Arrested for a Meme - Harry Miller
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Harry Miller is a former police officer and CEO of the Bad Law Project and Fair Cop, organisations that aim to depoliticise democratic institutions, and support those facing discrimination for their political beliefs. Miller appeared on TRIGGERnometry in January 2020 after he was investigated by police over a poem that he'd posted on Twitter. The police officer told Miller, "I need to check your thinking."
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This is why police-Y enforcers are a bad thing. They will follow their orders no matter what the order or how wrong it is. Same problem here in America.
ACAB
It's like I've said hate is a pure form of resistance and hate should not be infringed if your hate isn't infringing on anyone else.
@@jeffk464 the trans trend is being pushed by governments and backed by corporatism and corporate money. Eliminate gov and these types of agendas cannot be pushed in such a mass hysterical manner.
That's why I'm anti state.
When is the Bill Burr interview going to be launched??????
VOLUME is your friend 😊
I’m with Konstantin I would rather have people being grossly offensive than the police being able to arrest people for being offensive
It's 1984 like people telling on their neighbours going through past tweets
100000000000% - I always say I want people to be able to express everything they want to as I always want to know the assholes in the room in order to avoid them (or maybe join them:))
By that logic men will get away with too much and we'd have to sit and take it
@@roleat the irony is that women actually are more violent when it comes to emotional manipulation and reputation destruction
Why do we have to chose. It's culture that dictates how the avarage person behaves and the law that curbs those outside the norms. That's how it should be anyway in broad terms. We don't have to accept people being rude culturally but that doesn't mean it's any of the polices business.
Meanwhile 50 teenagers can raid and loot a McDonald's in Nottingham and not one single arrest
Yes, no surprises there, as the police made an announcement that they would ignore shoplifting.
The police are too busy chasing up non-crime and pseudo-crime and fake-crime, that's why.
@@dirkvanschalkwyk1919 Quite so. In my Kent town if the amount of goods stolen does not exceed £100, no further action. However, in the situation that you describe, a riot was in progress, as was the case in the centre of London last week.
Is it obvious enough yet?
"They were just hungry"
"You are being arrested under Section 127 because you have caused anxiety."
It sounds to me like a line from a Monty Python sketch.
That might be a good to response to the police !
Reality surpasses fiction yet again... Scary times!
If people could be arrested for causing anxiety then everyone complicit in the lockdowns and vaccine mandates would be going away for a long time.
"Anxiety" is a medical condition. Who can verify it except a doctor.
@@helenn6061 That's very clever.
I resigned from the police two weeks ago! I can tell you tales of horror of what is going on in this rotten organisation. I beg of you Triggernomerty guys, Francis, Konstantin - if you are reading this please get in touch with me. I have a story to tell, the taxpayers deserve to know the truth!
i know exactly what you're talking about.
It seems the only qualifications needed to be a modern police officer these days are psychopathy and malignant narcissism. Well done for not making the grade.
I hope they will contact you .
You're talking absolute bollocks
@@2icelollys1goat Ok . Let's hear your evidence .
I watched alll of this and had no idea how far the BRITISH POLICE have fallen not just sad but highly distressing
UK police are SO BENT you would never believe how corrupt liar's they ALL ARE, I know how they treated my family and what we all went through based on the lies they had concocted and when we eventually wound up in court it was thrown out because they lied, no apologies nothing, the distress and anxiety this caused eventually led to my Father's death.
I have no faith in the police and if I saw one in trouble I would happily walk away 😊
fallen? They haven't fallen they were NEVER any higher
Not gonna lie, it's wound me right up lol.
I have known for a long time, and if you knew what I know you would not only be disressed but astonished. The Met are the worst offenders, but corruption is found in all forces. Google Daniel Morgan on your search engine, there is good reason to believe he was murdered on the instructions of the Met, but that is only one example out of many..
The swastika was NOT invented by Hitler Its 3,000 + years old
the Buddhists used them THEM? And The Hindu yes there are 2 left sinister right light
you require both for balance.
Why do not the defence do some historical research its the same with Islam SUBMIT in Arabic no ones looks in the Koran/hadiths .
Making a complaint to the police:
I‘m a 14yo girl and I’ve been gang raped “yawn”
I’m a man whose been caused anxiety by a meme 7 police officers, 3 police vehicles and 2 arrests
Oh, but its different. Pakistani muslim men are just doing their job and following their ' natural ' instincts. They are oppressed, under privileged brown people while you are a white girl who has privilege. In fact, that is not rape, that is cultural enrichment! So, suck it up girl!
Honestly! I am sick of the police and the woke mob.
Unfortunately for vulnerable 14 yo girls in the UK - this is not a joke. Grooming gangs love the British police.
@@tensaijuusan4653 *White girls. If these girls were non-white every government agencies would be involved and it would get endless media coverage.
@@cupcake8867 Or if the groomers had been "White".
@@tensaijuusan4653 Yes, that would get the ultimate coverage.
Harry is a top man. Probably the last generation of what you'd call a proper copper.
Agreed - A real salt-of-the-earth Lincolnshire bloke. I wonder how many are left?
Let's just hope he is the guy, who can counter all this political ideology, getting shoved into the police force.
@@ThePhobos100 Nah, the woke drones are still being churned out in the universities at this very moment. They're not going to give up just like that.
@@jerribee1 Nor is the government going to do anything about it.
So true and many former police officers are aghast at what is going on.
IF ONLY HARRY WAS IN CHARGE OF OUR POLICE WE'D HAVE A PROPER COUNTRY WITH COMMON SENSE.
he's doing the job of the home secretary imho
That’s what I like about him. I love common sense policing.
Another staggering step toward a police state! Eternal vigilance is the price of democracy. UK Awaken!
"This is fascism wrapped up in a rainbow" absolutely
This guy is spot on about the dead eyed adherents to the woke religion. My daughter recently graduated from college and from her descriptions, most of her class was the same. She said there was no reasoning with these formerly gifted young ppl. A cult to say the least!
Thats why I took my kids out of state education at 8 years old. They go to a trade school funded by business. And parent led. An independant education with the emphasis on pure learning not woke. We don't have the problems about identity. And our kids have far better mental health. No anxiety and depression.
I think these schools will be the future.
And, in the case of 'Trans', an industry. There is huge profit to be made mutilating children surgically and poisoning them with wrong-sex hormones for the rest of their lives.
It's a cult and a form of mass psychological neurosis. It's disconcerting how deeply and unquestioningly they believe all this woke BS. Oddly I was the super PC one among liberals prior to 2014 or so. I used to get offended easily and would correct others for things the "shouldn't" be saying because it's oppressive or mean. But I realized I was being uptight and humorloess and have become more laid back about un-PC things. However, this is when people started to become much more PC and woke.
@@lasttango7522 that’s interesting - which country?
Yeh you could say the anti woke mob were also a cult, both woke and anti woke are extremes most people are moderate and all the nonsense passes them by unless they are subscribed to channels which benefit from the culture wars
The rainbow flag is absolutely aesthetically hideous without even discussing the evil ideology behind it. And I say this as a homosexual.
The flag is naff I agree but evil ideology oh come on you’re listening to reactionary right wingers who’ll come for the gays when they’re done with the Trans
And I agree as another homosexual.
Same sex attracted people are fighting back against the forced teaming of LGB with TQI+
LGB=who you love
TQI+=your "gender identity"if you have one (I don't)
Follow the money 💰 There's huge and growing money to be made by medicalising gender dysphoria,therapies, surgeries,medicines and the lot
@@sarahsue42 it’s nonsense,the right wing media have amplified fringe voices that do not speak for the majority of Trans people they focus on tik tok nutters and militant activists and try to con the world into believing that nonsense, it’s divide and conquer- and its working . For most people none of this guff impacts their lives and now people feel emboldened to attack the whole ‘community’ so don’t think for a second that this ends well for gay people, instead of blaming the Trans blame the right wing knuckle draggers who know exactly what they are doing
@@sarahsue42
LGB=want acceptance for who they are
TQI+=want acceptance for who they are not.
Rainbow flag is fine, and it means everyone is accepted. The Progressive Fascism flag is another thing entirely, it's as specific as possible to let everyone know they want to exclude.
I'm gay and I reject and despise the rainbow flag, for the same reasons he mentioned
The gay rainbow is cultural appropriation of the Judeo-Christian symbol of hope as promised by God to Noah. I'm triggered, and literally shaking.
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yep, and I'm so pissed off about it. I once loved that we had the rainbow.
Rainbow Fascism.
And it is people such as yourself who give me some sort of hope for the future, and I wonder if you are victimized for your thoughts on this matter. Thank you and all the best
I find immense golden domes and minarets GROSSLY OFFENSIVE in our little rural towns. I'm offended deeply
If I’m being honest I’m not sure which one is the bigger threat to your country, the lgbt’s or the foreigners. I wish you guys the best but it looks like drastic action is needed to change the direction your heading in.
@@isanynameavailable6both are a threat
Report them. Start reporting everything as offensive and causing distress. Report the turd in the river. Report the plastic packaging on your fruit. Report it all. Report adverts for flea stuff for dogs that kills fish in the rivers cos it causes you anxiety. Report the loss of the commons. Report everything.
@@isanynameavailable6whats the biggest threats is the foreigners. But not the refugees. The big foreign companies buying up care homes buying up land and assets and using cayman island banka accounts to sucks the peasants dry. The monopoly companies that have shut down every English man's small shop and livelihood. Nike shoes. Foreign companies using kids in factories dumping pollution in. The water selling us breaking plastic shíte. Putting everyone out of business who isn't in the globalist kabal. The brown people they are shoving into every ghetto are the scapegoats. So you don't see who really is buying up everything put from under you. And Stát distracted by frivolous things like skin colour and setual orientation . You try speaking the truth about what the companies are doing..try finding out who owns the land in england... you can't afford to. They are the hidden threat. The refugees are just people some of whom are scumbags like we have here who are the low scum people of their own countries..just like if you dumped a load of english scumbags into another country. Nobody would be happy about it. But what is it distracting you from. Much bigger fish to fry.
Silent British majority let's get supporting The Bad Law Project and Fair Cop
Harry Miller is a stone cold legend. Heed his words. ✌️
Old school. The British police force used to be the envy of the world, now it's a bad joke.
Dead set. He's at top of my list of people I'd kill to have a pint with the next time I'm in England. Courage for days.
It's become imperative to know our rights and laws when the police don't know them. Shocking indeed!!
As far as they are concerned we don’t have any……….
Oftimes, they ignore your expressing them at the point of contact, regardless of your demeanor. That's the problem.
In the States, it's the public officials charged with executing laws that don't have to know the law. A citizen breaks the law? Ignorance is no excuse! A public official who swears an oath to the law? Well, _they_ certainly can't be expected to know the law; they get 'qualified immunity.'
Lots of money spent on diversity training. Not so much for actual comprehension of their jobs.
@@boobah5643 Diversity my ass. Another scam for money and highway robbery. You need training and we're just the people who can do it. Sign here for the course if you want to keep your job.
It doesn’t matter what the law is. Rights are not granted by laws. The police violated his rights, even if the law supported them. (Not saying that the law did support them, but it doesn’t matter).
important things to the police, dancing at pride, arresting people for sharing a meme and kneeling for BLM. things that are not important, grooming gangs, break ins, getting your bike/car stolen.
The fact that grooming gangs are not getting their due attention is still absolutely mind blowing, but sadly not surprising
@@graceseeley5354 reverse the race and it would be Labour n1 concern
The biggest grooming gang is government.
@@graceseeley5354 in the UK and in the US mass pedophile rings have been busted up. A lot in the last 5 years. Too bad they won't go after government no one grooms kids more than them.
@@songsthatarecatchyI not the biggest, but tories like . Imran Ahmad Khan do take part in it
I live in the Humberside police area.
My neighbour was away on holiday.
A scumbag opened the kitchen window and was going thru the house collecting a stash.
I phoned the police.. Gave them all the info ... 'Sorry there is no one available' was the response.
I gathered some neighbours to help the scumbag out of the house. We secured the house, the home owner cut his holiday short and was on his way back, A neighbour (e para) took the scumbag away for an education since the police weren't interested.
The police arrived 6 weeks later to investigate
We are going to have to do this again and again, we have no effective police force anymore.
I heard a similar story about an old pensioner who saw a thief rummaging around late at night in his shed in his back garden. He called the police and they said they were too busy to attend. He said, "Right, not to worry, I have a shotgun. I'll take care of it myself." Moments later, they arrived, expecting to arrest him. His response was a classic, "I thought you were busy?"
@e-curb jesus Christ! that is horrific. My friend reported what sounded like a rape happening to her upstairs neighbour the police came and my friend was super upset she has mental health issues so what did they do.. talked to the rapist who said nothing going on here. The wife said no nó everything fine .they took my friend away to the mad house. She was there for a week they let her go she went home kept her mouth shut etc. Went to work minded he rbussiness. Scared of retaliation but months went by nothing happened... she was healing from the trauma... the man out her window in the other night and they finally arrested him she is so shook up by it. I got verbally attacked by a man who's dog was loose and coming after my dog ...I barked at him and he left me alone thinking i am mad. But i live alone as a woman and its scary. When my child was missing the Gardaí wouldn't even just drive around and keep an eye out for him. Such arse holes and irresponsible people seem to become in power. Power and no responsibility and everyone else has to take the repsonsibility with zero power. Im in ireland by the way.
I interact with the police day and daily in my role as a psychiatrist… they are modern day enhanced social workers. With limited intellectual ability.
Npc's
Harry miller, what a fantastic guy, if only all our police held his high standards and morals
And knowledge of the Law!
Thats the problem,.our police now have no high standards or morals...down down down we go...😭
That's what he's saying now that he's gotten in trouble. How much "empathy" would you have gotten from him when he was on the force?
@@venga3but he’s not in trouble, that’s the whole point
Any police officer who believes he does not have to issue a caution when arresting someone should be in jail.
Harry isn't joking when he talks of genocide. The first step is 'othering'. Us vs them.
Hence the massive push for division among left/right, men/women, old/young ect, ect.
Happened in Rwanda. Not that long ago.
No, it’s overwhelmingly an attack on white people. The ideology almost exclusively exists to other white people.
when really what they are going to get is the population vs the police
My son got jumped by 4 lads. There were witnesses, we knew who the lads were but the police refused to come out and investigate. When I asked why I was told, quote “well he’s not being attacked right now is he”
Stuff like that would make me angry beyond belief.
You should have told them he was gender fluid but at the time of the attack he identified as female. You would have had 3 precincts worth of cops at your door along with the every available helicopter and the drone squad, not to mention every available news reporter at your house minutes after you called it in. Remember when they bitched because only rich people got good service from law enforcement? Now it's because you are part of a "group".
What the hell 😯 I wonder if they would have the same reaction if it was a member of their Family
"a communist system can be recognized by its tendency to spare criminals while criminalizing political opponents" Alexander Solschenizyn
Wow
I'm a gay man and have the EXACT reaction to the rainbow/intersectional flag. I hate the damn thing.
Me too - doesn't it feel like flying the Rainbow Flag, and not the intersectional flag, is akin to flying the confederate flag now?
And what about what it looks like now??? It’s an absolute design horror.
LGBs are fine with me. They wish nobody any harm.
As a former Police Officer the reason this nonsense is happening is because any member of the public can make an allegation and the police are forced to record / report it due to Home Office rules, no matter how stupid it is. Once a report has been made it needs be closed or some sort of outcome is needed. Due to ass covering and a general blame culture within the police very few in management will make a decision that some things are either not crimes or not in the public interest to pursue. This leads to the youngest and most inexperienced officers being given these types of cases to ‘investigate’. They often use Community Resolutions to close crime reports as it’s the quickest and easiest way for them to get rid of these nonsense cases. As Harry said they don’t allow officers to use their common sense, officers are bullied with fear of criticism from making their own decisions. Meanwhile real crime isn’t being investigated properly at all.
They say money is the source of evil. They never met bureaucracy.
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The interviewee is inspirational but we also need people like you to spread the word on what's happening. A lot of people have read your comment.
What if everyone started doing this all at once? They wouldn't have enough officers to respond, they'd have to triage calls, and maybe the person calling because their car was stolen would get more attention than the 5,000 people calling to whinge about being "offended" online? If so, maybe it could help to set a precedent. . .
Thanks for this. Really helpful.
In Norway and Brazil also, people are also being arrested and prosecuted for imprisonable offences for saying on social media that males are not women. Coming soon to a country near you.
Well here we go men are not women and the British police can go screw themselves.
no speech is violence except its very very loud
This is why you need a First Amendment as we have in America. It doesn’t prevent all abuses but it sure does help.
@@januarysson5633 Don't let that give you a false sense of security. The 1st A does protect people from government persecution because of what they say, but there are so many ways this can go wrong if authoritarianism gains enough power (from either side of the political divide). You can't make saying 'males can never be women' an imprisonable offense here in the US, but you can have judges that decide hefty civil penalties when the 'injured' parties sue, even against future earnings. There are lots of ways the courts can decide to support only certain ideas being considered acceptable. Activist courts are a problem here in the US, again, both from the left and right.
@@goodwork887 Activist courts making decisions that fly in the face of the Constitution are a problem but with a 1A it’s much easier to call those violations out. Where there is no 1A there is not even a legal violation.
It’s just jaw-dropping that British citizens can be arrested for posting a meme. People too fragile to handle freedom shouldn’t go to online forums.
fragile?? you gotta be kidding, you dont get the slightest idea what this is about? its a projection of power , they got you by the ballz kneeling and sucking their dix
Laws based on “hurt feelings” it’s utterly ridiculous.
I agree about the police NOT wearing the poppy. No poppies, no logos, no flags. JUST POLICE WORK.
I have just retired from the police after 30 years. I have spent two thirds of that time as a detective. In the last 10 to 15 years I have witnessed the degradation of basic law and procedure knowledge of newly recruited Police officer on the beat.
The reasons in my view are many, but primarily the training and supervision standards are shockingly bad now. How are you expected to uphold the law when it’s increasingly evident officers and immediate supervisors don’t know it?
Police officers seem to have also lost the ability to talk to the public they serve, which I always thought was our bread and butter.
Some crime you can’t solve or find an offender for immediately, but if you speak to the victim of say a burglary, and at least show you care and are trying this goes a long way I found. How long does that take out of your day? 5 minutes?
When I started we were also told our biggest power was discretion, as long as it was justified and your logic was sound and recorded..
Common sense?
Unfortunately, this view is considered archaic now and people like me from the same era are dinosaurs.
It’s a massive shame the police service has come to this and personally I’m glad I’m not part of it anymore which I thought I’d never say.
My brother is the same. Loved the job when he started but by the time his retirement approached he was gagging for the end. All the good cops have retired or left in disgust. And we've got all these sneery, bully boy lemmings wearing police uniforms now.
Such a good point about public interaction! Something as simple as sitting down and talking with an elderly victim of burglary. . . that can help reassure the victim, even when there's no chance of recovering the stolen items. It doesn't even take as much time as going to Harry's house and threatening him over a meme.
I've worked alongside many different police officers, back when I was doing post-disaster recovery work; and like you, so many of the best ones have been retiring. But there are more and more of the dead-eyed ones like the ones who harassed Harry.
This is disheartening. Its the same india too
@@jakespeakz Wow it's in India too , that does surprise me , sorry to hear that .
its worldwide... but the cause of it sounds accurate..
My Jaw dropped after 2 minutes
And stayed that way for all of this
We are fucked
No we are not. We are made to believe that by the bloody radicals. Why does the majority feel the minority has the upper hand? Because as discussed here its about power.
Don't allow these hucksters to grind you down. Most Brits are decent people. We need to restore confidence in ourselves.
What are these idealogues going to do. We are in every home. They can't arrest us all. Time we said enough.
Same!
Yep!
This is made so much worse from this being done in a socialisy country. Socialism is just communism lite. I hope America can dodge it but it is not looking good. At least the citizens here are armed and the police have some degree of fear and respect for that reason.
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This is exactly why we study history as though it’s us… because it is. Ideology becomes fascism real fast. Harry once again clearly articulates this.
That may be why history is not being taught in many schools now, except as an "us versus them" lesson about how everyone is either oppressed or oppressor.
@@absue great point
This is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD, what an EMBARRASSMENT TO YOUR COUNTRY!!!
Who gets to decide what’s offensive?
The NPCs and Psychopaths aparently
Brilliant interview. Harry is an absolute legend, I'm so relieved we've got people like him in the UK who aren't afraid to stand up for what is right. What a depressing situation.
I’m a yank that’s never heard of him, but his eloquence and confidence are impressive. Seems like a solid bloke.
This has been brewing a long time, this story was 20 years ago.
When my daughter was 5 she and her friends where chatting in assembly. The teacher asked "who at the back doesn't want to sing", to which my daughter put her hand up. After school that day the teacher took me to one side to tell me what my daughter had done and stressed that Mrs Mason (piano player) was upset. I was so close to saying "Well Mrs Mason needs to get a life", but my daughter was by my side. Instead I said "I have brought my daughter up not to lie, you asked her a question and she answered truthfully, what do you think she did wrong? Are you saying she should have lied? If you don't want a truthful answer I suggest you don't ask her questions".
The "being kind" little white lies is how they condition people into accepting bigger lies, it is a slippery slope.
This was the first of our many clashes, the second of which prompted me to stand for election to parent governor of the school and get elected. The teachers at the secondary school were no better. They just want to force our children into being compliant drones, what starts as not upsetting Mrs Mason ends up at "don't speak out against state propaganda".
Well done and thank you for stepping forward .I was trying to tell someone why I hate the " be kind "mantra "only yesterday. It is a nasty excuse for bad behaviour. It is used by people to sweep aside any criticism and has led to people believing that they are above reproach
@@bigted1347 yes, agreed 👍 And by way of example I know of an extremely violent, abusive & misogynistic man who has the 'Be Kind' frame on his Facebook picture! Pure narcissism.
Being kind- calling men ma’am and ladies sir because they ask it of us. Now they ACTUALLY think we have to believe it.
While some kindness is appropriate, too many people are thinking it means "never object no matter what others do". That's not kindness, it's rewarding nasty behaviour.
I'm beginning to absolutely resent the police. I don't trust them one iota.
The cops should resist this lunacy but they won't. They just do their job and go harrass people over unpleasant but legal tweets and to check the person's thinking.
@@wombatillo The cops themselves, at the risk of being mob-shamed and persona-non-gratad into losing their jobs, have been intimidated into compliance with this nonsense.
This is patently a top-down policy. Neo-Marxism pervades our Establishment waging their anti-capitalist culture war. Your comment implies that the police are focusing on this issue independently?!
Of course there are bad apples in the police but they are generally just normal people doing the hardest job imaginable with one hand tied behind their backs by woke bullshit.
That's if you can find one , in nearly six years I've not seen one in the town I moved to and we have horrendous ASB and car crime.
Same here.
Why didn't Facebook block his post.If he offended someone with his meme.
THAT , Detective , is the right question .
What I do not understand is where the justice system is doing about this. Also, how is this not creating a massive uproar in the UK.
It is causing an uproar
A few years ago, my wife had the catalytic converter cut out of her car exhaust system - both criminal damage and theft. It was naturally reported to the police who did not even bother to come to our house and at least have a look at the damage. And, as is normal in my limited experience of contact with police, I have heard nothing more ever since. All strength to Harry.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine; catalytic converters are being stolen so often, there's a waiting list for replacements -- which can be several weeks long, depending on the model of car.
And if you caught the guy and kicked the shit out of him, you'd be in jail right now.
@@frankvonfrauner of course - catalytic converters aren't being made for most older cars, there's a limited number of them left. That means once they're gone, someone somewhere has to buy a new car (or rather, their old car is total'd). This is actually less true in the UK than elsewhere, say Germany, where aftermarket car parts are completely verboten. Can't even change your lightbulbs to LED in Germany, even if its for improved safety and lower emissions. About 5 - 10 years ago scientists figured out how to squeeze 15-30% more fuel efficiency out of the combustion engine, whilst reducing emissions and fuel dependency. None of that technology has made it to production vehicles, except for a Mazda engine (skyactiv) which is some handicapped version of the HCCI engine. But that is when the push to switch to electric cars really started - before alternative fuel RCCI engines could be made and pandora's box is opened.
I moved to the UK about 10 years ago from an eastern european country. I'd wanted to live in a country with a robust legal system where you could respect the police and know that they were, in general, on your side (which is not the case in the country I was born in). I got my citizenship a few years ago, which means I can now vote in the general elections, and I am more and more becoming a single issue voter. I will vote literally for ANYBODY who will promise to get rid of the whole woke nonsense, including the "non-criminal hate incident" bollocks. I know the economy is in shambles, bo it's like that everywhere right now and I can take care of myself and my family even during a recession. I can take a candidate who does not agree with me in terms of their economic policy but I did NOT move here to live in a country where I have to censor what I think and say, like my whole family had to do during the communist times.
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Mate, I’m increasingly of the opinion that immigrants we have might yet just save this country from the wokery which is plaguing it.
Too right, we didn't need laws to govern the protection of free speech because the general view of the public was of a sense of fairplay and justice. I can't say that anymore
Proper use of bollocks,your more British than you think.
@@CHuzz7777 same here. They're clued up.
New to this channel from Rogan, inspired me to start my own as a black anti woke conservative. We need to speak up against this nonsensical ideology and faux laws
Wear that mask on your show and scared the fuck out of the internet!
Totalitarianism used to be sneaked in by attacking minorities, now it is under the guise of protecting them. And when it is established, who is first to suffer? Minorities. There is a reason black people refused to kneel for BLM and lesbians are the vanguard against gender idealogy and 'trans away the gay'. Best of luck with your podcast
37:00 this is why Britain is done. He doesn’t get it. Once you put in a subjective gate keeper you have no gatekeeper and the oppression begins. Who decides whats grossly offensive?
When "minor attracted adults" are celebrated you KNOW the world has gone batshit crazy...😢
Pedos you mean .pedophiles
Islam watch bob at speakers corner london, asking is it okay in islam - soco
Mr. Miller, the idea of offense itself is subjective, if you have a law in which you arrest someone over causing offense, then you are using a completely subjective metric with which to arrest people, there is no way something can objectively be "grossly offensive" because what is offensive completely depends on the person viewing the material, it is taken not given, that is literally by definition subjective, doesn't matter if one person thinks it's grossly offensive, or 100 of them do, it's still subjective
Yeah I caught that too. There is no objective standard.
What passes for a music video today would be considered pornographic 30 years ago.
Ruling by subjective measure is an open door for tyranny to walk through.
I agree but I do believe some form of law should be in place in the digital era against scenarios like harassment.
It should be stipulated that the offense must involve threat of violence or of an explicit sexual nature, and that there should only be a charge after a certain nuumber of offenses caused by the perpetrator. One dick pic should be a warning. Three to the same person via seperate account aliases? That's harrassment and should be treated as such.
@@fractale4322 yeah cuz that kind of stuff could actually violate someone's rights, people saying things you disagree with don't
this is why hate speech laws are completely asinine.. how can you possibly have a law where the victim decides whether a crime has been committed? if someone has their bike stolen, everyone can see that they have no bike, and someone else has it. it's subjective. but offense? anxiety? how do you measure that? what metric would you use? how do you know if they are lying or not? it's insane!
@@sqwalnoc Exactly - people lie about being offended, angered, etc. I believe the gender stuff is all lying about being offended. I mean, listen to what they claim - they claim that others want them dead, want them to not exist. It is all lies about their feelings. People say it's "men's feelings over women's rights" but it's not about men's feelings because the men are lying about their feelings. It's not that a man who wants to enter the women's restroom has his feelings hurt if he's told "No." He feels angry because he's told he cannot do what he want which is violate women's boundaries.
Oh FFS! Nothing could be more appropriate than that meme if you have clue as to what that flag represents. I can't believe it's come to this! Creeping authoritarianism!
It's not creeping any more, it's starting to trot. If not stopped, it will be galloping soon.
Harry Miller and Laurence Fox should be running this country. Great leaders with common sense, strength and decency.
You have got to be joking… while they are presenting their case well their moral standing is not what we want as politicians.. the leaders we have are bad enough!
Agreed
Nothing will change until the whole nation says no, no more, we do not consent.
Having been a total supporter of the police I experienced a false arrest (I'm a person who has never even comitted a parking offence in my life!.. really!) . They lied, broke PACE, and when they realised they had got it wrong kept making up yet another offence to arrest me on instead of some admitting they'd got it wrong. It was a complete shock to me , it felt as if the world had gone insane as I knew I was completely and utterly innocent. They even rang my boss in a clear attempt to try and get me I to trouble when nothing g would stick..... the supposed offences had nothing to do with my job!. I was quiet, polite and fully operative. It helped me not one iota. In the end they had to release me of course but stole well over 24 hours of my life. I now see them as the enemy. The ego and power craze was unreal. I saw first hand that dead eyed "we are the law, WE decide if you can live free" with my own eyes. It was a total world shock to me.
Most never consented in the first place!!
The push for he trans ideology is a form of forced voyeurism, without the consent of the citizen. We are being forced to participate in some perverts voyeuristic fetish without consent....
There will be numerous lawsuits, class actions, and civil court dispute coming...and any country that backed this nonsense will be bankrupt for decades paying these lawsuit settlement off
I already have.
I'm really surprised, an Act or Statute is not law and he should not have been arrested for this period‼️
You know, England, as a child and even now, was a fancy, rockin' and traditional utopia in my mind. With it's monarchy and class system and it's awesome Victorian herretige. The birthplace of Heavy metal, Punk rock and Tea-Time and my favorite chocolate, After Eight! With it's iconic buildings like The London Bridge and Big Ben, and the absolutely gorgeous Big Houses... and the most beautiful flag of all, The Union Jack! For Goths sake, England 🇬🇧 was the first country to outlaw slavery and your national dish is a Indian dish, there is so much history in England, and it pains me to the core to see this once proud Britain sink so low... BTW, I hope my letter (the one with the wax seal) has arrived safely! Have a good one mates.
P.s. this episode was terrifying 😱 here in the Netherlands it's not much better then in Britain.
For God's sake 🤣🤣🤣...not goths sake
Read "The war on the West" by Douglas Murray. It is all part of a plan.
@@nickbrennan3389 I think that was a deliberate slip. I prefer for goths sake to be fair. I will be using this moving forward haha 😄
Even in india the policing has reached a new low :(
@@Smyrna37 it was deliberate very much so
Grooming Gangs 👍
Naughty Jokes 👎
Psychopathic all this isnt it
"I've taught in university for many years. And one thing I know about university students is that you are teaching them how NOT to think. You are teaching university students how to achieve a set of predetermined learning outcomes by using a particular form of words, and managing to cobble it together within an essay or an exam answer. They want people who are trainee automatons." Harry Miller - 'Arrested for a meme'.
A man just wrote online that he disliked teachers because they stopped him learning for himself. I just started learning French on my own and feel grateful that I am not sitting at work in a Woke training course and having to learn all the new Woke language - and fill in the test at the end - which I'm good at. I can figure out what will be on the dumb test. People ask why I am learning French. There is no need for French where I live. I answered that I am 1/4 French and I feel like learning it and there is no other reason for spending time doing it.
I notice this is a year old. It just appeared on my screen. Its interesting that you mention a “reeducation” course a year ago. The Australian government has just a suggested a reeducation program in the last couple of weeks, to teach us how to vote properly🤔
As a pensioner I feel anxiety alarm nd distress if I see a plod walking in my direction after the yrs of abuse they committed towards the most vulnerable people throughout covid
Mister Harry is a national treasure for the United Kingdom.
I know that he is far too clean to ever enter politics, but he would be a great Prime Minister
@Paul B Yes.
I am not British, but that is indeed an often universal police fact.
I thought he was part of Reclaim with Lawrence.
@@DarkAngel2512 Yepp... But I have his own thing also.
I can't remember, in all the team's videos I've watched seeing Konstantin this visibly angry and animated. Thank you for doing this interview when you weren't planning on doing one this month after your US travels. People need to know if the Police is abusing legislation to achieve aims the legislation did not intend.
the problem with a law against being "grossly offensive" is that some people think saying "Happy Christmas" is grossly offensive.
This is why auditors have been massively successful and popular.
What a great man. Harry miller
Absolutely
I completely agree about the intersectional rainbow flag. As a lesbian when I see it hanging up in a gay bar or wherever I immediately feel unwelcome because I assume the people who hung it up there think that homosexuality is bigotry and would call me a terf for speaking my mind. It wasn't supposed to be like this.
Same here from a very annoyed lesbian who has NO "gender identity "
LGB need TQI+ to f*ck off and start their own movement not hijack ours
Look into NPC's
Gay people need to stand up to all this too. LGB alliance
What a great guy. This interview was terrifying though. Every time I think things are getting better, I hear something like this and I'm reminded how powerful and insidious these political forces are.
No arrest for a left wing meme ever been reported - unless I’ve missed it.
Perhaps repressive tolerance 🤔
The Left can't meme! 😜
It would be fun to test if it's a right not to be offended or just a right to repeat what big brother says.
The left is not good at memes, too politically correct.
They are safe from that, their memes suck .. because we all know the left can't meme!
Thank you for your service. Totally disgusting way to treat a good honest ENGLISH VETERAN. Police should be looked into
If you can trace violent crime to controversial speech, why is a whole genre of music allowed?
A Nothing but what about Video Games
That will be Grime, mate...
Excellent point ☝️
This ideology and it's tentacles are literally propagating into every facet of society. Across the pond in America, I sometimes look around and I feel like I'm a survivor from the film, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
*_TRUST !!_*
Who is organising the so-called re-education course that the police spoke about? Does the course apply to all cases of offending material posted on social media? Did anyone ask the police about this course?
Stonewall will happily provide the course at a fee.
I found an Intersectional activism training course on race, on-line today. It is a standard course and will be presented at various venues across the UK in the coming months. You will be provided with an action plan on how to motivate for changes and drive implementation. Simple.
Who is making money out of it is also a question that needs answering.
If it's anything like the USA it would be the ADL. That's who funded the knee on the neck training by Israeli military for American police officers.
Common Purpose
@@Gloops01 correct.
Chilling. However, shocking that he saw it as more important to change the police rather than change the law, almost as if changing the law isn't necessary. They are both necessary, and chaning the law is probably more important. Also, I really loved his discussion about how Naziism and Maoism is reflected in what is happening today. People should talk specific examples more, such as the dead eye cops.
YES get rid of the law. Get a first amendment law!
I am so sick of the cops in the UK and OZ.
Fascinating interview, excellent guest.
We're well and truly f*cked.
Keep up the good work boys!
Thankfully in America we have guns so we can take care of ourselves when the police refuse to.
Huge respect to Harry, what a great interview, chilling to hear what our police force has evolved into. In Scotland we had a TV detective series called Taggart & the meme was (in a Glaswegian accent) ‘There’s been a murder’ …nowadays it would be ‘There’s been a non-crime hate incident’ What a state society is in.
This ex police officer should be the new Met chief I can not believe this program, thank you for making it!
The worse part of this story for me is this should never have escalated so far where is common sense our troops abused daily not respected I see it daily at horse guards it’s so sad , this man and his comrades should be highly respected, no history in schools no manners no discipline, we are losing our way in this once Great Britain 🇬🇧 our history tradition patriotism being eroded the uk stay silent shame on these police officers who seemed to enjoy 😉 making this man a victim, uk gone crazy free speech should never be a problem the truth always finds the light ,
Imagine being the person who calls the police over an internet post. That's a boss-level Karen move right there.
They are NPCs and yes 😂 a karen move
How is it even possible society has come to this? You only need to go back a few years for this all to seem utterly impossible.
I know, it has come so fast suddenly. It's baffling that so many people could be caught up in it so quickly.
It started in the 70s. It gained momentum in the early 2000s. It became a juggernaut by about 2010.
@@karynirwin2477 Yuri Bezmenov told us how it started and what they hoped to achieve. It was a slow burn but it’s found its mark now.
Because " It can't happen here.", And so it happens.
Are you from UK? It wasnt like this in UK in the 70s. This didnt start until 2011 and the Mark Duggan riots when kids were getting arrested for stealing bottles of water.
When the "shit hits the fan", I want Harry Miller as the leader of my underground unit, balls out, my man.
Got to respect Harry for standing up against what he knows to be wrong
The more people follow his example, the better off we will all be.
Please sue each officer one by one , then sue the city
This dude lost me when he said grossly offensive speech should be able to be prosecuted. No fucking way. The only speech that should be stopped is that which is a direct threat to violence. Anything else too fucking bad, boo who, grow up and deal with it.
They have a different view of free speech in UK than we have in the US. The US's free speech tradition costs us something, as people can knowingly lie about others. It also has a strength of a clearly identifiable line.
The worse problem is that people is arrested for memes, but are NOT arrested by murder, rape, violence against children, theft, robbery and injuries against people.
Brilliant interview. I've never been left feeling so much anger and fear from an interview
The comparison between police officers and the German executioners of WW2 is a correct one. The Germans recruited from the police force very heavily for their Einzatsgruppen and death camp guards. Police forces attract a certain type of human being. The type that will follow orders...
The police are just a legalised gang.
Alot are psychopathic it attracts psychopaths and NPCs
Following orders at your job is not an excuse for ignorrance
The first time I heard the term pre-crime was in Minority Report. That film was not supposed to be an instruction manual.
No kidding!!
36:26 That's BS. It doesn't matter if it's "offensive" or "grossly offensive". There's no objective criteria to decide what's "offensive", and "grossly offensive" stuff shouldn't be a crime either. The wording of the law he's citing is deeply wrong and a very slippery slope. The act from that example shouldn't be a crime because that grandma took offense, it should be a crime because it's harassment.
I work in law & order. This shames us all. Absolutely ridiculous and farcical. I'm pleased Hampshire were dragged over the coals for this.
I'm offended by the rainbow flag . Will they start arresting people. Lmao .
Intersectional flag is "Fascism wrapped up in a rainbow."
How can we be sure there is a 'victim' if they are not named?
In the US you have a right to face your accuser. But that only matters if you end up in court. They are pulling the same crap over here too.
I feel Konstantin’s agony. I’m ostensibly left wing, though it’s an increasingly complicated relationship, and trying to explain to left wing people why this is insane is like pulling teeth. The gaslighting is relentless. I need to find a better way of framing it and if nothing else these conversations help with that
I'm left wing and gay but I find all this rainbow Reich stuff terrifying
I took down a poster outside my local pub advertising a drag act...wtf should we put up with this crap in the name of LGBT+ acceptance?
As a thought exercise, I highly recommend that you look at it not just as left or right, but also as authoritarian vs anarchy, and see where you fall.
There's a BIG difference between left and right on social issues and left and right on financial issues. And that's only two major categories. If you take it further, there are even more.
I'm finding an increasing number of people are having to separate those ideas for the first time, really, because on the social side, the parties have basically flip-flopped (now the right wants individual freedom and to be left alone, whereas back in the 80s, THEY were the authoritarians) but on the fiscal side, the parties haven't really changed much. (Not saying they haven't changed at all - I'm trying to keep this fairly simple is all.)
Seriously, I have had to do some reevaluating of my own in the last few years - and it's worth looking at, I think.
Most importantly, IMO, you will have a better understanding of where you stand and what issues are most important to you, and that helps a lot.
Good luck, everyone. I think we're going to need it.
Harry Miller should be given a Knighthood for all the great good work that he has done and continues to do. Well done Trigernometry on bringing this all to the attention of the public. Shame on our mainstream media for failing to do so. Our entire policing structure and operation needs to be torn down and rebulit from scratch. This should be a top priority of our next Prime Minister.
So, perhaps this a Captain Obvious thing, but does anyone else notice the irony of sicking the police on somebody for sharing a meme comparing the LGBT community to the Nazi party?
I mean....
Talk about I Resemble that Remark.
If the police have this much spare time then all overtime can be stopped and maybe even cut force down.
As someone who’s had the misfortune to deal with the police, as a victim, they have no interest in dealing with real crime, even when forced to as part of the complaints procedure..
They’re petty, vindictive, lazy and incompetent, and if they did actually lift a finger to do their job instead of complaining about lack of resources they’ll find much less crime to deal with.
No humane person should have a grain of sympathy for a thoroughly corrupt institution that ought to be abolished.
A Trojan Horse for Fascism.
I've been saying it for years.
I don't think even 'grossly' offensive things should be illegal. 'Grossly' will be very hard to define and adults should be able to brush off verbal criticism or even insults.
Agreed. “There is no statutory definition of what constitutes a 'grossly offensive' communication. Each case must be assessed on its merits…” according to the CPS
Never thought I'd support defunding the police
come the revolution, come.
100%
Reform not defund!
@@trooperdgb9722 Exactly. Who would want no police force? Most likely a criminal or a moron.
This time I really have been triggered. Chilled me to the bone. This has been my favourite episode this year. If people still can't admit what is wrong with the "progressives", I've lost all hope. I agree with everything this man has said. I'm not from the UK but the only thing I would add to his assessment is that it started with _language_, I think "Political" correctness is where it started. When you start controlling the words people use, you are controlling their thinking as well. It seems to me that historically, speech is supposed to evolve organically. Words become too old fashioned for the younger generation and trendy words get added to everyday speech, but obliging societies to drop certain words to be replaced with an _acceptable_ alternative and then ostracizing ALL people who don't use the appropriate word is tyrannical. Thing is we listen to these horror stories but can't take action. As long as people have something to lose, most of us cannot act, and we become apathetic. The powers that be understand the psychology of the masses. They just keep slowly but surely encroaching on our freedom and we get used to it. Maybe I didn't express this in the best way, but I think most people understand what I mean.