Oh my God! My Man! - How did you manage to turn a mechanical bull into an ejection seat? How much was the divorce?!?!? This is the funniest thing on You Tube!!! That took a lot of tenacity for sure. Well done dude. OMG - you made my day.
Congratulations! We are 4 friends having the idea to start build something like that... Your project is the best we found, and very close to our plans and ideas, although there are significant differencies.
It is a kind of ;-) No chance to take when you develop motion platform software! This handle and my Emergency Stop button are my security device. I used it once when I had a software bug. I experienced what a cow bow is, doing rodeo festival.
The test modes looked violent and scary, but once you were up and running in a sim, it all seemed to come together smoothly. Great effort Michel, cant wait till someone produces a commercial product that doesn't cost as much as a car.
Absolutely amazing what one person with a vision can accomplish on a realistic budget. Everyone should check out his webpage it’s more in detail on how to build this unit. Great job! I guess it’s time to buy another Arduino Mega 2560 board.
That shows a tremendous amount of effort made. No ordinary brain can make that. Hats off. Some points: a helmet, a seat belt & some cushions on floor in case anything went wrong. Last point; you'll struggle if you want to move it out of the room 😁
You have nice and smooth quiet movements but 10 times more than what you need .It doesnt take much to fool the brain.My sim I had to reduce the movemnt from 18 " travel to less than 9"
You are absolutely right and thanks for your comments. My motion control software has been improved to support 2 modes since this video publication. 1st mode replicates roll accel and 2nd replicates roll position/speed. With open sky cockpit, I prefer 2nd mode. It’s also confusing to see the room moving while aircraft still tilted. Eventually with enclosed cockpit, I’ll switch to roll accel. Now I concentrate on functional cockpit before the enclosed one. See my Web Page for progress.
Awesome engineering! I've always said the nice thing about flight simulators is every landing is a good landing because you can always walk away. Not sure that's true anymore. :)
John, I commend you on your efforts. I have the same Saitek controls and more. I have two monitors in front and one on each side. I am considering building a motion platform with an enclosed cockpit to simulate IFR conditions. Can you direct me where to go and get the information on getting started? It must have been a blast when you first experienced this at home.
Wow you should really streamline this and start selling it to people, I know for one i would be interested if it is not really expensive ! Great work !
Hi ! I noticed that when you are established in a continuous (supposedly coordinated) turn, the platform keeps on being banked. This is not correct: the platform shouldn't replicate the bank of the airplane, but the direction of the apparent weight. That means that as soon as you're established in the turn, the platform should not be banked, as there is no lateral component of the apparent weight.
Awesome man!!!! That is unreal, there aren't too many "general" people in this world that could do this at home...IMPRESSIVE!!! Next step would be to place it on cylinders so it would be smoother, Im sure that would be NO PROBLEM for you though. You could sale that thing to all sorts of aviaiton enthusiasts. NICE!!!
Nice work, that's pretty intuitive. As for weight restrictions, all that wood looks heavy have you not thought about aluminum framing to reduce weight?
@@Project4DOF I just checked it out. Now that what I'm talking about. Clearly you're a smart guy, but was this pretty easy to set up? Something that the average person could do? I would love to add full motion to my sim set up but all of the commercial home stuff for sale is unreal priced. Have you thought about selling your concept?
Looks like a lot of fun, and I'll give it a "Plus 2" for immersion factor! That said, if I build one to do any type of aerobatic or ACM, I'd definitely want a sturdier seat plus lap (& possibly shoulder) harness. All told though, it looks great fit bug smashers & bus drivers.. The next obvious step is to gimbal that bad boy for inverted flight! (You'll REALLY want the harness then,lol) Meantime, a few pieces of quarter-round will keep that mouse from falling off.. Overall? Sierra Hotel!
You need to make friends with a welder or someone with a metal works or machine shop. What you have built is pretty amazing and the wood certainly keeps the cost down and is a very forgiving material. But now that you have the kinks worked out and have finish dimensions to work with, you should definitely put it all in a welded aluminum frame. At least that's why I'd do if I had your $$ and smarts !
Hi Michel, I visited your website and realized you did a lot of work on this project. I'm wondering if it is possible to hook up this system with a 6 degree of freedom platform. I want to make the platform myself and since I'm mechanical engineer and doesn't know much about electrical stuff, I wanted to make sure I have other instructions for electrical part of it . appreciate your feed back.
Greet work! Low and Highfilters are still someething new for many DIY Motion Sim builders and Coders. Also coding the motion software is not done by many. I wonder if this 3DOF still works?
nachbarin69 Yes exactly, the motors and driver were selected to be low cost. In order to remain in that power range, I need to respect the weight budget and I prefer to add Equipment on the front (cockpit) instead of underneat and my back.
Nice job. My thoughts are that these Stewart Platform flight simulators take direct inputs from the control stick device making quick and accurate positioning of the platform based on this however the sim package may dampen these control inputs to more closely relate to the responsiveness of the aircraft or vehicle being operated. This is why it may seem that the aircraft in the sim is laggy in turning yet the 3DOF platform banks quickly based on stick input? Is this correct thinking? Not that is incorrect or any less entertaining to operate. I've seen some platform demos for race car games and it looks to be very drastic movement of the platform no where near what an actual drive would expect in an actual car unless he was almost on two wheels about to roll over! I suspect the platform don't take into account any over swear and just keeps banking the platform to its limits as to where an actual vehicle has a lot of vehicle weight to compensate oversteer resulting in other dynamics such as loss of traction inducing skids and such... Nice work none the less, there is a lot of work to pulling this level of project off, much respect!
nice work, i've been pondering building something like this for a while, i'm sure it would be a fun project to build one. but what is your impression about actually using it? does it enhance your flighing experience? does it make you feel motion sick? do you still use it and prefer it vs. sitting in a normal comfy chair?
***** Since I made this video you have seen, I improve the motion Platform software to better reproduce lateral accelerations by developing the Motion Cues with Washout Filters Algorithm. I also added a Triple LCD Display for Eyefinity / Surround Viewing. (See my web pages) With both add-ons, it enhances a lot the flight experience. I really appreciate the feeling of landing, braking and takeoff. The roll is more appreciated with small aircraft. It does not make me feel sick. I wish to make it enclosed but I am scared there is not enough room, the basement ceiling is too low. Thanks for writing.
Thunderous applause! If only we lived in a world in which you wouldn't be held liable for or judged for the inevitable injury to someone or yourself. In the realm of the exceptional, sooner or later, shit happens. Did you have any ardent Nay-Sayers? Off to see how this has progressed! Thank you for having way too much time on your hands!
ditto on the wood. At first, I thought; "why wood? where is the steal?" then as the video panned all the parts, my reaction changed to "wow, that's some nice work."
WOW!! i would never thourght of using a plastic garden chair for a flight sim seat. but i guess that it works. But this motion latform could really use a Recaro bucket seat and an 8 point harness XD
What engines did you use? I'm manufacturing one for cars ... It's still all in the beginning and I'm looking for the information first ..could you give it to me?
Good job!, i admire youre motion plataform (sorry my english), thats it´s nice. For now, i´m complete my DIY rudder perdals, but in the future, i wanna go for a trim sistem whit the tree potenciometers without use of the old joystick. Have a good day!
Excellent. Glad you added the FA 18 bit at the end. We all want to know how that is :). Any chance you could try a carrier landing? Better get a crash helmet first though!
I don't understand why all these flightsimmers set the roll of the platform to the roll of the aircraft and not the balance ball. If you are in a balanced turn, the platform should remain level since that's what you'll experience in a real airplane
I think you're sending raw angle information and translate them directly for the motors drivers, you should add some dampening calculations to your software because it looks jerky, nevertheless Great project!
My hat is off to you, good job. I know you have much more to do, no lol from me. I couldn't come close to building something like that. Did you design it yourself, or did you find plans on the internet. At any rate, very cool. It kind of reminds me of the mechanical bulls that people ride at bars. Be careful and don't let it throw you.
You need a racing harness not a seat belt, that is one rough ride. It would interesting to see how the rig would hold up on a roller coaster simulator. I just keep thinking "eject, eject" in that plastic lawn chair.
you should look up a old simultor called "rock'n'ride" much cleaner design be a good basis to start with also a simple solution to wood is unistrut homedepot has their own cheap version you can buy east to assemble and insanely strong
As awesome as that is, how hard would it be to program it to read/angle off of the joystick/throttle axis data directly? Might not be as accurate but it should be 'close enough', and it would work with any sim/game that way. Or can windows only send joystick data to 1 program at a time?
Thanks for comments. What you wrote is partly true. My motion control software has been improved since this video publication in order to mimic accelerations instead of aircraft movement. Nevertheless, platform physical limitations limits the platform ability to simulate high acceleration. See my Web Site (Page 6) for rational. Do a google search for FlightSim_Motion_Platform/washout_filters
Great work!!!! Congrats!!! I think you're in my area I live in Montreal and do alot of FSX, how much do you sell your project? If you do sell it. I've been looking to build one but it's really not my domain and I'm not good with electronics. Again Congrats Ronnie
The garden chair sells it. I wouldn't change a thing except stain it a nice walnut. F...in' epic.
Nice job.
Oh my God! My Man! - How did you manage to turn a mechanical bull into an ejection seat? How much was the divorce?!?!? This is the funniest thing on You Tube!!! That took a lot of tenacity for sure. Well done dude. OMG - you made my day.
I'm always amazed at these super genius guys who don't know how to weld.
Congratulations! We are 4 friends having the idea to start build something like that... Your project is the best we found, and very close to our plans and ideas, although there are significant differencies.
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great work! i have two comments...
1. you need a seatbelt :)
2. have you tried incorporating the Oculus Rift?
It is a kind of ;-) No chance to take when you develop motion platform software!
This handle and my Emergency Stop button are my security device.
I used it once when I had a software bug. I experienced what a cow bow is, doing rodeo festival.
Amazing work! Respect! But that chair.... rofl!!
The test modes looked violent and scary, but once you were up and running in a sim, it all seemed to come together smoothly. Great effort Michel, cant wait till someone produces a commercial product that doesn't cost as much as a car.
Absolutely amazing what one person with a vision can accomplish on a realistic budget. Everyone should check out his webpage it’s more in detail on how to build this unit. Great job! I guess it’s time to buy another Arduino Mega 2560 board.
Amazingly Genious !!!! A Job Well Done Sir, hats off to what you have done here ...
That shows a tremendous amount of effort made. No ordinary brain can make that. Hats off.
Some points: a helmet, a seat belt & some cushions on floor in case anything went wrong.
Last point; you'll struggle if you want to move it out of the room 😁
He needs a seat belt lol
You have nice and smooth quiet movements but 10 times more than what you need .It doesnt take much to fool the brain.My sim I had to reduce the movemnt from 18 " travel to less than 9"
Brilliant... This is cool DIY engineering. You should start a kickstarter.
Very nice build. Some serious ingenuity going on there
The day i would put that in our house, that would be the day my wife leaves me...😄
You are absolutely right and thanks for your comments. My motion control software has been improved to support 2 modes since this video publication. 1st mode replicates roll accel and 2nd replicates roll position/speed. With open sky cockpit, I prefer 2nd mode. It’s also confusing to see the room moving while aircraft still tilted. Eventually with enclosed cockpit, I’ll switch to roll accel. Now I concentrate on functional cockpit before the enclosed one. See my Web Page for progress.
Awesome engineering! I've always said the nice thing about flight simulators is every landing is a good landing because you can always walk away. Not sure that's true anymore. :)
That's a pretty sweet rig you have there. Lots of fun for the whole family and friends at a party.
Very nice job! If you are making coordinated turns you should not feel as though you are leaning left or right so the sim should remain level.
John, I commend you on your efforts. I have the same Saitek controls and more. I have two monitors in front and one on each side. I am considering building a motion platform with an enclosed cockpit to simulate IFR conditions. Can you direct me where to go and get the information on getting started? It must have been a blast when you first experienced this at home.
Impressively small footprint for full motion. Compact but I could see plenty of power to throw you around. Maybe VR now?
Wow you should really streamline this and start selling it to people, I know for one i would be interested if it is not really expensive ! Great work !
Hats off to you, sir! Very inspirational piece of craft.
Hi !
I noticed that when you are established in a continuous (supposedly coordinated) turn, the platform keeps on being banked.
This is not correct: the platform shouldn't replicate the bank of the airplane, but the direction of the apparent weight. That means that as soon as you're established in the turn, the platform should not be banked, as there is no lateral component of the apparent weight.
Awesome man!!!! That is unreal, there aren't too many "general" people in this world that could do this at home...IMPRESSIVE!!! Next step would be to place it on cylinders so it would be smoother, Im sure that would be NO PROBLEM for you though. You could sale that thing to all sorts of aviaiton enthusiasts. NICE!!!
Nice work, that's pretty intuitive. As for weight restrictions, all that wood looks heavy have you not thought about aluminum framing to reduce weight?
All flight simulator fans dream machine.
I would get a largest monitor I can afford. Great work!
more monitors
Extremely nice. I made my own a while back too but it is for racing games. And it isn't nearly as nice as this one.
This man it's a GENIUS !!! good job my friend
That's great! Now just mount 3 monitors or a 70" on there and you're set. I love it.
This is already done. See my web site at the end.
@@Project4DOF I just checked it out. Now that what I'm talking about. Clearly you're a smart guy, but was this pretty easy to set up? Something that the average person could do? I would love to add full motion to my sim set up but all of the commercial home stuff for sale is unreal priced. Have you thought about selling your concept?
Looks like a lot of fun, and I'll give it a "Plus 2" for immersion factor! That said, if I build one to do any type of aerobatic or ACM, I'd definitely want a sturdier seat plus lap (& possibly shoulder) harness. All told though, it looks great fit bug smashers & bus drivers..
The next obvious step is to gimbal that bad boy for inverted flight! (You'll REALLY want the harness then,lol) Meantime, a few pieces of quarter-round will keep that mouse from falling off..
Overall? Sierra Hotel!
very great project you have done..... you mush spend a lot of time to build this....Great.
Vaya pasada que bonito, lastima la silla, por lo demas muy bien
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
You need to make friends with a welder or someone with a metal works or machine shop.
What you have built is pretty amazing and the wood certainly keeps the cost down and is a very forgiving material. But now that you have the kinks worked out and have finish dimensions to work with, you should definitely put it all in a welded aluminum frame. At least that's why I'd do if I had your $$ and smarts !
Hi Michel, I visited your website and realized you did a lot of work on this project. I'm wondering if it is possible to hook up this system with a 6 degree of freedom platform. I want to make the platform myself and since I'm mechanical engineer and doesn't know much about electrical stuff, I wanted to make sure I have other instructions for electrical part of it . appreciate your feed back.
Greet work! Low and Highfilters are still someething new for many DIY Motion Sim builders and Coders. Also coding the motion software is not done by many. I wonder if this 3DOF still works?
My biggest respect for your motion platform! But honestly; why do you use a plastic chair? Is it because of the weight?
Greetings from Austria!
Manuel
nachbarin69 Yes exactly, the motors and driver were selected to be low cost. In order to remain in that power range, I need to respect the weight budget and I prefer to add Equipment on the front (cockpit) instead of underneat and my back.
+Michel Poulin were did u buy that
nachbarin69 where did you buy it? 😯😯😯😯😯😯😯
nachbarin69 Nett amoi an Österreicher auf yt zu treffn
Absolutely brilliant I'd love to have a go in that
Nice job. My thoughts are that these Stewart Platform flight simulators take direct inputs from the control stick device making quick and accurate positioning of the platform based on this however the sim package may dampen these control inputs to more closely relate to the responsiveness of the aircraft or vehicle being operated. This is why it may seem that the aircraft in the sim is laggy in turning yet the 3DOF platform banks quickly based on stick input? Is this correct thinking? Not that is incorrect or any less entertaining to operate. I've seen some platform demos for race car games and it looks to be very drastic movement of the platform no where near what an actual drive would expect in an actual car unless he was almost on two wheels about to roll over! I suspect the platform don't take into account any over swear and just keeps banking the platform to its limits as to where an actual vehicle has a lot of vehicle weight to compensate oversteer resulting in other dynamics such as loss of traction inducing skids and such...
Nice work none the less, there is a lot of work to pulling this level of project off, much respect!
great project , but you should have used some physical protection kit for your head and body.
I must say, this looks affordable comparared to anything else I seen. How hard is this to build?
nice work, i've been pondering building something like this for a while, i'm sure it would be a fun project to build one. but what is your impression about actually using it? does it enhance your flighing experience? does it make you feel motion sick? do you still use it and prefer it vs. sitting in a normal comfy chair?
*****
Since I made this video you have seen, I improve the
motion Platform software to better reproduce lateral accelerations by
developing the Motion Cues with Washout Filters Algorithm. I also
added a Triple LCD Display for Eyefinity / Surround Viewing. (See my web pages) With both add-ons,
it enhances a lot the flight experience. I really appreciate the feeling
of landing, braking and takeoff. The roll is more appreciated
with small aircraft. It does not make me
feel sick. I wish to make it enclosed
but I am scared there is not enough room, the basement ceiling is too low. Thanks for writing.
Michel Poulin you need a oculus rift dk2
Thunderous applause! If only we lived in a world in which you wouldn't be held liable for or judged for the inevitable injury to someone or yourself. In the realm of the exceptional, sooner or later, shit happens. Did you have any ardent Nay-Sayers? Off to see how this has progressed! Thank you for having way too much time on your hands!
Gorgeous wood work!
ditto on the wood. At first, I thought; "why wood? where is the steal?" then as the video panned all the parts, my reaction changed to "wow, that's some nice work."
Like what you have built here.
Subscribed to keep updated. Thanks for sharing it.
Awesome!!!! congratulations!! this it's my dream build this motion platform!!! thanks for share!!
WOW!! i would never thourght of using a plastic garden chair for a flight sim seat. but i guess that it works. But this motion latform could really use a Recaro bucket seat and an 8 point harness XD
Nice.. I bet Flying something made by the wright brothers would be super real in this thing.. I'm kidding this is pretty awesome!
good job , looks like a build based from BFF 3 DOF.
After all that awesome engineering, the Rubbermaid chair? I will give you my office chair...lol
What engines did you use? I'm manufacturing one for cars ... It's still all in the beginning and I'm looking for the information first ..could you give it to me?
It looks bigger than the doorway!? Great job mate!!
Good job!, i admire youre motion plataform (sorry my english), thats it´s nice. For now, i´m complete my DIY rudder perdals, but in the future, i wanna go for a trim sistem whit the tree potenciometers without use of the old joystick. Have a good day!
Michel, this is really cool. Consider using and Oculus Rift too.
AWESOME,..................ALWAYS WANTED TO BUILD SUCH A CREATION. YOU THE MAN. NOW BUILD A HAWKER TYPHOON BODY AROUND IT? COOOOOOOOOL!
Excellent. Glad you added the FA 18 bit at the end. We all want to know how that is :). Any chance you could try a carrier landing? Better get a crash helmet first though!
DIY'er of 80 lvl :D
Incredible and amazing!
I don't understand why all these flightsimmers set the roll of the platform to the roll of the aircraft and not the balance ball. If you are in a balanced turn, the platform should remain level since that's what you'll experience in a real airplane
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next step Oculus Rift and air sickness bag. GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you're sending raw angle information and translate them directly for the motors drivers, you should add some dampening calculations to your software because it looks jerky, nevertheless Great project!
You sir, are an inventor.
You better put some seatbelts to that plastic chair. Very clever device, by the way. Thank you for sharing it.
Congrats! it's seems like a real simulator
Tips: Rotate at 50-55knots on take off. Flaps not needed for take off on 172 unless doing a short or soft field take off.
My hat is off to you, good job. I know you have much more to do, no lol from me. I couldn't come close to building something like that. Did you design it yourself, or did you find plans on the internet. At any rate, very cool. It kind of reminds me of the mechanical bulls that people ride at bars. Be careful and don't let it throw you.
You need a racing harness not a seat belt, that is one rough ride. It would interesting to see how the rig would hold up on a roller coaster simulator. I just keep thinking "eject, eject" in that plastic lawn chair.
Вот,вот,вот,то что надо👍👍👍❤️
nice, project, may i ask you, how much will it cost to make one like yours,? and can you make one to sell it? thk u. roy
you should look up a old simultor called "rock'n'ride" much cleaner design be a good basis to start with also a simple solution to wood is unistrut homedepot has their own cheap version you can buy east to assemble and insanely strong
As awesome as that is, how hard would it be to program it to read/angle off of the joystick/throttle axis data directly?
Might not be as accurate but it should be 'close enough', and it would work with any sim/game that way.
Or can windows only send joystick data to 1 program at a time?
I'd like to know what motion software you use.
Well done guy. Thumbs up.
What are you doing when mouse drop on floor? I have deep chair form car. This is first element to my simulator.
Nice work
Happy flight to you
How do you get the information out from the computer ? Is it a protocol which is used for these simulators ?
Wow are you still alive - that thing looks powerful enough to include an ejector seat function.
5:25 I was waiting for that...
Good job man.. you just create the most amazing DIY flight sim. you inspire Me,, thanks
6:10 he almost kissed the screen :0
Thanks for comments. What you wrote is partly true. My motion control software has been improved since this video publication in order to mimic accelerations instead of aircraft movement. Nevertheless, platform physical limitations limits the platform ability to simulate high acceleration. See my Web Site (Page 6) for rational.
Do a google search for FlightSim_Motion_Platform/washout_filters
Very nice! thanks for sharing
Cool! I'd like to have of these at home!
Great work!!!! Congrats!!! I think you're in my area I live in Montreal and do alot of FSX, how much do you sell your project? If you do sell it. I've been looking to build one but it's really not my domain and I'm not good with electronics.
Again Congrats
Ronnie
i think thats actually 4dof.. since it can move up and down vertically... pitch, roll, yaw, and heave
Hi, did you build the sw to connect and limit the FSX?
Thats pretty cool. Lol I thought you was going to sling yourself out of the seat on the quick motion though.
6:10 funniest moment ever :DD It's strong as hack... gotta watch the how you build it video...
Great simulator project
Regards from Norway
Tore
is it the power supply that's noicy?
great work!
That's cool but the sim is already pitched up when on the runway. It should have pitched up when taking off
Awesome Work!!!!!
keep an eye on the oculus rift.
Would be a good combo :)
i would calm the sharp movements down a bit but other than that amazing job must have been a lot of work
a fellow welsh flight sim fan,,,what part wales? I'm in Cwmbran! If you need any PC build modify advice let me know!
Hi, maybe look into using a VR headset?
what would happen if you fly a looping?
"Quick Movement" = slight Holy Shit moment.
I flew a 1-26 glider years ago that made noises like that in the air.