Even More of the Worst Sponsors, Team Owners, & Track Promoters in NASCAR History

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
  • Where ever there is enough money, there are bound to be people willing to risk it all to take it for themselves. Whether its sketchy sponsors looking for free ad space, wall street hucksters trying to run off with a quick buck, or a team owner who is in way over their head, NASCAR has no shortage of liars thieves, and lawyers strewn all throughout their history.
    0:00 Andrew Murray
    3:08 Intro
    4:07 Big Daddy's BBQ Sauce
    6:52 Ginn Racing
    9:29 Red Bull Racing and Infiniti
    12:07 Brian Vickers and Sarah Kellen
    13:30 Ad - EJ's Pokeswap
    14:24 H2 Motorsports
    15:54 Angela's Motorsports
    #NASCAR #TheWorst
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    Music in order of appearance:
    Henry Rollins: Liar
    Architecture in Tokyo - ヒスイ MARBLE (ft. ULTRA ウルトラ)
    Super Smash Bros Melee Menu Theme
    ESPRIT - Summer Heat
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  • @TheCloudCreation
    @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +1978

    I appreciate that you picked up my story. As always, you killed it with this video. I just wish racing wasn't so political.
    EDIT: I really appreciate everyone's support. Unfortunately I don't have the time to reply to everyone. But I am doing okay now a days. I wish I could still race but it's just not in the cards for me. It is what it is and I try not to get hung up on it.

    • @InactiveChannel19272
      @InactiveChannel19272 2 года назад +130

      I’m sorry what happened to you in your racing career. But let me tell you that you did amazing in your racing career. I hope you have a wonderful life!

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +76

      @@InactiveChannel19272 😂 thanks man I appreciate it.

    • @KyoRedBladeZR1
      @KyoRedBladeZR1 2 года назад +30

      You really kicked ass out there Andrew!

    • @baconfootball3995
      @baconfootball3995 2 года назад +38

      It's a tradgey what happens to you.its just crazy to think that Alex bowmans dad Did that when bowman as always been a underdog

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +9

      @@KyoRedBladeZR1 😂 thanks man

  • @KigerStudios
    @KigerStudios 2 года назад +713

    The fact that this was released on the same day Alex Bowman won a cup race is both amazing and blood curdling.

    • @dennisbowen452
      @dennisbowen452 2 года назад

      yeah. I like alex but andrew deserved his shot too.

    • @VGF80
      @VGF80 Год назад +43

      No wonder Denny Hamlin called him a hack......

    • @hueginvieny7959
      @hueginvieny7959 Год назад +53

      His father is definitely a p.o.s taking away a opportunity from a kid

    • @endgamerplays
      @endgamerplays Год назад +25

      Was that why everyone was booing at Martinsville?

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Год назад +11

      @@endgamerplays yep. Thats the real reason i think.

  • @sbfcapnj
    @sbfcapnj 2 года назад +117

    Any young guy who bills himself as an "entrepreneur" in the state of Florida should immediately be suspected of fraud.

  • @mustpotato41
    @mustpotato41 2 года назад +769

    Big Daddy’s bbq sauce sounds like the perfect sponsor for Mike Harmon

  • @VonBlade
    @VonBlade 2 года назад +270

    "accidentally shoot herself in the back of the head, twice" is the line of the show. Excellent.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 2 года назад

      I understand that part of the video was tongue in cheek but Ghislaine Maxwell still being alive kind of undercuts the whole "Jeffrey Epstein was murdered" theory a little bit.
      (And FWIW it is possible for someone to shoot themselves in the head more than once. It's rare but it does happen.)

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 2 года назад

      You mean a double tap to the back of your head isnt how most people kill themselves 😱😱 oh my!

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily Год назад +2

      It was already great, and then he threw in "twice" and put it over the top.

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria 2 года назад +796

    Hilariously, Red Bull ran Ferraris this year in DTM, despite being competitors in F1

    • @yankees512417
      @yankees512417 2 года назад +101

      They no longer are sponsored by Infiniti and are supplied by Honda. Nissans direct competition

    • @jclips2098
      @jclips2098 2 года назад +73

      I would love to see slap cover the absolute shitstorm that was the DTM final this year…

    • @GOTMAXPOWER
      @GOTMAXPOWER 2 года назад +67

      On the subject of Red Bull, they are still employing Sebastien Buemi as their reserve driver for what is effectively the works Honda team at the same time he is a factory driver for Nissan in Formula E and races full-time for the works Toyota team in WEC. He is part of the biggest racing programmes for all 3 of the Japanese giants and none seem bothered by the others.

    • @jonathankraus9365
      @jonathankraus9365 2 года назад +13

      Monster Energy sponsors Kawasaki in Motocross and Yamaha in MotoGP

    • @afrozen10-02
      @afrozen10-02 2 года назад +31

      Not exactly a new thing. Red Bull’s sister F1 team, Toro Rosso (now called Alpha Tauri), ran Ferrari engines up until 2017 when they switched to Honda. It helped that the Team is based in Italy where they can work with Ferrari pretty well.

  • @LASTCARonBROCK
    @LASTCARonBROCK 2 года назад +207

    Thank you for the shout out, S1ap! I appreciate you taking the time to contribute your own narration to the Ginn video.

    • @S1apShoes
      @S1apShoes  2 года назад +26

      Any time! Thanks for the opportunity and the JD diecast!

    • @slowturtle11fan7
      @slowturtle11fan7 2 года назад +3

      Yooo

    • @tonywilson4713
      @tonywilson4713 2 года назад +8

      @@S1apShoes I love your channel and generally agree with everything you say, but the thing about an American kid never being accepted in Europe simply isn't true. Is it incredibly difficult? Absolutely, but its difficult for Australians, New Zealanders and every other kid who's not from Europe.
      I'm Australian and we watch our top kids fail all the time in Europe and some of them win championships only to see their team mates advance. The problem in Europe is NOT where kids are from its MONEY.
      Many years ago I had a boss who was into open wheel racing here in Australia and we discussed this. At one point years earlier he even went to America and drove a couple of Indy Lights races. Going from Australia to America is a monstrous leap in money. Going to Europe is an even bigger leap because of the costs. I once questioned him on that and he brought up the case of a young Australian and who was in go-karting. *This was 20 years ago* and the costs per weekend for top level karting back then could be $20,000. That's just for a weekend, not a season, just a weekend for a single cylinder go-kart. The boss had a British mechanic on the team and I asked him. He'd done F1 and Le Mans and he just laughed at me. He explained the biggest issue is the labor costs, transport costs, accommodation costs and track practice costs.
      So Andrew Murray's problem wasn't that he was American it was the lack of MONEY and if he couldn't afford NASCAR there's no way he could afford British Formula Ford let alone British Formula 3 or anything higher.
      Anyway
      Love the channel and can't wait to hear your explanation of that insanity at the LA Coliseum. In Australia we have this category called "Aussie Racing Cars" which is our version of American Legends 5/8 scale cars. That would have made sense in the Coliseum.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Год назад

      @@S1apShoes S1apSho0es, have u watched Nijigasaki Anime Season 2 a few months ago?

  • @Gage_Brumley
    @Gage_Brumley 2 года назад +121

    Big Daddy's BBQ is the most Mike Harmon sponsor I have ever seen

  • @TheBrainSpecialist
    @TheBrainSpecialist 2 года назад +665

    Hey Andrew, if you're reading this, I hope you're having a good one.
    I used to race against Nick Latifi in karts, never had the talent to be anywhere close to him, but I knew a few guys who were. One had a very similar story to you, family sold everything to put him into lower formula in Britain, sponsor backed out, and he was forced to move into a slightly rundown old schoolhouse out in the countryside.
    Luckily the legalization of marijuana helped his family get back on their feet, but for a good while, it was really rough for them. I hope you and yours were able to get back on your feet.

    • @sdsd2e2321
      @sdsd2e2321 2 года назад +7

      They started growing and selling weed?

    • @TheBrainSpecialist
      @TheBrainSpecialist 2 года назад +57

      @@sdsd2e2321 yep, got in on the ground floor and started a weed farm pretty much as soon as it was legal to do so, happened to know a guy who started a chain of dispensaries in Toronto

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +103

      Ya the world of racing is a secret hive of scum and villainy 😂. But ya I'm doing fine now a days, just took a few years. I'm glad Nick also got back on his feet it's brutal to dedicate your entire childhood to something you love to have it ripped away by things you don't even fully understand or control.

    • @TheBrainSpecialist
      @TheBrainSpecialist 2 года назад +25

      @@TheCloudCreation it wasn't Nick, Nick's the F1 driver we raced against

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +29

      @@TheBrainSpecialist oh 😂 I read that wrong my bad.

  • @bonafide9781
    @bonafide9781 2 года назад +247

    I think Vice should do a series on NASCAR called “Dark Side of the Track” like they’re doing with WWE on “Dark Side of the Ring”.

    • @OrlandoLionFanClub
      @OrlandoLionFanClub 2 года назад +5

      Would be perfect

    • @jefferyfinguy1957
      @jefferyfinguy1957 2 года назад +34

      You really can do this with NASCAR, Indycar, F1, a whole bevy of motorsports. It really has a lot of stuff that really needs to be seen.

    • @fullweezy3553
      @fullweezy3553 2 года назад +17

      @@jefferyfinguy1957 yeah that's actually a good idea since that dark side of football and dark side of the 90s flopped racing is a bit more compiling I think

    • @Cyclone-od7ih
      @Cyclone-od7ih 2 года назад +8

      Call it "Out in the Marbles"

    • @TripleAlfafa
      @TripleAlfafa 2 года назад +13

      The story of Andrea Moda F1 is stupid enough to be worth a Pretty Good video. That team had everything go wrong and became infamous as the worst attempt at an F1 team that actually managed to get a car on the grid.

  • @Scourgemaster193
    @Scourgemaster193 2 года назад +183

    When I was in High School, Andrew Murray had come to my Driver's Ed class one day. Being really the only NASCAR fan in Temecula I was excited and had a great chat with Andrew and wished him the best with his career. I just recently wondered what happened to him, and now I'm upset knowing that his career was ruined by Alex Bowman's dad. While I'm still excited that Hailie Deegan, also from Temecula, is running in NASCAR I wish that Andrew had gotten a chance to live his dream of being a racing driver.

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +27

      Hey man how's it going. What school did you go to?

    • @Scourgemaster193
      @Scourgemaster193 2 года назад +24

      ​@@TheCloudCreation I went to Temecula Valley, it was my Senior year in 2011. After receiving my associate degree from Mt. San Jacinto college in 2015, I then moved to Florida.

    • @TheCloudCreation
      @TheCloudCreation 2 года назад +26

      @@Scourgemaster193 Oh ok very cool. Ya I remember giving a talk at TVHS. Hope everything is doing well in Florida!

    • @RJLightning68
      @RJLightning68 2 года назад +2

      did you ever know Nolan Sykes??

  • @KyoRedBladeZR1
    @KyoRedBladeZR1 2 года назад +344

    So Alex Bowman's dad snubbed Andrew's (not me) dream of going pro. That's really messed up.

    • @CraftageNate
      @CraftageNate 2 года назад +11

      Hey, that's just politics.

    • @Nc3three
      @Nc3three 2 года назад +113

      @@CraftageNate doesn’t change the fact that what he did was awful.

    • @keithbusch4014
      @keithbusch4014 2 года назад +73

      Alex Bowman was getting his ass busted by Andrew every race, his daddy didn't like that. Money rules racing not talent its all who suckin who, completely bullshit.

    • @CraftageNate
      @CraftageNate 2 года назад +3

      @@Nc3three Never said it didn't.

    • @davevq
      @davevq 2 года назад +45

      If this is indeed true, its really shitty. Funny thing is, I don't think Alex Bowman will ever be championship caliber, he'll win a few races here and there, but end up a bust in the end.

  • @SamPanamaOfficial
    @SamPanamaOfficial 2 года назад +129

    This is one of my favorite series. Glad you could managed to work up another one.

  • @ThePhil74
    @ThePhil74 2 года назад +12

    "....if she ever decides to start talking, and doesn't accidentally shoot herself in the back of the head twice" lol! loved that line

  • @QueenVoodo0
    @QueenVoodo0 2 года назад +194

    I wish we could get Andrew Murray back racing
    Its probably too late, but I wish we could do something

    • @knightofthenine3121
      @knightofthenine3121 2 года назад +13

      Bruno Senna is coming back good, and he quit racing after Ayrton died.

    • @FallingPicturesProductions
      @FallingPicturesProductions 2 года назад +15

      Considering he had road course experience in Europe, he'd be just the kind of guy who would be interesting to see get a ride in a small slow category car for the 24hrs of Nurburgring.

    • @highlinemedia7116
      @highlinemedia7116 2 года назад +6

      We could get him into a good iracing league to start

    • @borismcfinnigan3430
      @borismcfinnigan3430 2 года назад +7

      @@knightofthenine3121 Umm what? Bruno Senna was 10 years old when Ayrton died, he did not even start racing cars until almost a decade after Senna died....

    • @jaredkinneyjr
      @jaredkinneyjr 2 года назад +7

      It could be a "true & real" Days of Thunder type redemption story. One of the best racecar drivers in the world gets kicked out of racing only to return 10yrs later to mow down Rusty Wheeler & crew.....

  • @JJfan48
    @JJfan48 2 года назад +163

    Hey Slap, I used to work for JGL Racing, I was one of their designers and marketing reps, I can tell you a lot of dirt about this team. Would fit well. I got $300 for 2+ years of work, a failed contract obligation and one of their owners died and then the team folded, one of their sponsors wasn't actually a sponsor. I ended up working with an "owner" who wasn't actually an owner but a sponsor pretending to the owner. Its interesting. Let me know.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt 2 года назад +18

      And that was the “simple” portion of the team’s history, once the team was well established, at the outset there was that whole entanglement with Carl Long, Matt Carter etc.
      I remember JGL as the team that fielded the TRD Young Guns car and the team that got JJ Yeley his last Xfinity pole. Also for Eric McClure quitting in the middle of the season to take his Hefty dollars back to TriStar.

    • @JJfan48
      @JJfan48 2 года назад +9

      @@TheLocalLt the pole was mistake too
      They were only team to run qualifying trim in final practice and it rained out. So he got the pole by default.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt 2 года назад +7

      @@JJfan48 I’m sure JJ will take it. I hope he was good to work with, always has come off as a super likeable guy, but you never know what someone’s like when the cameras go off

    • @davidrice3337
      @davidrice3337 2 года назад +1

      @@TheLocalLt so true

    • @JJfan48
      @JJfan48 Год назад +4

      @@TheLocalLt JJ was fantastic, met him in person after the first season at the Texas 28 bar they had on his car. Dude is down to earth and we just talked about his 18 days for like an hour.

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 2 года назад +16

    The last time I was this early, TG Sheppard was rumored to be starting a NASCAR team!

  • @spaghettios8768
    @spaghettios8768 2 года назад +157

    Yay slapshoes has blessed us once again

  • @watchingcarsdriveonovals
    @watchingcarsdriveonovals 2 года назад +37

    My brother once had a similar sponsorship with one company called "Brewington Electric" (In which they sponsored my local wingless sprint car series and sponsored a few cars), The owner of the company promised that they would provide money for fuel, tires, car parts, ect; but at the end of the season my brother realized that the owner didn't even pay him a single penny, luckily my brother didn't loose everything and is still racing because a different company actually payed for stuff and is still sponsoring my brother's race-car.

  • @CarlCrisp
    @CarlCrisp 2 года назад +15

    Thanks for plugging Brock Beard. He’s not a youtuber, he’s a historian of this sport. Go give him a look. Great guy.

  • @DennyDeliversYT
    @DennyDeliversYT 2 года назад +33

    4:52 _Big Daddy was not on the up and up…_
    yep… *S1ap’s gonna down bad again*

    • @FORNICATOR1981
      @FORNICATOR1981 2 года назад

      Denny needs his diapers delivered asap!

    • @technoturnovers7072
      @technoturnovers7072 2 года назад +1

      honestly, it fucking sucks how big daddy's *themselves* got screwed by their brokerage firm, but they were the ones to take all the hurt from the public because they were ultimately the ones whose names were on the unpaid sponsorship deals

  • @outlawtaylor3
    @outlawtaylor3 2 года назад +90

    I feel Andrew’s pain to an extent. I couldn’t get a sponsor no matter how hard I tried or how many tracks I dominated, wins, or championships. So I never got enough push to be able to even make it to the k&n series. In the end I ended up getting screwed over by most tracks. Due to me showing up and beating the cheating locals.

    • @SS-kz7td
      @SS-kz7td 2 года назад +7

      That sucks. How did they cheat?

  • @clipobserver
    @clipobserver 2 года назад +24

    I feel bad for Andrew and the Judge who married Angela. His career ended on accusations. A real investigation should have taken place.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 2 года назад +9

      Right. You have to take accusations of domestic violence seriously but that doesn't mean "treat them as 100% truth" without investigating. That she was a bigamist should have been a warning sign that her credibility wasn't all that great.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv 2 года назад +8

      @@BiggieTrismegistus case in point, Johnny Depp

  • @scullystie4389
    @scullystie4389 2 года назад +14

    16:30 Lmao I grew up a couple miles away from the Candy Cat 😂 the furry art on the side of the building always weirded me out when I drove by it

  • @fink94
    @fink94 2 года назад +26

    Big ups for taking the time to talk about Andrew Murray. I can't imagine how hard it must be for him to be forced to abandon a raging career like that

  • @Pabig93
    @Pabig93 2 года назад +13

    0:43 "It became apparent that an American kid would never be accepted into the European market."
    Alexander Rossi and Conor Daly might disagree with that.

    • @clipobserver
      @clipobserver Год назад +2

      America does have Logan Sargeant and Jak Crawford among others. Sargeant was announced to get the Williams seat for next season.

  • @mrterp04
    @mrterp04 2 года назад +14

    The story of Angela Harkness would make a wild episode of 30 for 30

  • @frankmagnotto
    @frankmagnotto 2 года назад +19

    Man.. poor Andrew. That sucks man, such a sad story, especially for a father and son who both worked so hard to realize that dream.. hate to hear that.

  • @KyleB_RCR8
    @KyleB_RCR8 Год назад +5

    Love that you used Henry Rollins Band “LIAR” as the intro music to these videos, especially as an old punk rocker. Thanks for the fitting tribute.

  • @jpc0309
    @jpc0309 2 года назад +28

    It really sucks for H2 Motorsports cause they actually looked like they could’ve been a competitive team in 2020

  • @the8jrfan
    @the8jrfan 2 года назад +46

    That Brain Vickers one is absolutely shocking.

    • @arthuralford
      @arthuralford 2 года назад +19

      Vickers retired from racing partially due to health issues with blood clots; his wife's possible involvement in the Epstein case gave him an imperative to go for a lower media profile

    • @johnpublic7796
      @johnpublic7796 2 года назад +4

      Look into Rick Hendrick and his ties to Epstein and Bill Clinton.

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 2 года назад

      @@johnpublic7796 how did Epstein get his money again it seems like every rich person is connected to him in some way

    • @BlueSpiceSpace
      @BlueSpiceSpace 2 года назад +1

      @@antoniestrada1972 He was Leslie Wexner's "Financial Advisor" despite having no qualifications aside from being his buddy. Wexner made *his* money from Victoria's Secret

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 2 года назад +2

      @@BlueSpiceSpace man how can i become a billionaires Financial Advisor without having any qualifications

  • @cudwieser3952
    @cudwieser3952 2 года назад +104

    Politics ruins everything. :D If you're interested in more general Bullshittery, there are a hell of a lot stories in other sports like F1, especially early 90's (Moda being about the biggest) that might amuse you.

    • @willypro4949
      @willypro4949 2 года назад +4

      Cries in Luca Badoer

    • @yoshikempenaers8621
      @yoshikempenaers8621 2 года назад +14

      And a real-life Nigerian Prince with Arrows in 1999!

    • @jamesbraun9842
      @jamesbraun9842 2 года назад +10

      You should suggest that to Black Flags Matter. He does all types of racing slap is mostly limited to Nascar.

    • @simon-8660
      @simon-8660 2 года назад +2

      That's been done by Josh Revell and other F1 channels so slap would just be repeating facts from a series he is less interested in.

    • @cudwieser3952
      @cudwieser3952 2 года назад +2

      @@jamesbraun9842 I know Slap is, which is more reason to suggest it here if only to get a nascar perspective on other formats, not to mention little excursions can give more respect for what's true to your heart.

  • @gothard5
    @gothard5 2 года назад +12

    I always wondered whatever happened to Brian Vickers. I honestly had no idea about all that. I hope his blood clot issues are under control.

  • @racdude01
    @racdude01 Год назад +4

    The absolute irony that she ended up with the name Angela Harkness which is so close to being Agatha Harkness the dark witch from Marvel comics is simply perfect

  • @codypk5111
    @codypk5111 2 года назад +6

    Ironically, the Red Bull thing has more to do with the fact that the ceo of Renault was also the ceo of Nissan at the time, and Renault provided the engines to Red Bull that kept them winning.

    • @codypk5111
      @codypk5111 2 года назад +1

      Carlos Ghosn. He’s on the run from the Japanese authorities for like tax evasion or something, after being ousted from Nissan by the board, comprised mostly of japanese folks.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv 2 года назад +2

      and now said CEO is on the run from the japanease justice system, and an internationally wanted fugitive.
      He went to Lebanon, while he is, I think, in danger of being sent back to japan, if they reach an agreement. If he comes to Brazil (he was born here and has cititzenship), he is free because we do not extradite our citizens to other countries

  • @cunever
    @cunever 2 года назад +32

    As usual, I’m not in the least bit sorry to have watched this: truly great reporting, some scathing quips, all telling of profound research and deep knowledge.

  • @lightbringer502
    @lightbringer502 Год назад +3

    "That video is FORTY MINUTES long"
    Me over here watching MauLer's 6 hour Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness review...

  • @jabrown
    @jabrown 2 года назад +5

    That's funny, about 10 years ago I had a fantasy stock car series in which there was a team named "Brian Vickers and his Crew of Rogues" (featuring, naturally, Brian Vickers in the orphaned ex-Red Bull #83 (this was before BK Racing was a thing, I guess)). At the time I had no idea how accurate that actually was...

  • @Scrapyard24c
    @Scrapyard24c 2 года назад +5

    I got a feeling that Motorsport Games will be a big focal point of the next installment of this series.

  • @austinhiggins4645
    @austinhiggins4645 2 года назад +117

    It's sad that it does not matter how talented you are. All it takes to end a career is sponsorship. It's sad to say that we missed the next dale Sr the next Jeff Gordon the next jimmie Johnson. All because of sponsorship. Even drivers racing today are currently losing there careers such as zane Smith and Matty D do to not enough sponsorship. I am glad guys like William Byron kyle Larson Sheldon creed. Are able to make it to top teir teams just with there talent alone even with low funding compare to others

    • @markholroyde9412
      @markholroyde9412 2 года назад +2

      Well they should all take a fkn paycut then, someone else paying paying folk to do a "hobby" never lasts.

    • @austinhiggins4645
      @austinhiggins4645 2 года назад +18

      @@markholroyde9412 there is a difference between a hobby and and a career. This is not a contract extension to stay with a team. You can't take a pay cut. The sponsers are paying you to be on the car you are not paying them to be on the car. So how can you take a pay cut

    • @dylanzrim3635
      @dylanzrim3635 2 года назад +1

      Jordan would be nothing without nike

    • @markholroyde9412
      @markholroyde9412 2 года назад +1

      @@austinhiggins4645 You have no fkn clue how the "sponsorship" works, you may have "on paper"..... but not in real life.

    • @austinhiggins4645
      @austinhiggins4645 2 года назад +4

      @@markholroyde9412 talk about projection

  • @Daniel_95
    @Daniel_95 2 года назад +7

    This is probably one of my favorite RUclips NASCAR series. It shines a lot on a part of the sport that doenst really get discussed. Many people have gotten screwed over in NASCAR and everyone should know how it happened so hopefully it doesnt happen again.

  • @SantanaTvhog10
    @SantanaTvhog10 4 месяца назад +2

    15:57
    The fact that Angela Motorsports was almost immortalized in Nascar Thunder 2004 is otherworldly.

  • @karfsma778
    @karfsma778 2 года назад +6

    Mentioning the Circuit City thing just reminded me of the mid-late 90s Circuit City car and the fact that that Hut Stricklin existed. So, uh. That happened.

  • @Riggsfan99
    @Riggsfan99 2 года назад +6

    Name a better duo than a company named Big Daddy and Mike Harmon

  • @GoUSA111
    @GoUSA111 2 года назад +13

    S1ap.. I still contend your content is 100x more watchable, enjoyable, thought provoking and educational than all of the 'motorsports' mainstream media combined. Keep up the good work; it helps an old soul continue to enjoy racing.

  • @SteelHorseLive
    @SteelHorseLive 2 года назад +2

    I remember showing up to South Boston Speedway and seeing it rebranded to "Big Daddy's South Boston Speedway" for what seems like less than a full season. Those guys really were trying to get into everything.

  • @TsukiCondor
    @TsukiCondor 2 года назад +23

    After hearing Andrews story makes me wanna give the dude a hug

  • @zerodos_02
    @zerodos_02 2 года назад +8

    Ah Bobby Ginn, the modern day version of JD Stacy. A paper billionaire who isn't actually as wealthy as he thinks he is...
    Red Bull was honestly just a bad corporate plan. They thought it'd be easier and they'd sunk too much in F1. Once Red Bull realized their market share in the US effectively never moved, cutting the NASCAR team was easy.

  • @Jonathan_Camps
    @Jonathan_Camps 2 года назад +10

    13:23 *That killed me* 😂

  • @mollybaumann415
    @mollybaumann415 2 года назад +2

    S1ap might be the only guy with the crossover audience for NASCAR content and a Pokemon card dealer sponsorship. And he's definitely the only guy with the sense of humor to run an oddball sponsor on this particular type of video.

  • @GoredonTheDestroyer
    @GoredonTheDestroyer 2 года назад +4

    I can't wait for the thrilling continuation of this series - Yet More of the Worst Sponsors, Team Owners and Track Promoters in NASCAR History

  • @nicholmansgarage3501
    @nicholmansgarage3501 2 года назад +15

    Love the Liars, Thieves, and Lawyers series!

  • @Acj3006
    @Acj3006 2 года назад +3

    6:59 I was fully expecting you to say Rick Ware Racing lmao

  • @rustyshackelford3299
    @rustyshackelford3299 2 года назад +7

    I mean EJs PokeStop has never backed out on a race team... So they must be the best sponsor

  • @spiderfam5036
    @spiderfam5036 6 месяцев назад +2

    “And full disclosure” u just brought me back to The Addams Family which I have been in twice and loved it both times. So thank you for that

  • @ashleycrane415
    @ashleycrane415 2 года назад +3

    One of the things i love about NASCAR is that, on track, off track, in the hauler or the boardroom; you have no idea what's going to happen next.

  • @zerodos_02
    @zerodos_02 2 года назад +4

    I love this series, it's a shame there's so much of this that's happened and sadly, there will always be more on the other side. Thanks for doing the digging, I had completely forgotten the 1999 Big Daddy controversy. Look forward to the next edition!

  • @TanDawg58
    @TanDawg58 2 года назад +2

    Big Daddy: You've got a sponsorship, you get a sponsorship, everyone gets a sponsorship,
    but Nooooooo Money

  • @1forallful
    @1forallful 2 года назад +5

    I feel for you, Andrew! As well as everyone else who has been screwed over by bad folks and sponsorship deals!

  • @BiggieTrismegistus
    @BiggieTrismegistus 2 года назад +3

    I'd never heard that Angela Harkness story before. And I thought F1 had some shady team owners...

  • @notTalladegasuperspeedway
    @notTalladegasuperspeedway 2 года назад +9

    you have the best voice for a nascar youtuber
    one question:when is the next s1ap on location?

  • @richhood9934
    @richhood9934 2 месяца назад +2

    The stupidest thing about the Ginn Racing fustercluck is, how in the heck did some huckster manage to convince a big-name company like Waste Management, not to mention the mighty United States Army, to half-ass "sponsor" a racecar, and then those companies/entities would just back out last minute, and a car would have to be wrapped in a default Ginn scheme. I get that these car owners can be total idiots, but you also have to ask why the hell major companies wouldn't do their due diligence as far as researching a potential business partner/sponsorship and marketing opportunity. Crazy, man!!

  • @MilesModelWorks
    @MilesModelWorks 3 месяца назад +2

    Hey Slapshoes, I have an interesting story. My grampy used to own a land surveying company, and used to sponser some local racer in the 70s-80s. I don't remember the name of the driver unfortunately. He quit sponsoring the car, because the driver got into a fight, put somebody into the hospital, and went to jail.

  • @shprungus
    @shprungus 2 года назад +11

    Lord S1ap has graced us with his presence once more

  • @michaelhall736
    @michaelhall736 2 года назад +8

    I'm sorry that happened to you, Andrew. I do hope that you will be able to race again sometime. You're still young and have so much potential.

  • @mathewfitzpatrick5645
    @mathewfitzpatrick5645 Год назад +2

    Maxwell? Interior design? Um, Wayfarer furniture? Ooh boy, that doesn't sound good.

  • @glenenthusiast
    @glenenthusiast 2 года назад +4

    If I was EJ, I’d change the logo. Nintendo is SO protective about their stuff and I don’t wanna see any legal troubles!! Stay aware!!

  • @AEMoreira81
    @AEMoreira81 2 года назад +3

    The s**tstorm that was the 03 (the Darkness of Harkness) cold be an episode in itself!

  • @berke2336
    @berke2336 2 года назад +4

    I miss the commentators letting me know how the iconic Dick Trickle was doing in each race... even if he was last almost every time

  • @bhumiriady
    @bhumiriady 2 года назад +30

    This video is a blast to watch!
    Been waiting for another installment of this series and it's well worth the wait.^^

    • @thesfdoctor3603
      @thesfdoctor3603 2 года назад +1

      Love the Rimi profile picture

    • @bhumiriady
      @bhumiriady 2 года назад +1

      @@thesfdoctor3603 Thanks a lot! (^_-)v

  • @Estolcles
    @Estolcles 2 года назад +2

    Love the Internet Historian reference with Matty D and Christopher Bell and the 95 car.
    "Accidentally shoot herself in the back of the head twice"..... Ok, now I'm on the floor laughing.

  • @jingjangchong5426
    @jingjangchong5426 2 года назад +3

    Everyone talking about Andrew, like that Brian Vickers story was never said. "They now run a NEW YORK INTERIOR DECORATING SHOP" .... what!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!

  • @joshuafarmer3467
    @joshuafarmer3467 2 года назад +5

    The Andrew Murray story disgusts me, but I am glad you make these videos because it let's all these internet addicted kiddos know that NASCAR is NOT easy. I wished some of the giant billionaires would sponsor cars. I mean, like, if I had 100 billion bucks I'd damn well invest 100 million or something into something that is exciting. I mean, heck, I'd probably want to try. The thing about Bobby Ginn is that he wasn't actually a REAL billionaire.

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 2 года назад +2

    No one:
    Red Bull: "fine, I'll do it myself"

  • @gerdoner1860
    @gerdoner1860 2 года назад +2

    Perfect timing, was just re-watching the older videos of this series today. As someone who watched NASCAR races on and off in his youth 10-20 years ago (if Eurosport showed them, and then there was the damned time difference), I hear a lot of stories for the first time... and these are some wild stories :D Keep up the good work.

  • @trueklear8616
    @trueklear8616 2 года назад +4

    So never hook up with a stripper, never get involved with political figures, never get paid in stocks, make sure the sponsors got the money on the spot, make sure you're sponsors won't flake out, make sure you're team is in it for the long shot, and never trust a billionaire to pay for you're racing

  • @ssisnake
    @ssisnake 2 года назад +4

    i worked for mercury as a tpa and they refused to raise what they paid us so we dropped them as a client theyre cheap bastards and an awful insurance company

  • @biggallcaps
    @biggallcaps Год назад +2

    The next entry in this series should include Bang! Racing from the early 00s truck racing. This story includes Toyotas entry to NASCAR, Larry McReynolds, and Travis Kvapil. And no, it didn't end well

  • @johnroberts2905
    @johnroberts2905 2 года назад +3

    Having just watched a Ghislane Maxwell documentary I figured I'd watch something more fun before hitting the sack. New Slapshoes vid, that'll do I thought....
    Then halfway in ... wham bam ... karma kicks me in the nuts with the Brian Vickers connection. LOL.
    🤣

  • @GreatCdn59
    @GreatCdn59 2 года назад +3

    totally adding "fustercluck" to my vocabulary lol

  • @theNewTomSawyer
    @theNewTomSawyer 2 года назад +3

    One other twist to the Red Bull Infiniti situation is that Renault & Nissan are in a strategic partnership. The Infiniti branding was the only luxury car mark that Renault had access to, hence put it on the Red Bull while Renault's own entries carried the main French marks name. Now once Red Bull moved to Honda, and Nissan to Formula E (though just sponsoring DAMS) its changed its F1 team to Alpine, its own sports luxury mark that it recently revived.
    Not to say anything you said was untrue, just I think it was the French dollars and the fact that the Infiniti sponsorship grew heavily, becoming a title sponsor in 2013. Ironic given the falling out the two had just few years later.

    • @stake-harley
      @stake-harley 2 года назад +1

      That Renault team was Lotus during the Red Bull infiniti years tho, as Renault was just an engine supplier then.

  • @samuelgoodman2825
    @samuelgoodman2825 2 года назад +2

    Kudos to you for bringing up the Maxwell connection

  • @OkieDokieSmokie
    @OkieDokieSmokie Год назад +2

    The fact Mr Ginn hadn’t made it one season and was thinking of a 4th car is…stunning

  • @Battlemage15
    @Battlemage15 2 года назад +5

    Odd sponsor, but get paid S1ap
    Also
    S1ap: "I warning you, the video about Ginn is 40 minutes long."
    Me: "Awesome, I like a good story."
    16:32 Oh hell, a Furry Strip Club.

  • @88misfithatch
    @88misfithatch 2 года назад +3

    It's only fitting you have Rollins band liar as the intro song. 👍

  • @starbit5065
    @starbit5065 2 года назад +50

    Leave it to S1apSh0es and EmpLemon for making such entertaining and fascinating videos about a sport that I otherwise would have little interest in

  • @AdzSONLINE
    @AdzSONLINE 2 года назад +2

    Nissan vs Toyota vs Honda is a massive competitive rivalry tbf. Totally makes sense they wouldn't like RB using Toyotas

  • @gabewood983
    @gabewood983 Год назад +2

    From what I hear, the whole Red Bull NASCAR deal was Red Bull financiers saying, “5 years, and if you don’t win the championship we’re done”

    • @xavierjuno4572
      @xavierjuno4572 2 месяца назад

      Now that's just unrealistic on Red bulls part

  • @northwestrider369
    @northwestrider369 2 года назад +4

    The one thing you did get wrong for the Red Bull part is that although infinity is the luxury brand sharing Nissan parts. Nissan at the time was owned by Renault. That’s why on the side of the F1 car it has Infinity and Renault.

    • @Tittymaster
      @Tittymaster 2 года назад

      Nissan and Renault have been in an alliance since 1999, but still are separate companies, Renault does not fully own them (only 43.4 %, while Nissan owns 15 % of Renault).

  • @Jonathan_Camps
    @Jonathan_Camps 2 года назад +8

    I thought I was seeing things when this dropped. Can’t wait to watch!

  • @joelcook4140
    @joelcook4140 2 года назад +1

    This is one of the few times I've ever seen a video advertisement/sponsor I like simply because your supporting your real life friends small business, it's both very Nascar culture and a little Wayne's world to be supported by such a small outfit but truly awesome, best of luck to ej's pokeswap and good on slapshoes

  • @highoctanecards
    @highoctanecards 2 года назад +5

    As always great content. I really enjoy this particular series. I don't remember if they were in your previous videos a couple of shady owners I'd like to see more of are:
    Eric Freedlander and Sam Mcmahon III.
    A couple of sponsors that had shady actions also were:
    Tuf-Lon (Bobby Allison 1981)
    Aero Exhaust (Scott Wimmer 2005ish)
    I'm sure there is plenty more. Those just are off the top of my head.
    Great work!

    • @thomasrowan4191
      @thomasrowan4191 Год назад

      Crypto and President who shall not be named.

  • @mustpotato41
    @mustpotato41 2 года назад +8

    Every day is a good day when S1ap uploads

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 2 года назад +6

    Imagine having to Google to see if your sponsor is actually real

  • @Jeyrod
    @Jeyrod 2 года назад +2

    Been waiting on this one. This would easily become a series for you

  • @ludroalvarado9922
    @ludroalvarado9922 2 года назад +3

    Funnily enough i had just finished going down the rabbit hole known as this guy's channel, and boom. New upload. Another solid video 👌

  • @TheAbigailDee
    @TheAbigailDee 2 года назад +3

    Just back here to say how much I love your content, even though your videos actually are what got me to start looking at races! Thank you for the amazing videos!

  • @LessGo7921
    @LessGo7921 2 года назад +8

    Still upset about the H2 collapse cuz that 28 was maybe the best Xfinity livery of the decade. Def the best that season
    Edit: I’m highly worried about Vickers. I wonder if he is being held hostage and forced to stay quiet by his wife

  • @MrMann3
    @MrMann3 3 месяца назад +1

    Got a Nissan commercial during the Red Bull Racing part of the video.

  • @leifopstad2972
    @leifopstad2972 2 года назад +5

    After watching these 3 videos, as well as several videos by UrinatingTree, I can confirm once again the miserly cheap people are the absolute worst