Tier Listing EVERY Major Starscream Design
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I sort of expected you to point out how G1 Starscream is one of, if not the only Decepticon with an Autobot colour scheme.
Respectfully disagree with the placement of the movie starscream design since the movies try to do away with traditional mass shifting when possible so a lot of the design is condensed and folded away but it still possesses a lot of the traditional elements you would see on a Starscream like the wings on the back, the cockpit on the chest, it swaps the null rays for a Vulcan cannon because that’s what the real world fighter jet has.
If anything the way he has the digitigrade legs allows him to actually be a similar height to the other characters and in the sequels they really get to play around with him being a scheming henchman of Megatron and a bit of a coward by the way he grovels.
The F-22 Raptor was also the most superior military jet at the time of production so it fits that Starscream would take on that for his alt mode
I fucking LOVE Starscream’s true form design!
Eh, Bay Starscream is awesome. It's very unique but I think still works as a Starscream. The avian aspects are cool and he does look like a jet come to life, plus the alien nature of the design adds to what the movies were going for.
Also the fact that he's wide yet flat is a perfect metaphor for his classic personality. Boasts a great game and thinks of himself as powerful, but as soon as he's met with the slightest resistance he crumples like paper in the wind.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIIIthat's a good point too! It also has two key Starscream design traits: the cockpit in the chest, the obvious one, and the wings on the back. Some could argue that isn't much, but it's there regardless.
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII Along with his posture making him look like he's constantly groveling to whoever he's talking to
Yeah I thought he was too hard on him too.
Hey talon i really like your videos
Cybertron is absolutely the best. If the leaks are correct then a new figure of that design is coming next year and I cannot wait. I want it in all the colors. Cybertron Sunstorm perhaps?
I think people are too hard on Bayverse Starscream. He does retain a couple of classic Starscream design elements. He has the jet canopy on his chest. He has the wings on his back (made from his tail this time). He lacks the classic colors (since real F-22s are not painted like that) but I think he has enough elements that you can see the Starscream lineage.
I always heard that they were trying to avoid having Starscream absolutely tower over the Autobots (as fighter jets tend to be quite large compared to cars). I think this makes the Dorito proportions easier to understand.
Pretender Starscream mainly works for "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court".
Honestly my one complaint is that you didn't include BM Jetstorm as a nod to your rewrite. I suppose to be fair it isn't Starscream, and wasn't meant to be by the designers, so it wouldn't entirely be fair to judge it on that axis, but, at least within the TJ Omega G1 Continuity, that is a Starscream
Can’t say I agree with movie starscream being flea market. Yeah, I’m a little biased, HOWEVER, it is a flying design considering the fact that his body is shaped like a dorito, that’s already shaped like a flying wing. Also he’s got the thrusters on his back and I dare say he’s more capable looking than the cybertron one.
Edit: ever notice how IDW starscreams final form looks like RID storm shot?
Prime Universe Starscream's alt mode is an F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter, TJ, which gives him that real slender, gangly look.
Armada Starscream reigns supreme in my book. So sleek in both modes and a killer color combo. RID 2015 is a massive improvement on his gangly Prime design, and Cybertron did a great job doing an homage to the G1 tetrajet that managed to make him feel powerful even before he goes big.
The original is Holy Grail to me. Mostly all the other designs are a derivative of that one.
I'd buy a toy of Ideal Starscream too! It's so cool!
Several notes regarding some of the different Starscream designs.
-Because of his color scheme of black, purple and grey (standing in for silver), Beast Wars II Starscream can best be described as Skywarp wearing an Optimus helmet.
-Cyberverse Starscream feels like that later IDW design, influenced by the Evergreen design.
-Movieverse Starscream is perfectly fine. His bulky proportions suit his position as first luitenant of the Decepticons, even if his insectoid head takes a wee bit of getting-used-to.
-Animated Starscream only had the forearm mounted nullray guns on his toy. In the cartoon they were on his biceps, like G1 Starscream. I just think his colors were poorly done, seeing he was grey with maroon in the show, and weirdly and kinda infamously, blue and bright red on *all* of his toys. Even the Takara releases.
-Earthspark Starscream has some wierdness, yes. But for me, the main irritations are his blue eyes and the intakes on the sides of his helmet being too high, like elf ears.
-Surprised you didn't mention that Energon Starscream was based on the G2 Smokescreen figure which was of course redecoed into Beast Wars II Starscream.
-I couldn't disagree more regarding TFP Starscream if I wanted to. *I despize the skinny design, and the red Decepticon symbol he head on his chest in the show means he was inatvertedly casting a shadow of disgrace on the heroic Shatterd Glass Decepticons. Hell, thanks to his color scheme of various grays with some black and a few hits of red and blue, most prominently the red crest on his forehead, you can say he looks like Machine Wars Starscream if he was starving to death.* So no, his design is no holy grail, it's a scrapyard wreck.
My favorite Starscream design is probably Energon for the very unique color scheme, but Siege is a close second.
I wouldn't place Bayverse Starscream into flea market category. The least there're recognizable design aspects to Bayverse Starscream; unlike Pretender Starscream. It should also be remembered that Michael Bay wanted Transformers to remain similar sizes between vehicle and robot forms. The F-22 in itself is quite the big fighter; so that translates into Starscream's earthen form having more bulk than his protoform.
Much like with his Prime design; I feel his traditional color scheme wouldn't have worked here as well.
This is the one my favorite one comedians, I love
First Edition Prime Starscream is one of the few Prime toys I wish I got
i like Bumblebee movie Starscream for the simple fact that it looks like he is wearing bell bottom pants
Wasn't there the G2 Smokescreen release? I thought that was the first use of that mold.
I actually kind of like the Movie Starscream design, just as its own thing. Probably could've benefited from some extra color, but I think it's cool and distinctive in its own right.
Isn't the Cyberverse Starscream design also a variation on the evergreen design?
Animated Starscream still has the bicep-mounted null rays, at least outside of the toys.
Earl IDW Starscream's alt mode is an F-22 Raptor, TJ, which has trapezoidal style wings that have a slight droop to them, as part of the plane's stealthy shape.
Was kinda expecting him to go full geewuner, pleasantly surprised. Guess you can say he's, more then meets the eye.
He still shit on Bayformers Starscream.
@@tritonk1759 to be fair I like the design and even I can hear him out about it
i been waiting for a tier list like this.
I see some cybertron star scream influence in that idw imaginary star scream
The show, the comic, or the game?
Really can’t dispute any of this, other than I’d probably drop Cybertron Starscream down to premium and put Animated in its place. It’s an excellent design, but it’s from a general era of designs where a lot of TFs looked like they were so solely designed to be toys, that as characters, they couldn’t sit in a chair or walk through a door or have any kind of life, and that overly toyeitc style often annoyed me.
(Plus, I admit, having to wait for the Vector Prime two pack in a different color scheme dulled my enthusiasm, since I wasn’t in a position to import.)
Man, I really agree with you concerning the Energon Starscream, mate! In fact, I just managed to track down the SuperLink one about 2 weeks back to complete all 4 of his Energon iterations in the collection. Never came across that version in person in my close 20 years of hunting for him in the wild! 😅
Having a laugh over TJ thinking Shoji Kawamori just disappeared into the void
Won’t argue with the Grails, but I feel like some of the lower tiers could be rearranged. I rather like WFC and Hearts of Steel, and Prototype. And how dare you insult the gloriousness of Animated, he belongs right up there next to Prime Scream!
IDW Starscream almost seems like a allegory for trans ppl seeking their best selves, I wonder if that was either intentional or just a happy coincidence?
Please do a video on giving Transformers 3rd alt modes (excluding actual Triple Changers and Tracks)
Starscream, the planest transformer design ever.
For the Pretender shell, I feel like if Starscream and Grimlock swapped, they would be a better fit.
My favorite Decepticon
When doing these, could you zoom in? It is very tough to watch these on mobile.
I wanna see a Grimlock list!
I disagree with Hearts of Steel and Alternity, I really like the Hearts of Steel design and would of put it premium or Holy, Alternity however I would've put in the Bargain Bin or Flea Market, but this is just my opinion!!
Didn’t you Flea Market the Protoform Starscream when covering the Movie toys? I know that was more for the toy’s execution than the design it is based on… but the design is still a part of the toy, so it seems inconsistent.
Hey TJ, could you do a video all about Transformers Alternity? Untill now, I've never have heard of that Transformers line.
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The best ones to me are energon g1 and animated the cybertronian and earth version armada the red one the prime one and the second shattered glass one
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I would have put Prime in Flea Market. The way he's portrayed in the show is fine and I'm glad Steve Blum got a chance to play a much better designed Starscream later on but I just HATE the Prime design. He's made so freaking thin in that show that I feel like he would snap in half like a twig if I just look at him the wrong way. I never even bothered with his toys because they all look incredibly fragile due to those skinny proportions.
I don't really like Animated Starscream either but that's just because I'm not a fan of the overly cartoony design aesthetic in that series. And that's another Starscream that I actually like the portrayal of in that series but judging on design alone, I don't like it.
RID2015 I LOVE that design. All he's missing is the crown and it's a very cleaver way of homaging the King Starscream look. The wings are designed to replicate the look of his cape and that's also why they gave him the big shoulder pads resembling his Coronation appearance. I don't think there's ever been another Starscream that had that look where it was all build into the actual design rather than being parts that added onto a different Screamscream design. I just love that they were able to create a coronation Starscream design that's all integrated in to look like that without any add on parts. That's Holy Grail for me.
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The ones that are b tier to me keep in mind I don't use s tier I'm american are the evergreen cyberverse late idw the early ej su one and the all hail megatron one and the seige one and hearts of steel and combiner wars cartoon one and the leader combiner wars toy and the power of the primes toy
Alternity better than heart of steel, lol. Alternity better than anything to be honest