I have a 2017 1500 crew cab 5.7 sport w/ air ride. I do a lot of highway driving and my combined is about 19. I do use the mpg booster Diablo tune. Stock otherwise other than 10 ply tires.
Would be very interested in your findings on Aero mode breakeven numbers. I’m currently in a 2018 Audi A4 but looking at a Laramie build. As I mock it up, I’m not adding the air suspension at $1800. Curious if the efficiency numbers would justify the expense at some point.
I have the same truck, and after almost a yr and a half, I get around 13 mpg and I STILL have less than 6k miles on it. Its crazy how much you drive man!
I had a 2021 Ram I purchased in August of 2021. It was averaging 20 mpg on its last few tanks. I put 35k miles on it in that time. Sadly it was totaled when a driver ran a red light and hit my drivers side door flipping me over. I walked away with a small scratch on my knee. I will definitely be purchasing another.
The best I've seen with my 2019(according to the computer) was 25.4 average for a 2k mile trip from Denver to the Grand Canyon and Phoenix and back. Both 85 and 87 octane. I typically see 18ish daily driving and 10ish while towing.
Interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 25 mpg downhill (from Denver to the Grand Canyon). But if your total trip average was 25 mpg that would be really impressive. All stock?
'17 ecodiesel with ECM tune, 3.55 rear end, Big Horn 4wd crew cab. Overall 27-29 at 75 mph, 28-30 @ 70, as high as 32-33 at 55-65. Towing 6000# travel trailer ~12-14.
Yup. Those numbers are accurate. A very strong case. I don’t tow. And I hope on the highway 2-3 times a week. Mainly back roads some city and I’m about 27.9 average.
Hey Justin, great series! Idea to back out your idle fuel consumption. Head to the gas station & fill up. Let the truck idle at the pump for 15 or 30 minutes, and then fill it back up. This will allow you to calculate the fuel consumption per idle minute (or quarter hour, etc). Using the idle time built into the truck you will be able to determine how much fuel has been consumed while idling. I imagine that you will get more accurate data if you let the truck idle longer at the pump before refilling. Thanks again for the great series!
2018 1500 Laramie 5.7, 3.92 rear, 4x4, 87 Octane (lowest available here on Long Island). I commute from about dead center Long Island into nyc 5 days a week for work so not much traffic going to work but a parking lot the whole way home. I average between 18 and 21 usually. Truck is stock except a 24” magnaflow ultra flow (straight through) model is 12388
I get around 12.5 mpg since new running nothing but 91 octane premium fuel as I both drive conservatively around town 85% of the time but often nail it going onto the freeway or to pass another vehicle on the highway. I reset my milage & took it even easier & picked up a 13.5 average, about the same as my 2008 Hemi Ram.
Great video. This is the type of stuff I really wanted to know a few months back when debating over buying a Limited or not. I ended up buying one, but it's still pretty handy information to have. I think I'm averaging about 15 - 16 mpg just from my commute. As to the idle thing, I would imagine the truck uses a lot of gas on idle, just going by how much gas my truck consumes on really heavy traffic. Which is not even an issue when you have the adaptive cruise control.
Another great video. Obviously we use our trucks differently but I have a 2020 Bighorn with the 5.7 and 3:92 gear ratio and I'm averaging 17-18 mpg. In the winter during warm ups it's less. I am surprised that your not getting better than that with the 3:21. But again, we use our trucks differently. Thanks for another great vid.
Using your combined 13.8mpg average means you'll burn 7,246 gallons of fuel per 100k miles. If you didn't use aero mode or have air suspension you said it'd be 0.5mpg less. So at 13.3mpg over 100k miles is 7,519 gallons. Difference of 273 gallons of fuel saved every 100k with air suspension! It's about a 3.6% fuel savings. You'll save about 1 gallon of fuel every 26 gallon fill-up. (It takes 27 gallons w/o aero to go the same distance as 26 gallons with aero)
Thanks for running those numbers. So aero mode alone wouldn’t offset the cost of jumping up to a limited, but it could take a decent chunk out of the price.
I have a 2019 Quad Cab Longhorn 4x4 with the 3.6 Pentastar. 22 mpg on flat road at steady 60mph. 19.5 at my normal 77 mph on the interstate. I guess I get lesser mileage because my 6 cylinder has 2 more cylinders than the hemi at highway speed. Long term average with in-town mix is 17.5 including towing. I think its pretty good for a 2 ton truck.
Why do you elect to drive at 77 mph? Inefficiency is the consequence of High speeds and negligible time saved makes it a waste. Try 64 mph for around 20-25% less fuel on cruise control. Two to 3 more mpg means 300 more miles per 100 gallons. Try it. Thanks
@@Rhaman68 The speed limit is 70. 77 is the max "safe speed" you can set the cruise control on and not worry about a ticket. 64 in a 70 and I would get run over.
There is a thread out long ago about the 4th gen hemi idle fuel consumption. I used to get 23 ish with 3:21s the factory SRAS @ 63-73 in the upper midwest. Now im diablo tuned with duractracs so care not to look at things like that.
You may not get your 22 miles per gallon but it is the BEST TRUCK OF ALL YEARS! WE can go into the future 30 years from now and your truck will still be DOMINATING! 🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏
Mr. Wheeler, good to see you as always. My one question for you, what is your gear ratio ? That alone plays a factor. My 2020 Longhorn loaded except for air suspension, I’ve calculated as low as 12.6 to as high as 21.8. The low end includes idle time during winter and letting the truck warm up before getting in it for work in the morning which is an 11 mile ride to work one way. But the high end is highway driving to either the OBX from Pittsburgh or the the Finger lakes in New York. 3.21 or 3.92 gear ratio can make a significant difference. Even though you have a Limited, I’m not sure what gear ratio they have. Great video, especially now with where fuel prices are. Take care my friend, see you in the next video.
@@MrJustinWheeler The Longhorn runs 3.92s. It’s also the off road package, which supposedly gives the truck an extra 1” in lift, with all the skid plates and a 6’-4” bed. I’ve installed the RamAir intake and thinking about installing the Mopar exhaust the GT package has. Still debating that one. I love the sound of the GT exhaust but I’m 52 now and loud exhausts seem to be a younger mans thing. We’ll see.
That’s also my issue. I never am able to get the mileage that is advertised or the vehicle is capable of because I am always waiting on something or someone. It is not odd for me to sit in my truck at carpool, waiting on one of my children, waiting to meet up with them or my wife, waiting for a business to open, meeting to be over, etc. Those individual wait times do exceed 30 minutes on a regular basis.
22 1500 limited 4x4 ,loaded eTorque, 3.92 gears, 33gal tank 6’4” bed, stock tires on the stock 20” wheels 12k miles. Got between 21-22mpg on a long road trip cruise set to 68-70 and about 19-20mpg with cruise set to 74-76, and I get between 18.5-19.5 to and from work (17 miles 1 way)
I have a 2022 Laramie and get close to 18 combined! I have 20 inch wheels he has 22’s and all terrain tires. That makes a big difference. In the summer I see my truck easily getting 19 combined.
I live in mexico in a major city, i have a 2020 classic sport with the 5.7 hemi, upgrade tires to all terrain 34s and most of my driving is in cyti traffic, i get 20 liters pero 100 kms or around 12 mpgs no towing at all most of the time i travel alone
Great video. I'm sure you brought it up and may have missed it but how much stuff you have lying around in your truck bed such as toolboxes and tools along with possible other equipment such as spare fuel jugs and or bottles of refill liquids such as oil, antifreeze etc also weighs down the truck and decreases fuel efficiency.
Yeah that’s a good point. And it’s one that I actually intended to cover and forgot. I keep my truck pretty loaded down. The RamBoxes are packed and the bed is always 1/4 full of tools. I know that adds a decent decrease to my mpg average. Thanks for watching!
Can you please do a video on air suspension. You've put alot of miles on it and it would be interesting to see how the air suspension holding up, how much weight you put in it, etc.. I have a 21 limited, kind of want to know what to expect from the suspension. Thanks
@@MrJustinWheeler I guess I'm more concerned about payload. What's your payload and if you went over the stated payload, by how much. My sticker shows payload of 1040lb, so I'm wondering if it can actually hold more than the stated number.
Well I have been in the market and really want a Ram, but after I bought a new one in 1999 that had the 360 magnum its kept me from doing so cause that truck got about 9 mpg it was terrible, your video has have me 2nd thoughts ty sir
My 2019 ram crew 5.7 hemi with 3.21 rear, 6'4" bed and regular hemi not the one that shuts off at idle, i average 12-14 mpg city and 15-18 hwy however my best efforts to play with throttle for mileage i got a 21 mpg highway trip once. The mileage sucks so will be looking into a fuel saver chip. I have about 20k miles on mine. I had it since new
I never tried 93. I didn’t notice a large enough difference between 85 and 91 to give 93 a shot. Maybe I’ll make a couple runs with it and add that to the data set. Thanks for watching!
I gotta 2020 Ram 1500 limited with the 5.7 W/air ride.. here in Canada best mpg I've gotten with no trailer and on areo with a flat road they allowed my eco to pop on making it 6cl instead of 8 is 26 burning down highway. Without eco best is 14-18 mpg my truck just hit 105,000 kmor 65000ml and I only run 91oct since I got it I do feel the difference in performance but not at the pump and I don't have to change the oil as often unlike I would have to do running 87oct and I usually go about 77-80mph 91 Oct works best 89 is ok it works but loose about 1.2 mpg in 89 and just running the truck not driving you loose 0.3-0.5gal per hr or 2L an hr however when I travel less then 70 mph I get super bad mpg it's a beast my pocket my not like it but I love it
Good data! One thing you might find interesting is that eco actually means the truck is running on only 4 cylinders. The truck can’t run on 6 (only one bank of 4 cylinders is running at a time, and it alternates from left bank to right bank every few seconds). It’s amazing how smooth it’s able to run on only 4 cylinders, it definitely feels like it’s running on 6.
@@TruckCentral oh excellent to know I thought it was 6 not 4 since it still hands quiet a bit of power if you throttle right and your right it is super smooth
Diesel gets better too, but the cost of fuel is more. The computer is doing a average also. Last trip just before the grapevine in California I averaged 25.0 at 75/80 mph. Not towing on this trip. 06 , 5.9 quad cab, long bed, 4 wheel drive in two wheel, 1 ton, auto.
Wow you have crazy much idle time. (I'm from Switzerland and love your videos) When engine is warm you can calculate about 0.5 gal for idling per hour with AC on. But for cold start in the first time till normal operation temperature it needs a bit more gas and in winter the cold start is much longer, but AC need not that much power. So I think, all over when you calculate per hour with 0.55 gal you are pretty near realistic.
I was really close to buying a 2019 limited back in 2019 the only thing that kept me from getting one was that a couple years prior the hemis were locking up and people were having trouble getting them fixed or warrantied. Bought a 2019 sierra denali cause it was my dream truck it has some quirks but hasn’t gave me major problems yet, im thinking of selling it to a dealer since it’s worth about the same as I got it so I can save or use the “equity” for something else. And in the meantime wait a little bit then get either a 2019 ram limited or 2015 f150 king ranch
Two questions: 1. What percentage of these MPG numbers were with the All Terrain tires vs all season tires? 2. What app do you use for fuel and maintenance? Thanks!
I have a 22 v6 with etorque, 2wd. So basically the theoretical ‘best mpg combo’. I live in a highly congested city, requires almost year-round ac, and commute with the truck. Pure city driving would be 18-19 mpg, and on road trips it would be 22-25. Combined, with about 40 city/60 highway, I got 20.5 mpg. Also never towed.
It’s crazy how much the mpg varies among the comments. That being said my last Chevy 12.6-13 mpg. It loved 60 mph for some reason and got 16 but only at that speed. Maybe the Hemi is the same.
pick up trucks are huge things.. driving at 60mph vs 70mph, the wind resistance makes a huge difference. if you sit on the highway at 60mph, just cruising, and you got pumped up tires and maybe a canope to reduce bed drag. consistenly getting 20-21mpg isn't difficult. but who cares.. pick up trucks are tools to get shit done. that is why they are so great.
On all my Ford 3.5 ecos I got over 20 mpg combined. I now have the powerboost and get 25 mpg hwy 23+ combined. I have more power and tow than any Ram or GM truck.
Your truck will run fine on 87. Fuel economy and performance will be *slightly* lower than if you were to use 89. Are you at sea level or high elevation? (I’ve never heard of 89 not being available except in places like Colorado)
@@TruckCentral PNW (WA, ID, OR), mostly sea level but lots of mountain driving. Most gas stations, especially in rural areas, are only 87/91. Just bought a 2019 Limited with 36k and trying to figure out what range to expect with the 33 gallon tank.
2021 Ram Laramie 5.7 4x4 One size tire bigger than stock Texas highways running about 78 mph 22 mile commute to work (one way) Truck says I average around 15mpg. But in reality its 14-14.5 mpg
I have a 2014 Silverado near fully loaded Z71 5.3, if I set my cruise control at 74 MPH I'll average 24 MPG. Towing my two quads with the cruise control set at 74 MPH I'll average around 19 mpg.. I've gotten 590 miles on one 26 gallon tank with out running out of fuel many times...
Yup lots of factors. I have the pentastar and it does alright. It's better when it's hot outside and worse when it's cold, better at 65 then 70, if it's windy get your wallet out , it drops way off. Pulling my double jet ski trailer it sucks. Best i ever seen on a straight away from toledo to Cincinnati all highway 25.7
19'crew cab 4x4 with 3.92s.. on hwy im getting about 15mpg.. and a little less combined, absolutely love the look, interior, and how the truck drives. The fuel mileage however is terrible, to the point i regret buying the truck.. stock height on the 275 tires..
My province in Canada has a 56 mph speed limit, also I run 89 fuel. 20 MPG is possible highway with my 2018 Sport with 10 ply 34s (AT3 XLT). Speedometer corrected for tire height with alfa obd by the way. I think the Hurricane motor will be required for any mileage increase in these Rams. But what is going to happen with the reliability here? My Hemi has been really good to me, besides a few minor annoyances here and there. Currently, for example there are some red crustys around outside of the head gasket on the passenger side, no mixing of the oil or signs of anything internal. 75k miles on mine. Interesting wear and tear videos here.
@@MrJustinWheeler To get the good dual injection, that keeps the valves clean, you need to get the HO version apparently. SO is dirty direct injection only for some reason.
I'm gong to give a guess that chevy's 4 cylinder turbo engine truck could be a fairly good indicator of how well these small engine turbos will hold up...say... 5 years down the line? My gut tells me that these turbo induced engines will not have the same life expectancy, unless they are beefed up with a lot of cast iron. like the 3/4ton and up Cummins are built. My thoughts on the matter is that a Super High compression engine (aka: dual turbo charged for the low and high ends) inside a light construction engine is just not going to hold up as well as a non turbo engine with extra cylinders.
@@Hydra360ci 70 some odd pounds lighter than the 5.7 for the SO inline 6. And same 70 some odd pounds lighter for the HO compared to the 6.4. Not built like that by the looks of it.
@@peiguy1982 So it's beefed up a bit then. 5.7 does have the added weight of 2 cylinders to consider. 70lbs lighter isn't much for almost half the cylinder volume (5.7L vs 3.0L) I mean the only way you could match the HP of those is to have extremely high pressures in the 3.0L. And higher pressures = stress.
I have driven two Rams with the Hemi engine, both were work trucks and both have been terrible on gas, 15 mpgs and no better and before anyone claims that I drove them hard, both have been equipped with GPS units that monitor speed so it's not that. 70 percent highway and 30 on rural roads and logging roads. They get terrible mileage and I wouldn't own one for that reason alone.
Hadn’t thought about that, but it does make sense. Lower air density presumably means less wind resistance. Probably makes a bigger impact on trucks than we assume. Good comment, thanks 👍
@@TruckCentral that is a good point and i think that is true but this is what most of the online resources say "Fuel economy improves at higher altitude in all engines because the pumping work is reduced. As you go up, a lower manifold vacuum is required to move the car. The lower vacuum means lower pumping work and the result is better fuel economy" i think thats also why lower octane like 85 is availible in high elevations like utah and colorado and not in other states
Yep, I was going to say idling consumes roughly .3-.35 gallons per hour. So you would take out 390 gallons of idling fuel, you’d be at 14.039 mpg combined.
For what it’s worth I have a 2012 Silverado 5.3 with 200k miles and get 16 overall most of my driving is highway I suspect it’s 18 and 14 when I am city
No Better than my 6.4 I had. It averaged around the same. I need something with better mpg so thanks for the video. I was bringing about buying a new ram 5.7 but with that kind of mpg I couldn’t justify it as a daily driver.
*What do you drive and what kind of MPG are you seeing?*
I have a 2017 1500 crew cab 5.7 sport w/ air ride. I do a lot of highway driving and my combined is about 19. I do use the mpg booster Diablo tune. Stock otherwise other than 10 ply tires.
2019 ram 1500 5.7, Cold air intake, jms pedal max, 33x12.5x20 tires. Average 14mpg all together. Run 93 most of the time
Would be very interested in your findings on Aero mode breakeven numbers. I’m currently in a 2018 Audi A4 but looking at a Laramie build. As I mock it up, I’m not adding the air suspension at $1800. Curious if the efficiency numbers would justify the expense at some point.
21 rebel... 24 mpg with 2k miles
Gear ratio, net weight, 4x4 etc.
Your attention to detail and data collections is pretty incredible. Awesome series
Thanks Matt! It’s a lot of work, but it’s the only way to get real irrefutable data. Thanks for watching!
I have the same truck, and after almost a yr and a half, I get around 13 mpg and I STILL have less than 6k miles on it. Its crazy how much you drive man!
Followed you almost a year ago when I really wanted to buy a 2019+ Ram Limited... I have a BMW M6 now but still watch bc you're so thorough
Thanks Steven! Appreciate the support.
This is the kind of high mileage updates we want. Excellent
Thanks Jay! Happy to help. Thanks for watching!
I had a 2021 Ram I purchased in August of 2021. It was averaging 20 mpg on its last few tanks. I put 35k miles on it in that time. Sadly it was totaled when a driver ran a red light and hit my drivers side door flipping me over. I walked away with a small scratch on my knee. I will definitely be purchasing another.
Good to know it handled a side impact and rollover relatively well. Glad you’re okay!!
Well done and very forthright. I appreciate your videos, thanks for sharing such good info.
I appreciate the comment John. Thanks for watching!
The best I've seen with my 2019(according to the computer) was 25.4 average for a 2k mile trip from Denver to the Grand Canyon and Phoenix and back. Both 85 and 87 octane. I typically see 18ish daily driving and 10ish while towing.
Interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 25 mpg downhill (from Denver to the Grand Canyon). But if your total trip average was 25 mpg that would be really impressive. All stock?
@@MrJustinWheeler 100% stock. I was shocked.
I have a 2009 Ram 1500 with 180,000 miles on mind with a 4.7 v8. Ian getting 23 on hwy and 19 miles city driving. 16 mpg pulling a trailer.
Those are some respectable numbers. Long live the 4.7 👍
2020Ram1500 5.7 with no etorque , with 3.21 rear end have gotten up to 25 mpg at 64 mph, that's a sweet spot on my truck with the air damperner.
'17 ecodiesel with ECM tune, 3.55 rear end, Big Horn 4wd crew cab. Overall 27-29 at 75 mph, 28-30 @ 70, as high as 32-33 at 55-65. Towing 6000# travel trailer ~12-14.
Makes a strong case for the ecodiesel
Yup. Those numbers are accurate. A very strong case. I don’t tow. And I hope on the highway 2-3 times a week. Mainly back roads some city and I’m about 27.9 average.
Hey Justin, great series! Idea to back out your idle fuel consumption. Head to the gas station & fill up. Let the truck idle at the pump for 15 or 30 minutes, and then fill it back up. This will allow you to calculate the fuel consumption per idle minute (or quarter hour, etc). Using the idle time built into the truck you will be able to determine how much fuel has been consumed while idling. I imagine that you will get more accurate data if you let the truck idle longer at the pump before refilling. Thanks again for the great series!
That’s a good idea. I hadn’t thought about that. I will give it a try. Thank you!
Most gas stations do not allow sitting idle at the pump for safety reasons…
2018 1500 Laramie 5.7, 3.92 rear, 4x4, 87 Octane (lowest available here on Long Island). I commute from about dead center Long Island into nyc 5 days a week for work so not much traffic going to work but a parking lot the whole way home. I average between 18 and 21 usually. Truck is stock except a 24” magnaflow ultra flow (straight through) model is 12388
I get around 12.5 mpg since new running nothing but 91 octane premium fuel as I both drive conservatively around town 85% of the time but often nail it going onto the freeway or to pass another vehicle on the highway. I reset my milage & took it even easier & picked up a 13.5 average, about the same as my 2008 Hemi Ram.
Fantastic video, thank you for keeping such detailed information
Great video. This is the type of stuff I really wanted to know a few months back when debating over buying a Limited or not. I ended up buying one, but it's still pretty handy information to have.
I think I'm averaging about 15 - 16 mpg just from my commute.
As to the idle thing, I would imagine the truck uses a lot of gas on idle, just going by how much gas my truck consumes on really heavy traffic. Which is not even an issue when you have the adaptive cruise control.
Glad you went with the limited. You won’t regret it. Awesome trucks. Thanks for watching!
Another great video. Obviously we use our trucks differently but I have a 2020 Bighorn with the 5.7 and 3:92 gear ratio and I'm averaging 17-18 mpg. In the winter during warm ups it's less. I am surprised that your not getting better than that with the 3:21. But again, we use our trucks differently. Thanks for another great vid.
Using your combined 13.8mpg average means you'll burn 7,246 gallons of fuel per 100k miles. If you didn't use aero mode or have air suspension you said it'd be 0.5mpg less. So at 13.3mpg over 100k miles is 7,519 gallons. Difference of 273 gallons of fuel saved every 100k with air suspension!
It's about a 3.6% fuel savings.
You'll save about 1 gallon of fuel every 26 gallon fill-up. (It takes 27 gallons w/o aero to go the same distance as 26 gallons with aero)
Thanks for running those numbers. So aero mode alone wouldn’t offset the cost of jumping up to a limited, but it could take a decent chunk out of the price.
I have a 2019 Quad Cab Longhorn 4x4 with the 3.6 Pentastar. 22 mpg on flat road at steady 60mph. 19.5 at my normal 77 mph on the interstate. I guess I get lesser mileage because my 6 cylinder has 2 more cylinders than the hemi at highway speed. Long term average with in-town mix is 17.5 including towing. I think its pretty good for a 2 ton truck.
Not bad at all if you ask me. Thanks for the feedback!
Wow I hav a 21 ram 1500 w/ the 5.7 etorque and get 17 mix highway and city about 50/50
Also it’s 4x4
Why do you elect to drive at 77 mph? Inefficiency is the consequence of High speeds and negligible time saved makes it a waste. Try 64 mph for around 20-25% less fuel on cruise control. Two to 3 more mpg means 300 more miles per 100 gallons. Try it. Thanks
@@Rhaman68 The speed limit is 70. 77 is the max "safe speed" you can set the cruise control on and not worry about a ticket. 64 in a 70 and I would get run over.
How reliable has that v6 been?
There is a thread out long ago about the 4th gen hemi idle fuel consumption. I used to get 23 ish with 3:21s the factory SRAS @ 63-73 in the upper midwest. Now im diablo tuned with duractracs so care not to look at things like that.
Definitely going to look for that thread… there will be a part 2 to this video at some point.
You may not get your 22 miles per gallon but it is the BEST TRUCK OF ALL YEARS! WE can go into the future 30 years from now and your truck will still be DOMINATING! 🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏
Mr. Wheeler, good to see you as always. My one question for you, what is your gear ratio ? That alone plays a factor. My 2020 Longhorn loaded except for air suspension, I’ve calculated as low as 12.6 to as high as 21.8. The low end includes idle time during winter and letting the truck warm up before getting in it for work in the morning which is an 11 mile ride to work one way. But the high end is highway driving to either the OBX from Pittsburgh or the the Finger lakes in New York. 3.21 or 3.92 gear ratio can make a significant difference. Even though you have a Limited, I’m not sure what gear ratio they have. Great video, especially now with where fuel prices are. Take care my friend, see you in the next video.
Thanks Jim. Safe to say we have seen a very similar range in data. I have the 3.21 gear ratio. What about you?
@@MrJustinWheeler The Longhorn runs 3.92s. It’s also the off road package, which supposedly gives the truck an extra 1” in lift, with all the skid plates and a 6’-4” bed. I’ve installed the RamAir intake and thinking about installing the Mopar exhaust the GT package has. Still debating that one. I love the sound of the GT exhaust but I’m 52 now and loud exhausts seem to be a younger mans thing. We’ll see.
@@jimlove3795 I’m right there with you on the exhaust topic. I love the sound of a well engineered exhaust. But I also love peace and quiet. Haha.
@@MrJustinWheeler My inner child will probably get the better of me !
Huge part of it is his idle time my trucks (small pickup atm) gets 22 during summer no idle time and when temps drop my mpg drops t0 16/17 mpg
That’s also my issue. I never am able to get the mileage that is advertised or the vehicle is capable of because I am always waiting on something or someone. It is not odd for me to sit in my truck at carpool, waiting on one of my children, waiting to meet up with them or my wife, waiting for a business to open, meeting to be over, etc. Those individual wait times do exceed 30 minutes on a regular basis.
the 3.21 vs 3.91 axle ratio strongly impacts mpg with higher axle ratio for towing lowering mpg
22 1500 limited 4x4 ,loaded eTorque, 3.92 gears, 33gal tank 6’4” bed, stock tires on the stock 20” wheels 12k miles. Got between 21-22mpg on a long road trip cruise set to 68-70 and about 19-20mpg with cruise set to 74-76, and I get between 18.5-19.5 to and from work (17 miles 1 way)
At what mileage or age of the truck would a person consider it’s broken in and getting the best mileage mpg
I have a 2022 Laramie and get close to 18 combined! I have 20 inch wheels he has 22’s and all terrain tires. That makes a big difference. In the summer I see my truck easily getting 19 combined.
That’s pretty good. Is that mostly highway driving?
@@MrJustinWheeler I’d say 50/50
Are you running a 3.21 rear gear
@@shanedickman6180 believe so I haven’t double checked.
I live in mexico in a major city, i have a 2020 classic sport with the 5.7 hemi, upgrade tires to all terrain 34s and most of my driving is in cyti traffic, i get 20 liters pero 100 kms or around 12 mpgs no towing at all most of the time i travel alone
That’s definitely on the lower end. But all city driving and larger tires can definitely hurt the economy. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I'm sure you brought it up and may have missed it but how much stuff you have lying around in your truck bed such as toolboxes and tools along with possible other equipment such as spare fuel jugs and or bottles of refill liquids such as oil, antifreeze etc also weighs down the truck and decreases fuel efficiency.
Yeah that’s a good point. And it’s one that I actually intended to cover and forgot. I keep my truck pretty loaded down. The RamBoxes are packed and the bed is always 1/4 full of tools. I know that adds a decent decrease to my mpg average. Thanks for watching!
Can you please do a video on air suspension. You've put alot of miles on it and it would be interesting to see how the air suspension holding up, how much weight you put in it, etc.. I have a 21 limited, kind of want to know what to expect from the suspension. Thanks
I’ve put my air suspension through hell and it’s still working great. Anything specific you want to know?
@@MrJustinWheeler I guess I'm more concerned about payload. What's your payload and if you went over the stated payload, by how much. My sticker shows payload of 1040lb, so I'm wondering if it can actually hold more than the stated number.
Well I have been in the market and really want a Ram, but after I bought a new one in 1999 that had the 360 magnum its kept me from doing so cause that truck got about 9 mpg it was terrible, your video has have me 2nd thoughts ty sir
1.26 ounces per 90 secs at a stop light.
I have a 2020 Laramie with etorque, 305/55r20 tires and I'm only seeing 13. Is this normal?
Any know what the new V6 ram gets with mpg? And if it has 3.55 gears?
My 2019 ram crew 5.7 hemi with 3.21 rear, 6'4" bed and regular hemi not the one that shuts off at idle, i average 12-14 mpg city and 15-18 hwy however my best efforts to play with throttle for mileage i got a 21 mpg highway trip once. The mileage sucks so will be looking into a fuel saver chip. I have about 20k miles on mine. I had it since new
I’ve always got about 17/18 mpg with mud terrain tires and an offset wheel. I always run 93 octane tho
just throwing that money away
Hmmm, I get the same on 87 octane….
I never tried 93. I didn’t notice a large enough difference between 85 and 91 to give 93 a shot. Maybe I’ll make a couple runs with it and add that to the data set. Thanks for watching!
@@MrJustinWheeler yeah I’d be interested, I was under the impression that 93 gave you optimum power output to.
I gotta 2020 Ram 1500 limited with the 5.7
W/air ride.. here in Canada best mpg I've gotten with no trailer and on areo with a flat road they allowed my eco to pop on making it 6cl instead of 8 is 26 burning down highway. Without eco best is 14-18 mpg my truck just hit 105,000 kmor 65000ml and I only run 91oct since I got it I do feel the difference in performance but not at the pump and I don't have to change the oil as often unlike I would have to do running 87oct and I usually go about 77-80mph 91 Oct works best 89 is ok it works but loose about 1.2 mpg in 89 and just running the truck not driving you loose 0.3-0.5gal per hr or 2L an hr however when I travel less then 70 mph I get super bad mpg it's a beast my pocket my not like it but I love it
Good data! One thing you might find interesting is that eco actually means the truck is running on only 4 cylinders. The truck can’t run on 6 (only one bank of 4 cylinders is running at a time, and it alternates from left bank to right bank every few seconds). It’s amazing how smooth it’s able to run on only 4 cylinders, it definitely feels like it’s running on 6.
@@TruckCentral oh excellent to know I thought it was 6 not 4 since it still hands quiet a bit of power if you throttle right and your right it is super smooth
How many idling hours do you have compared to driving hours
Diesel gets better too, but the cost of fuel is more. The computer is doing a average also. Last trip just before the grapevine in California I averaged 25.0 at 75/80 mph. Not towing on this trip. 06 , 5.9 quad cab, long bed, 4 wheel drive in two wheel, 1 ton, auto.
Wow you have crazy much idle time. (I'm from Switzerland and love your videos)
When engine is warm you can calculate about 0.5 gal for idling per hour with AC on. But for cold start in the first time till normal operation temperature it needs a bit more gas and in winter the cold start is much longer, but AC need not that much power. So I think, all over when you calculate per hour with 0.55 gal you are pretty near realistic.
I was really close to buying a 2019 limited back in 2019 the only thing that kept me from getting one was that a couple years prior the hemis were locking up and people were having trouble getting them fixed or warrantied. Bought a 2019 sierra denali cause it was my dream truck it has some quirks but hasn’t gave me major problems yet, im thinking of selling it to a dealer since it’s worth about the same as I got it so I can save or use the “equity” for something else. And in the meantime wait a little bit then get either a 2019 ram limited or 2015 f150 king ranch
Two questions:
1. What percentage of these MPG numbers were with the All Terrain tires vs all season tires?
2. What app do you use for fuel and maintenance?
Thanks!
I have a 22 v6 with etorque, 2wd. So basically the theoretical ‘best mpg combo’. I live in a highly congested city, requires almost year-round ac, and commute with the truck. Pure city driving would be 18-19 mpg, and on road trips it would be 22-25. Combined, with about 40 city/60 highway, I got 20.5 mpg. Also never towed.
It’s crazy how much the mpg varies among the comments.
That being said my last Chevy 12.6-13 mpg. It loved 60 mph for some reason and got 16 but only at that speed. Maybe the Hemi is the same.
pick up trucks are huge things.. driving at 60mph vs 70mph, the wind resistance makes a huge difference. if you sit on the highway at 60mph, just cruising, and you got pumped up tires and maybe a canope to reduce bed drag. consistenly getting 20-21mpg isn't difficult.
but who cares.. pick up trucks are tools to get shit done. that is why they are so great.
Pardon, did you state what engine your truck has? Thanks.
5.7 Hemi (without eTorque)
Kind of curious. What’s your oil pressure like when you are idling for a long time? I’m wondering how low it has dipped.
On all my Ford 3.5 ecos I got over 20 mpg combined. I now have the powerboost and get 25 mpg hwy 23+ combined. I have more power and tow than any Ram or GM truck.
Hey man do you have the 3.92 Gear. ratio?
3.21
@TruckCentral I was. gonna blame some of that mileage on your gear ratio, but you have the highway gears.
What's the difference between 87 and 89 octane? I can only get 87 or 91 where I am and 91 is very expensive.
Your truck will run fine on 87. Fuel economy and performance will be *slightly* lower than if you were to use 89. Are you at sea level or high elevation? (I’ve never heard of 89 not being available except in places like Colorado)
@@TruckCentral PNW (WA, ID, OR), mostly sea level but lots of mountain driving. Most gas stations, especially in rural areas, are only 87/91. Just bought a 2019 Limited with 36k and trying to figure out what range to expect with the 33 gallon tank.
Did you notice a difference based on your mpg when your truck was new vs higher mileage?
I drive a 2020 Lonestar Ram 1500 with the hemi and off road package 4x4 and I average 14 mpg with mostly city driving.
2021 Ram Laramie 5.7 4x4 One size tire bigger than stock
Texas highways running about 78 mph 22 mile commute to work (one way)
Truck says I average around 15mpg. But in reality its 14-14.5 mpg
Great cideo
Thank you!
I have a 2014 Silverado near fully loaded Z71 5.3, if I set my cruise control at 74 MPH I'll average 24 MPG.
Towing my two quads with the cruise control set at 74 MPH I'll average around 19 mpg..
I've gotten 590 miles on one 26 gallon tank with out running out of fuel many times...
That’s pretty impressive Phil. Always a fan of Silverados. Thanks for watching!
@@MrJustinWheeler and in 136,000 miles I've only had to replace the radiator, brakes, thermostat and the battery..
That's impressive, because I haven't seen a single 5.3 get anywhere near that, including my old truck.
@@jasonfalk7696 it's the direct injection Lt V8 constant variable valve timing.
My buddy gets 25 highway with his..
Yup lots of factors. I have the pentastar and it does alright. It's better when it's hot outside and worse when it's cold, better at 65 then 70, if it's windy get your wallet out , it drops way off. Pulling my double jet ski trailer it sucks. Best i ever seen on a straight away from toledo to Cincinnati all highway 25.7
Good insight on the V6, and your point about windy days is absolutely true! 😂 Curious what your overall average is.
@@TruckCentral my display is usually around 19 mixed city and highway
19'crew cab 4x4 with 3.92s.. on hwy im getting about 15mpg.. and a little less combined, absolutely love the look, interior, and how the truck drives. The fuel mileage however is terrible, to the point i regret buying the truck.. stock height on the 275 tires..
I have a 2014 Silverado with 237,000 and get 22 mpg at 65 mph cruise control on. At 75 mph I’m at 18 mpg
My province in Canada has a 56 mph speed limit, also I run 89 fuel. 20 MPG is possible highway with my 2018 Sport with 10 ply 34s (AT3 XLT). Speedometer corrected for tire height with alfa obd by the way. I think the Hurricane motor will be required for any mileage increase in these Rams. But what is going to happen with the reliability here? My Hemi has been really good to me, besides a few minor annoyances here and there. Currently, for example there are some red crustys around outside of the head gasket on the passenger side, no mixing of the oil or signs of anything internal. 75k miles on mine. Interesting wear and tear videos here.
The hurricane is definitely going to shake some things up. I am concerned about reliability, but I’m willing to give it a try.
@@MrJustinWheeler To get the good dual injection, that keeps the valves clean, you need to get the HO version apparently. SO is dirty direct injection only for some reason.
I'm gong to give a guess that chevy's 4 cylinder turbo engine truck could be a fairly good indicator of how well these small engine turbos will hold up...say... 5 years down the line? My gut tells me that these turbo induced engines will not have the same life expectancy, unless they are beefed up with a lot of cast iron. like the 3/4ton and up Cummins are built.
My thoughts on the matter is that a Super High compression engine (aka: dual turbo charged for the low and high ends) inside a light construction engine is just not going to hold up as well as a non turbo engine with extra cylinders.
@@Hydra360ci 70 some odd pounds lighter than the 5.7 for the SO inline 6. And same 70 some odd pounds lighter for the HO compared to the 6.4. Not built like that by the looks of it.
@@peiguy1982 So it's beefed up a bit then. 5.7 does have the added weight of 2 cylinders to consider. 70lbs lighter isn't much for almost half the cylinder volume (5.7L vs 3.0L) I mean the only way you could match the HP of those is to have extremely high pressures in the 3.0L. And higher pressures = stress.
2015 Ram 2500 Crew cab 4x4 camper shell 6speed, CERT emergency rigged= 10,500lbs deleted stock kn China Stainless Intake. 498k 27-33mpgs freeway!
I have driven two Rams with the Hemi engine, both were work trucks and both have been terrible on gas, 15 mpgs and no better and before anyone claims that I drove them hard, both have been equipped with GPS units that monitor speed so it's not that. 70 percent highway and 30 on rural roads and logging roads. They get terrible mileage and I wouldn't own one for that reason alone.
surprisingly elevation increases mpg i know it sounds counter intuitive but research is out there
Hadn’t thought about that, but it does make sense. Lower air density presumably means less wind resistance. Probably makes a bigger impact on trucks than we assume. Good comment, thanks 👍
@@TruckCentral that is a good point and i think that is true but this is what most of the online resources say "Fuel economy improves at higher altitude in all engines because the pumping work is reduced. As you go up, a lower manifold vacuum is required to move the car. The lower vacuum means lower pumping work and the result is better fuel economy" i think thats also why lower octane like 85 is availible in high elevations like utah and colorado and not in other states
I have the start stop wit the etorque 5.7 hemi.
usually an hour of idling is comparable to 25 to 30 miles for a gas vehicle.
I have my 00 dodge ram diesel 5.9 250.xxx miles and I'm getting 22.6 mpg,, but when I had Michelin tires I was getting almost 26 mpg
I would like extended version.
On my 3rd Ram in 3 years id say I averaged 12 mpg from all of them ..lol....do i care ..NO
Ya heavy foot dude you!, 🤣🤣🤣
@@ramrider1453 yes Sir😁👌👍
Haha MPGs is just a number. Drive it like you stole it. 🤣
@@MrJustinWheeler 👌😁👍
Burned like 20 years of gas in my car lol
Fuel quality will also make 20% difference.
0.3 gallons per hour Dodge Ram Vehicles burn at idle that's for a 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi motor
Thank you! Imagine it wouldn’t be much different for a non-eTorque 2019+ Ram
Yep, I was going to say idling consumes roughly .3-.35 gallons per hour. So you would take out 390 gallons of idling fuel, you’d be at 14.039 mpg combined.
For what it’s worth I have a 2012 Silverado 5.3 with 200k miles and get 16 overall most of my driving is highway I suspect it’s 18 and 14 when I am city
2019 ram 1500 classic 22.5 highway at 70 mph
MPG doesn't matter when you don't have a payment to make every month
Oof that's pretty rough on mpg average for the life of the truck.
I've gotten 22-24 Mpg on the highway
Idling burns .5-.8 gallons per hour.
I have a 19 bighorn crew cab 4x4 3.21 gears ready lift 3.5 inches and 35s m/t tires on 20×10 rims 12 mpgs the worst driving in town 15 mpgs in highway
Why do they lie?
Who?
@@TruckCentral
All manufacturers, about there MPG. 🤥
No Better than my 6.4 I had. It averaged around the same. I need something with better mpg so thanks for the video. I was bringing about buying a new ram 5.7 but with that kind of mpg I couldn’t justify it as a daily driver.