Blade Steel: 440 Rundown... What is the difference?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • In our newest installment of our blade steel series, T.C. sits down to go over when 440 was developed, why and what the difference is between all of them. Find all of our 440 blades here...
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Комментарии • 545

  • @EDCandLace
    @EDCandLace 2 года назад +34

    As a professional sharpener and someone who tests a lot of knives with edge retention testing... really well done 440c is a superb steel. All the people out there that turn their nose up at 440c because its not a modern powder steel... they just don't know how good it can be. Custom HT 440c can be mind blowing good, well done factory HTs on 440c will still provide you a very usable steel.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +7

      We love 440 in all of its iterations

    • @johndilday1846
      @johndilday1846 2 года назад +7

      I agree. 440C has been my favorite blade steel since I was a young man. I would rather have a good steel like 440C that is easy to resharpen than some super hard steel that takes forever to sharpen. If I wear out the knife, I would be only too happy to find an excuse to buy another knife.

    • @nitrorc4life1
      @nitrorc4life1 Год назад +2

      Like John, I've come to like 440c alot. I have g9ne full circle over a decade now, started with budget steel, spent alot on premium to super steels, then have gone back to more basic steels along with along with premium and SS.

    • @geico1975
      @geico1975 Год назад +2

      420HC Buck knives, does that steel have any thing to do with 440 steel?

    • @taylorhickman84
      @taylorhickman84 Год назад +3

      I was chatting today with my friend who is a hair dresser, curious as to the scissor steel of choice I asked to see hers, which from are all high end from 3 different makers, and they were all Japanese 440c.

  • @Jlbeaver2
    @Jlbeaver2 2 года назад +7

    My first Benchmade from the early 2000’s is 440c, great knife! I daily carried it for 17 years.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      We love a daily EDC that last years 👍

  • @cormacmccarthy1559
    @cormacmccarthy1559 2 года назад +3

    The Rough Ryder man... I don't know why but I dig those knives. Can't stop myself. And I'm happy with the 440. Glad you have them.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @El_Pendejo6636
      @El_Pendejo6636 5 месяцев назад

      Yeap I became an addict of rough Ryder. They gave me a free trapper when I bought a marbles camp knife. Wow so simple yet nice. Since it doesn't lock it makes you mind your cutting.

  • @kjgas6945
    @kjgas6945 2 года назад +2

    Love the video. Ar-rpm9 or d2. I carved a spoon with my ruffryder Reserve Barlow I bought from you guys. It carves in Cedarwood just fine. I love D2 now! And I think ARP-9 is fantastic! And 14c28n .👍👍🤠🤠🎯🎯🍻😎😎. That ruffryder Reserve Barlow is a beautifully built knife.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      We love how versatile the RRR line is and thanks for watching!

  • @franka9760
    @franka9760 2 года назад +2

    Glad you got a laugh out of my comment about the microphone! 😁
    Thanks for the info on the 440 series. One manufacturer that features 440C is Cutco, but of course they're the sole distributors of their knives.
    I always like to learn more about the steels used in knives. Keep it up!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      We love interactions in the comments and it often gives us a great jumping-off point!

  • @knifelore1647
    @knifelore1647 Год назад +1

    TC, brother you can tell you love what you do! An we all enjoy you sharing with us! Thanks man!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @allsomehow
    @allsomehow 2 года назад +2

    Timing of this video is perfect, just ordered a Tater Skin Rough Ryder small work knife. Excited to try it out and looking forward to checking out the reserve line after!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      We are loving the Tater Skins!

  • @jeanmorin3247
    @jeanmorin3247 10 месяцев назад +1

    This briefing was very informative and very well done. I have learned a great deal about a knife that I love, that I have used for 15 years, which is just stamped '440'. I now know that it is a 440A and I know the history and the characteristics, including the composition of 440 steels(I took notes of what you said). So... I'm subscribed to know more. Well done! Thank You!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  10 месяцев назад

      Glad we could help and that you enjoyed the video! TC has shot more blade steel videos and they should be coming out soon 👍

  • @Tim_Bushy
    @Tim_Bushy 2 года назад +2

    Great job explaining 440! Thanks TC and SMKW

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching Tim!

  • @jamesparker6383
    @jamesparker6383 Год назад +1

    What is your opinion on the Puma White Hunter?

  • @SucculentDoorbell
    @SucculentDoorbell 2 года назад +3

    Such a good podcast video. I had NO idea 440 steel had this kind of history at ALL

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Once you start looking in to where the steel comes from, why it was made, and how it has been changed/adapted it can cover a lot of history very quickly

  • @ralphu.7568
    @ralphu.7568 2 года назад +4

    I learned about 440 since back in my younger days. I'm 52 now. Lol!
    Know that 440 has pretty much become the standard steel in knife
    blades. At least for me any way. That's what I look for when I go to
    purchase a knife. I love it!!!!!!!!!!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +2

      Many of our Rough Ryder series are 440 and some 440B. Thanks for watching 👍

    • @ralphu.7568
      @ralphu.7568 2 года назад +2

      @@SMKWcom- See I learned something here watching this video. I only knew of just 440. I didn't know there were different grades like the "B" and "C" that you mentioned. The "B" and "C" versions of 440, are they just different strengths of the metal? What determines the "B" from the plain 440 and the "C" from the "B"? I want to learn. As I love knives!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      @@ralphu.7568 we love using knifesteelnerds.com/ for not only these videos but just for the love of knives and steel themselves

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      I prefer carbon steels for knives imo 420 and 440 ruined getting into knives for alot of people because to be quite frank it's lame. No charm for only decent performance.unleass you just like a shiny knife...vGive me any carbon steel any day, I could smell patina all day.

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      ​@@ralphu.7568as a steel snob, I'd only use 440c lol

  • @GabeItches2996
    @GabeItches2996 Год назад +1

    can u do a quick video for the k25 RK-31825 knife? i bought it recently and i want to know some specs for its blade

  • @BX138
    @BX138 4 месяца назад +1

    @2:17 The video starts

  • @Robbie7441
    @Robbie7441 2 года назад +1

    I love the steel series, very interesting and informative, thanks 👍🏻👍🏻, did Greg write that piece of music at the end? 🤔🤔

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching Robbie! TC is the musician of the group while Greg is the comic relief 🤣

  • @joehebert901
    @joehebert901 2 года назад +2

    I Like 440 steel. I remember in the 70's it was on all your good quality knives. I am still waiting on 52100 steel please.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Great suggestion and thanks for watching!

  • @stephenbarabas6286
    @stephenbarabas6286 2 года назад +1

    The microphone in front of T.C'S face was awesome 👍
    I complain about silly background music but I've never worried about mic placement

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      You have no idea how much fun TC has looking for songs to use

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer Год назад +1

    Great video thank you

  • @mikehook2835
    @mikehook2835 2 года назад +1

    Awesome info thanks so very much

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching Mike!

  • @redastrachan8978
    @redastrachan8978 2 года назад +2

    Been beating on a 440c Ganzo. Edge has held up remarkably

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      440C is awesome!

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      Until it chips from all that chromium ​@@SMKWcom

  • @TheHeat55
    @TheHeat55 2 года назад +2

    All I know is I have a $20 440 steel copy of a $459.00 Benchmade that is of of D2 steel and it's easy to sharpen and just keeps working.

  • @kniceslice780
    @kniceslice780 2 года назад +2

    I give you a 440A+ for yet another fantastic edge-a-cational video! How you know so much TC? I just purchased a Linder Bandolero with 440 on the blade. Now I know it is most likely 440A. Thanks again SMKW

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +2

      Knife puns! love it 👍

  • @Logan-te3zj
    @Logan-te3zj 2 года назад +1

    Great show loving the hat tc

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks Logan!

  • @benbeard9143
    @benbeard9143 Месяц назад +1

    If your problem is sharpening, just use 1055, imo. 440c is really Nice on Pocket knives for hunting, soyou don't have to clean it as thoroughly but to me, it's kinda kinda lame on a fixed blade.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Месяц назад +1

      1055, 1075, and 1095 are all great but 440 serves it purpose as well not only as a great budget steel, that is easy to sharpen, looks beautiful with several different finish options as well as it is each persons opinion on what is good and or bad.

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      @@SMKWcom it leaves a terrible taste in my mouth so to speak, because I didn't get a decent knife until I was an adult and bought my own...
      I feel like access to Knives in these older steels and education on how they work would have gone a long way to making more people appreciate the art of these tools. I had to teach myself. So i naturally get triggered when I see a Gerber or Ozark trail fixed blade marked as "sTaInLeSs sTeEL!!!" And it still has a black anti rust paint on it... Over designed!!! 440c is a bit more rare nowadays so it has novelty, but I don't like people thinking stainless steel is a one stop shop for knife steel.

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      @@SMKWcom I agree it's a valid steel and it's up to the individual.

  • @propblast82nd
    @propblast82nd 2 года назад +5

    New doesn't always mean better , 440 is a good EDC steel.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +3

      we love 440!

    • @benbeard9143
      @benbeard9143 Месяц назад

      440 is new compared to carbon steel

  • @EDCandLace
    @EDCandLace 2 года назад +2

    Suggestion for the next show, S60v/440v

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching and for the suggestions!

  • @4NdR3_K
    @4NdR3_K 2 года назад +1

    Great info, thanks.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @skcamerican
    @skcamerican 2 года назад +2

    Interesting. And I hear the bolster lock half hawk is in, too. Woohoo! I’m not a steel nerd, so this steel video is probably the only one I’ll watch. If it isn’t on a Rough Ryder, I don’t need to know. Lol.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching and you never know what tricks RR and RRR might pull with knife steels

  • @joshuahmoran
    @joshuahmoran 5 месяцев назад

    I agree. For a great bushcraft knife that is under 100 dollars it's hard to beat 440c, or Swedish sandvic 14c28n.

  • @HollywoodTacticool
    @HollywoodTacticool 2 года назад +2

    i never mind getting a rough ryder with 440 cuz the value is unreal. 440c i know i'm getting some of the best bang for my buck (like OG ganzo knives)-

    • @EDCandLace
      @EDCandLace 2 года назад +2

      Facts, a two G brand knives in 440c in my edge retention testing out cut every s35vn I have tested. Takes a insanely sticky edge and sharpens up easy and on any abrasive you choose. I really personally like 440c.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @shadowdancer8352
    @shadowdancer8352 2 года назад +3

    I also follow you on Twitter. 440c is my favorite steel.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for the follow and watching SD!

  • @nageeb96
    @nageeb96 Год назад +2

    amen you got it right

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @darrellbroomhall7020
    @darrellbroomhall7020 2 года назад +1

    How is the 440 spread related to D2 if at all?

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/yd5xcmXl1Fo/видео.html

    • @darrellbroomhall7020
      @darrellbroomhall7020 2 года назад

      @@SMKWcom Thanks, very informative.

  • @stephenbarabas6286
    @stephenbarabas6286 2 года назад +3

    I'd say the Gerber strongarm is a good 440 steel... Tested and tough

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching Stephen!

    • @jessr.2490
      @jessr.2490 Год назад

      Strongarm is 420HC.

  • @bobgj0905
    @bobgj0905 2 года назад +1

    Is surgical stainless steel a 440 or when it just says stainless steel?

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Surgical stainless is 316L

    • @deving3370
      @deving3370 10 месяцев назад

      I work for a surgical tool manufacturer and most of the stainless cutting tools we make are 440a. So I would say it is.

  • @Max-ye9xg
    @Max-ye9xg 11 месяцев назад +1

    As a kid we were obsessed with the Guinness Book of World Records and surgical steel but it's so damn hard you can't sharpen it

  • @greatestever2451
    @greatestever2451 2 года назад

    What grade is china 440 steel. It doesn't have a letter behide it

  • @abstractapproach634
    @abstractapproach634 Год назад

    I just got my first 440A (chinesium M7 bayonet, had to after I got a midlength gas system 16" AR-15)
    I prefer 1095 for a work blade (like my shorty ka-bar) and 440C for a cutting knife, but I guess it
    *this may seem backwards, but I've pry'd quite hard on 1095, I think I am more likely to bend a knife.... like I've broken plenty of unmarked steel as a kid but yeah, and I like to be able to refinish an edge quickly for my cutting blade (if there's alot I have a good box-cutter)*
    Anyways, good to know it's not terribly inferior to 440C.
    *I'd love to try a powder steel someday, but my money goes to lead. Doesn't preform well in a Rockwell hardness test, but sure is a nice dense metal to propel through a rifled barrel!*

  • @alpine1600s
    @alpine1600s 2 года назад +5

    BOTTOM LINE: If the heat treat isn't right, and the edge geometry not suited for the task, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT STEEL IT IS!🧐

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +1

      very true on the heat treat

  • @krisyoung447
    @krisyoung447 11 месяцев назад +2

    "My Angel is a centerfold" 😂

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  11 месяцев назад +1

      Those of a certain age know that song and music video very well lol

  • @mikecurtis2585
    @mikecurtis2585 2 года назад +2

    440 Always been a great steel for me! MagnaCut!!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for watching Mike and MagnaCut would be a fun one to do

  • @Max-ye9xg
    @Max-ye9xg 11 месяцев назад +1

    1095 is probably good for tools impact or throwing knives but I hate the edge

  • @jamesthreader2270
    @jamesthreader2270 2 года назад +3

    2:00 video starts

  • @GromMolotok
    @GromMolotok 2 года назад +2

    This was great info. I would like to see more on the powdered steels myself. I don't know much about metallurgy, so all these are great.
    Also, nice to seeing you respond to the comments so quickly.

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Grom! We try to respond as quickly as possible, we love interacting with the knife community any chance we get 👍

  • @dhuhasya
    @dhuhasya 2 года назад

    guys please review cpm3v

  • @jonahpoe2394
    @jonahpoe2394 2 года назад +2

    Where is my monthly catalog

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      www.smkw.com/catalog-signup

  • @chadlkilmer
    @chadlkilmer 2 года назад +1

    Put the mic back! Shure is awesome...but then again you are too! But damn that's a nice mic!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching Chad

  • @warrenalbrecht
    @warrenalbrecht 2 года назад

    Nice

  • @grllaspeak
    @grllaspeak Год назад

    440A or C ❤️👍

  • @jasonkerby9984
    @jasonkerby9984 2 года назад

    Right on

  • @YahdDestroyer
    @YahdDestroyer Год назад +1

    Nice review sir!

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words and for watching as well!

  • @BeezBlades
    @BeezBlades 2 года назад

    #orange

  • @austinkokomainiac7352
    @austinkokomainiac7352 2 года назад

    #orange good luck y’all. Also 440 ain’t so bad if you know how to sharpen.

  • @VincentKearney1967
    @VincentKearney1967 2 года назад

    I want it

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    @kjgas6945 2 года назад +1

    Big Orange

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    @clwilson6169 2 года назад

    #orange new black

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    @jeremycrowe4693 2 года назад

    Big Orange. Orange I'm in to win

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    @MittenStateEDC 2 года назад +1

    #nkd#thanks

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    @Justin-ho8xp Год назад +1

    👍🏻

  • @giantfatberg
    @giantfatberg 2 года назад +1

    Haha. I remember seeing that comment on a previous video. Excellent video

    • @SMKWcom
      @SMKWcom  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching GF 👍

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    @funkfist1337 8 месяцев назад

    Love

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