom today.
Thank you Dr Ashenden ! My Digital Spiritual Director😇😇😇 This podcast is one of your best. So deep and simple. It's all about Our Lady, Ark of the Covenent, God Bearer !!
Amazing isn't is...just amazing .
Wonderful, beautiful life giving truth. Well said Gavin. May many have hearts open to this message. Amen
Beautiful, heart-felt talk on Our Lady and why we honor her. Thank you.
Profound. Thank you for this excellent talk, from which I have learned many things.
Truly blessed and inspiring insights into sripture by Gavin.
Growing up in Ireland in the 60s, children learned about Our Blessed Lady from Church Devotions, Public processions , Rosary crusades and pilgrimages. The words of the hymns such as the Marian anthems, left us in no doubt that Mary is God's Mother/ Queen of Heaven/ Ark of the Covenant and all the wonderful titles used to honour Our Lady. Where will today's children learn to honour Our Blessed Mother? If only this video could be shown in schools and churches. Please share widely!
Such Marian idolatry
Imelda a chara,
Dia is Muire dhuit.
I was in the Legion of Mary which is steeped in Marian devotion and the fruits were real substantial evangelization and lots of vocations to the priesthood and religious life.
It seems that Our Lady makes it very easy for ordinary people to dive deeply into the mystery of Christ.
@@jimodonnell8752 Go mbeannaí Dia is Muire dhuit, a dhuine uasail !
All I know is that the Western world has gone mad for turning its back on Jesus, and no longer believing in Him, nor understanding Mary’s unique relationship with him. Those once Christian societies (UK, Canada, USA etc) are displaying ever-greater degrees of insanity as they believe in everything else but Him.
Lord, have mercy on us. Mary, pray for us.
I too came late to Mary from a previously protestant background. I found her at Loreto or rather she found me. Everything you said brings a deep echo from my heart.
Wonderful reflection. Thank You
☀️💛Sing to me of Mary! Beautiful sharing. God bless.
Thank You !!!! Soo helpful, as I started to learn about Mary couple days ago !!! Such a blessing as usual, Thank You !
Beautiful Doctor. Thank you.
This is so lovely Gavin and so timely.There is so much I could say but.... its best not to I think.
Thank you for posting and teaching as you do so faithfully . Blessings to you and those you love and may Our Lord especially continue to bless the work He has called you to .
Beautiful! Uplifting .. that is what I love about your talks !!
Always a great pleasure to listen to you, Dr Ashenden, but especially in this video and well in the very middle where you clarify wonderfully this indeed strange response of our Lord to his Mother at Cana: Ok beloved woman of God, I consent to bring it on also, now at this feast, as you once already consented to bring it on, when you said your yes to God. Like "you started it all, woman. But alright, I will follow now, and take it over from you, beloved mother, the weight and the grace" Those everlasting magnificent harmonics of the Gospels. May God grant you a hundrethfold of graces, Dr. Ashenden, you who always procures such beautiful gifts to us, especially also delicate things that belong to your innermost personal history. I shall take the rosary even more often in hand after your loving confession. Many greetings from Nazareth, in East-Flanders, Belgium
If one wants to adopt a new spiritual practice, just one, make it the rosary.
Thank you!
Thank you for this wonderful message Dr Ashenden. I had a very nice liaison with Fr John Abberton over the years on social media. I always intended to go and visit him as I myself attend Mass in the diocese of Leeds. Sadly, Fr Abberton passed away before I could pay him a visit. May his soul rest in peace.
Dear Doctor Ashenden, thank you for this explanation. I have waited all these years, (I am eighty years old), to hear this about Mary. I can meditate upon this new knowledge you have provided for us and with the help of God I will come to know her and learn to venerate her. Thank you. God bless.
Thank you Dr Ashenden, you bring out the beauty of the Church's teaching so well.
Thank you.
So sad you have lost your way so profoundly. Praying for you Dr A.
Thank you Dr Ashenden your talk is balm to the soul
The rosary is so powerful.
Very beautiful Thank you
Listening again. You know, I think this is your very best talk of all. A Catholic all my life with some time away among Evangelicals where at least I learnt much Scripture, I returned to my home and realised just how Scriptural were the prayers of the Mass! The Mass is Scripture. Of course! Even though I had been taught by the Sola Scriptura folk, that Catholics don't know the Bible, actually, yes I did...but hardly realised it. How I missed the holiness! How I missed the Eucharist while away! Theotokos, the God bearer is so wonderful. I learnt this during a sojourn with the lovely people of the Greek Orthodox church. Anyway, I am home by the grace of God. Whatever made me leave? I can talk about Mary, who I used to take for granted when young, as I took for granted most of the beautiful faith in which I had been raised. By His mercy, I am equipped with more knowledge along with restored faith, thank you very much Dr. Ashenden. God bless.
Doctor, thank you for sharing Our Lord and Our Lady this way.
A brilliant speech.
Dr. Gavin, please refer to the poem of the man God. The term is what is there STILL between you and me.
(Maria Valtorta)
God bless your work, it is meant for our times.
Thank you for these insights.
His knowledge is wonderful!
😂😂😂 I love tell out my soul🕊
One exorcist said that in testing if a person was possessed or not, he would ask the person to say the Our Father. The demons can get themselves in that circumstance to say the Our Father, with great trouble. But they won't say the Hail Mary, can't.
Thank you for this beautiful testimony to Our Beautiful Mother❤She brings souls to Jesus. Amen.
Wonderful. Some years ago on the feast of the Assumption, a Catholic priest gave a homily in which he stated that Protestants have a point in believing that Catholics 'overdo' the veneration of Mary and that a Church that did so and so extravagantly but denied females ordination appeared to be a bit confused. I was unhappy about this being said at all but on her major feast was particularly upsetting. Years earlier I had read the words of an elderly priest saying that if you come across a priest who doesn't love Mary, run a mile. I didn't need to, he did the running with a lady of the parish shortly after and we never saw him again.
Wonderfull! I wish you were the Pope.
Somewhat late to the party, but the good Dr's message is timeless.
Love his gentlemanly tactic of "kill them with kindness" !
He knows his protestant friends and dissenters are following his doctrinal journey.
As a Catholic priest I always name Our Lord and Our Lady in the present tense.
"Was and were" refer to the historicity of the Scriptures but Jesus and Mary are indeed gloriously alive in the present tense !
Dr. referred to some of the sources of Munifentissimus Deus and Ineffabilis Deus as seen in the two dogmatic papal texts without inflaming the dissenters by saying they are De Fide. Salvation is not possible without theological faith in these revealed dogmas.
Protestants are known for their natural or emotional faith in scripture. But such defective faith without the true sacrament of baptism which imparts true faith, there is no salvation.
Protestant "faith" however devotional and full of of conviction is nonetheless only a stepping stone to conversion to the one true religion.
Using Our Lady's own words in the Magnificat was an apologetic stroke of genius.
Understanding such pure Marian doctrine is a challenge to protestant crass ignorance.
I could go on, but I do pray that the good doctor attends the TLM either in France or in the UK. It is the mass I celebrate exclusively. We are so bold as to call it the True Mass.
Thank you Gavin. Lovely, uplifting. But shorter expositions are easier to take in.
How right you are. And we have both long and short here ! To cater for all tastes. :)
@@DrGAshenden If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary?
The religious are ludicrous, avoided like the old women with too many cats.
Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy.
Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital.
Who sends their children to prophet trade-school?
If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary?
These are the religious, the wolves in sheep's clothing.
Even Jesus says faith is worthless or you could order mountains to move about.
The scam works with faith & prayers, suggesting we all should travel with one foot in their fantasyland.
Theologians acquire grand titles without certification from a deity, & project certainty using fantasyland vocabulary in an academic setting to compensate for lack of reason.
We really should address the social acceptance of large numbers of people speaking a fantasyland vocabulary & openly indulging in the deceit of religious belief as a tool of fascism.
It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killings.
The Christians slapped their books on the Old Testament, & the Mormons glued theirs on to them both, thus proving Christians lack quality-control.
As if God does not have a perfect record of doing nothing, as if we had no reason for the saying: God helps those helping themselves.
Thank you for you wonderful teaching on Our Blessed Mother. St Maxmilian Kolbe, a Martyr in Auschwitz said "you can never Love Our Blessed Mother too much as you will never love her more than Jesus does"
As a Catholic, true devotion to Mary is a spiritual grace given by God and is like all grace, not easy to explain but has to be experienced. The Angel Gabriel said to Mary "Hail full of Grace the Lord is with you". Mary was chosen by God and the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and Jesus was conceived in Marys womb.
Mary was the tabernacle of Jesus for Nine Months, she is the "Theokotas" the God bearer and the mother of the Mystical Body the Church. She remains our spiritual mother to the end of time, in this world and eternity outside of time and Space.
The miracle of
Knock in Ireland in 1879 is a small example of lifting of the veil and the role of Our Blessed Mother, who appeared with St Joseph and St John the Evangalist adoring the "Lamb of God"
Our Blessed Mother is Queen of the heaven and Earth.
My prayer is
"in the presence of our Blessed Mother Mary, the Angels, Martyrs and Saint we give all praise, glory and thanksgiving to the Holy Trinity in heaven and Earth" . Ave Maria 🙏
Is it reasonable to believe that protestants fail to comprehend the concept of original sin, and therefore the veil is closed when it comes to Our Blessed Mother ?
Holy mary mother of God
One idea is that Jesus does everything we do, in this case we see him being obedient to the request of another person. At the start of his ministry we see him obedient to the Holy Spirit (going into the desert). And at the end of his ministry we see him obedient to the Father (going to the Cross).
Very good discussion
All i want to do is know and follow what is true...
Mary's modern apparitions begin with her apparition at Guadalupe in 1531.
Very helpful to a life long Anglican who has recently embraced Catholicism, only to find the local expression of Catholicism is more Anglican than Catholic. Do you have any advice as to how to thrive in our Lords service, in times like these? I am in Australia. Thank you for your work.
For something different you could look for the closest Latin Mass, Ordinariate or even Eastern Catholic Church.
Don’t go anywhere that isn’t in full communion though. 🙂
Question: A very helpful analysis Dr Ashenden. Thank you. You refer to Elijah as 'dead' in this presentation (timed at 28:25 into your presentation) but was he not taken up 'alive' in a chariot of fire? Is this aspect not important when understanding the Holy Transfiguration of Christ and the relationship between The Law and The Prophets? I should be very interested to know. Thank you.
In Revelation 12 who else would it be other than Mary? It is the Church in the background. That pericope is a brief summary of the whole story of salvation history.
Dr you may consider augmenting the volume perhaps ?
One of the problems I have is that the assumption of Mary was not taught before the end of the fourth century, and yet the Roman Church requires this as a compulsory doctrine, a doctrine not found in the New Testament.
I like another convert friend of mine I prefer her term for the Reformation…..i.e. the DEFORMATION. Ave Maria, Mater Dei.+
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If we didn't know of Mary, we would have to look for someone with whom Jesus shared his ministry all but as an equal.
Like Solomon's mother, and David's. Whatever she asked was granted.
if Our Lady only lived for 10/12 years after our lord then she maybe wasnt alive in ad60 (33+10/12 = AD43/45), but I have know knowledge of this, just a thought. Our lady is with us all, I have a feeling she spoke out loud directly to my wife last week in church, My wifes name is Mary and she turned around to me said "who shouted my name then". There was no a sound I could hear !
Interesting arguments but, at the end of the day, the apostles were silent on the issue of Mary. You cannot make of Mary more than the apostles did. The protestants are right.
JOHN 19:26 When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son 27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. 28 Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst. 29 Now there was a vessel set there full of vinegar. And they, putting a sponge full of vinegar about hyssop, put it to his mouth. 30 Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost.
Great talk!!!! Still need to get a decent mic.
That chapter break in Revelation really confuses people, doesn’t it? 😁
Shakespeare has the king bidding Lancaster and York to pluck a rose each in token of amity but each chooses a different coloured rose - the rubicon is then crossed.
Does anybody else find the volume too low please?
The ark of the covenant is a prefigurement of Mary. Perhaps it had to be lost to get ready for Mary.
It seems Jesus manages to give several responses - "What now?" seems to mean I don't understand the situation. "My hour has not yet come" seems to mean "I understand what you are asking, but no." And then "I understand what you mean, and yes." And that's our progression often when God asks us to do something. And it covers the full gamut of possible responses.
It is said that Catholics do not worship Mary. Catholics pray to Mary, petition her, trust her to care and provide for them and guide them. I do not believe all Catholics do but it certainly is not
outside Catholic belief to relate to Mary in the aforementioned ways. And it is said that Mary sometimes replies and makes requests of those who pray to her. Such prayer and trust and expectation should be made to and placed in God and Him alone. Scripture does not allow any communication with those who have passed from this life and yet in the Hail Mary she is asked to pray for "us siinners now and at the hour of our death" Then of course there is prayer to the saints for various kinds of help in various situations and answers sometimes happen as answers happen to those involved in new age beliefs.
There is no warrant in scripture which allows us to speak to those who have passed from this life. We may indeed ask fellow believers this side of eternity to pray for us but not those who have already passed into eternity.
The terrible thing about Marion belief is that it gives to Mary and saints a status and place in the life of a believer that belongs to Christ Jesus and Him alone.
Our Lord was laid in a tomb never before used; the gospel clearly notes this fact.
Is there a connection here back to the Virgin Mary?
How do we know what is true?
I dont think carthage had a council in 460 AD. It might be the 397 AD . Oh, well.
AUDIO TRACK ALWAYS TOO LOW. GOD HELP YOU+++
Mary is a normal woman thank Heaven
yes a sinner who has a grave, like any Christ follower.
Dr G Ashen-don '' I am in love' with the dead ....with Mary!'' (Little things count, it indicates a lot)
What about Adam, Eve, Moses?. To state, I am 'fallen in love' with to any person in Scripture - is ridiculous, naive and disrespectful - and shows Dr G that clearly you don't have a clue.
romantic love* that a man has for only for his wife, and vise versa, is not for any other person. Do you ''fall in love'' with your daughter? Your mother? A married woman? Of course not - it would be weird
What next, '''Jesus is my boy friend?'' It's found as a heresy on social media.
Delusional - the church gets worse. You are supposed to set an example, to love wisdom, discernment and integrity - instead of this clap trap
Also Jesus shares everything, in particular he shares his role with Mary, his partner in the salvation of the world, though he is the unique savior in that Mary is also saved from sin but at her conception.
@@trilbywilby7826 Very true, Jesus is the only mediator, a divine person. Mary is just a human being.
@@trilbywilby7826 I agree completely. I suspect in Isaiah the Lord is speaking of the gods of the other nations. And there is no doubt that Jesus is the one mediator, in the sense that all goes to and through him.
PS at least that's the Catholic view.
Perhaps it means "Now what?"
The Apocalypse had to be written before the death of the last Apostle.
Perhaps Jesus brought his disciples intentionally to the wedding, perhaps unannounced, so they would run out of wine, if they didn't know they all were coming.
Tota pulchra es, O Maria!
So, why does the scripture say that there is ONE mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus? Does that not rule out the holy mother as a mediator?
Of course it does, this Dr G Ashenden, like all in the RCC is a false teacher
It is when Mary -a human- replaces Jesus Christ (God in human form) as the key person of veneration that the problem arises.
@vonrecht1236 We honour Mary we do not worship her
Worship is: sacrifice. Not! Singing and praying; we pray and sing to Mary; We don’t sacrifice.
Veneration of Mary can even be seen in the catacombs way before the legalization of Christianity, hence the reason why Christians were forced to worship in secret in the catacombs.
up His sleeve
a Second Eve
At one point, you got your terms mixed up. You spoke of Mary as the 'bearer' of God, Theotokos. The 'bearer of God' is Theopheros... Theotokos is the 'mother' of God.
I know this comment is a bit off topic but as I'm struggling with an historical Eve, I was wondering what the reference to "the new Eve" meant? Cardinal Pell said that Genesis was to be seen as an allegory, that the Catholic Church accepted evolution to be the explanation for the origins of life. However, particularly in the US, there are repeated references to Adam and Eve being, our first parents, pivotal figures in human development, real people. So who's right, those American catholics or Cardinal Pell?
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church #390 "The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original sin of our first parents." Cardinal Pell knows the truth now.
The Blessed Virgin Mary is referred to as the new Eve and Christ as the new Adam. Cardinal Pell, God rest his soul, was wrong about evolution and this matter. For an interesting discussion about the total lack of evidence for the theory of evolution watch the you tube video Mathematical Challenges to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution.
@kevinarmstrong6043 about evolution, you can breed from a wolf down to a pug dog, but! You can't breed from a pug dog back to a wolf, the reason behind this is the wolf has all the DNA of the pug dog plus plenty more. Man didn't come from monkeys or fish because they would have to have all the same DNA as man plus more and no other creature has all human DNA plus more. Besides why is it so hard to believe that human's come from humans. Also Jesus died on the cross to mend the bridge that was broken through original sin. If you look at the Bible there are patterns throughout, Abraham was not going to say no to God, he was prepared to sacrifice his son at God's request & at the last moment God stopped him and he was to offer a ram (a male sheep) that was caught by its horns in a bush that was nearby. In the Bible God offered his only begotten son (lamb of God) to be sacrificed for our salvation.
Just to be clear. You are saying the evolution is not relevant to human origins? Furthermore, you are saying that Cardinal Pell was wrong to suggest that evolution was the source of the origin? You are happy to take the view that the Genesis account does indeed use figurative language, but it also refers to an actual event? This is what really stumps me. People go to such lengths using word gymnastics and fail to see the contradictions in what they are proposing. The Catechism wants it both ways...it references evolution close to the same passage you have quoted but then does a double take! Thanks for taking the trouble to answer.It's something I've been wrestling with for a long time but most people just ignore what I ask, I'm wondering why?@@thomasmore4468
@@kevinarmstrong6043 For the avoidance of doubt, I quoted what the CCC says about our first parents. Cardinal Pell was wrong because there is no evidence for evolution of the species or that we (all life including human life) developed out of a little warm pond as Darwin posits. Evolution is a theory NOT proven fact. Darwin himself had doubts since the fossil record did not show what his theory suggested that it should have shown. I believe the Biblical account is factual and that it accounts for the sinful nature of man. I do not know how God walked in the garden with Adam and Eve as the Son of God had not yet taken on flesh and been made man, Man-God, Jesus. So I assume 'walked with them' is a figurative way to describe the actuality of God being actually present with them in the garden. I think the actual devil tempted Eve to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge. Books on this subject that I would recommend: The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions by David Berlinski. Darwin's Doubt by Stephen C. Meyer argues that scientists have found no way to account for the Cambrian explosion. Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design. There are plenty of books and videos out there on this matter. I personally do not use word gymnastics as you call them. Read the Church Fathers for insight into Genesis.
Thank you, Dr. Ashenden. Perhaps you will like this that I share: ANNUNCIATION by DOMENICO VENEZIANO
The maiden was at her prayers,
silent, removed
from garden path and barrèd door.
No whisper of wing, no footprint on path,
Gabriel kneels before her,
wondrous greeting giving;
bringing the Word to her open heart.
In time she will bring forth
the Timeless One, incarnate.
But now in a quiet corner
she bows to her God within,
and the angel kneels to both.
E.M.R.H. 27 Dec. 2012
Note on ANNUNCIATION ...
At the Incarnation,
Heaven and earth in little space
became one, as the English early Tudor hymn (ca 1420) puts it. Yet, the Incarnation began nine months earlier, in a happening rich with significance for a Christian life.
Probably the truest, therefore the best, representation of that moment is the painting of the Annunciation by an artist of no great fame, Domenico Veneziano.
In a bare room, without a prie-dieu or a prayer-book, the angel and Mary face each other. That she is hortus conclusus, an enclosed garden, is implied by the wall around the garden, whose door is shut. The path from it has no footprint. There is no dove descending in a ray of light. The angel genuflects even as his hand betokens a request. With crossed arms, Mary bows as though sheltering the One who is within. She has already spoken her “Behold the handmaid of the Lord”; already the Lord who sought her acquiescence has found in her his “little space”.
It is a moment of heart-stopping mystical wonder, beauty, and love. Love, humility and obedience, without which there is no Christian life. In Judaeo-Christian tradition, the brightest angel, whose mind was nearest to God’s, fell, “like lightning from Heaven,” as Jesus once said, because he would not bend the knee to any of humankind. They were, as he judged, inferior to angels. He would not do it from obedience, nor even for love, and humility was unknown to the one who became The Adversary.
If there were a god, then would there be any demand for scripture interpretations by various podium-jockeys using fantasyland vocabulary?
@Stupidityindex You are an atheist, Atheist's aren't deep thinkers, they wander aimlessly through life with no real thoughts or sense of purpose and are living a meaningless selfish life. Maybe you think that by putting Christian's down you might get some sort of argument; in hope that someone might validate your existence.
Dear Gavin, I think you are unfair to the reformers who were spiritual in their writings.
'FALL IN LOVE WITH HER' -- Please Sir, use some common sense. There are several types of love in the Greek, and romantic love* that a man has for only his wife, and vise versa, is not for any other person. Do you ''fall in love'' with your daughter? Your mother? Of course not - it would be weird
'' I am in love' with the dead ....Mary, Adam, Eve? - to any person is Scripture is ridiculous, naive and disrespectful. - and shows clearly you don't have a clue.
What next, '''Jesus is my boy friend?'' It's found as a heresy on social media. Delusional - the church gets worse. You are supposed to set an example, to love wisdom, discernment and integrity
*Love types. others are brotherly/filial love, and the self denying love holy God has
I enjoy your talks and perspectives, Gavin, but any doctrine which takes away from the centrality of Christ in the gospel is severely suspect. Over-the-top reverence (worship?) for Mary is one such doctrine. She was born in sin and was a sinner, like everyone else. She needed a Saviour, like everyone else. Christ is the only Saviour, the only way to God. John said: He must increase and I must decrease. The pre-eminence and promotion of Mary in Catholic theology is, I would suggest, a complete contradiction of John's words, and a distraction from the person and work of the Lord Jesus for lost mankind.
Dear Paul, you can’t have listened to the talk?
But if you have listened to it, could you address the theology rather than just representing Protestant sloganising? Bless you, and thank you.
Catholics do NOT worship the Blessed Virgin Mary. We worship the Lord Jesus Christ.
Biblical 'slogans' are the best theology. Theological systems are two a penny. Christ must increase. Everyone else - Mary, Paul, John... must decrease. Christ is the one and only mediator and Saviour. The Word of God alone. Grace alone. Faith alone. Christ alone. God's glory alone. A focus on Mary, even blessed as she was, is an unnecessary distraction from the pure gospel. @@DrGAshenden
@@paulbriggsy Here is a slogan for you: No Mary, no Jesus, know Mary, know Jesus.
@@paulbriggsyFaith without works
You are not saved by faith alone, but! by works of love.
John 8:51
51 In all truth I tell you, whoever keeps my word will never see death.
How do you keep Jesus' word? By doing what he asks of us!
James 2:14-26
14) How does it help, my brothers, when someone who has never done a single good act claims to have faith? Will that faith bring salvation?
15) If one of the brothers or one of the sisters is in need of clothes and has not enough food to live on,
16) and one of you says to them, 'I wish you well; keep yourself warm and eat plenty,' without giving them these bare necessities of life, then what good is that?
17) In the same way faith, if good deeds do not go with it, is quite dead.
18) But someone may say: So you have faith and I have good deeds? Show me this faith of yours without deeds, then! It is by my deeds that I will show you my faith.
19) You believe in the one God -- that is creditable enough, but even the demons have the same belief, and they tremble with fear.
20) Fool! Would you not like to know that faith without deeds is useless?
21) Was not Abraham our father justified by his deed, because he offered his son Isaac on the altar?
22) So you can see that his faith was working together with his deeds; his faith became perfect by what he did.
23) In this way the scripture was fulfilled: Abraham put his faith in God, and this was considered as making him upright; and he received the name 'friend of God'.
24) You see now that it is by deeds, and not only by believing, that someone is justified.
25) There is another example of the same kind: Rahab the prostitute, was she not justified by her deeds because she welcomed the messengers and showed them a different way to leave?
26 As a body without a spirit is dead, so is faith without deeds.
Jeremiah 17: 10
I, Yahweh, search the heart, test the motives, to give each person what his conduct and actions deserve.
Matthew 25:42-46 (faith without works)
42) For I was hungry and you never gave me food, I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink,
43) I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, lacking clothes and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me."
44) Then it will be their turn to ask, "Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty, a stranger or lacking clothes, sick or in prison, and did not come to your help?"
45) Then he will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to do it to me."
46) And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the upright to eternal life.'
Romans 2:7 (Proof of the need for works)
7 For those who aimed for glory and honour and immortality by persevering in doing good, there will be eternal life.
1 Peter 2:12
Always behave honourable among pagans, so that they can see your good works for themselves.
Matthew 7:21
21 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.
Matthew 25: 34-40
34 Then the King will say to those on his right hand, "Come, you whom my Father has blessed, take as your heritage the kingdom prepared for you since the foundation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you made me welcome,
36 lacking clothes and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me."
37 Then the upright will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome, lacking clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we find you sick or in prison and go to see you?"
40 And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me."
Revelation 14:13
Then I heard a voice from heaven say to me, 'Write down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord! Blessed indeed, the Spirit says; now they can rest for ever after their work, since their good deeds go with them.'
(The deeds are what people carry with them to God's judgement).
You can lose your salvation by: being unrepentant & harbouring unforgiveness.
An unrepentant person knows that he or she has sinned and refuses to ask God for forgiveness or turn away from the sin. The unrepentant show no remorse for their wrongdoing and don’t feel the need to change. Unrepentance is the sin of willfully remaining sinful.
Matthew 6: 14 if you forgive others their failings, your heavenly Father will forgive you yours;
Matthew 6:15 but if you do not forgive others, your Father will not forgive your failings either.
Matthew 7:21 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.
Matthew 7:24 Therefore, everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on rock.
Mark 11:25 And when you stand in prayer, forgive whatever you have against anybody, so your Father in heaven may forgive your failings too.'
Exodus 32:33, Yahweh said to Moses, 'Those who have sinned against me are the ones I shall blot out of my book.
Hebrews 12: 14 Seek peace with all people, and the holiness without which no one can ever see the Lord.
John 15: 6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a branch -- and withers; these branches are collected and thrown on the fire and are burnt.
1 John 4:20 Anyone who says 'I love God' and hates his brother, is a liar, since whoever does not love the brother whom he can see cannot love God whom he has not seen.
You can lose your salvation
2 Peter 2:20-22
20) and anyone who has escaped the pollution of the world by coming to know our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and who then allows himself to be entangled and mastered by it a second time, ends up by being worse than he was before.
21) It would have been better for them never to have learnt the way of uprightness, than to learn it and then desert the holy commandment that was entrusted to them.
22) What they have done is exactly as the proverb rightly says: The dog goes back to its vomit and: As soon as the sow has been washed, it wallows in the mud.
Ezekiel 18:24-26
24) 'But if the upright abandons uprightness and does wrong by copying all the loathsome practices of the wicked, is he to live? All his upright actions will be forgotten from then on; for the infidelity of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, he will most certainly die.
25) 'Now, you say, "What the Lord does is unjust." Now listen, House of Israel: is what I do unjust? Is it not what you do that is unjust?
26) When the upright abandons uprightness and does wrong and dies, he dies because of the wrong which he himself has done.
Hebrews 10: 26
26) If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them.
Romans 11: 22
22) Remember God's severity as well as his goodness: his severity to those who fell, and his goodness to you as long as you persevere in it; if not, you too will be cut off.
Bad doctrine always leaves more questions than answers: Heb 5:7-9 "our Lord learn obedience through suffering" I think it is important Jesus lived a full human life which means imperfect human parents like all of us. Being fully human does not only mean a biological body but real life on earth. This super Mary doctrine flies in the fact of almost the whole of the book of Hebrew. Then there is the issue of free will Mary had to be able to choose or to have faith like every other human being the risk had to be real. and if Mary can get "spiritual cheat codes" why not other people why all this suffering when we get these cheat codes.
There are no “spiritual cheat codes”. Free of original sin, temptation still abounds. Personal choice, free will, is tough. Out Lord bore no sin, yet He too was tempted in the wilderness.
@@tumbletoes909 why is she free of original sin and where is it said she is free of original sin
I have no problem with Mary she is a good faith-filll woman prime example of a goodly woman. However, it is important and critical that Mary remains "ordinary" . She is a sinner like every other human being on this planet and needs her sins atoned for by the sacrifice and grace of her Lord and my Lord Jesus the Christ and needed the infilling of the Holy Spirit The Prophet Isaiah says " A virgin will bring forth a child" the word was used of Moses sister watching over baby Moses. of Rebecca watering the Camels, always in the context of ordinary work and diligence symbolic of feminine care and protection. if Mary had said no or lacked faith God would have looked for someone else. This is not a problem. I think that is why she was not mentioned much in the bible because idiots with misplaced zeal would run around worshipping her. Stop this doctrine of "Super Mary". That second-eve stuff is a bit of a stretch it is just nostalgic garbage, The prophetic word was to "original" Eve her offspring's heel will bruce the head of the snake. I was purposely aggressive because bad doctrine breeds horrible consequences, and this mary rubbish may have been partially responsible for the rise of the Islamic heresy. Mary does not get "cheat codes" just because she birthed Jesus our Lord and God
I really hope you get some enlightenment regarding this especially as if someone dissed your mother in the way you just spoke about Our Lady I think you might smite them.
I am afraid to tell you that what you have written is frank heresy. The Second Eve was conceived without original sin and remained sinless until the end of her earthy life at which point she was take up body and soul into eternal glory where she sits at the right hand of her divine son. Anyone who disputes this truth makes a shipwreck of their faith and endangers their eternal salvation.
@midnightwatchman1 Mary was saved from sin:
Mary was saved from sin by receiving the grace to be preserved from it. But she was still saved.
Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed.
St. Luke uses the perfect passive participle, kekaritomene, as his “name” for Mary. This word literally means “she who has been graced” in a completed sense. This verbal adjective, “graced,” is not just describing a simple past action. Greek has another tense for that. The perfect tense is used to indicate that an action has been completed in the past resulting in a present state of being. “Full of grace” is Mary’s name.
So what does it tell us about Mary? Well, the average Christian is not completed in grace and in a permanent sense (see Phil. 3:8-12). But according to the angel, Mary is. You and I sin, not because of grace, but because of a lack of grace, or a lack of our cooperation with grace, in our lives. This greeting of the angel is one clue into the unique character and calling of the Mother of God. Only Mary is given the name “full of grace” and in the perfect tense, indicating that this permanent state of Mary was completed.
Jesus saved Mother Mary in a unique way, by preventing at the moment of her conception, free from being stained with original sin. Now, we do understand that the stain of original sin is inherited, passed on to every human being.
By having Mary free of the stain of original sin, IT COULD NOT BE PASSED ON TO JESUS. Hence, Jesus did not inherit original sin, and was free of the stain of original sin.
Not only that, God does not dwell in sin, so Jesus dwelled in the sinless, pure body of Blessed Mary.
Immaculate means: free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean: free from moral blemish or impurity; pure.
Eve was created sinless, pure, full of grace and good. Yet she said NO to God and disobeyed as did Adam. Thereby bringing death into the world and the inherited stain of original sin Mary too, was created "immaculate", full of grace, and pure and sinless. She had the choice to say NO, but with complete faith said YES to God. Her yes brought LIFE into the world (through Jesus and He conquered death).
Mary, by her "yes" to God, through the Angel Gabriel, participated in the Redemptive act of Jesus. She was free to say "no" to God, just as Eve (and Adam) freely chose to say "no" to God. That is why she is also called Co-redemptrix.
It is not saying Mary redeemed us (that alone is what Christ did by His dying for our redemption). "Co" means together, joining, such as a "co-worker ", "co-star", for example: a movie star is the main character of a scene, movie, and the supporting actors, are "co-stars", without whom there would be no movie!
That is Mary's title, and rightly so, for by her "yes", fully trusting and believing in God, she participated in the Redemption of mankind. Jesus is the STAR, while she is the Co-star.
Yes, Christ did give Mary as our Mother.
St. John the Apostle became Mary's son, who cared for and protected her. When Jesus gave Mary as John's mother, He used "woman", thereby having double meaning. Not only did Jesus give Mary as mother to John, but this also meant as "woman", she is Mother of the Church. For we Christians are the "adopted" brothers and sisters of Jesus, (as Scripture tells us) and that makes Mary our beloved Mother.
@midnightwatchman1 Mary Queen of heaven
The mere fact that worshipping someone called “queen of heaven” is condemned in Jeremiah 7 eliminates the possibility of Mary being the true Queen of Heaven and Earth. This simply does not follow. The existence of a counterfeit queen does not mean there can’t be an authentic one. This reasoning followed to its logical end would lead to abandoning the entire Christian Faith! We could not have a Bible because Hinduism, Islam, and many other false religions have “holy books.” We could not call Jesus Son of God because Zeus and Hera had Apollo, Isis and Osiris had Horus, etc. The fact that there was a false “queen of heaven” worshipped in ancient Mesopotamia does not negate the reality of the true queen who is honored as such in the kingdom of God.
The Catholic Church does not teach-and has never taught-that we should adore Mary.
@midnightwatchman1 Explanation of Why Mary is Queen
In the Old Testament it is shown that the Jewish people at the time, their Kings had wives but that the wives were not the Queen. In ancient Jewish law, the King's mother was the Queen. It was the Queen's responsibility to hear the needs and petitions of the common people and present those needs to her son the King. An example of this is Queen Ester. This is Mary's role in heaven, a role given to her by God. She is the mother of our King and she is the Queen who petitions for us. She is not worshipped because she has no power of her own. She is a human woman. But everything we petition her for, our prayers, our tears, our joys, she presents those things to her divine son for us. Yes, we can petition Jesus directly, but Jesus does listen to his mother most generously, as this is the role he gave her and this is the gift that he gave us. Before he physically left us, he gave us his presence in the Eucharist, a mother to petition for us, and comfort and guidance in the Holy Spirit."
...beautiful
Thank you so very much.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.