That's great news and everything, but I spent the last two weeks grinding the Israeli tech tree, from 7.7-13.7, lol. I never bothered with the Israeli tree because, except in the case of a few different missiles, the planes are in other tech trees. A lot of wasted time lol.
Gaijin can make dynamic BR, so that aircraft with really similar differences can automatically adjust their BR when some modifications are manually disabled. For example, F15E will upgrade ASEA radar. If you enable it, your BR will be raised.
So the Israel version would be the same ? The only reason they didn't have them before was bc they wanted the f15c to be the top ADF to have diversity but if that was the actual case than they should've added the engines to the C, the one that DIDNT have them.
Removing Grom-1 while launching 6 Kh-38MT is just hilarious for sure. It’s not about balance since Kh-38 is here, they just removed Grom-1 because it strikes Mini base too easy. Thats why its removed from game! average gaijin moment for sure.
gotta thank youtubers like you for letting the community know about this issue and other RUclipsrs like seek, also could you do a comparison of dcs or irl flight model statistics to the mig 29/su27 models in warthunder, so that more people will start to learn complain to gaijin about this so that they finally remake the flight models.
DCS cannot be comparable model, you have to compare with EM diagram of it. And actually there is no report about that. Maybe this FM is more historical? idk
@@Takamiya_Mio even though dcs might not actually be a good comparable model still these aircraft flight models in dcs are built from the ground up, even flaming cliffs models and considering how they've all gotten a update I would say they're the closest simulation of proper russian flight models for now at least. and guess what. I hear that ED plans to work with the ukrainians on the su27 model since working with the russians might not be the best plane out there and this would mean we would get a high fidelity su27 model in dcs which I don't doubt would be very accurate in terms of flight characteristics to the real life counterpart.
@@luciusartorius3437there’re just not as many of them. Also GJN just ignores all bug reports about Su-27/MiG-29 flight performance (there’re a sh*t ton of them with A LOT of sources like different official documentations, real life footages, flight manuals etc) but all of them are in “open” state with no replies except for a couple of reports that were initially wrong and gjn actually replied to them and only them to just prove that those reports were wrong which was obvious for pretty much everyone who has flight manuals of those jets 🙃
I am a U.S main for air but, I hate how the FM is for su27 and mig 29. Makes it to easy to beat them in a dogfight. Would like s challenger against those jets in a dogfight for once.
MATT I love you so much. I was halfway through making a video about this topic when I saw your video pop up in my feed. Some people think your upload speed is annoying but you’re genuinely the most breaking news type content creator in war thunder and we need you!
There are suggestions for the AGM-142 Popeye and the SPICE bombs for it, hopefully they add this for it so it’s more properly on par with the F-15E in ground battles. Unless people complain about it getting them lol
@@C8-H8 yeah, I think if it does happen they wouldn’t get added until the December update, but considering it’s a minor nation with a pretty small player count, it likely won’t get added for some time
Yeah i will admit I wish the russians had some more modern stuff. I would love to see a Foxhound and how that would work in game, and honestly I with we got a su27sm2 instead of the base sm with the crappy radar.
@@bt_the_yank6234the sm radar is completely modeled wrong it’s suppose to be a way better radar but no sinse Russian main don’t cry we don’t get anything good
So the reason it didn't have them is because they wanted the C to be the top adf in u.s for diversity, so logically the C would get engines it NEVER had.
@@bt_the_yank6234 Not modern, they should fix existing. Su-27 and mig-29 with fixed fm, r-77 with correct drag modelling, r-73 without wobbling and with correct irccm would be more than enough
@@dutch24no lol. Playing the mig28 you'd very much feel that much thrust. In terms of power it feels like a undercooked F15A. Outright worse than the F15A, but equal to slightly better to F15Cs
Where is the real thrust of Mig 29SMT RD-33 Series 3 then? In war thunder the Dry Thrust is 3920 kgf and Afterburner is 6820 kgf. The real life one is Dry Thrust 5037 kgf and Afterburner is 8300.
I love how viggen consistently getting nerfed instead of making it realistically fast on the deck viggen is capable to reach mach 1.3 at sea level a.k.a faster than a mig29 in the longer terms
Mhm. Put M1A1 SEP V2 vs T90M :) i mean american jets seem to be better but u cant tell it about tanks. I mean abrams is cool but lets be honest. Russian tanks are much better
I don't know how to feel about this one. The US Mains have been whining so damn hard lately. Oh no, the Grom 1 is so good, the F15E doesn't get any. Oh no, the F117 can be locked by a PESA radar from a modern SPAA, oh no the engine of the F15E is worse... It's just insane. There is now zero reason to grind Israel. The F15E was already a much better Multirole than the Su34 but now it's basically an F18 Hornet which performs just as well in Air to air as in Air to ground. There are no tradeoffs bringing that thing in GRB, none. I do have the US Air tree maxed out myself and I think that this was an L from Gaijins part for overall balance
Su 34 deserves R77-1 IMO. I was opposed to gaijin not adding the American equivalent if the Israeli variant was coming in the same patch because F15E's did get upgraded to have it and gaijin would have been essentially adding two different generations of the plane the late 80s original vs the upgraded one in the 90s which we also exported. Why make the US one worse when you can just add the equivalent upgrade to it? But No I do agree at least for air russia needs some extra upgrades as well like better engines on the SU27SM and 29SMT, and just flight model reworks overall
“There is now zero reason to grind Israel” brother it starts at rank 5 or 6 skipping a decent chunk of the grind, and gets a butt ton of US munitions and vehicles. 8/10 nations get US vehicles and missiles/munitions, doesn’t that make US completely useless to grind?
More like you are whining because you cannot drop a cruise missile from 100kms+ away, Grom 2 is just as good for such tiny WT maps anyway. Also nobodys complaining about a PESA detecting F-117 since PESA radars are not even in F-117s BR range
This is solved by the fact that they simply had to introduce the early 86 version of the evidence, with old engines, without HMD. And then they would add the late one with new engines with HMD and a full weapons package. And not the 2004 version right away.
I feel like In War Thunder, equipping Israel’s F-15I with indigenous Spice bombs instead of the standard U.S. GBU series would bring greater authenticity and gameplay diversity, reflecting Israel’s real-world military capabilities Like the Spice bomb 1000 glide bomb and the Spice 2000 JDAM
While stuff like this is nice, it's not important and is unnecessary dev time that would be wasted when it could be used to make the game better, granted Gaijin does nothing but waste time and make the game worse; so it doesn't really matter. But the fact that Israel itself is it's own tree is already really stupid though.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 gaijin gave way too much ke protection to the merkavas anyway, these were made with the sole purpose of killing civilians and hamas terrorists and taking one or two rpg 7 shot before retreating, even in the news you can see that anything with more penetrative power than the rpg7 just phase through the armor and destroys them
I don't understand why they don't give Israel it's popeye missiles. I'm sure someone is going to tell me they're way to powerful. Brimstones are a good example of something that should be good turned into another vanilla GBU that's already in game.
Do you mean the Russian engine that was made in 2007 should be introduced because an American engine from 1986 is in the game? 21 years of rocket science between them? That's a double standard, but in the opposite direction that you think it is.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator the real life chronology doesnt matter. if gaijin balanced the game by this, it would be terrible. the j7e would fight f22s but yeah russian bias
@@CyberneticArgumentCreatorwell, I hope you do know that first - first PW-229 was installed on the F-15E in 1991 for just testing, second - they finished modifying F-15E’s only in 2007 (I mean engine modification) and 3rd - a lot of F-15E’s have never got those PW-229 engines. Also the F-15E in game is a version from at least 2004 cause it has HMD (same goes for F-15C btw)
If you guys think that the F-15E with his new engines is Nutz, you can expect the same from the same from the Typhoon, and even more from the Rafale. Both Typhoon and Rafale have a sick acceleration. But especially the Rafale with his 1:10 T/W ratio that allow him to be able to exceed Mach 1 full vertically. Both the Typhoon and Rafale are nutz. Now i understand why they said: "the Typhoon is such a platform to take into account" Not only is fast, but also turn as hell.
eurofighter has a higher thrust to weight than the rafale, actually. rafale isnt even mach 2 capable according to most sources and its thrust to weight is around 0.98 whereas eurofighter is 1.15.
Per the snail they only weren't giving it the engines bc they wanted the f15c to be the top adf. If they wanted that they should give the c the engines it NEVER had. It only makes sense that the E gets the engines it had.
@@XxCarrt3rxX I want remember you when F14 got added. USA with 4th gen aircraft and ARH missiles against russian 3rd gen Mig23 with only shit Fox1 compared to Phoenix.
I dont get this and that so what? Everybody does. How do you like them Pythons 4 and AIM 120 c5. You will get everything when they introduce counterparts stop saying nonsense 😂
@@sumchipstarchy5469 Did you forget why 27ER came to the game ? I will gladly refresh your selective memory , AIM-7F carriers were absolutely trashing R-24R carriers in BVR since December 2021 , F-14 was absolutely trashing everything uncontested both in BVR and WVR since June 2022 , the only FOX-3 carrier in the game for full 2yrs .... then R-27ER comes to the game in December 2022 to at least give the BVR advantage to the red side , WVR still remained in the hands of blue side with the F-16, not like before where blue side had everything yet you sit here acting as if R-27ER came out of the sky to reinforce a fictious red side dominance ... Did you forget my clownfish , there you go !
Let’s fucking go, they listened Thanks Gaijin, as a reward I will boost RP and buy SL and GE to the grind, have ur money Edit: Mat I’m sorry for the stuff I’ve said in the past, ur vids kinda just make me happy now since it’s good news and stuff. Seriously tho, u might wanna get some sleep, take a break if u need it, take care
Alright and the feedback about number of players in top tier? And the feedback about flankers and mig29s flight model? And the feedback about j10 and jf17 hud? Oh yeah i just remembered, gaijin only cares about USA...
Actually 77-1 could be last ARH for russia since there is no infos about 77M, Gaijin could delay more and more to add with other new ARHs. There is really nothing unlike AIM-120 variants.
Do you enjoy the F-14s current BR? I feel it’s not a very special plane especially the F-14B fighting full loaded FOX-3 slingers while having sparrows.
@fubuixmas the rwr or engines ? Cause technically speaking beside being a pain in the ass for ground players the f-15E is gonna be a glorified f-16c with more armaments and speed in air it's a heavy bastard prone to getting amrammed Rwr nerfs are unessecary at all ahistorical and a blatant nato sided nerf that really doesn't need to be made And the brimstone ? I agree about it being too op for the game by targeting itself but Lazer guided ??? That just makes it a worse Grom 1 give it tv guidance or gps at least
Nope, just need proper FM for the R-77 instead of the blatant joke we have right now . Gaijin managed to make R-77 inferiof to AIM-120A/B despite R-77 being vastly superior to those variants IRL 🤦
It's a holo victory, as a us main I'm happy but at what cost. We whined and moaned to daddy to give us what we want and then complain when someone else has something we don't like regardless if it's realistic or not. Even if we didn't get the engines honestly it's fine because America has one of if not the best air trees in the game, but yea Russian bias or something with their crappy flight models that people complain about but it never gets fixed
Because the Su34 was just better than the F-15E in every way in the air to ground role. Do Russian players just forget they have the best CAS in the game?
also the max payload is 16T but ingayjine it's only a shit 8T while having the same max weight... and the Su-27SM ofc should have better FM, but also radar, fox3(R-77-1), better engine(12500KGF+) MiG-29 should get better FM and MiG-29SMT much better FM, bc it's worse than the f4fice also the prem viggen should be 13,7 in arb being a better toptier than German's highest plane
su-34 literally still have the best air to ground weaponry in the entire game, you people whine so much for having the literal best tech gaijin has added
@@yuanfurbax f4f KWS is moving to 13.0 In case you didn't know , also there's no way the prem viggen is better than the F4, better fm maybe , but no HMD , bad radar , bad rwr as well as no irccm missiles. No way it's even on the same level as jf-17
Still has more countermeasures. Also wild to say they don't care about Israel. They're still getting the best plane for air rb and that hasn't changed.
@@martinwellhoefer9159 I rly hope germans get f18c+ in next update... And not just some nerfed variant, but with good fm and weapons. I main US and my friend is german main, i just can't look at him suffering even more.
Nothing to rejoice about lol it shouldve already had tht engine no reason to have 220 in it other than to artifically nerf it. Hell if they didnt want it to take the C spot then just have the cft perma stuck to the E they very rarely fly without cft on
So the MiG-29SMT will also get RD-33 serie 3 engines it should have! Right? no...? ok...
Rusia isn't allowed to have good 4 gen fighters since 2 years ago
@@ser43_OLDC it makes no sense that gaijin still hasnt fixed the mig 29 and su 27 flight models
@@ser43_OLDC also the r77 should be way better than they are in game
@@ser43_OLDC But they got the best anti-air and ships, only god know how Gaijin thinks.
yeah I can agree that its kinda bs. Even as a u.s main I still like my Russian fighters too. The smt REALLY needs those better engines
I honestly didn't expect this. I had already come to terms with it but cool, nice to see they listened this time
Genuinely thought gaijin wouldn’t give a crap.
That's great news and everything, but I spent the last two weeks grinding the Israeli tech tree, from 7.7-13.7, lol. I never bothered with the Israeli tree because, except in the case of a few different missiles, the planes are in other tech trees. A lot of wasted time lol.
@@jayklink851 I get it bro, I did the same thing.
Honestly if I were gaijin, I'd make the engine upgrade modification actually unlock the 229
that would be really good.
Gaijin can make dynamic BR, so that aircraft with really similar differences can automatically adjust their BR when some modifications are manually disabled. For example, F15E will upgrade ASEA radar. If you enable it, your BR will be raised.
So the Israel version would be the same ?
The only reason they didn't have them before was bc they wanted the f15c to be the top ADF to have diversity but if that was the actual case than they should've added the engines to the C, the one that DIDNT have them.
As an american main, I approve.
Modifications, that actually make sense? Unacceptable!
They did this to make us forget about the rwr nerf
NEVER FORGET
Real
Rwr nerf doesnt matter russians already have bad rwr
so the F15 already got 20Gbu+ and getting better engines and the su-34 getting nerfed and getting the Grom-1 removed (Balanced)
Removing Grom-1 while launching 6 Kh-38MT is just hilarious for sure.
It’s not about balance since Kh-38 is here, they just removed Grom-1 because it strikes Mini base too easy.
Thats why its removed from game!
average gaijin moment for sure.
gotta thank youtubers like you for letting the community know about this issue and other RUclipsrs like seek, also could you do a comparison of dcs or irl flight model statistics to the mig 29/su27 models in warthunder, so that more people will start to learn complain to gaijin about this so that they finally remake the flight models.
Lets not forget the smt and sm missing their TGP.
DCS cannot be comparable model, you have to compare with EM diagram of it.
And actually there is no report about that. Maybe this FM is more historical? idk
@@Takamiya_Mio even though dcs might not actually be a good comparable model still these aircraft flight models in dcs are built from the ground up, even flaming cliffs models and considering how they've all gotten a update I would say they're the closest simulation of proper russian flight models for now at least.
and guess what. I hear that ED plans to work with the ukrainians on the su27 model since working with the russians might not be the best plane out there and this would mean we would get a high fidelity su27 model in dcs which I don't doubt would be very accurate in terms of flight characteristics to the real life counterpart.
And naturally I can expect the SU-27’s to stop underperform and get fixed to their actual capabilities. Right? Right??
Russia players don't whine nearly hard enough
@@luciusartorius3437there’re just not as many of them.
Also GJN just ignores all bug reports about Su-27/MiG-29 flight performance (there’re a sh*t ton of them with A LOT of sources like different official documentations, real life footages, flight manuals etc) but all of them are in “open” state with no replies except for a couple of reports that were initially wrong and gjn actually replied to them and only them to just prove that those reports were wrong which was obvious for pretty much everyone who has flight manuals of those jets 🙃
@@luciusartorius3437they whine the loudest
@ranger887 nice projection, go whine about pantsir or something lolcow
@@ranger887 People like you remind me of the amount of tears that caused the sea level to rise so that R-73 would not be added.
I'm waiting on news and new stuff 24/7 and this channel helps alot 👍
F-15E's of Mountain Home AFB never used P&W F-100-220 engines which in this case is pretty ironic.. glad they're getting changed.
surely they can fix the fm of the su27 right?
Mig29 and su27 fix next?
Yeah their fms really need a buff. I can honestly say the f15c needs a slight fm buff too because it feels heavier than it should.
R27 fix next?
I am a U.S main for air but, I hate how the FM is for su27 and mig 29. Makes it to easy to beat them in a dogfight. Would like s challenger against those jets in a dogfight for once.
How about no they dont need it f-15e needed it the most
@@supertomcathornet8233 bruh wat
meanwhile germany... 💀
Yeah... they have been forgotten about. But dw, I'm sure they'll make an update dedicated to them and make them really good once Eurofighter comes
@@DrlftySwlftyYea Cant wait for IT to be 2 Updates late and at 20.0 because thats how it Always goes
Japan players, first time?
Love the chew chew 9 engine update, will grind for the f15e
MATT I love you so much. I was halfway through making a video about this topic when I saw your video pop up in my feed. Some people think your upload speed is annoying but you’re genuinely the most breaking news type content creator in war thunder and we need you!
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@@zehi04hey. You weren’t supposed to see that zehi
@@ClankerWanker i wish i could unsee it
@@zehi04we play tomorrow?
@ClankerWanker probably not i got stuff to do for shool
But the f15I doesn’t get mavericks, so now it’s a straight downgrade, makes sense.
that only matters in ground though. its the same in air
F15I still gets more countermeasures
There are suggestions for the AGM-142 Popeye and the SPICE bombs for it, hopefully they add this for it so it’s more properly on par with the F-15E in ground battles. Unless people complain about it getting them lol
@@commandervocal3848 yeah, the issue is that gaijin is going to have to decide to model them, which won't happen in time for release
@@C8-H8 yeah, I think if it does happen they wouldn’t get added until the December update, but considering it’s a minor nation with a pretty small player count, it likely won’t get added for some time
So pleased with this decision!
So is the F15E just going to be better at this point, still getting the Aim120b and better A2G weaponry
I guess US mains complained loud enough shame redside is cooked once again this update
Yeah i will admit I wish the russians had some more modern stuff. I would love to see a Foxhound and how that would work in game, and honestly I with we got a su27sm2 instead of the base sm with the crappy radar.
@@bt_the_yank6234the sm radar is completely modeled wrong it’s suppose to be a way better radar but no sinse Russian main don’t cry we don’t get anything good
So the reason it didn't have them is because they wanted the C to be the top adf in u.s for diversity, so logically the C would get engines it NEVER had.
@@LitdabLitdabThe f15E radar is supposed to be one of the best non AESA/PESA radar made, but its literally an exact copy of the one from the f15C.
@@bt_the_yank6234 Not modern, they should fix existing. Su-27 and mig-29 with fixed fm, r-77 with correct drag modelling, r-73 without wobbling and with correct irccm would be more than enough
and the russians dont get normal flight models or accurate engines and not even accurate radars :(
As a US main I feel bad for yall…
but russia get pantsir with unplayable cas and they win 80% of ground rb, its even more broken than anything else
Doesn't the normal MiG-29 have a thrust to weight of like 2.5 at some point in flight? That's ridiculous
@@dutch24no lol. Playing the mig28 you'd very much feel that much thrust. In terms of power it feels like a undercooked F15A. Outright worse than the F15A, but equal to slightly better to F15Cs
@@dutch24no thats insane
Where is the real thrust of Mig 29SMT RD-33 Series 3 then? In war thunder the Dry Thrust is 3920 kgf and Afterburner is 6820 kgf. The real life one is Dry Thrust 5037 kgf and Afterburner is 8300.
Thanks for all you’re info
F-15I should get Mavericks
Я бы предпочел derby
@@yoptamafakayou called?
I love how viggen consistently getting nerfed instead of making it realistically fast on the deck viggen is capable to reach mach 1.3 at sea level a.k.a faster than a mig29 in the longer terms
Great Video
The snail has its favorites and the USSR is definitely not one of them anymore
They just care who’s brings the $$$
They have their favorite wallets for sur !
Mhm. Put M1A1 SEP V2 vs T90M :) i mean american jets seem to be better but u cant tell it about tanks. I mean abrams is cool but lets be honest. Russian tanks are much better
At this point, they're officially ignoring the su-27's and mig-29's flight models
Community: gaijin fix mig-29 and su27 fm
Gaijin:🧑🦯💨
There’s nothing to fix buddy
@@Optimusprime56241 Ok US main
@@sooryan_1018 cope
@@Optimusprime56241 You again XD
@@Optimusprime56241 Pov: smartest U.S main (he's blind and needs his hand held)
Put them both at 14.0 and call it a day
I don't know how to feel about this one. The US Mains have been whining so damn hard lately. Oh no, the Grom 1 is so good, the F15E doesn't get any. Oh no, the F117 can be locked by a PESA radar from a modern SPAA, oh no the engine of the F15E is worse... It's just insane. There is now zero reason to grind Israel. The F15E was already a much better Multirole than the Su34 but now it's basically an F18 Hornet which performs just as well in Air to air as in Air to ground. There are no tradeoffs bringing that thing in GRB, none. I do have the US Air tree maxed out myself and I think that this was an L from Gaijins part for overall balance
Su 34 deserves R77-1 IMO. I was opposed to gaijin not adding the American equivalent if the Israeli variant was coming in the same patch because F15E's did get upgraded to have it and gaijin would have been essentially adding two different generations of the plane the late 80s original vs the upgraded one in the 90s which we also exported. Why make the US one worse when you can just add the equivalent upgrade to it? But No I do agree at least for air russia needs some extra upgrades as well like better engines on the SU27SM and 29SMT, and just flight model reworks overall
“There is now zero reason to grind Israel” brother it starts at rank 5 or 6 skipping a decent chunk of the grind, and gets a butt ton of US munitions and vehicles. 8/10 nations get US vehicles and missiles/munitions, doesn’t that make US completely useless to grind?
Cry
“USA mains cry” *starts to cry*
More like you are whining because you cannot drop a cruise missile from 100kms+ away, Grom 2 is just as good for such tiny WT maps anyway. Also nobodys complaining about a PESA detecting F-117 since PESA radars are not even in F-117s BR range
I mean tbh if they were trying to make f15c the adf they needed to give it the engines that it never had. It only makes sense.
This is solved by the fact that they simply had to introduce the early 86 version of the evidence, with old engines, without HMD. And then they would add the late one with new engines with HMD and a full weapons package. And not the 2004 version right away.
@@seniorilay8291 i completely agree with this sad american mains cry too much
Would be cool if it were an upgrade on both f15 to get the new engines like the 2s6 has for its radar and missiles
Whith the F-15E engines I would take the F-15E as a main because your turn is only off by 1.0s in game but way more power.
*Cue the angry Isreali players yapping about AGM's*
What a happy news to hear. Now, make Abrams armour better ;)
Now its perfect.
Well now they need to give the F-15i ra'am the AGM-65D mavericks no?
Love ya matt🙌🏾
I feel like In War Thunder, equipping Israel’s F-15I with indigenous Spice bombs instead of the standard U.S. GBU series would bring greater authenticity and gameplay diversity, reflecting Israel’s real-world military capabilities Like the Spice bomb 1000 glide bomb and the Spice 2000 JDAM
While stuff like this is nice, it's not important and is unnecessary dev time that would be wasted when it could be used to make the game better, granted Gaijin does nothing but waste time and make the game worse; so it doesn't really matter. But the fact that Israel itself is it's own tree is already really stupid though.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 gaijin gave way too much ke protection to the merkavas anyway, these were made with the sole purpose of killing civilians and hamas terrorists and taking one or two rpg 7 shot before retreating, even in the news you can see that anything with more penetrative power than the rpg7 just phase through the armor and destroys them
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 I disagree, except with Gaijin wasting time. Lol
Taiwan should also be its own tech tree in my opinion.
@@foxy-48514 the merkava would have enough to armour to stop dm53 in game lol
I don't understand why they don't give Israel it's popeye missiles. I'm sure someone is going to tell me they're way to powerful. Brimstones are a good example of something that should be good turned into another vanilla GBU that's already in game.
Double standards.Where is the AL-31F-1M on the Su-27SM
like russian bias doesnt exist
@@briocheman21 exactly
Do you mean the Russian engine that was made in 2007 should be introduced because an American engine from 1986 is in the game? 21 years of rocket science between them? That's a double standard, but in the opposite direction that you think it is.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator the real life chronology doesnt matter. if gaijin balanced the game by this, it would be terrible. the j7e would fight f22s but yeah russian bias
@@CyberneticArgumentCreatorwell, I hope you do know that first - first PW-229 was installed on the F-15E in 1991 for just testing, second - they finished modifying F-15E’s only in 2007 (I mean engine modification) and 3rd - a lot of F-15E’s have never got those PW-229 engines. Also the F-15E in game is a version from at least 2004 cause it has HMD (same goes for F-15C btw)
If you guys think that the F-15E with his new engines is Nutz, you can expect the same from the same from the Typhoon, and even more from the Rafale.
Both Typhoon and Rafale have a sick acceleration.
But especially the Rafale with his 1:10 T/W ratio that allow him to be able to exceed Mach 1 full vertically.
Both the Typhoon and Rafale are nutz.
Now i understand why they said: "the Typhoon is such a platform to take into account"
Not only is fast, but also turn as hell.
I agree with what you say but just wanted to correct one small thing the rafale has a thrust to weight of 0.98
eurofighter has a higher thrust to weight than the rafale, actually. rafale isnt even mach 2 capable according to most sources and its thrust to weight is around 0.98 whereas eurofighter is 1.15.
Wait for it getting nerfed to the ground when added to the game just because it isn’t in the US TT
and all of these don't even come close to the 1.30 TTW ratio fo the Su-35 also the F-15E has near 1.30 something like 1.28 if i remember correctly.
@@Rek1emMScar EF has a better TTW than the SU-35. Not hard to do a little research.
US mains tears have worked !
@@maxmax-lo7pj they don't want to lose that sweet u s main cash lmao
Idk man, sounds like you're the ones crying about it getting buffed.
@@4tbf616US mains cried so hard they removed the Groms, stop pretending Gaijin doesn't handhold the US and Russia
Now all we need is the abrams to be fixed 😭
Per the snail they only weren't giving it the engines bc they wanted the f15c to be the top adf. If they wanted that they should give the c the engines it NEVER had. It only makes sense that the E gets the engines it had.
Is there any difference between the aim-120a and aim-120b that the f-15e carries?
Awesome, now we can remove the afterburner from the Su-27 to make sure that russia still isnt OP!
When USA mains want something Gaijin add it, when they cry for some new russian armament Gaijin remove it. Before with R73 and now with Grom-1
@@alessandro_pelliccione6674 people actually cried about the grom-1? Lmfao 😭
@@howtobenormal5497the grom 1 is literally a worse pgm 500 with longer range
did you want r73s to go against aim 9ls. no one did, that would not fun for both sides.
@@XxCarrt3rxX I want remember you when F14 got added. USA with 4th gen aircraft and ARH missiles against russian 3rd gen Mig23 with only shit Fox1 compared to Phoenix.
I dont get this and that so what? Everybody does. How do you like them Pythons 4 and AIM 120 c5. You will get everything when they introduce counterparts stop saying nonsense 😂
YES YES YES
Once again russian aircraft get nerfed before launch and american ones get buffed. Such russian bias.
People only say russian bias for ground. No one actually complains about russian air bias
@@ironpizza5150did you forget that the Russians had the r 27 er for like an entire year with no equal
@@sumchipstarchy5469 I'm aware. But I haven't seen anyone complain about Russian air being op since fox 3s were added.
@@sumchipstarchy5469 Did you forget why 27ER came to the game ? I will gladly refresh your selective memory , AIM-7F carriers were absolutely trashing R-24R carriers in BVR since December 2021 , F-14 was absolutely trashing everything uncontested both in BVR and WVR since June 2022 , the only FOX-3 carrier in the game for full 2yrs .... then R-27ER comes to the game in December 2022 to at least give the BVR advantage to the red side , WVR still remained in the hands of blue side with the F-16, not like before where blue side had everything yet you sit here acting as if R-27ER came out of the sky to reinforce a fictious red side dominance ... Did you forget my clownfish , there you go !
And till today Germany still doesnt have the assta 3 for JDAM
As a person with top tier usa, Russia, Sweden, and France this update is gonna be fu
The thrust to weight ratio is still lower in the F-15e than the F-15c no?
Actually it is higher if both are clean and have same fuel amount
Reds gonna cry as hell. Good.
now the f15I has its CAS completely reduced and again the US has the best plane... like aways
Choo choo train
Nice vid
I was actually ok with the old engines to encourage the F-15C to still be played. Still appreciated though since Israel got them so we should too
Let’s fucking go, they listened
Thanks Gaijin, as a reward I will boost RP and buy SL and GE to the grind, have ur money
Edit: Mat I’m sorry for the stuff I’ve said in the past, ur vids kinda just make me happy now since it’s good news and stuff. Seriously tho, u might wanna get some sleep, take a break if u need it, take care
man i just got rank 8 Israel for nothing 😭
yep same lmao
the f15i will still be good its the same is the E but without maverichs which do you really need?
you grinded it for nothing because they removed it or something? This doesn't affect Israel, they fight on the same team 9/10 matches anyway
You still get +120 countermeasure, don’t worry.
And… You might get Python 4 missile someday.
@@dontknow-bg3wyActually its better.
F-15I has 360 countermeasure while F-15E has 240, so it gonne be better choice for ARB users.
ok now give the f15i mavericks
I wanted it to get the engines I DONT EVEN PLAY TOPTIER tho
wow, Gaijin listening to feedback for once, incredible!
ofc usa glazers have to get best staff
GIVE US THE SU27 AND THE MIG29 REAL ENGINES AND FLIGHT MODELS
bruhhh i bought the kfir just to grind israel for the f15i
And Tornado GR1 still got the wrong engines
its very good news
Alright and the feedback about number of players in top tier? And the feedback about flankers and mig29s flight model? And the feedback about j10 and jf17 hud? Oh yeah i just remembered, gaijin only cares about USA...
Oh of course thats why usa grb is sooo good
@@jaydinweidenbach3292 usa grb needs a buff and russian arb needs a buff, they are two separate issues bud
Not fair They have good engine good rwr missile but we ussr doesn't have anything like that 😡😡😡at least we need R-77-1
dont worry with the next update the rwrs will be mostly unusable in ground and hard to use in air
Actually 77-1 could be last ARH for russia since there is no infos about 77M, Gaijin could delay more and more to add with other new ARHs.
There is really nothing unlike AIM-120 variants.
77M development stoped never in service, 77-1 is counterpart to 120c5 so...
@@cec21025 my friend? Where do you read this nonsense ? Su57 using R77M with 193km range . Stop with this nonsense bs
@@cec21025 i think you confused the R-77-1 and the R-77M1 the M1 is still in its prototype phase and maybe cancelled as its status is unknown
Yes Finally!
Israel just cant be biased
Great to see they actually listened
ofc the Su-27SM doesn't get the stronger engines it has but the usraelis do... strange usraeli bias
Rip anyone that wasted their time grinding the F-15C
WHOOOO!! (I only care about the F-14 please Gaijin do something)
Do you enjoy the F-14s current BR? I feel it’s not a very special plane especially the F-14B fighting full loaded FOX-3 slingers while having sparrows.
@@TheInvisibleOrange26 The F-14B is in a horrible spot especially since the AIM-54C is just a worse A right now
gaijin has the tenancy to keep nerfed the us .. what ever they put in..
in other trees they manage to make them better.
amazing how..
bro please take a break 🙏 you have not stopped uploading since the dev server went live
Perfect now they just need to not touch the rwr's and to make brimstones tv guided to make more sens
Too much for you guys, dont you feel that this is unfair for other nations?
@fubuixmas the rwr or engines ? Cause technically speaking beside being a pain in the ass for ground players the f-15E is gonna be a glorified f-16c with more armaments and speed in air it's a heavy bastard prone to getting amrammed
Rwr nerfs are unessecary at all ahistorical and a blatant nato sided nerf that really doesn't need to be made
And the brimstone ? I agree about it being too op for the game by targeting itself but Lazer guided ??? That just makes it a worse Grom 1 give it tv guidance or gps at least
@leotsering rwr nerf is to make nato shit lessop cuz redside cant play normally with this 120 spam
@@fubuixmas still doesn't make sens red side can deal with amramms as much as blue side even ruskies can
@@leotsering what are ruskies?
russia needs r77-1 to be able to rival Aim 120s
yeah. The r77 does have the better close in turning but the thing is the flankers can carry so many of them now. Just have to adjust the play style.
@@bt_the_yank6234 y’all acting like F-15 doesn’t carry 8 AIM-120s
R77-1 will come when aim120c-5 comes because they perform similarly
No, they need to fix r-77, not add another missile from the future for it to be either crippled or op...
Nope, just need proper FM for the R-77 instead of the blatant joke we have right now . Gaijin managed to make R-77 inferiof to AIM-120A/B despite R-77 being vastly superior to those variants IRL 🤦
can someone put a link for Smins post? I can't find it on the forum
FINALLY!!!!!
I still wait for abrams front armor buff xDD
Never, gaijin hates any ground nation that's not germany or russia
nice now pls fix m60 120s so i can spade it
Very informative video💯👍
I spent so much money grinding Israel for the raam and now they are adding the same thing to US😭😭 I already have US done
This is EXACTLY why Gaijin did this in the first place.
You got gaijined, you just step in the trap
@@IRLFlightSim yeah I grinded out the nesher and the shahawk when the discounts were around. Oh well.
This is what fomo does
At least you’ll have the very good looking f-16d lol
So it will have different sounds right orrr????
It's a holo victory, as a us main I'm happy but at what cost. We whined and moaned to daddy to give us what we want and then complain when someone else has something we don't like regardless if it's realistic or not. Even if we didn't get the engines honestly it's fine because America has one of if not the best air trees in the game, but yea Russian bias or something with their crappy flight models that people complain about but it never gets fixed
Su34 nerfed
F15 buffed
😂
Are you surprised?
Because the Su34 was just better than the F-15E in every way in the air to ground role.
Do Russian players just forget they have the best CAS in the game?
true bcs russian jets just garbage in real life
@@-..----.--.-... not really happens every time
@@kousand9917 i don't care the f15 got buffed, I care because they nerf other planes after/before doing so
when will they get rid of the gymped ussr planes?
awsome
And I guess they will give the Israeli mavericks, RIGHT????
No! IDF didn't use Mav's on their F-16's/15's. Simple as.
Great the most stupidly OP new jet gets even more OP. Meanwhile Su-34 has no thermals and no Grom-1 and Brimstones are absolutely trash.
also the max payload is 16T but ingayjine it's only a shit 8T while having the same max weight...
and the Su-27SM ofc should have better FM, but also radar, fox3(R-77-1), better engine(12500KGF+)
MiG-29 should get better FM and MiG-29SMT much better FM, bc it's worse than the f4fice
also the prem viggen should be 13,7 in arb being a better toptier than German's highest plane
su-34 literally still have the best air to ground weaponry in the entire game, you people whine so much for having the literal best tech gaijin has added
KH-38s get thermals
@@yuanfurbax f4f KWS is moving to 13.0 In case you didn't know , also there's no way the prem viggen is better than the F4, better fm maybe , but no HMD , bad radar , bad rwr as well as no irccm missiles. No way it's even on the same level as jf-17
Su-34 has thermals, and why tf do you need a cruise missile with 100km ranges?
Finally
I’ve been so excited for the Strike Eagle
Now the F15I is worse but Gajin doesn't care about Israel mains
Wdym? They gave their top tier tanks 5 seconds reloads lol.
Still has more countermeasures. Also wild to say they don't care about Israel. They're still getting the best plane for air rb and that hasn't changed.
@@Rageaben same as the Abram, but Abram has actual armor. Your point?
😂@@Rageaben
@@ironpizza5150 best plane for air rb, but how about ground rb you get no mavericks on any plane exept a phantom.
Still cant fix ground for USA
Great now were gonna have 2 stratosphere fighter jets going so fast that no one could kill em.Good luck spotting these in a game
Cant wait to face these things in my f4f ice.......
@@martinwellhoefer9159 I rly hope germans get f18c+ in next update... And not just some nerfed variant, but with good fm and weapons.
I main US and my friend is german main, i just can't look at him suffering even more.
Nothing to rejoice about lol it shouldve already had tht engine no reason to have 220 in it other than to artifically nerf it. Hell if they didnt want it to take the C spot then just have the cft perma stuck to the E they very rarely fly without cft on
i thought you had like 2m subs but you have 42k bro you deserve more
mat you seriously need to sleep, it isnt healthy to post 20 videos every day
he posted 4 videos in 24 hours. and they are barely above 6-7 minutes.
Love you
And what is with sweden. They have nothing eben close to this. And dont even Talk about 10.0-12.0. The aj/ajs 37 Are one of the worst CAS Planes.
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