The Demand For a PVP MMO Is Increasing - And Here's Why
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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So with the recent release of players numbers within certain PVP MMOs it seems the demand for PVP within this genre is much higher than expected. Can Ashes of Creation deliver what this group of players want without alienating the rest of the audience?
Today we'll be discussing this and much much more.
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so you finaly branched out to albion online, next up panthion ☺
How about possible mmo fusions that would be good, bad, and odd?
That could be some good filler content?
This ashes pvp game system is going to be abused like this : go very low hp on a zone and run into a pack of mob farmed by another player then make it ban for harrassment cause u didnt attacked him.or corrupted. This corruption system is the doggshiest idea ever fucking 14 iq system.
You are acting as if the griefers will CARE. They will ride off, wait, come back. The moment they announced this as a full loot pvp mmo...it has a lifespan of 6 months. Or less. On day one there will be roving gank squads who wont give a rats for any penalties as long as they get their lulz.
Pvpers are, by definition, snivelling cowards, who wont fight unless in big numbers, one on one..will run like hell.
@@Sonnabend00 im not a mmo player beside NW :D and i usually enjoy 1vX not Xv1 but yeah i can see that 1vX to be annoying for some where for me its a delight ! A nyway this game is a tab target game so yeah .. its w/e of interest :D
But i still do enjoy narc vids !
have a nice day mate :D
RIP Narcs back for carrying us till Ashes of creations launch date XD
Yeah in 2077
Can someone make a meme of Narc's head on the body of Atlas with the words "AoC Community" on the globe?
back hurts from carrying all that AoC copium :P
3:00 You're absolutely right. There are a LOT of Albion players that only stick to the yellow zone & sometimes the red zone. A lot of these players went to the black zone once & decided to never go back
The most common reason why we, as Albion players, stay in red zone (Royal Continent) is because of its RvR (aka Faction Warfare) where you aren't alone as your ally faction players is with you as well as you band together as one faction zergs specially during Bandit Assault
Albion is a very well put together game. It rewards you for putting in the time, and will punish cavalier credit card warriors severely if they think they can just buy the "best" gear and run into pvp willy nilly. And NO, Albion is not dominated by the mindless Zerg pvp you alluded to in this video. That is actually a pretty small subsection of actual pvp. Most happens in small scale groups of 10 or less, or in the Mists now(1v1v1), and even the more controlled corruption dungeon 1v1s. That being said, I don't even pvp much at all. I prefer to gather, transport and play the market. If you can't get past the isometric perspective thing that's on you, not the game. Albion pretty much offers most, if not all, of what other games you would classify as mmo have. Guilds, group activities, crafting, gear progression, harvesting, dungeoning, exploring, pvp etc. etc.
I really hope Ashes can find a good balance for gearing, pve and pvp. It's one of the hardest things to do in these types of games.
Yeah! MMO whalers learned the hard way that their gear worth of million dollars is nothing if they lost it in red/black zone
I played Albion for quite awhile and the pvp was fantastic. Caravans carrying supplies and weapons were constantly attacked and defended and the fights over zones and hideouts(guild bases) would draw hundreds of players at a time. You would see tactics and communication between alliances make or break control over zones and their resources. I enjoyed how balanced they kept the abilities.
You are definitely correct about the gear. You have your pve gear, and then you have your pvp gear. Pve would be your most powerful gear that you don't want lost and your pvp gear would be the gear you expect to lose and can afford to replace. To be honest, I appreciated the loss of gear upon death and the ability to loot good gear off of bodies. I wouldn't mind if intrepid had people lose their gear upon death. Maybe they could have an attainable rune or some protection item/spell to save certain gear upon death so you could respawn with it and not lose top tier equipment.
Sounds good
Sounds good
Now theres a solo/duo zone so you can literally bring out your good gear without the fear of getting zerged for it. you have have some fun sessions rolling people in 8.3s. not worth taking fight with other 8.3s though because some dude in 4.1s will literally linger during the fight then finish off the winner if its close.
@@zOkaiikoilol, true. I never took 8.3 out of safe zones. I guess with ashes that'll be kinda different due to no zone being particularly safe. It'll be interesting to see how that concept works.
they wont, they mostly apeal to WoW boomers and dad gamers, they wont have that for sure
Wow, I did not expect you to mention Albion Online. That's my main game while I wait for AOC and I have a lot of clips from end game small-scale pvp on my channel if you want to check them out! 😎
I’ve moved more to PvE play when I do play any mmos these days, but I have been liking the PvP aspects being talked about in Ashes of Thin Air. Looking forward to release.
A small correction, you CAN drop gear after your corruption reaches a certain level. Part of the risk vs reward system. One of the reasons that i like to compare AoC to EvE is due to Game size vs player amount, both will have lots of area to play so you can choose to be in a populated or unpopulated area, another is due to both games having reasons why you want to attack / defend the area youve invested in. Ashes will be popular since games that have a good reason to fight over something have always been popular.
Good stuff Narc! I do enjoy your intros, cut scenes and over all commentary. Keep it up! Eventually, we'll get our Alpha 2...
Love your skits man! Had to become your Patreon :)
Love the outro! (and the whole video)
While I may disagree with some of your conclusions, I enjoy the journey. Thanks for another great video.
I like PVP but I like PVE more.
But my favorite way to set up a game is to have both and the freedom to choose, like traditional MMORPGs would allow with PVP servers and PVP arenas for PVE servers.
But it depends on the game. For example my favorite game of all is Star Citizen and there, immersion-based realism just demands the possibility of PVP, and in a free manner similar to real life.
@@freedomarts You are the problem, Carebear.
Keep on mate. You can do it.
Good Job, Narc
Hey Narc, last time you responded to me when I said Albion WAS a good game with: Copium.
Glad to know you were high on Copium actually haha ;) Greetings
i like this cause it helps define a pvp mmo vs pvx well
Very much against games that harshly punish open world PvP.
I dont grief people, usually kill em once or twice and find someone else, or I get bodied. It breaks up the crap grind that all MMO's for the most part.
I guess thats why I lean to eastern MMORPG's.
@Narc i haven't seen you dig into games like Mortal Online or Darkfall Online. I believe it would add to this topic and i'm sure you could learn about different types of PvP games. And i'd really like to see you compare those to what AoC will be.
I love full loot PvP games, but honestly with looter shooter games like tarkov, hunt showdown, Rust and now dark and darker, my itch for punishing PvP is kind of already scratched. Full loot for me would be amazing but at the same time I understand that that sort of MMO isn't sustainable, the majority of players just don't want to loose progress on death to bullshit and I get that... so for me at this point I just want a PvP MMO where theres still risk and rewards associated to killing/dying and for gear not to be the deciding factor in the majority of fights. And if gear is going to be a massive factor then I want risk associated to using that gear in the open world. One thing i cant stand in PvP in MMOs is a player with bad PvP skills winning a fight because he has PVE'd his way to good gear, its just dumb.
I repeat again, Albion is one of the games that can be really called MMORPG , if they got the budget for an triple A Game, they would make the best MMORPG by far, the devs are the most competent in the genre
@Hill Wow is more p2w then albion to be fair
Ultima Online, in a large way, gave birth to pvp as we know it today in mmos. It's top down view was before ARPGs even existed.
My #1 concern is people keep brushing twards it but never make the connection. You mention the economy, and how pvp is part of that loop risk/reward There is nothing stopping people from camping/farming mats. The ONLY solution is to GAIN corruption, and then be at risk for gear drop. So if some one puts a toon on node's and has a buddy (or alt boxxed) watch/wait. So they kill your miner/farmer they now have corruption because you did not fight back, you come in with your toon to kill them, they drop gear.
So there is NO solution to node camping EXCEPT pvp, but that balance is flawed because you will put yourself at a disadvantage and lose gear to the node camper's alt. I have asked for ALTERNATE solution to node camping farmers as this is toxic game play. "oh what are you gonna do KILL ME and get corruption?" there is nothing to chancel node camping resources, there has to be some alternative flagging going or some other solution to that dynamic of the economy because other wise you invite one toxic mechanic to anotehr
So you are saying there's a predictable red player for bounty hunters to target? Have someone kill the node camper and then when they switch toy heir red the bohus get their payday.
@@justinwhite2725 That is alot of steps to add for a very uncomplex grief mechanic. You have to approach it from all angels. Resorses camping drives the econ, you have no alt means to resorse campling, what your are suggesting takes resorces to combat. Do you see the break in the logic circle?
@@PHaRTnONu You can literally go other places aside from one particular location. Resources can be abundant. And it's not like they will protect those resources forever. There's random events that can happen that players might go after. And certain resources are only scarce through different seasons. It can be abundant on a particular season.
Also the solution to your other concern is to have 2 or 1 gear drop. Since you're not gonna get all your gear once another player gets it. Every one of them disappear instead of maybe 2 or 3. IF your buddy gets it. It doesn't matter. You still have to farm for the other gears again.
@@perilousintent2936 1, no one knows how abundant some resources will be, due to things as node age, weather and rarity. As some resources are only drop-able from a node based on race/class, EG: every one can mine iron, but only 1 race class can get a certain resource from the same node on a chance bonus drop. This is the issue. Please look into the wiki for details how the gather system works there are super rare resources part of the gathering crafting system and node age is a determining factor factor, so if some one is harvesting nonstop your chances of getting said resource are near nill
@@PHaRTnONu Oh, ok. This might be a great thing to point out on their discord. They do ask questions about how certain things will work if it aint on the wiki. I haven't really looked into that.
nice video narc. albion online is an important part of the mmo ecosystem since it helps provide a standard of comparison for pvp mmos to rise above.
I played Warhammer online, very much known for its Zerging. But luckily i was in guild well trained in killing and wiping a zerg horde. DO NOT FEAR THE ZERG. Good tactics and organisation can triumph over a group half your size.
Also the thrill of beating the odds is crazy addictive.
"Good tactics and organisation can triumph over a group half your size." xD
@@towakin7718 i mean over a group twice your size 😅
@@richarddavies7540 Yeah I assumed, but had to laugh hard when I read it, so had to share :D
This 100%.
0:22 boomer back. Happens to us all.
Love the new shirt!!
pretty sure thats the first time I heard the "what a joker" clip in two years
Sounds great, send me alert in two years when it releases
Please note that Albion online was originally a pc game before it came to Mobile plus it's free to play so check it out
The biggest motivation for pvp for me is constant struggle for a territory thats rich in resources.
V Rising's pvp world is quite amazing in early access. The first content patch is coming this year.
I hope we both get RNJesus blessed dragon mount eggs in Ashes Narc, I truly do.
We need a new pvp mmorpg because we got bored with all the other pvp online games out there... Like LoL and stuff.
I stick to the fighting game genre and Tekken currently...but you can't make anything similar to a guild and I'm sure everyone struggles to make a serious collective of people with games that don't have it inherently in their system. LoL drove me mad anyway years ago because it takes too much effort to form a collective, I'm still annoyed over the fact a team based game never catered for that and they dropped Team Builder mode disgustingly *spit*.
Throne and Liberty is gonna be a pvp mmorpg launching 2023
@@saifon4316 it will 100% be exactly like any other kr mmos out now. How many kr mmos release every year and they turn out the same. Nothing innovative about them.
@@saifon4316 Korean MMO's suck...period. P2W garbage.
We need a "What a joker!" emote in the discord.
My entire RP in ashes will be that of a serial killer.
Hey Narc, This isnt AoC related but just curious. Do you ever plan on revisting new world and seeing how its changed? I think you would be pleasently surprised. If so, Id recommend at least waiting until summer so you can try out the new raid content as well.
To clarify by massive scale, I mean, if you’re in the same world, regardless of any server zones for her lines, I mean, old are Ultima online ad for her divisions you have a crossover lines people used to use an MVP all the time you know to brake line of sight still in our grandma I’ll be an online is also still an MMO’s or scrolls online is an MMO, regardless of results out games with 20 player instance zones where are you go in and out of zones changing with this group of players and they’re still MMO
The one thing about being able to PVX in this game is that farm bots will be terminated on sight. The last thing you need is an army of farm bots moving into your node and cutting all the trees down for miles when your node needs them for an up-and-coming war or progression. I would have loved to be able to PK the bots in Lost Ark who would mine 24/7 outside of town destroying the economy. Eve has a robust economy because anyone at any moment can decide to try and take you out regardless of what sec you’re in. High sec has consequences because you must be in and out fast. Being able to PK someone who is griefing your nodes is nice to have. You can also kill some idiot in your raid that start to argue with you.
your make up is on point.. 🙌
u have made me interested in said game i like full pvp and there is no point in attacking someone who is not willing to fight back will definitely be up to the fighting style and rewards/price of the game to time spent and if there is even a skill lvl it or is everything just heavily gear dependent
Albion has the most insanely brutal pvp and the most hard core capitalist economy I have ever come across in a game. Its do damn brutal that it becomes incredibly hard to play as a solo player. Super rewarding but the sheer exposure to loss every player encounters when they leave the yellow zone ramps up so dramatically that people take the game very seriously. Its an awesome game though! They are way too stingy with the loot though.
Not even the Albion's pve chest loot isn't enough to compensate it tho-
I play WoW mainly for PvP content, IMHO an MMORPG without PvP is tasteless and boring. Keep the good work Narc!
@@freedomarts Ummm...no. Just no. I hope nobody else reads your garbage wall of text...they'll save brain cells. If you can't handle player interaction go play single player games. Pathetic.
But Narc how can I take any mobile game seriously when there’s like only 3 buttons on my phone to use. Volume up, down and power.
NARC MY MAN
what do you think about the oceans being non corruption zones? Are the pvp/pk guilds going to rule over that area?
I do not mind the idea of loosing gear and then having to get it again if the game loop is fun and as long as I get to keep the appearance. Though I do primarily play pve.
I don t know about anyone else, but personally i would LOVE to get a hold of my own pair of Steven boxers or shirt. (hint hint)
Narc not having an intro because his back aches counts as an intro.
so i cant steal material without getting corruption i assume.
what the point of open world pvp then
you can, if the player attacks back he drops material and you dont get corrupted. Also, if he attacks back he doesnt lose as many materials as he would, which means that the best world for both of you is to engage in a meaningful pvp
Difference is , if something is worth fighting over , players will fight each other for it.
@@tonydalimata i agree and disagree the being worth should not by only depending on the worth of the items.
realy depend on how deep the crafting system is going to by.
how they have war cycle on nodes like archeage
The only thing I wonder about this system is what is stopping a competitor from having alts that just wipe all your gatherables away?
So if I wanted to stop someone from killing me in the open world, I just have to not fight back at all, and they'll be fucked if they actually kill me.
Are you gonna try throne and liberty?
I'm a big old school runescape fan, im not very good and im mostly a pvmer but the exciting part about osrs pvp is the possibility of catching someone off guard in the wildy and getting their stuff. there is something about the quick come-up that is the big dopeamine hit for me. you describe it as toxic (and it is) and at is core, hardcore games are toxic. i pvm and die in the wildy and it sucks but there are ways to limit your loss. just a thought, love the videos even if its just your thoughts on the parts of the game that excite you most!
This game I mention is not mmo, but its a finely balanced 3 vs 1, PvP game. It is both deep (if you want to go there) or it is just a fun, easy, run.
Try Dead by Daylight. I am a long time MMO player and I find this game fascinating to watch.
I promise you if you put 40 hours into Warhammer age of reckoning private server you will appreciate the PvP it offers it was and is ahead of its time. Actually group up and PvP it’s amazing.
nice video
Also, what's the outro song called
I think that they should put a system in place where you can't collect materials from killing the same player over and over again within a certain time frame. So if I kill my friend in PvP and I claim the materials for it. I can't get materials from killing him again for another 3 hours. And if I do it then at 3 hours, then I'll have to wait 6 hours for him to drop materials if I kill him, then 12 then 18, etc. I just don't want to see a bunch of bots farming these materials over and over again just killing each other and running back. There should be a safeguard system to prevent this from happening and encourage people to kill many different players.
ayo can't wait to get banned for griefing after winning a fight against a gm
Yeah I enjoyed Albion for a quick minute, wasn't really for me but I can see the appeal. Just not an iso guy, drives me nuts :)
When is the launch date?
I´ve been looking up info about AoC and so far it looks like another version of ESO (in a good way). If it features large open battles, smallscale PvP, a dueling system WITHOUT LAGS i am sold on it 🙂
Bounty Hunters is the Key! I'm talking Ashes of Creation.
I like to call them GvP MMOs. Griffer vs Player. because at the end of the day, that's ALL they are. My experiences with (deep breath) EverQuest, Linage2, DAoC, Earth and Beyond, WoW, Rift, Arch Age, and even single player games with online elements like the new Elden Ring......... Chock full of Griffers who get their jolly's by making damn sure other players suffer through murder after murder and rage quit because they cannot accomplish ANYTHING with their limited play time!
@@freedomarts EQ was my first MMO and I dont remember any servers being pvp free. DAoC was ALL PvP all the time. It was difficult to get into an enemy factions zone, True, but it was doable. and most of the ones who did, did it with the sole goal of attacking the starting zones, and they did. reapeatedly murdering all the L 1-10 players with their max level toon untill players of high enough level and skill could come to aid the new players. Lineage2 had players who litterly CAMPED OUTSIDE THE STARTING TOWN AND MURDERED ANYONE WHO DARED TO LEAVE ITS BOARDERS!!! all day EVERY DAY!! i quit Linage2 after one week of trying, just gave up. IF there WERE punishments, the PKers did not care one whit about them! Earth and Beyond atleast was a MUCH more fair system, as you could just Warp away from any combat. It still sucked that the PKers waited at the exit of major warp nodes. but if you were fast enough, you could target the next one and Warp before you were destroyed. so you HAD a way out! and it did not hinder you too much. WoW I started on a PVP server not knowing it was a pvp server, spent over 2 hours trying to get from darkshore to stormwind to join my equily new low level friends. who were also getting ganked entering westfall. We all moved to a non pvp server after 2 weeks of this crap.
Arch age............ ye gods I though the spawn camping was bad in WoWs pvp , Arch age took Greifing to a whole new level!!! I gave up after a month! Im sure AoC will be no different, Ill give it a try. but if Im constintly hindered by some dick with no life who gets his pleasure by picking on people who have no chance in hell of fighting back. Im sure ill quit that too....
Wtf is a "griffer". Can't wait to camp you in AOC, Carebear.
I have played Albion Online a bit here and there and I too am not a fan of ARPG style games, nor a fan of Mobile games. I have played this on PC and it is a lot easier to do so than on Mobile, but it is still a mobile game, just like Diablo Immortal is (fight me on this nerds.) It could have held me longer if not for 1 fact, you are eventually forced to PvP...constantly. While you are starting off, you are in messing around in zones that are Tier 1, Tier 2, etc. Gathering materials and fighting mobs in these zones are supposed to be a decent-ish challenge for you while wearing gear of the same tier, and that can be done by crafting materials of the relevant tier levels to the tier zone that you are in, sounds pretty standard. The problem starts when you hit mid-tier levels at Tier 4 and Tier 5. This is where you are forced to "level" and gathering in PvP enabled zones. Granted the loot drop on death is extremely minor in these tiers, but you are always forced to expect someone is going to attack you for no reason other than to shove their sword down your throat, no matter if they are far better geared than you or not (much like the old WoW open world PvP in the old PvP servers while you are leveling.) It gets far worse as you progress through to the end game tiered zones where it turns to a full loot PvP experience. Now I'm not against PvP, but when a MMO is nonstop PvP it loses it's fun and becomes more like work than any grindy MMORPG. Much like the failure of Life is Feudal MMO, where they had made the Judgment Hour (where you can declare war on another settlement and be able to break through their walls and destroy their cities and take their loot) an every day thing, instead of once or twice a week. This made the game something you were never allowed to miss a day of play and were forced to PvP with no respite to enjoy the other aspects of the game...ever. The game died after two months because of this, the developers resorted to microtransactions to try to keep themselves afloat, and eventually they shut it down. Albion Online has a good bit of whales still supporting it, which is why they are still running strong, along with their move to add the game to Steam to get new life in the game. I do not see it being around with more than maybe 1,000 daily players in another year.
Waiting for camelot unchained for a pvp mmorpg. Dark Age of Camelot pvp / aka rvr was the best player v player system ever. 20 years later the original servers are still up with massive pvp nightly. So yeah waiting for a sequel
Now to add the small detail that around 30% of albion players are gold sellers and that it takes months to lvl up one gear set that will be viable in 1-2 scenarios and then you go back to levelling the other set for 2 months or so
you dont need months. You can easily get your set leveled up up to 65-75 range in a couple of weeks. I would say you can do it even faster if you are with good party in the black zone dungeon. This is enough to pvp with people. In a month or two you can have 2-3 different sets for different occasions. Dont forget, this is a sandbox MMO. It is designed to play for longer than just couple of months. Dont compare its progression to WoW, FF14 or ESO.
Losing loot from caravans and such is all fine and good but to lose critical armour in a full loot game just isn't fun.
Great video! I think Albion is a great pick for this video.. BDO also indeed deserved there honorable spot in the open world pvp mmo genre - and you might want to take back it is p2w! bcuz it`s not.. Ohh and Star Citizen might also be mentioned for being an potential full loot piracy open space sandbox, Ashes of creation is far behind in that regard, but both are still far away to be done..
Albion, much like Eve Online, much line OSRS - is finding it's far easier to go down the hard-core mobile monetization route than it is appealing to hard-core PvP'ers. That being said, Throne & Liberty or Ashes of Creation are something to look forward to, for the time being Albion is still alright. Assuming you don't try to self-sustain the monthly optional sub through in-game means. Albion's stagflation makes IRL seem tame in comparison
daddy narc
nothing beats RF online in terms of PVP. A 24/7 pvp in all maps except on each the 3 race's HQs. you even have to do PVP to steal exp grind spots from other race.
i can drop my gear if an idiot steals my mob last min? what....? nah that's fkn toxic...
“Demand for pvp mmo is increasing” - well, someone needs to get off the copa colas
So they're making an open world pvp game, that punishes pvp to the extreme......
They're just gonna end up pissing off everyone on both sides
I like contested areas idea it's the best way to get the best of both worlds and everyone gets some of what they want but it should be high risk high rewards.
Those pizza boxes are used?
5 dudes: "We really want pvp mmo"
LOL you gotta stretch n touch your toes once in a while mate
Narc, have you ever played or studied about Tibia? It's an european MMORPG from the 90s that became extremely popular both in Brazil and Poland, here in Brazil absolutely everyone knows about it. This game has been active reaching up to 30.000 concurrent online players for the past 25 years and its biggest foundation is the PvP Full Loot structure. For sure nowadays it became a P2W sh*tfest, but nonetheless still worth understanding the impact it had in those 2 countries MMO audiences because everyone feels like there was never a game to replace the feeling Tibia creates with their PvP inforcement structures within the game.
PvE, but players are part of the environment? What a concept.
this mobile game looking promising
i dont have problem with pvp mmos, as long their pvp only. If you add in pve into the mix and make it so that pve players can be killed, then pve players aren't going to want to play.
This makes no sense. The entire genre was founded on PvP.
Outside of disposing of a player that's on your route taking your herbs/resources, or camping a mob you need to kill.
Why are the upsides of pking in this system? I like open world pvp games. Maybe I'm missing something, but if I choose to pk, and my target doesn't fight back and just dies, do they at least drop some resources or something? Why would anyone engage in pvp if there's no risk to reward ratio and just 100% risk?
That is a very common misunderstanding of the design philosophy of Ashes.
This game is NOT designed for open world pvp to be a common thing, the flagging system exists simply to give players more freedom to act how they want in certain situations where they feel the repercussions are worth it.
The freedom enriches the experience while still preventing it from being abused by having strict punishments in place.
For example, if someone is stealing my farm spot or talking shit to me, I would probably kill them even knowing that it isn't worth it.
Considering how strict the corruption system is, you shouldn't expect to see corrupted players often at all.
For the PvP oriented player base there are a variety of PvP modes that are not a part of the flagging system.
Caravan battles, Guild Wars, Battlegrounds, Arenas for team battles, Dueling, Open Sea Naval Combat, Node Sieges, Node Wars, and Castle Sieges. The Corruption and Bounty Hunter System is a much smaller part of the PvP aspect of Ashes than most realize.
Oh don't worry, even without a reward there is plenty of people who take delight into ruining other people's day to destroy a game!
@@towakin7718 Correct! Camp you in-game!
Watching you cry about it online is all the reward we need.
Most certainly fun gameplay friend again you made an entirely clueless statement. It is definitely most certainly fun gameplay.
Never played in MMORPG not a sandbox survival game but I am I’m RPG that didn’t have some kind of penalty for just randomly picking people and or areas of a game where you can play without fear of that almost every game has zones and you can’t DJ people in those zones and or the penalties for a PK of someone in one of those zones are horrible Doesn’t mean we’re not gonna do it Grace we used to tame dragons which bank and then be an old man line was a chore, all right ultimately not really easy bunkbed gonna be in Choteau, cowboy healers Anna tamer Baylor championship the Tamera lie while he came dragons and deal with any other dragons, feather sided to check out what was going on and it was not easy so trust me when I say taking a dragon to the most populated populated city were people are closing at the bank and releasing. It was costly but funny as hell wouldn’t kill my drawer for people almost instantly before the gaurds showed up
12:00 okay, no, I don't get it. Please, elaborate.
1) "Where -banana- reward?" (C)
1.1) I'm farmer, I farm rare ingredients. I can be ganked. Where's my reward? Is it _Not_ being ganked? As if... I walk outside and not being killed by a stranger is my reward? I mean, sure, with all the civil wars going around the globe and hunger in Africa, mere fact of being save and alive is precious, but... seriously?
1.2) I am bandit. I gank farmers. But those bloody peasants won't fight back so I get corrupted. What's my reward? Resources I can't use or sell or deposit?
1.3) I'm ruthless barbarian, I love kill and destroy, and I do kill and destroy. I fear no death nor corruption. I am corruption itself. Bane of the libing.............
...........
I got banned for griefing.
How this is going to work?
Steven did spent a lot of time explaining and explained nothing.
This is why I value examples more than skin showcases. I don't care about skins as long as I'm struggling to understand how the basics of this game is going to work.
PS. I do love open world PvP. The best Fallout 76 had was survival mode, but instead of fixing it they traded it for yet another battle royale. Refreshing (not).
World of Warcraft early days PvP was cool. Pointless at first glance, frustrating at times, but cool nonetheless. It was setting the mood. It WAS world of WAR craft, not snugging dragons nonbinary crossfaction bs.
Every time I gank a player in MMO's I'm overwhelmed by an unimaginable sense of euphoria that could not be replicated in the "real" world. The greater the gap in power, the more intense the feeling. I tend to gravitate towards classes with in built stealth (rogues/thieves etc) as these classes allow me to tap into my primal instincts and become the true predator lurking in the shadows, stalking my oblivious prey. When it comes to the act, timing is of the utmost importance. Any schmo can gank on sight... but the true ganker aficionado is patient. I prefer to bide my time. Waiting until the prey has gathered a decent chunk of materials and is returning home or is just about to reach a checkpoint in a quest. Ganking at these critical moments often compels the prey to send me rage fuelled messages which I then screenshot and add to my collection for future printing.
i too, like to play my MMOs like serial killer simulators. half the fun is in choosing my victim then stalking them in game while they farm and gank them at the perfect moment. absolute joy!
Even if this isn't a joke, it's funny XD
Using survival games is not a real measurement, as if you look at any survival game you'll find as many if not more PvE servers over PvP. If the PvP allows any sort of griefing the game will fail, most people who gets griefed just stop playing.
This. I have a lot of friends who play Rust and Ark. And not a single one of them plays it as a PvP but a solely PvE experience. Yes, thats annecdotal evidence but using the metric without knowing how many players actually engage in PvP seem odd. What if the whole surge came from the PvE crowd being bored by other PvE type games/MMOs?
Shit I never here any ask for a pvp MMO everyone I talk to and the many groups are part of dislike a MMO that based around pvp or that you can't opt out of pvp to play a game.
If a game wants to make big bucks they need both severs pvp and none pvp
I do wonder how many of those 115k would be playing Albion if it was $10 a month sub fee
As I see it, going on their website, it's 14,95$, and from the comment I read right after yours, you're kinda fucked if you don't get it. No idea if any of that is true though, never played it myself.
Gee this so-called demand for a PvP MMO, has nothing to do with you promoting said very PvP MMO?
Hey @Narc ! What about a new form of videos to compensate with the lack of new material available? (while still doing your same current style once or twice a month after the stream ;) )
If gear can't be looted or become unusable through durability, then the price of gear will suffer from deflation.
Gear can be looted, from corrupted players only
And gear does deteriorate from durability :)
Completely agree with the points you are making here.
As for the toxic design, it extends to other genres such as MOBAS like LoL.
Top comment on steam:
Albion used to be a good game. In the past you got a free 3 day premium and used to be able to grind 10 million silver in that time frame to another month. solo dungeons and other content were actually profitable enough to supply your premium and actual enjoyment to the game... at this point don't play it if you are trying to be free to play. it is almost, if not impossible to farm premium with a month of premium. last thing i want to do is spend a whole month grinding just to afford the next months premium status. it isnt worth it. the only other way to play the game is if you are ok with being forced to pay real money to get premium... now i know what you might be thinking.. " i can probably play without premium" i thought that too. it makes the game sooo grind and when i open up chest i never see an item.. i just see runes. and maybe if im lucky an item the gives me 10,000 silver. if it sells. dungeons are long. you can complete 1 about every 20-30 mins with fodder gear (if you dont want to die and lose wayyyyy more than you can possibly gain)
at this time the devs want you to empty you pockets. so they nerfed the hell out of silver and drops in general. and raised the gold/silver amount to buy premium.. at this point i dont see the old albion that used to be. it's just a money grabbing company now
I stopped playing Albion because the combat and general gameplay was boring to me. But I have to admit, it has the best economy systems out of every MMO I've played
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Some videos back you said Albion Online was a terrible mobile game on life support
it is a terrible mobile game, but according to these numbers... the mobile gamers seem to be keeping it funded with their swiping