Greatest urban legend in Oklahoma, that someday the roads will be safe to drive a motor vehicle on. Us and West Virginia have some competition for worst roads in the nation.
@@nannynan5893 That's a funnier thing I noticed. There are actually decent drivers here, but I can't tell if it's because of the terrible road conditions or because there is a huge rural population that had to learn to drive truck and trailer.
Yep! I probably should have been more clear on there is an underground, but its distinct from the underground rooms built by chinese immigrants and the associated rumors.
No it goes deeper the levels are deeper and the oil moguls and even hobby lobby family all allegedly holds priceless valuable items down there. At least that’s what I heard.lol
@@MrChefT must be behind some "off limits" areas bc I've been down there plenty of times & saw anything like that. But if one could somehow slip through to wherever you're not supposed to go, then bingo
@@Catfish.KnudsenThere are several different entrances and not all of them connect to all parts. I've only been down there a few times but what I've seen is extensive. The tunnels run for miles and miles; filled with shops, restaraunts, vaults, and hidden areas that are privately owned. I almost feel bad for any invading force tasked with taking OKC. It will be damn near impossible to force the defenders out!
Lived in Tulsa all my life. I've been to Center of the Universe, but never heard of any of the rest of these stories. As far as cryptids go, I'm told our most famous is the Oklahoma Octopus. We also have a few bigfoot sightings, and we're pretty obsessed with throwing bigfoot decor around. My favorite, however, is the obscure Wolf Deer. I love living here, but our stories are kinda on the dull side. 😆 Thanks for not overlooking us!
The oklahoma lake octopus is a fake store invented for a hoax TV show called "lost tapes". Having grown up in Oklahoma fishing since the 1980's, I've heard all manor of tall tales about our lakes, from Catfish big enough to swallow a man whole to a banker being found tied to a chair in Grand Lake, I've never heard of this octopus crap until after that episode aired. I even got into it with the criptologist from the show who had no idea that lakes Thunderbird, Oologa and Ten-Killer where all man-made built by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers starting back in World War 1. He literally believed these lakes where all naturally formed when the seas receded....
Right? I travel a lot, and one of my favorite touristy things to do is take walking ghost tours of cities. It's a really great way to learn about the history of the area. A Tulsa version of this would have to be for the physically fit or on a bus, because to have enough to make a tour, that's a lot of walking around downtown and a little into midtown.
Yooo. I stumbled across this video, and saved it to watch with my Oklahoma born and raised boyfriend. He was just like ":| I have never heard of any of this".
It is a shame that Oklahoma’s folk lore and stories aren’t really widely known. A mixture of southern, mid western, and Native American stories make for some things.
When I was a kid in Tulsa, we called the brother's "Mattress Brothers". Today, from a very reliable source, one brother has been known to visit swinger's clubs.
An Oklahoma legend that used to be quite popular in the old days was Flower Mound Hill or some say Flowering Mound, a legendary hill said to be located around McAlester. I learned about it as a teenager from a local newspaper covering the legend. The hill allegedly contains a cave that leads to bizarre underground chambers and enormous staircases. The legend told that monsters or demonic creatures came out of the cave to hurt livestock and three young men encountered the monsters in person when they explored the cave in the early 1900s. The young men were (according to the story) chased out of the underground chambers and up to the surface by bipedal monsters covered in hair and with clawed hands. One of the men was wounded by one of these monsters clawing him and they shot that particular creature with a pistol before escaping. The legend was popular enough when the local newspaper covered that story back around 2009, my grandmother said she remembered the legend from her time growing up in the area as a girl.
I remember when the Chinese city was found under Oklahoma city. I was living there at the time. There were pictures in the news papers. It was during renovation of down town. I was in high school at the time.
I can't imagine how the Chinese immigrants managed to create this city without anyone noticing. I can understand their fear of persecution, The double standards biased against them and any 'other than white' people were very well established, however. Thanks for sharing.
I went to college at Tahlequah which is the town nearby the grave of Mr Ed. For awhile there was a yearly concert event in that pasture called "Ed Fest" which was a play on the nearby Edge Fest concert series in Tulsa. It was pretty great.
Is the dude that made the video from Oklahoma? I'm only asking cuz that gerbil remark lol that is some goofy shit from back in the day that I don't know many younger kids that are from here even still heard of it, so I kinda find it hard to believe someone that ain't from here would have heard it lol it's funny he brought it up either way
Nope, I’m Ohio born and a TN native but I read a lot of old forums digging for urban legends/ghost stories/cryptids and the friggin’ gerbil story showed up too many times
I went to the parallel forest many times over the years. I never really thought of the forest as being scary, until I went there after dark. It is disorienting and very very dark. What was scary was when I went back to my car and before we left we were just talking in my car. When suddenly, and without warning, we all heard this loud(like right outside the car) gutteral scream then heavy breathing. Since there are wild bison roaming around i assumed that's what it was. Started my car and drove off as quickly as i could (meaning i had to do a complete circle to exit.) But never saw a bison or any other animal. Haven't been back since.
Hello life long Oklahoman here. I've lived along the Arkansas River between Ponce City and Muskogee for most of my life.. Some friends of mine in grade school who are Ponca and Otoe Tribal members told me about an area cryptid or entity called Deer Woman. There are many stories about this thing and it is a well known legend among the locals in Kay County. I don't remember any in particular at the moment but it was terrifying to hear about as a kid. Always stuck with me. Could be a cool edition to the Oklahoma cryptids video
My neighbor who is native was telling me about the deer woman. Im not sure which town he said his family is from but there was apparently police dash cam footage of her floating around the community.
I've been on the "magnetic hill" and, illusion or not, it's crazy! I highly suggest anyone try itif they haven't been before. 😮🤯😂 I grew up in Edmond and we used to hangout in the woods where that Grandini's Circus is. I was the one who stumbled upon it. Just walking through the woods and BAM!!! A huge metal clown face!! 😱💩🤣 This was before the internet and trying to get people to believe there's a dilapidated circus practically in your backyard was pretty difficult. 😂😂😂
@@aggressiveprefector1 nice! I'm in The Fort now but I make trips back to get tacos from the place that's in the old general store lol how's things back home?
"...Edmond's mild climate..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tell me you've never been to Oklahoma without telling me you've never been to Oklahoma. We have some of the wildest weather in the country, with temperatures varying from over 100° F to less than 10° F in the same year, with many tornadoes and wildfires every year as well. Such a mild climate!
I've been living in Moore, Ok. full time since about 86 (from Yukon, Ok.) but is spite of a Tornado once in a while I still tell friends that I'd rather live here than in the panhandle! MY GOD I think that has to be the hottest AND the coldest place you could live?
having grown up in Stillwater OK, when we were in school (Ages 8 or so), on recess breaks we would often all collectively try to dig a hole to China because we were told this tall tale that if you could dig deep enough, you would link up with the underground Chinese tunnels (the ones in OKC discussed above) and that these would lead us eventually to China........ The teachers never stopped us and eventually, we had a hole dug so deep that the school got in trouble from the city and had to get a dump truck brought in to fill it lol... no shit....we had it soo deep we were crafting terrace steps to safely descend to the bottom lol. I think the teachers never stopped us because well it was the 80's and no one was watching us, either that or they were just happy we students were cooperating with each other as opposed to say the usual favorite recess activity; beating the shit out of each other lol
This is amazing to read 😂. Back in the 90's at recess we'd used to dig our fair share of holes, but we also played "Dragon Ball Z"... which was just a giant game of beat the crud out of each other. Good times. My kids had better not beat anyone up at recess, though.
@@foreverstorytime2566 🤣your reply got me thinking about the time this one classmate of mine, at recess, sprained his ankle trying to prove that jumping on a turtle is one easy way to attain extra lives......Super Mario had just come out and Oila!!! Epilogue: The turtle was fine..... my classmate however was in tears and had to go home lol....1980's, what a decade🤘
In Hugo, Ok, where multiple circuses used to spend their Winters, there is a site called Mount Olivet Cemetery that contains the final resting places for many circus and rodeo performers, owners, and performing animals. Clowns! 😢 That is enough for me to call it creepy. Also, a real real re-entry vehicle is in Norman, Ok. Finally, the Masonic childern's home an orphanage in Guthrie.
@@muddy1052 thanks for the tips! Yep, covering a lot of these in my ghosts of Oklahoma video! Hadn’t heard of the real re-entry vehicle! I’ll look that up.
@@foreverstorytime2566 horrible company. They polluted an entire neighborhood in Columbus, Mississippi with their creosote railroad tie treatment plant. Poisoned thousands, causing heath issues and many deaths in addition to wrecking the ground water. The lawsuit has been dragging out for years with none of the families ever receiving any compensation.
I was born in Tulsa, and my (now husband) proposed to me at the Center of the Universe. Even typing this, I can't help but smile fondly at the memory. 💜
I've lived in Oklahoma my whole life, and I am aware of most of these legends. I've never heard of Gandini's Circus though. I just googled the location and realized I've been living less than a mile from it for over 30 years. In my defense, it's a very overgrown area, but I don't recall any locals talking about. I guess I should get out more?
My grandfather owned a ranch in SE Oklahoma that was once a dude ranch and before that, it was a school. It was an old, huge log cabin that had been bricked on the outside. There was a place on his land that was documented as Belle Starr's hideout. Sadly, the hillbillies around there didn't like outsiders, and they burned down the main building that still had all of the guest log books from the dude ranch that had Gene Autry's signature in it. The old horse head shaped pool is still there to this day, but it is half filled in with dirt, so it isn't recognizable from Google earth. I am surprised you didn't mention the tunnels that still exist under downtown OKC today. I use to walk underground from the parking garage bu the Murrah Building to Leadership Square, completely underground. There are still shops there and restaurants where workers could eat lunch without having to drive anywhere.
I remember visiting Gene Autry, Oklahoma. There are some cool photos online of back when it had a different name and a larger population. Dunno if the museum there still exists or not.
You are wrong that no proof was found about the Chinese tunnels. Downtown OKC has has a tunnel system with businesses to this day. When building the modern tunnel system, the Chinese tunnels where found. I used to work in the OKC underground. It's history is quite interesting.
@@MikeMookie From what I read the OKC underground construction only found isolated rooms dug underground, not series of tunnels connecting place to place.
I grew up near the Wichitas. I read the iron door story in the book Coranado’s Children. As a teenager in the 1970’s I looked for the iron door. I am very very familiar with the elk mountain area having explored it extensively. But of course I never found the door.
I live near Oologah Lake and the space capsule is still there even amid construction! Hopefully it will stay that way because the locals would not be happy if it went away haha
"Underground city" is a bit of a stretch. Anyone from OKC, or Oklahoma in general, can tell you that underground anything is not that common. It's why we don't have nearly enough storm shelters. Blame the red clay dirt.
Been to gandinis circus as recent as 2024. Stuffs still there. Definitely one of the cooler easy to get to abandoned places in Oklahoma. Probably the most well known and accessible one in the state. Its essentially a small forest where homeless sleep. During storms. Ran into a cool dude chillin like a cliche railroad hobo. Shared a few beers and talked about life choices. Definitely a nice place
Lifetime Okie here. That was a cool list. The Winganon cspdule is still there. I think most of Belle Stars activity with JJ was in the San Bois and Ouchita pronouncef Wash-e-tau mountians. Some of the coolest things I like to chrck out are ghosttowns. Several of the lakes have perserved towns with cars and everything from bsck in the 40's and 50's. Pitcher was abandoned because of an ecological disater in the early 80's and is a pretty creepy place with everything just left as it was because it was all contaminated. Good viddy.
When I was younger, I used to ride in the local youth rodeo in Edmond directly across from Gandini’s Circus. I was back there a couple months ago, and while the circus equipment is still there, it’s in pretty bad shape, and the plot is extremely overgrown. No development has started yet.
@@bread-kp5mg thanks for the local insight! Yeah, I worry for folks who trespass there. Even if they’re ultimately in the wrong, the stuff looked like it was gonna fall apart.
I worked in the red brick condos that are behind the hex house property and they are in my opinion haunted. I heard noises as if someone was playing up stairs and it was loud. It happened several times with several different contractors and workers hearing the noises as well.
My grandad had a map to Jesse’s gold. He searched for years until he was no longer able. He sold the map to someone else. There’s one born every minute The dust bowl was in the 1930s
Oklahoma is a very strange place. especially with some of the naming conventions in the state. thanks for the video, learned lots of new things. had heard the one about the shore lines before, But it was a lot more specific. saying not that Oklahoma had the most coastline, just that the combined coastline was longer than that of the east coast.
i drive past that spot on 21st everyday, where the original hex house used to be. i had no clue that was anything more than a christian haunted house attraction.
Both sides of the family were originally from Oklahoma. One side the Lees had a 1500 acres farm close to where OKC is now. The area was called long river, or long creek? 1900 to 1930s. Trying to track down more information abou this area.
Step daughter of MBs head of security and loss prevention for 20 years (during the "gerbal" incident) 😂😂😂 I'm dead. Petty beyond petty. Adultery can lead to all sorts of rumors
I’m a born Okie living in Osage County, OK. Well on my way to 70, I was today years old when I learned that the Karen Silkwood story took place in Oklahoma. 🤦♀️ As for folklore, we used to go to a bridge way out in the country to tempt the Catman to come scare us. Catman was said to have glowing red eyes. Never personally had any contact, thankfully. We also have a gravity hill out toward Matoaka. Interesting video, thanks for covering Oklahoma without portraying us Okies as unkempt and unintelligent.
@@kassandralevingston9874 why would anyone portray Oklahoma natives as dumb?? You’ve got so much to be proud of. Beautiful wilderness. Great universities. Rich history. I’d be happy to tell anyone who says otherwise to shove it 😂
@@foreverstorytime2566 People often only see us on the news when a tornado has struck. They see us at our worst. Maybe I’m just a little too sensitive. Thank you for your kind words about the people of Oklahoma.
As a Texan who is staying in Tulsa, Oklahoma for school, this is pretty interesting to hear my adopted homes weird folklore! Though, I do remember driving by the Space Capsule with my family! We were driving one night from a relative's house (about half of my family is from Oklahoma so I spent a lot of my childhood taking roadtrips up there) we passed by this strange shiny thing, thinking "What in the world was that?!" We turned around and sure enough, it was a space capsule! We decided to come back the next morning (after googling what it was) and got a few pictures with it.
Why does every Midwest state claim to have the most shoreline, I’ve heard people say the same thing about Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky and probably some other places that definitely don’t have the most shoreline.
The gerbils thing is an unconfirmed rumor about the Mathis Brothers, probably started by rightfully disgruntled ex employee. It also came out around the same thing was said about Richard Gere.
Um, was casually watching this totally not expecting Belle Starr to be mentioned. She’s a relative of mine on my grandmothers paternal side. It’s kind of a joke in our family.
@@foreverstorytime2566I actually currently live in the house in Oklahoma built in the late 1800s by that same side of my family. Starr’s married Markham’s. Great video, I’ll have to send it to my family!
In Weatherford oklahoma theres also a house right down the streat from braums just like 2 blocks and a woman and her husband were nurdered in the living room and if you google maps the address you can still see her standing onnthe front porch. My friend lived in that house it had cold and sad energy it was depressing
407 East Franklin avenue is the address but I just looked and ig the pictures are updated but when my friends told me about it I looked it up and seen her
Im from tulsa and people have some wild legends here like the ghosts of gays on turkey mountain, and people around where i live believe the events of the tulsa race massacre left a mark, spirits and residual energy from the horrific violent erasure and disposal of all those lives. i used to live in talequah for a while and everybody has wild stories of stuff in the woods, some of the weirdest shit thats ever happened to me was while i lived there. Alot of unexplainable and paranormal stuff happens in both places though
My boyfriend in the 1970’s had an uncle up in Tennessee whose home was on a mountain up just off of I-40. We went camping up on the site atop that mountain. Frank James is was supposed to have been buried right there atop that mountain. Interesting history.
You should include a video that tells the story of Chilocco. It was a school for Indians. I knew a lady who along with her younger sister were forced as young girls to attend after their father was killed in a cattle truck accident in Oklahoma. Their mom had to give them up as she could not afford to feed and care for them alone. The lady I knew who once attended the school had no harsh feelings about it. She was at peace with anything that had occurred in life so long ago.
Worked as a haunter at hex house for a couple years. Its a cool little story that the haunt still encourages actors to look into to prep for haunt season. Pretty decent haunt for a bit, but i quit this past year so i have no clue how its doing now. I suggest checking out Asylum in Nowata or the scarefarm (not sure of the name rn) in tulsa
I'm sure someone in the comments already mentioned it but with all the lakes that you mentioned I was surprised you didn't mention Optima the lake that never filled. it's near Guymon, where that long boring road is between Kansas & Texas.
Also in Oklahoma traffic cones are part of the esthetic once they go out on the road for construction they live there for 5 years. And when the construction is finished the road is not any better then before it started.
Drove past the parking lot where the Hex House used to be yesterday, and saw a couple of people walking around with what looked like EMF readers. Couldn't help but wonder if they were getting daytime EMF readings to compare to a nighttime investigation. As a fifth generation Tulsan, I know this area well, and my grandparents would often just shake their head when we would drive by.
I really enjoyed this video. I hope you have Robber's Cave in one of these videos about Oklahoma. It's a state park now days near Wilburton. When we were kids we were told by our sadistic parents to go into the caverns and look for the robber's gold that they buried there. We were told about all the famous outlaws who hid there from the law. Also there was supposed to be an ancient Indian burial ground. If you accidentally walked over it, then the Indian ghosts would haunt you. So we spent hours with other kids looking for gold and hoping that we didn't accidentally walk over an ancient Indian's burial site. It certainly made it the best place to swim and climb rocks when we were kids in the 70s. I believe the parents had a little extra fun scaring us and getting us excited to find that gold so we could get a new bike or whatever was on the top of your Christmas list. On another note we were told emphatically that the gerbil story came from Hollywood from Richard himself. Of course we also believed you heard satanic messages if you played certain records backwards.
I lived in Tulsa for 45 years, then moved east but still in the state. I spent a lot of time as a teen at the Center of the Universe. It's a weird, trippy experience! Saw 2 couples there get mugged though, we just looked like poor stoner teens so they didn't even mess with us. I've seen the Heavner Rune, I'm not sure really. I don't deny it either though. It does look like a very old carving to me, who knows. Maybe they weren't actually from Europeans, but communicated across the continent through the natives by those that actually met them near the north east coasts? Now, I currently live about 10 minutes from Mr. Ed! 🐴😅 It is on private property, but they welcome respectful visitors. I've driven from end to end on 412, it's literally torture!!! I actually went off on state highways the long way because it was so boring.
That's funny, I grew up a few blocks away from the hex house and never heard of it until now. Great stories! The one I remember from back then was the screaming bridge out in Broken Arrow, OK.
I literally live 499 feet from where the Hex House was (I googled the location after this video) and I had never heard the story until this video. I literally can see the location from my front porch. Always wondered about those stairs.. very cool video.
RUclips knows all. The moment I started researching for this video (not on RUclips) I started getting OK RUclipsrs recommended to me (which is pretty awesome to be honest).
My grandmother lives in sasakwa, Oklahoma and there was a lot of nights at 3am me and my bf at the time would go out for a really late cigarette, we would be talking and just trying to be quiet as to not wake my grandmother but we would always hear what would start as a rhythmic screeching that kinda sounded like an old metal door but then- it would turn into what sounded like two creatures talking to each other in this weird screeching language it was obviously two because they would almost be talking over on another the only thing that makes me truly believe it wasn’t doors of a building is because sasakwa had a population of like 100 people and I would time out the screeching noises and they definitely didn’t have any rythem to them at all anymore and I even heard leaves crunching like something was fast walking over where we were standing outside we would always get to scared to stay out there to long and ran back inside I used to have a recording of them talking but I since lost that phone
All the Wichita mountains gold/treasure info is interesting, but seeing as Ft Sill owns most of that land, if there was any "treasure" I'm sure it's either been found or destroyed by artillery fire.
The James gang stole more money than they could use. They would not do one big stash, rather a bunch of small caches here and there. A suitcase with some money, clothes and a boot gun.
It depends. Some, like me, would probably want to share the story due to the cultural significance. I’m honestly not sure I could sleep well at night knowing I found something so important and hid it from the world.
Greatest urban legend in Oklahoma, that someday the roads will be safe to drive a motor vehicle on. Us and West Virginia have some competition for worst roads in the nation.
😂 I’m sorry to hear that. I wonder if there are any stats on the worst roads in the country
@foreverstorytime2566 that'd be a video I'd watch.
Amen to that! Everywhere in Oklahoma feels like I either need an alignment or have square tires!
My state was voted 2nd worst drivers, Oregon only worse in Hawaii. If you've ever been to LA, you know we have to be really bad
@@nannynan5893 That's a funnier thing I noticed. There are actually decent drivers here, but I can't tell if it's because of the terrible road conditions or because there is a huge rural population that had to learn to drive truck and trailer.
I'm from OKC. There really is a underground city.
There are shops.places to eat... anyone can go down there.
Yep! I probably should have been more clear on there is an underground, but its distinct from the underground rooms built by chinese immigrants and the associated rumors.
City Is an exaggeration lol. That's all it is. Is a tunnel with some restaurants & pictures on walls & lights
No it goes deeper the levels are deeper and the oil moguls and even hobby lobby family all allegedly holds priceless valuable items down there. At least that’s what I heard.lol
@@MrChefT must be behind some "off limits" areas bc I've been down there plenty of times & saw anything like that. But if one could somehow slip through to wherever you're not supposed to go, then bingo
@@Catfish.KnudsenThere are several different entrances and not all of them connect to all parts. I've only been down there a few times but what I've seen is extensive. The tunnels run for miles and miles; filled with shops, restaraunts, vaults, and hidden areas that are privately owned. I almost feel bad for any invading force tasked with taking OKC. It will be damn near impossible to force the defenders out!
Lived in Tulsa all my life. I've been to Center of the Universe, but never heard of any of the rest of these stories. As far as cryptids go, I'm told our most famous is the Oklahoma Octopus. We also have a few bigfoot sightings, and we're pretty obsessed with throwing bigfoot decor around. My favorite, however, is the obscure Wolf Deer. I love living here, but our stories are kinda on the dull side. 😆 Thanks for not overlooking us!
@@leoncaw326 thanks for the comment! Lots of cryptids (including the beloved octopus!) on my cryptids of Oklahoma video!
If you haven’t yet, you should watch BIGFOOTVILLE OKLAHOMA EDITION W CINDY BEAR.
The oklahoma lake octopus is a fake store invented for a hoax TV show called "lost tapes". Having grown up in Oklahoma fishing since the 1980's, I've heard all manor of tall tales about our lakes, from Catfish big enough to swallow a man whole to a banker being found tied to a chair in Grand Lake, I've never heard of this octopus crap until after that episode aired. I even got into it with the criptologist from the show who had no idea that lakes Thunderbird, Oologa and Ten-Killer where all man-made built by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers starting back in World War 1. He literally believed these lakes where all naturally formed when the seas receded....
Right? I travel a lot, and one of my favorite touristy things to do is take walking ghost tours of cities. It's a really great way to learn about the history of the area. A Tulsa version of this would have to be for the physically fit or on a bus, because to have enough to make a tour, that's a lot of walking around downtown and a little into midtown.
Yooo. I stumbled across this video, and saved it to watch with my Oklahoma born and raised boyfriend. He was just like ":| I have never heard of any of this".
It is a shame that Oklahoma’s folk lore and stories aren’t really widely known. A mixture of southern, mid western, and Native American stories make for some things.
@@shiny1556 Agreed, some of the coolest lore I’ve seen so far.
The gerbil thing is Mathis brothers furniture 😂
I didn’t say a word 😂
I looked it up thanks to you, and now I have the Eminem song "fack" going through my head 😂
Had to check that I wasn't the only one in the comments that knew exactly what he was talking about. 😂😂😂
When I was a kid in Tulsa, we called the brother's "Mattress Brothers". Today, from a very reliable source, one brother has been known to visit swinger's clubs.
He wrestled locally with the tri-state area a lot in the early 70s
An Oklahoma legend that used to be quite popular in the old days was Flower Mound Hill or some say Flowering Mound, a legendary hill said to be located around McAlester. I learned about it as a teenager from a local newspaper covering the legend. The hill allegedly contains a cave that leads to bizarre underground chambers and enormous staircases. The legend told that monsters or demonic creatures came out of the cave to hurt livestock and three young men encountered the monsters in person when they explored the cave in the early 1900s.
The young men were (according to the story) chased out of the underground chambers and up to the surface by bipedal monsters covered in hair and with clawed hands. One of the men was wounded by one of these monsters clawing him and they shot that particular creature with a pistol before escaping. The legend was popular enough when the local newspaper covered that story back around 2009, my grandmother said she remembered the legend from her time growing up in the area as a girl.
I remember when the Chinese city was found under Oklahoma city. I was living there at the time. There were pictures in the news papers. It was during renovation of down town. I was in high school at the time.
Thanks for the comment! It’s a heck of a story. Honestly I really feel for the folks that used to live in those conditions.
I've been in Oklahoma my whole life, and OKC for a bit, yet haven't heard of this. Can you link me?
@@BarelyCounts www.kgou.org/oklahoma-news/2018-03-20/how-curious-a-chinatown-underneath-oklahoma-city
@@foreverstorytime2566Thank you!! ❤
I can't imagine how the Chinese immigrants managed to create this city without anyone noticing. I can understand their fear of persecution, The double standards biased against them and any 'other than white' people were very well established, however. Thanks for sharing.
I went to college at Tahlequah which is the town nearby the grave of Mr Ed. For awhile there was a yearly concert event in that pasture called "Ed Fest" which was a play on the nearby Edge Fest concert series in Tulsa. It was pretty great.
Is the dude that made the video from Oklahoma? I'm only asking cuz that gerbil remark lol that is some goofy shit from back in the day that I don't know many younger kids that are from here even still heard of it, so I kinda find it hard to believe someone that ain't from here would have heard it lol it's funny he brought it up either way
Nope, I’m Ohio born and a TN native but I read a lot of old forums digging for urban legends/ghost stories/cryptids and the friggin’ gerbil story showed up too many times
I'm from Oklahoma grew up here and don't remember hearing about it....guess I better look it up
@@jrbubala at your own risk 😂
I no about this I'm from Southern Oklahoma 😂😂😂
Mathis's?
All I’m saying is as a resident Okie. The parallel forest is terrifying
Also a resident of the Wichita Mountains area, its not terrifying at all. I ammmm a ghost tho, so...
I took my children out there two weekends ago. It's not really scary, actually a really cool little trail.
I went to the parallel forest many times over the years. I never really thought of the forest as being scary, until I went there after dark. It is disorienting and very very dark.
What was scary was when I went back to my car and before we left we were just talking in my car. When suddenly, and without warning, we all heard this loud(like right outside the car) gutteral scream then heavy breathing. Since there are wild bison roaming around i assumed that's what it was. Started my car and drove off as quickly as i could (meaning i had to do a complete circle to exit.) But never saw a bison or any other animal. Haven't been back since.
Hello life long Oklahoman here. I've lived along the Arkansas River between Ponce City and Muskogee for most of my life.. Some friends of mine in grade school who are Ponca and Otoe Tribal members told me about an area cryptid or entity called Deer Woman. There are many stories about this thing and it is a well known legend among the locals in Kay County. I don't remember any in particular at the moment but it was terrifying to hear about as a kid. Always stuck with me. Could be a cool edition to the Oklahoma cryptids video
@@moseyballad7954 yep, the deer woman is scary! She’s covered in my cryptids of Ohio video 😀
@@foreverstorytime2566 oh okay il check that out
@@foreverstorytime2566 every state has their own versions of some of these cryptids I guess. I thought that only applied to Bigfoot
My neighbor who is native was telling me about the deer woman. Im not sure which town he said his family is from but there was apparently police dash cam footage of her floating around the community.
I've been on the "magnetic hill" and, illusion or not, it's crazy! I highly suggest anyone try itif they haven't been before. 😮🤯😂 I grew up in Edmond and we used to hangout in the woods where that Grandini's Circus is. I was the one who stumbled upon it. Just walking through the woods and BAM!!! A huge metal clown face!! 😱💩🤣 This was before the internet and trying to get people to believe there's a dilapidated circus practically in your backyard was pretty difficult. 😂😂😂
" That truck was goin' faster than a gerbil runnin past 3434 W Reno "
Bwahahahaahahaa!!!! LMAO
Matress Brothers
@@jasontilley71 now we know why he was always sittin' in a lazy boy on the TV lol
its pronounced HEAVE-in-er, but thanks for covering. That's the hometown!
Thanks for the tip on the pronunciation! Wouldn’t have missed it, though!
Hey I'm from heavener too
@@aggressiveprefector1 nice! I'm in The Fort now but I make trips back to get tacos from the place that's in the old general store lol how's things back home?
@@claywoodral7587 oh boring as always 😆
@@aggressiveprefector1 some things never change
"...Edmond's mild climate..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tell me you've never been to Oklahoma without telling me you've never been to Oklahoma. We have some of the wildest weather in the country, with temperatures varying from over 100° F to less than 10° F in the same year, with many tornadoes and wildfires every year as well. Such a mild climate!
I've been living in Moore, Ok. full time since about 86 (from Yukon, Ok.) but is spite of a Tornado once in a while I still tell friends that I'd rather live here than in the panhandle! MY GOD I think that has to be the hottest AND the coldest place you could live?
having grown up in Stillwater OK, when we were in school (Ages 8 or so), on recess breaks we would often all collectively try to dig a hole to China because we were told this tall tale that if you could dig deep enough, you would link up with the underground Chinese tunnels (the ones in OKC discussed above) and that these would lead us eventually to China........ The teachers never stopped us and eventually, we had a hole dug so deep that the school got in trouble from the city and had to get a dump truck brought in to fill it lol... no shit....we had it soo deep we were crafting terrace steps to safely descend to the bottom lol. I think the teachers never stopped us because well it was the 80's and no one was watching us, either that or they were just happy we students were cooperating with each other as opposed to say the usual favorite recess activity; beating the shit out of each other lol
This is amazing to read 😂. Back in the 90's at recess we'd used to dig our fair share of holes, but we also played "Dragon Ball Z"... which was just a giant game of beat the crud out of each other. Good times. My kids had better not beat anyone up at recess, though.
@@foreverstorytime2566 🤣your reply got me thinking about the time this one classmate of mine, at recess, sprained his ankle trying to prove that jumping on a turtle is one easy way to attain extra lives......Super Mario had just come out and Oila!!! Epilogue: The turtle was fine..... my classmate however was in tears and had to go home lol....1980's, what a decade🤘
Grew up in the 70’s, early 80’s in Ponca City, near you and we did that exact same thing. 😅
now i get why people were probably really joking/daring about various people digging holes to china
Born and raised moore Oklahoma, I'm so fucking proud of being an Oklahoman. Weird folklore for the win!
@@Courage_girl13 you should be proud! Thanks for the comment!
like all the tornados that keep hitting your town?
@@jch77 in our defense, we haven't had an F-5 in over a decade. Although at the same time, no one has.
In Hugo, Ok, where multiple circuses used to spend their Winters, there is a site called Mount Olivet Cemetery that contains the final resting places for many circus and rodeo performers, owners, and performing animals. Clowns! 😢 That is enough for me to call it creepy. Also, a real real re-entry vehicle is in Norman, Ok. Finally, the Masonic childern's home an orphanage in Guthrie.
@@muddy1052 thanks for the tips! Yep, covering a lot of these in my ghosts of Oklahoma video! Hadn’t heard of the real re-entry vehicle! I’ll look that up.
That orphanage in Guthrie was bought and remodeled into a home or some sort wedding venue I think.
They straight up killed her on a rainy night on Portland ave while she was heading to become a wistleblower
Yep, seems like it. Cowards
@@foreverstorytime2566 living in OKC this story is well known as a corp&gov cover up.
Her wrecked car was towed to Crescent and sat on Main St for months. Scratches along the side made it clear a red car ran her off the road.
@@foreverstorytime2566 horrible company. They polluted an entire neighborhood in Columbus, Mississippi with their creosote railroad tie treatment plant. Poisoned thousands, causing heath issues and many deaths in addition to wrecking the ground water. The lawsuit has been dragging out for years with none of the families ever receiving any compensation.
I was born in Tulsa, and my (now husband) proposed to me at the Center of the Universe. Even typing this, I can't help but smile fondly at the memory. 💜
@@ilikekoalaandalpacas what a beautiful place to propose! Congratulations!
Congratulations🎉
I've lived in Oklahoma my whole life, and I am aware of most of these legends. I've never heard of Gandini's Circus though. I just googled the location and realized I've been living less than a mile from it for over 30 years. In my defense, it's a very overgrown area, but I don't recall any locals talking about. I guess I should get out more?
I've lived in OKC my whole life myself and I'd never heard of it either.
I live across the street now, and don’t hear much about it. But growing up in edmond it was a huge deal in like high school.
You had me at Oklahoma...
My grandfather owned a ranch in SE Oklahoma that was once a dude ranch and before that, it was a school. It was an old, huge log cabin that had been bricked on the outside. There was a place on his land that was documented as Belle Starr's hideout. Sadly, the hillbillies around there didn't like outsiders, and they burned down the main building that still had all of the guest log books from the dude ranch that had Gene Autry's signature in it. The old horse head shaped pool is still there to this day, but it is half filled in with dirt, so it isn't recognizable from Google earth.
I am surprised you didn't mention the tunnels that still exist under downtown OKC today. I use to walk underground from the parking garage bu the Murrah Building to Leadership Square, completely underground. There are still shops there and restaurants where workers could eat lunch without having to drive anywhere.
@@themrsedmonson thank you for the comment! I should have mentioned the modern tunnels and their distinction, yes
@@foreverstorytime2566 Lots of burnt down houses in leach Oklahoma. Someo f them are filled with children's toys, its very strange...
I remember visiting Gene Autry, Oklahoma. There are some cool photos online of back when it had a different name and a larger population.
Dunno if the museum there still exists or not.
I love how your Oklahoma video is catching up to your Ohio video, just shows the weirdness of Oklahoma.
I hope that OK beats it, “Flyover state” my a**!
@@foreverstorytime2566 Oklahoma has gotta become the new Ohio XD
You are wrong that no proof was found about the Chinese tunnels. Downtown OKC has has a tunnel system with businesses to this day. When building the modern tunnel system, the Chinese tunnels where found. I used to work in the OKC underground. It's history is quite interesting.
@@MikeMookie From what I read the OKC underground construction only found isolated rooms dug underground, not series of tunnels connecting place to place.
@foreverstorytime2566 no, there are definitely connected tunnels.
@foreverstorytime2566 the OKC underground association has plenty of photographic proof.
Geary Oklahoma
We’re still alive.
Mostly, some are twitching.
Holy shit😭 y'all fr alive down there?
If you like Oklahoma folklore, please, please, please check out local historian Jeff Provine. He’s an absolute gem.
Looking him up right now, thanks for the tip!
I grew up near the Wichitas. I read the iron door story in the book Coranado’s Children. As a teenager in the 1970’s I looked for the iron door. I am very very familiar with the elk mountain area having explored it extensively. But of course I never found the door.
Well, I hope for your sake one day you can stumble on that door. I might need to pick that book up, sounds fun.
Discovering an actual urban legend like that would he mind blowing.
I live near Oologah Lake and the space capsule is still there even amid construction! Hopefully it will stay that way because the locals would not be happy if it went away haha
HEY YOU TUBE!!! This guy's alright & No left. So please amplfy.
🤣 thank you so much!
Binge watching your vids. Keep them coming.
"Underground city" is a bit of a stretch. Anyone from OKC, or Oklahoma in general, can tell you that underground anything is not that common. It's why we don't have nearly enough storm shelters. Blame the red clay dirt.
Addicted to these state urban legends!
Many more on the way!
0:22 You’re going to bring up the magical spot where your car spontaneously rolls uphill, aren’t you?
@@Lopfff just for a minute 😂
The Purple Church. I've visited the site. Gives off an eeire and gross vibe.
23:50 you are accurate. There's a lot of location like that all over Oklahoma. We have so much hills so you can easily be fouled
Live right by the abandoned circus, went there a lot as a kid and teen, it’s pretty creepy, lots of homeless live there and sleep there at night now
Oh wow, sounds dangerous for them. Those things look like they’re falling apart. I suppose it’s better than being exposed to the elements.
Been to gandinis circus as recent as 2024. Stuffs still there. Definitely one of the cooler easy to get to abandoned places in Oklahoma. Probably the most well known and accessible one in the state. Its essentially a small forest where homeless sleep. During storms. Ran into a cool dude chillin like a cliche railroad hobo. Shared a few beers and talked about life choices. Definitely a nice place
I think Cher played her in the movie Silkwood.
Lifetime Okie here. That was a cool list. The Winganon cspdule is still there. I think most of Belle Stars activity with JJ was in the San Bois and Ouchita pronouncef Wash-e-tau mountians. Some of the coolest things I like to chrck out are ghosttowns. Several of the lakes have perserved towns with cars and everything from bsck in the 40's and 50's. Pitcher was abandoned because of an ecological disater in the early 80's and is a pretty creepy place with everything just left as it was because it was all contaminated. Good viddy.
I'll have to see if I can find a alien mannequin. I'm going past the Space Capsule on the way to Allen's point to fish tomorrow.
Incredible 😂. Hope you have a good catch!
I hope you do my homestate of Pennsylvania! Love your videos!
@@threestoogescritic3280 thank you! I’ve seen a lot of PA requests! It’s on my shortlist
When I was younger, I used to ride in the local youth rodeo in Edmond directly across from Gandini’s Circus. I was back there a couple months ago, and while the circus equipment is still there, it’s in pretty bad shape, and the plot is extremely overgrown. No development has started yet.
@@bread-kp5mg thanks for the local insight! Yeah, I worry for folks who trespass there. Even if they’re ultimately in the wrong, the stuff looked like it was gonna fall apart.
I worked in the red brick condos that are behind the hex house property and they are in my opinion haunted. I heard noises as if someone was playing up stairs and it was loud. It happened several times with several different contractors and workers hearing the noises as well.
Interesting! Think the building is haunted? Any weird history there other than the “hex house” ordeal?
As in gerbils and furniture store owners?
@@AmericanRationalist 😂 yep, but I’m not telling that story.
My grandad had a map to Jesse’s gold. He searched for years until he was no longer able. He sold the map to someone else. There’s one born every minute
The dust bowl was in the 1930s
You’re referring to Jesse James?
A Belle Star story!! You really are alright!
She was the baddest in the whole west from the sounds of it. Love me some outlaw stories.
As an oklahoman, I can confirm we are weird as hell.
Oklahoma is a very strange place.
especially with some of the naming conventions in the state.
thanks for the video, learned lots of new things.
had heard the one about the shore lines before, But it was a lot more specific. saying not that Oklahoma had the most coastline, just that the combined coastline was longer than that of the east coast.
@@herddragon9215 interesting. Now that specific coastal distance I could actually see OK (and many other states) beating.
Lot of the small towns are eery. I live in spencer. Weird town.
i drive past that spot on 21st everyday, where the original hex house used to be. i had no clue that was anything more than a christian haunted house attraction.
Glad I could add a little spice to your daily drive
I've seen a few people in my home town that could've been classified as cryptids themselves
Rest in Peace Bamboo Harvester 🙏
They were always excited for Groundhog Day
Both sides of the family were originally from Oklahoma. One side the Lees had a 1500 acres farm close to where OKC is now. The area was called long river, or long creek? 1900 to 1930s.
Trying to track down more information abou this area.
Really loving these longer form videos!
Thanks! They’re a lot of fun to make, and I really don’t think the old 5-urban legend format did these great states justice!
Step daughter of MBs head of security and loss prevention for 20 years (during the "gerbal" incident) 😂😂😂 I'm dead. Petty beyond petty. Adultery can lead to all sorts of rumors
Much love! The tunnels in OKC are now a giant museum ! The entrance of them is by the Skirvin Hilton!
I’m a born Okie living in Osage County, OK. Well on my way to 70, I was today years old when I learned that the Karen Silkwood story took place in Oklahoma. 🤦♀️ As for folklore, we used to go to a bridge way out in the country to tempt the Catman to come scare us. Catman was said to have glowing red eyes. Never personally had any contact, thankfully. We also have a gravity hill out toward Matoaka. Interesting video, thanks for covering Oklahoma without portraying us Okies as unkempt and unintelligent.
@@kassandralevingston9874 why would anyone portray Oklahoma natives as dumb?? You’ve got so much to be proud of. Beautiful wilderness. Great universities. Rich history. I’d be happy to tell anyone who says otherwise to shove it 😂
@@foreverstorytime2566 People often only see us on the news when a tornado has struck. They see us at our worst. Maybe I’m just a little too sensitive. Thank you for your kind words about the people of Oklahoma.
As a Texan who is staying in Tulsa, Oklahoma for school, this is pretty interesting to hear my adopted homes weird folklore!
Though, I do remember driving by the Space Capsule with my family! We were driving one night from a relative's house (about half of my family is from Oklahoma so I spent a lot of my childhood taking roadtrips up there) we passed by this strange shiny thing, thinking "What in the world was that?!" We turned around and sure enough, it was a space capsule! We decided to come back the next morning (after googling what it was) and got a few pictures with it.
Why does every Midwest state claim to have the most shoreline, I’ve heard people say the same thing about Missouri, Iowa, Kentucky and probably some other places that definitely don’t have the most shoreline.
Sulfur OK, is supposed to have healing springs. So, that would go with the water idea you mentioned.
great channel. keep it up.
Doing my best. Thank you!
The gerbils thing is an unconfirmed rumor about the Mathis Brothers, probably started by rightfully disgruntled ex employee. It also came out around the same thing was said about Richard Gere.
I’m from Oklahoma and this is amazing
So glad you enjoyed!
Um, was casually watching this totally not expecting Belle Starr to be mentioned. She’s a relative of mine on my grandmothers paternal side. It’s kind of a joke in our family.
@@aidanb8928 what a person to be related to, wow!
@@foreverstorytime2566I actually currently live in the house in Oklahoma built in the late 1800s by that same side of my family. Starr’s married Markham’s. Great video, I’ll have to send it to my family!
In Weatherford oklahoma theres also a house right down the streat from braums just like 2 blocks and a woman and her husband were nurdered in the living room and if you google maps the address you can still see her standing onnthe front porch. My friend lived in that house it had cold and sad energy it was depressing
407 East Franklin avenue is the address but I just looked and ig the pictures are updated but when my friends told me about it I looked it up and seen her
Thanks for this. I’ll see if I can find some info!
The gerbil story is just like the girl in high school who got stuck on the bedpost. All BS every school in every state has the bedpost story lol
Im from tulsa and people have some wild legends here like the ghosts of gays on turkey mountain, and people around where i live believe the events of the tulsa race massacre left a mark, spirits and residual energy from the horrific violent erasure and disposal of all those lives. i used to live in talequah for a while and everybody has wild stories of stuff in the woods, some of the weirdest shit thats ever happened to me was while i lived there. Alot of unexplainable and paranormal stuff happens in both places though
My boyfriend in the 1970’s had an uncle up in Tennessee whose home was on a mountain up just off of I-40. We went camping up on the site atop that mountain. Frank James is was supposed to have been buried right there atop that mountain. Interesting history.
Only half way thru the vid but…it’s Kerr, like “”kur”. Just saying. 😊
You should include a video that tells the story of Chilocco. It was a school for Indians. I knew a lady who along with her younger sister were forced as young girls to attend after their father was killed in a cattle truck accident in Oklahoma. Their mom had to give them up as she could not afford to feed and care for them alone. The lady I knew who once attended the school had no harsh feelings about it. She was at peace with anything that had occurred in life so long ago.
LMAO @ Gandini's Circus! We lived about 1/2 mile from this place on Fretz Ave. My kids used to ride their bikes to the the location and explore!!
Worked as a haunter at hex house for a couple years. Its a cool little story that the haunt still encourages actors to look into to prep for haunt season. Pretty decent haunt for a bit, but i quit this past year so i have no clue how its doing now. I suggest checking out Asylum in Nowata or the scarefarm (not sure of the name rn) in tulsa
From Tulsa. It’s cool to see these stories come together work pictures of the people
as a resident of edmond, i can confirm Gandini's circus sonic and vape shop lol
I'm sure someone in the comments already mentioned it but with all the lakes that you mentioned I was surprised you didn't mention Optima the lake that never filled. it's near Guymon, where that long boring road is between Kansas & Texas.
Also in Oklahoma traffic cones are part of the esthetic once they go out on the road for construction they live there for 5 years. And when the construction is finished the road is not any better then before it started.
It’s all a charade!!!
Z104.5 The Edge??? That’s interesting!! That’s our alt rock station. 😊
Well if I’m in the area I know what I’ll be listening to! Yep!
Hey y'all ❤
Howdy doody!
@carolescutt2257 hey Southern girl! from a Bama girl's daughter :)
I've been to the carnival. AMA
I’m just impressed he pronounced Skiatook correctly.
I looked it up!!!
Thats crazy, Belle Starr is my great great aunt. I wasn't expecting to see her in this.
No way!
Drove past the parking lot where the Hex House used to be yesterday, and saw a couple of people walking around with what looked like EMF readers. Couldn't help but wonder if they were getting daytime EMF readings to compare to a nighttime investigation. As a fifth generation Tulsan, I know this area well, and my grandparents would often just shake their head when we would drive by.
@@beckf1858 classic ghost hunters. Hey, at least it’s scientific of them to look for some sort of “control”
Great channel, man
Thank you so much, really appreciate it!
Somehow “The Parallel Forest” is less creepy than “The Cedar Planting”
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Ha ha ha - the gerbil story. My husband used to work for him. So, IYKYK. Thanks for not being that weird.
😂
I really enjoyed this video. I hope you have Robber's Cave in one of these videos about Oklahoma. It's a state park now days near Wilburton. When we were kids we were told by our sadistic parents to go into the caverns and look for the robber's gold that they buried there. We were told about all the famous outlaws who hid there from the law. Also there was supposed to be an ancient Indian burial ground. If you accidentally walked over it, then the Indian ghosts would haunt you. So we spent hours with other kids looking for gold and hoping that we didn't accidentally walk over an ancient Indian's burial site. It certainly made it the best place to swim and climb rocks when we were kids in the 70s. I believe the parents had a little extra fun scaring us and getting us excited to find that gold so we could get a new bike or whatever was on the top of your Christmas list. On another note we were told emphatically that the gerbil story came from Hollywood from Richard himself. Of course we also believed you heard satanic messages if you played certain records backwards.
Thank you so much for all of the local insight! I’ll need to follow up on this at some point!
From the sound to the visuals, everything is perfect, creating an absolutely terrifying experience! I couldn't take my eyes off the screen!
@@EchoesEerie so glad you enjoyed! Really trying to “up my game”!
I lived in Tulsa for 45 years, then moved east but still in the state. I spent a lot of time as a teen at the Center of the Universe. It's a weird, trippy experience! Saw 2 couples there get mugged though, we just looked like poor stoner teens so they didn't even mess with us.
I've seen the Heavner Rune, I'm not sure really. I don't deny it either though. It does look like a very old carving to me, who knows. Maybe they weren't actually from Europeans, but communicated across the continent through the natives by those that actually met them near the north east coasts?
Now, I currently live about 10 minutes from Mr. Ed! 🐴😅 It is on private property, but they welcome respectful visitors.
I've driven from end to end on 412, it's literally torture!!! I actually went off on state highways the long way because it was so boring.
Thanks for the comment! Nice idea in the natives learning to write in runes from Vikings, certainly possible!
That's funny, I grew up a few blocks away from the hex house and never heard of it until now. Great stories! The one I remember from back then was the screaming bridge out in Broken Arrow, OK.
Glad I could teach you at least one thing, and so glad you enjoyed!
@27:38 can confirm u are correct
I literally live 499 feet from where the Hex House was (I googled the location after this video) and I had never heard the story until this video. I literally can see the location from my front porch. Always wondered about those stairs.. very cool video.
So dang cool! Thank you for your comment!
I’m from Oklahoma and I have a feeling that RUclips knew because I saw this on my recommended!
RUclips knows all. The moment I started researching for this video (not on RUclips) I started getting OK RUclipsrs recommended to me (which is pretty awesome to be honest).
My grandmother lives in sasakwa, Oklahoma and there was a lot of nights at 3am me and my bf at the time would go out for a really late cigarette, we would be talking and just trying to be quiet as to not wake my grandmother but we would always hear what would start as a rhythmic screeching that kinda sounded like an old metal door but then- it would turn into what sounded like two creatures talking to each other in this weird screeching language it was obviously two because they would almost be talking over on another the only thing that makes me truly believe it wasn’t doors of a building is because sasakwa had a population of like 100 people and I would time out the screeching noises and they definitely didn’t have any rythem to them at all anymore and I even heard leaves crunching like something was fast walking over where we were standing outside we would always get to scared to stay out there to long and ran back inside
I used to have a recording of them talking but I since lost that phone
Never knew that about the Tulsa Hex house, and my grandparents lived down the street when I was a kid. We always wondered what it was
@@russelldevore212 glad I could teach you something! Thanks for chiming in!
All the Wichita mountains gold/treasure info is interesting, but seeing as Ft Sill owns most of that land, if there was any "treasure" I'm sure it's either been found or destroyed by artillery fire.
Highly likely, but we can dream
as someone who's passed through winganon recently, it is still there
Heck yeah!
You pronounced Heavner wrong. Think of dry heaving when you pronouce the first part of the name. Long E.
was looking to see if someone said this
OKLAHOMA MENTIONED WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The James gang stole more money than they could use. They would not do one big stash, rather a bunch of small caches here and there. A suitcase with some money, clothes and a boot gun.
Somewhere around Cement Oklahoma
As with any of these gold treasure stories..if someone has already found it do you think they would go public
It depends. Some, like me, would probably want to share the story due to the cultural significance. I’m honestly not sure I could sleep well at night knowing I found something so important and hid it from the world.