Former NFL Scout's Read On Bears Draft Situation | The Chicago Bears Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024
- The Chicago Bears Podcast with Pat The Designer and Former Bears Fullback Jason McKie is joined by a special guest, Greg, who brings over three decades of experience working in the NFL.
🏈 Greg shares his belief that the Bears will trade the top pick and stick with Justin Fields, setting the stage for an insightful discussion. The trio delves into the various Offensive Coordinator candidates for the Bears and dissects the critical decisions facing GM Ryan Poles with the 1st overall pick in the draft or sticking with Fields.
🤔 Greg, using his scouting expertise, breaks down the differences between Fields and Caleb Williams, providing valuable insights. They discuss the departure of Tyler Scott and how he didn't fit the Bears' scheme. Pat, J Mack, and Greg round out the episode with a preview of the upcoming NFL Divisional Round games.
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Thomas Jones was a beast, even tho we haven't had a Championship in a loooooong time I've enjoyed watching a lot of the BEARS bluechip players thru the years...
Greg is a great resource
Great show... Whoever this Scout is is Spot on. He gets it.
This scout was with the Bears for years and years... And then you look at their record at finding QBs... He liked Grossman, didn't like CJ Stroud...
He is a former Bears scout, he was a top scout if I can remember correctly.
@brenosulzbacher Maybe NFL teams should hire u since majority of scouts had Young as best QB in draft
@@calabis i'm no scout. But if I was, I would never brag about that, especially in a QB conversation when the team that had me never found a FQB
@brenosulzbacher He can brag though, all you can go is off tape and workouts...the situation u land in, is far greater. Stroud would be shit in Bears uniform.
He has one of best LT in league, with injuries oline is better than ours. He has 2 # 2 WRs, with one entering the 1 realm...a coach who plays to his strengths and creates mismatches....none of that has ever been present for Fields...he has Moore now and Kmet is developing with Fields
This is one of my favorite podcast episodes on any utube shows that I have seen this year.
GREAT JOB!!!!!
Justin really had only one year as a starter. Explain 1st year as a rookie with Matt Nagy enough said, 2nd year THE CHICAGO BEARS TANNNKED for the number 1 pick people you can't count that year 3rd year the Bears went 7-10 and also he was injured for 4 games but with the wrong offense coordinator that's why people don't won't to give up on Justin Fields.
Johnson seems to be the best hire at OC I like Cohen the best because he has always a teacher and that is what the Bears need.
I think the Bears (this season) won those 7 games in spite of Getsy.
Josh Dobbs started the same amount of games as Fields this year. He threw for only 100 yards less than Fields. If Fields is the guy, he should be way ahead of Dobbs. Fields is a quality back up with starter potential after 3 season. Time to move on
@@mikefromouAre you suggestion the Dobbs and Fields are on the same level? So you much be talking about production. If that’s the case we have to look at all the factors.
Yeah that’s not how that works, OP. He has been a starter for 2.5 years. Period. Everyone’s path in the NFL is different. Make all the excuses you want. Fields is who is at this moment and you can’t change the past to change who is is as a QB today. Stop it.
I’ve watched their films side by side years 1-3 in college. Williams and Fields are so similar it’s ridiculous. They way they scramble, they way they hold the ball too long, the big arm, plays on the run…. Fields is way bigger and a little faster. Williams seems to have a slightly better arm. Resetting the clock isn’t going to solve anything. I’d be down for drafting a QB to sit behind Fields for at least a year. We have the cap space and the picks to do it if we aren’t going to go all in on Fields and build the best roster we can. We could build a hell of a Roster if we trade that pic down. 3-5 starters out of one draft to rebuild a roster with limited talent would be better than any rookie QB can provide at this point in the Bears rebuilding for a strong roster.
And williams is waaaaay more accurate, is used to not playing with 1st round picks across the board, & isn’t scared to throw the ball into tight windows. Fields is the 4th best QB in the division…and just isn’t a franchise QB. Don’t be afraid to chase great & settle for “I like his intangibles.” Flashes aren’t as helpful to an offense as consistentcy.
Fields had countless 1st and 2nd round picks around him at receiver and o line.
Williams has had one.
The Bears roster is further along than most ppl think. Look at what CJ Stroud has done for the Texans. I would argue that the Bears roster is better than the Texans
@@lloydchristmas5698 ruclips.net/video/5JO1PsupF_U/видео.html
@@mattb6430 oh but Williams fans say its the QB nothing else matters lol.
👍 Excellent work here & RE to Kaplin's simplistic take on QB choice. Two banger episodes!!
Gabriel was awesome man. Best show ever!!! Did he read my comments?!?!? 😂😂😂 Did He? Cause he was saying everything i have been 💯💯💯
The media has been harder on Fields than the fans! Most of the "trade him" cries are coming from the media! I wish we could trad them!
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I'm not a Fields advocate at all. His playmaking ability is through the roof, but I don't think his ceiling as a passer is much higher than it's at right now. I'm ok with drafting a new qb or with keeping Fields and getting a haul for the number one.
With that said, here's the important thing to remember when it comes to the sport's media. The sport's media's job isn't to help the Bears do the right thing. It's not their job to make sure they win. It's not even their job to be right.
The only job the sports media has is to generate and sustain interest and engagement. If you remember that, then you'll always know to take their perspectives with a grain of salt.
I'm with Trade him 😂. He holds that ball way too long. JF1 will be the guy that gets coaches fired
Well they hired Waldron and the Shanahan/McVay system doesn't strike me as one that is very Fields friendly. Might point to drafting a new QB.@@moekrinkle5771
I hope Poles keeps JF1 and trade the pick. JF1 has progressed even with Getsy as OC and that’s immaculate within its own.
I hope not. Bears are in a unique opportunity and are not going to be picking #1 for a while. Take Caleb now.
It’s not Caleb vs Justin cause obviously teams will take caleb, it’s caleb vs the other teams trade packages for him
Antonio, please stop. Ain't nothing about fields immaculate. He's bottom tier quality. And that's why He'll get traded.
getsy was jordan love's qb coach (whoops)
@@gordonpainter8237 LOL opinions are much like butt holes...... "everyone has one"
@@ranchthetrapper8880 take the trade package, we do not need a whinner at QB.
I absolutely love listening to Greg Gabriel talk football 🏈!
We need to solidify both sides of the trenches. We NEED a center in the draft.
What happens to the second string quarterback.
@@williamjoyce7168 He stays prepared to come in when needed.
USC alum Chicago native . I go to usc games regularly Caleb has a lot of Zach Wilson vibes… Can make Great plays but is inconsistent not that athletic and arm is good but not great as they hype him. He is not as good as Trevor Lawerence coming out by a good margin . Do what that as you will…
17:00 I told you that was the pick that fucked this franchise. Greg wasnt banging the table for Rodgers when that went down but he knows that Justin Fields is the guy.
A trade with the commanders could net#2, #34,2024 first rounder, then the patriots will give up #3,#35, 2024 first or second, draft MHJ, Joe Alt, have 2 second rounders, 2 third rounders(one via Ian Cunningham) that is just like the cowboys great train robbery. That’s just too much to give up for Caleb, who could be a Ryan Leaf. Caleb wasn’t liked in the locker room, pouted when he played top 25 teams and couldn’t dominate. Keyshawn Johnson is a SC man who stood on the sidelines with SC, and he said “don’t take Caleb”. It’s a wrap, take the big haul and win a few super bowls
Caleb is/was loved in the locker room and he played great against top 25.
Build the team. One player does not win championships.
I agree 💯 with Gabes. JF1 for prez!
My belief on retaining Flus has everything to do with keeping the locker room together through everything that happened during the season. A coach leaving under mysteries circumstances, another due to HR violations, then the LONG losing streak and maintained the locker room. So I believe that is the sole reason he was retained.
Great show. So many great questions asked and so many great points!
It is noted that Greg is the only ex-Bears scout or employee who appear qualified to comment.
Cedrick Benson went No 4, Aaron Rodgers went to the Packers that draft. 😪 We needed a QB...bad. Drafted a RB
Greg was convicted on Rex grossman
One thing for sure if the media that never played the game, say to pick someone, they are always wrong. That never fails! I’m riding with Poles no matter What! Build the team and anyone can do well under center! Get the picks and if we need to make a change Draft Arch Manning, now That’s a generational Talent! What’s the rush everyone wants the things that make us a 1 and done year. Poles want
To make us good for decades, “will somebody get this man a Gun?” (JWick) he’ll have a howitzer after this year, just stay away from the one year wonder, keep building through the Draft Ryan. Greater later!
Manning can't beat out ewers
I'm with you on the patience mindset for long term greatness and Poles, but Arch Manning isn't that good. He has the amazing last name, but the top shelf talent hasn't shown up yet.
@@drtruth4282 is that why no one believed in brady? Just saying
True indeed it's a scam Caleb Williams is way to small to be what they projecting him to be
@@drtruth4282 that’s what they said about his brother Eli, and all he did was beat the greatest team in history 2X! I’ll take that any day! IJS
MHJr. is the answer at receiver.
It doesn't matter what any of us think it ultimately comes down to Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles point blank. Me myself i trust Poles to make the right decision whether it be Caleb Williams or Justin Fields. But i will say this the coaches need to be more accountable and last season i don't think they were. You can't put all this on Justin. We blew three games while up double digits because of play calling. You have to keep your foot on the gas in this league to win.
Great interview and insights.
As for the notion of a vote of confidence for JF1, I would pay more attention to what Poles does than what he says. The only real vote of confidence he could have given Fields was picking up his 5th year option and he kicked that can down the road.
Kieq said it too…… current players say JF1 is a “handful” to keep it respectable like. I’ll take their word that our guy can be a great one (1).
Unless you're that GB player that said after the last game of the season that as long as you force JF to stay in the pocket and play QB, the Bears are easy to defend.
They talking about tackling him not his passing
@@codyddd3634 Quay Walker on Justin Fields: "Whenever we can keep him in the pocket and allow him just to play quarterback and not allow him to run, we got a real, real good chance of winning the game."
Cant pass with only 1 wr 2 if u count kmet an a oline that cant hold up
@Josh-ce8ol even when he gets protection, he holds the ball for 45 seconds. At some point, franchise qbs make things happen no matter the situation
Good piece! Greg Gabrial is a brilliant football mind. I hope he's wrong about Caleb Williams tho. But, he's usually on point.
Gabriel is full of shit. Poles will draft Caleb. Gabriel always acts like he knows it all.
@@3point5houston23Greg stated that AFTER the Notre Dame game, Caleb didn't really recover and that's EXACTLY what happened. So how is he full of shit?
After the Notre Dame game, Caleb Williams QB rating dropped by 50 points. Also 4 of his worst 5 games of the entire season were in the 5 games following the ND game. That's giving Caleb a huge gift of completely ignoring the ND game in those numbers. Also, USC went 1-4 in those games, while their only win was by 1 point.
So, what Gabriel stated about Caleb is correct. If you have a counter argument, make it.
@@drtruth4282 Gabriel was the same idiot who said Deshone Kizer was the best QB in his class and will be a great NFL QB.
@@BarbellsandBBQ He did. Within the context of this video, his statements were correct. Any analyst, GM, or director of scouting has big misses and Gabriel is no exception.
@@BarbellsandBBQthat idiot also said Aaron Donald would be a bust became he has short arms.
If you look at the tape of Fields and Williams, 1st thur the 3rd years Fields does everything that Williams did and Fields arm looked stronger. In my opinion, it would be a big mistake to get rid of Fields.
Great podcast! You guys are a great combination!!!
people who have a clue understand how much Getsy hindered the team. Not sure how eberflus doesn't take some heat for doing shit about it.
On the media day when they spoke Poles an Fluss poles said that it was Fluss that let him go.. Go check an the Bears don’t fire people mid season 💯🤷🏽♂️ but u right
Getsy ruined everyone.
Like Pat mentioned a 1000 Times i trust Poles if he draft that 13:36 13:36 Whiner or keep JF 1 and i lost alot of Respect for Kap for belittering Fans
I did, too. Kap and J hood are corny.
Great show.
The Bears have had 55 starting QBs in the modern era. That is a starting QB every 1.05 seasons, it's pretty telling how the Bears treat their QBs. In those 58 seasons the Bears had 26 winning seasons, maybe there's a correlation??? We have to stop looking at the greener grass on the other side and get behind the QB we already have.
I'm stealing this... Absolutely spot on
Great episode! I've felt that Poles would be the guy making the OC and DC hires (especially the OC) particularly because of Eberflus' failures in hiring the last OC and DC.
But the point about HCs having a narrow perspective when it comes to selecting guys they've been exposed to (like Allan Williams) as opposed to a GM whose eyes and ears are all over the league.
The GM would know of more and maybe better coordinator candidates. Great point!
Mckie needs to give us an evaluation of our current Full back and what does think of bringing in more of a Matt Forte 🤔 style back, I believe it could be crucial for Fields and the offense
Mitch couldn’t stand underneath the pressure from the media. Requested to have all the tv turn off. JF1 never showed no emotion until he told the press “thank y’all the media for making his job harder.”. Caleb cried in his mom arms after a loss, only showed his love for the game. Him skipping after the game is something else. Standing ten toes down and chest out in front of the media after a loss show what kind of leader you are.
Mitch has a higher career high for passing touchdowns in a season than Justin Fields. The difference in treatment is the difference in skin color.
Do not forget that Williams left his team stranded in the bowl game because he wanted to prepare for the NFL draft, then wait until recently to declare for the draft. Meanwhile, his back up played the entire bowl game and seriously out performed Williams at any part of the season. Williams back up is better than he is.
@@MeetTheSLAYER Are you talking about that meaningless bowl game? When you’re going to be the #1 pick, why risk your health? Plus USC was able to play their QB for next year so it’s a win win situation for Caleb and for USC that the backup got his opportunity to play. You’re just a delusional JF1 jock sniffer that exaggerates everything Caleb has done.
@@AntonioGonzales-fh8oc True. Mitch at less had A.Rod, Miller, Cohan and Jordan Howard. JF1 got dealt a bad hand from the start. Even tho at times it was his fault he didn’t have the right support team last season. He never cried about, just kept playing ball
@@MeetTheSLAYER Lincoln Riley always has a friendly QB system where every he coached
MHJ IS WHAT WE NEED! THIS WOULD BE THE BEST WR DUO IN BEARS FRANCHISE! DRAFT A HIGH QUALITY LT, GUARD! A lot of pressure came up the middle! Then Build up the offense and DB, Safety, RB, DT
I agree: I'd keep Justin Fields, Justin is better than all of those Quarterbacks coming out of College and had a bettef College Career than all incoming College Quarterbacks.
According to almost all scouts CW is much more instinctive and faster processor than JF.
Watch the 1985 NFC Championship game .McMahon while under center never turned his back to the Oline or receivers on a pass play. He backed up quickly, watching his recievers and lineman blocking, which gave him several more seconds to view the field .Could this help Justin ?
2021 nfl draft
#1 Trevor Lawrence - best qb prospect since Elway, Luck
#2 Zach Wilson - Mahomes 2.0
#3 Trey Lance - Josh Allen 2.0
#11 Justin Fields
#15 Mac Jones
in every draft qbs are sprinkled with magic fairy dust and proclaimed as generational. 2021 was supposed to be the best qb draft in a decades, don't believe the draft hype and build the team. If the bears believe they need a backup plan use a day 2,3 pick to draft a qb
I would take a JJ McCarthy Penix Ewers Bo Nix Rattler Mid Rds. Kinda like Eagles did when they had a Good QB prospect in Wentz, but drafted their now really good QB Hurts in the Middle Rounds.
They do that they set themselves for years to come!
Yeah I been going back and forth; keep JF1 and get a bounty of picks, or roll the dice and dare to be great and that all hinges on how good Caleb Williams is and we don't know. I've done a hundred of these draft sims and tried to keep them as realistic as possible, if you trade out of that pick you can pick up maybe a couple of 2nd rounders, as well as swapping with a Teams first pick, and a 1st rounder next year. If you trade out of # 1, you can get one of the top 3 receivers, and either a LT or an Edge rusher, and pick up one of the top 2 or 3 Safeties, and one of the top 2 centers, probably one of the top 10 RB's and a Tight end. If you take Williams, you have that pick and one other at 9, no one is trading to that spot, you have no 2nd round pick (unless you can get one for JF), there will be no edge worth having, your not getting one of the top centers, your not getting one of the top Safeties, your not getting a running back at all (we've had injuries and a NFL RB career average is 4 years we need another). Choice is build to win now with a lot of other pieces keeping JF1, or take the risk with Williams, which if it pans out you compete every year for a decade. Which choice do you make? Tough decision.
I'm loving all of Greg Gabriel's inside info, but didn't he say he's not talking BEARS anymore for a while?! lol Glad he changed his mind!
He is also the one who said in week 2 or 3 on barroom network that he was done with fields and wanted to bench him back then but now he changed his tune hmmmm somebody got in his ear it seems
Fields checks all of Gabriels boxes for sure
Trade back and stick with Justin. They call caleb the next Mahomes? Well dont forget 80% of NFL teams rated Mitch trubisky over Mahomes and Watson. You arm chair GMs are doing it again with Caleb.
GREG WAS OUT ON JF AFTER THE TAMPA BAY GAME NOW HES CHEERING FOR HIM TO STAY...HE A FIELDS FAN NOW...A REAL BEARS FAN..🐻👎
No, no, just no. You can’t be a great team with an inaccurate & indecisive QB at the helm. They’ll stay 3rd/4th in the division yr in yr out. 🤦🏻♂️
@@lloydchristmas5698you don't know football
@lloydchristmas5698 what they are saying is 100% facts
Williams shouldn't even be an option! He's said he won't come here! Not to mention he's the next Johnny manziel
good show
Justin should be run exclusively from play-action. He'd be a killer.
Yeah I don't know why they didn't stick with that
You can’t knock a young adult for being mad and upset about losing a big game. I’d rather have that then someone who doesn’t care
He not built for Chicago
@@jsanders9975facts. Justin has had to put up with BS his entire career in Chicago. Caleb will crumble under this pressure, Fields is built for it
Caleb coming to chicago in the state of rebuilding would probably kill himself, especially acting the way he did after the one loss..
With some much unwarranted hate for Caleb , are gonna boo him if he succeeds in Chicago ? You justinsexuals are pathetic and hilarious at the same time
If the bears turn away that big haul for Caleb, you’ll be here crying next year this time when the bears are 4-13. Detroit didn’t jump ship after they went 8-9 after a 3-14 season. The Lions had 2 high first round picks last year too. The Lions could have very well traded those 2 picks for Stroud.
True indeed take the haul and make this easier for your team
If the lions had the first pick, they’d take Caleb. We won more than 4 games with one of the worst passer in the league. So no we will not be back “crying” when Caleb shows more in his rookie year than JF1 has his entire career
Kap made himself look shallow as fk. Kap was being hypocritical. Bears fans know Justin has had inconsistent play callling, few weapons, (until DJ), no protection from o line. No decent center. New play caller who never called plays in nfl. Build the team around Justin, and use the #1 pick to build faster. If they get Caleb, it will be slower and waiting 2 or 3 years. CJ stroud will get knocked out this weekend as will Jordan love. Love is not a rookie. He’s been there 4 years.
I am SLOWLY coming around about Caleb. I admit I’m worried because I’ve heard this before, especially about Mitch and Cutler and others. But I did closely look at the tape and the arm strength pops and the funky arm angles remind me of Cutler. He reminds me a lot of Cutler. Maybe a better overall athlete, hope he has a bigger heart. I can certainly see that the powers that be have sent down orders to the sales floor to SELL, SELL, SELL!! I understand it, maybe he is generational, if Justin excels somewhere, for your sake, that is the sake of the talking heads, he’d better be!!
Really interesting read. Im not even a Chicago Sports fan. Im a Raider fan but I find what your front office is doing to be fascinating! Weve done things like this on message boards since the late 90s! You guys are the first time ive seen this possibly being implemented
I'll say right now. Id trade the pick. 3 first rounders is just a start and i wouldnt turn that down! Im not sure how good your scouting department is, but you guys could build something very special if you pick the right guys.
Ive heard rumors about my Raiders trading up for our qb. I dont know if its true or how likely it is. I will say though, if we move up for that pick I hope its not for Caleb. For my Raiders sake, id take Jayden Daniels. Dude has Lamar Jackson upside and i love his demeanor. For Chicago, I think dumping Fields would be a mistake. If i just had to, though...I'd probably take Drake Maye.
What is it about Caleb Williams people love so much? Im not trying to be a jerk or downplay the value of the pick or anything. I just dont see it. I couldn't care less about his fingernails or stupid videos of him being with his mom. My thing is, wheres the leadership? If im running a football team, I want a guy playing qb for me that is a natural leader. It might be me just making assumptions, but to me he doesnt seem like the kind of guy to admit "I messed up." Maybe Im wrong but to me, he comes off as a "ME" guy
Are the rumors true about him not being excited about coming to Chicago? Would he pull an Elway or Eli? Chicago is a fantastic market. Bears fans, just like Raider fans, are super loyal. Sometimes loyal to a fault. If he thinks hes too good for a franchise like the Bears, I wouldnt even want my team to take him. He should be campaigning for Chicago to take him. After all, he should be grateful its not a Cleveland or Arizona coming to draft him. The Bears are in a really unique spot and Anyone worth his weight in salt would be totally stoked to be a part of what you're doing in Chi. He could be the new face of that organization with one of the founding teams in the league. He should be honored for that chance. If he's not, id just take Marvin Harrison or even Drake Maye. You guys very well may be dodging a true nightmare.
Just my .02 but good luck
Getsy changed his right to left foot forward..his drop back speed was faster with traditional stance under Nagy
Bears fans literally are picking the wrong draft to pass on a QB😂
Caleb’s floor is what’s Justin is producing now.
Thank you!
Yes, JF's setup is slow, and maybe the coaches tried to fix it but JF couldn't or wouldn't. He should have picked it up reviewing his own tapes.
The coaches definitely didn't because the couches said justin is always trying to learn and so on
Poles decision on the OC might be bigger and have more impact on the Bears future than the decision on Fields.
Fields is right now a good enough qb to pass on the position and build a powerhouse. We want to take the North correct? San Fran has been beating GB in the playoffs correct? What does that tell us. We need to build a more physical team to win our division. I would be shocked if Poles doesnt trade the #1 pick
Don't two edges play together? I don't get why you can't spend on two if you need them. Does this mean you wouldn't pay two line backers or corners?
I implore Bears fans to look into Greg's predictions and opinions...he goes as the seasons go. In October he wanted to bring in the Tyson Bagent era to Chicago cus he was out on Justin. Now he is claiming that the Coaches never tried to teach him how to speed up his throwing motion and that a person he talked to with Football Knowledge claimed that teaching to throw with anticipation was easy. CMON MAN...Greg knows line of scrimmage play and does know how to scout n find talent there but I ask you when he was a scout for the Bears if he knew QB play why did we draft Rex Grossman?
Yes lol he said in week 2 or 3 that he was done with fields and that they should bench him the rest of year and Start tyson lol and when ya go to barroom network you won't find that video clip anywhere lol
Yes yes yes
Well, well, well.....the Bustin homer clinging on as usual.
I agree with trading down and take a QB at some point early. The locker room shouldn’t impact anything Poles does to improve the roster.
I agree. They couldn’t play their asses off to win but wanna support Fields. Either he’s the problem or majority of the locker room is the problem.
How can you support a 10-28 QB, the team constantly blows leads & come up short in the fourth, but somehow your opinion matters? No.
A smart GM would get the names of those players (including DJ Moore) and let them know someone gotta take the blame. Both can’t be blameless.
Because most of those players make more than the Offensive Coordinator.
The guy that couldn’t tell that Michael Haynes liked animals more than football is questioning why a player cries after a loss. Do you see your own blind spot on this one?
I understand the frustration of us as Bears fans but the Bears have the QB for starting 2024, the name is Tyson Bagent, I hope Bears trade down from number 1 pick for more picks,trade Justin for more picks and get a late round QB!
Wow, that interesting for them to fix his setup???
"T-I-P" TRUST IN POLES
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Sorry but i don't trust an ex-Bear scout on QB evaluation. He was with the team for YEARS and they never got it right. Wonder why... This dude has a ridiculous track of misses on QBs and is recentley been fighting a lot of people on twitter and beign very arrogant about his takes. People get receipts on his takes and he simply block people. His most recently miss was CJ Stroud.
Coaches shouldn't be in the Draft Room 🤷🏻💯 There i said it. And after losing 2yeara they shouldn't be able to hire staff.
So we should judge Caleb by one bad game but don’t judge Justin after ten total wins in three seasons? Time is up, take Williams.
Y’all really overlooking the fact we fired our chief of contract negations after a 25 year career with the bears but I think he was the problem when it comes to retaining players
Fields first year was exactly how Bryce young’s opportunity’s were and fields did so much more. So we have to have all eyes on Bryce Young and if he doesn’t have a 4k pass yard season and have a winning record they better scout QBs for the 2025 draft
Caleb can make some throws that Justin just cant but is he a leader . You dont need a 4000 yard passer to get to a SB case in point our SB loss to colts ...i just think JF1 needs to work on making the throws when they count and protect the ball . U get someone like MHjr and if Dallas Turner is there with the 9th pick that would be the best
O k, now going back to what greg said about the chase claypool pick and the offensive coaching.. Do you think maybe claypool was right and just too vocal? As you see getsky did not turn out to be what we would have liked. And every wideout except d j moore Regressed or did not develop.
MOONEY INJURY
The Bears never specifically defined Mooney’s foot/ankle injury that required subsequent surgery.
Although Dez Bryant’s career officially ended after an Achilles Rupture, it’s pretty clear that he was never that same player after suffering a Jones fracture (5th metatarsal injury) that required surgery. IF … this is what happened to Mooney, one must consider that his injury was more impactful than everyone, including Darnell, considered. Like Bryant, Mooney may never be the same again?
A lot of factors will decide on whether the Bears trade the pick. If a team will over pay, how many spots are you going to drop down.
Keep justin. Draft MHJ. Draft LT at 9.
It’s really cool. Get Sweat, fix the defense, and bring in the next Matt Leinert. When u replace Mooney and tonyan that will instantly add 4 wins.
Leinert sucked in the NFL !
Darnell Mooney sucked this year because JF1 sucks at distributing the ball. These people blame everyone else before holding the QB accountable. It’s ridiculous and sad at this point! I can’t wait for JF1 to be gone.
LOVE to see Justin stay! I hope they trade pick and get the haul due to the overhype of the "next can't miss QB". Problem I see is Bears looking to build a new stadium which will cost them couple "Billion" to finance it. Bears not going to pay any QB $50 million a year PLUS absorb cost of a new stadium in the next 5 years.
Trade down to #2 and then again to #8 for most picks and players added for 2024 and 2025/26/27
Or trade down to #2 or # 3 only but Grab one of the MHJ/Nabers/Odunze/Coleman WR quartet and a OT or EDGE blue chipper (Alt/Fashanu/Turner/Latu) with our first round picks
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How’s the last 10-15 No. 1 overall QBs doing?
Not too good except one or two of them right?!
Meanwhile Patrick Mahomes (11th overall), Lamar Jackson (drafted 32nd), and Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant aka 262nd) are most of the Playoff Field..
Even the rookie QB phenomenal example ppl use (CJ Stroud) was DRAFTED #2 behind the #1 selected Bryce Young 😅; Joe Burrow didn’t do anything his rookie season and had JAMAR CHASE among other weapons for his sophomore and junior seasons to make that Super Bowl. Matt Stafford had to rescued from a perennial cellar dweller Lions team to win his Super Bowl (just saying)
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I’m not saying we keep or not keep Justin..
I’m saying we draft a QB not top10 and develop him properly (key word: PATIENTLY) behind a fully built-to-last personnel funnel team like GB, Chiefs, Eagles and Niners did
Why would you get a coordinator from a RIVAL, the Bears were dumb for that in itself smh
Imagine having Greg Gabriel on lol
Of course the smartest decision is to trade it
Shout out to Carmel class of 98 in the house
What school does J Mac coach?
Do u know some of the same analysts that kap is following up had Ryan leaf rated ahead of Peyton Manning, because of so called “arm talent”. Do u want to see Caleb crying on his moms shoulder in soldier field? He did it in college, so what do u think he will do against grown men? It wasn’t even cold and Caleb was crying like a baby.
18:20 That lockeroom is 7-10 fck they know about construction of a roster?
It’s sick how criticized fields so unfairly.. trust the rebuild which has gone x100 times better then anyone could of ever expected. Fields had 2 years and they want him out he’s never had a Real OC and had 1 Year with A higher Wr then a WR3 the year prior. From last in in OL and Bottom 3 in defense with the best WR being a WR 3 and the OC being terrible but grown ex nfl players want to downplay how great this 24 year old kid is.. drew breese and Peyton manning had 25+ int their first year..
The Bears should hire Olin Kuretz to be our O line coach period!!!!! I would ❤that!!!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Parcells is the GOAT😅😅
Getting a little cocktail on the amount of commercials...its getting hard to watch!
It’d be criminal to keep a qb going into his 4th season who’s never thrown MORE than 2650 yards and averages ONLY 150 pass yards per game. Go get a kid who had 93 tds in 2 seasons behind the worst interior o-line in the country.
Cedric Benson pick so much worse when you look at who was drafted after him
Drake Maye feels like a cross between Burrows and Josh Allen... If Drake isn't the #1 then trade it away to the Commanders who want their home town kid. Then take Harrison Jr.
Draft Caleb and keep Fields, and let's see who wins the job.
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Caleb struggled cause he was carrying that team on his own. Somehow Caleb should have done it alone but Fields needs all this help? Bears fans and analysts make no sense.
The pick is Caleb. He is far superior as a passer and it’s not even close. Greg wouldn’t know what a good QB is. I’m shocked people in Chicago are so obsessed with being mediocre