You guys want to know a bit of history? The American general in change of this division, General Clark, wanted some glory and whipped himself into a frenzy at the thought of the British 'beating' him to Rome. So ignoring the order of his British superior officer to complete the encirclement of the German 10th army and link up with British units to close the pocket, he instead took his division and ran off to Rome to wave the flag in front of the coliseum. This allowed the German army to escape and link up at the next defensive line, an act which would mean thousands more American and Allied lives lost taking ground from soldiers they could have killed and captured with minimal loss had Clark not listened to his own ego.
Nice try, but you might want to get your facts straight...what division did General Clark command? Gen. Mark Clark was the commander of the 5th Army, not a single division. He had no "superior British officer." The 5th Army was comprised of American, British, Canadian, Brazilian, Polish and Free French units. He pretty much called the shots in Italy.
His superior officer was General Alexander, who ordered him to ignore Rome and round up the retreating Germans, He preferred the picture opportunity of going straight to Rome, It did him little good as the D-day invasion of France took all the front pages and the men of the 8th Army and the 5th Army had to fight the Germans who had escaped thanks to Clark insubordination in the mountains of Northern Italy through the winter of 1944/45.
My dad fought at Ortona. It was the Canadians there not the British, in fact the Canadian, Australian, New Zealander and Indian Armies played a very significant role in the Italian campaign.
@@loreCarbonell Thank you, unfortunately we lost him a few years ago. I visit the cemetary in Ortona when I am there around November 11. It is good to see that so many people come out. We have a house near Avezzano.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The American Forces that entered Rome were common Infantry. There were NO GERMANS IN ROME. They had all retreated after the Canadians broke the Melfa Line and forced the Germans into retreat. Gen Mark Clark's orders were to capture the German 10th Army, and then Rome. Instead, he went straight to Rome and the German 10th Army doubled the total amount of Allied casualties in Italy after they escaped.
If that is true then even your own Canadian media has not documented that very well because I saw a CBC documentary that stated US forces liberated Rome and Paris. Canadian media needs to do better job for you guys.
@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 It's common knowledge amongst historians and those who follow WW2 events that Clark disobeyed orders so he could enter Rome first. He failed to cut off the German 10th army. This is a fact, not an opinion. Hollywood writes WW2 history, not Canadian media.
General Clark ignored orders from his superiors by moving his troops to take Rome, which allowed the Germans to retreat and establish another fortified line. Clark was desperate to get there before the British, who would take the glory. Clark should have been fired for seriously compromising the allied strategy which was to destroy German forces as quickly as possible.
Geoff M Right, I read your comment and thought I'd written so yes, I agree. Canadians were told to go off to another destination and the U.S came in with their cameras for the newspapers and took credit for many other things too.
@@Osayannx. Actually Rome was left undefended so Clarke’s decision to take it was pretty awful. But being undefended prompted British news media to take a look. They got there before the Americans!! So all those films of the brave Americans marching into Rome were taken by unarmed British news people. Hence the title of this film which mentions the British film units.
Or he chose to secure a massive civilian population and world city in order to spare it and its people destruction. Wars are not conducted in a vacuum, there are considerations other than 'destroy, destroy, destroy' to take into account.
Thanks for placing on RUclips. This is the first I remember seeing this much on the invasion of Italy as most is of the D-DAY invasion through France. Once a local tour guide from Rome driving past Naples for us to see Pompeii for a day trip there and back to Rome menioned to us how the valley between the two mountain ranges on both sides of the highway we were taking to get there was where German and Allied forces fought it out during world war two.
Well, actually a couple of areas in Rome were bombed before the city was taken. The American forces (using mostly B-17s) did a massive but carefully planned raid on the city to destroy steel production areas, the rail yard, and the main airport, yet avoid as many civilians as possible. The British also did several raids of their own.
I believe it is José Ferrer. Do you remember his role as a JAG attorney heading the court martial Lt Cmdr Quig in the film, "Mutiny on the Cain"? It starred Humphrey Bogart, Fred Mac Murry, and Van Johnson? I thought José Ferrer did a splendid job in that movie!
I'm not bitter, but Clark was a horrible commander. He completely ignored previous orders to trap the German 10th army and drove into Rome anyway. Absolute insubordination.
Lest we forget the army that break the front through was the French Army 🇫🇷. French Army 🇫🇷 then took Rome first and hanged their flag on the city. France continue its advance until Sierra after which the army started the landing in France. Among this 112000 French soldiers (representing the third of all the effectives, 30 000 were killed or injured)
Liberation from the Germans. Technically, Italy was in war with Germany after the fall of Mussolini and a new Italian Government was formed declaring war to the Nazis (A big flip).
@@64MDW, The Americans were beat at Anzio and Monte Cassino. The British 8th army had to extend over from the Adriatic to punch through at Casino and take the Liri Valley ( Clark' original objective ). After the Germans were driven back, Clark demanded the Canadian I Corp get off the roads so he could be first into Rome and he would shoot them if they didn't. The Canadians promised to shoot back.
The First Canadian Army broke the Melfa Line, sending Germans in retreat past Rome. They had the toughest fight and received disproportional heavy casualties compared to the rest of the Allies. 26 miles away, 2 hours out, the Canadians were ordered to stop so General Mark Clark's army could capture the retreating 10th Army and liberate Rome. He instead chose to simply liberate Rome for glory, letting the 10th escape and double Allied casualties. The Canadians rode through at 3AM without pomp or
Clark entered Rome WHILE THE BRITISH FENDED OFF GERMANS .Clark was told not to enter Rome . Clark sucked up glory in Rome as British soldiers clashed with Germans.
The British force ("Peter Beach")[edit] This force attacked the coast 6 miles (9.7 km) north of Anzio. 1st British Infantry Division 2nd Infantry Brigade 1st Battalion, Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire) 2nd Battalion, North Staffordshire Regiment 6th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders 3rd Infantry Brigade 1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington's Regiment 1st Battalion, King's Shropshire Light Infantry 2nd Battalion, Sherwood Foresters 24th Guards Brigade 5th Battalion, Grenadier Guards 1st Battalion, Irish Guards 1st Battalion, Scots Guards 1st Reconnaissance Regiment, Reconnaissance Corps 2/7th Battalion, Middlesex Regiment 2nd, 19th & 67th Field Regiments, Royal Artillery 81st Anti-tank Regiment, Royal Artillery 90th Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, Royal Artillery 23rd, 238th & 248th Field Companies, Royal Engineers 6th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers 1st Bridging Platoon, Royal Engineers 46th Royal Tank Regiment 2nd Special Service Brigade (partial) No. 9 Commando No.43 (Royal Marine) Commando No 1, 2 & 3 Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps 18th Infantry Brigade (February to August 1944) 1st Battalion, Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment)
+Mark Kelly Yes, the United States claimed victory when in fact it was the Canadians who liberated Rome etc. I think the people of the U.S. today still believe they deserve all of the glory for liberating Europe during WW2. Not so, but hey, this made for a real bang up RUclips show!!
The Canadians busted through the Adolph Hitler line and had a clear path to Rome through the Liri Valley 4 days before the Americans got there. The German Army had declared Rome an "open city" and unoccupied meaning the Canadians could have walked right in, but they were ordered to hold and put on reserve. Once the German defense line was penetrated, they began to quickly retreat. U.S. General Clark was supposed to cut off the retreat and trap the 10th German army but ignored his orders and charged towards an undefended Rome instead. Clark's decision to feed his ego and run for Rome is considered one of the biggest military fuckups in WW2 as it allowed most of the German 10th to escape! This is fact you can easily confirm with Google.
I once worked for District Attorney Thomas Lee Woolwine in LA. and let me tell you, that guy was on the take. Thats all I can tell you as I fear for my life.
Italy should've been left to its own devices. The entire Italian campaign was a German general's wet dream. So many allied lives lost for very little gain.
yeah. the fight from the south to the north was tough. German moved in and similar to the Japanese on Okinawa, would establish a line fight, then fall back a few dozen miles and do the same thing over and over.
The glory-hound Mark Clark robbed the Canadian armored units of the honor of being the first Allied units to enter Rome and liberate the city. But the Germans had withdrawn from the city and it was entered without a fight by the U.S. 5th Army: Rome was not taken from the Wehrmacht, which had abandoned the city.
yank1776 - A political general, grandstander and racist to his Black soldiers under his command also, undercutting them at every turn, even giving decorations they earned in battle to other units...
I would say that liberated is the right word to be used. Considering that Allied freed us from Nazi Fascism and feed Italians liberating them from hunger I would sau that Liberation is the right word, unless you preferred the Nazi fascist regime. But this is not my case and that of millions of Italians that crowded the street of Italy in 1944-1945 to welcome tge liberators.
General Mark Clark Liberated Rome...let the Germans go up country to establish another line of defence....the Rome crowds...rightly so cheered..history was sated...luckily D Day overshadowed big EGOs
As I understood it he was supposed to swing east, connect with the British/Canadian forces and cut of the German lines of retreat. Instead he went for Rome and the glory and the Germans slipped away.
The Allied 5th army walked in from the South, but it was the Canadian 1st army that liberated it and was first in at 3 AM, then our orders where to move on north and let the 5th move in during the day, making our victory forgoten by many as one by the US. If a history book sais the US liberated Rome, though it out, it's wrong.
I remember Gina Lollobridgda I know I got the name wrong but I remember her from films in Italy near to those days. There was an Italian family living in my neighbourhood in Trinidad in the West Indies
Great celebration, Rome is liberated from Nazism! But the US commander directly ignored his orders, and broke off from active combat to have this little jolly. With the result that the Nazis, who had been on the run, were able to re-group and form new defences. This parade was a disaster, and cost many Allied soldiers their lives, The continued combat meant ongoing destruction of Italy and civilian deaths as well. The US commander who ordered this parade was removed from his post, rightly so. He should have been court-martialed.
Italy signed a armistice agreement with the Allies, formed a new government and declared war on Germany who subsequently invaded them. So yes Liberation is the correct term as Italy was occupied by a belligerent.
But remember that after he was freed by the Germans, Mussolini also formed a new fascist government in northern Italy called the Italian Social Republic, which continued to the war on the axis side until the end. So it would be more correct to say it was half liberated and half conquered.
@@markthecenturion The Social Republic was a puppet state of Germany, the legitimate government was the Kingdom in the South. Also, Italy declared war on Germany AFTER being invaded
My father and uncle were in those battles with 8th Army. ( CDN 1st INF DIV ). Serious bad blood was developed between the Americans and Canadians after Patton without warning deserted the Canadian left flank in Sicily to go on a useless and costly " end-around ". It got worse. Clark sat and sulked at Anzio because they took his shipping away for the Normandy invasion. And the rest of the American troops were stuck at Monte Cassino and were exhausted. The Canadians were brought over from the Adriatic side as the British 8th extended west to Casino . The British, Canadians, Poles, and the Free French broke through the Gustav and Hitler line and the Canadian I Corp was on the way to Rome and relieved Anzio. At this point Clark demanded that the Canadians get off the roads and let the Americans be the first into Rome, and that they would shoot anyone who got in the way, the Canadians promised to shoot back. Cool heads prevailed and the Americans were " officially " the first to enter Rome. At the start of the campaign, it was felt prudent to keep Canadians between the British and Americans. After Patton's desertion and for the rest of the war, they kept British troops between the Americans and Canadians. Notice how NO American produced newsreel or documentary every mentions the Canadians.
Canadian 1st Division were nicknamed "Red Patch Devils" and German 1st Parachute (nicknamed Green Devils) considered at the time to be the best of any division on either side were always put head to head during the Italy Campaign and produced some of the most intense fights during WW2.
Americans are inherently show offs i mean look at their last president Trump. America is a great country but they turn into the worst AHoles when they dont get their way.
I'm confused I watch beachhead Anzio where is was stated that there was very little opposition when they landed here they say they were heavily opposed. WHICH WAS IT?
@ CanadianStereotype ... Read the Unit History Book of the First Special Service Force. They were the ones who siezed the 7 bridges over the Tiber River. My father's commanding general, General Frederick was badly wounded while securing one of those bridges. On a hill outside of Rome my father's squad ambushed a rear guard unit from the Hermann Goering Panzer Division. 4 assualt guns were destroyed by bazookas and 50 krauts were killed or captured while 4 of my father's men were wounded.
To all the armchair generals...could you have done better having to deal with the mountains, the mud, the rain, the politics and the challenges of logistics and dealing with a contrary Italian government? Step up and show us with 70 years of hindsight that you'd do any better. Otherwise, shut up and watch the sacrifices of better men than you could ever hope to be.
Sounds like they got Barney Greenwald to take a break from defending U.S. Navy sailors from mutiny charges to narrate this news reel. Good job Barney !
@@seedsofwisdom4u Despite there were still German troops occupying the area, I do not understand the reason the Allies wanted to bomb Rome at least 16 times. They hit residential working class districts with no strategical interest (local residents were already expelling the Nazis on their own). The area I came from (13 miles south of Rome) has been severely bombed by the allies. 70% of the buildings were completely destroyed (including the historical ones) Lot of civilians died and again, there were no strategical targets within those cities. Presumably Americans were looking for Leopold, a railway gun which kept them busy in Anzio. But this doesn't justify the amount of destruction and human loss. Local population was shot on the ground by the Nazis and bombed from the sky by the Allies. And now we all drink CocaCola and eat at McDonalds.
triumph, thanks to the American's horrible sense of glory-hounding. Don't let history be written by the victor, let it be written by everyone who was there.
Near STIA AREZZO TUSCANY Where I live , there was a small village called VALLUCCIOLE valley of fireflies in the spring of 1944 in these valleys were active partisan groups and in those days killed an officer and several soldiers ss You must know that beautiful place at the foot of the falterona mountain was swept away with inhuman ferocity where life lost all those old women and children men were all at the front or Abandoned to themselves by the Fascist regime, look at what the Germans did to Greece's Cephalonia Against Italian soldiers .Today in 2017 there is only the cemetery surrounded by fir trees There are so many babies some of them had few days and months of age In this years there is civil war in italy partisan vs fascist total caos from 43 to 45 Many Italians were not fascists You had to accept dictatorship, democracy did not exist anymore You had to be careful otherwise your family was over my grandfather was not fascist for example but You had to pretend to be fascist but in reality the Italians did not want this fucking war only the fascists wanted it check what the Fascists did in Italy with the gestapo and Ss List of massacres in Italy only 1944 29 September - 5 October 1944, Marzabotto massacre (Marzabotto, Emilia-Romagna; between 770 and 1,830 civilians killed) 12 August 1944, Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre (Sant'Anna di Stazzema, Tuscany; 560 people, including children) 29 June 1944, Civitella-Cornia-San Pancrazio massacre (Abruzzo; 203 people, including children) Ardeatine massacre (Rome, Lazio; 335 prisoners executed) Boves massacre (Cuneo, Piedmont; 189 civilians and partisans killed in two separate massacres)[25] Padule Fucecchio massacre (Fucecchio, Tuscany; 176 civilians killed on 23 August 1944)[26] Cavriglia-Castelnuovo dei Sabbioni massacre (Tuscany; 173 civilians killed on 4 July 1944)[26] Vinca massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; between 160[27] and 178[28] civilians executed on 24 August 1944) Fosse del Frigido massacre (Massa, Tuscany; 146-149 prisoners murdered on 10 September 1944)[28] Pietransieri massacre (Roccaraso, Abruzzo; 128 civilians killed on 21 November 1943)[29] Stia massacre (Stia, Tuscany; 122 civilians killed between 12 and 15 April 1944)[27] San Terenzo Monti massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 110 civilians and 52 political prisoners killed on 21 August 1944)[27] Valla massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 103 civilians killed on 19 August 1944)[28] Serra di Ronchidoso massacre (Gaggio Montano, Emilia-Romagna; over 100 civilians killed on 28-29 September 1944)[26] Three men executed by public hanging in a street of Rimini, 1944 Verghereto massacre (Verghereto, Emilia-Romagna; 96 civilians killed between 22 and 25 July 1944)[26] Massacre of Monchio, Susano and Costrignano (Palagano, Emilia-Romagna; between 79[27] and 136 civilians killed on 18 March 1944) Leonessa and Cumulata massacre (Leonessa, Lazio; 51 civilians killed between 2 and 7 April 1944) Cumiana massacre (Cumiana, Piedmont; 51 civilians killed on 3 April 1944) Tavolicci massacre (Verghereto, Emilia-Romagna; 64 civilians killed on 22 July 1944) Forno massacre (Massa, Tuscany; 72 civilians killed on 13 June 1944) Gubbio mssacre (Gubbio, Umbria; 40 civilians executed on 22 June 1944)[27] Valdine massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 52 hostages executed in August 1944)[27] Casaglia massacre (Marzabotto, Emilia-Romagna; 42 civilians killed on 29 September 1944)[27] Bergiola Foscalina (it) massacre in Carrara (Carrara, Tuscany; 72 civilians killed on 16 September 1944)[26] Madonna dell'Albero massacre (Ravenna, Emilia-Romagna; 56 civilians killed on 27 November 1944) "La Romagna" massacre (Molina di Quosa, San Giuliano Terme, Tuscany; 75 civilians killed on 11 August 1944)[26] San Polo di Arezzo massacre (Arezzo, Tuscany; 65 civilians killed on 14 July 1944)[26] Certosa di Farneta massacre (Lucca, Tuscany; 60 civilians killed between 2 and 10 September 1944)[26] Guardistallo massacre (Guardistallo, Tuscany; 46 civilians killed on 29 June 1944)[26] Massaciuccoli-Massarosa massacre (Massaciuccoli, Massarosa, Tuscany; 41 civilians killed between 2 and 5 September 1944)[26] Fossoli-Carpi massacre (Carpi, Emilia-Romagna; 67 civilians killed on 12 July 1944)[26] Turchino Pass massacre (Fontanafredda, Liguria; 59 civilians executed on 19 May 1944)[28] Pedescala massacre (Valdastico, Veneto; 82 civilians killed between 30 April and 2 May 1945)[28]
Read John Ellis "Casino" and you will learn that hadn't it been for General Juin and his four excellent french divisions, there would not have been an entry of Rome in June 1944. American and British forces where rather incompetent in mountain warfare. As for Casino it was a blunder from the beginning to the end.
Italy was not occupied. One cannot liberate Italy from Italians. It is more like the Allies have conquered the enemy Italy and occupied Italy from now on.
Did you watch the film ?Those were Germans they were fighting. Germans in Italy...hmm...sounds like liberation to me . Beside, just to kick Italian fascists ass , would be good enough reason to be there.
Yes liberated. At this point the government ousted Mussolini, disbanded their party and surrendered to the allies. The germans then invaded Italy and disarmed their troops
@@timmysupreme4472 yes, but the official title of Mussolini's Italy was the kingdom of Italy. The Italian government kicked him out, and surrendered to the allies. The Italian social Republic was a German puppet state as a result of their invasion and no more. So Rome was in the hands of the Germans
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You guys want to know a bit of history? The American general in change of this division, General Clark, wanted some glory and whipped himself into a frenzy at the thought of the British 'beating' him to Rome. So ignoring the order of his British superior officer to complete the encirclement of the German 10th army and link up with British units to close the pocket, he instead took his division and ran off to Rome to wave the flag in front of the coliseum. This allowed the German army to escape and link up at the next defensive line, an act which would mean thousands more American and Allied lives lost taking ground from soldiers they could have killed and captured with minimal loss had Clark not listened to his own ego.
Lucian Truscott doesn't have much good to say about Clark. Loved the headlines. But he was personally brave. Should have stayed as a staff officer.
Nice try, but you might want to get your facts straight...what division did General Clark command? Gen. Mark Clark was the commander of the 5th Army, not a single division. He had no "superior British officer." The 5th Army was comprised of American, British, Canadian, Brazilian, Polish and Free French units. He pretty much called the shots in Italy.
@@64MDW The fact is he blew it.
His superior officer was General Alexander, who ordered him to ignore Rome and round up the retreating Germans, He preferred the picture opportunity of going straight to Rome, It did him little good as the D-day invasion of France took all the front pages and the men of the 8th Army and the 5th Army had to fight the Germans who had escaped thanks to Clark insubordination in the mountains of Northern Italy through the winter of 1944/45.
@@64MDW Alexander was his superior officer Lmao
I live in Rome around the streets it has showed. So many emotions, kinda makes you feel an awe in the presence of time!
My dad fought at Ortona. It was the Canadians there not the British, in fact the Canadian, Australian, New Zealander and Indian Armies played a very significant role in the Italian campaign.
And Brazil
Poland Army
Ortona ? I live there! If your dad is still alive give him a great hug from me
@@loreCarbonell Thank you, unfortunately we lost him a few years ago. I visit the cemetary in Ortona when I am there around November 11. It is good to see that so many people come out. We have a house near Avezzano.
you didn't mention the Poles. see the Polish Cemetery at Monte Casino.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The American Forces that entered Rome were common Infantry. There were NO GERMANS IN ROME. They had all retreated after the Canadians broke the Melfa Line and forced the Germans into retreat. Gen Mark Clark's orders were to capture the German 10th Army, and then Rome. Instead, he went straight to Rome and the German 10th Army doubled the total amount of Allied casualties in Italy after they escaped.
If that is true then even your own Canadian media has not documented that very well because I saw a CBC documentary that stated US forces liberated Rome and Paris. Canadian media needs to do better job for you guys.
@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 you Canadians are the unsung heroes many times.
@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 It's common knowledge amongst historians and those who follow WW2 events that Clark disobeyed orders so he could enter Rome first. He failed to cut off the German 10th army. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Hollywood writes WW2 history, not Canadian media.
General Clark ignored orders from his superiors by moving his troops to take Rome, which allowed the Germans to retreat and establish another fortified line. Clark was desperate to get there before the British, who would take the glory. Clark should have been fired for seriously compromising the allied strategy which was to destroy German forces as quickly as possible.
Geoff M lucky for him DDay over shadowed his actions.
Geoff M Right, I read your comment and thought I'd written so yes, I agree. Canadians were told to go off to another destination and the U.S came in with their cameras for the newspapers and took credit for many other things too.
You know your history Sir!
@@Osayannx. Actually Rome was left undefended so Clarke’s decision to take it was pretty awful.
But being undefended prompted British news media to take a look. They got there before the Americans!! So all those films of the brave Americans marching into Rome were taken by unarmed British news people.
Hence the title of this film which mentions the British film units.
Or he chose to secure a massive civilian population and world city in order to spare it and its people destruction. Wars are not conducted in a vacuum, there are considerations other than 'destroy, destroy, destroy' to take into account.
In 1985 my father and all the men in his squad were awarded the Bronze Star for what they did on that hill outside of Rome.
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How about the Canadians who suffered the most grievous fighting in the Italian campaign.
Thanks for placing on RUclips. This is the first I remember seeing this much on the invasion of Italy as most is of the D-DAY invasion through France. Once a local tour guide from Rome driving past Naples for us to see Pompeii for a day trip there and back to Rome menioned to us how the valley between the two mountain ranges on both sides of the highway we were taking to get there was where German and Allied forces fought it out during world war two.
I am so glad Rome was never bombed into near oblivion by Allied artillery and bombers.
Unlike Malta, which was mercilessly bombed. The axis sowed the wind, and reaped the whirlwind.
Well, actually a couple of areas in Rome were bombed before the city was taken. The American forces (using mostly B-17s) did a massive but carefully planned raid on the city to destroy steel production areas, the rail yard, and the main airport, yet avoid as many civilians as possible. The British also did several raids of their own.
@@johnnyfortpants1415Malta, one of the greatest nations during WW2. The entire country was given the George Cross for their actions.
in reply to 555paint: Yup that was Jose Ferrer as the narrator
Thanks from deep of my hearth to the US and allied oldiers that liberated Italy by nazi and fascists. The sacrifice of US GIs will never be forgotten.
Bastardi...
It already has been. Americans have always been more interested in France 🇫🇷 than Italy 🇮🇹.
And now, we will have to go to war again against fascism and fascists… except this time, it will be here on our homeland.
Of course, British, US and all allied forces are to be thanked and never be forgotten
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Is the narrator José Ferrer ?
It sounds like his voice.
I believe it is José Ferrer. Do you remember his role as a JAG attorney heading the court martial Lt Cmdr Quig in the film, "Mutiny on the Cain"? It starred Humphrey Bogart, Fred Mac Murry, and Van Johnson? I thought José Ferrer did a splendid job in that movie!
Thank you for sharing. I was one of the tourists who believed the Germans didn't destroy it because of its beauty!
Hitler tried to destroy Paris but it's German military governor refused to obey his order and surrendered to Free French forces instead.
@@DavBlc7 at least, thats what the history books say... and history was written by the victors.
@@DavBlc7 Hitler destroyed every bridge in Venice except one because he loved its design.
The Allied monsters destroyed my city (Lodi) completely. Garuffio Theatre, the old walls... Gone,
Stronzo, blame it on the Nazi and Fascist monsters!@@LVCIANOMANARA66
Really inspiring to hear about the Multinational Forces!
Would it happen today?
only as long as the yanks got the glory and hollywood headlines
I'm not bitter, but Clark was a horrible commander. He completely ignored previous orders to trap the German 10th army and drove into Rome anyway. Absolute insubordination.
true!
Lest we forget the army that break the front through was the French Army 🇫🇷. French Army 🇫🇷 then took Rome first and hanged their flag on the city. France continue its advance until Sierra after which the army started the landing in France. Among this 112000 French soldiers (representing the third of all the effectives, 30 000 were killed or injured)
Gostaria de ver documentários como este, mostrando o Brazil na guerra da Itália. Obrigado
Oh, Andrew, you are SPOT ON!
Interesting and informative. Wonderful film footage.
my most sincere thanks to Brits, Canadians and everyone else who helped beat the nazis
aaaarrrgggghh
Y los Estados Unidos. qué ???
Cientos de Miles de americanos perdieron la vida por liberar a Italia, Francia y el resto de Europa..y Asia...
INSTEAD OF WRITING OCCUPATION OF ROME THEY SAY LIBERATION OF ROME, LIBERATION FROM THE ITALIANS??
Liberation from the Germans. Technically, Italy was in war with Germany after the fall of Mussolini and a new Italian Government was formed declaring war to the Nazis (A big flip).
I was told by very reliable source (3rd Army, XX Corp) that it was the Polish fighters who cleaned the last defenders at Casino.
Many tried, but yes the Polish soldiers took it in the end.
A tragedy, the later abandonment, outright treason, that those soldier suffered when Poland was given away by Brits and Yanks to genocidal Stalin.
Sad that the general gets no recognition these days cause d day was the day after so we normally focus on the 6th not the 5th :l
General 'I am a glory hunting clown' Mark Clark. . . .the man who lost the war in Italy because I wanted the glory of capturing Rome.
The war wasn't "lost in Italy" any more than it was lost in Burma.
@@64MDW, The Americans were beat at Anzio and Monte Cassino. The British 8th army had to extend over from the Adriatic to punch through at Casino and take the Liri Valley ( Clark' original objective ). After the Germans were driven back, Clark demanded the Canadian I Corp get off the roads so he could be first into Rome and he would shoot them if they didn't. The Canadians promised to shoot back.
my granda was there..top upload nuclearvault.. many thanks harold bhoy...
The First Canadian Army broke the Melfa Line, sending Germans in retreat past Rome. They had the toughest fight and received disproportional heavy casualties compared to the rest of the Allies. 26 miles away, 2 hours out, the Canadians were ordered to stop so General Mark Clark's army could capture the retreating 10th Army and liberate Rome. He instead chose to simply liberate Rome for glory, letting the 10th escape and double Allied casualties. The Canadians rode through at 3AM without pomp or
Clark entered Rome WHILE THE BRITISH FENDED OFF GERMANS .Clark was told not to enter Rome . Clark sucked up glory in Rome as British soldiers clashed with Germans.
Mark Kelly ... no ... the Canadians ...not the British ....... Canadians did all the work
The British force ("Peter Beach")[edit]
This force attacked the coast 6 miles (9.7 km) north of Anzio.
1st British Infantry Division
2nd Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire)
2nd Battalion, North Staffordshire Regiment
6th Battalion, Gordon Highlanders
3rd Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington's Regiment
1st Battalion, King's Shropshire Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Sherwood Foresters
24th Guards Brigade
5th Battalion, Grenadier Guards
1st Battalion, Irish Guards
1st Battalion, Scots Guards
1st Reconnaissance Regiment, Reconnaissance Corps
2/7th Battalion, Middlesex Regiment
2nd, 19th & 67th Field Regiments, Royal Artillery
81st Anti-tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
90th Light Anti-aircraft Regiment, Royal Artillery
23rd, 238th & 248th Field Companies, Royal Engineers
6th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers
1st Bridging Platoon, Royal Engineers
46th Royal Tank Regiment
2nd Special Service Brigade (partial)
No. 9 Commando
No.43 (Royal Marine) Commando
No 1, 2 & 3 Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps
18th Infantry Brigade (February to August 1944)
1st Battalion, Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment)
+Mark Kelly Yes, the United States claimed victory when in fact it was the Canadians who liberated Rome etc. I think the people of the U.S. today still believe they deserve all of the glory for liberating Europe during WW2. Not so, but hey, this made for a real bang up RUclips show!!
Saysanne S Bullshit
The Canadians busted through the Adolph Hitler line and had a clear path to Rome through the Liri Valley 4 days before the Americans got there. The German Army had declared Rome an "open city" and unoccupied meaning the Canadians could have walked right in, but they were ordered to hold and put on reserve. Once the German defense line was penetrated, they began to quickly retreat. U.S. General Clark was supposed to cut off the retreat and trap the 10th German army but ignored his orders and charged towards an undefended Rome instead. Clark's decision to feed his ego and run for Rome is considered one of the biggest military fuckups in WW2 as it allowed most of the German 10th to escape! This is fact you can easily confirm with Google.
My Dad was in the U S Army that invaded Italy and on the Rome
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Mine was too. 88th infantry division.
the leader was abdisa aga
Thank you José Ferrer for narrating.
Thank all mighty God, for the peace and freedom we now enjoy.
Except for the 7 or so countries the USA is bombing in the Middle East.
is that jose ferrer?
Yes 😂
I once worked for District Attorney Thomas Lee Woolwine in LA. and let me tell you, that guy was on the take. Thats all I can tell you as I fear for my life.
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Italy should've been left to its own devices. The entire Italian campaign was a German general's wet dream. So many allied lives lost for very little gain.
yeah. the fight from the south to the north was tough. German moved in and similar to the Japanese on Okinawa, would establish a line fight, then fall back a few dozen miles and do the same thing over and over.
The glory-hound Mark Clark robbed the Canadian armored units of the honor of being the first Allied units to enter Rome and liberate the city. But the Germans had withdrawn from the city and it was entered without a fight by the U.S. 5th Army: Rome was not taken from the Wehrmacht, which had abandoned the city.
Thank you...gratzie mille..
@preemptivestrike20 But did they liberate it? I didn't think so.
Clark was one of the worse generals in American history, only his connections prevent him from being relieved.
yank1776 - A political general, grandstander and racist to his Black soldiers under his command also, undercutting them at every turn, even giving decorations they earned in battle to other units...
Incredible
The campaign that fought along the millenia roads built by Roman Empire. Is this counted amongs 'Sackings of Rome' tally?
pause it at exactly 17:37,wow that's hitler!
Not even close!
@@JABARDELLI close enough
He had many doubles. Just saying
I would say that liberated is the right word to be used. Considering that Allied freed us from Nazi Fascism and feed Italians liberating them from hunger I would sau that Liberation is the right word, unless you preferred the Nazi fascist regime. But this is not my case and that of millions of Italians that crowded the street of Italy in 1944-1945 to welcome tge liberators.
Liberate? I thought Italy was the Axis?
General Mark Clark Liberated Rome...let the Germans go up country to establish another line of defence....the Rome crowds...rightly so cheered..history was sated...luckily D Day overshadowed big EGOs
As I understood it he was supposed to swing east, connect with the British/Canadian forces and cut of the German lines of retreat. Instead he went for Rome and the glory and the Germans slipped away.
@@j3lny425 its funny everyone blames one another, but at the end of the day, the best armies of WW2 beat the evil nazis
Yeah Clark was a piece of work. Eisenhower and Marshall tried to reign him in several times to no avail.
Liberation or occupation?
Olha só o respeito daquele militar...tirou suas armas pra entrar na igreja....na casa do pai temos que ter muito respeito!
The Allied 5th army walked in from the South, but it was the Canadian 1st army that liberated it and was first in at 3 AM, then our orders where to move on north and let the 5th move in during the day, making our victory forgoten by many as one by the US. If a history book sais the US liberated Rome, though it out, it's wrong.
Canadians didn't liberate shit, stop lying to yourself.
This is history, because Orson Welles says so, and HE would never try to fool anyone, would he?
I remember Gina Lollobridgda I know I got the name wrong but I remember her from films in Italy near to those days. There was an Italian family living in my neighbourhood in Trinidad in the West Indies
The subject od the discussion was air bombing in wwii and my comment (that is correct) made reference to this conflict.
Great celebration, Rome is liberated from Nazism! But the US commander directly ignored his orders, and broke off from active combat to have this little jolly. With the result that the Nazis, who had been on the run, were able to re-group and form new defences. This parade was a disaster, and cost many Allied soldiers their lives, The continued combat meant ongoing destruction of Italy and civilian deaths as well. The US commander who ordered this parade was removed from his post, rightly so. He should have been court-martialed.
Yes I believe it was general Clarke?
The same Gen.Clarke who wrote the book "Calculated risk" ?
Italy signed a armistice agreement with the Allies, formed a new government and declared war on Germany who subsequently invaded them. So yes Liberation is the correct term as Italy was occupied by a belligerent.
But remember that after he was freed by the Germans, Mussolini also formed a new fascist government in northern Italy called the Italian Social Republic, which continued to the war on the axis side until the end. So it would be more correct to say it was half liberated and half conquered.
@@markthecenturion The Social Republic was a puppet state of Germany, the legitimate government was the Kingdom in the South.
Also, Italy declared war on Germany AFTER being invaded
Sans la division française d'Algérie Rome n'aurait pas été libérée
My father and uncle were in those battles with 8th Army. ( CDN 1st INF DIV ). Serious bad blood was developed between the Americans and Canadians after Patton without warning deserted the Canadian left flank in Sicily to go on a useless and costly " end-around ". It got worse. Clark sat and sulked at Anzio because they took his shipping away for the Normandy invasion. And the rest of the American troops were stuck at Monte Cassino and were exhausted. The Canadians were brought over from the Adriatic side as the British 8th extended west to Casino . The British, Canadians, Poles, and the Free French broke through the Gustav and Hitler line and the Canadian I Corp was on the way to Rome and relieved Anzio. At this point Clark demanded that the Canadians get off the roads and let the Americans be the first into Rome, and that they would shoot anyone who got in the way, the Canadians promised to shoot back. Cool heads prevailed and the Americans were " officially " the first to enter Rome. At the start of the campaign, it was felt prudent to keep Canadians between the British and Americans. After Patton's desertion and for the rest of the war, they kept British troops between the Americans and Canadians. Notice how NO American produced newsreel or documentary every mentions the Canadians.
Canadian 1st Division were nicknamed "Red Patch Devils" and German 1st Parachute (nicknamed Green Devils) considered at the time to be the best of any division on either side were always put head to head during the Italy Campaign and produced some of the most intense fights during WW2.
Americans are inherently show offs i mean look at their last president Trump. America is a great country but they turn into the worst AHoles when they dont get their way.
I'm confused I watch beachhead Anzio where is was stated that there was very little opposition when they landed here they say they were heavily opposed. WHICH WAS IT?
Little opposition when they landed. Clarke was overly ... “cautious” ... which allowed the Germans time to mount a strong opposition.
The Allies destroyed Monte Cassino but there were no germans because they wanted it to protect from the bombs.
The more things change the more they remain the same
Gregory Peck?
We all know that ezio auditore da firenze did this first during the Renaissance
@ CanadianStereotype ... Read the Unit History Book of the First Special Service Force. They were the ones who siezed the 7 bridges over the Tiber River. My father's commanding general, General Frederick was badly wounded while securing one of those bridges. On a hill outside of Rome my father's squad ambushed a rear guard unit from the Hermann Goering Panzer Division. 4 assualt guns were destroyed by bazookas and 50 krauts were killed or captured while 4 of my father's men were wounded.
My Grandfather was also a member of The First Special Service Force. I remember him talking about going into Rome and advancing to the Tyber.
The downfall of Rome.
Why didn;t they just go straight to Rome?
To all the armchair generals...could you have done better having to deal with the mountains, the mud, the rain, the politics and the challenges of logistics and dealing with a contrary Italian government? Step up and show us with 70 years of hindsight that you'd do any better. Otherwise, shut up and watch the sacrifices of better men than you could ever hope to be.
There was a French army of 125,000 men commanded by General Juin ... hardly a word ...
Sounds like they got Barney Greenwald to take a break from defending U.S. Navy sailors from mutiny charges to narrate this news reel. Good job Barney !
How can you call it the liberation of Rome?
No, you can't
@@EmanueleCorreani exactly. If rome through in with Mussolini And Hitler, what are you liberating it from?
@@seedsofwisdom4u Despite there were still German troops occupying the area, I do not understand the reason the Allies wanted to bomb Rome at least 16 times. They hit residential working class districts with no strategical interest (local residents were already expelling the Nazis on their own).
The area I came from (13 miles south of Rome) has been severely bombed by the allies. 70% of the buildings were completely destroyed (including the historical ones)
Lot of civilians died and again, there were no strategical targets within those cities. Presumably Americans were looking for Leopold, a railway gun which kept them busy in Anzio. But this doesn't justify the amount of destruction and human loss.
Local population was shot on the ground by the Nazis and bombed from the sky by the Allies. And now we all drink CocaCola and eat at McDonalds.
not * Liberation - it's *Occupation.....
A FEB do Brasil???
triumph, thanks to the American's horrible sense of glory-hounding. Don't let history be written by the victor, let it be written by everyone who was there.
Near STIA AREZZO TUSCANY Where I live , there was a small village called VALLUCCIOLE valley of fireflies in the spring of 1944 in these valleys were active partisan groups and in those days killed an officer and several soldiers ss You must know that beautiful place at the foot of the falterona mountain was swept away with inhuman ferocity where life lost all those old women and children men were all at the front or Abandoned to themselves by the Fascist regime, look at what the Germans did to Greece's Cephalonia Against Italian soldiers .Today in 2017 there is only the cemetery surrounded by fir trees There are so many babies some of them had few days and months of age In this years there is civil war in italy partisan vs fascist total caos from 43 to 45 Many Italians were not fascists You had to accept dictatorship, democracy did not exist anymore You had to be careful otherwise your family was over my grandfather was not fascist for example but You had to pretend to be fascist but in reality the Italians did not want this fucking war only the fascists wanted it check what the Fascists did in Italy with the gestapo and Ss List of massacres in Italy only 1944
29 September - 5 October 1944, Marzabotto massacre (Marzabotto, Emilia-Romagna; between 770 and 1,830 civilians killed)
12 August 1944, Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre (Sant'Anna di Stazzema, Tuscany; 560 people, including children)
29 June 1944, Civitella-Cornia-San Pancrazio massacre (Abruzzo; 203 people, including children)
Ardeatine massacre (Rome, Lazio; 335 prisoners executed)
Boves massacre (Cuneo, Piedmont; 189 civilians and partisans killed in two separate massacres)[25]
Padule Fucecchio massacre (Fucecchio, Tuscany; 176 civilians killed on 23 August 1944)[26]
Cavriglia-Castelnuovo dei Sabbioni massacre (Tuscany; 173 civilians killed on 4 July 1944)[26]
Vinca massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; between 160[27] and 178[28] civilians executed on 24 August 1944)
Fosse del Frigido massacre (Massa, Tuscany; 146-149 prisoners murdered on 10 September 1944)[28]
Pietransieri massacre (Roccaraso, Abruzzo; 128 civilians killed on 21 November 1943)[29]
Stia massacre (Stia, Tuscany; 122 civilians killed between 12 and 15 April 1944)[27]
San Terenzo Monti massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 110 civilians and 52 political prisoners killed on 21 August 1944)[27]
Valla massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 103 civilians killed on 19 August 1944)[28]
Serra di Ronchidoso massacre (Gaggio Montano, Emilia-Romagna; over 100 civilians killed on 28-29 September 1944)[26]
Three men executed by public hanging in a street of Rimini, 1944
Verghereto massacre (Verghereto, Emilia-Romagna; 96 civilians killed between 22 and 25 July 1944)[26]
Massacre of Monchio, Susano and Costrignano (Palagano, Emilia-Romagna; between 79[27] and 136 civilians killed on 18 March 1944)
Leonessa and Cumulata massacre (Leonessa, Lazio; 51 civilians killed between 2 and 7 April 1944)
Cumiana massacre (Cumiana, Piedmont; 51 civilians killed on 3 April 1944)
Tavolicci massacre (Verghereto, Emilia-Romagna; 64 civilians killed on 22 July 1944)
Forno massacre (Massa, Tuscany; 72 civilians killed on 13 June 1944)
Gubbio mssacre (Gubbio, Umbria; 40 civilians executed on 22 June 1944)[27]
Valdine massacre (Fivizzano, Tuscany; 52 hostages executed in August 1944)[27]
Casaglia massacre (Marzabotto, Emilia-Romagna; 42 civilians killed on 29 September 1944)[27]
Bergiola Foscalina (it) massacre in Carrara (Carrara, Tuscany; 72 civilians killed on 16 September 1944)[26]
Madonna dell'Albero massacre (Ravenna, Emilia-Romagna; 56 civilians killed on 27 November 1944)
"La Romagna" massacre (Molina di Quosa, San Giuliano Terme, Tuscany; 75 civilians killed on 11 August 1944)[26]
San Polo di Arezzo massacre (Arezzo, Tuscany; 65 civilians killed on 14 July 1944)[26]
Certosa di Farneta massacre (Lucca, Tuscany; 60 civilians killed between 2 and 10 September 1944)[26]
Guardistallo massacre (Guardistallo, Tuscany; 46 civilians killed on 29 June 1944)[26]
Massaciuccoli-Massarosa massacre (Massaciuccoli, Massarosa, Tuscany; 41 civilians killed between 2 and 5 September 1944)[26]
Fossoli-Carpi massacre (Carpi, Emilia-Romagna; 67 civilians killed on 12 July 1944)[26]
Turchino Pass massacre (Fontanafredda, Liguria; 59 civilians executed on 19 May 1944)[28]
Pedescala massacre (Valdastico, Veneto; 82 civilians killed between 30 April and 2 May 1945)[28]
Italy ,really suffered .Thankyou David. My Family is from Calabria area. Very Sad Time..
America was at its greatest when it fought Fascists.
Michael F
Yes, but now the U.S. people elected a person what twitted a Mussolini's quote, ad have some of fascist attitudes
@@darjuz96
AWESOME
Narrated by Jose Ferrer.
Read John Ellis "Casino" and you will learn that hadn't it been for General Juin and his four excellent french divisions, there would not have been an entry of Rome in June 1944. American and British forces where rather incompetent in mountain warfare. As for Casino it was a blunder from the beginning to the end.
The Romans were happy about the victory of their former enemies, after they had joined them and fought against their former allies like in WW I!
good call tom,i just rad your comment you spotted it too.
Italy was not occupied. One cannot liberate Italy from Italians. It is more like the Allies have conquered the enemy Italy and occupied Italy from now on.
Did you watch the film ?Those were Germans they were fighting. Germans in Italy...hmm...sounds like liberation to me . Beside, just to kick Italian fascists ass , would be good enough reason to be there.
The official Italian government dumped the Gernans and joined the Allies. So, yeah, it was a liberation.
So much for the soft belly of Churchill. It was a brutish struggle.
Churchill was just a figurehead, not a strategist: his top general, Brooke, said that W.S C. talked rubbish and was often uninformed.
TYLER1 LIVES!?
Any paisans?
Que pensaron
14.30 ..no se la iban a hacer fácil
como la serie Combate.😈
More or less how I see it too.
only one person caused too much disaster for the whole world, how someone can justify this
sounds like the great Jose Ferrer narrating.......
At 7:57 that guy sticking his head out of the tent is pissed and is "F" bombing the weather. Watch his mouth LOL
powerful ending
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big shout out to your auld man
Troops from England but they show Scottish soldiers?
INVADED,NOT LIBERATED
Great days.
Liberated Rome? LOL
Yes liberated. At this point the government ousted Mussolini, disbanded their party and surrendered to the allies. The germans then invaded Italy and disarmed their troops
@@thomasgibbons1935 Rome was still under the control of the Italian Social Republic
@@timmysupreme4472 yes, but the official title of Mussolini's Italy was the kingdom of Italy. The Italian government kicked him out, and surrendered to the allies. The Italian social Republic was a German puppet state as a result of their invasion and no more. So Rome was in the hands of the Germans
VIVa Romel a Raposa do Deserto.
the german pow@ 1735,,a fuehrer double?
In Heaven, the Germans are the soldiers and the Italians are the lovers. In Hell, the Italians are the soldiers and the Germans are the lovers.
Mien nam dans mon coeur mat=perdu...TÔI như dứt từng khuc ruot=intestin!Bye!
Wouaaa il on même batu jules cesar !
A well known crime boss back in the 40's convinced the Italian army to surrender to the Allies.
My grandfather was there in Saint John in Lateran Square, when the Americans Soldiers arrived. He was 14 years old!
HOROR!!! OKUPANT!!!
In ROME