NBA: Is LeBron James already a first ballot hall-of-famer?
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2012
- Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless discuss Reggie Miller's comments that LeBron James is already a first ballot Hall-of-Famer. Watch more videos like this at www.espnamerica.com
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Thanks for recommending this 7 years late.
Skip still hating
Really though. It's June 6th 2019 and I'm just now seeing this segment for the first time LOL
Facts fuck skip
Exactly lol.
Mitchell Carpenter 7 years for me too lol
8 straight finals later
With 6 losses
6 Loses and Lefraud will never be int he finals again sucka
Naturalborn Solider remember this
TheBestFighter were just fans of the man, LeBron haters and the people calling him LeChoke or childish nicknames are the real bron sexuals 😂 were just watching y’all riding his meat always tryna hate just wait till next year
TheBestFighter WTF kind of troll are you ? You are just strolling old videos hating ? LeBron is and has been a HOF for ten years , as well as a top five player ever ....
The fact that he was a first ballot hof contender years ago and he’s still playing at an elite level a decade later is crazy
We will never see it again
@@traepatterson351 you idiots swear these basketball stars are not human. they grow old just like every other pleb you regard. replace the g with a t please.
Legend has it, skip still doesn't think LeBron James is a hall of famer.
He isn’t
1ZosoLZ bum
Jerrod Rabenbauer technology it’s true
Toxic Gaming lebron will be a hall of famer but he’s not in the hall of fame right now
Jay Loss loss leading the nba in assist at 36 3 rd all time in scoring four mvps 7 all time in assist as a small forward shut up full he is
I love watching these old videos and knowing that LeBron got 3 rings
And 5 losses lol
NoLimit Beats lol damn
and 8 finals appearances
NoLimit Beats yeah teammates don't show up unfortunately. Averages triple double in the 17 finals and still loses.
Most NBA players NEVER make it to the Finals and here you blaming Lebron for leading his teams to the Finals. Really stupid argument.
If you win more than one MVP you are pretty much a lock for a first ballot HOF
Christopher Davis Warriors are the BEST!
Christopher Davis Im sorry then
shut up
The dude said sorry lmao
WH15P3R3R lol
Your telling me a 21 year old lebron with no help is sapposed to beat the 07 spurs tf
Got swept didnt even win 1 game at least ai vs kobe and shaq won 1 game
@@paulayoliver5521 ai had way more help LeBron's best teammate was a young mo Williams ai had Eric snow and mutumbo
@@ahdiboomspaperwork4526 eric snow is = to mo will and mutombo was old old vs shaq and kobe tho
The spurs were a better team than that Lakers squad from top to bottom as well
Paulay Oliver ai has dpoy 6 man of the year and coach of the year he just didn’t have any offensive help
Its amazing how Skip made a career out of criticizing LeBron. For a whole decade now, Skip has been living off of that man's failures. It's honestly quite amazing.
its sad, what a pathetic existence
Thats not true he also dickrides Brady
**pathetic. Those who can do, and those who can’t give hot takes about those who can. He’s a parasite
I almost turned it off when Skip said Tiago Splitter
It was a joke
@@greatest599 - no...it wasn't. That's just how fucked up Skip is when the person's name is LeBron James
Obadiah Tucker he’s a troll dude lmaooo don’t take him so literally
@Obadiah Tucker in all fairness he just said Tiago to demonstrate that the NBA hall of fame has low standards
@@greatest599 I know lol
"A triple double is pathetic?!?! You're making no sense!!!"😂😂😂😂
Nathaniel Register then rides Westbrook’s balls
it's impressive but doesn't impact on winning titles
tubenachos he’s a 3x champion
tubenachos depends on your play.. triple doubles for LeBron are more valuable than Westbrook
Nathaniel Register tbh skip was actually right I watched that game 6 he had 9 turnovers to go along with his triple double . Yeahh his numbers were good but it didn't nearly have the impact SAS trying to say it did .. if yu actually that game then yk his triple double actually tell the whole story
4 Rings
4 FMVPs
10 Finals appearances
34k points
9.4k rebounds
9.4k assists
All-star selections are subjective, All-NBA/All-defensive selections are objective. When LeBron had 1 All-NBA teammate on his roster, he won the Finals (2012, 2013, 2016, 2020). LeBron never had an All-defensive teammate until Anthony Davis.
I agree with the numbers but you going back to current even vs at the time of the debate. To different argument.. he's a first ballot but Skip judge LeBron on MJ level.
now 37k points
10k assists
10k rebounds
🐐 James
Wade was all defense
4/10 in the finals shouldn’t be an accolade lol
Who’s watching these videos 3 rings later & now that Skip is on fs1
LeBron is still trash
Let’s Smoke Foo are you skip child
Anthony 2b Channel 6 yeah tell me someone that was healthy and showed up on Cleveland
@@BigRed6171 Your momma should smack you and take your allowance for 6 years.
Obadiah Tucker your name is Obadiah
Lebron was a Hall Of Famer even before he left Cleveland.. He was a Hall Of famer after his 6th year... No debate about it.. He was a top 20 player all time after his six season
now in 2017 people are saying he is better than MJ
ROLANDA B People are projecting what Lebron's career could be based on how talented he is. MJ didnt have his second 3-peat until his 30s which is where Lebron is at now. It's possible but overcoming the healthy Western Conference contenders would be a hell of a lot more challenging than the teams the Bulls had to face in their second 3 peat.
Lmfao fuck no, he wasn't top 20 until about 2012
Mind Elevation r u on crack? He wasn't a top 25 all time player until his second championship, now, he's fighting for a top 5 spot, but all this drama rn with Cleveland isn't helping his case.
Andrew Blackop
top 10 defensive player, top 4 offensive player all time
Stephen A: How can anyone even debate that he's a first ballot Hall of Famer?
Skip: Hold my beer.
Brian Sager he is still not a hof 3-6
123Kobemvp Are you on something?
123KOBEMVP hey pass me some of that whatever you're smoking
guys his name is KOBEMVP ofc hes gonna say something retarded about LeBron
Dubs, King 75 I wouldn’t.. it might be laced with something
7 years later? Lol. Thanks RUclips Gods!
I can’t believe Skip actually said the phrase “just a 3 time MVP” ...
Skip Bayless should be ashamed of himself with his arguments against Lebron James
Skip then, before,still makes no sense whatsoever!
Here we go again. Skip is the most ignorant man in sports analysis history.
@Tom Spencer 😂😂😂
Skip is just really biased, he even hates Kobe. He's just a Jordan jocker and anyone being compared to Jordan is already garbage at basketball.
@Tom Spencer thats accurate af 😂😂😂
People of the past.. there is someone named Ryan Hollins.
Palrath1 nah skip use to vouch for Kobe maybe recent years in his decline he would critique him but for the most part he thought Kobe was the best in the nba till like 2012
The fact that this was a topic 7 years ago shows how great he really is
10 years ago now
Shows how long Skip been on his dick
11
Who’s here in 2019 just laughing
me.
lmaoooo
Meeeee this shit to funny 😂😂😂😂
Dontrell Kelley Lmfaoo on me
ruben rocha I’m laughing at how stupid skip is lol he a hater
Skip sucks
I busted out laughing when skip starting talking lol
TIAGO SPLITTER
10 years later Now he’s a 4 time champ and 4 time Finals MVP,4 time seasons MVP,19 All Star appearance,averaged a triple Double in the Finals,carried the 2007 Cavs to the Finals with no other All Star,Beat a Pistons team in the playoffs that shut Down Kobe and Shaq in Finals,3-1 Comeback in The Finals against a great Warriors team that Went 73-9 + chase down block,about to Pass Kareem on the scoring list and Still the best player on his team in year 20. What a career
Anthony Davis is the best player on the team since 2021
@@Marcus-ge5lwhe should be😂😂
@@Marcus-ge5lw This is such a hater, cope take. AD has never been, at any point, better than bron on the lakers and theres literally no reason to suggest so.
Skip doesn’t defend LeBron for losing to the San Antonio Spurs because he thinks they are old and not the same team but he gives Jordan all the praise for beating the Pistons who WERE OLD
Great take my friend
Skip is clearly nuts here but it’s a myth Pistons were old. They were just done and the Bulls finally were able to match them mentally and physically. Isiah was 29, Dumars was 27, Rodman was 29, Laimbeer was 31, Aguirre was 31, and Sally was 26.
@@svz-pc2pb in the peak of there prime for most of them
Jordan wasn't winning before Pippen got there. And he conveniently retired when he saw Kobe and the Lakers coming. That's facts.
Bron had rings in 3 decades. Case closed.
I miss Stephen A calling out Skip on all the blasphemy 😂
2012: "Averaging 27-7-7 over a career are god-like numbers. Undoubtedly a first-ballot HOFer"
2023: *Averages 29-8-7 over 20 seasons, and gets 4 rings and FMVPs in the meantime*
29,9,8 u round the numbers up
@@Rod_Dav36 I'm not rounding up a 7.3 assists. Statistically speaking, a 7.3 average is saying, "On any given night, you can expect 7 assists, but 30% of the time, he'll get 8 assists." Therefore, he usually gets 7. If it were 7.6 or something, I'd agree with you.
4 rings, 4 mvps, 4 finals mvps, and this clown still on tv hating his greatness
When you’re that good, you can’t be overrated so they spend all their time trying to underrate you
Skip speaks the truth. You Lebron cult members are delusional
@@FlexSZN23 glad you’re so in support of a known controversy baiting fuckhead. He literally published a book in the 90s and in it claimed that the Cowboys’ quarterback was gay. It was untrue and unfounded, and he simply did this to further his own career with no regard for anyone else. Recently he said, after Dak Prescott lost his mother to COVID and was talking about his depression, that he has no sympathy for him and he isn’t allowed to be affected by that. Skip is a deplorable human being and anyone with any common sense knows he’s nothing more than a man who will stop at nothing, not controversy, not immorality, not ruining other people’s lives, to reach an audience and get paid. So tell me again how this man “speaks the truth”?
7 years later... 8 straight finals, didn’t miss playoffs from 2005-2019, comes back from 3-1 lead to where KD was needed to stop him, 3 rings 4 mvps, and now in MVP conversation at 35 yrs old. Is he 1st ballot hall of fame now Skip?
djrowe 021305 I hear you. But this video was talking about LeBrons performance before any of that. You can’t blame Skip for being unable to predict the future..
Shawn Smith I understand what your saying, but then Cleveland wasn’t doing anything to help LeBron out. Now he should’ve won that series against Dallas, but he was getting used to his new teammates and team.
@@djrowe-bl3xn 6 L
@@gianmagrine3947 So you expect LeBron to beat that spurs team in 2007 with no help , the warriors in 2015 with no help, and another warriors team with KD on the roster in 2017-2018? Thats 4 nba finals that there was no chance of him winning
Still an overrated bum
You could cut LeBron's career in half, and you'd have 2 1st ballot Hall of Famers
back when first take was watchable
bro right??
Anthony Tinaj your ass didn’t even watch first take back in that time 😂
not really, skip still being a dumbass
“Don’t do that Skip don’t do that” - Shannon Sharpe Voice.
27p 19r 10a is pathetic according to skip.
At least 9 years later he’s consistent even to this day lol
Don’t leave out 9 turnovers
@@rasharbanks1392 happens to the best of the nba's players 🤷♂
@@talal3c any other player would get killed for that but cuz it’s lebron it gets excused
@@rasharbanks1392 bro what everyone gets on his case for high turnover games.. like they do for every top star no one gets excused idk what you're talkin ab..
Lebron lives rent free in your house
2019 in this bih , i miss these niggaz together
I know skip is trolling but my god it’s gets under my skin so badly
Same
Skip has been bugging out for years now 😂
“You’re saying he’s a first ballot Hall-of-Famer just because he’s about to be a three-time MVP???” LMFAOOOOOO
I love how skip tried to criticize LeBron in the 2009 ECF against Orlando when bruh averaged 38/8/8 58 TS. Dude was worse than he us now😂😂😭🤦♂️
Game 6? He shot 8/20 only had 25pts.
Lebron was held to the standards of the greatest players ever from the moment he was drafted and is STILL playing at an all time elite level, carving out his GOAT statue.
Yes, he is first ballot.
hazmat1000 he is still not a hof 3-6
123KOBEMVP ur an idiot
@@123KOBEMVP you're fuckin stupid
@Michael '1st round exit' Jordan stfu
@Michael '1st round exit' Jordan bruh😂
Skip is such a troll, but he's so entertaining
3 time MVP automatically makes him 1st ballot lmao. Look at Bron now
Before Stephen A was salty that LeBron called him out lol
The fact that he's already a first ballot hof player 12-10 years ago is nuts. Look at Bron now, c'mon man his career is one of the best.
LeBron is more than a first ballot HOF’er. Even back then he was and now he is damn near the GOAT 🐐
Thanks for recommending this 10 years later.
he's got two rings now. even before that. he was a first-ballot hall of famer
inyourfacevideos96 three rings
4
3 rings and a bubble guppies Mickey Mouse blow pop ring
@@kohsmoger1567it’s 4
Skip Bayless' Job Description: Hate on LeBron James or you're fired...
These two will never not be hilarious together. 😂😂😂😂
Skip is the only man in media who can call a triple double performance pathetic and keep his job
Lol he did not keep this job segments like this are why he was let go from espn and work for FS1 the mans a joke
@@vibangigan5336 He wanted to leave.
This is how these debate shows work.. you guys really want them to both say "Yup we agree, end of discussion" that'll bring in ratings.
Without the Win It is
@@vibangigan5336 he wasn't let go. They wanted to keep him but he left for more money
for me, the greatest players ever are jordan, kareem and lebron (maybe magic too). the reason is because this: these are probably the only three players in history who could win a scoring title and also win defensive player of the year in the same season. jordan already did it, not sure about kareem, but lebron could easily do it. i think when you look at overall talent, lebron is probably the greatest we have ever seen. i dont put him above jordan, but in terms of being able to PLAY BASKETBALL.... nobody can do that better than lebron james. he is basically a mould of magic, dr j and michael jordan... probably the three most iconic figures in nba history. michael jordan is the greatest basketballer who has and probably will ever live, but lebron is the most rounded player the game has ever seen, its that simple. hes arguably the greatest athlete in the history of sports, can shoot with the best (when hes on), a good rebounder, exceptional passer, unbelievable defender (1-5), now hes becoming a great closer... there is honestly not a single facet of his game that you can say is poor. thats why i put him on the level of michael, kareem and magic. i dont know, maybe hes not above any of them.... but you cant deny that he is probably the most talented ever
whoryare he is 3-6 he is not a hof
@@123KOBEMVP stfu loser
He has the worse defensive rating in the league so,no bron cannot do that, he's never won DPOY b4
@@Kingtruther he was a runner up in 2013 to marc gasol and shouldve won it that year but he was robbed of it and thats facts look it up
Diego Bros LeBron is a 6x all-defensive team member(5x 1st team), and was runner up for DPOY twice. shut the hell up.
I love Skip so much. He's a capper and he knows it
He is a Jagoff
Skip made a career off of trolling lol
he was waiting to bring the 9 turnovers at the end lmao
@@NoName-le5oz lmao facts
8 years later... the 🐐 of basketball
These old Stephen A/Skip Bayless debates are nostalgic🔥
Imao being recommended this stuff after lebron getting his 4th finals mvp 🤣😂skip bayless looks hilarious
2021 man take me back.
Thanks for recommending this 10 years later
“just because he’s a 3 time mvp” lmao skip was crazy then crazier now
The Hate was strong 💪 in this one ☝️ lol 😂
Most MVPs by an active player
Bron -4
Joxic - 2
Giannis - 2
Curry - 2
Skip would tell you bron was a let down for missing a layup before halftime in a game when he dropped 60 20 20
Thanks for recommending this 10 years late.
Get Steven and skip back together. Classic and heated debates.
James was 22 in 2007 finals, what was Jordan doing at the age of 22?
That's a really stupid fucking question. Lol
LOL cause Jordan was a loser at age 22.
His rookie season Jordan was 22. Idk what you're trying to prove here. You look really fuckin stupid, kid.
He can't even take his college team to the final, period
6 time Finals MVP, 10 time scoring champion, defensive player of the year. That's all that's gotta be said. You're a fucking moron I swear.
35,000 Points (3rd all time) #8 in assists all time, and #15 all time in steals, not to mention 4 League MVPs and 4 NBA Finals MVPs. He is going to finish his career with 40,000 points 12,000 assists 12,000 rebounds 2,400 steals and 1,000+ blocks. If those aren't hall of fame numbers then I don't what is.
Its 2021 and I'm watching a full archive of old First Take Nba segments.
This video here is proof that skip has been hating on lebron for almost 2 decades 🤣🤣🤣
ARE PEOPLE REALLY TRYING TO ARGUE IF HES A HALL OF FAMER?!?!?!?!?!?!? HES TOP 5 GREATEST OF ALL TIME AND THESE 2 ARE ARGUING ABOUT THIS IDIOCY???
To be fair, this was many, many years ago and before he even won his first championship. Although, even then it wasn't really a very sound debate either.
+Alexis Snyder let's be honest... It was skip that wanted this debate because he is so much of a hater. That debate would be invalid even in 2008.
this is over 4yrs old lmao
top 3 all time
Yugo Gugo This is when he first won I think.. but today he definitely is
I remember watching this on tv almost a decade ago. A lot has happened since then…..
I love coming back to these old first take clips. Stephen a smith is absolutely hilarious when he goes off on skip.
This part is just gold 4:30 🤣
Skip Bayless gets referred to as an analyst, he is NOT an analyst because of his blatant and obvious bias.
You're exactly right. Skip gave LeBron very little credit for winning his 1st ring outside of a slow and deliberate clap that was oozing with sarcasm. LeBron put up one of the dominant performances in NBA history throughout the entire playoffs. Hollinger of ESPN ranks it as one of the top 5 playoff runs of all-time, yet Skip still tried to give D-Wade and the role players the credit for beating OKC. Skip even credited himself by saying that LeBron won his ring b/c he finally listened to him.
There must be a reason why this is recommended to be after 10 long years
8 years later and he’s making the finals w the lakers
Yessir
Already won it😂😂
Skip doesnt talk this much shit now that LBJ has 2 championships. What the hell is he going to say?
this segment was back in May 2012..a month before he won his first title..Duh
Lawnie08 I know dumbass.. this is why I said he doesn't talk this much shit now.
+Aomine and Lebron still fucking sucks, LeChoke year after year
+Cameron Hardy just stfu now please thanks Dumass
yeah dumass
I love how RUclips recommends this to me 7 years later
Here before it's in everyone's recommended after 8 years
someone please punch skip!
Yea because hes honest and uses facts. how dare him
thebigeasy92 nigga STFU!!!
Skip is just a ugly looking think that doesn’t know any thing bout sports
thebigeasy92 L
yogi if u punch skiup yes skiup then Stephen a gets killed
Anyone who says LeBron isn't a lock for the hall of fame is just a hater. its that simple. He is a LOCK
He’s been a lock 😂
This was peak Skip Bayless hating era 😂
Thank you for recommending this 8 years later on Christmas Eve 😂😂
Damn skip been on the drugs for a long time long time
This narcissist has made millions with this buffoonery. Only in Amerikkk.
Its been 9 years and the only new material Skip added is;
Ray Allen saved LeBrons legacy
Bicycle built for 2
Guy gets played $8 million a year to recite lines he made up a decade ago. Must be nice.
Thanks for recommending it after 9 years
Update: 4 MVPs and 3 rings and on his way to another one. #GOAT
KingRo Adventures faxx
KingRo Adventures warriors in 5 bro #3-5
Barry Bowser 2nf of all time child
Barry Bowser - The Warriors were better than the Cavs before they even got Kevin Durant. Without Durant, the Warriors would have lost last season. But there is no way for the Cavs to beat the Warriors with Durant on that team, unless the Cavs get a Player of Durant's caliber.
Yup still on his way
Remind me after 5 years if he would be on his way
8 years later, me knowing LeBron has 4 rings :)
The Mickey Mouse ring is a ring? Lol 😆
Ummm yess 🤔 & I don't even like the Lakers at all...🤷♂️🤦♂️😂😂
Can’t believe this was 10 years ago
4 finals wins, 10 finals appearances, 8 finals in a row, greatest peak of all time since this came out lol. Watching peak Miami Lebron play is like watching an unstoppable force run through walls.
lol with a chance to get a 5th ring this year.
Durant mopping the floor with his crusty old ass. And the bubble guppies Mickey Mouse blow pop ring don’t count.
@LouderWithCrowder Two 9 months ago fam before I even saw them.
@LouderWithCrowder Two I had my doubts before the season they just turned out way worse than I expected tbh
Lebron at miami should have been 4 straight championships.
Skip Bayless' Iq is probably less than my dog.
I learned long time ago that no matter what u do some ppl just aren't impressed. They would talk bad about u whenever they can a will never offer congrats without trepidation.
If lebrons career consisted of 7 games vs the warriors to come back down 3-1 against the greatest regular season team ever he would be a first ballot hall of fane
More I’ve watched of Stephen a smith- he may be arrogant but he’s pretty spot on with most takes
Love watching this when he’s easily top 2 ever and maybe the goat and there’s not even a question
What are you even talking about?
Griffin Money not even top 20 needs too much help
@@orvillewright122 ya had no problem with Jordan playing with 2 top 50 played but when lebron has help it’s a problem huh interesting 🤔 carry on
@@orvillewright122 your delusional
Only top 50 player Jordan played with is pippin. I know skip is delusional but you bron fans are sometimes just as bad.
Can someone edit this with the baby faces 😂😂
How does skip come up with these names Chosen One Turn Into Frozen One lmao
Skip Bayless has unreal comebacks
Well 4 Championships later, 4 Finals MVPs later, 2 MVPs and 22k points later idk if he is a first ballot HOFer
Yea but he definitely not top 2 unless he wins 2 more championships and doesn’t have a 4-6 finals record
@@NebyouSolomon-ek7fyStop it he already is top 2 if not the greatest he doesn't need 2 more rings when you break as records as you do.
@@w_out7631 he is not top 2 he has a 4-6 finals record and the most turnovers in NBA history lebron scoring is due to longevity and the fact he spends so much money on his body lebron and lebron is 7-28 for go ahead shots to win the game so he’s not clutch
Thanks for recommending this 8 years later 😂
This didn’t age well for Skip…
OMG 10 yrs later he’s still playing
Just now getting this recommended to me in 2020.
4 championships later and considered by some the greatest skip you are the best anaylist of all time
By 09-10 he was a top 20 player Alltime . He finished his 6th and 7th year
By 2013 LeBron was top 5 , by 2016 he was number 2. LeBron rn is the Greatest all around player ever
That's not the same as being the goat. And even then Jordan is a better shooter, scorer, and defender.
Jordan better shooter than lebron?
@@strongbone9471 I do believe Jordan is a greater player than lebron, but he’s not a better shooter
Number two to who?