Crazy but I am afraid it won’t go very far. No IBIS with 102mpx and f4 makes no sense. Make it 50mpx backlit, drop the aperture to f2.8 or simply add IBIS to the new camera. Then we are talking.
it's a great idea - it will be an instant market leader. i would be very happy if Fujifilm sells a lot of them to rich folk too. If Fujifilm has more profit they can grow as a company, do more Research and Development, and become more competitive against the other brands
I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I do have over 42 years as a Licensed Broadcast Engineer. I used to be called out when a production crew couldn't shoot a commercial the way it should be. Currently I have a Fugi X-s20 18-55 mm lens. I have an old video camera that also shoots 4K stills at 8 mb. This GFX 100RF is a wast of effort for what it would be used for. 8 megs would be more than enough, possibly 2 megs would do it. I've got a pocket video camera that shoots 4K @ 2 megs and is fine. The best way I would put it is: Would I take it if Fugi gave me one. My answer would be No Thanks. I like Fugi, it offers charactoristics that I like over the other brands. If need be, I would by another Fuji, but not this one. They need to reduce the image quality and improve on the lens, maybe a zoom from 18-150mm. I hate to see companies going off on tangents with something that for the most part no body wants. When they do this, they expect us to pay for their blunder by raising the price on everything else. Good video.
What about the benefits of that huge medium format sensor?? That medium format “look” and it’s inherently better low light, high iso performance is enough for me.
I actually bought a Fuji GSW670iii Medium Format film camera new back in the day… but this rumored camera makes no sense to me. For 100mpix you absolutely need ibis or a tripod to get critical sharpness (and why have a super light camera if you’re packing a tripod?).
I think it would be a 28mm f3.2 full frame equivalent. I shoot a lot of film with a Nikon 28mm 3.5 ais lens, and it’s preformed excellent for me. I don’t think an ultra fast 28mm is necessary. It may not have ibis, but I am sure this camera will have excellent high ISO to achieve a more than adequate shutter speed. I am kinda excited about it. Hopefully it won’t be over $3K….
F3.5 would probably be ideal, it’s already medium format so trying to make it ultra compact but still heavier and slower than full frame or aps-c options is a miss. I do think the 28 equivalent is a good idea though especially with the built in crop/framing options you get a lot more flexibility. No IBS does restrict its use a lot though and compared to other options out there this would be a very niche audience compared to just buying a 50r or 100s and adapting a smaller lens to it.
As a Hasselblad film shooter with a 500cm and a 553elx, I have been looking at the Hasselblad 907x CFV 100C with the XCD 2,5/38V. Again this set up does not have IBIS. The Fujifilm will be considerably cheaper than the Hasselblad so I think the will find there is a market for a medium format X100, just like Hasselblad and Leica have their users that are willing to pay for that little bit of special but it won't be for everyone.
Oh yes don’t get me wrong I’m sure they will have a market for it but it makes no sense to me as it will be a very niche market. The size alone will get a lot of folks.
It'll be out of my price range, but a field camera for specific landscape uses, i wouldn't be surprised if it came with an optional TCL and WCL like the X100 making it more flexible I'm sure it'll be optically amazing, just very specific use case, the Leica Q3 and the X100VI are cameras that cover so many genres and uses. This camera I think will be used by a very few people in very specific circumstances.... sure at F/5.6 1/500 on a nice day you can do street photography without IBIS and have perfectly sharp photos... but there are better options more affordable (especially for a genre where the story/moment matters more than the actual photo quality) I think the compromises to get it down to the size of the X-Pro3 are not needed, I love the X100VI, its size and weight are perfect for carrying around, but I really don't see the point in this camera for anyone that needs anything more than a field camera. To me if it was going to have a small F/4 lens, i'd rather have seen a 50mm Eqv lens something in the normal range, and at 50mm it would be able to do portraiture using the full sensor with an eqv. F/3.2 you'd still be able to get a nice somewhat shallow DOF an F/2.8 lens would have been better even if it was bigger, considering the X-Pro 3 is not a large camera, (it's not like the lens on the q3 is a pancake lens)
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography It's almost like a proof of concept camera, making a medium format digital camera small like the old fuji film medium format cameras. But the compromises just don't make sense to me. It will be too expensive even if it is released at half the price of a Q3 (£3000) which i highly doubt. I'd not buy it, the F/4 doesn't really bother me if i can control the lighting, but the focal length is just not that useful to me. If the GFX100RF is £5000 and If i was going to drop £5000+ on a camera with one lens, I'd get the GFX 100 s II with the 63mm F/2.8....
100% right Kirk. Hoping this rumor isn't true and like you, if Fuji comes out with any camera - it should be an updated X-Pro. For that matter, how about an update to my beloved X70. This rumored camera seems to be a camera nobody asked for.
Instead Fujifilm might soon release their weather sealed medium format action cam with internal pro res raw, time code generator + jamming, 32 bit float audio, optional mobile control app for all video and audio functions, interchangeable lens. $900 us , made in japan
I'm with you with this camera. It doesn't make sense to me regarding the fixed lens choice, pricing and ibis. I also want an xpro4 but if I was into a fixed lens high end camera, a leica q3 sounds a lot more appealing than this GFX 100RF.
Stabilization is the main thing that you need for "running and gunning". And with the new laws going into effect "world wide' in the next 2 years, Photoing any will be against the law, So if you use any camera, you will on the run.
Personally I miss the Bronica RF 645 (should never have sold it) if Fuji makes something similar then, wow. Until you actually use MF you won’t appreciate the benefits. But it’s slow…You have to be very disciplined and deliberate. Re: the X-Pro4 yes long over due.
maybe we should not completely trust the rumours? you don't think Fufjifilm would have thought of the difficulty of using a camera with 100MP and not IBIS? Or perhaps they assume people will use higher ISO to make it work for lower light - that's perhaps not a completely ridiculous assumption, is it? do you really need to shoot everything at 100 ISO?
Everyone is missing the fact that this will also be Fuji’s answer to all those photographers asking for a digital XPan camera This 100RF will have gfx sensor, 65:24 shooting mode, 28mm equivalent lens (most popular xpan lens equivalent) Those 3 factors above equals to heavenly X-Pan shooting Because the 65:24 cuts image resolution in half, that would roughly be 50mp Xpan images. Not a bad trade off considering they are trying to put it in an XPro sized camera Then you will see influencer yt vids going crazy for it.
I think of it as the digital equivalent of the old Fuji GW690 medium format film camera. Although that camera is lot bigger. I think I would prefer a GFX100r. As far as IBIS goes, they have these things called tripods. :)
Can't wait for the first 1,000MP camera, only thing is you'll need your own personal data center to process your shots. But seriously, they're just looking for any way they can to relieve you of your hard earned dosh and photographers need to wake up? Back in the day you'd buy your Nikon F2 or your Canon F1 and 20 years later you'd still be happily shooting away with it, but now everyone wants to upgrade from what they have every year or two. It's crazy! Two years ago I bought a mint/boxed 50r with 720 actuations. Think about that, someone took 720 photos with a camera then lost around two grand getting rid of it? Meanwhile, I'm still using the same x-t1 I bought second hand a decade ago. 90-95% of photography is NOT about equipment at all, it's about being there and recognising what constitutes a good image. So be happy with what you already have and use the money instead on that exotic photo trip you've always dreamed of taking. I guarantee it will make you a better photographer than having any upgrades or more megapixels.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Don't get me wrong I love using my 50r, but I wouldn't be enticed into changing it for a 100mp Fuji, and certainly not for a fixed lens rangefinder? My point is that photographers are encouraged to keep trading up to the "next best thing" for new features they think they need, yet if there were no new models they would have been quite content with what they are already using. Suddenly they think the "need" IBIS, or Subject Detection AF, or more Megapixels, when in fact they got by without any of those things until now. If people concentrated more on subject matter and composition and trained their eye to recognise a good photo opportunity it would cost them nothing and would improve their photography way more than any amount of megapixels?
The GFX 100 RF could be nice with a tilt-shift 35mm f4 to work with a tripod, so a MF lens and the EVF used in the 100 II for a cheap price around 6000 $ without EVF (optional).
Have they confirmed that this is the camera they're releasing, because if it is that is crazy, are they trying to get back to something like the GA645 or GSW690, not anything most people need these days.
Interestingly Fuji Rumors is usually pretty accurate in their rumors. So my guess is we will see it. Nothing has been confirmed but I bet it’s a pretty solid bet.
it's dumb to lose faith in a brand because one of its models is not for you - this would be a good backup camera (still in medium format) that could allow taking photos when it's not safe to change lenses - actually having a fixed lens is good for this purpose because you are not going to be putting other lenses on a second body in a dodgy environment anyway (and you shouldn't travel or transport camera bodies with any lenses attached); it could be for those who are okay with a fixed lens; so many possibilities; of course if you need interchangeable lenses then why are you dissing a product that's not for you? Or perhaps you can't justify an additional camera for medium format photos in a compact package? I would consider this if I wanted an additional camera body or in the future if I no longer needed to use some of the focal lengths I use today.
I have not lost faith in Fuifilm or I would have sold out long ago and gone back to Canon. I'm questioning their MARKETING DEPT because that is where this is coming from!
An 35mm f4 is not 28 f4 on a FF , it is 28mm field of view with 35mm f3.2 depth of field. 45 f2.8 is then 35 f2.2 and the best option would be 35 f3.2 on this camera giving you 28 f2.2 and option to crop all other focal lengths.
Sounds very similar to their old film cameras. I'm with you on the X-Pro IV, but the GFX 100RF sounds cool, but I won't buy it. I mainly want them to fix their AF, I returned my x-H2S because it wasn't competitive, with cameras in that price range. On the other hand I just finally got my x100VI I ordered in March or April, and the AF seems fine for what I use it for. I did like their GFX50R and an updated version with IBIS. I assume the GFX 100RF would have a leaf shutter, that would be cool if you like to use an ND filter and high speed sync, yes, it could be very expensive, but cool.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography , I know. I suspend judgment till then, but I foresee a peerless landscape and travel camera for producing expansive images with sublime color depth. This is not for the spray and pray crowd but for intentional photographers: a niche.
GFX100R would be amazing - esp monochrome. But not going to happen sadly... 50R mono would be nice - but too niche for Fuji. Leica, Phase One and Pentax have monochrome sensors.
I'm with you Kirk. There's always going to be a group of people that will buy it but I don't think it will be popular with the Fuji faithful and those trying to decide whether to get into the X-Mount or GF system. I would first like to see a few other things.: Better autofocus via firmware for my X-T3 (unlikely), an EVF for the hot shoe of the new XM-5 (I would love to use one as a vacation kit, street shooting kit), an XE-5 body, the next X Pro as you said. Maybe Santa Claus can help all of us....
Why? Why did Fuji have success with medium format cameras with a fixed lens 50 years ago? Texas Leica! GSW, GS 645 models? There were 10-12 GS 645 models! All with a fixed lens! Professional photographers love these cameras and these cameras were a great success for Fuji! And the Fujifilm gfx 100 rf will be too! An amateur photographer like you won't understand that. But that's not important 😊
They don't have any FF lenses, so it makes no sense to me. I can see them pushing Medium Format harder ... it will relieve you of lots more cash. After the first iteration of an oversized point and shoot, they'll include goodies like ibis, etc. You'll obviously have to upgrade to that! Over the last few years the Kaisen philosophy seems to have been abandoned .... sad. GFX series of lenses are above my pay grade (as are the bodies).
If you shoot street photography and only in good daylight maybe this is your puppy. Maybe they are trying to reach just the point and shoot crowd. Not worth a nickel to me. I wouldn’t own one. As much as I like my Fujifilm and I am highly invested in it. They keep putting out cameras that give me no upgrade path. I am patiently awaiting the XPro 4.
I won’t be buying it. It has no IBIS and has a slow lens. It doesn’t make sense to me. I was hoping for an interchangeable lens rangefinder style camera with IBIS and improved auto focus, basically an upgrade of the GFX50R.
Agreed! I can’t see any indication that there’s a demand for this, let alone the lack of interchangeable lenses and IBIS. Fuji may indeed have a rare flop on their hands
It's not for me either. But why not think of it as Fuji's version of thr Sony RX1R? I'm sure it will have manual controls. Lack of IBIS and f4 or 3.5 seem like bad ideas, a 2.8 would ne nice. I'm sure it will be over $4k. It doesn't anger me that they build products I don't want. On its own, has nothing to do with XPro development or AF issues.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography but I doubt X-Pro and this camera are a choice they are making. If the X-Pro isn't in development already, its probably done. And maybe it should be. Would you sell your XT5 and buy a new X-Pro4? I wouldn't. I enjoy your frank videos, thanks!
Agree completely. It makes no sense. And yes, where’s my X-Pro4!!! Now, what Fuji should do IMHO is make an updated version of my favorite medium format film cameras…the Fuji GW690 and GSW690 with 6 X 9 negatives! 😊
Thanks for this latest video: FujiRumors Latest on the a GFX 100RF fixed lens camera in 2025. I am in total agreement when I read what this camera will be compromised of. It really gave me the impression the FujiFilm designers and engineers are being rushed by the Executives, to come up with a new, “fixed lens, 100MP Medium Format camera.” Right now, to us who have read or heard about this, it sounds like Fujifilm’s New Product Team, put a new puzzle together and the pieces didn’t fit in the right spaces. Besides, what the price will be $,$$$$? How could Fujifilm disgrace their customer base with a New Product such as what has been rumored. What a disgrace!!
“Tin-Foil” hat time…Perhaps Fuji is prepping us, XF Shooters that they are going all GFX in the coming years. The massive FW Update failures and the current update seem only so-so (though most reviews are Videocentric). As I do not shoot with the XH platform I can not comment on the improvement (if any) with the new firmware and as the release of the X-T5 version is being slow-walked frankly seems a little suspicious to me. The aforementioned GFX 100RF is generating a lot of buzz…yet not the slightest reference to a possible X-Pro 4/5, which like you, I am saving my pennies for. Honestly, I am getting this vibe that Fuji is looking to abandon the FX line or at least, produce subpar, mediocre gear going forward, not-so-subtly “encouraging” serious FX shooters to step it up, gear-wise.
I’m with you Kirk, This is a terrible idea! This is Fujifilm rolling over and reaping the money. I get their a business and businesses love money. But lately Fujifilm has became a laughing stock within the profession lane. They’re pandering to the content and TikTok creators. While this is fine but however they’re never I repeat NEVER gonna release a full frame camera. Professionals have been pushed aside to produce these cameras that are aimed at the wrong demographic that are loyal to their brand. Something new will come along and they’ll jump ship and they’ll be left in the dust grasping at straws.
Well, they are laughing all the way to the bank. Their profits are quite good right now. I think its more likely a statement product that not a lot of people will buy. But it will cement them as a player in the fixed lens, street camera market and help sell lesser models.
n any event, most people only consume photos and videos on relatively small phone screens, and not on extremely high resolution monitors. I in general just scroll though my images - to remember a "moment".Fujiflm creates nice pleasing colours and I appreciate that. I would rather spend money on visiting places then blowing out case on a camera. I am pretty sure you have all the cameras you need to capture moments. So maybe go on holiday instead - and stop fixating on the X-Pro 4. In reality how it is going to enrich your life?
I print my images. You might consider printing your favorite images instead of staring at them on your phone. That’s why a larger sensor is important to me
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography I don't look at them on my phone at all actually. I generally view them on my 15 inch laptop. Printing images assumes you have somewhere to put them - not all of us are lucky enough to have a lot of "wall space". But as far as I understand, unless you are blowing prints up really large (in which case you also need to invest in quite an expensive printer and ink), you are not going to see a lot of difference between an print from a 26MP and 40MP, especially if you are viewing it from several feet away?
Maybe to put things in of context for a bit. This whole argument about megapixels makes me a bit bored. If you think about it a bit more - the restriction on film cameras equivalent to what you were talking about in terms of the sensor, was the "film" you put into a camera. The discussions were based on lenses and how to take photos - "seeing" the image etc. All cameras now are pretty good - and you seem to be getting hyper angry. Maybe just go back to talking using film - remember you had to "think" a lot before even taking a photo. So if you don't like the idea of this camera - just don't buy it. The cameras you already have are already really good. Chill out :D
Get your wallet out, its just money. If the RUclipsrs play it up it will sell out and be in shortage. Like you, i would love to see a new x-pro. And maybe, get us the promised autofocus fix for my xt5. Merry Christmas.
physics dictates the limits that's why a F4 lens is likely necessary. -- 100MP is too demanding, going lower likely compromises picture resolution vs size.
Then why do they make a really well regarded 45 f 2.8 and 32-64 f 2.8. These two lenses are top notch. My guess is it's all about weight and size. Which I failed to mention. If you are going to make a medium format point and shoot it better be smaller and lighter than a normal sized medium format. The lenses I mentioned are not small or light. The 45 is actually not bad in this regard.
I also want the X Pro 4!
Yes Tony, most everyone who loves the X-Pro line has been waiting an eternity for a new X-Pro body with IBIS and a 40 MP sensor and X5 processor.
Me trying to handhold a 100mp without ibis is laughable especially at 70yrs 😂😂
Same age here Grumpy Jim. Makes no sense!
It's a very interesting rumor. I'm pretty happy on my 50R and under most lighting or when shutter speed is above 1/60th, IBIS isn't essential.
Love that camera! Wish I had one.
Crazy but I am afraid it won’t go very far. No IBIS with 102mpx and f4 makes no sense. Make it 50mpx backlit, drop the aperture to f2.8 or simply add IBIS to the new camera. Then we are talking.
Yes, Yes, and Yes to all of it but not a fixed lens camera.
it's a great idea - it will be an instant market leader. i would be very happy if Fujifilm sells a lot of them to rich folk too. If Fujifilm has more profit they can grow as a company, do more Research and Development, and become more competitive against the other brands
Well you never know!
I would love to play with this camera as panorama camera. 65x24 frame. Looking forward to it.
And that brings it down to a mere 50mp but a very cool option.
I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I do have over 42 years as a Licensed Broadcast Engineer. I used to be called out when a production crew couldn't shoot a commercial the way it should be. Currently I have a Fugi X-s20 18-55 mm lens. I have an old video camera that also shoots 4K stills at 8 mb. This GFX 100RF is a wast of effort for what it would be used for. 8 megs would be more than enough, possibly 2 megs would do it. I've got a pocket video camera that shoots 4K @ 2 megs and is fine. The best way I would put it is: Would I take it if Fugi gave me one. My answer would be No Thanks. I like Fugi, it offers charactoristics that I like over the other brands. If need be, I would by another Fuji, but not this one. They need to reduce the image quality and improve on the lens, maybe a zoom from 18-150mm. I hate to see companies going off on tangents with something that for the most part no body wants. When they do this, they expect us to pay for their blunder by raising the price on everything else. Good video.
Yes exactly no need for a product like this.
What about the benefits of that huge medium format sensor?? That medium format “look” and it’s inherently better low light, high iso performance is enough for me.
Not sure its for me. 100mp point and shoot.
I actually bought a Fuji GSW670iii Medium Format film camera new back in the day… but this rumored camera makes no sense to me. For 100mpix you absolutely need ibis or a tripod to get critical sharpness (and why have a super light camera if you’re packing a tripod?).
Yes absolutely agree! Crazy!
I think it would be a 28mm f3.2 full frame equivalent. I shoot a lot of film with a Nikon 28mm 3.5 ais lens, and it’s preformed excellent for me. I don’t think an ultra fast 28mm is necessary. It may not have ibis, but I am sure this camera will have excellent high ISO to achieve a more than adequate shutter speed. I am kinda excited about it. Hopefully it won’t be over $3K….
F3.5 would probably be ideal, it’s already medium format so trying to make it ultra compact but still heavier and slower than full frame or aps-c options is a miss. I do think the 28 equivalent is a good idea though especially with the built in crop/framing options you get a lot more flexibility. No IBS does restrict its use a lot though and compared to other options out there this would be a very niche audience compared to just buying a 50r or 100s and adapting a smaller lens to it.
As a Hasselblad film shooter with a 500cm and a 553elx, I have been looking at the Hasselblad 907x CFV 100C with the XCD 2,5/38V. Again this set up does not have IBIS. The Fujifilm will be considerably cheaper than the Hasselblad so I think the will find there is a market for a medium format X100, just like Hasselblad and Leica have their users that are willing to pay for that little bit of special but it won't be for everyone.
Oh yes don’t get me wrong I’m sure they will have a market for it but it makes no sense to me as it will be a very niche market. The size alone will get a lot of folks.
It'll be out of my price range, but a field camera for specific landscape uses, i wouldn't be surprised if it came with an optional TCL and WCL like the X100 making it more flexible
I'm sure it'll be optically amazing, just very specific use case, the Leica Q3 and the X100VI are cameras that cover so many genres and uses.
This camera I think will be used by a very few people in very specific circumstances.... sure at F/5.6 1/500 on a nice day you can do street photography without IBIS and have perfectly sharp photos... but there are better options more affordable (especially for a genre where the story/moment matters more than the actual photo quality)
I think the compromises to get it down to the size of the X-Pro3 are not needed, I love the X100VI, its size and weight are perfect for carrying around, but I really don't see the point in this camera for anyone that needs anything more than a field camera.
To me if it was going to have a small F/4 lens, i'd rather have seen a 50mm Eqv lens something in the normal range, and at 50mm it would be able to do portraiture using the full sensor with an eqv. F/3.2 you'd still be able to get a nice somewhat shallow DOF an F/2.8 lens would have been better even if it was bigger, considering the X-Pro 3 is not a large camera, (it's not like the lens on the q3 is a pancake lens)
This camera won’t be cheap. There is no way I would buy it.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography It's almost like a proof of concept camera, making a medium format digital camera small like the old fuji film medium format cameras. But the compromises just don't make sense to me.
It will be too expensive even if it is released at half the price of a Q3 (£3000) which i highly doubt.
I'd not buy it, the F/4 doesn't really bother me if i can control the lighting, but the focal length is just not that useful to me.
If the GFX100RF is £5000 and If i was going to drop £5000+ on a camera with one lens, I'd get the GFX 100 s II with the 63mm F/2.8....
The F4 decision would be for weight and compactness. But im like you it doesn’t really excite.
Yes that is correct about the f4 decision
Agreed. XPro4 is what I want to see.
Lester - Absolutely, a major problem in my view. Who cares about a 100 MP point and shoot
In the same concept I’d love Ricoh to make a full frame Ricoh GR :)
Now that would be something.
100% right Kirk. Hoping this rumor isn't true and like you, if Fuji comes out with any camera - it should be an updated X-Pro. For that matter, how about an update to my beloved X70. This rumored camera seems to be a camera nobody asked for.
Yes really no need for this camera Steve!
Make it monochrome !
I want a 50r in monochrome
Instead Fujifilm might soon release their weather sealed medium format action cam with internal pro res raw, time code generator + jamming, 32 bit float audio, optional mobile control app for all video and audio functions, interchangeable lens. $900 us , made in japan
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I'm with you with this camera. It doesn't make sense to me regarding the fixed lens choice, pricing and ibis. I also want an xpro4 but if I was into a fixed lens high end camera, a leica q3 sounds a lot more appealing than this GFX 100RF.
My thoughts exactly
Great video 😂 yes, where is the x pro 4. true!!!
Absolutely!!!
Would love a fixed lens. Fast and in the 40's. No need for IBIS Hope they do it before I get back into Leica
If you can afford it just go get a Q3 43 and call it a day.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Yeah the 43 is of interest. I am retired from photography but can't seen to stop. Like traveling light and easy.
Stabilization is the main thing that you need for "running and gunning". And with the new laws going into effect "world wide' in the next 2 years, Photoing any will be against the law, So if you use any camera, you will on the run.
Interesting
exactly! a X-pro4 is what we really need.
Yes where is the X-Pro 4/5
Agree, no fix lenses.
I agree Mark not a fan of fixed lenses.
Personally I miss the Bronica RF 645 (should never have sold it) if Fuji makes something similar then, wow.
Until you actually use MF you won’t appreciate the benefits.
But it’s slow…You have to be very disciplined and deliberate.
Re: the X-Pro4 yes long over due.
I have a full RF 645 kit available if you are interested. 😊
I loved using the 50r but I can't wait for the XProxxx
maybe we should not completely trust the rumours? you don't think Fufjifilm would have thought of the difficulty of using a camera with 100MP and not IBIS? Or perhaps they assume people will use higher ISO to make it work for lower light - that's perhaps not a completely ridiculous assumption, is it? do you really need to shoot everything at 100 ISO?
Maybe Fujirumors is all hot air ... we shall see.
Everyone is missing the fact that this will also be Fuji’s answer to all those photographers asking for a digital XPan camera
This 100RF will have gfx sensor, 65:24 shooting mode, 28mm equivalent lens (most popular xpan lens equivalent)
Those 3 factors above equals to heavenly X-Pan shooting
Because the 65:24 cuts image resolution in half, that would roughly be 50mp Xpan images. Not a bad trade off considering they are trying to put it in an XPro sized camera
Then you will see influencer yt vids going crazy for it.
Well put thanks for adding your thoughts on this.
I think of it as the digital equivalent of the old Fuji GW690 medium format film camera. Although that camera is lot bigger. I think I would prefer a GFX100r. As far as IBIS goes, they have these things called tripods. :)
Not sure I want to drag a tripod around with a 100mpxl point and shoot.
Can't wait for the first 1,000MP camera, only thing is you'll need your own personal data center to process your shots.
But seriously, they're just looking for any way they can to relieve you of your hard earned dosh and photographers need to wake up?
Back in the day you'd buy your Nikon F2 or your Canon F1 and 20 years later you'd still be happily shooting away with it, but now everyone wants to upgrade from what they have every year or two. It's crazy!
Two years ago I bought a mint/boxed 50r with 720 actuations. Think about that, someone took 720 photos with a camera then lost around two grand getting rid of it? Meanwhile, I'm still using the same x-t1 I bought second hand a decade ago.
90-95% of photography is NOT about equipment at all, it's about being there and recognising what constitutes a good image.
So be happy with what you already have and use the money instead on that exotic photo trip you've always dreamed of taking.
I guarantee it will make you a better photographer than having any upgrades or more megapixels.
My GFX50r sits on a copy stand I mostly shoot with my Nikon ZF
I agree with all of it. But I've shot with the 50r and loved the results.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Don't get me wrong I love using my 50r, but I wouldn't be enticed into changing it for a 100mp Fuji, and certainly not for a fixed lens rangefinder?
My point is that photographers are encouraged to keep trading up to the "next best thing" for new features they think they need, yet if there were no new models they would have been quite content with what they are already using.
Suddenly they think the "need" IBIS, or Subject Detection AF, or more Megapixels, when in fact they got by without any of those things until now. If people concentrated more on subject matter and composition and trained their eye to recognise a good photo opportunity it would cost them nothing and would improve their photography way more than any amount of megapixels?
The GFX 100 RF could be nice with a tilt-shift 35mm f4 to work with a tripod, so a MF lens and the EVF used in the 100 II for a cheap price around 6000 $ without EVF (optional).
Interesting angle on the camera. Not a bad idea.
are you joking? a T/S lens would be huge!
@@antonroux6737 a Nikkor-PC 28mm f/4 is it huge?
Have they confirmed that this is the camera they're releasing, because if it is that is crazy, are they trying to get back to something like the GA645 or GSW690, not anything most people need these days.
Interestingly Fuji Rumors is usually pretty accurate in their rumors. So my guess is we will see it. Nothing has been confirmed but I bet it’s a pretty solid bet.
That f/4 will actually be a f/3.2 for what it's worth.
Depth of field wise yes but not light gathering
it's dumb to lose faith in a brand because one of its models is not for you - this would be a good backup camera (still in medium format) that could allow taking photos when it's not safe to change lenses - actually having a fixed lens is good for this purpose because you are not going to be putting other lenses on a second body in a dodgy environment anyway (and you shouldn't travel or transport camera bodies with any lenses attached); it could be for those who are okay with a fixed lens; so many possibilities; of course if you need interchangeable lenses then why are you dissing a product that's not for you? Or perhaps you can't justify an additional camera for medium format photos in a compact package? I would consider this if I wanted an additional camera body or in the future if I no longer needed to use some of the focal lengths I use today.
I have not lost faith in Fuifilm or I would have sold out long ago and gone back to Canon. I'm questioning their MARKETING DEPT because that is where this is coming from!
Couldn’t agree more.
I agree with you
I was really hoping for a new and improved 50R with ibis and an updated sensor. I’m not sure what Fuji was thinking.
A super-fast backlit 50mp sensor would be amazing.
Actually I was hoping for the same thing!
no ibis makes no sense but most medium format lenses are f3.5 to f4
Makes no sense, but I’m sure they will be selling a ton of them.
Megapixel Mania at its toxic extreme. I’ve just bought a used X-T3 @ 26 mp and couldn’t be more pleased.
Yes exactly!
I want a Fuji camera with AF that works 😂
I think you will get a resounding YES from all Fuji people!
AF works for me, for my applications is completely satisfactory
We share the same sentiments. Subscribed
Thanks Wil!
If it has a hybrid viewfinder I’m interested. If not, I’ll pass. 35mm is a great focal length.
It will be curious to see what they come up with.
where's my 50R II with IBIS and 4k video
Good luck with that. No need for video but with that sensor it should be 6K 29.99 fps
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography I agree but given that the 100s ii is only 4k/30 I wouldn't dare get my hopes up
An 35mm f4 is not 28 f4 on a FF , it is 28mm field of view with 35mm f3.2 depth of field. 45 f2.8 is then 35 f2.2 and the best option would be 35 f3.2 on this camera giving you 28 f2.2 and option to crop all other focal lengths.
But it’s still an f4 aperture as far as light gathering goes. Yes you are correct with the calculations. I want a 45 2.8 which is a 35 field of view
Gfx100sii is an incredible camera why this exists I have no idea. Guess the whole fixed lens pandering thing
Yes I agree!
It would all make sense if the RF is going to be a panoramic camera - a digital xpan.
Now that would be interesting
Sounds very similar to their old film cameras. I'm with you on the X-Pro IV, but the GFX 100RF sounds cool, but I won't buy it. I mainly want them to fix their AF, I returned my x-H2S because it wasn't competitive, with cameras in that price range. On the other hand I just finally got my x100VI I ordered in March or April, and the AF seems fine for what I use it for. I did like their GFX50R and an updated version with IBIS. I assume the GFX 100RF would have a leaf shutter, that would be cool if you like to use an ND filter and high speed sync, yes, it could be very expensive, but cool.
An updated 50r with IBIS would be great.
Let’s see some output
When it comes out we will get to see some output
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography , I know. I suspend judgment till then, but I foresee a peerless landscape and travel camera for producing expansive images with sublime color depth. This is not for the spray and pray crowd but for intentional photographers: a niche.
GFX100R would be amazing - esp monochrome. But not going to happen sadly... 50R mono would be nice - but too niche for Fuji. Leica, Phase One and Pentax have monochrome sensors.
I would love to see a 50R Monochrom
I want an x-pro4 !!!l
Me too not a 100mp point and shoot.
I'm with you Kirk. There's always going to be a group of people that will buy it but I don't think it will be popular with the Fuji faithful and those trying to decide whether to get into the X-Mount or GF system. I would first like to see a few other things.: Better autofocus via firmware for my X-T3 (unlikely), an EVF for the hot shoe of the new XM-5 (I would love to use one as a vacation kit, street shooting kit), an XE-5 body, the next X Pro as you said. Maybe Santa Claus can help all of us....
I’m hoping Santa gets involved.
I want the X-Pro4, but I also want the GFX 100RF. F4 is a big turn off tho.
Me too it makes much more sense. Now that being said a 50R with the 50mm 3.5 would be an interesting setup.
Why? Why did Fuji have success with medium format cameras with a fixed lens 50 years ago? Texas Leica! GSW, GS 645 models? There were 10-12 GS 645 models! All with a fixed lens! Professional photographers love these cameras and these cameras were a great success for Fuji! And the Fujifilm gfx 100 rf will be too! An amateur photographer like you won't understand that. But that's not important 😊
I’ve been a professional for 46 years. Those film models are beasts. Still makes no sense to me.
Where’s my XT5 firmware update? That’s the only thing I care about.
Same here. I’ve been having camera lockup issues lately
Do you think rumours of a full frame are true?
No way will they get into full frame world. They can't produce anything close to Canon, Nikon and Sony.
They don't have any FF lenses, so it makes no sense to me. I can see them pushing Medium Format harder ... it will relieve you of lots more cash.
After the first iteration of an oversized point and shoot, they'll include goodies like ibis, etc. You'll obviously have to upgrade to that!
Over the last few years the Kaisen philosophy seems to have been abandoned .... sad.
GFX series of lenses are above my pay grade (as are the bodies).
its a medium format!i hope you know allready!thx
Yes of course that’s why it makes no sense to me.
I think the LQ's 28 43 have it easypeasy (fixed lens / no TC's)
All the LQ’s have the ability to use a digital crop and or triple resolution. Which comes at a crazy price for a camera.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography Range Finder Crazy.............X100V seems to be (even at a crazy price for what it is) sensible ;-)
If you shoot street photography and only in good daylight maybe this is your puppy.
Maybe they are trying to reach just the point and shoot crowd.
Not worth a nickel to me. I wouldn’t own one.
As much as I like my Fujifilm and I am highly invested in it. They keep putting out cameras that give me no upgrade path. I am patiently awaiting the XPro 4.
You and me both Russell. I would love to have a discussion with their marketing dept.
I won’t be buying it. It has no IBIS and has a slow lens.
It doesn’t make sense to me.
I was hoping for an interchangeable lens rangefinder style camera with IBIS and improved auto focus, basically an upgrade of the GFX50R.
Same here! Guess not.
May be it's a niche product for people with disposable income to brag about (like a Leica Q3)
The size is a big deal. I have a GFX 50R now 10 years old and it’s huge in comparison. Yes it will be expensive.
Agreed! I can’t see any indication that there’s a demand for this, let alone the lack of interchangeable lenses and IBIS. Fuji may indeed have a rare flop on their hands
Makes no sense to me at all. I bet they are thinking the tik tokers will be all over it.
It's not for me either. But why not think of it as Fuji's version of thr Sony RX1R? I'm sure it will have manual controls. Lack of IBIS and f4 or 3.5 seem like bad ideas, a 2.8 would ne nice. I'm sure it will be over $4k. It doesn't anger me that they build products I don't want. On its own, has nothing to do with XPro development or AF issues.
Yes true. But i'm a bit pragmatic about this stuff. An X-Pro body would bring in more money if that's what they are after.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography but I doubt X-Pro and this camera are a choice they are making. If the X-Pro isn't in development already, its probably done. And maybe it should be. Would you sell your XT5 and buy a new X-Pro4? I wouldn't. I enjoy your frank videos, thanks!
35 or 45 f2.8 … would be ok
35 or 45 f2 … i would run to get one …
But 35 f4 … :-/
I think it’s more viable as a 50mp with a 35 ff equivalent f2.8
It's not what you say but how you say it.
Haha good one!
Agree completely. It makes no sense. And yes, where’s my X-Pro4!!! Now, what Fuji should do IMHO is make an updated version of my favorite medium format film cameras…the Fuji GW690 and GSW690 with 6 X 9 negatives! 😊
Yes I agree. Are they working on something special for the X-Pro 4/5. Probably not.
They will produce X PRO 5 İN 2026
By that time I’ll be using just the GFX gear I hope.
Thanks for this latest video: FujiRumors Latest on the a GFX 100RF fixed lens camera in 2025. I am in total agreement when I read what this camera will be compromised of. It really gave me the impression the FujiFilm designers and engineers are being rushed by the Executives, to come up with a new, “fixed lens, 100MP Medium Format camera.” Right now, to us who have read or heard about this, it sounds like Fujifilm’s New Product Team, put a new puzzle together and the pieces didn’t fit in the right spaces. Besides, what the price will be $,$$$$? How could Fujifilm disgrace their customer base with a New Product such as what has been rumored. What a disgrace!!
Totally agree!
Fujifilm has taken their finger off the pulse of their customer base. They're losing us.
I believe you are correct, major blunder as far as I’m concerned.
Now I know I don't need it!
Yes exactly!!!
“Tin-Foil” hat time…Perhaps Fuji is prepping us, XF Shooters that they are going all GFX in the coming years. The massive FW Update failures and the current update seem only so-so (though most reviews are Videocentric). As I do not shoot with the XH platform I can not comment on the improvement (if any) with the new firmware and as the release of the X-T5 version is being slow-walked frankly seems a little suspicious to me. The aforementioned GFX 100RF is generating a lot of buzz…yet not the slightest reference to a possible X-Pro 4/5, which like you, I am saving my pennies for. Honestly, I am getting this vibe that Fuji is looking to abandon the FX line or at least, produce subpar, mediocre gear going forward, not-so-subtly “encouraging” serious FX shooters to step it up, gear-wise.
Yes it is suspicious not sure what the heck they are up to!
don't buy anything at the moment. wait a year or two and get the new 247 mp camera that is sure to come out with Sony's new sensor
I’ll be looking at buying a used Leica Q3 as my only camera at that point. Dump everything else
I just want fuji to do a full frame camera and make AF better..
Nope they won't.
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography 😂😂 Agreed, can only dream.
I’m with you Kirk, This is a terrible idea! This is Fujifilm rolling over and reaping the money. I get their a business and businesses love money. But lately Fujifilm has became a laughing stock within the profession lane. They’re pandering to the content and TikTok creators. While this is fine but however they’re never I repeat NEVER gonna release a full frame camera. Professionals have been pushed aside to produce these cameras that are aimed at the wrong demographic that are loyal to their brand. Something new will come along and they’ll jump ship and they’ll be left in the dust grasping at straws.
Ya I'm not sure what they are thinking besides follow the creator money. Dumb idea!
Well, they are laughing all the way to the bank. Their profits are quite good right now. I think its more likely a statement product that not a lot of people will buy. But it will cement them as a player in the fixed lens, street camera market and help sell lesser models.
don't agree with this at all
n any event, most people only consume photos and videos on relatively small phone screens, and not on extremely high resolution monitors. I in general just scroll though my images - to remember a "moment".Fujiflm creates nice pleasing colours and I appreciate that. I would rather spend money on visiting places then blowing out case on a camera. I am pretty sure you have all the cameras you need to capture moments. So maybe go on holiday instead - and stop fixating on the X-Pro 4. In reality how it is going to enrich your life?
I print my images. You might consider printing your favorite images instead of staring at them on your phone. That’s why a larger sensor is important to me
@@KirkWilliamsonphotography I don't look at them on my phone at all actually. I generally view them on my 15 inch laptop. Printing images assumes you have somewhere to put them - not all of us are lucky enough to have a lot of "wall space". But as far as I understand, unless you are blowing prints up really large (in which case you also need to invest in quite an expensive printer and ink), you are not going to see a lot of difference between an print from a 26MP and 40MP, especially if you are viewing it from several feet away?
If you’re having troubles with Fuji then buy a Nikon. I AM NIKON
Never - If I did I would go back to Canon.
Maybe to put things in of context for a bit. This whole argument about megapixels makes me a bit bored. If you think about it a bit more - the restriction on film cameras equivalent to what you were talking about in terms of the sensor, was the "film" you put into a camera. The discussions were based on lenses and how to take photos - "seeing" the image etc.
All cameras now are pretty good - and you seem to be getting hyper angry.
Maybe just go back to talking using film - remember you had to "think" a lot before even taking a photo.
So if you don't like the idea of this camera - just don't buy it. The cameras you already have are already really good. Chill out :D
You are partially correct. I’ll be shooting more film with my M5 from 1971.
f2.8 or with ibis should suffice... but they didnt do it. This is a pass specially on night shooting
A pass for me as well
Get your wallet out, its just money. If the RUclipsrs play it up it will sell out and be in shortage. Like you, i would love to see a new x-pro. And maybe, get us the promised autofocus fix for my xt5. Merry Christmas.
I hope Santa gets involved with AF on the XT5! One thing is for sure I’m not going to push the new point and shoot.
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I'm a big pass on this baby!
Same here!!!
physics dictates the limits that's why a F4 lens is likely necessary. -- 100MP is too demanding, going lower likely compromises picture resolution vs size.
Then why do they make a really well regarded 45 f 2.8 and 32-64 f 2.8. These two lenses are top notch. My guess is it's all about weight and size. Which I failed to mention. If you are going to make a medium format point and shoot it better be smaller and lighter than a normal sized medium format. The lenses I mentioned are not small or light. The 45 is actually not bad in this regard.