Bruh 😭😭a whole 12 countermeasures on the Russian version. I guess Russian bias and Germany suffers so the German version of the Russian plane is better
They don't want us thinking we are the dominates. They let us think so for a sec with rolling back after the review crashing a few years back, so this is them punching us in ribs then shoving our face into the mattress and not letting us up til we call them daddy
F-4F early - non flare F-4F MIG-23MF - C&P Soviet MIG-23M MIG-21 BIS LAZUR-M - C&P MIG 21 BIS SAU Tornado IDS WTD-61 nerfed tornado IDS ASSTA 1 Tornado IDS MFG - have unique weapon but useless so nerfed Tornado IDS ASSTA.1 And Su 22 M4 WTD-61 - C&P Again Just no unique weapon for premium vehicle and nothing change And these are things that don't fit the current game meta
3:05 Japan collectively has a grand total of 4 miserable jets in ranks VI and VII and the AV-8S is going to be a fucking pack????? How is this cool?? I've played all 4 and they absolutely SUCK in the current meta. Only the F-5E FCU maintained my sanity long enough to reach rank VIII
Hopefully the (Early) means we'll also be getting a tech tree one that could actually be better, although it probably won't come this update unfortunately.
4:18 i think the term "flight performance" would work best here without any confusion. But 'mechanics' is clear enough, at least i didnt find it confusing
When you use laser guided agms, have at least one of tv guided ones on your wing. That way you can use the camera of the tv ones to use as sight. Its heaps Better than using on board designator.
Seems lazy but I prefer premiums to basically just be tech tree vehicles with a grind boost. I hate it when they lock cool unique vehicles behind a paywall.
you can slave and lock your laser guided missile to your tv system by activating laser pointer in tv mode, lock target to follow it., in my opinion, its the better choice to grind german luftwaffe
Hey Tankenstein, is there a premium in the Russian tech tree that I can use to grind planes? I've made it to top tier air in US tree, and was looking for something similar to the F-4S to play so that I can bomb bases, but not the su-25 (too similar to A-10). Thanks :D
I feel like this thing is better for ground battles due to it having guided, I’ve played the su-17m4 before, it’s not really any better than the tornado in dogfighting and can’t accelerate anywhere near close to as fast as the tornado, although it is cool to have diversity between these aircraft I guess
This situation is so bad it stops being funny. A clone of a vehicle from the tech tree in a role where you have already introduced a clone from the tech tree? And both tech trees end on that very same vehicle so there's not even a reason to grind the tree? Who do you think German mains are? Silly cash cows that can be milked with minimal effort and mocked at the same time? No good top tier fighter, no good top tier ground attacker and then on top of that two slaps to the face with the minimal effort shown in premium vehicle considerations. Americans got a unique F-20A, British got a unique MiG-21, God sees it, the Soviets will get something unique a 100%. This is worse than the Phantom Clone Wars! I swear, Gaijin, this better be an elaborate scheme to conceal Canadian CF-18 in order not to anger American mains...
Well Germany needed some sort of viable CAS at high tier. wish they had something 10.7 to go with the Leopard 2A4's. For gound forces Mains. Tornado will still have to be the Pick
I don't think it can be compared to Tornado, because ordnance like ATGM is more usefull in GF, and there is 0.7 BR difference between those planes in it
You should run tornado in arcade mode, talk about having fun again, most games I played I was top dog, more fun than realistic, and I got better results.
I don't even know why you'd even want this over the tornado. The tornado is superior in terms of base bombing in air RB The only redeeming factor for the su22 in my opinion is that you're slightly more manoeuvrable and get laser guided atgms with piss poor zoom.
9L is a good missile but when fired from a semi truck with jet engines it wont have good results. (also 2 missiles is not much to ride home about anyway)
@@kiranplays2688 I just loose them to flares super often. I see the videos here on YT where they don't give AF about flares but when I use them 1 flare is already enough.
I'd like to by premium jet for my premium Leo BUT why it so bad?(( It really looks like "stop asking us for a premium jet and take this shit" - but they could do work and provide more interesting and playable jet((
Love my nado. CCRP lock the area i want to delete, dive for the deck in full afterburner, before i enter AA range gradual nose up with release authorized. Minute or so later 8 mark83s rain down on target as i am landingnfor reload. Is it efficient? No. Is it safe? Yes. Is it hilarious when it works? Yes. Also very good for base busting in Air
Well and in witch f. Gamemode we are supposed to play this thing to our satisfaction? You wont reach the Groundbases nor the Groundforces before getting shut down by Missiles. Honestly im done with Warthunder. The only thing I can somehow enjoy is Helicopter PvE.
Copy-pasta. Thanks for the review brother. Can we pass feedback to atleast make minor differences for them? Kinda defeats the purpose for premium vs tech tree
Gaijin doesn't want give fire forget atgm like russia and other nations? 😂 Just poor vehicles to Germany 😂😂😂 Dear warthunder russian friends ww2 is over and adolf is died. Your hate and anger is meaningless 😊
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This thing: 256 countermeasures
Soviet squadron Su22m3: screaming from far away
just play the Su-17M4, same thing as the Su 22m4.
@@L1B4NN1NHODoesn't su22 have better engine?
@@Denkmaldrubernacht the 22 is just the export variant of the 17
The squadron SU-22 is just sad :(
Bruh 😭😭a whole 12 countermeasures on the Russian version. I guess Russian bias and Germany suffers so the German version of the Russian plane is better
this is a slap in the face.....
it feels petty, like: "hear you go your CAS that you wanted so badly! now shut up and play the game"
They don't want us thinking we are the dominates. They let us think so for a sec with rolling back after the review crashing a few years back, so this is them punching us in ribs then shoving our face into the mattress and not letting us up til we call them daddy
And spend 60 bugs
Exactly
@@maggyyolokraut1941 they could’ve made this in a day this probably wasn’t even planned until people complained
womp womp
It’s just copy paste so German players stop asking for planes that’s all this id
indeed
@ kinda crazy as this thing could 100% have been made in a day
F-4F early - non flare F-4F
MIG-23MF - C&P Soviet MIG-23M
MIG-21 BIS LAZUR-M - C&P MIG 21 BIS SAU
Tornado IDS WTD-61 nerfed tornado IDS ASSTA 1
Tornado IDS MFG - have unique weapon but useless so nerfed Tornado IDS ASSTA.1
And Su 22 M4 WTD-61 - C&P Again
Just no unique weapon for premium vehicle and nothing change And these are things that don't fit the current game meta
@@probegreen7439 also tornados are just generaly bad
AND I WILL KEEP ON ASKING UNTIL WE GET A USABLE TOPTIER CAS xD
3:05 Japan collectively has a grand total of 4 miserable jets in ranks VI and VII and the AV-8S is going to be a fucking pack????? How is this cool?? I've played all 4 and they absolutely SUCK in the current meta. Only the F-5E FCU maintained my sanity long enough to reach rank VIII
I feel your pain
I grinded for F16AJ and all I got was 10.0 missiles at 13.0+ battles
Hopefully the (Early) means we'll also be getting a tech tree one that could actually be better, although it probably won't come this update unfortunately.
AS someone who flies the Su-17M4, it's a fun plane. But expect everyone foaming at the mouth as they go after you.
succubus for the planes 😭
4:18 i think the term "flight performance" would work best here without any confusion. But 'mechanics' is clear enough, at least i didnt find it confusing
When you use laser guided agms, have at least one of tv guided ones on your wing. That way you can use the camera of the tv ones to use as sight. Its heaps
Better than using on board designator.
Seems lazy but I prefer premiums to basically just be tech tree vehicles with a grind boost. I hate it when they lock cool unique vehicles behind a paywall.
you can slave and lock your laser guided missile to your tv system by activating laser pointer in tv mode, lock target to follow it., in my opinion, its the better choice to grind german luftwaffe
How do i do that.. I just unlocked rank 2 air for Germany. So what do I need to lock now??
still could have been something better
how ??? you cant put tv and laser missiles at the same time
@@aslatabistaalphonso4250 this aint for you lil bro
Thanks bro
The tornado is the only premium I've wanted a refund for. It's a great bomber but it handles like a falling brick. Even empty it's terrible.
I love the tornado I don’t mind that it’s a brick
Hey Tankenstein, is there a premium in the Russian tech tree that I can use to grind planes? I've made it to top tier air in US tree, and was looking for something similar to the F-4S to play so that I can bomb bases, but not the su-25 (too similar to A-10). Thanks :D
Another useless cash grab copy and paste from the tech tree
I feel like this thing is better for ground battles due to it having guided, I’ve played the su-17m4 before, it’s not really any better than the tornado in dogfighting and can’t accelerate anywhere near close to as fast as the tornado, although it is cool to have diversity between these aircraft I guess
This situation is so bad it stops being funny. A clone of a vehicle from the tech tree in a role where you have already introduced a clone from the tech tree? And both tech trees end on that very same vehicle so there's not even a reason to grind the tree?
Who do you think German mains are? Silly cash cows that can be milked with minimal effort and mocked at the same time? No good top tier fighter, no good top tier ground attacker and then on top of that two slaps to the face with the minimal effort shown in premium vehicle considerations. Americans got a unique F-20A, British got a unique MiG-21, God sees it, the Soviets will get something unique a 100%. This is worse than the Phantom Clone Wars!
I swear, Gaijin, this better be an elaborate scheme to conceal Canadian CF-18 in order not to anger American mains...
It will make a fine addition to my collection
Su-22M3 if it was good for CAS... Gaijin could add the domestic modification of extra countermeasures for the Syrian Su-22M3.
May I ask if you can do a video of the new premium ja 37 coming
good to know gaijins hears we need a viable Gen 4 fighter and they get useless Gen 3 plane from it, Id much rather my Assta1 or F4 then this thing.
@@fegelein2233 yea and neither of those are any good
P-60MK is good?
Well Germany needed some sort of viable CAS at high tier. wish they had something 10.7 to go with the Leopard 2A4's. For gound forces Mains. Tornado will still have to be the Pick
I don't think it can be compared to Tornado, because ordnance like ATGM is more usefull in GF, and there is 0.7 BR difference between those planes in it
863 spawn points for 2x Tv missiles, and you get smashed by a 2s6 missile, or a S1 missile.
No lineup besides Puma. Both should be 10.7 BR.
The tornado is hot garbage, nice to see this added.
You should run tornado in arcade mode, talk about having fun again, most games I played I was top dog, more fun than realistic, and I got better results.
I don't even know why you'd even want this over the tornado. The tornado is superior in terms of base bombing in air RB
The only redeeming factor for the su22 in my opinion is that you're slightly more manoeuvrable and get laser guided atgms with piss poor zoom.
Buying the Tornado was my worst mistake in Warthunder ever. And i really don't get why people like the 9L so much. I never get good results with them.
9L is a good missile but when fired from a semi truck with jet engines it wont have good results. (also 2 missiles is not much to ride home about anyway)
@@kiranplays2688 The expression is "write home" lol
@@kiranplays2688 I just loose them to flares super often. I see the videos here on YT where they don't give AF about flares but when I use them 1 flare is already enough.
I love the tornado tbh
@@Jasperisepic They look super cool but the premium IDS is just not good.
What is it with gaijin and useless premiums of recent?
First the tornado. Then the obj.140 and now this?
Well at least maybe give it r73s to make it a little different than the tt variant
Why always east soviet premium i need a F4 premium
why doesnt gaijin just give germany a good top tier prem for air
Unless you want a german phantom, you're kind of sol. Went straight from it to eurofighter and no way thatll be prem in forseeable future
Guess I'll get it in a year when it is on discount^^
is this plane worth it to buy?
I'd like to by premium jet for my premium Leo BUT why it so bad?(( It really looks like "stop asking us for a premium jet and take this shit" - but they could do work and provide more interesting and playable jet((
Tbf, the aim9l is supper super under preforming
Bruh
Skill issue they great
Its not compiting as the tornado is going out
Love my nado. CCRP lock the area i want to delete, dive for the deck in full afterburner, before i enter AA range gradual nose up with release authorized. Minute or so later 8 mark83s rain down on target as i am landingnfor reload.
Is it efficient? No. Is it safe? Yes. Is it hilarious when it works? Yes. Also very good for base busting in Air
howabout，i want use it.iI think it's a little slow.
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Oh is it Soviet / Russian? Let's make it pimped for Putin.
More east german vehicles are always welcome.
Well and in witch f. Gamemode we are supposed to play this thing to our satisfaction? You wont reach the Groundbases nor the Groundforces before getting shut down by Missiles. Honestly im done with Warthunder. The only thing I can somehow enjoy is Helicopter PvE.
Copy-pasta. Thanks for the review brother. Can we pass feedback to atleast make minor differences for them? Kinda defeats the purpose for premium vs tech tree
This thing is dead on arribal on Air RB, just another low effort cash grab.
Nothing strange,just laziness
This BS in 11.0? 😂😂😂😂
R60 mk are shit
Better then most AIM missiles since you can headon kill targets with the low fuse time
Gaijin doesn't want give fire forget atgm like russia and other nations? 😂
Just poor vehicles to Germany 😂😂😂
Dear warthunder russian friends ww2 is over and adolf is died. Your hate and anger is meaningless 😊
Oooh also fist
of course premium xd they wanna war again
Then just grind the regular one ?