The GENIUS Annie's Laugh & Erwin's Plan Explained - Overanalyzing Attack on Titan & Retrospective

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  • @ignotaskatkus7685
    @ignotaskatkus7685 Год назад +1165

    According to Isayama, the laughter scene is meant to humanize Annie. Beneath all the bulshit, gaslighting and murdering; she is just a simple girl roughened up by her environment. In this scene, she no longer needs to lie, to feel conflicted, or to emotionally shut herself off: she just lets it all out.

    • @notyourdad9548
      @notyourdad9548 Год назад +5

      Links please

    • @lunarluxe9832
      @lunarluxe9832 Год назад +13

      @@Gamfluent neither is eren or mikasa or armin or levi

    • @chonkycat841
      @chonkycat841 Год назад +36

      @@lunarluxe9832 Honestly they all committed hideous crimes (some even much worse crimes than Annie) but Annie is the only one who actually played with people she was killing. That I feel really contradicts her character. There's a scene in the first expedition where Annie grabs a soldier's ODM grappling hook and starts spinning him and walking slowly, before flinging him in the air. It was most likely made this way so she would feel frightening and scary, but looking back now it really doesn't make any sense because Annie isn't someone who would do that. It's such an, as the other guy said, inhuman thing to do

    • @q_q123
      @q_q123 Год назад +36

      @@chonkycat841 I feel that was just careless writing Isayama added for the sake of shock value. So many people hate her just for that spinning scene

    • @darthzackariusnickthenamethede
      @darthzackariusnickthenamethede Год назад +17

      @@q_q123 It was way out of character for her, too. Like she's normally just trying to suppress her feelings because she doesn't actually want to hurt anyone. Don't know where that Yoyo scene came from.

  • @witchofengineering
    @witchofengineering Год назад +652

    18:20 One argument I would make for the realism of that scene is that most people they were trying to pass that fake Eren off too didn't actually knew how Eren looked. There was no photography. They had a description or a drawing at best. So passing someone who doesn't really look like Eren as Eren isn't that far-fetched.

    • @harry3461
      @harry3461 Год назад +13

      Beat me to it man 😭😭

    • @abhijithcpreej
      @abhijithcpreej Год назад +10

      Was just about to comment this

    • @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
      @fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Год назад +19

      Exactly!
      Remember that they don't have pictures of them to compare side by side and are not very familiar with either of them. Especially if they where just working from descriptions this sort of thing can easily work in reality.
      We are only this good at telling apart people know rather well. Not having the internet and Smartphones is a big deal here.

    • @cathygrandstaff1957
      @cathygrandstaff1957 Год назад +8

      Yeah all they really needed was someone with short black kinda messy hair with Eren’s build. Also the people attacking are seeing him from a distance and Jean was intentionally trying to keep his face hidden to make it harder for people to realize he wasn’t Eren.

  • @candyfloss462
    @candyfloss462 Год назад +259

    I do wonder if Annie’s laugh and blushing is partly to do with her realising she failed her whole plan due to having feelings for Armin. The irony of something like a crush causing her to fail after the amount of effort she’s put in to shutting out her emotions…

    • @D14MBK
      @D14MBK Год назад +17

      Oh yeah good point!

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 4 месяца назад +15

      A more interesting detail: Annie's laughter and blush are seen only by Armin, and for Eren and Mikasa it is an unnatural pose with hidden eyes.

    • @Daore05
      @Daore05 4 месяца назад +2

      @@user-59559why? Was Armin just located closer or smth?

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 4 месяца назад +18

      ​@@Daore05A romantic representation of the character. Isayama said that Mikasa looks more beautiful in Eren's eyes at particularly emotional moments. This rule applies to all canonical pairs IH and AA.

    • @kalvin187douglas
      @kalvin187douglas 2 месяца назад +1

      Damn she had a crush?

  • @annieleonhart.4937
    @annieleonhart.4937 Год назад +464

    On a serious note. As warriors, the trio (also Pieck & Galliad) never had the luxury of an education or upbringing that did not include the rather imperialistic goals of the Marleyan government. In Annie's and Reiner's case (we don't know because Berthold's parents died early and Pieck's father was sick since she was very young) they were even indoctrinated by their parents. They could never develop as a person, just as weapons. Trying to make friends outside of the warrior unit, looking for meaningful connections, was hard, since they are Eldians. The only authority figure who showed them maybe an ounce of care was Commander Magath (we also only see that later on, so Annie and Berthold likely never experienced that). So, aside from Pieck always trying to be a good friend to everyone, the first time our trio experienced something akin to actual, accepting love from outsiders was on Paradis. From the very people they would have to betray. With so many scars, and an integral part of their personalities dedicated to the mission, how could they not break down. Either as Reiner did, or as Annie eventually does. For her it is even worse because she never hated the "devils of Paradis" anyway.

    • @KO_Star_boi
      @KO_Star_boi Год назад +12

      Hello Annie

    • @RonniV2
      @RonniV2 Год назад +1

      Not only that, but they are indoctrinated to *vehemently hate* the people of Paradis. We see this a lot with Grisha in season 3 and obviously with Gabi and Falco in season 4, but Eldians living in Marley are forced into a perpetual state of self-hatred. They curse the "devils of Paradis" and (some of them) truly believe that there is not a single good person on the island. Of course, there's no guarantee that the Marley trio actually believes this stuff, but they were definitely taught it adnosium. To be immediately cared for and accepted by these "evil devils" must have made them that much more conflicted even before they got to the Scouts.

    • @raiden_from_metal_gear
      @raiden_from_metal_gear Год назад +1

      Hello Annie

    • @juchecatgirl
      @juchecatgirl 9 месяцев назад +2

      Haven't you heard? It's General now!

  • @DRATERI
    @DRATERI Год назад +320

    I love Annie's laugh. At that moment the weight of the world was lifted and Annie didn't have to hide her true self.

    • @abhijithcpreej
      @abhijithcpreej Год назад +13

      This. It's not thirst... It's relief... a release

    • @tx6723
      @tx6723 Год назад +1

      It’s not just that but we the viewer feel the weight of the world she feels

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +462

    Marlow was the only MP that took his job seriously.

    • @yaboiluke8608
      @yaboiluke8608 Год назад +45

      Nile turned out to be a cool dude though

    • @faxenmacher4633
      @faxenmacher4633 Год назад +8

      If Marlow had the founding titan than AOT would have had a happy ending. Or he would have got ate by someone like Erren... Either way Marlboro is a real one.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 Год назад +20

      ​@@yaboiluke8608 Nah nah, Nile was an asshole (except that *one time* he stood up for Historia) who always assumed the worst in a man who was supposedly his friend (Erwin), and thought that disassembling humanity's spear (the Survey Corps) was a good idea, or at least didn't have the guts to protest it.
      He also let notorious serial killer Kenny the Ripper into the ranks of the MPs (and yes, I know that was an irregular unit, but the Garrison and Scout Regiments have no such irregular units because their Commanders know the value of trust and loyalty). Evil flourishes when good men do nothing, and thus by not fighting the censorship of the actions of the First Interior or the decision to make Kenny an MP, he was inherently complicit in those decisions.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 Год назад +6

      @@faxenmacher4633 AoT's best possible choice (the Fifty-Year Plan) is also horribly unethical. Not as unethical as cleansing the planet, or cleansing all Eldians, but still repeating the cycle of royal children eating their parents.

    • @joripien
      @joripien Год назад +3

      Marlow, the MVP MP

  • @SephirothsBIade
    @SephirothsBIade Год назад +142

    18:11 Eldia doesnt have photographs... Of the MPs only a few of them have ever seen Erin. A wig and general bodyshape is more than enough to convince 99% of them at a glance

  • @reachthroughreality
    @reachthroughreality Год назад +89

    Eren laughing at Sasha's death was actually perfect. "She asked if it was time to eat yet." OFC she did. I laughed.

  • @canonogic
    @canonogic Год назад +50

    Isayama needs some kind of global award for his unbelievably brilliant writing on AoT. Dude manages to cover all aspects of what makes a story great, whilst also getting us as the the reader to seriously introspect.

  • @Jayjay_07
    @Jayjay_07 Год назад +70

    I think Annie breaking out in laughter when she reaches her breaking point was a fantastic addition in the anime. As you pointed out we see similar scenes with Eren and I wanted to add that Connie has at least two of those scenes as well. One is in the RtS arc when the Colossal appears and wrecks the town (iirc) where he makes a stupid joke and laughs until Sasha hits him. The other one is related to Annie when they meet her where they get food in S4P2. I have seen a lot of people hating the fact that Connie laughs at her stuffing her face with pie because of the very serious situation they are in, but I think this scene is very in character for Connie and like with Annie and Eren is just a very common human reaction to not being able to deal with depressing chaos anymore. Thank you for coming to my ted talk :D

    • @s0meRand0m129
      @s0meRand0m129 Год назад +2

      bro is coping so hard he make jokes at the girl who murdered most of his comrades

    • @lemmonboy6459
      @lemmonboy6459 Год назад +6

      @@s0meRand0m129
      In her defense, he has also been responsible for some of her comrade’s deaths
      War sucks! :D

  • @KarateKarotte
    @KarateKarotte Год назад +40

    34:05 Might I add that the German lyrics of the songs translate to „is that the destroyer (or the creator of a new world)“ which is literally a reference to eren who will be destroying the whole word with his hatred… and the dichotomy between the Jägerists(Yeagerists) who say he’s the creator of a new world while everyone else’s sees him as the „destroyer“

    • @woolflower8316
      @woolflower8316 Год назад +5

      It was awkward (and funny at the same time) watching with my German bf as he thought all the "German" songs were Japanese because he couldn't understand a single word.
      Same thing when we were watching Better Call Saul, and "In Stiller Nacht" played. The pronunciation is so bad that he couldn't understand it was German.

    • @KarateKarotte
      @KarateKarotte Год назад +2

      @@woolflower8316 yeah, i think there is only one song that has an actual German native „singing“(more like speaking) the lyrics and it’s the extended version of the season 1 op…

    • @ChaosN0110
      @ChaosN0110 Год назад

      @@woolflower8316 It IS very difficult to understand without lyrics

  • @dalkent3417
    @dalkent3417 Год назад +82

    28:38 in my opinion it is the other way around. Eren adopted this exact same method with his father because he knew he would convince his father the same way Mikasa conviced him.
    For me, the girl inspired the man, the man didn't pushed the girl to act like this

    • @mimi101
      @mimi101 Год назад +4

      Lol I didn't even notice Mikasa's glare and Eren's were identical until I watched this video.
      I think the glare Mikasa gives Eren conveys her rage that Eren still considers Annie as a friend even though she just transformed in front of them. I think her feelings for Eren are part of it, but I think knowing it was Annie, who whas their classmate and friend, was the one who killed so many of their comrades infuriates her. And Eren's sympathy for Annie is unconceivable to Mikasa. I think the fact we see the flashback of her as a girl looking at that prey mantis going to town on that butterfly so often in the series is meant to show how she sees the world. Mikasa lived a simple life and that's also ultimately the life she wants. But she knows life is creul and she is strong. She fights to protect what's hers and I think that makes it easy for her to be decisive and again why Eren hesitating out of compassion for Annie at the same time Annie is killing Scouts all around them is unacceptable to her. Mikasa moved on the moment she drew her sword; she was ready to kill Annie to keep as many of her people safe.
      I think Eren took notes from her lol. This episode is the only time I can think of where it is Mikasa and Armin who both leave him behind while they rush into danger, when usually we see the theme of them running after Eren while he runs headfirst into trouble. Great video as always!

  • @iltwrrmbro
    @iltwrrmbro Год назад +35

    27:28 isayama is a fucking genius, man. it feels like he wrote and storyboarded the entire series before he even drew the first panel

    • @mirandpeglel189
      @mirandpeglel189 Год назад +5

      bro wrote it from end to beginning

    • @spookydonutghosthouse
      @spookydonutghosthouse Год назад +1

      Not trying to start anything but given his views Isayama and genius are not words that go together

    • @mirandpeglel189
      @mirandpeglel189 Год назад +3

      @@spookydonutghosthouse What kind of views are they?

    • @spookydonutghosthouse
      @spookydonutghosthouse Год назад

      @@mirandpeglel189 Isayama is a nationalist and a war crime denier
      Dont get me wrong I love AOT but Isayama is a garbage human being

    • @raiden_from_metal_gear
      @raiden_from_metal_gear Год назад +1

      @@spookydonutghosthouse and then they never ever elaborated... blatant bait

  • @IrkenProperty
    @IrkenProperty Год назад +118

    It is truly an insult how you're not at 100k+ subs and gaining millions of views on these... You put in so much work, and you clearly love what you do, as it shines through in every video.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  Год назад +19

      Thank you 😭

    • @decafjava8565
      @decafjava8565 Год назад +1

      Yes yes!!

    • @ToriDiazz
      @ToriDiazz Год назад +1

      i think the same exact thing!!

    • @flonny1340
      @flonny1340 Год назад

      I mean considering he has shown, in brief moments but moments nonetheless, some questionable beliefs/values, 🤔 I'd say it's not actually an insult he hasn't gained over 100k subs. Trust me it is much better to grow at a steady pace then have exponential growth all of a sudden

    • @decafjava8565
      @decafjava8565 Год назад +2

      @@flonny1340 such as?

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +630

    Here's a weird fact: In the Manga, Annie gave Eren a wicked smile. In the Anime, she just laughed.

    • @imLourelin
      @imLourelin Год назад +160

      It's interesting to see these differences since Isayama said that the anime is the "definitive" version of AOT (As far as I know)

    • @kingmac6638
      @kingmac6638 Год назад +21

      She gave a weird smile in both

    • @faxenmacher4633
      @faxenmacher4633 Год назад +99

      I mean, drawing laughter is basically a smile, while animating it is quite different.
      I don't doubt you, I just feel the need to reinforce the natural differences between mediums.

    • @SusieBlup
      @SusieBlup Год назад +16

      I remember him saying he didn't like how he drew it, so it makes sense

    • @katiewhite8729
      @katiewhite8729 Год назад +7

      Ah yes - definitive confirmation of an AOE

  • @xdj2a2
    @xdj2a2 Год назад +11

    15:44 Vinland Sage and Attack on Titan are two sides of the same coin I LOVE IT!!!

  • @grace4535
    @grace4535 Год назад +43

    Attack on Titan is so big on visual symbolism, at least in the Anime. The message of said symbolism is never ONLY on a grand scale. It’s either personal or both, at least most of the time. In my opinion, it really drives home how this show is character focused and character driven, even with the nature and grand scale of the main conflict.
    TLDR: In scenes or moments where the stakes are very personal, the animation team flexes like hell. and it’s so great

    • @grace4535
      @grace4535 Год назад +1

      a couple examples, just regarding the eren vs annie fight (y’all can feel free to argue w me or add more from other scenes):
      -eren transforming to fight annie: the camera follows eren’s lightning and flips the (his) world upside down
      -annie (a representative of marley) destroying that church of the walls (as eren throws her into it, technically his fault there, manga readers will know the spoilers)
      -and oh honey don’t even get me STARTED on the OPENING

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +129

    Fun fact: In a Lost Girls manga, Mikasa found and returned Annie her ring.

    • @matthiaskooij2712
      @matthiaskooij2712 5 месяцев назад +4

      Is there a way to read the Manga for free?

    • @matthiaskooij2712
      @matthiaskooij2712 5 месяцев назад +3

      And if not, where is the best place to read manga?

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +208

    Fun fact: Annie managed to escape Kenny Ackerman unscathed.

    • @vorpalweapon4814
      @vorpalweapon4814 Год назад +16

      youre true to your name i will give you that

    • @matthiaskooij2712
      @matthiaskooij2712 5 месяцев назад

      Wait what? Please elaborate

    • @miralirica3238
      @miralirica3238 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@matthiaskooij2712 chapter 97 i think!!! Annie was investigating the interior (she figured out the interior people were keeping their eyes on Krista/Historia). She followed Kenny around to get some info but he spotted her, so she claimed she was his child LOL

  • @rubixman7x7
    @rubixman7x7 Год назад +46

    18:18 It would work very well since most people don't actually know what Eren looks like and only have a verbal description of him. And most MP's who have seen him have only done so once or twice. Plus, why should they bother remembering his face if they were just planning on killing him.

  • @Kadoshiun
    @Kadoshiun Год назад +22

    I just wanna add one thing: The moment Eren transforms and the lightning strikes and the music climaxes the lyrics of the song DURING the lightning strike are "Ist das der Zerstörer?" (that´s german) which literally means "Is this the destroyer?". Two things there: For once, for random people in Stohess seeing a SECOND Titan appear out of nowhere, yes that is a pretty valid question but anyways. More importantly we obviously know now that oh boi YES HE IS!

  • @woolflower8316
    @woolflower8316 Год назад +8

    20:31 I remember my younger sister waiting for me to read this chapter in the manga because she wanted to talk about it. This was before there was an anime, we didn't even know there was online discussion of it (our internet at our old house was so slow at the time), this was when we thought titans were an experiment lol. It's just the two of us discussing the manga. We both knew it was Annie before it was revealed. Sawney and Bean getting killed. Armin's face as he looked at "Annie's" ODM gear. Armin was spared, Reiner got out unscathed, AND THEN the female titan knowing exactly where to go. The female titan's fighting style.
    That chapter just brings me back to our old house years ago, we were so young. When the anime dropped, we tried watching it on the tablet, but our internet was so slow it buffered forever lol. Good times.

    • @sor3999
      @sor3999 Год назад +1

      In the early days of the manga, I also thought the titans were an experiment gone wrong. Like some zombie apocalypse sort of thing except with titans. I am so glad it didn't turn out as basic as that lol.

  • @TommySkywalker11
    @TommySkywalker11 Год назад +14

    Something to note about the Jean stand in for Eren, the only MPs that ever saw Eren were at the tribunal and seeing him from about 20 feet away, so it wouldn't matter how similar they looked as long as the basic description of hair and body build were accurate

  • @tulip135
    @tulip135 Год назад +10

    10:48 What you pointed out about Annie standing against the flow of the river stood out to me big time; great observation. She's not walking along with the flow like the other MP's, but she's also not forcing her way against it as someone like Eren would do. She never bought into Marley’s bullshit indoctrination, and she never cared about the mission. But she did care about getting everything over with so that she can get back to her father; someone whose last-minute affection gave her all the motivation she needed, with hope that she would go back and peacefully live out the rest of her years with him (side note: it still boggles my mind how people brand her strictly as a cold-hearted bitch, when desiring love was always the entire premise of her character, but I digress). This puts her in a much more morally gray position than someone like Reiner, who was most definitely brainwashed by Marley, and thus seemed to have suffered worse cognitive dissonance during his time on Paradis, leading to his split-personality.
    That conversation she had with Marlow is actually cut short in the anime. In the manga, her philosophical perspective on this is explored in more depth. She tells him something along the lines of "People like you who go against the flow are rare; they get called special. So what should we call people who put their own interests ahead of others? They get called 'worthless,' or 'evil.' So from what I saw in the Training Corps, it was mostly made up of 'worthless' and 'evil' people who wanted to be in the Military Police."
    Marlo then responds, "So you're just trying to say that you guys aren't *really* that bad, right?"
    And Annie says, "No, I do think we're worthless and we're definitely evil. You certainly can't call us upright but... doesn't that just make us regular people?"
    She then continues, "So even if I'm the weak kind of person who gets swept along with the flow, I just want you to think of me as human, that's all."
    Annie was literally the first to highlight one of AOT's biggest philosophical themes: none of the characters are inherently good, nor are they inherently bad. She's incredible, and criminally underrated.

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 4 месяца назад +1

      Oh, yeah. And in the same episode, Armin's words: "a good person is someone who is convenient for you personally."

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 2 месяца назад +1

      Hard agree. I loved Eren’s drive for freedom, but he was too quick to dehumanize others for my taste, or look down at others for wanting a peaceful, simple life.

  • @elijahhakobian1060
    @elijahhakobian1060 Год назад +15

    I know this is late but i think Marlo is a character made to show what would happen if Eren was a crazy soldier without his titan ability and determination and how he would've died in the end without his abilities similar to Marlow. This showed that people blessed with power are the only ones that can truly make a change in the story via titan abilities, royal blood, or status

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +13

    I laughed when Eren called Jean "Horse face."

  • @somewhereatvinland
    @somewhereatvinland Год назад +7

    I love the way you over analyze AoT, I do exactly the same, but cannot share it with my couple/friends because it's too much for them.

  • @Ahrieffect
    @Ahrieffect 8 месяцев назад +2

    i realize im a bit late on this vid, but I think the tinfoil at 28:30 is a bit off base, and I think this was actually them building mikasa's light yandere vibes.
    I think she was always not very fond of annie since they are similar, and mikasa seems the jealous type. I think she's eager for eren to want nothing to do with her

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  8 месяцев назад +1

      For sure haha, I was 95% joking there. 😅
      Mikasa's an Ackerman, so she's immune from Eren's influence by default. The only thing there could be Ymir peeking in, but even that is a huge huge stretch.

  • @mahpell7173
    @mahpell7173 Год назад +37

    I usually despise when people overthink characters and plot in any other stories, but AoT is exclusively the only one I believe it can be this deep.
    Goddamit, Isayama.

  • @MattsCoolDog
    @MattsCoolDog Год назад +5

    I would like to add since I just noticed it, that the frame where the lightning strikes down on Erin's transformation is staged in a way that very much looks like the eye of a predatory animal, like a big cat or alligator, with the way that the bridge and buildings curve around the column of light ( 35:57 ).

  • @TadanoCandy
    @TadanoCandy 3 месяца назад +1

    I thought 28:50 Mikasa acted like this because she was suspecting Eren might be conflicted about Annie cause he like-likes her lol she also kinda looks like this when Eren and Historia were walking together in S3

  • @featherskaijay3060
    @featherskaijay3060 11 месяцев назад +1

    21:00
    In my view, 3dmg is assigned to the specific individual in order to account for the user's weight, depth, and height.
    From straps to their devices we can assume that their equipment isnt random but rather tailored to each soldier.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +98

    I felt bad for all the people who that caught Annie. They got caught in the blast when Annie transforms.

    • @qinyima5693
      @qinyima5693 8 месяцев назад +1

      you're a better person than I am then

  • @OlliOtter
    @OlliOtter Год назад +3

    At 26:55 I think that the reason the two are so similar (in universe at least) would actually be not that Eren influenced Mikasa to say that but more so that Eren almost directly picked that speech up from Mikasa subconsciously

  • @ari_peacock26
    @ari_peacock26 Год назад +9

    I hadn't put the parallels of Mikasa's stare versus later Eren's! That's a great point! I just thought Mikasa was hella jealous, thinking Eren had feelings for Annie. 😂

  • @maxwelldespisesyou704
    @maxwelldespisesyou704 Год назад +11

    The episode title could also be a reference to Annie in her titan form when Armin first saw her. When she spared him, she was looking down at him and smiling. One of the biggest factors leading to suspicion of Annie was how her titan had an uncanny resemblance to her, and I think Armin realized it in that moment.

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 7 месяцев назад

      The first time he is too scared, and after that he is surprised to make out something, and in the second, the emphasis is on the eyes of the Titan Woman, while the rest of the face is in shadow, so that we understand that Armin recognized her by her eyes.The first time he is too scared, and after that he is surprised to make out something, and in the second, the emphasis is on the eyes of the Female Titan, while the rest of the face is in shadow, so that we understand that Armin recognized her by her eyes. Sorry for my poor English.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +69

    There are two different versions of Annie's dad crying and apologizing to Annie.
    - There's Wit Studios version
    - There's Mappa Studio's version

    • @BuzzabeelYT
      @BuzzabeelYT Год назад +14

      WIT corrected their original version in the Lost Girls OVA.

  • @GRIMLOCK07
    @GRIMLOCK07 Год назад +4

    Pause @32:11, back when Zoe was happier being herself before becoming Commander of the Scouts.

  • @elevate07
    @elevate07 Год назад +4

    Can i just point out that as insightful as your analysis is, you also have a great sense of humor

  • @oJaymey
    @oJaymey Год назад +6

    Still too this day Erens transformation at the end of episode 24 still gets me hyped and gives me goosebump down to the scream going from human to bestial and the fade into the music playing absolute perfection. Another great analysis video looking forward to the one on episode 25 your doing amazing work on these

    • @oJaymey
      @oJaymey Год назад +1

      Also I think Annie’s laugh and smile is done perfectly to show how she has truly snapped her two sides have hit a breaking point she dosent want to kill them but she has to fight to see her father again

    • @Soundwave1900
      @Soundwave1900 Год назад

      Not to be that guy but I always found that stupid. Because in the manga Eren turned right in the tunnel, right after Mikasa made him understand its all real and there's no room for Anie to be an ally anymore. In the anime, however, he was unable to transform even when his comrades started dying, for some reason. It was later fixed in the recap btw, together with this flaming titan bs which makes 0 sense because we know fire doesn't harm titans, it basically makes the flaming aspect of his titan a purely cosmetical ability.

  • @terryjackson-chubick2506
    @terryjackson-chubick2506 Год назад +2

    I am LOVING the long videos. I'd take one of these every other day. I love the re-examination as I watch with my kiddo.

  • @יוסףמאירגוס
    @יוסףמאירגוס Год назад +3

    He asked why Marlo exists . He exists to die in season 3 and get his dreams crushed

  • @AoAstar
    @AoAstar Год назад +17

    when Armin asked Annie why she let him live she asks herself the same thing- and then she blushes and laughs
    now that we know what happens later, I always saw this as Annie realizing that even though she doesn't care about anything on the world but recently only cared for her father, her understanding that she somehow caught emotions for an enemy, out of anything or anywhere on the planet that she hates so much, she realizes she has feelings for Armin, who just trapped her. Who figured it all out because she let him live. And she let him live because she somehow choice *him* to care about, even though she recently discovered she *does* care
    and It's too ridiculous even for her
    tldr; i feel like the blushing laughing moment is annie realizing she likes armin, which is crazy to her

    • @Thechomp1eman
      @Thechomp1eman Год назад +2

      Shipped them since s1 ending

    • @AoAstar
      @AoAstar Год назад +2

      @@Thechomp1eman you are a patience being my friend

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 7 месяцев назад

      Compare her laughing face from Armin's pow and from Eren and Mikasa's pow.

  • @HoiPolloiNtertains
    @HoiPolloiNtertains Год назад +2

    Yaaassssssss! I’ve been waiting for this very episode for you to review. So excited to see you continue this series.

  • @haiderandazola6772
    @haiderandazola6772 Год назад +1

    This is probably one of the best series of videos I've seen on RUclips. I'm hooked.

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  Год назад +1

      Thank you 😭 Plenty more on the way soon™! 🙌

  • @amihar_nohara3183
    @amihar_nohara3183 Год назад +3

    Attack on peak never disappoint, every single minute is a masterpiece

  • @sonew2785
    @sonew2785 Год назад +5

    I enjoy armin being able to pick out that is wasnt annie's odm gear. I feel i reinforces that hes really smart, i enjoy him being smarter than us and being able to pick up on minute stuff that we cant.

  • @noor.alyateem
    @noor.alyateem Год назад +7

    I think the Annie said she was scared to enter the tunnel not just because she randomly chose that time to doubt them, but because at that moment she knew more clearly that they were very much likely on to her. Leading her underground into the tunnel meant she’d have trouble becoming a titan underground. She likely picked up on this and hence why that being the moment it all happened

  • @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
    @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Год назад +9

    I mean the line Armin said to Annie that good and bad is subjective makes a lot of sense in real life that no one is born good or evils and that anyone has the capacity of being good or evil, I mean when we are born, we are all natural and we learn about good and bad growing up which shapes us into either being a good person or bad person.
    Unless certain groups out there will put good people in the category of bad people because they had that crammed into their minds, kinda like the Warriors experienced that when the Marley government said that every Eldian including them are all evil especially the ones on Paradis just like how in real life when a lot of people will put good people from a race or culture in a label saying they are all bad people just because of a few bad people, if that makes sense

  • @Catmouflage
    @Catmouflage Год назад +23

    I think Marco's ODM gear was basically used as an in-universe reason for the CHARACTERS to suspect Annie, and was unnecessary for the viewer because frankly if you couldn't connect Annie to the female titan by their appearances alone I'd be concerned.
    It's like what you said about Jean and Eren only looking alike to us the viewers. The female titan OBVIOUSLY looks like Annie to us, but the characters would need more evidence

    • @jonathanferguson7791
      @jonathanferguson7791 Год назад +7

      I posted another comment about it but, former soldier here, you kinda DO know what all you and at least your squad's gear looks like pretty well. You have to use it, clean it, etc. I received my m4 and it looked a little scratched right off the get-go a buddy of mine (in my team actually) had his m4 actually discolored and looked pretty fuckin' old. I don't think it's as bit of a stretch IRL to know somebody's gear. Especially if you've helped them do maintenance/clean it. You know what i mean? IRL it's way more obvious especially if gear GETS used.

    • @jonathanferguson7791
      @jonathanferguson7791 Год назад +5

      (meaning not all your gear is brand-new and if it is and you use it, it immediately bc scratched and used etc)

  • @mangojelly23
    @mangojelly23 Год назад +6

    Annie's laugh makes sense to me because there are times where something is so absurd (positively or negatively) that i simply laugh... just because of the absurdity of the situation, that's a way to react too

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +59

    I think Annie cried when Levi and Mikasa took Eren was because Annie didn't want to kill all those Scouts.

    • @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
      @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Год назад +34

      I think it's because she knows that if she went back to Marley empty handed then her adopted father will be killed by the Marley government, something Reiner explains in Season 4 to Annie that if they went home to Marley then not only will the three be called failures and be stripped of their Titans, they will be stripped of being Marlean Citizens and they along with their families will be killed

    • @hessiankyojin
      @hessiankyojin Год назад +20

      Nah, she has no remorse for killing them all just to return to her father, as confirmed in "Night of the End".
      She cried because she failed, and she is still far away from going back home.

    • @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
      @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Год назад +9

      @Eh? 一人一 season 4 explains more about the Eldians who live in Marley, if you watch the episode with Annie, Reiner and Bertholdt as kids before they reach Eren's hometown, Annie says that they should cut their losses and head back to Marley because of how they lost the Jaw Titan to a pure Titan who we found out was Ymir, Reiner attacks Annie and explains why they can't go back and what would happen if they did go back to Marley. So I brought citizenship into my reply because when Pieck was given the cart Titan for passing the military training, her father got medical treatment from Marley, something he wouldn't have gotten if Pieck didn't pass so of Annie, Reiner and Bertholdt went back to Marley then their families would pay the price and be stripped of their rightfully obtained Marlean citizenship

    • @Martinyonko
      @Martinyonko Год назад +1

      @Eh? 一人一 bc stripping their citizenship has more implications, that being that their family is affected too

  • @ReleaseZeKrakken
    @ReleaseZeKrakken Год назад +7

    I was so glad with the anime changing his last S1 transformation. In the manga he doesn't have the moment of not being able to transform he just kinda does it.

  • @codeviper8665
    @codeviper8665 11 месяцев назад +2

    This whole series is some serious avocadoes, you should be proud :)

  • @calvinwright2214
    @calvinwright2214 Год назад +5

    I’m binging these, I’ve noticed you keep saying the episodes turned out longer than expected, meanwhile I’m here wanting longer eps lol

  • @brianinfante9757
    @brianinfante9757 Год назад +2

    28:40 I think is Mikasa trully self motivated reaction, she had this rivality with Annie, and is just pissed off that they can die under her foot just bc Eren is too pussy to understand that she`s a traitor. I think that moment was so shicking to Eren, that it just stuck to his own personality, so basically, Eren's way to persuade focusing his anger in his stare and simple speech, was taken from mikasa in this moment.

  • @jacobhobbs7714
    @jacobhobbs7714 Год назад +2

    I wish I found this series of yours later on in life. I could binge it that way! 😂
    Great work as always ❤

  • @Malachiteinferno
    @Malachiteinferno Год назад +5

    I think the craziest part of annie's training scene is it's literally showing us the world outside the walls, right under our very noses.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 2 месяца назад

      How so? It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the show

  • @arceuslegend4605
    @arceuslegend4605 Год назад +4

    Regarding Eren's transformation, I think it's also worth pointing out the lyrics in the song, as we hear them quite often when Eren's titan shows up, particularly the first line: "Ist das der Zerstörer oder der Schöpfer?"
    This, in German, translates to "Is that the destroyer, or the creator?", obviously referring to Burrito and the Colossal titan at the time, but this also applies very neatly to Eren, something that the show also seemed to think. Because yeah, as the current holder of the Founder, Eren has the ability to destroy the world, but he can also shape a new one. A neat example of the latter is later down the line when we learn that the Founder was once used to make Eldians immune to a plague that was ravaging the rest of the world. It all boils down to the fact that Eren literally has the power of a god at his hands, so it's very fitting to ask what his true intentions really are, especially this early in the series.
    Another line in that song that comes soon after that also holds a much deeper meaning now is "Was finden wir jenseits dieses Horizontes?", which translates to, what will we find beyond the horizon. Again, this at the time was meant to provoke the question of "what really is out there" after the initial attack on Shiganshina, but it becomes so much darker when you realize that this also applies to Marley as well. As far everyone across the sea is concerned, Paradis is full of evil demons, waiting to slaughter us. When the warriors departed for their mission, they too had no idea what they'll find beyond the horizon. And it becomes even darker when you hear it play at the end of S4P2 as Marleyan soldiers flee their positions, and see Eren's founder towering over the rumbling while this exact line is played in the background.
    Obviously a lot of this is very irrelevant at this point in the story, but in the spirit of overanalyzing every minute detail I think it's great to look back now and realize how masterfully Wit was able to foreshadow the end of the series just through music. It's a part that I really wish this series on RUclips would about a bit more imo.

  • @rafaellucadetena9355
    @rafaellucadetena9355 Год назад +14

    Nah, I think Eren just took inspiration from Mikasa that moment when he did the same thing to his father.
    Like, he was improvising. He saw his father doubting and remembered what happened with Annie and how Mikasa pushed him to fight.
    Avocado.

  • @lucasm9761
    @lucasm9761 Год назад +2

    Keep it up chief, I love these videos

    • @Koroto
      @Koroto  Год назад +3

      Will do 🙌

    • @ligmalul
      @ligmalul Год назад +1

      ​@@Korotoseriously, please don't stop this is some of the best content I've ever seen. Don't wanna throw you off your groove but if you only made these to expedite the process I wouldn't be mad hehe. Thank you though, makes me have a greater appreciation for the show.

  • @EleanorRea
    @EleanorRea Год назад +31

    I think Annie has to be one of the all time sympathetic villains of anime rivaled only by avocado

  • @V4-Vane
    @V4-Vane 5 месяцев назад

    Currently rewatching this series along with AoT. Thank you for giving me a deeper insight into this entire journey; I didn't think rewatching AoT could be better, until I accidentally stumbled upon your videos while trying to overanalyze it myself... Best coincidence ever! All of your content is pure quality. Oh, and, P.S.: Totally off topic, apologies, but I don't think you're ugly at all; I find you very cute and intellectually interesting :).

  • @ForeverTraitor
    @ForeverTraitor Год назад +5

    I always thought Marlo was more reminiscent of Marco, who wanted to join the MP out of a genuine sense of honour.
    Also another parallel to draw is Jean and Reiner taking on characteristics of Marco and Marcel respectively after their deaths. And in a show about people eating each other and gaining their memories, I think it's very much intentional.
    Isayama really likes killing people with Mar in their name, even as far back as Wall Maria in episode 1.

  • @nobodysbusiness5186
    @nobodysbusiness5186 Год назад +4

    I think the blush is a way of reacting to being caught. I don’t know about everyone, but when you’re caught in a lie, your body starts to heat up and you blush

  • @HavianEla
    @HavianEla 2 месяца назад +2

    Dude, the Armin x Annie lore is so, so good. Much more delicious than initially anticipated 😂 I don’t know when I started shipping them so much, but boy, are they adorable.

  • @mariaeduardaribeiro4786
    @mariaeduardaribeiro4786 Год назад +1

    cant wait for you to start overanalyzing season 4!!

  • @hessiankyojin
    @hessiankyojin Год назад +2

    28:28 I think it's the reverse. Future Eren became like that because of how Mikasa did it here.

  • @nabbly
    @nabbly Год назад +1

    23:12 Oh man, I'd kill for Korotos to overanalyze Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul

  • @DavidVasquezG
    @DavidVasquezG Год назад +1

    Great episode, thank you for this series! Avocado! 😊

  • @crewsco07
    @crewsco07 Год назад +1

    i really love these videos, i love over analyzing this show

  • @moscardonexe2783
    @moscardonexe2783 Год назад +2

    12:18 i dont remember if there was a way for a garrison or scout member to prove themselves and access the mp, but it there isnt the mp's numbers are mathmatically impossible, because we know that eren's promotion is the 104th, so that means that the max number of mps, given by the fact that only the top 10 can even access the mp, should be 1040(barring any cases like most of the 104th's top 10 joining the scouts anyways), and yes i know im a nerd

  • @yusufemir8314
    @yusufemir8314 Год назад +1

    Holy avocado, great stuff as always! I love your analysis!

  • @wes4736
    @wes4736 Год назад

    33:21 - here as you mention this, even though we don't know yet that any bloodletting can cause a willful transformation, that he was pushing himself up the pike to force trigger one. But now, i ALSO really like the idea you posed about his bursting blood vessels, perhaps he had an aneurysm which by damaging his brain triggered his transformation.
    Call it a little headcanon now, i know the scene is still all about that RAGE. But if part of his brain broke to make it happen, i think it could supplement or at least not outright contradict to his own conscious thought ceasing in favor of the sheer emotion of anger for the rest of the scene.

  • @gabrielnascimento7718
    @gabrielnascimento7718 Год назад +1

    Man, thank u for the videos, u are amazing. Please, keep going till the end of S4. Best aot videos ever

  • @alexdemaster_5796
    @alexdemaster_5796 Год назад

    11:30 avocado!
    (took me a good 10 times to pause on the exact moment to read all the tiny text

  • @jonathanferguson7791
    @jonathanferguson7791 Год назад +3

    Anyone in the actual army that's had to do weapon's maintenance knows you can kinda tell whos gear is whos. You receive gear, lots and lots of gear, and you're responsible whether you're 18 or 45 for that gear within a hierarchy. So your rifle may have scratches or dents, the gear that goes on that, everything from pq15's etc, all can develop things like marks and stains (you do your best to keep it all uniform) but trust me, of ALL THE CRAZY STUFF in AOT the most believable part to me, as a former infantryman, is knowing your gear and your buddy's gear no matter how GI your supposed to make it after every training and operation. You just get used to every little deformity etc

  • @Na-ris-a
    @Na-ris-a Год назад +2

    I think the ODM gear angle being a clue is kinda like lets say you got issued a gun in training and you’ve spent 3 years living with this gun cleaning it using it you would know your gun when you see because of its marks and scratches etc. + armin being very observant = a possibility he could of known Marco’s ODM

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy Год назад +2

    I enjoy listening to someone fangirl over this show the way I do

  • @JalenDaniels-f4c
    @JalenDaniels-f4c Год назад

    All the effort you put into these videos WILL pay off, ❤

  • @Abraham_the_pierra
    @Abraham_the_pierra 3 месяца назад +1

    this episode really was an avocado.

  • @dalkent3417
    @dalkent3417 Год назад +32

    Am i the only one to realized Annie looks more beautiful when she laughs, as she is seen from Armin"s POV ? Does she appear prettier to his eyes ?

    • @remphz3321
      @remphz3321 Год назад +3

      bro.....what?

    • @Lauren_12695
      @Lauren_12695 Год назад +5

      @@remphz3321ok the way he worded it was weird but Hajime Isayama said that for example Mikasa was drawn to be more “pretty” if the story was being told from Eren’s POV to show his feelings towards her. So I think, OP was wondering if the same was done with Armin and Annie. (That’s how I chose to interpret it lol 😂)

    • @s0meRand0m129
      @s0meRand0m129 Год назад +1

      ​@@remphz3321nah , he just has "I can fix her" fetish

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it is. Note that all three of them have different reactions to her laughter:
      Mikasa looks with anger, Eren is scared or does not believe what is happening.
      Armin is literally fascinated by her.

    • @user-59559
      @user-59559 7 месяцев назад +1

      In the second meeting of Armin and the female Titan, from Armin's pow, we are shown a completely different face of the female Titan - sweet, gentle and even a little beautiful, while everyone else sees a monster.

  • @islayyourhoyo
    @islayyourhoyo Год назад +1

    6:10 Personally I believe Rod Reiss knew Eren had the founding titan as he was there when Grisha took it from Freida. Once they knew the attack titan was back after 5+ years it would only go hand in hand imo.

    • @s0meRand0m129
      @s0meRand0m129 Год назад +1

      I don't think he know it until the news about a kid named Eren Yeager being a titan spread because who else within the walls has the knowledge about the titan other than the royal family?

    • @islayyourhoyo
      @islayyourhoyo Год назад

      @@s0meRand0m129 Yeah that’s what I mean brother. Like rod seen Greisha eat the founder as the attack Titan. So once word got out he definitely had to think the attack Titan has both founder and attack Titan. All in all what a crazy plot. Sad it’s over

  • @songfei501
    @songfei501 Год назад +8

    I think that Jean playing Eren would work because most people have never sean him. Most of the MP have just got a description of Eren So the it's not that far fetch. Love youre vidieos❤❤

  • @luda.chrisotzz
    @luda.chrisotzz Год назад +3

    One thing I always wondered was why were the titan wielders kids, like Zeke was the only teenager in the new generation of titan wielders. Weren’t there more capable honorary Marleyans around Zeke’s training class that could have wielded & went on the mission instead? Avocado

    • @AIMalek
      @AIMalek Год назад +3

      Children are the easiest to manipulate

    • @luda.chrisotzz
      @luda.chrisotzz Год назад +3

      @@AIMalek no I understand that Warrior training is mandatory to start when they are young kids because of that fact, but my question is why not give it to a probably more capable warrior who’s older & been in training longer, like Zeke who looked like he ended up getting it by the time he was a teenager

    • @AIMalek
      @AIMalek Год назад +4

      My guess is there's always one who is a bit older and is the leader. Either that or the age just doesn't matter that much, as long as there are children they'll use them. If there isn't they'll just use older soldiers. Tom ksaver wasn't that young when he was the beast titan.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla 2 месяца назад

      I think in part it has to do with the 13 year timer. Using an elder teenager or young adult might lead to their bodies breaking down and getting weaker with age. 30+ year olds, even in good physical shape, are more prone to injury and whatnot. Add in the fact children are easier to manipulate (as stated above), and eager to please those that they love or those that give them even crumbs of affection, and there you go, you’ve got the perfect enemy that most wouldn’t even want to put down in the first place. Because, really, who WANTS to end the life of a child? It’s partially psychological warfare.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Год назад +10

    I think Annie had a crush on Armin. That's why she didn't kill him.

    • @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay
      @PrinceYamiUchihaCosplay Год назад +3

      I mean Armin does have a small crush on her, not as big as Bertholdt but in Season 4 we can see that Armin does care about Annie, plus Armin really didn't wanna believe that the Titan who spared him twice on the battlefield was Annie because he grew to class her as a friend but knew that if it was true then that friendship would be broken

  • @emg910728
    @emg910728 Год назад

    I love the analysis of the branches through the lense of my own military experience. Those who serve closer to danger are very different than REMFs

  • @Treebohr
    @Treebohr Год назад

    I love this series. I've always liked over-analysis of media, it's why I initially started watching Game/Film Theory stuff. I love going deep into the random, tiny details and seeing what kind of conclusions can be reached from them.
    P.S. Avocados are neat

  • @blakedoner3480
    @blakedoner3480 Год назад +1

    Great stuff as always.
    Avocado

  • @NvrchFotia
    @NvrchFotia Год назад +4

    Swapping Eren with Jean would have worked fine because there were no cameras on Paradis at the time. The kidnappers said Jean matched the description and they were right. This was the first time they had seen Jean and they had never seen Eren.

  • @baahubali3213
    @baahubali3213 Год назад +1

    Came here for that life-changing laugh, stayed for the over analysis

  • @1sthename70
    @1sthename70 Год назад

    I've only watched the series once, and this makes me want to watch it again

  • @red_ring_tapes
    @red_ring_tapes Год назад

    These scenes are even more heartbreaking when you have an in-depth analysis of the sheer freaking amount of effort into each emotion

  • @MysticMylesZ
    @MysticMylesZ Год назад +2

    9:05 with skill and faness too

  • @viniciusaraujolago
    @viniciusaraujolago Год назад

    I have to say, this series of videos is really great(Just like a good *Avocado* vitamin), keep up the good work at your own time

  • @MarcosAG90
    @MarcosAG90 Год назад +2

    Hey man, suuuuuuuper fan of your vids, and specially this series. So, I don't quite see that Eren/Imir thing as that obvious even in the episode where you first mention it. Could you please expand or elaborate on it in future videos? Thanks man. Love.
    BTW: That "Burrito and Reiner" thing was gold

  • @nanosum1
    @nanosum1 Год назад

    LOVE. YOUR. UPLOADS. Thank you

  • @vinsanity3510
    @vinsanity3510 Год назад +4

    It’s funny cuz you get human moments in this show so well I was surprised you got a tinfoil for the Mikasa scene.
    It’s not Ymir, it’s “Mikasa’s Strength”. It’s been alluded to since the beginning. From the early episodes, Eren straight up states he wants to be strong like Mikasa. Strength in muscles, strength to make the tough decisions.
    She was the first to move after Eren “died” to the old man Titan. Once she unlocked her Ackerman power, she never stopped moving forward like Eren wants to.
    She just influenced him so deeply, he saw himself in his father and probably hated himself for being so WEAK.

  • @mgritton1
    @mgritton1 Год назад

    It’s a good day when a new retrospective comes out 🎉

  • @Challengeofchip
    @Challengeofchip Год назад +3

    In the manga, I think Annie simply smiles, and the anime took it a bit farther with her whole laughter fit. Also, in the manga, Eren is able to transform after Miakasa reminds him that “the world is a cruel place.” But I prefer the anime’s take where he still struggles for a while longer to transform, making the final moment when he does all the more avocado, I mean epic.