What to buy the guitarist who has everything? An oil can guitar & a Miku of course!!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @anonymousprime1738
    @anonymousprime1738 7 лет назад +111

    I want a 7 string one fitted with an emg and an ebony fretboard

  • @3cardmonty602
    @3cardmonty602 7 лет назад +191

    If it is dented it will end up on the Gibson website.

    • @kbkman7742
      @kbkman7742 7 лет назад +13

      neck angle looks too spot on for Gibson

    • @szczerzo
      @szczerzo 7 лет назад +7

      Dented? 200000$ for this vintage can.

  • @marcushogan6613
    @marcushogan6613 7 лет назад +105

    Let’s be honest this video just made everyone’s week, maybe even their month. Couldn’t have asked for better!!!! Also aside from that epic Purple Haze cover and his very appropriate slide playing did anyone else notice Rob's cow guitar strap!?

    • @JendaHrbac
      @JendaHrbac 7 лет назад +2

      the cowstrap has been around for a while, now.

    • @marcushogan6613
      @marcushogan6613 7 лет назад

      I know that but it just suits the tin cans so much!

  • @1961jscofield
    @1961jscofield 7 лет назад +446

    Do they use a nitro finish to allow the tin to breathe?

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 7 лет назад +8

      They are probably cans that hold the nitro.

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 7 лет назад +2

      JH Scofield the nitro's inside silly @):-

    • @cyrfung
      @cyrfung 7 лет назад +24

      Which tone metal gives the best tone?

    • @drdoener535
      @drdoener535 7 лет назад +3

      cyrfung I like the warm tone of copper.

    • @szczerzo
      @szczerzo 7 лет назад +6

      Steel 10 foot beam. Johan Segeborn proved they have great sustain

  • @EpictheEpicest
    @EpictheEpicest 7 лет назад +188

    I'm curious if the electronics are water tight to allow you to actually use the can for beer or something. That would be a really neat party trick for gigs.

    • @vondoom2876
      @vondoom2876 7 лет назад +17

      EpictheEpicest. seriously considering a diy build for this!

    • @TrippyTheShroom
      @TrippyTheShroom 7 лет назад +23

      Of course, the guy with Mike Stoklasa as his profile pic would be interested in making his guitar for alcohol. You hack fraud.

    • @khronscave
      @khronscave 7 лет назад +9

      You'd want the electronics *sealed* (as in watertight), not merely shielded...

    • @EpictheEpicest
      @EpictheEpicest 7 лет назад +2

      Yea, that's what I meant.

    • @philc5513
      @philc5513 7 лет назад +18

      EpictheEpicest Or drill a hole on the other side. Install a gauze and you have a bong guitar.😂

  • @GASMan-57
    @GASMan-57 Год назад +1

    I bought a Miku a few years ago. The first thing I used it for was to play the vocal line from Celine Dion’s “My Heart Will Go On”. For me, that was worth the price of admission right there. LOL

  • @ClarkyGuitar
    @ClarkyGuitar 7 лет назад +22

    I've been making these and cigar box guitars for a few years. The fun is in making your own, for as cheap as possible, and playing it at the end is totally satisfying. I have quite a few on my channel.

    • @bombercountyblues
      @bombercountyblues 7 лет назад +1

      clarkyboy100 me too man,,,kind of annoying seeing real guitar companys pushing their way into the c.b.g. scene innit..

    • @ClarkyGuitar
      @ClarkyGuitar 7 лет назад

      Jon Trownson Yeah I thought the video was a wee bit disrespectful and a bit snobby. Making oil can guitars and cigar box guitars is an art. There are some great builders out there and a whole community of builders and players. Plenty people out on the road gigging these instruments too, not just a bit of fun!

    • @ironrain1x
      @ironrain1x 7 лет назад +1

      this comment maybe a bit late but I to have worked with building cigar box guitars and it is an art. I also met guys who build their own pickups and that is frustrating work

  • @bobhiggins77
    @bobhiggins77 7 лет назад +1

    Hi Lee and Rob,
    THANK YOU!! I’ve been off work with severe depression due to a death in the family, I’d virtually given up on life and it’s been such a dark time for Me this last couple of months.
    THIS VIDEO MADE ME GENUINELY BELLY LAUGH FOR THE 1st time since my gran finally passed.
    Thanks guys!

  • @tootiegrigio713
    @tootiegrigio713 7 лет назад +30

    Enter Can Man

  • @titanuranus
    @titanuranus 7 лет назад +1

    14:45 Miku is elevated to a transcendental level of artistic scrumtrulescence. KUDOS!

  • @OL-Electric
    @OL-Electric 7 лет назад +14

    Ukulele pro-tip: Capo your regular guitar on 5th fret, play only the 4 highest strings -> now it's an ukulele fretboard. So basicly all the movable chords still work

    • @PapaJohn1612
      @PapaJohn1612 7 лет назад

      I didn't think of the capo usage, but I always knew to play up there about the 5th fret when playing along with my brother on his ukulele.

  • @boredguy8497
    @boredguy8497 7 лет назад +3

    I feel so proud to see Bohemian Guitars on this channel, I followed them on Instagram when they had their first couple thousand followers... So awesome to see them become popular enough to appear on Chappers' channel

  • @Ian10111
    @Ian10111 7 лет назад +5

    I’m a simple man, when I hear the miku pedal I click the like button. MORE MIKU PEDAL PLEASE!!!! 🤘🎸

  • @jacoba4578
    @jacoba4578 7 лет назад

    I've been in excruciating pain from some knee surgery I got yesterday, and I want to tell you that your videos really help me at least feel happier.

  • @jeromefournier5523
    @jeromefournier5523 7 лет назад +44

    You should plug a Miku in front of a talkbox!

    • @lotromaster14
      @lotromaster14 7 лет назад

      Doesnt work it switches the amp sound to the talk box and than nothing can be combined with it

    • @jeromefournier5523
      @jeromefournier5523 7 лет назад

      Yeah you can if you plug it in front of the Talk box

    • @rickeyryan303
      @rickeyryan303 6 лет назад

      nope still nothing i tried it , it doesn't work right.

  • @rus19297
    @rus19297 7 лет назад +1

    Those last few minutes were absolutely hysterical

  • @sparshpathak4813
    @sparshpathak4813 7 лет назад +99

    i'd put coke in the can and go full jimmy page

    • @titanuranus
      @titanuranus 7 лет назад +6

      I see what you did there.

  • @nathancundy6803
    @nathancundy6803 4 года назад

    I dont know if lee or rob will see this, but when im upset or having a bad day, you guys (and the rest of the team at andertons of course) make my life a bit more bearable. I often randomly think to myself 'im gonna put on an andertons video,' which one doesn't matter really as long as its got rob and lee in it. Just watching these videos brings me so much joy. I even have showed a mate of mine this channel and even tho he doesn't play music at all still loves you guys heaps! Thankyou guys and rock on you legends

  • @alangiles1213
    @alangiles1213 7 лет назад

    One of the most enjoyable videos on RUclips right now.

  • @originalgezus215
    @originalgezus215 7 лет назад

    I could watch these guys play for hours. Such good chemistry. Makes me smile 😁

  • @twogear518
    @twogear518 7 лет назад +10

    Exactly what I come to RUclips for. Entertainment and this delivered. Still laughing at the Miku jam.

  • @XsFWRTPX
    @XsFWRTPX 7 лет назад +1

    Lee was really feeling it during that purple haze cover.

  • @timbowers4250
    @timbowers4250 7 лет назад

    That opening was completely awesome!

  • @daniellongo7873
    @daniellongo7873 7 лет назад +2

    The Miku moment was the best one

  • @fluroflash2803
    @fluroflash2803 7 лет назад +398

    What you get when you buy a les Paul

    • @likeanuuk6612
      @likeanuuk6612 7 лет назад +28

      i was about to comment on how miku pedal is an old joke now, but this shot at gibson made me burst out laughing. i'm officially a hypocrite!

    • @Java78
      @Java78 7 лет назад

      😂

    • @therodeoflip
      @therodeoflip 7 лет назад +14

      Just bought a new Les Paul studio from andertons and its serious quality. Way better than any Chinese knock off hands down

    • @emptychair3932
      @emptychair3932 7 лет назад +5

      Josh Surridge
      It's hit or miss, some of them are still spectacular instruments. It's just that sometimes you may get unlucky, unfortunately.

    • @murphyia1980
      @murphyia1980 7 лет назад +1

      Got a 2017 LP Custom Studio from Amazon for a decent price and it's gorgeous. Will admit to knowing very little about guitars but my guitar teacher (who knows a bit more!) seemed to like it!

  • @seanpatrickwatkins640
    @seanpatrickwatkins640 7 лет назад

    Haha! I knew the Miku was coming but did not expect the pure brilliance of Lee singing into it. I almost spit out my coffee. Thanks for the laugh!!!!

  • @Mr.Silverleaf
    @Mr.Silverleaf 7 лет назад

    One of the best videos they have ever made.

  • @dainiusvysniauskas2049
    @dainiusvysniauskas2049 7 лет назад +49

    False. The answer is otamatone.

  • @jensenhealey08
    @jensenhealey08 7 лет назад

    Being a guitar player is a great help for ukulele and mandolin. The chord shape are strongly related to guitar chords. Standard Uke tunings are g,C,e,a and a,D,f#,b. This is the same as the top four strings of the guitar capoed at fret 5 or 7 respectiely, except that the string nearest your chin is tuned to the same note as the third fret on the second string (not an octave below). Chord shapes are the same as if you are playing a guitar with the two bottom strings missing.
    A mandolin is tuned like a violin G,D,A,e, which is just like a guitar upside down. So a G chord is fretted string 1 third fret (g) and string 2 second fret (b), the mirror image of the fifth and sixth string fretting of a guitar open G.
    Once you twig this you can throw away Mel Bay's chord book and work out the chords for yourself

  • @rocketmanrick
    @rocketmanrick 7 лет назад

    Chappers when he turns down the gain and plays in a major scale really has a nice touch

  • @kingstumble
    @kingstumble 7 лет назад

    Standard uke tuning is GCEA which is same as top 4 guitar strings capo'd at the 5th fret. So you can use your standard guitar chord fingering albeit somewhat simplified.

  • @Elderscrollsgamer9625
    @Elderscrollsgamer9625 6 лет назад

    I nearly died when the miku turned on as Lee made the sound effects in the can lol hysterical that pedal never ceases to amaze me

  • @hammyjammies
    @hammyjammies 7 лет назад +105

    Question is does the noise change if you fill up the can?

    • @stanislavmigra
      @stanislavmigra 7 лет назад +21

      now you really can add lot of diesel to your sound :D

    • @derpimusmaximus8815
      @derpimusmaximus8815 7 лет назад +8

      But of you filled it up with something lie fluorinert, which is non-conductive...

    • @OaNautilus92
      @OaNautilus92 7 лет назад +2

      stanislavmigra lmao! Thanks man, you just made my day

    • @jarreddean9054
      @jarreddean9054 7 лет назад

      ITS JOHN O’CLOCK MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!!!

    • @memebigboy1946
      @memebigboy1946 7 лет назад

      you need a comma in that sentence

  • @laurentparra3265
    @laurentparra3265 6 лет назад

    You really made my day gentlemen
    Never laughed that much watching a guitar demo
    Thanks a million !
    Laurent from France

  • @sunsetsarenice
    @sunsetsarenice 7 лет назад

    Tears were shed at the end.

  • @f.garrettlondon7611
    @f.garrettlondon7611 7 лет назад

    Omg! I lost it when you guys played purple haze. Awesome, love it!

  • @seancartwright3864
    @seancartwright3864 5 лет назад +1

    That opening little riff from Chappers is the opening to In The Sunshine by Clockwork Wolf!

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 7 лет назад +26

    What if you filled them with liquid? Would it differ wether you put water or oil in it? Alcohol or other inflammables? Tone-liquid discussion.

    • @FunkyMonkey-ip4xy
      @FunkyMonkey-ip4xy 7 лет назад +15

      I think the effect could be quite shocking......

    • @ChrisFranklyn
      @ChrisFranklyn 7 лет назад +12

      Half fill for a wavy reverb!

    • @Fiedzia
      @Fiedzia 7 лет назад +2

      I need best whiskey available... for my guitar, of course.

    • @torgo4ever
      @torgo4ever 7 лет назад +2

      Tone-liquid is a scam !! All you people paying top dollar for your Peruvian spring water guitars could get the same tone from the tap !

  • @Jay-vs4fi
    @Jay-vs4fi 7 лет назад

    They have such an eclectic American sound. Love it!

  • @111Makai111
    @111Makai111 7 лет назад

    I can only hope you guys keep on making videos... Great chemistry! Good fun!

  • @jorgevalenciano1976
    @jorgevalenciano1976 7 лет назад

    never would have pictured Rob playing slide. Great job, by the way. I love your product demos and guitar playing. Cheers, Mate from Laredo, Texas!!

  • @justinpowell534
    @justinpowell534 4 года назад +1

    These have been here in South Africa for ages, very unique indeed

  • @erkkajarvinen1229
    @erkkajarvinen1229 7 лет назад

    I honestly think that both the guitar and the ukulele sound wicked!!

  • @thermalegoogle
    @thermalegoogle 7 лет назад +10

    Let's make trying out the Miku a mandatory segment for all future participants in the "The Captain Meets" series.

    • @lemsdarkapprentice2535
      @lemsdarkapprentice2535 5 лет назад

      Misha Mansoor djenting on a oil-can guitar through a miku. Must. Be. Done. [el'sda2].

  • @reverendduke
    @reverendduke 7 лет назад

    extra points for the planes trains and automobiles reference!

  • @florianwolf9380
    @florianwolf9380 7 лет назад

    Who the hell needs a ‘59 Les Paul if you can have one of these monsters of blues ? Great stuff 👍👍👍

  • @bassicallyme2416
    @bassicallyme2416 7 лет назад

    I love listening to these guys!

  • @user-fk5lu6jp8p
    @user-fk5lu6jp8p 7 лет назад

    Play ukulele: 1. Try to emphasise the beat by hitting the strings to get a pecussive element going 2. Hit any old four chord progression 3. No 3.

  • @themaskedguitarman
    @themaskedguitarman 7 лет назад +4

    Waiting for the tone tin debate.
    "I personally find Italian olive oil cans give the best tone"

  • @BenFentem
    @BenFentem 7 лет назад +50

    Captain Li-ku

  • @WhatsUpWhitey
    @WhatsUpWhitey 7 лет назад

    Oh my gosh! Rob on the Uke! 😂
    I would love to see that at one of his shows!

  • @trollfiddler
    @trollfiddler 7 лет назад

    Miku section cracked me up. Great job guys.

  • @tomholton235
    @tomholton235 7 лет назад +7

    Can I get one with a Floyd Rose please?

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte1969 7 лет назад +1

    Oh hey, didn't know Chappers could drag out the slide. Some lovely licks there at the start, sir.

  • @stratplayer1459
    @stratplayer1459 7 лет назад

    would love a pt 2 to this... definitely made my week

  • @danielredman9475
    @danielredman9475 7 лет назад

    13.32 is the best jam they have ever done.

  • @superdarkshadow
    @superdarkshadow 7 лет назад

    You can actually use the same scales, chords based of the D-String and triads on a soprano uke as you would on the DGBe strings of the guitar. Just five half-steps higher. Or tune the G and C a half-step down, and you'll have the top EADG strings, but an octave and two half-steps higher. Usually the G String is the highest one, but you can replace that or work around it. I would certainly recommend a guitar player to just mess around with a ukulele for fun.

  • @petermead5931
    @petermead5931 7 лет назад

    It's all about the tone oil that was stored in the tin before it was made into an tinstrument that defines it's sound

  • @artheen4713
    @artheen4713 7 лет назад

    The Korg Miku Stomp is one of the few pedals I would never consider getting rid of. Despite its bad tracking, lack of non-Japanese software for programming it, and um, "unfortunate" juxtaposition of the graphic on the pedal and the stomp switch making Hakune Miku futunari, it's just awesome, in a pastel painted 2CV kind of way.

  • @ceeph36
    @ceeph36 7 лет назад

    It is the tone wood that make them sound great!!!

  • @bobbyberetta4206
    @bobbyberetta4206 7 лет назад

    Always loved the old motor oil and coffee cans.

  • @ntspang
    @ntspang 7 лет назад

    That tonewood is amazing.

  • @boozoochavis7506
    @boozoochavis7506 7 лет назад

    Chapluck, you just set slide guitar back 50 years ........ easily, and what was the Capt'n huffing in that can?! I'll never know how much of this gear you sell but it is certainly entertaining watching you both try it all out!

  • @AndruJorj
    @AndruJorj 7 лет назад

    Sounded rather good together at 9:15.

  • @MartinRonky
    @MartinRonky 7 лет назад

    Yes, I was thinking of Miku! My life is complete now, I can die in piece!

  • @FacPhoto
    @FacPhoto 7 лет назад

    They sound great to be fair!

  • @InTheSh8
    @InTheSh8 7 лет назад +12

    How long can you play until having to refuel?

    • @thatguyoverthere531
      @thatguyoverthere531 5 лет назад

      Depends on the string gauge, if you have 13's it will use more than 7's

  • @antmax
    @antmax 7 лет назад

    Thanks for cheering up a sick dude with a cold. Burst out laughing towards the end with a bunch of snot flying everywhere. Miku also drove my three pugs nuts and woke up the wife. Funny stuff and those can instruments sounded interesting and not terrible like I expected.

  • @rikorisu11
    @rikorisu11 7 лет назад

    so proud to be a miku owner

  • @SpeedBoost
    @SpeedBoost 5 лет назад

    Rob says he's not a Ukulele Player, but he has a video on his Rob Chapman channel where he's playing a Ukulele (quite proficiently) and it's clearly before this video as Rob still has his dreads in the video.

  • @Merkaba954
    @Merkaba954 5 лет назад

    I can't believe gue resonant the tonewood on these are!!! They are fabulous

  • @jeffreyradick6486
    @jeffreyradick6486 7 лет назад

    With heavier gauge strings I would be concerned that the string tension might be too much for the strength of the metal body which would be likely to bend, unless it has been reinforced in some way that a "normal" can would not be.

  • @markmcmullan1976
    @markmcmullan1976 7 лет назад

    Packing quite the punch there Lee. Kudos.

  • @jonnorris419
    @jonnorris419 7 лет назад

    The must have xmas present this year no doubt ! Lovin the slide playing chappers

  • @Lord_Godd
    @Lord_Godd 7 лет назад

    Wow, they actually have great tone.

  • @AidoneusPluto
    @AidoneusPluto 6 лет назад +2

    Rob: *is shredding Jimi on an oil can*
    Lee: *BoBBiNg hIs HeAD bAck aNd FoRTh whIlE onLY plAyIng TWo StRiNgS*
    Yes, this is the music I signed up for

  • @GuitardedAndBroke
    @GuitardedAndBroke 7 лет назад +2

    HA, I love the movie Trains, Plains and Automobiles!!

  • @reddevil211287
    @reddevil211287 3 года назад

    That was a filthy jam wow these guys are amazing…you guys should tour as a dirty blues duo!!

  • @moltpong
    @moltpong 7 лет назад

    I literally love the tones of these lol

  • @benstephenson8835
    @benstephenson8835 7 лет назад

    I'd actually buy one of these, but only with a maple neck, which somehow don't exist on any site I've looked at. Even Andertons don't stock the maple fretboard ones.

  • @eevans545
    @eevans545 5 лет назад +1

    3:15 "hard to find beaten up oil cans that you can actually use."
    American: "I've got fifteen in my backyard."

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev 7 лет назад

    Easy relic job! Come on Chappers, it has no fretboard radius just like a Vigier. Should be tapping like Bumblefoot!!

  • @ChaseYamsPage
    @ChaseYamsPage 7 лет назад

    Bohemian's are sick guitars. I personally own one myself, and I definitely really dig the resonant sound that it makes. Pretty interesting take on a hollowbody.

  • @iforget5307
    @iforget5307 7 лет назад

    Wow, nobody on set noticed that standard Uku tuning is just like a guitar with a capo on the 5th fret and the low string (D string on a guitar) tuned up an octave ?! once I figured that out I was djenting like a mad man on my uku

  • @nolanr7679
    @nolanr7679 6 лет назад

    They sound good too

  • @georgieboy1536
    @georgieboy1536 7 лет назад +39

    Wheres all the tonewood haters now...

    • @youreallygotmenow4855
      @youreallygotmenow4855 7 лет назад +4

      Georgie boy Exactly!
      The P90 in that oil can doesn't sound like it would on a Gibson at all!
      If anything, this reinforces the fact that the materials used to build the instrument do affect its tone.

    • @teemulahtonen5448
      @teemulahtonen5448 7 лет назад +2

      Youreallygotmenow ! Well duh, it's got a maple neck, of course it won't sound like a Gibson /s

    • @youreallygotmenow4855
      @youreallygotmenow4855 7 лет назад +3

      The different tone is not only due to the maple neck, mate.
      It's the overall build of the instrument that affects its tone, I'll give you an example: the oil can guitar that Rob plays in the video's got a distinctive 'metallic' sound to it that may well be caused by the sound box (or sounding box as some call it) of the oil can itself.
      The smaller body, the shorter neck, the single P90, the set-up of the guitar: all these things contribute to its peculiar sound.

    • @koenschaper8821
      @koenschaper8821 7 лет назад +3

      Georgie boy I think we found the tonewood hater

    • @teemulahtonen5448
      @teemulahtonen5448 7 лет назад +3

      Youreallygotmenow ! I was trying to make fun of the tonewood-thing but apparently sarcasm doesn't get through to some people even when marked as such

  • @Rookie_Bobby240
    @Rookie_Bobby240 7 лет назад

    Look up Morgan Garage Guitars,they specialize in their cigar box guitars but they have a few oil cans

  • @anthonypiety9468
    @anthonypiety9468 7 лет назад

    Great show love you guys my favorite show on you tube can't wait for next show

  • @jetblack7044
    @jetblack7044 7 лет назад

    it looks cool though...
    a blackstar fly , one of these , cigerattes and whiskey

  • @GrumpyTy34er
    @GrumpyTy34er Год назад

    Do a video on non-standard signature guitars. Maybe you, Pete, and Rabea go around and grab some weird signatures (Bo Diddly, Zakk Wylde, etc)

  • @jarkkokokko9965
    @jarkkokokko9965 6 лет назад

    7:06 Planes, Trains and Automobiles 😂👌🏼👍🏼

  • @GrumpyTy34er
    @GrumpyTy34er 2 года назад

    I think the Christmas video this year or next year whenever should be guitar players playing non guitars. For example, mandolins, ukuleles, and maybe even a base. I think it'd be funny to see them jam

  • @Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist
    @Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist 7 лет назад

    I'm sorry, but If I had one of these, I'd rock it on stage. With some locking tuners and some standard gauge strings, these will be great

  • @sebastianbaranski8344
    @sebastianbaranski8344 7 лет назад

    Look at Samantha Fish, she`s playing them a lot. Great guitar player, great looking and great singer.

  • @audunburns6270
    @audunburns6270 7 лет назад

    Sometimes I wish you would release some of the tunes you two come up with while jamming, group them up by style/genre and create little albums out of them. I would download them

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 7 лет назад

    Cool guitars! I know a guy who builds stand up basses out of interesting material - his most famous is a Stanley Cup Bass, but he also builds a gas tank upright bass. He also invented the angle grinder instrument. I'm afraid the basses would cost much more than 240 pounds, since they're hand made by Shane Chisholm.

  • @charliefoxtrotthe3rd335
    @charliefoxtrotthe3rd335 7 лет назад +1

    i needed this laugh. The Miku at the end was spot on. *SIGH* now I can go to work...

  • @mogmason6920
    @mogmason6920 7 лет назад

    15:25 had me in stitches!!!

  • @colebowman2833
    @colebowman2833 7 лет назад

    Thing is, cigar box and oil can guitars should be homemade and there are some great builders all over the world. Especially here in the states. They are instruments, not novelty items but, those ones probably are novelty. It's an art form whether folks respect it or not. I never built one but I know someone who does and my cousin is trying but he usually doesn't finish his projects and it's a shame. He likes to make all kinds of things, not just cigar boxes. I like woodwork and would love to build a regular wood body guitar and get good at it but I'm a musician and i dont think I would have the time and i dont have all the tools I would need right now but someday.. I'm gonna build a regular guitar of some type with p-90's in it!

  • @ChannelGilly
    @ChannelGilly 7 лет назад

    Great video , Boys .Keep up the interesting stuff !