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I already bought it, i feel its worth the money if you want more creature you can tame in the game, plus its something new to try out while waiting for the other maps to be released.
This has really always been the case, back when all dlcs were released on ase they were considered premium dinos but now its free you just have to wait they have creatures taking their place.
A microtransaction in its purest? I dont think you have seen a microtransaction before. A microtransaction are in games for people to pay money to speed up gameplay, you can complete the game without the paywall creatures at any pace without slowing down gameplay because all of the best creatures in asa are free.
@@Theworldisscrewed Microstransation: A relatively inexpensive payment for part of a product or for an upgraded service or experience: often at the core of an alternative sales and revenue model for businesses to maximize profit with a very large volume of piecemeal or à la carte sales, rather than a single lump sum transaction for each full product sold: The vehicle comes with heated seats, but you won’t be able to use them without enrolling in a recurring microtransaction with the manufacturer. This is a microtransaction. It is in the game by default, but to access it and to speed up the game you will need to purchase it for a small price. It is a PURE microtransaction, literally the same as "Purchase 600 gems for $5". It is an incredibly easy tame, granting you almost immediate access to the creature. It is a very powerful creature that grants you a very significant advantage. It is a small transaction to speed up gameplay, and to gain a competitive advantage. I love ARK, but I cannot not condemn this. Respectfully, you are coping.
@@Gamer_G33k A DLC is an entire inaccessible part of the game, a new map and new part of the story. Someone who does not own Scorched Earth cannot enter the map, and CAN use the creatures if they are transferred from Scorched Earth. Bob's Tall Tales is at its core similar to a microtransaction, but there has clearly been enough effort put in to consider it an entire DLC in my opinion, even though it is a little bit iffy, as it has content that players cannot access even though they are located on the same map. Pay to use, basically. The Pyromane is a clear cut microtransaction. On a full price rework of an existing game. It is a small transaction for a single feature, a single creature. It's taming process is even easy, so you basically only have to pay and you have near immediate access to it. It is also powerful, so one gains a very significant competitive advantage when using it. It's a retextured, lazy, buffed up version of a creature that was already considered Pay to Win by some. It is a microtransaction, and you are coping if you dont think so, unless you can provide a very good counterargument.
I'm pretty sure that they are lacking money to support development for ARK II, and they may actually be trying to bring it out within a certain time, but this really makes me question why they went along with ASA. Although, I guess it is kinda their last shot at getting through ARK II, as other ARK projects don't seem to be as successful. All they need is a willing player base, as well as some newcomers to this particular gaming community as well, and then also money for both projects.
Sure...they're the greedy ones. And I like how people are crying about it like they're charging a full game price on it. It's not even $10 dude. I bet a lot of you spend more than that on Friday nights to destroy your livers and see pink elephants lmao. And if not you definitely probably most people because that seems to be a very popular thing to waste money on for some reason 😂. Seriously calling them greedy is rich when they could've easily charged for the DLC maps again
@@zachjohnson9391people are mad because they promised it for free then made us rebuy the base game as well as ark 2 and then are making us pay extra for Dino’s on free maps
@@ChrisSmith-ew9fp If I went to Mcdonalds and they told me the meal was $35(base game price) but Im only allowed to eat it if I tip them $20(bob DLC) and THEN they told me the dips were $5 id kick them in the teeth
I don’t understand the backlash tho, I remember playing Ark se and when I didn’t have any dlc I spawned in dlc creatures and played as usual. Can’t you still do that now?
@@ashkorew5405 With these new creatures even if you spawn it in you can’t forcetame, you have to have the pack to even forcetame them. But as far as I know if someone who does have the pack tames it for your tribe you can still use it. WC haven’t figured out how to get around that yet luckily
@@TragikDino I don’t play PvP or official servers so what I meant was in single player I use the command “summon tamed” and I would get that tamed dlc creature.
@@ashkorew5405 Does the summon tamed command work with the pyromane if you don’t have the pack thing? I haven’t tried yet cause typing commands on console is pain
The oasisaur was in a pack of creatures that will be with aberration and extinction, but yeah these premium creatures are probably gonna be on the non story maps and seeing as there isn’t any pack or bundle being offered it seems like each creature will be a individual purchase. So let’s say all of them are $5.99 starting with Center and ending with Fjordur that means Center, Raganork, Valguero, Crystal Isles, Lost Island, and Fjordur rack up about 30 bucks total, and that’s ignoring the cents and sales tax, which probably means over the course of all the purchases it may get up to 35 and possibly even 40 dollars
@@TragikDino thats what they told us. probaly you get 1 additonal creature with the oasisaur bundle and 4 way more powerful creatures to buy seperately.
5 dollars for a single creature? Pyromane is basically a reskinned shadowmane. You can get 30+ unique creatures for free by downloading the prehistoric beasts mod
@@batty5265 wdym mate, this shadowmane reskin looks like it was taken from an app game or god of war 3 the model isn't even good + it has the same animations
@@mr.enigma3meepher757 True... But, if it at least had a nice model than I would be more willing to pay for it. You can hardly see anything through the fire, but the animal's skin is really not nice to look at. And the fire ALSO doesn't look great. On a Phoenix you can count every single feather through the fire and see their texture. It also has beautiful eyes. This burning lion looks ugly. It is like they put no effort in making it look great.
@@AristeaSturmschwinge And still enough clowns are willing to pay for that ugly mess... Honestly it looks like something that could have came from the Shiny mod and even then it would have looked better. Like "Burning Shadowmane"; which was something that could happen, just very rare. To make it blue, use a Burning Essence on your blue Shadowmane, boom done. ^^ You're then immune to lava/fire/heat aswell and it costs you nothing.
So the dinos we're getting for free, or even for Bob's TT, have outrageously slow and annoying tames that turn out to be underwhelming once finished. But you can pay 5 bucks for a ridiculously easy tame that happens to also be overpowered in every aspect. Thanks Wildcard... 😑
@@sammymilanovic9124 It's always about the price. You are paying for a new utility Dino. Not for a skin or for an armour saddle skin. The price is ok. Remember we live in a world where people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on games. Mobile or not. Get used to this practices. They are here for more than 10 years now
@@Falusiii2007 overpowered? Did you watch the video? Did you look into the creature at all? This thing will be useless outside of an anti micro raptor tool
@@Falusiii2007Shadowmane requires a dlc purchase in the original game, you can only access it in mods on ASA which makes the DLC redundant and the DLC will make the mod relevant
not even included in the bob’s tall tales pack, something that the community was already iffy over. Although i suppose that would break the whole thing about it being “purely cosmetic and not affecting pvp”, whereas this probably will, so good news! we’re officially going to be pay to win soon
No one said that any of the paid tames are "purely cosmetic and doesn't affect pvp" If there's 1 thing I can say about pvp during my time Pvpers will always fine a use for even the most useless tames so even the Oasisaur found some pvp uses even though it clearly a pve preferred tame
I really wish they would have added a theme to the center like they did for scorched earth!!! Like a pirate theme would have been sooo freakin awesome!!!! Oh well the pyromane is pretty cool 😃
Can't wait to have to have a subscription to be able to play the game at all. Shoot soon enough you'll need a subscription just too turn on the device that you play on.
I dont know how to feel. Its essentially a pay to win dino and not even unique since its a reskin of a shadowmane, i think people are just going to run past you light you on fire and wait for you to burn up without even being hit. I would like it a lot more if it was cheaper, and was actually unique.
@@moafishing5654 if you think $5 for one dino that is essentially a reskin is good you are tripping. It's not a lot of money, but it's not worth it for one shitty reskin. I have more than enough to buy it, it's just that fact you get so little and that a multi million dollar company has pay to win features added for people who pay for them instead of just adding a free dino
@@moafishing5654not like theres people who have already spent hundreds on ark already, and now are expected to pay more to have all the content. You've either not been playing ark long or are just plain ignorant to not know of how snail games has been openly overpricing and adding paywalls for additions that are normally free.
@@moafishing5654here’s a fun fact, just because me and others can afford it, doesn’t mean we want to pay money for something we don’t really think is worth it
@@thecrazyhobos Nothing is free. Stop living in this illusion. Even after paying for the game , you don't own it. It's theirs. People spent on ark because they liked the game. Just as I did. And I will probably spend more for content that I like and not spend on the one that I don't or find it unnecessary. As for my ark history, I have over 7k hours in ark, starting with 411 vanilla island and small tribes after. Playing SP now
in the creature submissions over the months I submitted a flaming bull and a tiny fox shoulder pet that transforms into a rideable pet with a whistle. seems like they got some good ideas from somewhere :P
Pyromane is way more expensive than oasisaur. You pay 30$ for content for 3 maps, so it's like 10$ per map. And for every map you get new creature, new skins and new items. I would much rather pay that for actual content for 3 maps, than 5$ for ONE skin for ONE creature
Atleast it has basically all new ability’s and attack mechanics, for 5$ it’s decently worth it to me, it’s got more to it than half of the premium mod’s that cost the same honestly
@@JaxSparrowMaybe Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy the creature, absolutely go ahead and buy it. Anyone who's telling you not to enjoy something is 100% an asshole. However, I'd rather pay for other kinds of content in this game
i dont hate that its a premium creature, i just hate that its a reskin. its so cool looking and such a good idea but even if it was just a new model with new sounds i feel people would be much more willing to pay for it. i love the idea of it turning into a shoulder pet though and maybe the flamethrower kitten is a counter to microraptors?
I love this guy. It's just amazing to have a shadowmane cousin and it just makes this world feel more alive and "real". I'm not a braindead pvp player so i'm just here for the cool creatures and the survival experience. In short, i'm here for the actual game. I'm not a fan of this being a paid creature however. If it was in some sort of pack, an expansion or mini dlc it would be fine, but paying for a single creature doesn't feel cool. Just remember, if you don't want it, don't buy it and stop yapping if it has nothing to do with and doesn't affect the way you play the game. They'll just realise people aren't buying this and won't do it anymore.
What's stopping modders from making these pay-to-win dinos? I don't see these "premium" dinos being paid for when you can easily download a quick mod for them anyway.
Some of those mechanics are really cool and could be AMAZING for a Pokémon or Digimon mod. Imagine you having a Charmander shoulder pet that breaths fire like that, and then, when it evolves into Charizard, you can ride it. Or even better, having an Agumon hugging your back like a backpack and breathing fire from it's mouth on your shoulder and you can make it evolve into Greymon from your shoulder to ride it. Also, it seems like the Pyromane will lose it's flames in the water. But seem more elemental creatures are always cool. Can't wait to have a new ice elemental creature.
Hello, can people who do not have the dino purchased use it? If I buy it and the rest of my tribe doesn't make the purchase, can the rest of my tribe use it? or to use it you must have made the purchase, I would appreciate answers
I kinda felt a little weird with premium mods, I thought it was cool for mod developers but ark devs themself making individual creatures as premium mods is such bs. And I didn’t even know center came out till this video but did they add a free map creature from the votes ?
Even thought its premium it’s still a good Dino, just shouldn’t have to pay for it so everyone can enjoy without the fear of not being able to afford it, either way because it is premium £5 isn’t as bad as it could of been they could have jacked the prices up way high just for this one creature
@@Falusiii2007 that still doesn't change the fact its always been pay to win, just because you get a better deal with full dlc packs doesn't mean its not pay to win.
@@Theworldisscrewed Some creatures are not p2w. Yes there are like the Reaper, astrodelphis. But the shadowmane etc are appear on free maps like fjordur. A lot people bought the dlc's for the creaturrs and for the map to go on with the story. But in this case you get 1 creatute that totally broken.
@@Falusiii2007 are you forgetting that all dlcs are free with ascended? I think its fine for them to charge 5 dollars for a creature, most content they are releasing for asa is free, whats the issue? Asa is literally less pay to win then ase and that says something.
I was like I’m saving money, I don’t need to spend $5 on a creature that isn’t really brand new. But then you turned it into a shoulder pet and now I’m skipping my energy drink purchase for the next 2 days so I don’t feel bad about getting it lmao
I wonder if having unclaimed tames around for it to fight would work with taming? One issue I have is creatures spawning are a bit sporadic especially in Ascended, they need to tone down Parasaur spawning and increase things like Iguanodons or add some bigger mid level herbivores like the Edmontosaurus.
I actually 100% support the idea. Because 1.) it’s cheap. 2.) it further supports the company that makes the game I enjoy. And 3.) as long as it’s cool enough creatures, Its worth the cheap price
How come no one on official can return to scorched earth after leaving? I left to the center in hopes of making a base but when i tried to return to make sure my base wouldn't despawn it wouldn't let me. Im not the only one who also is running into this problem. Do you know why?
Can I still play ark ascendend if the owner of the decides to put this dino on the modlist? Or do i have to buy the whole dino to even be able to use the server? Or is it the same thing like Oasisaur?
Syntac can you please tell me the name of that 1 mod from ase that u used to craft the ol mech 4 yrs ago.Its basically a potion if you drink it it put all you level in to crafting skill for a short amout of time
Ancestor or genetic cousin to the shadowmane? (I dunno) Shadowmane: shock, water, and stealth Pyromane: brute force war mount The Third would be some sort of poisoner(maybe lifesteal)
Wait is this included in bobs tails or are they 2 different things because i bought bob tails because it said i would get stuff like the oasisaur for every map but is this locked behind its own pay wall?
Im excited for the moment someone releases a pirating system for DLC’s like they did for sims 4 (anadius). It’s gonna happen, if someone did it for sims 4 they’d do it again for asa’s greed.
I’m not mad about the paid aspect, I’m mad about the creature. There are so many actual dinosaurs that still aren’t in the game, why are we adding Pokemon first?
I think that it’s fine for there to be premium creatures considering WC allowed themselves to be bullied into making all the DLC maps free. I think the Pyromane being a re-hashed, weaker shadowmane is one of the safest things they could’ve decided on. If they had the premium creature built from the ground up, they’d obviously have to charge more for it, so Ark fans would complain about it being expensive and pay-to-win. This way, it’s not too overpowered and the low price allows a lot of people to be able to get it while still allowing WC to get more money to work on ARK II. Too often people think of WC as being this giant of a company like EA but like you said, they’re probably struggling to pay everyone working on ASA and ARK II
Genuine question, my friend and i have a server with nitrado and we split paying for it with my account. So how does it work if i buy it, i know they show up normally on the center in single player, im just confused how the server works? Do they still spawn and your just buying a mod or something i dont know. Would appreactiate some guidance. Like do you have to buy it to have them spawn on the server?
This looks like a really fun creature. The only problem I have with it is that you can't see where you're going when you use the flame leap. Seeing as how I only have the game as a prize from that Extralife stream you did, I'm pretty sure I can afford to pay $5 to support the game.
Also a paid Dino that doesn’t even have a saddle. They couldn’t even put in that much effort I like the transition from shoulder pet to mount, it’s a pretty cool animation.
They must be really needing the money, especially if they are using strategies like premium on players who may or may not have been happy with ASA, as from the looks of it, is still in alpha, then they have future projects like ark II. I hope they eventually get the funds the way they want, so we can actually expect an experience similar to ASE. I do like the concept for the pyromane, but I feel like they could eventually remaster the design later on, but of course, it'd be safe to say this is after they get the funding needed for both ASA and ARK II
Anything I missed with the Pyromane? Are you going to buy the DLC?
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I already bought it, i feel its worth the money if you want more creature you can tame in the game, plus its something new to try out while waiting for the other maps to be released.
What if your on Xbox there's no left click or anything and it doesn't tell you what to hit??? Please help
I have pyromanes on my server and I didn't purchase them.... I saw one on one of the jungle islands
Tbh,we are all just re-skins of a family member 😂 so it's not bad
having premium creatures gives wildcard the incentive to lock all new tames behind a paywall im scared for the future
Every map will have premium creatures now.
I'm pretty sure that the Story maps will just have bob's tall tales but the non story maps will have a premium creature
As if Wildcard is the only company who does this 😅
This has really always been the case, back when all dlcs were released on ase they were considered premium dinos but now its free you just have to wait they have creatures taking their place.
@@NovaG0 i never said they were the only ones im just using them as the example since y'know im talking directly about them right now.
"Hey lets cover the shadowmane with fire, give it the ferox gimmick and just sell it 5 bucks!" *Wildcard probably*
most likey snail games
@@rowanburgess6449
Wildtard, most likely.
I'm here for it.
A microtransaction in its purest, free mobile game form.
A microtransaction in its purest? I dont think you have seen a microtransaction before. A microtransaction are in games for people to pay money to speed up gameplay, you can complete the game without the paywall creatures at any pace without slowing down gameplay because all of the best creatures in asa are free.
I mean it’s locking a creature in the main game not a mod behind a paywall where players with it could have an advantage
Is it a paywall? Yes. A microtransaction? No. Thats like saying any and all DLC is a Microtransaction.
@@Theworldisscrewed
Microstransation: A relatively inexpensive payment for part of a product or for an upgraded service or experience: often at the core of an alternative sales and revenue model for businesses to maximize profit with a very large volume of piecemeal or à la carte sales, rather than a single lump sum transaction for each full product sold: The vehicle comes with heated seats, but you won’t be able to use them without enrolling in a recurring microtransaction with the manufacturer.
This is a microtransaction. It is in the game by default, but to access it and to speed up the game you will need to purchase it for a small price. It is a PURE microtransaction, literally the same as "Purchase 600 gems for $5". It is an incredibly easy tame, granting you almost immediate access to the creature. It is a very powerful creature that grants you a very significant advantage.
It is a small transaction to speed up gameplay, and to gain a competitive advantage. I love ARK, but I cannot not condemn this. Respectfully, you are coping.
@@Gamer_G33k
A DLC is an entire inaccessible part of the game, a new map and new part of the story. Someone who does not own Scorched Earth cannot enter the map, and CAN use the creatures if they are transferred from Scorched Earth.
Bob's Tall Tales is at its core similar to a microtransaction, but there has clearly been enough effort put in to consider it an entire DLC in my opinion, even though it is a little bit iffy, as it has content that players cannot access even though they are located on the same map. Pay to use, basically.
The Pyromane is a clear cut microtransaction. On a full price rework of an existing game. It is a small transaction for a single feature, a single creature. It's taming process is even easy, so you basically only have to pay and you have near immediate access to it. It is also powerful, so one gains a very significant competitive advantage when using it. It's a retextured, lazy, buffed up version of a creature that was already considered Pay to Win by some.
It is a microtransaction, and you are coping if you dont think so, unless you can provide a very good counterargument.
Premium creatures feel weird to me
Yeah I also think that it's just not worth it really it's too much like a free creature but has taken a feature from the fearox
And they just pulled it out last second so we wouldn't have time to complain
in Scorched earth you can use console commands to force tame the oasisaur while not having purchased the 'Bobs tala tale' premium cash grab.
This guy probably settles it every single new creature from no on will be behind a paywall.
Blame money grubbing Snail Games...😞
I like how they just pulled out a premium creature last second so we didn't have time to complain their greed tactics are getting better
I'm pretty sure that they are lacking money to support development for ARK II, and they may actually be trying to bring it out within a certain time, but this really makes me question why they went along with ASA. Although, I guess it is kinda their last shot at getting through ARK II, as other ARK projects don't seem to be as successful. All they need is a willing player base, as well as some newcomers to this particular gaming community as well, and then also money for both projects.
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Sure...they're the greedy ones. And I like how people are crying about it like they're charging a full game price on it. It's not even $10 dude. I bet a lot of you spend more than that on Friday nights to destroy your livers and see pink elephants lmao. And if not you definitely probably most people because that seems to be a very popular thing to waste money on for some reason 😂. Seriously calling them greedy is rich when they could've easily charged for the DLC maps again
@@zachjohnson9391people are mad because they promised it for free then made us rebuy the base game as well as ark 2 and then are making us pay extra for Dino’s on free maps
@@zachjohnson9391ive been saying this lmao PREACH!
The hardest part about taming the pyromane is convincing myself to open my wallet to buy this
It's 5$... I'm sure you've spent plenty of 5$ burgers from Macdonalds poisoning you.... why not 5$ for entertainment????
@@ChrisSmith-ew9fp you must be fun at parties
@@ChrisSmith-ew9fp If I went to Mcdonalds and they told me the meal was $35(base game price) but Im only allowed to eat it if I tip them $20(bob DLC) and THEN they told me the dips were $5 id kick them in the teeth
@scuzzyuk412 that made zero sense. You can play the game without BTT and the 5$ tame. Moron lol. Tell me you're just broke please.
@@scuzzyuk412well lucky for you it’s not a meal it’s a game
Piracy has never been more justified.
I don’t understand the backlash tho, I remember playing Ark se and when I didn’t have any dlc I spawned in dlc creatures and played as usual. Can’t you still do that now?
@@ashkorew5405far as I'm aware it's added via a mod, so you can't.. Also a lot of people don't like to cheat at all
@@ashkorew5405 With these new creatures even if you spawn it in you can’t forcetame, you have to have the pack to even forcetame them. But as far as I know if someone who does have the pack tames it for your tribe you can still use it. WC haven’t figured out how to get around that yet luckily
@@TragikDino I don’t play PvP or official servers so what I meant was in single player I use the command “summon tamed” and I would get that tamed dlc creature.
@@ashkorew5405 Does the summon tamed command work with the pyromane if you don’t have the pack thing? I haven’t tried yet cause typing commands on console is pain
I had a very strong feeling the oasisaur wasnt gonna be the only paid creature so I guess every map will have its own premium dino
I'll say the Unofficial maps will have a premium creature mod
Well, the DLC name is "Fantastic Tames"
I hope it well include more dinos later
The oasisaur was in a pack of creatures that will be with aberration and extinction, but yeah these premium creatures are probably gonna be on the non story maps and seeing as there isn’t any pack or bundle being offered it seems like each creature will be a individual purchase. So let’s say all of them are $5.99 starting with Center and ending with Fjordur that means Center, Raganork, Valguero, Crystal Isles, Lost Island, and Fjordur rack up about 30 bucks total, and that’s ignoring the cents and sales tax, which probably means over the course of all the purchases it may get up to 35 and possibly even 40 dollars
@@TragikDino thats what they told us. probaly you get 1 additonal creature with the oasisaur bundle and 4 way more powerful creatures to buy seperately.
5 dollars for a single creature? Pyromane is basically a reskinned shadowmane.
You can get 30+ unique creatures for free by downloading the prehistoric beasts mod
For the love of god do not give money to that corrupt mod author!
Difference is crysta is much more scummy than even wildcard which is incredibly impressive also crystas dinos look horrible
I don't recall shadowmanes having the ability to turn into a chibi form.
@@batty5265 wdym mate, this shadowmane reskin looks like it was taken from an app game or god of war 3
the model isn't even good + it has the same animations
@@Shaaarkey models fine imo it’s different enough to be compared to wildcards older dinos but crystas dinos are still horrendous and that’s a fact
It should provide insulation for hot areas as well considering you’re literally sitting on flames and not getting hot.
It's supposed to. As a shoulder pet it makes you fire immune. Or at least the dossier says that. Haven't seen anyone test that yet.
It does
You the player are immune to the heat
It just wasn't said
So it is a Shadowmane/Phoenix/Ferox Hybrid that you have to pay for
If it’s mixed with three creatures, it’s basically different enough to be its own thing. Still sucks you still have to pay for it
@@mr.enigma3meepher757 True... But, if it at least had a nice model than I would be more willing to pay for it. You can hardly see anything through the fire, but the animal's skin is really not nice to look at. And the fire ALSO doesn't look great.
On a Phoenix you can count every single feather through the fire and see their texture. It also has beautiful eyes. This burning lion looks ugly. It is like they put no effort in making it look great.
@@AristeaSturmschwinge And still enough clowns are willing to pay for that ugly mess...
Honestly it looks like something that could have came from the Shiny mod and even then it would have looked better.
Like "Burning Shadowmane"; which was something that could happen, just very rare. To make it blue, use a Burning Essence on your blue Shadowmane, boom done. ^^
You're then immune to lava/fire/heat aswell and it costs you nothing.
@@AristeaSturmschwinge The model isn't even unique. It's like the skeleton model of a shadowmane. It looks like a badly made shadowmane variant mod.
@@AristeaSturmschwinge yeah I get that. The abilities are interesting enough but it needs more uniqueness in the visual department
Getting magmasaur eggs in the future is gonna be a walk in the park
Any cave actually gonna be like that
It would be cool if their heating ability can add up to let them breed too
Unless they lock the magma behind a paywall too -.-
Only as long as you're swiping your credit card unfortunately.
@@bujtormthe magmas were locked behind a 60 dollar paywall back in ASE until the Lost Island came out lmao
Microraptors are finally gonna be catching those fire breaths that’s for sure.
I couldn't get past the first step
So the dinos we're getting for free, or even for Bob's TT, have outrageously slow and annoying tames that turn out to be underwhelming once finished.
But you can pay 5 bucks for a ridiculously easy tame that happens to also be overpowered in every aspect.
Thanks Wildcard... 😑
It's 5 euros. Stop crying. If you don't have 5 euros in your bank account then you should prioritise some things
@@moafishing5654 remember my words it's five for now.
@@moafishing5654its not about the price , dont you realize that?
@@sammymilanovic9124 It's always about the price. You are paying for a new utility Dino. Not for a skin or for an armour saddle skin. The price is ok. Remember we live in a world where people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on games. Mobile or not. Get used to this practices. They are here for more than 10 years now
@@moafishing5654Compared to Bob’s Tall Tales it’s hilariously overpriced. Stop coping and seething for the giant game company.
9:53 I love the detail of the claw’s progressively preparing for landing😍
yeah i like this part too
Not only is it a premium creature, it’s a literal shadowmane clone. I hate the direction Ark is going
So basically a paid shadow mane with the exact same taming process as a carch but it’s much easier…..
Did you watch the video? The only similarity is the looks, it seems a lot weaker.
@@thecyanadon No, the problem is the shadowmane is free and its a very hard tame, the pyromane is easy tame and overpowered thats behind a paywall
@@Falusiii2007 overpowered? Did you watch the video? Did you look into the creature at all? This thing will be useless outside of an anti micro raptor tool
@@Falusiii2007Shadowmane requires a dlc purchase in the original game, you can only access it in mods on ASA which makes the DLC redundant and the DLC will make the mod relevant
@@TrojanGamer10 You can find Shadowmanes in the free map Fjordur
not even included in the bob’s tall tales pack, something that the community was already iffy over. Although i suppose that would break the whole thing about it being “purely cosmetic and not affecting pvp”, whereas this probably will, so good news! we’re officially going to be pay to win soon
No one said that any of the paid tames are "purely cosmetic and doesn't affect pvp"
If there's 1 thing I can say about pvp during my time
Pvpers will always fine a use for even the most useless tames so even the Oasisaur found some pvp uses even though it clearly a pve preferred tame
Immune to fire. Does that include the dragons fire? New dragon fighter lol
That would save me a ton of Veggie Cakes
Way too low HP and dmg so it doesn’t matter
If it is immune it would kinda cheapen the dragon as a boss imo
I really wish they would have added a theme to the center like they did for scorched earth!!! Like a pirate theme would have been sooo freakin awesome!!!! Oh well the pyromane is pretty cool 😃
Can't wait to have to have a subscription to be able to play the game at all. Shoot soon enough you'll need a subscription just too turn on the device that you play on.
When that happens I will stop playing the games
I dont know how to feel. Its essentially a pay to win dino and not even unique since its a reskin of a shadowmane, i think people are just going to run past you light you on fire and wait for you to burn up without even being hit. I would like it a lot more if it was cheaper, and was actually unique.
Cheaper? Lmao. Get a proper job
@@moafishing5654 if you think $5 for one dino that is essentially a reskin is good you are tripping. It's not a lot of money, but it's not worth it for one shitty reskin. I have more than enough to buy it, it's just that fact you get so little and that a multi million dollar company has pay to win features added for people who pay for them instead of just adding a free dino
@@moafishing5654not like theres people who have already spent hundreds on ark already, and now are expected to pay more to have all the content. You've either not been playing ark long or are just plain ignorant to not know of how snail games has been openly overpricing and adding paywalls for additions that are normally free.
@@moafishing5654here’s a fun fact, just because me and others can afford it, doesn’t mean we want to pay money for something we don’t really think is worth it
@@thecrazyhobos Nothing is free. Stop living in this illusion. Even after paying for the game , you don't own it. It's theirs. People spent on ark because they liked the game. Just as I did. And I will probably spend more for content that I like and not spend on the one that I don't or find it unnecessary. As for my ark history, I have over 7k hours in ark, starting with 411 vanilla island and small tribes after. Playing SP now
in the creature submissions over the months I submitted a flaming bull and a tiny fox shoulder pet that transforms into a rideable pet with a whistle. seems like they got some good ideas from somewhere :P
Yeah, I had a similar idea. I posted a while back; maybe that’s where you got your idea from your welcome.
At least its not outrageously expensive like the oasisur but then also its a reskinned shadowmane its nothing unquie and kinda lazy
Pyromane is way more expensive than oasisaur. You pay 30$ for content for 3 maps, so it's like 10$ per map. And for every map you get new creature, new skins and new items. I would much rather pay that for actual content for 3 maps, than 5$ for ONE skin for ONE creature
Atleast it has basically all new ability’s and attack mechanics, for 5$ it’s decently worth it to me, it’s got more to it than half of the premium mod’s that cost the same honestly
Whales gonna whale@@JaxSparrowMaybe
@@JaxSparrowMaybe Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy the creature, absolutely go ahead and buy it. Anyone who's telling you not to enjoy something is 100% an asshole. However, I'd rather pay for other kinds of content in this game
@@JaxSparrowMaybeThe Anomalocaris and Livyatan are higher quality than whatever tf this thing is
Pyromanes are spawning on Scorched too, I found them in the Wyvern Trench. You can carry them with a wyvern.
And tame them ?
What map is the one in this video?
@@josiahperry3448 Yes but everytime I try to tame them the timer runout before I can kill anything. They need to increase the ride timer.
i dont hate that its a premium creature, i just hate that its a reskin. its so cool looking and such a good idea but even if it was just a new model with new sounds i feel people would be much more willing to pay for it.
i love the idea of it turning into a shoulder pet though and maybe the flamethrower kitten is a counter to microraptors?
I love this guy. It's just amazing to have a shadowmane cousin and it just makes this world feel more alive and "real". I'm not a braindead pvp player so i'm just here for the cool creatures and the survival experience. In short, i'm here for the actual game.
I'm not a fan of this being a paid creature however. If it was in some sort of pack, an expansion or mini dlc it would be fine, but paying for a single creature doesn't feel cool. Just remember, if you don't want it, don't buy it and stop yapping if it has nothing to do with and doesn't affect the way you play the game. They'll just realise people aren't buying this and won't do it anymore.
They made a regional form of the shadow mane. I like the shoulder pet feature tho. Makes it so you don’t need a cryopod
What's stopping modders from making these pay-to-win dinos? I don't see these "premium" dinos being paid for when you can easily download a quick mod for them anyway.
Some of those mechanics are really cool and could be AMAZING for a Pokémon or Digimon mod.
Imagine you having a Charmander shoulder pet that breaths fire like that, and then, when it evolves into Charizard, you can ride it. Or even better, having an Agumon hugging your back like a backpack and breathing fire from it's mouth on your shoulder and you can make it evolve into Greymon from your shoulder to ride it.
Also, it seems like the Pyromane will lose it's flames in the water. But seem more elemental creatures are always cool. Can't wait to have a new ice elemental creature.
Can you have a female on your shoulder while riding a male and get mate boost damage?
ooOo interesting, might have to check that out later
8:30 you couldn’t be more wrong. It actually screams “ we have money but we want even more”
4:22, " i can actually make him shoot flamethrowers" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
SYNTAC BOUTA HAVE A BLAST WITH THIS
Man ascended is just so phoned in
Insert pyrocynical inflation joke here:
The pigeons are always watching
It’s cool first we had shadow manes now pyro mane what mane could be next if any?
Hello, can people who do not have the dino purchased use it? If I buy it and the rest of my tribe doesn't make the purchase, can the rest of my tribe use it? or to use it you must have made the purchase, I would appreciate answers
Paid premium creature? Yeah they can f*** off with that.
I kinda felt a little weird with premium mods, I thought it was cool for mod developers but ark devs themself making individual creatures as premium mods is such bs. And I didn’t even know center came out till this video but did they add a free map creature from the votes ?
I like the fact that it can go from a shoulder pet to an actual mount. That's what sold me on it 💯.
i remember when this game was about dinosaurs lmao
This was the nail in the camels back for me. Being able to walk up in game and get a buy prompt is shady
"The first step to taming a Pyromane is to locate your wallet and pull out 5 currency"
*One does not have the resources to tame this creature*
Fuck
4:56 how did he get up the rest of the controls on the dino?
Even thought its premium it’s still a good Dino, just shouldn’t have to pay for it so everyone can enjoy without the fear of not being able to afford it, either way because it is premium £5 isn’t as bad as it could of been they could have jacked the prices up way high just for this one creature
Pay to win dinos before gta 6
Thats how its always been ever since scorched released on ase.
@@Theworldisscrewed But you get a map, creatures, a new boss and everything else. You pay for ONE creature thats overpowered asf and easy to tame.
@@Falusiii2007 that still doesn't change the fact its always been pay to win, just because you get a better deal with full dlc packs doesn't mean its not pay to win.
@@Theworldisscrewed Some creatures are not p2w. Yes there are like the Reaper, astrodelphis. But the shadowmane etc are appear on free maps like fjordur. A lot people bought the dlc's for the creaturrs and for the map to go on with the story. But in this case you get 1 creatute that totally broken.
@@Falusiii2007 are you forgetting that all dlcs are free with ascended? I think its fine for them to charge 5 dollars for a creature, most content they are releasing for asa is free, whats the issue? Asa is literally less pay to win then ase and that says something.
Syntac: "Now I can set fire to microraptors trying to dismount me"
If you want to tame them in a singleplayer world but you didnt huy the pack than just forcetame it i mean it worked on the flying island
Why do they starve so quick and how do I stop it
I was like I’m saving money, I don’t need to spend $5 on a creature that isn’t really brand new. But then you turned it into a shoulder pet and now I’m skipping my energy drink purchase for the next 2 days so I don’t feel bad about getting it lmao
Ive tried to tame this creature but the timer always runs out before I can kill anything. It's too hard to tame these things normally.
I bought this and I’ve been seeing them on my scorched earth map as well
I notice with these massive new creatures they are a lot easier to tame then they should
I wonder if having unclaimed tames around for it to fight would work with taming? One issue I have is creatures spawning are a bit sporadic especially in Ascended, they need to tone down Parasaur spawning and increase things like Iguanodons or add some bigger mid level herbivores like the Edmontosaurus.
I actually 100% support the idea. Because 1.) it’s cheap. 2.) it further supports the company that makes the game I enjoy. And 3.) as long as it’s cool enough creatures, Its worth the cheap price
Can you show how to do it on SE? Damn thing spawn in the wyvern pit, you can't get them out
How come no one on official can return to scorched earth after leaving? I left to the center in hopes of making a base but when i tried to return to make sure my base wouldn't despawn it wouldn't let me. Im not the only one who also is running into this problem. Do you know why?
Have they changed the saddle armor becusse I’m on getting 10 armour when i have mine
Are they breedable?
Can you paint the pyromane? Like dye/change the color?
Those new pyromanes will make getting magmasaur eggs a breeze when genesis releases
Can I still play ark ascendend if the owner of the decides to put this dino on the modlist? Or do i have to buy the whole dino to even be able to use the server? Or is it the same thing like Oasisaur?
What buttons do you press to tame them at 100% on playstation
so scorched is done then?
It’s like the ultimate cave creature with that shoulder pet ability
def have an issue with the pay wall also scared for the future of ARK but the way he says "first thing to do is reach into your wallet" gets me
What a shame Wildcard.. it started as one of those games that you could never imagine this happening to, but now it was probably pretty expected.
Do you need to own the dlc to use this creature? Or can a server owner have it and it available for everyone on said server?
How does this work on pvp servers? You just can’t tame them or you can’t even see them? Or you’re paying the money only for single player?
Syntac can you please tell me the name of that 1 mod from ase that u used to craft the ol mech 4 yrs ago.Its basically a potion if you drink it it put all you level in to crafting skill for a short amout of time
It’s the crafting skill potion mod haha
@@RyanJohnson-q8b thank you very much
will you make a center series?
The "Ubisoft" is strong with Wildcard.
Nah ubisoft is just absurd with cosmetics and pushing them. We should just hope that all of the premium creatures suck and pvp doesn't become ptw
It's far more broken than the shadowmane in pvp. this thing is crazy op.
Do they spawn on the island or just the center.
Im alittle curious if these futs can spawn with babies, if so I might tame em that way
Do they only spawn after paying 5€? Im pretty sure I saw one yesterday and i didnt buy anything besides the main game
How do I kibble tame it, i love taming these things but notice it can be kibble tamed just didn’t know how to
Does the mammoth's water spray work to extinguish its flame?
Ancestor or genetic cousin to the shadowmane? (I dunno)
Shadowmane: shock, water, and stealth
Pyromane: brute force war mount
The Third would be some sort of poisoner(maybe lifesteal)
I am more worried about the fact that if I buy a creature and then Wildcard thinks it is too OP and then nurfs it.
Syntac oiled up
This and the Shasta would definitely have fit better on Genesis 1 by a lore and gameplay standpoint.
Wait is this included in bobs tails or are they 2 different things because i bought bob tails because it said i would get stuff like the oasisaur for every map but is this locked behind its own pay wall?
Only story maps.
if you have the season pass, do you still have to pay?
remember originally we were gonna have to rebuy all the dlcs. i see spending 5to20 bucks an dlc on tames as decent compromise
So question though. Will these be on official? And if so, if you don't own the dlc are you just locked out of taming it?
On ps5 do you hold r1 to manual absorb?
Im excited for the moment someone releases a pirating system for DLC’s like they did for sims 4 (anadius).
It’s gonna happen, if someone did it for sims 4 they’d do it again for asa’s greed.
I’m not mad about the paid aspect, I’m mad about the creature. There are so many actual dinosaurs that still aren’t in the game, why are we adding Pokemon first?
I personally like the pyromane as a creature. While i disagree with the paid unlock, the creature itself its pretty awesome
I think that it’s fine for there to be premium creatures considering WC allowed themselves to be bullied into making all the DLC maps free. I think the Pyromane being a re-hashed, weaker shadowmane is one of the safest things they could’ve decided on. If they had the premium creature built from the ground up, they’d obviously have to charge more for it, so Ark fans would complain about it being expensive and pay-to-win. This way, it’s not too overpowered and the low price allows a lot of people to be able to get it while still allowing WC to get more money to work on ARK II. Too often people think of WC as being this giant of a company like EA but like you said, they’re probably struggling to pay everyone working on ASA and ARK II
Genuine question, my friend and i have a server with nitrado and we split paying for it with my account. So how does it work if i buy it, i know they show up normally on the center in single player, im just confused how the server works? Do they still spawn and your just buying a mod or something i dont know. Would appreactiate some guidance.
Like do you have to buy it to have them spawn on the server?
This looks like a really fun creature. The only problem I have with it is that you can't see where you're going when you use the flame leap.
Seeing as how I only have the game as a prize from that Extralife stream you did, I'm pretty sure I can afford to pay $5 to support the game.
Also a paid Dino that doesn’t even have a saddle. They couldn’t even put in that much effort
I like the transition from shoulder pet to mount, it’s a pretty cool animation.
They must be really needing the money, especially if they are using strategies like premium on players who may or may not have been happy with ASA, as from the looks of it, is still in alpha, then they have future projects like ark II. I hope they eventually get the funds the way they want, so we can actually expect an experience similar to ASE.
I do like the concept for the pyromane, but I feel like they could eventually remaster the design later on, but of course, it'd be safe to say this is after they get the funding needed for both ASA and ARK II
Maybe Wildcard's next move will be selling us aimbots and wallhacks.
can you use weapons while riding it?