Honestly... If Callaghan had snapped at Hiro saying "that was his mistake" only for a look of grief to go across his face, showing he isn't just heartless, before going right back to being angry and hateful, it would actually work. Because now instead of saying that as a sign of apathy towards Tadashi, he's saying it as form of denial.
I would say have the pause of grief be before he says it, doubling down on his path. But the introspection is necessary for that line to work. It's amazing how important small details can be.
I hate the fact that Callaghan just stole Hiro's invention for his revenge. Like... what did he do before Hiro came to the college? Did he plan anything? Or nothing? Why did he use other people's inventions for HIS revenge? Isn't he a world-renowned scientist? Why doesn't he invent his own creation to fulfill his revenge? Did he come up with this revenge plan after he met Hiro? Or before? When did the accident happen and when exactly did he decide to carry out his evil plan? And as Aldone mentioned, his personality completely changed from a caring good professor to a heartless evil revenger. Callaghan's story arc is so sloppy and unexecuted, in my opinion.
It could be that he thought too hard about how to get revenge that he never commit to an idea or get even get one. Then here comes Hiro at the convention basically giving him a good solution. Because despite all our good ideas, we might not think it is good enough to use or think that it won't work so we give up on it.
Just imagine if the movie went like this: They find out Callaghan is the villain and instead of delivering that AWFUL line about Tadashi he said: "It's all HIS fault, and now I've lost 2 sons because of his mistakes!" Or something like that. By that making the other rich guy the main villain who started the fire to steal the bots but it ended bad so he had to run out of there instead, with Callaghan in the building protecting himself with the bots, and of course Tadashi dying trying to rescue him, so then we have Callaghan blind by rage doing ANYTHING to destroy the other dude life, the rich guy who has ruined 2 people life thus making him a second villain and Hiro trying to stop Callaghan from becoming a murderer.
It would've made Callaghan sympathetic even. You can feel bad for what he's feeling and understand why but you can still feel absolutely revolted by his plan.
That twist made me angry. What little I was enjoying about the movie was ruined by the reveal of Zurg. It’s stupid. It breaks canon. It makes no goddamn sense. And it ruins Buzz as a character.
I just feel the reveal of Callaghan as Yokai was kind of lame. I do like the message and antithesis between him and Hiro about how to handle grief. But it also makes no sense as to why he’s trying to kill his students and Hiro when they have done nothing to deserve it. It serves no purpose to his goal to kill them. And given how Tadashi was his favorite student, it makes no sense as to why he’d just be so apathetic to his death. I fully get the stuff with Krei but everything else is just kind of weird. It feels like two different characters. I don’t think anyone is a worse twist villain than Hans but I don’t really like this guy overall either.
In the show, he apologizes to Hiro about Tadashi's death, and it was always weird to me that THAT was what Hiro was mad about, not the fact that he tried to kill BH6. I guess it was supposed to be Yokai lashing out at anyone in his way or trying to kill Hiro so no one knew how the microbots worked, but I do wish we got more time seeing his POV.
I think another problem is there's a bit of a mixed message when you think about how if Robert hadn't done his whole revenge plan he may have never gotten his daughter back so ultimately in a weird way he was rewarded for his crimes. the guy's in prison but I'm assuming that isn't as bad as the grief he had when he thought his daughter was dead so yeah bit weird I still feel to this day Kray should have been the one who got sucked into the portal in the climax which makes it even more noble of Hiro following Tadashi's words and helping him despite his flaws.
@@spencerreid2086 Not sure if this helps, but in the show, he thanked Hiro for rescuing her, as well as apologizing for Tadashi's death--though this in itself is confusing since he didn't start the fire, but the narrative kinda implies he did and a lot of people theorize he did.
@@spencerreid2086 Nowhere in the film or show does it confirm that he did. Hiro at one point states Yokai started the fire, but Yokai never gave any idication that he did. Hiro likely assumed Yokai wanted to steal his microbots and used the fire as a distraction. In the flashback, Callaghan said he used the microbots to save himself, but it's never explicitly said he started the fire. Weird how Hiro brings up the idea that the fire was started deliberately, but it's never followed up on if it was an accident or not. But make no mistake, Callaghan did endanger his students (I'd go as far as saying he tried to kill them) on several ocassions. The fire just wasn't one of those confirmed situations.
Literally a single line change would've saved Callahan's whole character and made him a more believable villain - changing "That was his mistake!" to be something like "And that's another child I've lost because of HIM!" Would've perfectly illustrated Callahan's grief and obsession, reaffirmed that he still deeply cared about and was still mourning Tadashi's death, and made his actions explainable with the flawed logic you'd EXPECT a villain like him to have. It works out perfectly with what they already wanted to illustrate his grief as - destroy the person he believed is responsible for not only the death of his daughter, but also took away the person he bonded with as a surrogate son. This movie was almost great, but fell completely on its face because of that one line.
Bh6 also had such an interesting world of San Fran Tokyo and totally wasted it too. I would have loved to see more on how this world works Feels so similar to marvel's spider man show of smart people in one area causing all the damage.
The one Disney twist villain I've never understood the hate for is Bellwether from Zootopia. That film is a neo-noir mystery film, so not knowing who the culprit is is essentially a must. Also, there are quite a few hints of her true nature that, although easy to miss, become far more noticeable the second time around.
I don't think people hate her for being a twist villain, but rather a twist villain with little to no clues. Yeah, I don't think there are noticeable clues that she's the villains, if there are clues at all, even on a second watch
@@yay29823 As an avid fan of murder mysteries, I agree with you that the twist wasn't handled nearly as well as it could have been. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that there weren't any clues for the viewer to pick up on. - Bellwether repeatedly talks about how all of the 'little guys need to stick together', constantly trying to separate animals such as herself and Judy from those she deems inferior. At first it appears as though she's literally talking about small, overlooked animals, but upon the revelation that she's the mastermind behind the conspiracy to turn predators savage, her words take on a more sinister meaning. Bellwether's desire for all the 'unappreciated little guys' to unite against a common enemy is why she's particularly supportive of a random little farm rabbit becoming the newest recruit of the ZPD; a rabbit is the perfect animal to convince the rest of Zootopia that prey species need no longer be afraid of 'backwards predators'. Bellwether's prejudice is hinted at early on as her first 'little guys' remark is within the first ten minutes of the film, being only her second full line of dialogue. Also, the same scene of Judy's graduation ends with Bellwether quickly running past Lionheart after he pushes in front of her so that her face can be seen in the photos being taken of the event. This infers a deep-seated desire to be recognised and respected by others, even when she's supposed to be donning her meek, humble facade. - Bellwether keeps managing to show up at the most convenient of times. Not only does she pass by Chief Bogo's office just in time to stop the one officer integral to her plans from being fired, she also just so happens to set up the rainforest surveillance system to the exact time that Mr Manchas is captured by the wolves, therefore allowing Judy to easily discover the lab and expose the conspiracy to the general public. - Bellwether's name is significant as a 'bellwether' is a sheep that leads the rest of a flock. Once it's revealed that the predators are being turned savage by a group of conspiratorial rams, her name becomes a hint of her being the mammal they work for. Also, sheep have a habit of popping up during the most important parts of the film. For example, just before Duke Weaselton steals the night howlers from the florist, two rams are seen eyeing up the place and whispering to each other. Nick's character is introduced by nearling being run over by a ram who clearly harbors prejudicial views against his kind. It's also a ram reporter who asks Judy during the press conference to confirm that it's only predators who are going savage, and we even see a young ewe being bullied by Gideon the fox at the very beginning of the film, making sheep the first on-screen victims of the 'savage instincts' of modern-day predator species. - Nick's backstory explores the idea of spiteful prey species being prejudiced towards predators. Combine that with Bellwether being a diminutive ewe who is frequently and publicly mistreated by Lionheart, and her unyielding support for Judy over seemingly every other ZPD officer becomes slightly suspicious the more you look at it. For example, despite Judy making some dangerously broad statements during the press conference that leave every other citizen of Zootopia scared, confused or angry, Bellwether is the one to reassure her by telling her that 'she did fine'. Seems like a good example of her being a supportive friend at first, but in hindsight was because Judy had just done exactly what Bellwether wanted her to do. There's more, but I think you get the point. Again, I do agree with you that the reveal wasn't executed especially well, and I'm certainly not claiming that it was obvious as some of these are subtle to the point of potentially being unintentional. However, I don't think it fair to say that there are no clues for the audience to spot, even during a second viewing.
@@yay29823 Thank you, but you're giving me too much credit. I assure you that some of these are just me grasping at straws as I try to overanalyse a Disney film about talking animals.
Yeah, a twist villain is absolutely necessary for a mystery film. But honestly I think the hate comes from a few places 1. She was yet another twist villain after a couple of other ones. Even though it’s justified in this case, it was still an annoying trend. This along with comparisons to Disney’s classic villains, kinda increased the distaste towards her 2. Her overall lack of presence in the film kinda doesn’t give a lot of impact to the twist. It was like “Oh. Right. Her. OK.” It didn’t really feel like a betrayal, or really much of anything. 3. Her design is just not intimidating or memorable. Which is definitely the point, mind you, she was supposed to be unexpected. But all the same, after the mask dropped… it was kinda hard to take her seriously as a threat.
I mustache twisting evil CEO is cliché. The idea behind the villain isn't bad just the execution. If he showed regret for Tadashi dying it would have been better
Doc Ock: What did you say to a kid after losing his brother in the fire ? Oh yes, you just told him... that was his mistake. Octavius killed Callaghan by snapping his neck with one of his tentacles, and dropping his body to the ground. Doc Ock: Well, you were always been a mistake.
I have to say the best twist villain that has come out in recent years is the twist villain in Invincible. They expose this character is the villain at the end of the first episode and the characters figure it out at the season one finale. Which I like they expose the twist for the audience at the end of episode 1 so we can figure out is motive while we wait on pins and needles how the rest of the characters will figure it out as well as what the villain will do since we know they are evil and everyone else believes they are a hero
I have an enhanced idea for the story. Tadashi is in a relationship with Abigail Callaghan, the daughter of Robert Callaghan. We can showcase their love and connection through scenes of pictures and videos, portraying them as a devoted couple. Abigail and Tadashi, being prominent scientists, decide to enhance Baymax to provide love and care for each other. This showcases their dedication and unique bond. Over the years, Tadashi becomes involved with Alistair Krei's work and his company. However, Tadashi develops a sense of distrust towards Alistair Krei. We can show Alistair attempting to exploit Baymax for financial gain, but Tadashi consistently rejects his offers, leading to tension and anger between them. When Abigail mysteriously disappears, Tadashi experiences immense grief. Baymax becomes Tadashi's source of support, helping him heal and cope with his loss. Tadashi chooses not to disclose the truth about Abigail's disappearance to Hero, and instead, relies on Baymax for comfort. To further the story, we can depict Tadashi appearing in a video where he collaborates with Alistair Krei on a science experiment. However, an accident occurs during the experiment, leaving Tadashi to witness Callaghan's anger towards the scientific community. This heartbreaking event causes Tadashi to break down in tears, intensifying his grief over the loss of Abigail. Tadashi's character can then undergo development as he learns to navigate his grief, much like Hero does after Tadashi's death. With Baymax's support, Tadashi gradually finds healing and ways to move forward. Furthermore, we can introduce an additional twist by adding a trap in the basement. When Tadashi discovers a video in a private room, Callaghan and Tadashi engage in a heated argument regarding the microbots. Callaghan believes that seeking vengeance against Alistair and his company will help Tadashi's grief, but Tadashi rejects the idea. This leads to a loss of respect between them, culminating in Callaghan burning down the place, resulting in Tadashi's tragic death. As the story progresses, Hero realizes that Yokai, the villain, believes his brother is alive and seeks revenge on Abigail. Hero confronts Yokai, initially suspecting Tadashi, but it is revealed that Callaghan is the true mastermind behind the villainous acts. This surprising twist adds depth to Callaghan's character and makes him a more compelling and complex villain.
I think if he had been more of a king candy twist villain it would have been better. He is a really tough hard ass professor who pushes his students but seems to do so to work with the rich guy and give him more inventions to buy for cheap before selling them big. Tadashi doesn't like him but he's not going to leave anyone alone in that burning building. So that all goes the same way. Maybe have the microbots not have worked properly and so he actually survives the fire but with a disability that means that no one suspects him. Maybe then hiro uses baymax and the microbots to try to help him because that's what tadoshi would have wanted but when he gets turned away from even that that's when he goes fully into his grief puts baymax away because he can't stand to look at him but leaves the microbots with Callahan. Callahan then uses the microbots to make himself like a suit thing that can take over for his mobility device whatever it was or missing leg whatever. And then continue the plot exactly as is from there. He is set up to be a not nice guy who doesn't just do a 180 for no real explained reason.
I'll be honest, when I first watched Big Hero 6 I was somehow convinced that Tadashi was gonna be the villian somehow. Of course it makes absolutely no sense but considering this is loosely based off of the Marvel property it seemed to make sense to me at the time.
Re-watching the scene with Callahan revealed to be the villain, makes me look back to Monsters Inc. where it works way better, whereas Big Hero 6 failed. Because note that, even after Waternoose betrayed Mike and Sulley, he still assures that it wasn’t anything personal. He even chastises Randall saying that it never should’ve came to this, blaming him for being forced to banish Sulley, who he saw as a son to him. Seriously, how hard was it for the creators of Big Hero 6 to even see that since they build up a father-son relationship between Callahan and Tadashi, that him saying what he said to Hiro, makes zero sense, since he was clearly on both brothers’ side. If anything, it would’ve made more sense, to say that he didn’t know that Tadashi was coming to save him, or that he did try to save Tadashi but failed, and try to tell Hiro that this isn’t personal.
I had an idea that would've been better: both Callaghan *and* Krei being the villains of the movie, but opposing ones. Krei was the one who started the fire to steal Hiro's nanobots. However, Tadashi rescued Callaghan from the fire at the cost of his life, and Callaghan used the nanobots to survive. However, the accident twisted him. Callaghan has now lost not just his daughter but also one of his students to Krei's greed. He dons the mantle of Yokai for the sake of his revenge like in the story, but it's to avenge both Abigail and Tadeshi's deaths. It'd still make for a great twist villain, but now, it's truer to Callaghan's character. He's still the caring teacher, but he's now one who wants to avenge both his daughter and Tadeshi. It also makes him a dark reflection of Hiro - he too wants to avenge Tadeshi's death. Hiro would be torn between wanting to stop Callaghan from going too far and wanting to help him kill Krei.
I still find it funny how Season 8 of _Ninjago_ managed to write a pretty great twist villain in the form of The Quiet One. Sure, they are a character that starts off with a "nice personality" façade and later revealed to be evil, but that isn't the twist regarding The Quiet One, as it occurs right after the episode where their identity is revealed. The twist is that the Ninja's failures in an incident harkening back to the finale of Season 1 had traumatized them and shattered their perspective, fueling their villainous motives, and it re-contextualizes everything we know about past, present, and future events. Even better is Lloyd's reaction to the twist, further emphasizing this scene! That is how you can write a memorable twist villain!
I still don’t understand why this film of all the animated films released in 2014 the Academy picked this for Best Animated Feature? Either How to Train Your Dragon 2 or The Tale of the Princess Kaguya would’ve been better choices than Big Hero 6.
Seriously, this was rectified in Big Hero 6: The Series, as the worldbuilding is expanded upon, and you get a better villain in Obake! And that’s just in the first season!
He's talked about this before, so this video appears to be more of a continuation in a disjointed saga of videos rather than a restating of points as its own video. To summarize his points from previous videos, Big Hero 6, unlike Frozen, actually had time to develop its plot and flesh out its characters. Frozen originally had Elsa be the unsympathetic, undisputed main villain of the story and it's very clear by looking back on the film how much better it would've been had they kept that plotline. Big Hero 6 on the other hand had plenty of time to develop, wasn't a rushed project, and had little rewrites throughout the script - none of which would have impacted the story in a huge way. Frozen's flop of a twist villain was due to upper management being complete and total assholes, but Big Hero 6's flop was purely due to the writing team's incompetence.
@@davidpotts7116 also I do not hate the idea of Elsa being an irredeemable monster who dies at the end in the same vein as Maleficent and Ursula, but please tell me she would have been totally unique and not too samey. Here’s my ranking of potential Elsa’s depending on the fixes that many would have given, and I am also including the Elsa we got. 1. Fully-fleshed-out, redeemed villain Elsa 2. Irredeemable, totally unique Elsa 3. The Elsa we got 4. Irredeemable, derivative Elsa
@@henrythef1guy768 in 2017 we actually got information about what the story would have actually been like. First off, Elsa was plain and simply a villain. Elsa and Anna also weren't sisters, and Kristoff and Hans were still in the story. There was supposed to be a hidden prophecy about a ruler with a frozen heart bringing destruction to the kingdom, and that Elsa had frozen her own heart so that she could not feel again (because she got stood up at the altar and has been scorned by her people since). Not much is known about what would have happened in between, but Anna, Kristoff, and Hans would have learned why Elsa sealed off her heart and formed a plan to get her to be willing to feel again, at the same time stopping the prophecy from happening and saving everyone in the process. But the original ending would have been amazing. Hans would be the one the prophecy talked about, being ACTUALLY well-hinted at being an unfeeling sociopath who was hungry for power. His original goal was to lead a movement for the dethroning and execution of Elsa, opening him up to take the throne because of his status as royalty in another land and being boosted by the misplaced trust of the people. So while Elsa would be the main villain of the story for most of the way through, Hans would still be a twist villain and it would actually have worked. Apparently he would try to cause an avalanche when they had Elsa cornered and ready to talk, bludgeoning the two other heroes and Elsa to death as they careened down the side of a mountain. They somehow get out of this fatal predicament, and Elsa learns to thaw her heart after being shown that it's okay to not bottle everything up after being hurt, but is still ready to accept all the consequences of her actions because it's also not okay to hurt others in return. Not much else is known about the rewrites because Disney likes to keep their story elements secret for potential use in future films, but from what we do know the original Frozen would have been a much more action-and-emotion-focused film.
I would argue that the twist villain in cars 2 was the one that started the fall of twist villains, but not sure how many have actually watched the movie or blocked their memory of it. Also I swear, right the second I saw Callaghan on screen, I knew he is gonna be the main villain in some way. Though I'm a spiderman fan and that is kind of a common trope there so I guess thats how I figured it out so fast...
To be fair only an idiot runs into a burning building instead of getting professionals to do it. Not sure how the statement is wrong when it really was his own fault for making a bad choice no person would expect him to make during a fire.
Can you please do a video on the problems with the rise of girl bosses as well as the ones that worked? With the rise of the spider-verse franchise, I believe we need to learn more about the rest of Sony Animation films. Lastly, I think it's a great idea to talked about Disney Junior shows like the lion Guard, Jake and the neverland pirates, and Little einsteins.
One of many reasons why Big Hero 6 is one of my most detested Disney films, opposite Rays and the Last Dragon, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and both Frozen films.
Yokai is far from the best Disney villain, but he has one of the best punishments. He isn't going to die, he's going to live to see the only person he cared about reject him and see him as a monster.
Man, Craig as a movie NOT ONLY WOULD FIT BETTER, BUT ALSO WOULD BE DEFINITELY MORE FUN *Imagine a Dangreous Syndrome-Style villain Played by ALAN TUDYK(Like Mr. NOBODY)* Instead of just Whatever Callaghan was suppoused to be(Because Enjoyable he WASN'T)
Big Hero 6: The Series did a good job in its first two Big Bads being effective foils to Hiro and Baymax, and the latter even is a better execution of a twist villain. Just enough hints to clue in the viewer without making it too obvious. A shame about season 3.
I dont know why, but I think it would be more interesting if Yokai was revealed to be a janitor working at the school, some nobody who no one paid much attention to who turned out to be a genius and because of his attitude he was never able to get a job as a scientist.
Your video fell in the moment you reduce the Fun & Memorable MARVEL SUPER-VILLAINS to just the BIG GREY BLOBS of the MCU instead of their Comic & SPECIALLY ANIMATION counterparts I can talk for 1.44 Hours about how MCU RUINED almost all Marvel Super-Villains
They could have at least made the red herring guy have a design that made the reveal plausible. His nose makes his profile so triangular that it would never fit behind that kabuki mask.
I always thought a better way Big Hero 6 could have gone is this, the explosion that "killed" the professors daughter was actually at the showcase where Tadashi died, and we never believe the professor died, thus his lose and Hiro's lose are tied into the same event, also the daughter should actually be killed. Then the movies shows through these two characters the ways of processing grief, Hiro slowly becomes better while Calhan becomes worse, he tries to move on, eventually seeing Hiro as a surrogate child but the relationship with Hiro only reminds him of what he lost, driving him over the edge, this way we see him slowly become bitter and cruel, making him more tragic instead of a one note meme (also, in my mind for this, Calahan survived the explosion in the same way but it was Tadashi who used the microbots to save him, thus Calahan feels personally responsible and him going after Cray is to avenge his daughter and fallen pupil, also anytime the heroes fight him, I would have it where he never actually attacks them, just traps them in nanobots until he escapes showing that he does care for their saftey and doesn't want them to get involved or hurt)
3:00 What was wrong with it being obvious? Like they're right but that doesn't take away from the fact that it narratively worked really well. I guess if they wanted Yokai's identity to be a twist and I can get the issue but I'd have just kept him as a villain and downplay the mystery of it.
How To Be A Pirate by Cressida Cowell had an obvious twist villain in the form of Alvin the Treacherous. Come the sequels, Alvin is quite a formidable nemesis to Hiccup and part of why he works like that is because of the set-up in How To Be A Pirate.
Yeah I agree this is one of worst twist villians I think that's why this film gets overlooked because of that because everything else is solid but that ruined it especially when he said he didn't care 😕
If callaghan was stopping the ceo guy stealing microbot and got burn his face now scared and lost everything he use the microbot and other inventions to attack the ceo he could be a good villain
I mean what if the twist hadn't actually been that Kray wasn't the villain but what if more the big reveal was that his motives were actually close and personal and somewhat relatable to Hiro just basically flip the script have it be that Robert was the one who was in some way responsible for a loved one of Kray's death maybe a sister to drive the point home. so the big reveal is that up until the big wherehouse confrontation and unmasking they had just assumed Kray had done everything cause he was a greedy sly businessman just like Robert had told them but it turns out the bad blood that was established between them at the start was actually due to his sisters death due to Robert actually being unethical in his experiments. maybe just an idea.
A good twist villain is someone who you could forsee being the villain, so when the twist happen you can go "I knew it!". If a villain, any villain, only make sense with a retcon, then that is a shit villain.
I feel like the movie should have been about tedashi and maybe a relationship with abigail. Not hero. Having him die in the first moments of seeing him left me not really caring about him. I mean i had no emotional connection to him as a viewer or reaction beyond "wow that sucks."
frozen was where the twist villains began to suck as that movie would've been better if it stuck with elsa as the villain being antagonistic from her pain(compared to letting her kindom freeze selfishly from how the parents are the true villains of the movie with their actions.) and instead hans be so caught up with trying to stop elsa he nearly kills the sisters getting him imprisoned rather than the dumb reason for his turn/make his original change in the sequel feel organic rather than the writers realizing how really stupid it was. with callaghan it would've worked if we saw more grief for his actions as a tragic"the end justifies the means"but being blinded with revenge or getting some satisfaction with the regretful way he looks at the end that would be more impactful if we saw him show some grief to tadashi getting caught in the crossfire or try his best to hesitate killing his students/hiro after the nearly similar dark turn he almost made having baymax kill him instead of being callously apathetic.
Professor Callaghan/Yokai might not be the best villain, but his reason for turning out like that is 100% on Alistair Krei; never trust rich entrepreneurs like him (or Lex Luthor or Roland Daggett) as they'll likely exploit you and make you into a villain, bent on destruction. If you ask me, Krei's the one who should've been incarcerated for ruining Callaghan's life, no matter how "accidental" it was.
I LOVE big hero 6 but I agree that Callahagn was a strange choice for a villain, he would’ve been a better villain if they had previously established that his daughter died (since they thought she did) and if he had a prior hate for Craig, he did have a previous dislike but that seemed more like teasing between friends
Kalehan is a villain, but he isnt an antagonist, there isnt an antagonist to our protagonist. Its just some lunatic doing something completely unrelated to the hero and his struggles. Heros character arc is completely unrelated to Kalehan as a villain, the only link they have is the fire and that he stole the bots. Had a story taken place where Alestar stole the bots out of greed and profit, and did the evil to cover his mistakes, would mirror how Hero used his first bot for personal gain, made Baymax harm in his search for vengeance, where Hero and Alestar would be a thematic mirror and a warning to not do evil. You could change nothing but make Alestar the villain (and maybe tweak a little at the end), and it would be a much better movie.
Wait, did I hear that right? kang was a good villain to you? Really? Honestly, he was lackluster and weak as well. He didn't live up to the hype and just came off as a whiny bitch, honestly. Not once did I feel like he was a real threat, making me believe the others won't as well. I mean, come on. He lost to the weakest hero. The only reason he looked strong was because he was up against some of the weakest characters in the verse. He says he defeated other avengers, but I highly doubt that. He showed nothing that would even match them at all.
@nicholas. Yeah, I was surprise by that. I didn't like the fact that the writer's, brought her & her husband back. I'm like, why didn't she ever find them... What, she wasn't looking hard enough. But I'm still gonna watch, anyway...
ok but I still don't see how this "ruined" twist villains. It's not like ever major movie to release got their twist villain idea from BH6 💀This seems more of a rant from you about how you personally didn't like the twist...
Callaghan is easily one of the worst villains in the history of animation and a prime example of of how not to do a twist villain and the definition of Unintentionally Unsympathetic.
Honestly... If Callaghan had snapped at Hiro saying "that was his mistake" only for a look of grief to go across his face, showing he isn't just heartless, before going right back to being angry and hateful, it would actually work. Because now instead of saying that as a sign of apathy towards Tadashi, he's saying it as form of denial.
This
I would say have the pause of grief be before he says it, doubling down on his path. But the introspection is necessary for that line to work. It's amazing how important small details can be.
Like that scene with Shifu and Tai Lung in Kung Fu Panda
THAT WAS DISNEY'S MISTAKE
Bruh lol😂
Good movie, Bad villain "That was his mistake"
I hate the fact that Callaghan just stole Hiro's invention for his revenge. Like... what did he do before Hiro came to the college? Did he plan anything? Or nothing? Why did he use other people's inventions for HIS revenge? Isn't he a world-renowned scientist? Why doesn't he invent his own creation to fulfill his revenge?
Did he come up with this revenge plan after he met Hiro? Or before? When did the accident happen and when exactly did he decide to carry out his evil plan? And as Aldone mentioned, his personality completely changed from a caring good professor to a heartless evil revenger. Callaghan's story arc is so sloppy and unexecuted, in my opinion.
Hiro and Tadashi trusted Callaghan implicitly. Callaghan could have easily just asked for the microbots and gotten them
It could be that he thought too hard about how to get revenge that he never commit to an idea or get even get one. Then here comes Hiro at the convention basically giving him a good solution. Because despite all our good ideas, we might not think it is good enough to use or think that it won't work so we give up on it.
Just imagine if the movie went like this:
They find out Callaghan is the villain and instead of delivering that AWFUL line about Tadashi he said: "It's all HIS fault, and now I've lost 2 sons because of his mistakes!" Or something like that.
By that making the other rich guy the main villain who started the fire to steal the bots but it ended bad so he had to run out of there instead, with Callaghan in the building protecting himself with the bots, and of course Tadashi dying trying to rescue him, so then we have Callaghan blind by rage doing ANYTHING to destroy the other dude life, the rich guy who has ruined 2 people life thus making him a second villain and Hiro trying to stop Callaghan from becoming a murderer.
Damn... That sounds great. That sounds much better than what they went with, and it would have had a lot more nuance.
It would've made Callaghan sympathetic even. You can feel bad for what he's feeling and understand why but you can still feel absolutely revolted by his plan.
@@USSFFRU Exactly, that is what I meant
A big win for Scharffillas Production.
Not as bad as the Lightyear twist, though.
That’s not a high bar
That twist made me angry. What little I was enjoying about the movie was ruined by the reveal of Zurg.
It’s stupid. It breaks canon. It makes no goddamn sense. And it ruins Buzz as a character.
I just feel the reveal of Callaghan as Yokai was kind of lame. I do like the message and antithesis between him and Hiro about how to handle grief. But it also makes no sense as to why he’s trying to kill his students and Hiro when they have done nothing to deserve it. It serves no purpose to his goal to kill them. And given how Tadashi was his favorite student, it makes no sense as to why he’d just be so apathetic to his death. I fully get the stuff with Krei but everything else is just kind of weird. It feels like two different characters.
I don’t think anyone is a worse twist villain than Hans but I don’t really like this guy overall either.
In the show, he apologizes to Hiro about Tadashi's death, and it was always weird to me that THAT was what Hiro was mad about, not the fact that he tried to kill BH6. I guess it was supposed to be Yokai lashing out at anyone in his way or trying to kill Hiro so no one knew how the microbots worked, but I do wish we got more time seeing his POV.
I think another problem is there's a bit of a mixed message when you think about how if Robert hadn't done his whole revenge plan he may have never gotten his daughter back so ultimately in a weird way he was rewarded for his crimes.
the guy's in prison but I'm assuming that isn't as bad as the grief he had when he thought his daughter was dead so yeah bit weird I still feel to this day Kray should have been the one who got sucked into the portal in the climax which makes it even more noble of Hiro following Tadashi's words and helping him despite his flaws.
@@spencerreid2086 Not sure if this helps, but in the show, he thanked Hiro for rescuing her, as well as apologizing for Tadashi's death--though this in itself is confusing since he didn't start the fire, but the narrative kinda implies he did and a lot of people theorize he did.
@@OpticalSorcerer wait he didn't start the fire? I literally just assumed for all these years ever since the film came out that he did start it.
@@spencerreid2086 Nowhere in the film or show does it confirm that he did. Hiro at one point states Yokai started the fire, but Yokai never gave any idication that he did. Hiro likely assumed Yokai wanted to steal his microbots and used the fire as a distraction. In the flashback, Callaghan said he used the microbots to save himself, but it's never explicitly said he started the fire. Weird how Hiro brings up the idea that the fire was started deliberately, but it's never followed up on if it was an accident or not.
But make no mistake, Callaghan did endanger his students (I'd go as far as saying he tried to kill them) on several ocassions. The fire just wasn't one of those confirmed situations.
Literally a single line change would've saved Callahan's whole character and made him a more believable villain - changing "That was his mistake!" to be something like "And that's another child I've lost because of HIM!"
Would've perfectly illustrated Callahan's grief and obsession, reaffirmed that he still deeply cared about and was still mourning Tadashi's death, and made his actions explainable with the flawed logic you'd EXPECT a villain like him to have. It works out perfectly with what they already wanted to illustrate his grief as - destroy the person he believed is responsible for not only the death of his daughter, but also took away the person he bonded with as a surrogate son. This movie was almost great, but fell completely on its face because of that one line.
At least it gave us the Schafrilla Productions meme "That was his mistake!"
That was Disney's mistake
Whoever thought that they could make a good villain in this movie…
*_That was his mistake_*
Bh6 also had such an interesting world of San Fran Tokyo and totally wasted it too. I would have loved to see more on how this world works
Feels so similar to marvel's spider man show of smart people in one area causing all the damage.
At least st bh6 was better than the marvel spider man show
Schafrillas be like “THAT WAS HIS STEAK”
The one Disney twist villain I've never understood the hate for is Bellwether from Zootopia. That film is a neo-noir mystery film, so not knowing who the culprit is is essentially a must. Also, there are quite a few hints of her true nature that, although easy to miss, become far more noticeable the second time around.
I don't think people hate her for being a twist villain, but rather a twist villain with little to no clues. Yeah, I don't think there are noticeable clues that she's the villains, if there are clues at all, even on a second watch
@@yay29823 As an avid fan of murder mysteries, I agree with you that the twist wasn't handled nearly as well as it could have been. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that there weren't any clues for the viewer to pick up on.
- Bellwether repeatedly talks about how all of the 'little guys need to stick together', constantly trying to separate animals such as herself and Judy from those she deems inferior. At first it appears as though she's literally talking about small, overlooked animals, but upon the revelation that she's the mastermind behind the conspiracy to turn predators savage, her words take on a more sinister meaning. Bellwether's desire for all the 'unappreciated little guys' to unite against a common enemy is why she's particularly supportive of a random little farm rabbit becoming the newest recruit of the ZPD; a rabbit is the perfect animal to convince the rest of Zootopia that prey species need no longer be afraid of 'backwards predators'. Bellwether's prejudice is hinted at early on as her first 'little guys' remark is within the first ten minutes of the film, being only her second full line of dialogue. Also, the same scene of Judy's graduation ends with Bellwether quickly running past Lionheart after he pushes in front of her so that her face can be seen in the photos being taken of the event. This infers a deep-seated desire to be recognised and respected by others, even when she's supposed to be donning her meek, humble facade.
- Bellwether keeps managing to show up at the most convenient of times. Not only does she pass by Chief Bogo's office just in time to stop the one officer integral to her plans from being fired, she also just so happens to set up the rainforest surveillance system to the exact time that Mr Manchas is captured by the wolves, therefore allowing Judy to easily discover the lab and expose the conspiracy to the general public.
- Bellwether's name is significant as a 'bellwether' is a sheep that leads the rest of a flock. Once it's revealed that the predators are being turned savage by a group of conspiratorial rams, her name becomes a hint of her being the mammal they work for. Also, sheep have a habit of popping up during the most important parts of the film. For example, just before Duke Weaselton steals the night howlers from the florist, two rams are seen eyeing up the place and whispering to each other. Nick's character is introduced by nearling being run over by a ram who clearly harbors prejudicial views against his kind. It's also a ram reporter who asks Judy during the press conference to confirm that it's only predators who are going savage, and we even see a young ewe being bullied by Gideon the fox at the very beginning of the film, making sheep the first on-screen victims of the 'savage instincts' of modern-day predator species.
- Nick's backstory explores the idea of spiteful prey species being prejudiced towards predators. Combine that with Bellwether being a diminutive ewe who is frequently and publicly mistreated by Lionheart, and her unyielding support for Judy over seemingly every other ZPD officer becomes slightly suspicious the more you look at it. For example, despite Judy making some dangerously broad statements during the press conference that leave every other citizen of Zootopia scared, confused or angry, Bellwether is the one to reassure her by telling her that 'she did fine'. Seems like a good example of her being a supportive friend at first, but in hindsight was because Judy had just done exactly what Bellwether wanted her to do.
There's more, but I think you get the point. Again, I do agree with you that the reveal wasn't executed especially well, and I'm certainly not claiming that it was obvious as some of these are subtle to the point of potentially being unintentional. However, I don't think it fair to say that there are no clues for the audience to spot, even during a second viewing.
@@PuzzlePottage1390 Most of these I didn't notice, you're truly a murder mystery person!
@@yay29823 Thank you, but you're giving me too much credit. I assure you that some of these are just me grasping at straws as I try to overanalyse a Disney film about talking animals.
Yeah, a twist villain is absolutely necessary for a mystery film.
But honestly I think the hate comes from a few places
1. She was yet another twist villain after a couple of other ones. Even though it’s justified in this case, it was still an annoying trend. This along with comparisons to Disney’s classic villains, kinda increased the distaste towards her
2. Her overall lack of presence in the film kinda doesn’t give a lot of impact to the twist. It was like “Oh. Right. Her. OK.” It didn’t really feel like a betrayal, or really much of anything.
3. Her design is just not intimidating or memorable. Which is definitely the point, mind you, she was supposed to be unexpected. But all the same, after the mask dropped… it was kinda hard to take her seriously as a threat.
I saw the title and I already agree.
When I was first watching the movie I was like “Wah? That’s the villain?”
I mustache twisting evil CEO is cliché. The idea behind the villain isn't bad just the execution. If he showed regret for Tadashi dying it would have been better
A moment of introspection before doubling down when he's already come so far?
If Callaghan used the portal to save the daughter than he wouldn't be a villain in this movie but nope that was his mistake.
Doc Ock: What did you say to a kid after losing his brother in the fire ? Oh yes, you just told him... that was his mistake.
Octavius killed Callaghan by snapping his neck with one of his tentacles, and dropping his body to the ground.
Doc Ock: Well, you were always been a mistake.
"THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE"
I have to say the best twist villain that has come out in recent years is the twist villain in Invincible. They expose this character is the villain at the end of the first episode and the characters figure it out at the season one finale. Which I like they expose the twist for the audience at the end of episode 1 so we can figure out is motive while we wait on pins and needles how the rest of the characters will figure it out as well as what the villain will do since we know they are evil and everyone else believes they are a hero
Are you talking about: Nolan Omni-Man Grayson?????😏🤩
@@silashurd3597 yeah just didn’t want to spoil it for who ever reads the comment and hasn’t watched the show
I have an enhanced idea for the story. Tadashi is in a relationship with Abigail Callaghan, the daughter of Robert Callaghan. We can showcase their love and connection through scenes of pictures and videos, portraying them as a devoted couple.
Abigail and Tadashi, being prominent scientists, decide to enhance Baymax to provide love and care for each other. This showcases their dedication and unique bond.
Over the years, Tadashi becomes involved with Alistair Krei's work and his company. However, Tadashi develops a sense of distrust towards Alistair Krei. We can show Alistair attempting to exploit Baymax for financial gain, but Tadashi consistently rejects his offers, leading to tension and anger between them.
When Abigail mysteriously disappears, Tadashi experiences immense grief. Baymax becomes Tadashi's source of support, helping him heal and cope with his loss. Tadashi chooses not to disclose the truth about Abigail's disappearance to Hero, and instead, relies on Baymax for comfort.
To further the story, we can depict Tadashi appearing in a video where he collaborates with Alistair Krei on a science experiment. However, an accident occurs during the experiment, leaving Tadashi to witness Callaghan's anger towards the scientific community. This heartbreaking event causes Tadashi to break down in tears, intensifying his grief over the loss of Abigail.
Tadashi's character can then undergo development as he learns to navigate his grief, much like Hero does after Tadashi's death. With Baymax's support, Tadashi gradually finds healing and ways to move forward.
Furthermore, we can introduce an additional twist by adding a trap in the basement. When Tadashi discovers a video in a private room, Callaghan and Tadashi engage in a heated argument regarding the microbots. Callaghan believes that seeking vengeance against Alistair and his company will help Tadashi's grief, but Tadashi rejects the idea. This leads to a loss of respect between them, culminating in Callaghan burning down the place, resulting in Tadashi's tragic death.
As the story progresses, Hero realizes that Yokai, the villain, believes his brother is alive and seeks revenge on Abigail. Hero confronts Yokai, initially suspecting Tadashi, but it is revealed that Callaghan is the true mastermind behind the villainous acts. This surprising twist adds depth to Callaghan's character and makes him a more compelling and complex villain.
I like this take. Wish we got this instead.
I think if he had been more of a king candy twist villain it would have been better. He is a really tough hard ass professor who pushes his students but seems to do so to work with the rich guy and give him more inventions to buy for cheap before selling them big. Tadashi doesn't like him but he's not going to leave anyone alone in that burning building. So that all goes the same way. Maybe have the microbots not have worked properly and so he actually survives the fire but with a disability that means that no one suspects him. Maybe then hiro uses baymax and the microbots to try to help him because that's what tadoshi would have wanted but when he gets turned away from even that that's when he goes fully into his grief puts baymax away because he can't stand to look at him but leaves the microbots with Callahan. Callahan then uses the microbots to make himself like a suit thing that can take over for his mobility device whatever it was or missing leg whatever. And then continue the plot exactly as is from there. He is set up to be a not nice guy who doesn't just do a 180 for no real explained reason.
Im guessing by ur username ur doing engineering
This was the movie that won the Oscar for Best Animation instead of How To Train Your Dragon 2 😢
And Lego Movie wasn’t even nominated.
How To Train Your Dragon 2 should have won.
Or even Isao Takahata’s swan song The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
I'll be honest, when I first watched Big Hero 6 I was somehow convinced that Tadashi was gonna be the villian somehow. Of course it makes absolutely no sense but considering this is loosely based off of the Marvel property it seemed to make sense to me at the time.
King Candy was a good villain twist
Re-watching the scene with Callahan revealed to be the villain, makes me look back to Monsters Inc. where it works way better, whereas Big Hero 6 failed. Because note that, even after Waternoose betrayed Mike and Sulley, he still assures that it wasn’t anything personal. He even chastises Randall saying that it never should’ve came to this, blaming him for being forced to banish Sulley, who he saw as a son to him.
Seriously, how hard was it for the creators of Big Hero 6 to even see that since they build up a father-son relationship between Callahan and Tadashi, that him saying what he said to Hiro, makes zero sense, since he was clearly on both brothers’ side. If anything, it would’ve made more sense, to say that he didn’t know that Tadashi was coming to save him, or that he did try to save Tadashi but failed, and try to tell Hiro that this isn’t personal.
I had an idea that would've been better: both Callaghan *and* Krei being the villains of the movie, but opposing ones.
Krei was the one who started the fire to steal Hiro's nanobots. However, Tadashi rescued Callaghan from the fire at the cost of his life, and Callaghan used the nanobots to survive. However, the accident twisted him. Callaghan has now lost not just his daughter but also one of his students to Krei's greed. He dons the mantle of Yokai for the sake of his revenge like in the story, but it's to avenge both Abigail and Tadeshi's deaths.
It'd still make for a great twist villain, but now, it's truer to Callaghan's character. He's still the caring teacher, but he's now one who wants to avenge both his daughter and Tadeshi. It also makes him a dark reflection of Hiro - he too wants to avenge Tadeshi's death. Hiro would be torn between wanting to stop Callaghan from going too far and wanting to help him kill Krei.
I think tadashi would be mutated and want help from obaker who he knew
I admit Callaghan legitimately surprised me when I first saw this movie
Lol, same.
@@KimberDWZok
I completely agree. BH6's twist villian was insanely mid.
That was his mistake
At least he gave us a lot of Schaffrillas memes
Read the manga adaptation? It basically fixes the movie
Yup
I still find it funny how Season 8 of _Ninjago_ managed to write a pretty great twist villain in the form of The Quiet One.
Sure, they are a character that starts off with a "nice personality" façade and later revealed to be evil, but that isn't the twist regarding The Quiet One, as it occurs right after the episode where their identity is revealed. The twist is that the Ninja's failures in an incident harkening back to the finale of Season 1 had traumatized them and shattered their perspective, fueling their villainous motives, and it re-contextualizes everything we know about past, present, and future events. Even better is Lloyd's reaction to the twist, further emphasizing this scene!
That is how you can write a memorable twist villain!
I still don’t understand why this film of all the animated films released in 2014 the Academy picked this for Best Animated Feature? Either How to Train Your Dragon 2 or The Tale of the Princess Kaguya would’ve been better choices than Big Hero 6.
Seriously, this was rectified in Big Hero 6: The Series, as the worldbuilding is expanded upon, and you get a better villain in Obake! And that’s just in the first season!
When I was a kid, watching this, first thought I had when they revealed the villain was "that makes 0 sense" and it still doesn't sit right with me.
But Hans came first so wasn’t it him who ruined Twist Villains? Or do you think it’s Callaghan due to him continuing the bad twist villain trend?
Good question
He's talked about this before, so this video appears to be more of a continuation in a disjointed saga of videos rather than a restating of points as its own video. To summarize his points from previous videos, Big Hero 6, unlike Frozen, actually had time to develop its plot and flesh out its characters. Frozen originally had Elsa be the unsympathetic, undisputed main villain of the story and it's very clear by looking back on the film how much better it would've been had they kept that plotline. Big Hero 6 on the other hand had plenty of time to develop, wasn't a rushed project, and had little rewrites throughout the script - none of which would have impacted the story in a huge way. Frozen's flop of a twist villain was due to upper management being complete and total assholes, but Big Hero 6's flop was purely due to the writing team's incompetence.
@@davidpotts7116 also I do not hate the idea of Elsa being an irredeemable monster who dies at the end in the same vein as Maleficent and Ursula, but please tell me she would have been totally unique and not too samey. Here’s my ranking of potential Elsa’s depending on the fixes that many would have given, and I am also including the Elsa we got.
1. Fully-fleshed-out, redeemed villain Elsa
2. Irredeemable, totally unique Elsa
3. The Elsa we got
4. Irredeemable, derivative Elsa
@@henrythef1guy768 in 2017 we actually got information about what the story would have actually been like. First off, Elsa was plain and simply a villain. Elsa and Anna also weren't sisters, and Kristoff and Hans were still in the story. There was supposed to be a hidden prophecy about a ruler with a frozen heart bringing destruction to the kingdom, and that Elsa had frozen her own heart so that she could not feel again (because she got stood up at the altar and has been scorned by her people since). Not much is known about what would have happened in between, but Anna, Kristoff, and Hans would have learned why Elsa sealed off her heart and formed a plan to get her to be willing to feel again, at the same time stopping the prophecy from happening and saving everyone in the process.
But the original ending would have been amazing. Hans would be the one the prophecy talked about, being ACTUALLY well-hinted at being an unfeeling sociopath who was hungry for power. His original goal was to lead a movement for the dethroning and execution of Elsa, opening him up to take the throne because of his status as royalty in another land and being boosted by the misplaced trust of the people. So while Elsa would be the main villain of the story for most of the way through, Hans would still be a twist villain and it would actually have worked. Apparently he would try to cause an avalanche when they had Elsa cornered and ready to talk, bludgeoning the two other heroes and Elsa to death as they careened down the side of a mountain. They somehow get out of this fatal predicament, and Elsa learns to thaw her heart after being shown that it's okay to not bottle everything up after being hurt, but is still ready to accept all the consequences of her actions because it's also not okay to hurt others in return.
Not much else is known about the rewrites because Disney likes to keep their story elements secret for potential use in future films, but from what we do know the original Frozen would have been a much more action-and-emotion-focused film.
@@davidpotts7116 that would have been better than the Frozen we got
I didn't mind it, but I hated how late it happened; I wanted to see more of Yokai and things from his POV.
I would argue that the twist villain in cars 2 was the one that started the fall of twist villains, but not sure how many have actually watched the movie or blocked their memory of it.
Also I swear, right the second I saw Callaghan on screen, I knew he is gonna be the main villain in some way. Though I'm a spiderman fan and that is kind of a common trope there so I guess thats how I figured it out so fast...
This movies almost 10 years old 0_o
To be fair only an idiot runs into a burning building instead of getting professionals to do it. Not sure how the statement is wrong when it really was his own fault for making a bad choice no person would expect him to make during a fire.
Challaghan ruined big hero 6 chances of being one of my favorite Disney movies
Can you please do a video on the problems with the rise of girl bosses as well as the ones that worked? With the rise of the spider-verse franchise, I believe we need to learn more about the rest of Sony Animation films. Lastly, I think it's a great idea to talked about Disney Junior shows like the lion Guard, Jake and the neverland pirates, and Little einsteins.
One of many reasons why Big Hero 6 is one of my most detested Disney films, opposite Rays and the Last Dragon, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and both Frozen films.
Yokai is far from the best Disney villain, but he has one of the best punishments.
He isn't going to die, he's going to live to see the only person he cared about reject him and see him as a monster.
Don’t worry Omni-Man proved that a twist villain can work.
Man, Craig as a movie NOT ONLY WOULD FIT BETTER, BUT ALSO WOULD BE DEFINITELY MORE FUN
*Imagine a Dangreous Syndrome-Style villain Played by ALAN TUDYK(Like Mr. NOBODY)*
Instead of just Whatever Callaghan was suppoused to be(Because Enjoyable he WASN'T)
Big Hero 6: The Series did a good job in its first two Big Bads being effective foils to Hiro and Baymax, and the latter even is a better execution of a twist villain. Just enough hints to clue in the viewer without making it too obvious. A shame about season 3.
Pretty good movie. Started to fall apart at end of the second act and third act.
I dont know why, but I think it would be more interesting if Yokai was revealed to be a janitor working at the school, some nobody who no one paid much attention to who turned out to be a genius and because of his attitude he was never able to get a job as a scientist.
They never found tadashi's body so I think he became sunfire
Your video fell in the moment you reduce the Fun & Memorable MARVEL SUPER-VILLAINS to just the BIG GREY BLOBS of the MCU instead of their Comic & SPECIALLY ANIMATION counterparts
I can talk for 1.44 Hours about how MCU RUINED almost all Marvel Super-Villains
Could you make a video on Disney planning to return to 2D animation?
0:46 he never says it in the movie
They could have at least made the red herring guy have a design that made the reveal plausible. His nose makes his profile so triangular that it would never fit behind that kabuki mask.
This is for anybody who read the big hero six comic, so how was the big hero six comic? Would you recommend it? I just wanna know.
I always thought a better way Big Hero 6 could have gone is this, the explosion that "killed" the professors daughter was actually at the showcase where Tadashi died, and we never believe the professor died, thus his lose and Hiro's lose are tied into the same event, also the daughter should actually be killed. Then the movies shows through these two characters the ways of processing grief, Hiro slowly becomes better while Calhan becomes worse, he tries to move on, eventually seeing Hiro as a surrogate child but the relationship with Hiro only reminds him of what he lost, driving him over the edge, this way we see him slowly become bitter and cruel, making him more tragic instead of a one note meme (also, in my mind for this, Calahan survived the explosion in the same way but it was Tadashi who used the microbots to save him, thus Calahan feels personally responsible and him going after Cray is to avenge his daughter and fallen pupil, also anytime the heroes fight him, I would have it where he never actually attacks them, just traps them in nanobots until he escapes showing that he does care for their saftey and doesn't want them to get involved or hurt)
I mean the movie got itself in Kingdom Hearts, which should be a testament to something, right?
You should do another Big Hero 6 video with Rasorblade
3:00 What was wrong with it being obvious? Like they're right but that doesn't take away from the fact that it narratively worked really well. I guess if they wanted Yokai's identity to be a twist and I can get the issue but I'd have just kept him as a villain and downplay the mystery of it.
Twist villains are only bad when they are super obvious. The Incredibles 2 villain was super obvious as well.
How To Be A Pirate by Cressida Cowell had an obvious twist villain in the form of Alvin the Treacherous. Come the sequels, Alvin is quite a formidable nemesis to Hiccup and part of why he works like that is because of the set-up in How To Be A Pirate.
Yeah I agree this is one of worst twist villians I think that's why this film gets overlooked because of that because everything else is solid but that ruined it especially when he said he didn't care 😕
idk if people like this movie or hate it 💀💀
You should give the movie credit how Callagan's motivations wasnt just to take over the world
That was his steak
If callaghan was stopping the ceo guy stealing microbot and got burn his face now scared and lost everything he use the microbot and other inventions to attack the ceo he could be a good villain
I actually LOVED the movie and i agree completely that challagan being the villain was the worst part, alister shouldve been the villain 100%
I mean what if the twist hadn't actually been that Kray wasn't the villain but what if more the big reveal was that his motives were actually close and personal and somewhat relatable to Hiro just basically flip the script have it be that Robert was the one who was in some way responsible for a loved one of Kray's death maybe a sister to drive the point home.
so the big reveal is that up until the big wherehouse confrontation and unmasking they had just assumed Kray had done everything cause he was a greedy sly businessman just like Robert had told them but it turns out the bad blood that was established between them at the start was actually due to his sisters death due to Robert actually being unethical in his experiments. maybe just an idea.
THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE
At the time by Disney Standards, this wasn't that good but it was and still is a good movie.
A good twist villain is someone who you could forsee being the villain, so when the twist happen you can go "I knew it!".
If a villain, any villain, only make sense with a retcon, then that is a shit villain.
“That was his mistake”
I feel like the movie should have been about tedashi and maybe a relationship with abigail. Not hero. Having him die in the first moments of seeing him left me not really caring about him. I mean i had no emotional connection to him as a viewer or reaction beyond "wow that sucks."
2:10 all of his characters are the same person 😂
frozen was where the twist villains began to suck as that movie would've been better if it stuck with elsa as the villain being antagonistic from her pain(compared to letting her kindom freeze selfishly from how the parents are the true villains of the movie with their actions.) and instead hans be so caught up with trying to stop elsa he nearly kills the sisters getting him imprisoned rather than the dumb reason for his turn/make his original change in the sequel feel organic rather than the writers realizing how really stupid it was.
with callaghan it would've worked if we saw more grief for his actions as a tragic"the end justifies the means"but being blinded with revenge or getting some satisfaction with the regretful way he looks at the end that would be more impactful if we saw him show some grief to tadashi getting caught in the crossfire or try his best to hesitate killing his students/hiro after the nearly similar dark turn he almost made having baymax kill him instead of being callously apathetic.
Hopefully this is one movie that won’t get a live action remake
Tadashi shouldn't have been The Villain
Don't you mean Why Big Hero 6 is bad?
It's a meh movie with a bad villian
I only watched movie mainly for the Baymax antics
Professor Callaghan/Yokai might not be the best villain, but his reason for turning out like that is 100% on Alistair Krei; never trust rich entrepreneurs like him (or Lex Luthor or Roland Daggett) as they'll likely exploit you and make you into a villain, bent on destruction. If you ask me, Krei's the one who should've been incarcerated for ruining Callaghan's life, no matter how "accidental" it was.
It doesn't mean that Callaghan's supervillain persona "Yokai" is bad? Yokai in apperance is cool, right?
Read the manga adaptation? It basically fixes the movie
Have the twist villain Tadashi.
Perfectly Robert going far, he's sent Young brother fo to jail 😮 In series. He given a little, but alway. THAT For Kids 😮
A million times better than frozen
Imagine Titan from Megamind have a better Twist Villain
And boy did they make the big hero 6 series worse
BIG HERO 6: the disney version of Teen Titans
I LOVE big hero 6 but I agree that Callahagn was a strange choice for a villain, he would’ve been a better villain if they had previously established that his daughter died (since they thought she did) and if he had a prior hate for Craig, he did have a previous dislike but that seemed more like teasing between friends
His bro is still alive.....and Baymax knows where he is.
Kalehan is a villain, but he isnt an antagonist, there isnt an antagonist to our protagonist. Its just some lunatic doing something completely unrelated to the hero and his struggles. Heros character arc is completely unrelated to Kalehan as a villain, the only link they have is the fire and that he stole the bots.
Had a story taken place where Alestar stole the bots out of greed and profit, and did the evil to cover his mistakes, would mirror how Hero used his first bot for personal gain, made Baymax harm in his search for vengeance, where Hero and Alestar would be a thematic mirror and a warning to not do evil.
You could change nothing but make Alestar the villain (and maybe tweak a little at the end), and it would be a much better movie.
Wait, did I hear that right? kang was a good villain to you? Really? Honestly, he was lackluster and weak as well. He didn't live up to the hype and just came off as a whiny bitch, honestly. Not once did I feel like he was a real threat, making me believe the others won't as well. I mean, come on. He lost to the weakest hero. The only reason he looked strong was because he was up against some of the weakest characters in the verse. He says he defeated other avengers, but I highly doubt that. He showed nothing that would even match them at all.
Never seen this movie.
Glad I never did.
Can't wait for Chicken Run 2, to come on Netflix.
And without Mel Gibson, an improvement
Mrs Tweedy beign alive is a surprise as youd think she was killed off
@nicholas. Yeah, I was surprise by that.
I didn't like the fact that the writer's, brought her & her husband back.
I'm like, why didn't she ever find them...
What, she wasn't looking hard enough.
But I'm still gonna watch, anyway...
I never liked Big hero 6. I didnt like the cast of characters, they sucked but the aunt was hot
ok but I still don't see how this "ruined" twist villains. It's not like ever major movie to release got their twist villain idea from BH6 💀This seems more of a rant from you about how you personally didn't like the twist...
Callaghan is easily one of the worst villains in the history of animation and a prime example of of how not to do a twist villain and the definition of Unintentionally Unsympathetic.