A Neolithic Guitar?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2023
- What y'all reckon, can we accept my petition to ban the name that shall not be named?
Let me know what you think of the video in the comments. I'd love to hear your feedback on whether you'd have an instrument made from this!
Can't wait to show you the finished result. Going to do another one of these soon, requests in the comments!
Love,
Daisy
Here's the article about the oak I gathered some resources from: www.adamsonandlow.com/bog_oak/
My tool wall:
Fret cutters: stewmac.sjv.io/0JWGgJ
Fret tang nippers: stewmac.sjv.io/RyB0xg
Fret hammer: stewmac.sjv.io/21j0E0
Mini plane (couldn't find my exact one but this is a good similar): stewmac.sjv.io/EK9dmW
Lie Nielsen No. 5: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/...
Lie Nielsen No. 7: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/...
Fretboard radius: stewmac.sjv.io/QyJd5a
Ruler small: stewmac.sjv.io/B0xdrB
Fret scale: stewmac.sjv.io/AWmM9K
Brace chisel: stewmac.sjv.io/JzJdG2
Straight edge: stewmac.sjv.io/b3zygb
My website: www.tempestguitars.com
My instagram: / daisy_tempest
Thanks so much for watching and I will see you all very soon! - Видеоклипы
Someone needs to commission you to build a guitar with 5k year old Neolithic Black Oak back and sides, 3k year old fossilized sitka spruce top (as seen on Driftwood Guitars), and 42K year old kauri neck (as seen on Crimson Guitars). While you are at it have someone make up some tuner buttons from meteoric iron, make dot marker inlays from ammolite fossil from canada, and make a nut and saddle from mammoth ivory. It would be the oldest guitar on earth.
It's good idea until one check timeline of mentioned builds )))) With all respect and love to Chris and Ben....
@@YegresAL They are just trying to add even more age to their builds
I Love this idea, but I just gotta add a little to either the 'Ick factor' or the 'Cool factor'. Hide glue from frozen Mammoths, and Tung Oil finish recovered ancient Chinese Junks.
Strings might be tricky!
Bog oak is an awesome name. It reminds me of whisky (whiskey) and mummified Iron Age Irish people. It's metal.
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@@DaisyTempest Is that Welsh?
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I agree with you. On the name that is. (Well, maybe also on what you wrote.)
That reminds me of whisky too @@DaisyTempest
@@jeffwhitehead7990It certainly looks like Welsh.
Thanks for the simultaneous history, geological, and woodworking lessons!
Interesting. As a fossil myself, I appreciate you giving fossils proper respect!
😂😂😂 awesome
Oak contains acetic acid, hence the vinegar smell. You can make a wood dye used for ebonising wood by getting a jar, putting in some wire wool and submerging it in vinegar (acetic acid). This makes iron acetate. The acetic acid in the oak plus iron salts in the soil will eventually combine to stain the wood. I used the wire wool and vinegar trick to stain some newish oak beams in my house, rather than use modern stains. Also known as ferric/ferrous acetate
I think the table is in Rochester Cathedral now we went to see it a little while ago. It's remarkable to see.
Your history lesson, as well as your craftsmanship, are top-notch. I can't wait to see this one finished.
You are such an inspiration to watch, keep up your beautiful work and stunning personality. I kind of like the BogOak term makes it seem like a buried treasure, dug up from history for a gift to your talented hand to create a musical piece of art.
I enjoyed that lesson very much ☺️
Amazing looking piece. Love the colour of the ... Oak.
For a woodworker you make a pretty good biology history teacher 😀
I love the name “bog oak”!!! That’s a beautiful looking piece, I’m sure it’ll turn out awesome!
Interesting. I trust you'll share the sound of the instrument once completed.
Great content as always. I made a couple with this stuff following some suggestions from Rosie H, and it is excellent. I made one as a 65th birthday present for a friend who actually lives in the Fens. If you are monitoring, am I right to remember you did a YT on up and downcut spirals for rosettes, etc. Cannot find it anywhere. Cheers. Oh, and it should always be called bog oak or fenland bog oak. Other names (e.g. black fenland oak, etc) should be viewed with suspicion and the sellers questioned closely. It is sometimes modern oak which has been treated. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't thousands of years old, and I think there is an attempt to pass it off.
Great video! Now I know about Royal Fenland Oak/Fossilised Oak/Neolitic Black Oak, and where I should hide a body!
Fabulous video. Love hearing from you!
Great video Daisy on the Royal Fenland Oak, Fossilised Oak or Neolithic Black Oak. Before you send the guitar off to your client, can you make a video of how the guitar sounds when you finished making it?
Daisy, thanks for educating, entertaining and for sharing! ❤
Thank you for the lesson I can't wait to hear it's wonderful sound.
such a joy, I so enjoy your videos. beautiful bog oak. LOL
Thank you for the lesson again Daisy! - Cheers from Canada
Thanks for sharing this information. The guitar looks great.
That's a lovely looking bog oak guitar.
What a great channel, just watched a few vids- great work, cool personality-super inspiring!
If you want to get rid of a body DON’T throw it in a bog!! There are instances where bodies have been recovered centuries after disposal very well preserved! As a luthier you’re outstanding! As a murderer. . . Well, all I can say is ‘don’t give up the day job’.
Daisy Tempest. The worlds most charming luthier.
Another enjoyable and informative video😀
I can't wait to see and hear the finished product, and always enjoy hearing your voice, talking and explaining something. 😊❤
Very cool! I hope we get to see and hear the finished guitar!
I always enjoy watching your videos. You relay your thoughts and experiences in a positive manner. I for one am looking forward to the future video of this instrument’s completion. I know the voice of that instrument will be heavenly.
looks great so far!! I wish I could own an instrument that cool!!
I'm really looking forward to see the finished guitar.... it looks wonderful... and of course hear how it sounds. Thanks for sharing your work with us.
Gorgeous piece of wood. The contrast between that too and the oak is absolutely beautiful!
The black color used to be used to make ink. People would harvest oak galls (which are abnormal growths on oak trees) and extract gallotannic acid from them (by grinding, boiling, or fermenting) and then combine that with ferric sulfate (obtained by reacting iron with acid) to produce "iron gall ink". It was used extensively from the classical era through the beginning of the 20th century. You can still get it, but it's largely been supplanted by synthesized dye and pigment inks.
Truly a lovely wood and I hope you post a video of the guitar's sound before delivery. And thanks for the lesson!
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with your signature enthusiasm and grace. On a more personal note, I would like to offer deepest gratitude for the way you have made woodworking and "working with your hands" inspirational. Hopefully many young people will see that woodworking and other crafts are as acceptable as "Bond Street" and other supposedly high faluting careers. You are my Guitar Hero Daisy Tempest!
Here in the US there is a town called Black Oak in Arkansas...and a band with the same name. Since the town is located along the ancient riverbed of the Mississippi River perhaps the town is named after a similar wood?
That is so cool.
What an incredible video! I learned so much. Please show us the finished guitar when you get it done. I would LOVE to hear it resonate. That is some beautiful wood for sure.
Fascinating, never heard of this type of lumber until you spoke about it. :)
As for 'fossils' deserving better, this 'living fossil' is very appreciative of your sentiment... :D
That will be a gorgeous guitar!
Awesome stuff as always Daisy. I think there is a kind of pine from Canada/North America where they float the logs down rivers into sea bays etc. These particular logs ended up sinking and sitting on the bottom of the sea for decades. Not sure what they used them for though.
Interested to hear what this guitar sounds like.
Daisy here in Ireland we have that (bog) oak of which we turn up loads I have a garden full of it we usually make spoons or traditional thingymagigs and flog them to tourists ! we find it in the peat bog when we are taking the turf ( I know we shouldn't be digging it but it is by hand and hell what else do you do with a mountain ? the sheep have already caused the most damage over the last 300 years ) but the nicest wood of all when we find it in the bog is the native Irish Scots pine . Its about 3000 years old whereas the Irish oak is usually around 5000 years old. The pine tends to turn grey when exposed to the air whereas the oak as you demonstrate so well turns almost black. But once you cut into the old Scots pine even after 3000 years it leaves behind the grey and is a beautiful vibrant red with a smell that resembles rosewood but much sweeter, it is beautiful wood to work with completely different to modern Scots Pine lumber. Managed to get enough Bog Scots pine gathered up for a table with an Irish oak top as soon as I remember how to make one now where have I put my saw ?
I'm glad I found your channel!I'd love to start making my own instruments, I'm thinking of building a stave snare drum.
... love that bog-loony spruce guitar you're making....
Great video about a timber I'd never heard of. So interested in hearing the tone once it's finished.
"Bog Oak" is also used as a material for making tobacco pipes. Pipe makers call it "Morta" so there's a fourth marketing option for you!
It's prized for its high tolerance to heat and lack of adding any woody flavor. So in addition to sonic and aesthetic benefits, you can have a rare guitar that can be smoked.
In seriousness though, another dense hard wood used in the same application that looks very nice is briar, but it being so knotty and coming in burls usually no bigger than a melon, it wouldn't work for any use other than decoration on guitars. A straight grain briar could make a very cool headstock veneer or wood pickguard though. Or decorate a fretboard.
For you to explain it as well as you just did you understand the subject much better than your humility allows you to say. A very good explanation
thank you great bog oak
The name can just bog off... Nice looking instrument Daisy.
I am not a guitar maker, nor do I think I will ever have the skills or patience to make one. I watch your videos to pick up transferable woodwork skills. I enjoyed this video fr the history lesson and your fantastic sense of humour, Thank you, keep it coming.
when I was a student the head of department ( at the polytechnic for shame! ) was named Peter Marsh and when a bogman was found locally and put in Manchester University Museum they called him Pete Marsh so off course we all called the dept head bogman from then on . . .
Love your content. Also im from the fens.😊
Great job Teach 😊
The burial chamber you show in your intro I believe is Pentre Ifan and is up on a hillside about 7 mls South of Cardigan West Wales. And of course famous peat bogs of old became coal seams. Brilliant work and is that guitar going to be 12 strings for sound would be awesome.
It would be great to see some more, finished or close to completed instruments
It’s bog oak. A great name. Although quagmire quercus does have a certain ring to it.
Guessing that the Fe reaction in an acidic environment is pretty much what happens when you dissolve steel wool in vinegar, to create a liquid that can be used to "ebonise" certain woods. Watched a YT channel recently (can't remember the creator's name offhand) where he ebonised the whole fingerboard of an upright solid bass which was then sealed under a super glue finish, to give a really beautiful hardwearing fingerboard. A neat process.
And i would LOVE to own this guitar, if i could but afford it!
Bog Oak!!!
..it's settled then.
Call me picky, but fossilised means turned to stone, and this is still wonderfully wood!
Might as well be fossilized. It's hard as hell anyway
I think you are my new favorite person.
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I had a pretty vivid dream not long ago, in which I was making a guitar with some of this neolithic oak, and an ancient Sitka top from Alaska. I pictured an oak neck and fingerboard also, into which I inlaid a scene with a band of bog-flecked Neanderthal gentlemen, bristling with stone tipped spears, attempting to take down an enraged mammoth, who had pinned one of the early humans underfoot. Had the dream become real, I would have used fossilized ivory for inlay elements, nut, saddle, tuner buttons, and bridge pins to complete the theme. Unfortunately, the ancient Sitka is now sold out, gone, and I only had one chance to build with it. My shop partner bought four sets of that ancient Sitka, but he will not part with one of them under pain of death; so I guess my dream will never come true.
Nevertheless, I do intend to score a couple sets of neolithic oak to build with. It's beautiful stuff, and I may still get to do that mammoth hunt inlay.
Thanks for another great video, Daisy.
In New Zealand Swamp Kauri is much prized, so perhaps Swamp Oak!
Daisy, you talk as fast as us Texan's talk slow. Greeting from Plano, Texas !! Can't wait to see it progress....
6:04 *Invasion of The Body Snatchers-shriek!*
Neolithic Oak ❤
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Lovely video! You mention rosewood when you talk about voicing, does the fossilized oak have a similar warmth then? Thanks!
Very interesting, Daisy. Thank you. Is it hard to work with? Literally, harder?
Nothing wrong with saying bog oak...at least not on this side of the Pond. 🙂 Your video is charming as always. Love your humor and animations as well as your knowledge and your handiwork. I'm sure you're aware of sinker mahogany from Central America. I wonder how that would sound under your hands? Keep up the great channel, Daisy. You're awesome.
I've heard of some crazy old bog wood from New Zealand. I don't remember the name of the tree, but they get huge like redwoods.
Thats marvelous. I'd heard of it, but hadnt taken on board the story. Is it different to work with compared to contemporary wood?
Please please do a follow up when it’s finished, would love to hear the tone.
So, for this beautiful wood, we can thank Pete and Anna Robic...
Someone found fossilized sitka spruce in Alaska, and Driftwood is building a guitar with the top made out of that . Wonder how that would sound with the oak sides and back. Anyways, beautiful guitar and entraining video
Nothing wrong with calling it Bog Oak .
Downunder here in New Zealand we have Swamp Kauri which is probably the equivalent .
Theory is they were buried when what is now lake Taupo volcanically erupted
I make bog oak here in Tennessee all the time. I use apple cider vinegar and steel wool 😃
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Pete-Oak, prehistoric-oak, wet-oak, dark-moody-oak, responsibly sourced oak, Ochre-Oak (cos both are coloured by iron)
Bog oak sounds very similar to Sinker wood. I think that's a cool name for it, although I don't know if peat bog is any different to the bottom of a river or lake.
i'm also working a lot with "bog oak" :) what a phantastic species, i've pieces feom dark beown to absolute pitch black... coming from the ukraine and certified 3700- 4300yrs old...thanks, cheers and greetin gs from austria :)
BOG WOOD !!!
Well done! Bruce Hoadley would be proud
I don't have a problem with the "bog oak" name. It's descriptive of the history of the wood, and it's clearly different than any modern standing oak trees because of it's time in the bog...
I would very much like to hear how this sounds next to a modern material guitar.
"Ode to constipation" isn't a bad name either.
Apparently in Britain, bog also means toilet. (I was confused as to why Daisy was so turned off by the name).
In America a bog is just a bog. No poo connotation.
6:00 she said it again :)
Hi 👋, Very interesting, ---- Oak , as I have lived in the FenLands for around 3/4 years, I have known the farmers to plough the Fields one year, and next year, they have found a piece of BOG OAK come up, over the years I have used a lot of Rosewood-BlackWood-Ebony-,
But never used BOG 😂 OAK, Alright, we are call it FOSSILISED OAK 😂, I am retired specialist joiner cabinet maker, I used to do work for Walker the organ building company in Brandon, and I have worked all done work for John Simpsons architects of London, and I have made furniture for two of the University, Cambridge, I wish you all the success for the future, I am now retired and living in France,
Phil from the moulin France,
I wanted to watch you make a guitar. There are plenty of wood experts on youtube, but not many guitar makers.
Had to look up Moon Spruce. Familiar with Sitka and Adirondack and Carpathian. Fossilized isn't the proper term. Mineralized I think is the word you're looking for. Beautiful guitar. Wish I had one.
Really? I've got a very rare Patrick James Eggle signature Faith bog oak + spruce that is a beautiful instrument that I never use and deserves a good home! Details on request.
I live in the fens and at any moment we could be a puddle all over again.
What do you think about making your Tempest Logo from stone of the neolithic period on this one?
Wonderful video and instrument. FYI, it's not fossilized, it's just preserved. Fossils are stone, I don't think a stone guitar would sound very good. cheers!
I was in Ely cathedral last week but did not see the table (edit removed March 2023)
Doing some research, I've find that some of this wood being sold is "stabilized", by which they're being circumlocutious about the fact that it's resin-impregnated because it's lost all of its inherent stiffness. At that point, it's basically just plastic with an impregnated wood decoration. I don't think all of it is like that, but some clearly is. I don't know what wood you're getting or from where, but maybe be sure that you're not (or you're okay with) getting what is essentially a fancy-looking piece of Perspex.
Edit: You did say you're getting yours from Adamson and Low, and they do seem like they're producing real wood, not "stabilized" wood.
Was the wood soaked in fresh water or salt water?
Has anyone tried building a guitar with the same design features as a violin? What I mean by that is making the front or top out of a soft wood and the back out of hard wood then running a post from the saddle on the high pitch sting side to the back hard wood for the tremble and then making a bass bar glued to the top or front soft wood near the saddle on the low pitch strings for bass.🙂
Most acoustic guitars (of reasonable quality or better) do use hardwood sides and back and a softwood top. Some are built with arched tops (called archtop guitars), and some of those with arched backs, too. Guitar bracing is a big deal, and I think relatively few have straight back bracing any more, à la the violin bass bar. The guitars being built here are steel-string guitars, which need to resist far more torque than gut- or nylon-stringed violins do, requiring the bracing to be more significant. Archtop guitars are probably more akin to cellos. That said, while I'm sure someone has experimented with sound posts in guitars, it's definitely rare. I expect if it was an unmitigated improvement, it would be common, which implies there must be some drawback or just lack of improvement.
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How is it to work? Is it particularly hard?