I like that you took a look at a new player’s save. Not only does it re-cover the basics, but it also can bring up points the veteran players may have forgot or just not known. Keep up the great work, Arumba!
you must learn to accept defeat sometimes, restarting feels meta gaming instead of the immersion playing the game tbh, im not speedrunning im having fun
@@sushiisfishy It's not fun though. And some games are better at making failure fun than others. EU games punish failure. So in most cases it's not worthwhile to stick out hard times. Unless you're stuck with an Ironman campaign for achievements.
@@Madhattersinjeans Subjective. EU4 failure is not as death spirally as HoI4. In HoI4 you pretty much can't recover from a decisive loss, and stalling the enemy to help your AI allies is seriously lame. You can spend hours only to lose all chance of success in a flash. In EU there's loans, bankruptcy, manpower recovery, and tons of other ways to claw your way back into some level of prosperity.
Антон Приставкин What do you mean? In my first game I conquered an entire state from Castille as Aragon by 1821, how is it hard playing your first campaign?
I'd love to see more of these, I'm a new player and I've played a few games but always end up in some place with a roadblock that I don't know how to get around it. Keep up the great content!
Hey- love the vids! If you, or anyone else, want to nerd out about the types of loan that EU4 employs, and its real world uses, read on: The technical description for the loans are "variable interest only". "Interest only" is exactly what it sounds like- the designated payments are only interest; the borrower does not pay down the principal (borrowed amount) during the term of the loan, and is required to pay all of the principal at termination. Because the lender does not get any principal payments, it is typical for all interest to be payable, even if repaid early. These are very niche, but are very common where they make sense. An average family buying a home, for example, would almost never take an interest only loan- there is no way they will be able to make the final payment, even with the lower monthly payments. They are more common in two situations- house flippers, and people looking to reduce the size of their estate for estate tax purposes. For flippers, the end goal is a quick sale- so the repayment of the principal is not a problem, and the lower monthly payments are desireable. For sellers to flippers, it is usually done in seller-financed sales, where the seller of the home keeps a mortgage on the house. It can be preferable for these sellers, because if the borrower default, he has not accumulated any equity in the property (via principal payments) - so the seller MAY not be obligated to sell the home at an auction. They can retake the home, rinse and repeat. I have also seen it used by wealthy families looking to avoid estate taxes (commonly called "death" or "inheritance" tax, but those are misnomers). In the US, you can only give so much money to a person per year, without it cutting into the Unified Credit (estate and gift tax credit are a single value used up over one's lifetime). In order to make the transfer of a family home (e.g.) to their child not a gift, they need to have a legitimate sale. That's where the interest only comes in- they can make a sale that can withstand IRS challenge, but has as little impact on their child. These are often paired with other tricks, like self-cancelling debts, and Intentionally Deficient Grantor Trusts. But that is CRAZY complicated...
Was wondering how I missed this, then I looked at the views and realized it's the first time I see one of your videos the moment they go live :D PS: Been watching your (by now ancient) Norway playthrough and am almost done but would be cool if you did a new game with them on a newer patch!
He should simply restart with Portugal and DO NOT do the same things he did, learning from your mistakes is the best way to learn EU4 imo other than watching RUclipsrs which he already did supposedly...
He's a brand new player, and since Arumba has created this series for the exact purpose of explaining some game mechanics, I thinks it's a good assay. It will probably save this guy (and other people) some frustation in learning the basics behind Estates, Rebels and Stability, for instance.
Lucas Kitamura the problem is that arumba is explaining things in terms of the present. Like the person above alluded to, it would be better to know what he did to lead to this situation and then coach him how he could improve
This was a great video. Not only for the information (that interest on loans are connected to stability is something I never noticed or heard of) but I like the idea of saving fucked up games... PARADOX introduce scenarios already.
Yeah this is another big part of it that is very dangerous to consider. Even rebel stacks will be inredibly difficult to manage when bankrupt. But sometimes it's better than the alternative.
Are you taking more of these for review? I'm on my first game, did pretty well I think, but now I'm at around 1710 and frankly have no idea what to do next. I'm in good shape now, but every attempt at expansion from here has ended in disaster. I'd love to see a similair "here's what you should do, news" for late-game play.
This community suprises me every time... I mean, he downloaded his save and went step by step on a stream... I found out it is only common in these type of strategy games (ck, eu, total wars..) my faith in humanity is restored every time I watch streams like this :D
What add-ons you would recommend for an Portugal-Player? I'm new and want start with my Country, and I heard to use the most of Portugal, you need some add-ons like " Golden Century". I hope you can help me.
I feel this guys pain. I'm 885 hours in and there is still so much that I have no idea how to do, I suck at this game. I only just learnt how to release nations as vassals! In the past I've released nations and been like "huh, why you no vassal :(" I can win campaigns on normal ironman without save scrubbing (but with a few restarts) but I feel like I'm just scraping by and never really dominating. Still love it though.
Appreciate these kind of assays. But it would also be good to know a little of the game history before the assay so you can properly advise players at what point they made a major decision that would backfire.
The loans function as primitive debt securities, not a true loan in the modern sense. So, they're bonds. Not sure why they didn't just label them as such.
I only do it on super cheap provinces I capture with the intent of developing them. Like someone in Arabia FINALLY getting some sweet, sweet grassland or farmlands. Once you lock in the culture convert the price never goes up, even if you're developing while it's converting. Some cultures are super tiny and not worth the slot, especially if they're not in a great trade node for you. Genoa's culture, for instance, is only three provinces, if I recall correctly. Three!
Of course it is. You can only accept a limited number of cultures at any point in the game, so you'll never be able to accept all cultures. Then, there's the fact that unaccepted cultures give a 33% penalty to local tax and manpower.
@@Anand70707 Culture conversion cost diplo points. Its simply more convenient not to. You get less out of every individual province, but you can take more provinces via peace deal or by integrating vassals. Its a matter of cuantity being better than quality in this case.
Hey Arumba! I too, learned EU IV from watching your videos. However at this point I have over 1000 hours in it. Two small problems though. One, I have hit a roadblock with playing natives. I cant get the Inca and Aztec achievements. Two, I have no DLCs. Would you be willing to take one of my saves from when the Europeans arrive and show me how to beat them?
@@dylanb2990 Unfortunately I have to agree here. Some of the DLC's have some important buttons you can click that make the game much smoother for playing certain nations. And on top of that a lot of player advice is built on the baseline of having at least some of the main DLC's. Real shame paradox do this with the game, puts a big bulawark in the way for new players and it upsets the older ones who feel obliged to get the dlcs just to get the newest experience.
Hi Arumba, how would you set about conquering India as the UK. The Indians, especially Bahmanis, Dehli, Vjyanagar all seem to have godly powers by the time I arrive in India by the early 1600s
I think this is a good example to use for what can go wrong and how to fix it. However, the best thing the player can do is restart. Learn what went wrong and try again. Maybe without ironman turned on so they can cheat if needed until the learn more.
Pissing off the nobles is a bad idea for a new player who is bad at Economy, he can't really Merc up and the lack of experience winning wars means he'll likely be at low manpower all game.
I noticed you deleted the video about tariffs. Inspired by the math i went for the achievement of overthrowing my colonial overlord. I started as Portugal Got myself into the position of owning all the coastline of marocco, the goldmine and granada and tripoli as vassal. Got full expansion and exploration ideas and spammed colonies in brazil untill the nation spawned, released and played. Formed brazil and went for colonizing towards the goldmine's. Now before 1550 i am 6th great power with over 20 gold income and caught up on tech and institutions. Even switched government from merchant rep to normal rep in between. This seems a bit too easy.
Mhm - Portugal... probably not a good beginner game... Also... DON'T PLAY IRONMAN... If you're a beginner - seriously... Why? I had over 100 hours in EU4 before I played a single Ironman game... Mostly because I didn't care about Chieves... But still... Why? However, for a complete noob - he's not as bad as you would think :P
Ah yes, I remember that pain as well my friend... Even now on a relatively fast computer, speed 5 takes a few seconds to speed past each month, instead of the 1-2 seconds it's supposed to take...
I never played a non ironman game in eu4 because and I am quite happy with it. I don't want to be tempted to reload every mistake. This would just kill the game for me
![How To Play The IDEAL 1.35 Portugal [EU4 Guide]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r0bOXJ4SpiY/mqdefault.jpg)
I like that you took a look at a new player’s save. Not only does it re-cover the basics, but it also can bring up points the veteran players may have forgot or just not known. Keep up the great work, Arumba!
And on top of that it makes the game a lot less intimidating for people who watch and wonder whether they should start playing.
I like that he takes a different tone to each. With this one, he kept it a lot less technical, he did a good job of speaking to a beginner’s level.
Restarting is easy, learning to fix these problems is valuable.
Couldn't agree more. Failure is a wonderful teacher.
you must learn to accept defeat sometimes, restarting feels meta gaming instead of the immersion playing the game tbh, im not speedrunning im having fun
@@sushiisfishy It's not fun though. And some games are better at making failure fun than others.
EU games punish failure. So in most cases it's not worthwhile to stick out hard times. Unless you're stuck with an Ironman campaign for achievements.
@@Madhattersinjeans Subjective. EU4 failure is not as death spirally as HoI4. In HoI4 you pretty much can't recover from a decisive loss, and stalling the enemy to help your AI allies is seriously lame. You can spend hours only to lose all chance of success in a flash. In EU there's loans, bankruptcy, manpower recovery, and tons of other ways to claw your way back into some level of prosperity.
prestige -92 legitimacy 0 stab -2
nice
0 manpower to top it off
And as typical Portugal, a lot of loans.
Two Boats
Come on you guys, it’s hard playing your first campaign
Антон Приставкин
What do you mean? In my first game I conquered an entire state from Castille as Aragon by 1821, how is it hard playing your first campaign?
Assay is a great instructional concept. Thanks for sharing
I'd love to see more of these, I'm a new player and I've played a few games but always end up in some place with a roadblock that I don't know how to get around it. Keep up the great content!
Glad you do a save for new player for one, thx Arumba!
Thank you Arumba for doing these assays. They're helpful and I learn something with every one.
Hey- love the vids! If you, or anyone else, want to nerd out about the types of loan that EU4 employs, and its real world uses, read on:
The technical description for the loans are "variable interest only".
"Interest only" is exactly what it sounds like- the designated payments are only interest; the borrower does not pay down the principal (borrowed amount) during the term of the loan, and is required to pay all of the principal at termination.
Because the lender does not get any principal payments, it is typical for all interest to be payable, even if repaid early.
These are very niche, but are very common where they make sense.
An average family buying a home, for example, would almost never take an interest only loan- there is no way they will be able to make the final payment, even with the lower monthly payments.
They are more common in two situations- house flippers, and people looking to reduce the size of their estate for estate tax purposes.
For flippers, the end goal is a quick sale- so the repayment of the principal is not a problem, and the lower monthly payments are desireable.
For sellers to flippers, it is usually done in seller-financed sales, where the seller of the home keeps a mortgage on the house. It can be preferable for these sellers, because if the borrower default, he has not accumulated any equity in the property (via principal payments) - so the seller MAY not be obligated to sell the home at an auction. They can retake the home, rinse and repeat.
I have also seen it used by wealthy families looking to avoid estate taxes (commonly called "death" or "inheritance" tax, but those are misnomers).
In the US, you can only give so much money to a person per year, without it cutting into the Unified Credit (estate and gift tax credit are a single value used up over one's lifetime).
In order to make the transfer of a family home (e.g.) to their child not a gift, they need to have a legitimate sale.
That's where the interest only comes in- they can make a sale that can withstand IRS challenge, but has as little impact on their child.
These are often paired with other tricks, like self-cancelling debts, and Intentionally Deficient Grantor Trusts.
But that is CRAZY complicated...
Was wondering how I missed this, then I looked at the views and realized it's the first time I see one of your videos the moment they go live :D
PS: Been watching your (by now ancient) Norway playthrough and am almost done but would be cool if you did a new game with them on a newer patch!
If you check twitch he did do a shortish run as Norway.
This is a great idea to do this video because its good to remember even the best of the best players were a noob one day.
He should simply restart with Portugal and DO NOT do the same things he did, learning from your mistakes is the best way to learn EU4 imo other than watching RUclipsrs which he already did supposedly...
Very First Question I’m very curious to know what exactly happened
@Sion879
Yeah that is a good question, seems like everything went wrong.
He's a brand new player, and since Arumba has created this series for the exact purpose of explaining some game mechanics, I thinks it's a good assay. It will probably save this guy (and other people) some frustation in learning the basics behind Estates, Rebels and Stability, for instance.
Lucas Kitamura the problem is that arumba is explaining things in terms of the present. Like the person above alluded to, it would be better to know what he did to lead to this situation and then coach him how he could improve
Good point. Would be nice if he reviewed the player's previous actions.
I remember my first peasants war. I think I had 2 or 3 before I figured it all out.
Great video Arumba! Nice to see you giving newbie info.
This was a great video. Not only for the information (that interest on loans are connected to stability is something I never noticed or heard of) but I like the idea of saving fucked up games... PARADOX introduce scenarios already.
2-0-1, that's awful. Wait, what. THATS MY AVERAGE!
Bankcrupcy also gives -50 morale - I love to attack a Nation who is bankcrupt :D
Yeah this is another big part of it that is very dangerous to consider. Even rebel stacks will be inredibly difficult to manage when bankrupt. But sometimes it's better than the alternative.
this video was very informative, thanks Arumba
Dear Arumba, I love you, end of conversation.
3500h in TIL you can end the peasants war this way
yeah lol
Yeah, fixing priblems yourself is great, but have you ever tried using the magic squirrels?
Nice, just what I'm looking for :)
Are you taking more of these for review? I'm on my first game, did pretty well I think, but now I'm at around 1710 and frankly have no idea what to do next. I'm in good shape now, but every attempt at expansion from here has ended in disaster. I'd love to see a similair "here's what you should do, news" for late-game play.
This community suprises me every time... I mean, he downloaded his save and went step by step on a stream... I found out it is only common in these type of strategy games (ck, eu, total wars..) my faith in humanity is restored every time I watch streams like this :D
Arumba, is this like Legend of Total War's save your disaster campaign's?
yeah, but Arumba did it first
Simpsons did it
That AI Brandenburg is going to be scary in the future
it'll be an ai Prussia in about 10 years
What add-ons you would recommend for an Portugal-Player? I'm new and want start with my Country, and I heard to use the most of Portugal, you need some add-ons like " Golden Century". I hope you can help me.
I feel this guys pain. I'm 885 hours in and there is still so much that I have no idea how to do, I suck at this game. I only just learnt how to release nations as vassals! In the past I've released nations and been like "huh, why you no vassal :("
I can win campaigns on normal ironman without save scrubbing (but with a few restarts) but I feel like I'm just scraping by and never really dominating. Still love it though.
how do you release nations without turning them into vassals?
eylon1967 return province button
Appreciate these kind of assays. But it would also be good to know a little of the game history before the assay so you can properly advise players at what point they made a major decision that would backfire.
wwhere is my button.
The loans function as primitive debt securities, not a true loan in the modern sense. So, they're bonds. Not sure why they didn't just label them as such.
I like how he has 110 papal influence, and you can get 1 stability with that and he hasnt done that
Always wondered, is it ever worth it to convert cultures instead of accepting them?
Away from dutch to avoid the Netherlands spawning on top of you and to stop the monthly events I guess
I only do it on super cheap provinces I capture with the intent of developing them. Like someone in Arabia FINALLY getting some sweet, sweet grassland or farmlands. Once you lock in the culture convert the price never goes up, even if you're developing while it's converting.
Some cultures are super tiny and not worth the slot, especially if they're not in a great trade node for you. Genoa's culture, for instance, is only three provinces, if I recall correctly. Three!
Of course it is. You can only accept a limited number of cultures at any point in the game, so you'll never be able to accept all cultures. Then, there's the fact that unaccepted cultures give a 33% penalty to local tax and manpower.
unless you have nothing else to spend diplo points on, no.
Just develop accepted cultures/goldmines or increase mercantilism if you have the dlc.
@@Anand70707 Culture conversion cost diplo points. Its simply more convenient not to. You get less out of every individual province, but you can take more provinces via peace deal or by integrating vassals. Its a matter of cuantity being better than quality in this case.
Maybe explain him how to avoid getting in those problems
Hey Arumba! I too, learned EU IV from watching your videos. However at this point I have over 1000 hours in it. Two small problems though. One, I have hit a roadblock with playing natives. I cant get the Inca and Aztec achievements. Two, I have no DLCs. Would you be willing to take one of my saves from when the Europeans arrive and show me how to beat them?
Miles C I can’t imagine playing without DLC, you really have none? Cause the game is barely playable without some of the more important ones
@@dylanb2990 Unfortunately I have to agree here. Some of the DLC's have some important buttons you can click that make the game much smoother for playing certain nations.
And on top of that a lot of player advice is built on the baseline of having at least some of the main DLC's.
Real shame paradox do this with the game, puts a big bulawark in the way for new players and it upsets the older ones who feel obliged to get the dlcs just to get the newest experience.
You could have used papacy to increase the stab
I got a pu over England as portugal. Does that mean I win.
Hi Arumba, how would you set about conquering India as the UK. The Indians, especially Bahmanis, Dehli, Vjyanagar all seem to have godly powers by the time I arrive in India by the early 1600s
could you do and assay of a ck2 game sometime.
More of these!
I think this is a good example to use for what can go wrong and how to fix it.
However, the best thing the player can do is restart. Learn what went wrong and try again. Maybe without ironman turned on so they can cheat if needed until the learn more.
Pissing off the nobles is a bad idea for a new player who is bad at Economy, he can't really Merc up and the lack of experience winning wars means he'll likely be at low manpower all game.
O my god, its like im watching myself 2 months ago xD
Are we getting a new Portugal series when the Iberian Immersion Pack launches?
I would like to see another Grenada game. He's only done 1 very early in the games release and another on MEIU and Taxes.
watching him have to save scum granada like 5 times in a row again could be fun too xD
Portugal isn’t getting anything special... just 1 province. It’s basically a Spain patch and north africa
I've never seen a country that bad off. Not even AI ones that I roll over and over and over to milk for money and prestige.
Coool
I noticed you deleted the video about tariffs. Inspired by the math i went for the achievement of overthrowing my colonial overlord. I started as Portugal Got myself into the position of owning all the coastline of marocco, the goldmine and granada and tripoli as vassal. Got full expansion and exploration ideas and spammed colonies in brazil untill the nation spawned, released and played. Formed brazil and went for colonizing towards the goldmine's. Now before 1550 i am 6th great power with over 20 gold income and caught up on tech and institutions. Even switched government from merchant rep to normal rep in between. This seems a bit too easy.
He could get out of this situation, but it's only 50 years in... Looks like a 1444 to me.
I really must say EU4 is not a new comer friendly game.
Form Spain.
Mhm - Portugal... probably not a good beginner game...
Also... DON'T PLAY IRONMAN... If you're a beginner - seriously... Why?
I had over 100 hours in EU4 before I played a single Ironman game... Mostly because I didn't care about Chieves... But still... Why?
However, for a complete noob - he's not as bad as you would think :P
I had like 800 when I started my first "real" ironman achivement run. I just have slow computer and the monthly saves takes IRL years.
Ah yes, I remember that pain as well my friend... Even now on a relatively fast computer, speed 5 takes a few seconds to speed past each month, instead of the 1-2 seconds it's supposed to take...
I never played a non ironman game in eu4 because and I am quite happy with it. I don't want to be tempted to reload every mistake. This would just kill the game for me
I actually started iron-man the very first day I started eu4. I just don't care if I win or lose lol.
You can actually change the save interval, even on iron man. Though perhaps this wasn't true when you started.
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He's just 50 years into the game and did not made any progress worth of mention, just restart