Great video...I'm a financial guy that like to fix my own stuff. Had a Baldwin lock stop working because of the spring and when I took it apart, it fell apart, no clue how to put back together...this video was just what I needed to put the puzzle back together...Thank you for taking the time to post this video.
Thanks for this - had to take one of these apart and replace the handle return spring. Glad I watched this first and put those screws in to hold down all the springy bits!
I wondered why that screw was hidden under the label. And I thought, wow, I wonder if this thing's gonna blow up when it take off this cover... It's a real bad feeling to see all those springs and things strewn across the bench. But Google led me to you, and 20 minutes of "oh wow" video later I was able to put it all back together. Can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos, and the time you take to put them together. Thank you thank you thank you... (The lock works perfectly now. in service for 31 years, hoping for another decade or two.)
A tip for disassembling something is your digital camera or phone camera can be of big help as you dismantle the lock take a few photos showing you where everything goes so when you go to put it back together you have a reference. I have done this a number of times!
The deadbolt stuck and I couldn't open the door. I finally managed to get it open, but decided to open it to give it some lubrication. I opened the cover and as soon as I did I had parts everywhere. I got them all back to where they belonged, but I could not for the life of me figure out where that spring went. Thanks so much for the excellent tutorial!!
Nice video, I am working as a lock assembler for a well known company Securitech/Assaabloy located in NYC in is very similar what I do, thanks for sharing.
very helpful, where can I get the 2 springs that install on the thumb turn pivot in the lower right corner. One is light gauge and straight, the other is heavy gauge and returns the knob to center from left or right when opening the door from the inside
This is inspiring, just found that my mortise spring is broken, do you know where to get a new one? And what is the correct name of this component? (The straight one that going off a few times in your video)
Thank you for the video!!! I would have been the one coming in and with pieces asking you to put it back together. So my lock is very old and I would like to clean up all the metal scrapings etc. what kind of oil could I use for the peices that are dry and little rusty?
Prior to opening the plate, you used two screws to fasten the plate to the wood block. The screws are different diameters - for most standard mortise locks, what size screws do you need to fasten.
Jared Levine thumbturn was a number 8 head and the hub is a 1/4 with the head spun on a bench grinder for a sec. as long as whatever you use passes the hole in the case but holds the parts down will work :)
I used a piece of wood 4" x 6" x 3/4" thick, slightly larger than the lock body. Then you just have to find screws with heads the right sizes and not too long.
I don't understand why flipping the top bolt would change the hand. Wouldn't the hub still turn in the same direction? And it appears that, when flipped, the bolt would go over the notch in the hub, and thus not prevent the handle from turning.
I was hoping I didn't have to watch this video to put together the Baldwin lock puzzle..but I couldn't figure out where the silver goose neck thingy went. A well as one small brass piece that looks like the letter "i" Other than that i'm almost there!
are these instructions the same for a 6321? I have a latch that sticks on the last 1/4 inch when you push it in. It will spring back if you turn the door knob. This Baldwin lifetime warranty is a bunch of crap. They will only replace things inside like a spring, or ball bearing (which cost pennies). They wont send you a mortise like they lead you to believe so you have to spend money to have a locksmith come out and the cost to repair is $250 or so. You can get a new Mortise for that! I am wondering if you have any suggestions? My guess its that big black spring behind the latch bolt that is the issue. Finally, do you feel this is a $200 to $250 repair job? Thank you for taking the time to make videos like this
Hey! It actually sounds like the hub (which is the brighter brass part that the knob shaft goes through) they have a tendency to wear down where it hits and pushes against the darker brass spring loaded arm shown around the 12:15sec mark in this video. When it gouges out from that arm it does what you are describing. As far as cost, unless you can find a local locksmith shop who has been in business for a long time who worked on these a lot and drop it off it probably would cost quite a bit. There really isn't a "easy get" part solution for these, we have many torn down for repair/replacement parts and might have a hub I'd have to check. I might note, be VERY wary of any unknown locksmith companies. Many of these places that advertise heavily are typically call center/referral type places and the people they sign into their programs usually have very little skill and are also known to price trick/gouge and leave you with a mess. If I can help further let me know J
I do not have any experience with it or actually any like it. I'am a locksmith and learn something new everydayJeff Warthan Locksmith. LLC, in Sparta,Wi
Jason it's Matthew whatever more puzzles you have for me go ahead and throw them in if they'll fit cuz yeah I love puzzles especially lock puzzles and yeah I kind of do know how to work on them I trying to work on 1 2 weeks ago so whatever more cool stuff you find just throw in my box man I don't care I'll take whatever
@@1982cleveland there should be a sticker on the body of your lock that tells you which model it is like 6320LH or RH which would be the hand of your door. If your cylinder screw is stripped (which is common for people to over tighten those) that actual part may be able to be replaced (we actually keep spares on hand) but there are different backsets (distance from edge of door to center of handle/cylinder) that require different mechanisms. Is yours not unscrewing enough for you to unscrew the mortise cylinder?
@@selock No labels. And it's actually "Sargent & Co." I'm able to unscrew and screw in the cylinder, and everything works until the deadbolt is engaged. After the deadbolt is extended, for whatever reason, it can't be retracted by the key. I can make a video?
@@1982cleveland ohhhh well that changes things. I can take a look, you can do an unlisted video if you’d like and email me the link or reply here whichever you prefer
I am a Baldwin fan boy/locksmith and work on these regularly. Great video, everything spot on
Do you know what part number the latch spring is
Great video...I'm a financial guy that like to fix my own stuff. Had a Baldwin lock stop working because of the spring and when I took it apart, it fell apart, no clue how to put back together...this video was just what I needed to put the puzzle back together...Thank you for taking the time to post this video.
This was a huge help, wasn't even the same problem, just needed some tips on disassembly and all that. Can't thank you enough.
I just fixed my old lock and I sent this to the locksmith that I hired (and subsequently fired). Thanks for taking the time to make this!!
Thanks for this - had to take one of these apart and replace the handle return spring. Glad I watched this first and put those screws in to hold down all the springy bits!
no boing!
I wondered why that screw was hidden under the label. And I thought, wow, I wonder if this thing's gonna blow up when it take off this cover... It's a real bad feeling to see all those springs and things strewn across the bench. But Google led me to you, and 20 minutes of "oh wow" video later I was able to put it all back together. Can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos, and the time you take to put them together. Thank you thank you thank you... (The lock works perfectly now. in service for 31 years, hoping for another decade or two.)
Is this my man Ken down south of me??
Great video. It helped me understand and create that jig to hold the lock in place when I installed the upgrade kit. Thank you!
Same here!
Thank's you just help me find where those spins goes!🤩
A tip for disassembling something is your digital camera or phone camera can be of big help as you dismantle the lock take a few photos showing you where everything goes so when you go to put it back together you have a reference. I have done this a number of times!
The deadbolt stuck and I couldn't open the door. I finally managed to get it open, but decided to open it to give it some lubrication. I opened the cover and as soon as I did I had parts everywhere. I got them all back to where they belonged, but I could not for the life of me figure out where that spring went. Thanks so much for the excellent tutorial!!
Do you know where can I purchase replacement flat springs, like the one used on the upper part of the mortise lock? I need about 100. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video!
That was fun. Who should be next?
Nice video, I am working as a lock assembler for a well known company Securitech/Assaabloy located in NYC in is very similar what I do, thanks for sharing.
very helpful, where can I get the 2 springs that install on the thumb turn pivot in the lower right corner. One is light gauge and straight, the other is heavy gauge and returns the knob to center from left or right when opening the door from the inside
This is inspiring, just found that my mortise spring is broken, do you know where to get a new one? And what is the correct name of this component? (The straight one that going off a few times in your video)
Awesome, I thing I broke the cylinder trainer screw or fork thingy.
Thank you for the video!!! I would have been the one coming in and with pieces asking you to put it back together. So my lock is very old and I would like to clean up all the metal scrapings etc. what kind of oil could I use for the peices that are dry and little rusty?
Thats an awful lot of pieces to put back together correctly :D
Would it be possible to remove the buttons? I hate getting locked out hahaha
Prior to opening the plate, you used two screws to fasten the plate to the wood block. The screws are different diameters - for most standard mortise locks, what size screws do you need to fasten.
Jared Levine thumbturn was a number 8 head and the hub is a 1/4 with the head spun on a bench grinder for a sec. as long as whatever you use passes the hole in the case but holds the parts down will work :)
Would you happen to recall what size that block of wood is? Thanks for making this video. It is extremely helpful.
doesn’t matter the size, any scrap piece is fine as long as its at “least” 2 3/4 wide and over about 7-8” tall :)
I used a piece of wood 4" x 6" x 3/4" thick, slightly larger than the lock body. Then you just have to find screws with heads the right sizes and not too long.
I don't understand why flipping the top bolt would change the hand. Wouldn't the hub still turn in the same direction? And it appears that, when flipped, the bolt would go over the notch in the hub, and thus not prevent the handle from turning.
I was hoping I didn't have to watch this video to put together the Baldwin lock puzzle..but I couldn't figure out where the silver goose neck thingy went. A well as one small brass piece that looks like the letter "i" Other than that i'm almost there!
How much is this "kit"? I need one.
Thanks I appreciate it very much...
I need a 6321 003 LLS any ideas?
are these instructions the same for a 6321? I have a latch that sticks on the last 1/4 inch when you push it in. It will spring back if you turn the door knob. This Baldwin lifetime warranty is a bunch of crap. They will only replace things inside like a spring, or ball bearing (which cost pennies). They wont send you a mortise like they lead you to believe so you have to spend money to have a locksmith come out and the cost to repair is $250 or so. You can get a new Mortise for that! I am wondering if you have any suggestions? My guess its that big black spring behind the latch bolt that is the issue. Finally, do you feel this is a $200 to $250 repair job? Thank you for taking the time to make videos like this
Hey! It actually sounds like the hub (which is the brighter brass part that the knob shaft goes through) they have a tendency to wear down where it hits and pushes against the darker brass spring loaded arm shown around the 12:15sec mark in this video. When it gouges out from that arm it does what you are describing.
As far as cost, unless you can find a local locksmith shop who has been in business for a long time who worked on these a lot and drop it off it probably would cost quite a bit. There really isn't a "easy get" part solution for these, we have many torn down for repair/replacement parts and might have a hub I'd have to check.
I might note, be VERY wary of any unknown locksmith companies. Many of these places that advertise heavily are typically call center/referral type places and the people they sign into their programs usually have very little skill and are also known to price trick/gouge and leave you with a mess.
If I can help further let me know
J
Ever repair an Omnia mortice cassette? I could always send you mine, it's a disaster!
I do not have any experience with it or actually any like it. I'am a locksmith and learn something new everydayJeff Warthan Locksmith. LLC, in Sparta,Wi
CAN YOU DO FOR ME ONITY MORTISE PLEASE
Jason it's Matthew whatever more puzzles you have for me go ahead and throw them in if they'll fit cuz yeah I love puzzles especially lock puzzles and yeah I kind of do know how to work on them I trying to work on 1 2 weeks ago so whatever more cool stuff you find just throw in my box man I don't care I'll take whatever
Matthew McCurdy it’s been sealed and ready to ship since b4 the video was even uploaded. Enjoy it :)
Ok thanks
I think the screw to my cylinder retainer is stripped... might have to buy a new unit. That's a fun $700 to spend
You can just purchase the lock body for 250-300
@@selock would you happen to know where one can find that?
@@1982cleveland there should be a sticker on the body of your lock that tells you which model it is like 6320LH or RH which would be the hand of your door. If your cylinder screw is stripped (which is common for people to over tighten those) that actual part may be able to be replaced (we actually keep spares on hand) but there are different backsets (distance from edge of door to center of handle/cylinder) that require different mechanisms. Is yours not unscrewing enough for you to unscrew the mortise cylinder?
@@selock No labels. And it's actually "Sargent & Co." I'm able to unscrew and screw in the cylinder, and everything works until the deadbolt is engaged. After the deadbolt is extended, for whatever reason, it can't be retracted by the key. I can make a video?
@@1982cleveland ohhhh well that changes things. I can take a look, you can do an unlisted video if you’d like and email me the link or reply here whichever you prefer
what the frick!
muahahaha