@user-cx3vo3pe1u Where in the statement, or in the original Ahadith, upon which the statement is based does it say "disobey Allah" has to be expressed and instructed explicitly ?
@@Abd.Al-Malik These people are typically the murji'. Their 'scholars' and 'rulers' can do all the kufr with their actions, but they remain muslims until they say 'we are kafir' or something silly like that.
Can someone explain to me why they're so hell bent on following rulers?? It's such a big deal for these guys, I can't get my head around, someone please explain!!
Actually, it is correct to follow ruler for stability and peace but here it became more of symbiotic relation, they get funding from ruler and in return they are propaganda machines for normalizing relations and watering down haram such as concert and Halloween. They are harsh with muslims who pray with hand as hanafi madhab but totally infavour of zionist's method of dealing with hamas by killing innocents, they think its Palestinians who brought this calamity on themselves arab rulers have tried to make peace but these psychotic Palestinians want to fight, these views are totally inclined with average zionist genocidal maniac.
“Oh you who believe (in this Qur’an), do not take (such) Jews and Christians as friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other. And whoever of you (Muslims) turn to them (with friendship and alliance) becomes, verily, one of them; behold, Allah does not guide such evildoers.” (Qur’an, al-Maidah, 5:51)
Saudi did khurooj against their rulers of that time namely the Turkish Caliphate. They killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims amwith help from their newly found British friends. After defecting from Turkey they made this doctrine and propped up this ideology based on which their Salafi Scholars started to forbid even criticising the rulers. Product of pure irony!
That’s why they prop up this false claim of always obeying the rulers Because they know how They gained power By allying themselves with the kuffar against believers
@azikazikaziktrue all the other arabs from UAE, Qatar, Jordan, Syria, Bahrain ext rebelled alongside the kuffar against the ottomans. So literally these madkhali khawrij want obedience to their khawrij rulers
“I am not sad if a man, woman or child from Chechnya dies, because they are shahids in sha Allah. And what saddens me greatly, I swear by Allah, is the silence of Islamic countries. By this I mean the rulers of these countries who had to cut off their ties with Russia in all areas. If they had done this, then she would have stopped and there would have been no foreshadowing of trouble for them. But unfortunately, Islamic countries, by this I mean their rulers, are silent and say nothing. This, I swear by Allah, makes me very sad. The young Islamic republic is doing this to it, but they are silent about it.” Sheikh ibn Usaymin (رحمه الله) This was said almost 30 years ago. Since then, nothing has changed with these “rulers”. If only for the worse. Nox4i
@@khairt1731there werent any official help but there still where mujaheedin from all over the muslim world who came to fight for bosnia. Pakistan held lots of refugee camps, small arms shipments came and saudi supported some of the mujahideen (primarily the saudis). Im telling you now even if the whole world muslim and kuffar is against or silent victory comes only by the permission of Allah. We are at the forefront towards our corrupt "muslim" leaders and countries. May Allah guide us all and unite us against the disbelievers. Amin
He is wrong about sheikh Albani RH. He was against the arrival or involvement of US army during Iraq-Kuwait episode. He disagreed with it . There is no obedience in disobedience to the creator. Making relationship with Israel is against the Quran so what kind of obedience you are talking about it . Look I follow Quran and sunnah but when it comes to political analysis, please be careful from the shayks of saudi arabia.
You are right bro. I have heard this from the recording that was also shared by his student. I believe one of the reasons why shaikh Al Albani left the Saudi was also because of this issue beside the jealousy of other knowledgable people at that time toward him.
lol to these madkhalies “leaders” only means gulf leaders. They’ll happily disobey any other Muslim leaders from other places. They were super happy when they sided with the British to overthrow the last Khalifa of the othaman empire in Turkey!
It's not the imaams that decide the ties , it's not the scholars that decide the relationship of a nation , but it's about the wisdom behind it. Wisdom us knowing that Human can never win shytaan and Humans are not ignorant like shytaan.
LA HAWLA WALAH QUWATA ILLAH BILLAH .... Hakimmiya and Rubbubiyah is for ALLAH SWT ALONE .... We hear and obey ONLY ALLAH SWT ALONE!!!! This guy has uttered words of KUFFR
Our Salafi ulema bin baz ibn uthaymen albani these men are not from the salaf they are khalaf very late khalaf who all died about 20 something years ago
May Allah guide you Im not a fan worshiping the ruler. But your comment shows that you like to be a secular free human. SUBHANNALLAH You are sick in your heart. May Allah guide all of us. Dont say ever something like that.
@@user-bk7nu1xn8mNo, he is not wrong, that implies injustice and god can never be unjust, hence implying Islam would be a false religion if that were the case
@masudsaleh5155 This is a false equivalence, in our religion, it is obligatory for men to be reliant upon their women for their sexual affairs and nothing else. Regarding financial independence, The religion did not forbid this, you are infecting the religion with Arabian culture. There is no comparison, what you are proposing has nothing to do with the religion, this is why you are trying to make failed comparisons because there is no evidence from the Quran and the Ahadith to forbid it.
I respected those shaikhs for their immense knowledge and akhlak. But I would say they would have different opinions if they saw what we are witnessing today.
@@-------....___ right i understand. Ahlul bid'aah hate anything to do with tawheed. Spubs are not ahlul sunnah. But shaykh madkhali is scholar of actual merit, he worked hard and taught many. Him, shaykh muqbil, fawzan, ruyhali, sahaymee, ubayd jabaree. These are people who studied and taught in the prophets masjid for decades. Who are your scholars?
@@AbuSawsan where are these scholars on the kufr happening today in KSA? I take the good from them, and leave the bad. Any Saudi scholar, never take anything relating to politics or leaders from them. Madkhali your shaykh allows khurooj when it is convenient. We all know he gives fatwas according to the whim of his masters. Just because they taught in prophet pbuh masjid doesn’t mean they are correct on everything. Look at the leading Imam Sudais from Mecca masjid. The less I say about him the better. We don’t blindly follow scholars. We follow Prophet PBUH and Sahabah.
@@AbuSawsan Or better yet. Show me, because you people love naming your scholars like it is a big achievement, you know, madkhali this, fawzan that, ruhaily this, mohammed that. Show me, where have these scholars spoken out against the kufr happening in KSA. Ibn Uthaymeen, Fawzan and Bin Baz were quite vocal before, calling out haram and kufr when the KSA leadership was 'half' muslim. Fawzan (I believe) said anyone who says shops are to stay open during prayer times is a kafir, and it is a question only a kafir would ask. Where is he now on this? You know very well attending bikini competitions is haram, but actually organizing it is kufr as you are legalizing something which is clear haram - replacing the law of hijab with bikinis being allowed. Where are the scholars on this? What about the alcohol shops being opened now. 'Allowing' alcohol shops to be open, even if it is only for diplomats or disbelievers, means you are legislating something against the word of Allah SWT. Where are the scholars? Just naming scholars won't help you. What happening in Palestine, Libya, Sudan, Yemen etc., where are the scholars? The scholars you named.
During the Persian Gulf War Ibn Bāz issued a fatwa allowing the deployment of non-Muslim troops on Saudi Arabian soil to defend the kingdom from the Iraqi army. Some noted that this was in contrast to his opinion in the 1940s, when he contradicted the government policy of allowing non-Muslims to be employed on Saudi soil.[50] However, according to The New York Times, his fatwa overruled more radical clerics.[49][51] In response to criticism, Ibn Baz condemned those who "whisper secretly in their meetings and record their poison over cassettes distributed to the people".[49] Another key issue was to allow the wearing of the cross by non-Muslim soldiers and the carrying of New Testaments into battle against other Muslims from the holiest land in Islam. This ruling shook Saudi society like an earthquake, and remains at the heart of many violent disputes Salafi jihadis have with the House of Saud till this day.[52] The radical cleric Abdullah el-Faisal ex-communicated (takfir) Ibn Baz, declaring him an apostate who died unrepentant.[53]
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There is no obedience in disobedience to Allah. Have they taking their scholars as lords besides Allah ??
Exactly
Salafism in a NUTSHELL.
@user-cx3vo3pe1u
Where in the statement, or in the original Ahadith, upon which the statement is based does it say "disobey Allah" has to be expressed and instructed explicitly ?
@@Abd.Al-Malik These people are typically the murji'. Their 'scholars' and 'rulers' can do all the kufr with their actions, but they remain muslims until they say 'we are kafir' or something silly like that.
@@Abd.Al-Malik Exactly.
Can someone explain to me why they're so hell bent on following rulers?? It's such a big deal for these guys, I can't get my head around, someone please explain!!
They made them gods! They get paid for it and get status!
@@Gintoki7yes like the jees Who made there rabbis as gods
Money brother
Actually, it is correct to follow ruler for stability and peace but here it became more of symbiotic relation, they get funding from ruler and in return they are propaganda machines for normalizing relations and watering down haram such as concert and Halloween.
They are harsh with muslims who pray with hand as hanafi madhab but totally infavour of zionist's method of dealing with hamas by killing innocents, they think its Palestinians who brought this calamity on themselves arab rulers have tried to make peace but these psychotic Palestinians want to fight, these views are totally inclined with average zionist genocidal maniac.
These wannabe salafi wahabis in the west are just donkeys. They just blind follow their wahabi sheikh's in Saudi and do whatever they spout.
“Oh you who believe (in this Qur’an), do not take (such) Jews and Christians as friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other. And whoever of you (Muslims) turn to them (with friendship and alliance) becomes, verily, one of them; behold, Allah does not guide such evildoers.”
(Qur’an, al-Maidah, 5:51)
I don't take those names as scholars, my scholar is Alnawawi and Ibn Kathir.
The pseudo-salafis want Muslims to believe that the scholars were all wrong until Muhammed Ibn Abdul Wahab came along.
he-lies-on-Al-Albani
Saudi did khurooj against their rulers of that time namely the Turkish Caliphate. They killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims amwith help from their newly found British friends. After defecting from Turkey they made this doctrine and propped up this ideology based on which their Salafi Scholars started to forbid even criticising the rulers. Product of pure irony!
And they were happy to see back of Morsi of Egypt and they don't like Erdogan
That’s why they prop up this false claim of always obeying the rulers
Because they know how
They gained power
By allying themselves with the kuffar against believers
*Ottoman Caliphate. But true comment
But now Muslims have to obey these khawrij rebels who are supervisors..
@azikazikaziktrue all the other arabs from UAE, Qatar, Jordan, Syria, Bahrain ext rebelled alongside the kuffar against the ottomans. So literally these madkhali khawrij want obedience to their khawrij rulers
“I am not sad if a man, woman or child from Chechnya dies, because they are shahids in sha Allah. And what saddens me greatly, I swear by Allah, is the silence of Islamic countries. By this I mean the rulers of these countries who had to cut off their ties with Russia in all areas. If they had done this, then she would have stopped and there would have been no foreshadowing of trouble for them. But unfortunately, Islamic countries, by this I mean their rulers, are silent and say nothing. This, I swear by Allah, makes me very sad. The young Islamic republic is doing this to it, but they are silent about it.”
Sheikh ibn Usaymin (رحمه الله)
This was said almost 30 years ago. Since then, nothing has changed with these “rulers”. If only for the worse.
Nox4i
Same thing happened in Bosnia during the genocide.
No one helped from the muslim countries, except Iran.
@@khairt1731there werent any official help but there still where mujaheedin from all over the muslim world who came to fight for bosnia.
Pakistan held lots of refugee camps, small arms shipments came and saudi supported some of the mujahideen (primarily the saudis).
Im telling you now even if the whole world muslim and kuffar is against or silent victory comes only by the permission of Allah. We are at the forefront towards our corrupt "muslim" leaders and countries.
May Allah guide us all and unite us against the disbelievers.
Amin
If dajal was the ruler then they will follow the ruler lol
أستغفر الله
Abu Ubaydah isnt the only 1 that almost left Islam because of the psuedo-salafis, who are in reality khawarij.
Bro madkhalis are the complete opposite of khawarij
@@AlasnaQthey are khawarij. 🤣
when kharijis come to ppwer, they'll try to find every way to stay there.
@@AlasnaQthey are harsh to the Muslim and soft to the kuffar. They definitely are the khawrij
He is wrong about sheikh Albani RH. He was against the arrival or involvement of US army during Iraq-Kuwait episode. He disagreed with it . There is no obedience in disobedience to the creator. Making relationship with Israel is against the Quran so what kind of obedience you are talking about it . Look I follow Quran and sunnah but when it comes to political analysis, please be careful from the shayks of saudi arabia.
You are right bro. I have heard this from the recording that was also shared by his student. I believe one of the reasons why shaikh Al Albani left the Saudi was also because of this issue beside the jealousy of other knowledgable people at that time toward him.
Wow. Atleast he found sense.
ameen 🤲
lol to these madkhalies “leaders” only means gulf leaders. They’ll happily disobey any other Muslim leaders from other places. They were super happy when they sided with the British to overthrow the last Khalifa of the othaman empire in Turkey!
وإذا خلوا الى شياطينهم قالوا إنا معكم
It's not the imaams that decide the ties , it's not the scholars that decide the relationship of a nation , but it's about the wisdom behind it. Wisdom us knowing that Human can never win shytaan and Humans are not ignorant like shytaan.
May Allah guide the madkhalis
لاحول ولاقوة الابالله ا😢😢
LA HAWLA WALAH QUWATA ILLAH BILLAH .... Hakimmiya and Rubbubiyah is for ALLAH SWT ALONE .... We hear and obey ONLY ALLAH SWT ALONE!!!!
This guy has uttered words of KUFFR
Our Salafi ulema bin baz ibn uthaymen albani these men are not from the salaf they are khalaf very late khalaf who all died about 20 something years ago
He changed his ways now. U can delete
This slavery to the rulers is idiotic. Honestly if it was the correct islam I rather be an atheist and believe in justice
May Allah guide you
Im not a fan worshiping the ruler.
But your comment shows that you like to be a secular free human. SUBHANNALLAH
You are sick in your heart. May Allah guide all of us.
Dont say ever something like that.
@@user-bk7nu1xn8mNo, he is not wrong, that implies injustice and god can never be unjust, hence implying Islam would be a false religion if that were the case
@masudsaleh5155
This is a false equivalence, in our religion, it is obligatory for men to be reliant upon their women for their sexual affairs and nothing else.
Regarding financial independence, The religion did not forbid this, you are infecting the religion with Arabian culture.
There is no comparison, what you are proposing has nothing to do with the religion, this is why you are trying to make failed comparisons because there is no evidence from the Quran and the Ahadith to forbid it.
@masudsaleh5155
I am not sure how your first comment is related to me? Not that I disagree...
Wallhi! You r mistaken
I respected those shaikhs for their immense knowledge and akhlak. But I would say they would have different opinions if they saw what we are witnessing today.
He lied about the scholars and misinformation. Those aren't the spub scholars they are the scholars of the sunnah.
sunnah of k afirs.
Scholars of the bootlickers? Yes you are right
@@-------....___ right i understand. Ahlul bid'aah hate anything to do with tawheed. Spubs are not ahlul sunnah. But shaykh madkhali is scholar of actual merit, he worked hard and taught many. Him, shaykh muqbil, fawzan, ruyhali, sahaymee, ubayd jabaree. These are people who studied and taught in the prophets masjid for decades. Who are your scholars?
@@AbuSawsan where are these scholars on the kufr happening today in KSA? I take the good from them, and leave the bad. Any Saudi scholar, never take anything relating to politics or leaders from them. Madkhali your shaykh allows khurooj when it is convenient. We all know he gives fatwas according to the whim of his masters. Just because they taught in prophet pbuh masjid doesn’t mean they are correct on everything. Look at the leading Imam Sudais from Mecca masjid. The less I say about him the better. We don’t blindly follow scholars. We follow Prophet PBUH and Sahabah.
@@AbuSawsan Or better yet. Show me, because you people love naming your scholars like it is a big achievement, you know, madkhali this, fawzan that, ruhaily this, mohammed that.
Show me, where have these scholars spoken out against the kufr happening in KSA. Ibn Uthaymeen, Fawzan and Bin Baz were quite vocal before, calling out haram and kufr when the KSA leadership was 'half' muslim. Fawzan (I believe) said anyone who says shops are to stay open during prayer times is a kafir, and it is a question only a kafir would ask. Where is he now on this?
You know very well attending bikini competitions is haram, but actually organizing it is kufr as you are legalizing something which is clear haram - replacing the law of hijab with bikinis being allowed. Where are the scholars on this? What about the alcohol shops being opened now. 'Allowing' alcohol shops to be open, even if it is only for diplomats or disbelievers, means you are legislating something against the word of Allah SWT. Where are the scholars?
Just naming scholars won't help you. What happening in Palestine, Libya, Sudan, Yemen etc., where are the scholars? The scholars you named.
During the Persian Gulf War Ibn Bāz issued a fatwa allowing the deployment of non-Muslim troops on Saudi Arabian soil to defend the kingdom from the Iraqi army. Some noted that this was in contrast to his opinion in the 1940s, when he contradicted the government policy of allowing non-Muslims to be employed on Saudi soil.[50] However, according to The New York Times, his fatwa overruled more radical clerics.[49][51] In response to criticism, Ibn Baz condemned those who "whisper secretly in their meetings and record their poison over cassettes distributed to the people".[49]
Another key issue was to allow the wearing of the cross by non-Muslim soldiers and the carrying of New Testaments into battle against other Muslims from the holiest land in Islam. This ruling shook Saudi society like an earthquake, and remains at the heart of many violent disputes Salafi jihadis have with the House of Saud till this day.[52]
The radical cleric Abdullah el-Faisal ex-communicated (takfir) Ibn Baz, declaring him an apostate who died unrepentant.[53]
Shaykh ibn Uqla رحمه الله gave a based Statement to this topic
@@إلياس2008 theres no excuses
They allied with kuffar
Against another kafir army
Shut up.
Okay dogs
they worship their rulers and scholars , they have no kufr bit taghut
😮🤭🤮
Misguidance by madkali
Let’s pray for Shamsi
It sounds like shirk.
Defected??
yes... lol now spubs will label him as a kh@raji
@@MuhammadAbdullah-kx3kn😂
This ideology is kuffur he used words that are used for Allah and his prophet for the fasiq ruler of a 3rd world country
Spubs goes against our fitra