Ludwig XII: Where the hell is Vossenberg? Looting a heretical shrine to Sigmar?! You have my elementalist wizards teleporting your men at 24hrs a day, how exactly is that supposed to secure my claim on the Empire?! ....I paid you a small fortune...
Any mark is good. There are so many things in old world that people use regularly with one or more of the following ws2/4/5, str 3-5 (t4 matters) toughness 3-5 (s4 matters) i3/4 (i4 matters).
@janehrahan5116 of course stat lines matter and chaos warriors have fantastic stats lines for line infantry but that is reflected in points. So when I spend on warriors I want them to be tanky that's why I love getting a nurgle sorcerer in there to give them fleshy abundance.
You can’t march backwards ‘Whilst marching a unit can wheel to change direction, but cannot perform any other manoeuvres’. Move backwards is a manoeuvre. Also re discussion on flagellants, versus the normal hand weapons they won’t get the ward save due to ensorcelled weapons.
this was a really good batrep mordian. i came here for the guard but im an old empire/chaos fantasy fan from the early 90s in my childhood and actually the old world stuff has really caught me. i prefer watching this game and this is one of the few channels where i feel like ur playing the game properly not just mindlessly pushing models at each other. the quality of the actual gameplay for old world on this channel is the best out there m8, id love to see more like this, trying out different lists, seeing different ideas. very cool m8.
1:08:30 drilled discussion. Even with drilled, the charge arc is decided by the units facing at the start of the turn, not post-drilled. If that makes sense..
@@rafjord1721 true, BUT the drilled unit could redress ranks when giving ground from the spell, and then have a wider front that way. FAQ confirmed this
also, can't redress ranks only towards one side since your command is obligued to be on the center and the rulebook only lets you reposition them when you reform
What?? WHAT?!?! I’ve been dyyyyyying for good OW content but I get my servants of the dark gods??? MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!! ⚔️🔥 Tzeentch’s disciple since 1990, you’ve made a Canuck geezer happy this weekend!
Good to see you at Element Games today, I did mean to pop over to say hello and tell you how much I enjoy watching the channel. I never did so I'll do it now instead! I also think I have one of your dice, it was left with my stuff at the end. Let me know if you want it back! Hope you had a good day man and please keep doing what you're doing with Old World!
Really enjoyed this. There’s only a few good old world batrep channels out there and a lot of them have either stopped or paused them. Love the narrative army compositions too!
42:25 Frenzied units just have to declare a charge. There is nothing forcing them to charge the nearest enemy unit. 45:00 A model can only make one shooting attack. The breath weapon is a shooting attack as cleared up by the faq. 1:58:00 Check Controlling Special Feature. If 2 eligible units are within 6", the CLOSEST unit controls the feature. Sorry, but I think the chaos won this one... 😂
WRT to 'a model can only make one shooting attack' are you able to provide a reference to that? The closest thing I could see was "A can shoot only once per Shooting phase, and models can make only one shooting attack (the number of Attacks a model has does not affect the number of shots it can make)."
Was really excited to see that chaos chosen dual axe frothing khorne berserkers try and chop through these fat bricks of state troops! I feel propper teased and bamboozled for over 2h with no satisfying conclusion. But great armies and great plays. Hope to see more battlereports with these kind of lists.
Great report! Man, it's brutal watching those Chaos fellows slog so far up the board and get denied over and over. Did they have to deploy so far back? It seems like Chaos infantry will want to deploy as far forward as possible. It's like some Napoleonic elites trudging through mud and canon fire, never quite making it to the enemy redoubt.
the situation described at 1:08:37 can't happen. Drilled isn't a full 'reform', but specifically a 'redress the ranks', so the frontage can change by a maximum of 5 models and you cannot add/deduct models on just the one side of the unit (similar in spirit to how the center of the unit remains in place during a reform). In addition, models cannot move further than twice their movement during 1 maneuver, even if its a free maneuver.
Loving the Old World battle reports - can't wait to see Mordian try out a Warrior Priest to see if they're any good or not! I think a WP of Sigmar could be good in Knights / Greatswords or Halberd infantry. WP of Ulric's prayers look either very situational or just weak!
According to lore, in Old World timeline there are a lot more steam tanks around as they were recently invented. In Fantasy Battles, centuries later, only 12 remain.
Since your going with so big infantry blocks you should try and put captain in each of your spearmen blocks the two skills of hold the line and rally is quite good. Plus more importantly it gives your unit leadership 8 instead of 7
I’m not an expert. But can you actually move like that with 12” fly (steed of shadows)?? As I understand it you have to pay for wheeling when “close order” (that’s one of the benefits to have a Pegasus instead of a a dragon etc. better mobility)
great report and great game. Question about the drilled block of 7x3 chaos. Drilled allows you to redress the ranks, which is 5 models moving from the front to the rear or rear to front. How is a 7x3 formations getting into marching column when moving only 5 models? Or was this missed and more than 5 were moved?
You can move or remove up to 5 models from the front rank. You then add remove the models behind them. As example is shown in the rule book on page 125
All the orc and goblin shade… Everyone’s got a plan until they get a squig in the face. :) I’m not convinced orc artillery gunline is the faction meta FWIW. The most successful lists I’ve seen have two doom divers and plenty of other violence.
My view on the power of bretonian list types relative to eachother Grand army 10/10, by far the strongest detachment type exiles: 8/10 a lot of cool stuff to do but losing automatic ward on most units, and losing grail knights, t4 magic, and more hurts a lot crusade: 6/10 only time errants are good, but impetuous on all knights hurts a lottt.
Ludwig XII: Where the hell is Vossenberg? Looting a heretical shrine to Sigmar?! You have my elementalist wizards teleporting your men at 24hrs a day, how exactly is that supposed to secure my claim on the Empire?! ....I paid you a small fortune...
"And this gives you power over me?"
The fact a wargaming channel has a sponsor from Sharpe is insane to me. Actual goals right there.
Peachy punching the air rn
i didn't even know a new novel was out!
That comment got a Subscribe from me. Truest of statements it was.
Actual warriors of chaos in a warriors of chaos army. State troops in an empire army good men!
They are underated imo, they have such good rates vs top threats.
@@janehrahan5116 yeah mark of nurgle with a sorceror of nurgle in there they are tough as nails. Thats what I tend to do with mine at least.
Any mark is good. There are so many things in old world that people use regularly with one or more of the following ws2/4/5, str 3-5 (t4 matters) toughness 3-5 (s4 matters) i3/4 (i4 matters).
@janehrahan5116 of course stat lines matter and chaos warriors have fantastic stats lines for line infantry but that is reflected in points. So when I spend on warriors I want them to be tanky that's why I love getting a nurgle sorcerer in there to give them fleshy abundance.
@@mohamedmaiza3866 Which sadly is remains in play 7+ so very easily dispelled on the opponents turn.
Steam tank chasing the mounted marauders needed some benny hill music.
You can’t march backwards ‘Whilst marching a unit can wheel to change direction, but cannot perform any other manoeuvres’. Move backwards is a manoeuvre.
Also re discussion on flagellants, versus the normal hand weapons they won’t get the ward save due to ensorcelled weapons.
this was a really good batrep mordian. i came here for the guard but im an old empire/chaos fantasy fan from the early 90s in my childhood and actually the old world stuff has really caught me. i prefer watching this game and this is one of the few channels where i feel like ur playing the game properly not just mindlessly pushing models at each other. the quality of the actual gameplay for old world on this channel is the best out there m8, id love to see more like this, trying out different lists, seeing different ideas. very cool m8.
Man, Chaos Knights are scary. Did not expect three guys on their own bully an entire block of spearman like that.
1:08:30 drilled discussion.
Even with drilled, the charge arc is decided by the units facing at the start of the turn, not post-drilled. If that makes sense..
@@rafjord1721 true, BUT the drilled unit could redress ranks when giving ground from the spell, and then have a wider front that way. FAQ confirmed this
Redress the ranks also only allows the frontage to change by 5 models, so the proposed redress would not have been possible.
also, can't redress ranks only towards one side since your command is obligued to be on the center and the rulebook only lets you reposition them when you reform
Got the First Law reference 👌
Same.
What?? WHAT?!?! I’ve been dyyyyyying for good OW content but I get my servants of the dark gods??? MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!! ⚔️🔥
Tzeentch’s disciple since 1990, you’ve made a Canuck geezer happy this weekend!
Good to see you at Element Games today, I did mean to pop over to say hello and tell you how much I enjoy watching the channel. I never did so I'll do it now instead! I also think I have one of your dice, it was left with my stuff at the end. Let me know if you want it back! Hope you had a good day man and please keep doing what you're doing with Old World!
Hey dude! Maybe we can do a BatRep and I can get the dice back from you? :)
@@MordianGlory oh for sure, I’ll bring the elves on for a battle!
This game has such great aesthetics.
Great battle report! Keep on clarifying obscure rules and introducing great combo's, really usefull!
Really enjoyed this. There’s only a few good old world batrep channels out there and a lot of them have either stopped or paused them. Love the narrative army compositions too!
42:25 Frenzied units just have to declare a charge. There is nothing forcing them to charge the nearest enemy unit.
45:00 A model can only make one shooting attack. The breath weapon is a shooting attack as cleared up by the faq.
1:58:00 Check Controlling Special Feature. If 2 eligible units are within 6", the CLOSEST unit controls the feature. Sorry, but I think the chaos won this one... 😂
WRT to 'a model can only make one shooting attack' are you able to provide a reference to that? The closest thing I could see was "A can shoot only once per Shooting phase, and models can make only one shooting attack (the number of Attacks a model has does not affect the number of shots it can make)."
Just got done with my 4th reread of the First Law, your character's names got me good.
I'm about to re read the entire series again lol
Assemble the elector counts !!
Counts of Meeeow!
Was really excited to see that chaos chosen dual axe frothing khorne berserkers try and chop through these fat bricks of state troops! I feel propper teased and bamboozled for over 2h with no satisfying conclusion. But great armies and great plays. Hope to see more battlereports with these kind of lists.
The cat being on Chaos's side is the most accurate thing ive seen all day
Very enjoyable, thanks for sharing.
Love the references to the First Law in this army list
the Empire player is a complete coward who only played RUNHammer while the chaos lad was trying to play WARHammer.
Truly a shame.
Just wait until them dwarves show up , the chaos boys will meet the steel wall then by the gods.
Should those marauders not flee of the table? Looking at the direction from them to the centre of the charging spearmen
Not sure if I am missing something, but shouldn't panic tests be taken when the chariot and then the frenzied marauders were wiped out?
Nice First Law reference
ALOT OF TOUGHNESS 3 BODYS! A TRUE CADIAN even in the PAST°°°
GLORY!
1:21:11 The turn of Brave Sir Robin 😂
MY KINGDOM FOR HALBERDS! Such great commentary throughout. Loved this.
Great report! Man, it's brutal watching those Chaos fellows slog so far up the board and get denied over and over. Did they have to deploy so far back? It seems like Chaos infantry will want to deploy as far forward as possible. It's like some Napoleonic elites trudging through mud and canon fire, never quite making it to the enemy redoubt.
I love the Sharpe references man
That was an incredibly passive chaos army.
Naming the chaos lord trotsky is amazing 😂😂
Really good TOW Battle Report!! Waiting for more!
Old world plus Sharpe plus broing down...instant sub
Dude!! More old world content please! Love it
Bremer dan Gorst - great 😄 just this Morning I was looking myself for a suitable model for my own Empire Army 😉
What a fun game, wish I'd had time to watch a couple of your games this Sunday gone.
Nice First law reference. I see you.
the situation described at 1:08:37 can't happen. Drilled isn't a full 'reform', but specifically a 'redress the ranks', so the frontage can change by a maximum of 5 models and you cannot add/deduct models on just the one side of the unit (similar in spirit to how the center of the unit remains in place during a reform). In addition, models cannot move further than twice their movement during 1 maneuver, even if its a free maneuver.
For the Hammer, and the empire
Love your tow content! 🤜🤛
Is that a Contrast paint on the Marauder horses? I wonder which it is? Looks great! It's like a dark blue/black.
Great fight!
Loving the Old World battle reports - can't wait to see Mordian try out a Warrior Priest to see if they're any good or not! I think a WP of Sigmar could be good in Knights / Greatswords or Halberd infantry. WP of Ulric's prayers look either very situational or just weak!
According to lore, in Old World timeline there are a lot more steam tanks around as they were recently invented. In Fantasy Battles, centuries later, only 12 remain.
That's only according to WarCom. The books keep the OW timeline tanks at 12 created (there's only eight by Franz's reign). Classic WarCom error
@@jessepigram1039 wow, I went to check and you're absolutely right.
Love the battle rapport, please make more with Alex :)
Mordian, your Infantry looks amazing! Would you mind sharing what kind of models these are?
Since your going with so big infantry blocks you should try and put captain in each of your spearmen blocks the two skills of hold the line and rally is quite good. Plus more importantly it gives your unit leadership 8 instead of 7
New sub and I love your channel! Where did you get your red dice with the nice big pips?
I think at 48:43, on hills you ignore cover too or you just have LoS?
Ist that a Furry Chaos Demon on the Tabe?l 🐈
I’m not an expert. But can you actually move like that with 12” fly (steed of shadows)??
As I understand it you have to pay for wheeling when “close order” (that’s one of the benefits to have a Pegasus instead of a a dragon etc. better mobility)
Naturaly upon seeing the enemy I fix bayonets and charge that is my style sir!
Loving the TOW videos!
great report and great game. Question about the drilled block of 7x3 chaos. Drilled allows you to redress the ranks, which is 5 models moving from the front to the rear or rear to front. How is a 7x3 formations getting into marching column when moving only 5 models? Or was this missed and more than 5 were moved?
You can move or remove up to 5 models from the front rank. You then add remove the models behind them. As example is shown in the rule book on page 125
Maybe they made a turn? Each individual turns 90 degrees and command group runs to the new fighting rank.
Ya cutthroat mercenaries done stole that steam tank. 😅
I'm waiting for some Dwarf action. You have to put your own advice in action.
Dwarf blender Lord
Longbeards
Slayers
I wanted to build similar empire list! Infantry is the best!
All the orc and goblin shade… Everyone’s got a plan until they get a squig in the face. :)
I’m not convinced orc artillery gunline is the faction meta FWIW. The most successful lists I’ve seen have two doom divers and plenty of other violence.
Need to work on your cannon shots. 10 inches from the back is good against big base single model.
This is what im here for!
Cat OP, pls nerf 😺
59:45.
There’s no Initiative bonuses for Following Up a Give Ground?! I’ve been playing a bonus
Don’t think so. You get one if you follow up after falling back in good order ( provided it’s a long enough distance)
Why is terrain so sparce? I'm comparing this to games like MESBG
Your cat is a carbon copy of my cat white socks 😂😂
For the DARK GODS
grapeshot man!
What kind of hell spawned feline horror did chaos deploy at mid table????
53:20 great weapons absolutely get AB1
More Old World!
immediate like for cat
you can't march backwards, during a march movement the only manoeuvre you can do is wheel, and moving back is a manoeuvre
you cant drilled reform to flank charge, arc is determined before anything
I agree. You can only drilled when moving the unit. Receiving a charge isn't moving...
The best game!
Playing Empire like Wood Elves…
👍👍
Thoze chosen was a disaster to watch move. The onetrick pony spell and then lini g them up for cannonz :/ Have only seen up to turn 4
Cat
Who liked the video for the cat
👇
Such little terrian 😅
Needs less minis and more catto.
Why chase with your steam tank? Waste of a cannon!
I like 40 k a lot but the meta bullshit and constant changing bothers me
Cat?? No dogg???
There are no dogs, only Catissars! ;)
My view on the power of bretonian list types relative to eachother
Grand army 10/10, by far the strongest detachment type
exiles: 8/10 a lot of cool stuff to do but losing automatic ward on most units, and losing grail knights, t4 magic, and more hurts a lot
crusade: 6/10 only time errants are good, but impetuous on all knights hurts a lottt.
53:20 great weapons absolutely get AB1