Opinions on all The K-Pop Winners And Performances From The “2024 Billboard Music Awards”? Here are the nominations and winners: *Top K-Pop Touring Artist* For this category, ENHYPEN, TXT, and SEVENTEEN were nominated for the award, SEVENTEEN were announced as the winner *Top Global K-Pop Artist* ENHYPEN, BTS‘s Jimin, BTS’s Jungkook, Stray Kids and TXT were all nominated for this award, and Stray Kids were announced winners. *Top Global K-Pop Song* For this category, ILLIT‘s “Magnetic,” BTS Jimin’s “Who,” LE SSERAFIM‘s “Perfect Night,” and Jungkook’s “Standing Next To You” and “3D (featuring Jack Harlow) were all nominated. *Top K-Pop Album* For this category, ATEEZ’s The World EP.Fin: Will, Jungkook’s Golden, TXT‘s The Name Chapter: Freefall, Stray Kids’ 樂-STAR, and ATE albums were nominated for the award.
1: Why is this laptop thing even a debate? Isn't it not HYBE’s property? Doesn’t matter if it’s packed with personal info-if it’s not yours, it can be taken back at any time. And honestly, which dumbass decides to put personal stuff on a work laptop and then cry about it? You knew it was a company device the second you started using it for personal reasons. Saying, “Oh, but it has my personal information on it, so I can’t give it back” is just ridiculous. Like, what? That’s on you for mixing work and personal. It’s basic logic-it’s HYBE/ADOR’s property. Surely this is in their company policies; it’s standard everywhere. Just because you’re allowed to use it for both work and personal stuff doesn’t magically make it yours. Like think about it this way: you borrow a school laptop till you finish school-why would you dump all your personal details into a device that isn’t even yours to begin with? 😂
ENGENEs and MYs need a fandom clean ASAP, especially ENGENEs. They need to understand that ENHYPEN are not their significant others and probably have someone lying in their bed right now.
EXACTLY as an engene myself I understand making jokes and ACTING delulu and stuff but spreading hate 2 seconds after photos come out is genuinely insane. Like there was a Korean fan who when the accusations came out made a video painting over jw face with NAIL POLISH and once jungwon cleared his and winters name she made another vid taking it off 😭 the descriptions on both were sickening. Because I’m not a MY I haven’t personally seen the hate for winter but I’ve heated it was BAD. It’s disgusting how some fans can’t handle their idols being people ffs
Is funny how ppl that are defending Nj is saying “oh but ador is harassing the staff taking the laptops “ But the reality was that Nj manager later admitted to reaching investors and deals for Nj excluding ador and hybe. That’s bad and sabotaging contract! Hate hybe all you want but hybe is right here.
Thank you for speaking on Keena. One thing I think people miss is that keeping the name and releasing new music under the name helps Keena legally fight for the credits on Cupid that the givers stole from her. It’s a smart legal move to ensure she gets what she deserves.
4th gen also started with grps like skz,gidle,the boyz,etc who were not very popular during their debut but slowly started rising from 2020-2021.Give the 5th gen grps sm time
Why are y'all in such a hurry with groups that have just debuted?? Nobody debuts with guaranteed fame, let the rookies be rookies and experice their pace. Also y'all said the same with 4th gen like be fr
@@minjuscookie EXACTLY the problem is 5th gen is literally just so messy its all over the place with no correlation and it doesn't help half of the group names are actually so random and all over the place as well?!
The fact that kpop industry rather keep pushing new groups every other year like a new iPhone. Might be another reason why the industry is crap. It’s just too much. People have an attention span of a squirrel. It’s saturated.
@@minjuscookieThat's why their new groups will have more impact in making Fandom. Baemon already got some portion of Vips, Blinks, Blackjack, Iconic, Inner circle and trs maker. Cause for them, every new group feels exclusive and premium. Idk about the upcoming boy group though cause the timeline will be very similar to Baemon.
Again. I'll scream this from a rooftop. IDOLS DONT OWE FANS ANYTHING. Jungwon and Winter was js existing, they dont need to explain anything to anyone of these tragic fans
@MsRainyStarzz Yes, some fans are toxic and totally stupid, but you still have to please your fans (even when they are dead wrong, like the Le Sserafim drama), that is the name of the game: if fans don't like you or if you don't have fans, you won't stay Idol very long. Your popularity is your only asset as an Idol. They know it and they have to comply, whether they like it or not.
4: "Coasting along"? That’s a take. Let’s break it down. First off, 5th gen just started. You’re comparing a few months of activity to the years it took 4th gen giants to "shatter records." Groups like IVE, AESPA, NEWJEANS, and LESSERAFIM didn’t come out the gate as instant legends; they built up momentum. Expecting 5th gen to dominate the same way immediately is setting a ridiculous standard. Second, if you actually pay attention, 5th gen groups are making waves. BABYMONSTER had one of the most hyped debuts of the year, and RIIZE, (and many other groups), are pulling crazy numbers on the charts and fan engagement-numbers that even some senior groups would envy. Just because they're not the talk of every global platform yet doesn’t mean they're "getting overshadowed." Also, let’s not pretend the K-pop market is stagnant. The spotlight isn't stolen forever; it's constantly shifting. 5th gen groups are finding their footing, building their identities, and capturing different audiences. Dismissing them now is shortsighted at best. So, nah. They’re not "coasting"; you’re just impatient.
4:21 anyone saying this lives under a rock. Babymonster is performing at the kspo dome after 1.1 years since debut and might I add they sold out in 8 minutes, magnetic was the #1 contender for SOTY against supernova. Wake up people
Hell, even 3rd gen isn't done yet. BTS, TWICE and SVT are still grinding as groups, many 3rd gen idols are still releasing music as solo like BP members and they are still in high demand. If you think 5th gen and their 14-15year old idols can achieve things that idols in their late 20's are achieving now, you are just putting delusional expectations on them.
Some Kpop fans are SO disconnected from reality they forget how a big, legally formed, corporation works. Or perhaps they are jobless and have never even stepped foot into the real world yet to know all this. Either way, its pathetic to see them be so dumb, like guys, KEEP YOUR PHONE DOWN AND GO OUTSIDE, GET A LIFE, TOUCH SOME GRASS. You'll see how the world works then.
2. Again, CANNOT believe how disconnected from the reality you have to be to start losing your shit over a celebrity dating. Like, tf? Girl, did you think you had a chance? Someone's feeling too important.
Cause Kpop is oversaturated at this point, too many labels, too many debuts. If a group 'flops' they really didn't it's just that their are too many groups and songs to keep up with.
That’s what delusional K-pop fans do, roll out nonsense without fact checking their words no any logical or critical thinking. And the emotional blinded ones will believe that shit😂
Didnt ador ask that poor manager before to hand them over for investigation? Thats a company's basic right lmao. Someone wouldnt hesitate to do that if they have nothing to hide yk
2: "Meanwhile, ENHYPEN's fans acted like the world was ending, which is pretty on brand for a fandom that lost it's collective minds over female backup dancers." YOU DID NAWT- 💀💀😭😭🤣🤣
The 5th gen is good, all the bad PR the 5th gen groups have gotten is probably just coming from the Min heejin rumor factory because she hated all competition against Newjeans. From the start she has seen herself in opposition to everyone who might be considered Newjeans competition, all because she wanted Newjeans to be for her what BTS was for Bang Si Hyuk. But it's not even true that the 5th gen isn't making waves, Illit broke 10 year old records with their debut, and now they just broke another record by being the first group to reach 500 million streams on their debut song within a certain number of days. It will take a while before anyone breaks these records condering that someone with explosive popularity like Newjeans didn't even do it. I think thats waves enough.
The Nj manager learnt from the best. The story with the laptop is exact same as what happened with their jezebel witch. She refused to return the laptop to date. Her (bad) influence is so strong on the people she worked with 💀
9: The song’s got all the typical idol ballad vibes: emotional, dramatic, and perfect for showing off those killer vocals. But what sets it apart for me is the rock guitar. It starts off all soft and pretty with the strings-super OST-core-but then slowly builds into something massive. It’s got that cozy, seasonal feel, but by the time the guitar kicks in during the pre-chorus, it starts getting gritty in the best way. The chorus could’ve hit harder melody-wise, but it’s still got a ton of weight and drama that makes it satisfying. It feels like the song shifts from this gentle, sentimental vibe to full-on cinematic action movie energy, and that growth is what makes it work so well. It’s definitely a standout for me.
Generations don’t matter. Bts, blackpink and svt still going strong although in 3rd gen, stray kids debuting barely in 4th gen is out here still growing and competing with western artists, ateez also barely making it into 4th gen still growing
Enhyphen are so unlucky with their fans😂😂😂 like imagine being toxic about yr idol dating when you could never in yr life date that idol, like let idols start sueing for fake rumors
@vaish9962 I feel sorry for kpop idols tho 😭😭😭 imagine a grown woman crying over a guy u won't even be able in your afterlife date or get married, Just be a fan and be supportive, most kpop fans are too obsessive, even the companies makes things worst ☠️☠️☠️
Tbh aside from some k/c fans , i didnt see much of hate from engenes this time.. or maybe my timeline was good ,coz many were mad at belift and sasaengs
I actually really like multiple versions lol. I like being able to pick which concept and aesthetic my albums have versus having to settle for one basic one.
i hate the hate against new fifty fifty. every single post with the group is filled with "boycott new fifty fifty". how about you boycott the three greedy members that tried to trick keena into wasting years of her life for more money. the girls can't even perform in peace gosh
$117 to see Gfriend? I'd pay that in an instant. Trying to watch Kpop live shows in the UK you have to expect to be charged over £200 for the chance to be in a cheap back seat.
Fairss I guess it depends on how your like when you spend money. No way am I spending money for a concert ticket that costs over 500+ I'll spend that on something else tyvm 😊
9: I think CARATS will get this: It feels like a sequel to the IMA MV, especially with how the members hug each other so lovingly. And the fact that Scoups, SEVENTEEN’s leader, held onto their family portrait from the IMA MV like it's forever? So wholesome and heartwarming 🥺💖. It’s like they’re saying, no matter what happens, their love for each other will never fade, and SEVENTEEN will always stick together 💫💞😭😩
No one knows a single song from best selling kpop albums these days (ofc there are few exceptions) like you don't have to make songs just put some photo cards and a big azz photo book those fans would throw money left and right they don't even stream title track to make it less obvious
With 49 Taylor Swift' Grammy i don't know any of her song. And people like me, millions and millions in the world. Many people even have no idea, who she is. But also millions and millions of people know her and her songs and is listening them every day. If you can't named song from best selling albums, that doesn't mean that other also.
You speak english because of taylor swift and consuming american western culture. SO what do you actually know about anything? You're an ignorant teeny bopping wimp@@sanyk-t6c
as a person who met kpop at it's third generation but only got to really enjoy it at it's fourth and now am only navigating through groups, I miss the good ol' days when having female backup dancers were not compared as launching a nuclear attack, when interaction between female and male groups in music shows, awards and variety shows wasn't deemed on backlash, why are people so dumb nowadays? It's so toxic, I just wish to protect the idols sometimes, especially the newer ones, they've got no idea what they're signing up for, one can't be human in this industry, and when companies resort to virtual or mocap idols, they say they're replacing people for machines, well, I'm not a big fan of AI created idols, but I'm not against using motion-capture, the way plave does, because it keeps the humans behind the idols safe, they can have a normal life, be who they are, date, spend time with families, or at least it is more normal to some degree... to sum it up: what the hell happened to K-pop fans and industry?
6: First of all, "looking pretty" and performing are not mutually exclusive. Idols like Yuna and Wonyoung are constantly scrutinized for their visuals-by fans and critics alike-so of course that aspect is part of their performance. But to reduce their entire stage presence to just "a calculated visual algorithm"? That’s unfair and honestly a lazy take. These are idols who’ve trained for years to master vocals, dance, and stage presence. You think they hit every move, nail every note, and command a global audience by just standing there looking pretty? If they look effortless, it’s because they’re damn good at what they do. Maybe you’re mistaking professionalism and polish for "android-like" perfection. And let’s not act like being "self-aware" on stage is a bad thing. They know what fans expect, they know what the industry demands, and they’re delivering it. That’s not a flaw-it’s part of why they’re dominating. So, yeah, maybe take a step back and appreciate the grind instead of nitpicking their perfection.
Вы не поняли претензию к ним, и доказали её. "Они делают то, что от них ожидают фанаты" - в этом проблема. Они БОЯТСЯ выглядеть не идеально/реально (по мнению фанатов), и позволяют им и далее задирать планку.
@@sanyk-t6cNope, I understood the claim just fine; you’re the one spinning it into something it’s not. Let’s dissect your point: you’re blaming Yuna and Wonyoung for being too good at meeting fan expectations. Really? That’s like criticizing a chef for making their food taste exactly how the customers love it. The issue isn’t with them; it’s with the so-called "fans" who demand this level of perfection. Maybe redirect your frustration there. You say they’re "afraid of not looking perfect." No, they’re not afraid-they’re professionals. They understand the industry they’re in: one built on visuals and talent. If they occasionally lean into their strengths (which, surprise, includes looking stunning), that’s a calculated choice, not fear. Perfectionism in their field is a sign of mastery, not weakness. And let’s get one thing straight: they aren’t the ones raising the bar-you are. Fans and critics constantly nitpick every angle, every move, every expression, then turn around and blame the idols for keeping up with these absurd expectations. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. So, no, the problem isn’t Yuna and Wonyoung being "too perfect." The problem is people like you refusing to acknowledge their hard work and boiling their artistry down to aesthetics just because they make it look easy. That’s not on them-that’s on you.
@_JustArandomMultistan_ мои ульты в этой индустрии, это Yuqi, Soyeon and Jisoo. И я видел десятки видео на которых они выглядят не идеально. Вспомнить хотя бы ноздрю Jisoo. Или Soyeon, девушку которую ненавидели за внешний вид, без профессионального макияжа. Или Yuqi доказывающую, что отрыжка и пускание газов - ЭТО НОРМАЛЬНО, и демонстрирующая это. И именно этим они и притягивают к себе, они НАТУРАЛЬНЫЕ (насколько возможно в этой индустрии). А теперь вопрос к тебе, Wonyong может сделать тоже, или ей нужно быть идеальной 24/7, чтобы не потерять так называемых "фанатов"? Она стала заложником своего же идеального образа, как ты этого не понимаешь? В глазах случайного человека (следящего за К-попом ), она превратилась в образ, в идеальную куклу, готовую улыбаться без остановки и принимать идеально выверенные позы, по первому щелчку её "фанатов". И ты смеешь утверждать, что это моя вина?
@@sanyk-t6cFirst off, let's talk about the whole "natural" thing. You’re right-everyone has flaws, and idols like Jisoo, Soyeon, and Yuqi are celebrated for showing their human side. But guess what? That doesn’t make Wonyoung, or anyone else, less authentic. It just means you’ve decided to frame "realness" in one narrow way, and you’re using that to criticize other idols for not conforming to that ideal. You bring up Yuqi passing gas and Soyeon without professional makeup as "real moments." Sure, they're relatable, but they don’t prove anything about the "naturalness" of a performer. Everyone in the industry is aware of the camera's gaze. Whether you're showing raw, unfiltered moments or keeping things polished, it doesn’t take away from the fact that they’re still being themselves. This whole “natural vs. perfect” argument is tired and limiting. Now, Wonyoung-she’s not a hostage to her image. She’s shaped her image, just like every successful idol. There's power in embracing a persona, in controlling how you present yourself. It’s not about being “perfect” 24/7. It’s about being consistent, professional, and owning the image you choose. So, no, she doesn’t need to be called perfect all the time-but she's damn good at her craft, which is why she gets the attention she does. And this idea that "she turned into an image" is just your way of excusing your bias against her. Every idol has an image-that’s the job. Wonyoung has created hers, just like Jisoo and Soyeon have, and if you’re not okay with her version of “real,” that’s a personal issue, not hers. Don’t try to spin her success into a prison; she’s thriving by making choices, not by being a puppet to fans or perfection. So, yeah, your problem isn’t with her being fake-it’s that you’ve decided to hold her to a standard that’s based on your own distorted version of "authenticity." And again, that’s not on her. It’s on you.
@_JustArandomMultistan_ и снова тоже самое. Вы не понимаете одну простую вещь, это в её сторону (Wonyong) НЕ КРИТИКА И НЕ ХЕЙТ от меня. Меня беспокоит, та ментальная нагрузка, с которой она сталкивается ПОСТОЯННО. Я на 99% уверен что она с ней справиться, она профессионал в этой индустрии и знает как в ней работать. Но я опасаюсь этого 1%, что она просто устанет. П.С. Научитесь понимать что вам пишут другие, это поможет в общении. П.П.С хватит обвинять людей в том, к чему они не имеют никакого отношения.
They still have 15 million listeners on Spotify which is much more than some famous groups with recent comebacks(. I won't name them) Guess people forget how much influence they have globally...Even my non kpop friends said Newjeans is the only k-group they can listen to
@@minjuscookie 😂 They're bots hun. There was no one to support NJ at a recent award show. Mhj even thanked their personal streaming team. 💀. And monthly listeners doesn't mean 15M ppl are listening to them, it can vary cuz of heavy playlisting.
5:18 1st of all 5th Gen came outta nowhere, that’s why their was confusion and consistent debate when 5th Gen stepped in the scene cuz it seemed way too soon. The fact that ppl consider NewJeans to be 5th Gen when they literally debuted alongside IVE, Lesserafim, Kep1er, and NMIXX is insane to me. And right after New Jeans debuted ppl labeled any groups that was following their influence in Style and Sound as 5th Gen??? Like that made no sense to me cuz following style and sound trend is very common in kpop, but okay🤷♂️?? Like, I literally considered ZB1 a 4th Gen Group until everyone dictated other wise. Like how did we shift an entire generation when IVE, Lesserafim, NMIXX, etc. had barely touched the stage??? TWICE, Blackpink, and Redvelvet were active for almost 4-5 years before 4th Gen Started (I believe), so the random shift from 4th to 5th Gen was insane to me. Also how are we expecting 5th Gen Groups to match the success and popularity of groups like IVE, NewJeans, and Lesserafim??? These groups had amazing History and Companies on their favor with NewJeans having Min Hee Jin on their team and HYBE funding and Promoting them, and IVE and Lesserafim each having to former IZ*ONE members, and Lesserafim having 3 Produce 48 Contestants in General (with added controversy giving them much attention at the time👀). BabyMonster interest fluctuates as constantly as Ocean Waves. Their debut was postponed, their real debut was missing their most popular member, their fake debut (1st Comeback) was a catchy yet annoying song (based on majority opinion), and both “debuts” were lack luster (based on majority opinion at the time). Having controversies about Group Cohesiveness and Over/Under performing, and debates abt vocal ability; they got too much goin on and it’s not helping them much (at least internationally). The issue with other 5th Gen groups is the fact that everyone is just trynna keep up with the Fad and originality is rare unless you’re from the bigger companies. Everyone’s just trynna make money, so they’re following the current like fish, aimless and lacking creativity.
imho some kpop fans are so oblivious about their behavior it is absurd. a great example is the twice solo situation where everyone was arguing about how tzuyu didn’t deserve to go solo but jeongyeon did. firstly; jeongyeon was bullied for something she couldn’t control and people STILL want to say that she was being ‘mistreated’ since she didn’t go solo. not only that, one key reason that tzuyu went solo was that people said she was being ‘mistreated’ (she should have gotten more screentime but she wasn’t being mistreated) and because of that higher ups thought giving her a solo would stop the uproars about tzuyu being mistreated and ignored. people always want to say they both are mistreated but the second that jeongyeon would’ve went solo you guys would rip her to shreds. as much as we love jeongyeon we shouldn’t be mad at her for not going solo or at tzuyu for stealing the solo opportunity from other members. we should respect jeonyeons choice and appreciate it as it is. just my take though 🤷♂️
@@Harai2Momo quite literally, if all twice members had a solo their schedules would overlap. its always “we want solos!” until they give the most popular member one then called mistreatment.
@@minjuscookie tzuyu is capable but when compared to nayeon and jihyo she isn’t AS capable, and jeongyeon doesn’t want to go solo anyways so it shouldn’t matter. they are both capable but its not like they WANT to. jeongyeon has the best voice imo followed by jihyo, so she has that but would lack the sp not because she doesn’t have it but because she doesn’t even want to be there.
When you have millions of people criticising your every single move, look, expression, smile, and body language, the self-awareness will never turn down a notch. Plus, yeah, putting Yuna or Wonyoung was a wrong example. These two deliver amazing performances idc what anyone says. Y'all always want idols with real (conventionally pretty but acting 'ugly' while doing certain things) until you get them and then suddenly, they are unprofessional, not aware, a bit too loose, need some camera training, blah blah blah.
1. At this point, I think people are just choosing sides based on who they like. A majority of responses and statements from both sides of the conflict have stable evidence or compelling parts. It really comes down to whether you believe what they say or not because we can throw the evidence in your face and people on both sides will still say “media play” or “they’re obviously lying”. 4. I would actually say 5th gen, this year specifically, has been really freaking good. I mean look at Kiss of Life, ILLIT, Baby Monster, TripleS, TWS. They’ve been flourishing this year. 6. This should’ve never been a main marketing tool. We already complain about this enough in western music.
Sorry to say as an army I know certain sections of army who are extremely toxic and disgusting I know we always can't take accountability but you should call them out protect your idols or artist whatever from harresment and stupid dating scandal
Gfriend concert hall is so freaking small, literally 70k+ people were lining up, equivalent to the largest stadium in korea, even the members were talking about how they actually asked for larger venue but it seems the company didn't agreed well they ended up saving them by saying how understandable coz its the end and beginning of year and all.
@@brennathecatlover4360 Yea, I think so, so it fit well. But I also think they said at the time that they couldn't get anything bigger at such short notice.
For the fifty fifty tour one, I dont know what kpop concerts are like. Or concerts in general 😅 I just went to my first ever concert and it was for KARD. So it was only the 4 members on stage, no back up dancers, and they changed their clothes technically once, and before the encore they left to put the tour shirts on, except one member who just wrapped it around her waist. So based on this one experience fifty fifty concert sounds pretty normal. As long as the artists bring it I dont think I really care. I just wanna vibe to the music.
I don't understand why there should be like 1 artist on top, 2 or 3 below them and the rest somewhere in the shadow. There is enough space for everyone. Kpop is an industry, not a genre. Just like the western industry. There are Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd. If someone can point me out who is the biggest among these, okay, but otherwise, everyone is big in their own genres and concepts
7. I can see why people would say it's low budget, but honestly I think people enjoyed it regardless and there's definitely something different about a stripped down barebones concert that lets the girls' talents be the star of the show while also creating a nice, intimate environment with the audience.
9: THANK YOU AGAIN! 😂 This was BLOODY INCREDIBLE. Like, visually so captivating. It's like a mix of Rain, Spell, or in general, the performance unit in THE BEST way. I feel like this is SO Minghao's aesthetic. It's one of my favourite solo songs out of the SEVENTEEN members.
4:22, you did not understand the question actually. When aespa, ive, lsrfm, newjeans debuted, they left a huge impact, they did from the start not after 2 years of debut, unlike 5th gen groups. the only 5th gen group comes to my mind is babymonster, and although they are incredibly talented, their songs are average(though i listen to all of them)...
OMG. I am so tired of New Jeans, pls let's stop talking about their bullish*t and focus on the positive things in Kpop. Their drama ended their music career and that's a fact. I don't get why Billboard mentioned them since their music is boring café typa sh*t and no one can't explain to me otherwise. I am tired of their ego and behaviour as if they have established a new music genre and are the next Beyoncé in terms of artistry.
Oh please, shut the f up, you're just a hater bcoz everyone knows NJ's music is unique and it's good. Also billboard mentioned them bcoz they are popular artists with trending songs go cry about it loser😂
second half of 4th gen is when kpop started going to shit. its all about having international records to your name just for bragging rights, every song is made just to be a commercial hit on tiktok or Instagram its rarely ever about genuine quality music. which is also so strange to me especially because now more kpop artists are involved in the making of the music rather than just being the face for what the company creates. idk kpop isnt kpopping lately
How is 5th gen defined anyway? They don’t sound any different than 4th gen or even later 3rd gen groups. Fourth gen used to get a lot of criticism because they had a lot of trouble competing with third gen groups as well, especially boy groups. Because the market is so crowded now, it’s hard for groups to succeed unless they grab attention right from the get go. I think we will still have some monster groups, but not as many.
5th gen has just started, but BM managed to sell out their first concert in Seoul in just 5 hours. Kiss of Life brings back the sexy concept reminiscent of the 2nd and early 3rd gen, and they're already charting well. Other groups are also doing great. They’ve already achieved a lot, so give them a few years to grow-they’ll likely find success like 4th gen groups. The reason 4th gen is more successful right now is that many 3rd gen idols are either in the military or pursuing solo careers. This pattern always happens-just like how 3rd gen groups gained more attention or rule K-pop when 2nd gen groups started disbanding or going solo.
@@none6632 selling out a concert in 5hours isnt really achievement! babyflopster fans hype them up too much yet they cant get them a music show win. their songs suck. Overrated
@@1onlyjayjay kpop stan always discreadit baemon need to be study like if theyre flop people saying 'even blackpink couldnt save them' like wtf did yall want them to do??😭
I'm a K-pop stan so, this holiday, I'm going to pawn everything I own just so I can give away my life saving to help my favs pay for their court fees, even if I'm broke and homeless. Merry Christmas ❤
I completely disagree on Orbit and Shohikigen. Stardust was a masterpiece, so much better than expected and Shohikigen was beautiful and meaningful, stunning vocals and no need of overproduction
@@sanyk-t6c It's her opinion, I don't agree with her almost 80% of the time but I can't judge her either. Music it's subjective after all. What I hate is when people use 'opinion' as their way to hate, insult or discredit someone else
@@Universe_Factory_ShiningGem exactly. And most funny thing is when song from her ult groups - fresh, interesting good melody. Exactly the same song (be honest, some songs are similar, NOT COPY OR PLAGIARISM, but still) from groups she's didn't like - boring, is now 2016?, repetitive.
@@sanyk-t6c well then we should be thankful music is subjective. I don't really know her opinion about all groups in general cause I don't follow her and I usually avoid 'opinion' videos but yeah...sometimes 'opinions' are messed up. Kpop stans tend to love and defend their ults when the song is low quality and boring and hate on others even when the song is a masterpiece just cause they're salty about it, that's why I don't really care about others opinions. I say mine and move on
I get the pricing though, their not coming back as GFriend permeantly, it's just a temporary thing maybe once in a lifetime, atleast that's what i think, because some members still have their own career to worry about as viviz and viviz doesn't fall under SOURCE MUSIC. so get why it would be so expensive, 1. A highly recommend comback, 2. It might be the last until a long time 3. They might flop so you better get as much money as possible while it lasts. Those are the reasons.
I do disagree with some of the 5th gen comments. Babymon has YG and years of teasers for their group, they have the same if not more resources than a group like IVE, even considering IVE’s IZONE boost. I think groups should have time to bloom, but there is a point that the 5th gen groups didn’t make as much splash as previous generations. I don’t think it’s a lack of talent.
Learn to research proper information about G-friend. Why they are currently back before using them to hate on lesserafirm and illit. Ugly lesserafirm anti please
Y’all are so blinded by hate towards hype ggs that you roll out unfounded claims and label them as gospel truth. Just be happy that the gfriend girls are going to perform no need to attack other groups. Such comments are the ones that start the hate campaigns
Don't freaking drag our girls in your delusional dream of trying to hate other groups, keep my girls out of it. They are finally back after 4 freaking years, we don't want any useless and unnecessary drama
this might be irrelevant to everyone but its such an interesting coincidence to me that i just found out like 2-3 days ago that some people ship winter and beomgyu while some call them twins and now her dating rumour with jongwon comes out lol
That's the problem with people like you. You say you've never heard her sing live because you don't bother actually searching it up to see for yourselves. Wonyoung has improved SO MUCH-heck even IVE as a group has Improved so much in the vocal department + in their live performances. You'll hate and demand for proof when it's right in front of your eyes. But no, you instantly turn deaf and blind.
2: I read somewhere that it wasn't Winter, it was Jungwon's OWN MOTHER 💀😫🤣 But I know FOR SURE that this ain't true because Jungwon went on live to say that he is not dating. From what I heard, he was reading the comments in his live, and one fan asked in the comments: "Are you dating?" and too that, Jungwon replied briefly: "No, I am not dating. I don't smoke either." So please guys, let's stop the speculations and accusations now because he's addressed publicly that HE IS NOT DATING‼️
Lol I think it's time for some YG talk, nobody is calling you out on dissing Babymonster and being so harsh on them. You find literally insult the girls and the company, saying they release trash music, but have you even reviewed each of their song in DRIP? No. Why? Allergic to compliment. It looks like dissing YG is in your DNA, and we don't talk enough about it. Their B sides were so good and you really didn't speak about it. But instead, talked about how Drip was such a bad comeback. Sure, the chorus is nowhere, the instrumental may be old, but compared to their history of title tracks, it's still very refreshing. Also, you basically insulted your, fav YG artist, G Dragon, by calling out that Drip was a bad comeback. Seriously? Praising Home Sweet Home? And then calling out on Drip like that? Its peak favouritism, and it needs to be called out. Insulting and harrassing BM and then saying, "I pity the girls, they're talented!" Just so that the fans won't attack you is such a manipulate thing of you. We need you to rate their other songs in their album too, not like "they're all trash" but actually give a proper review to them. I want to see how far your favouritism will run ❤. Lots of love 🎀 (from a hardcore YG 😘)
Ain't no way you're gonna defend woke up in tokyo ☠️ sorry their songs are trash af. I almost gave drip a pass until the highnote came 😢 well at least it's better than clik clak tho.
I think you somewhat contradict yourself between ur fifth gen argument and the idol calculation one. These groups need time to do the algorithm thing before they are able to just react and behave naturally. It’s like learning the fundamentals in sports and then freestyling once you have a solid base. Most of these groups don’t have the experience or self confidence built up via success and fan support to just be natural. And even the ones you mentioned as more raw took some time to achieve that. But also I agree there chosen were an odd choice to signal out.
Okay so KMCA dropped a statement about the whole ablume and new jeans drama and how they will try to boycott them something around that area What's your take on this
No es un boicot, elllos no van a comprar la mercancía o negar que alguien la compre. Pero si las van a poner en una lista negra, o sea , que no van a revelar los números y éso las va a sacar de las listas, los rankigs, los premios relacionados a los números .
it’s BOYNEXTDOOR!!! the fandom name is Onedoor (stam boynextdoor, they’re one of my 7 ult groups!!! if u wanna listen to their songs i reccomend ‘Earth, Wind, and Fire’ or ‘But Sometimes’ and either ‘Serenade’ or ‘Nice Guy’)
Opinions on all The K-Pop Winners And Performances From The “2024 Billboard Music Awards”?
Here are the nominations and winners:
*Top K-Pop Touring Artist*
For this category, ENHYPEN, TXT, and SEVENTEEN were nominated for the award, SEVENTEEN were announced as the winner
*Top Global K-Pop Artist*
ENHYPEN, BTS‘s Jimin, BTS’s Jungkook, Stray Kids and TXT were all nominated for this award, and Stray Kids were announced winners.
*Top Global K-Pop Song*
For this category, ILLIT‘s “Magnetic,” BTS Jimin’s “Who,” LE SSERAFIM‘s “Perfect Night,” and Jungkook’s “Standing Next To You” and “3D (featuring Jack Harlow) were all nominated.
*Top K-Pop Album*
For this category, ATEEZ’s The World EP.Fin: Will, Jungkook’s Golden, TXT‘s The Name Chapter: Freefall, Stray Kids’ 樂-STAR, and ATE albums were nominated for the award.
Aw thanks for the pin and the hearts. Is this a hint for your next video? 👀😁
Yes 😁😁
@@kpop-spyOkayyyy looking forward to it! ⌚🗓️😁
The hypocrisy is that it’s supposedly ASIAN MUSIC AWARDS. 😒. That is like CHINA calling their government COMMUNISM !! 🤣😬
@_JustArandomMultistan_ Jungkook should have won top K-pop artist cause no way someone in K-pop industry is more global than him
'There's a reason mhj threw her laptop into the river'😂😂 that's so funny😂
1: Why is this laptop thing even a debate? Isn't it not HYBE’s property? Doesn’t matter if it’s packed with personal info-if it’s not yours, it can be taken back at any time. And honestly, which dumbass decides to put personal stuff on a work laptop and then cry about it? You knew it was a company device the second you started using it for personal reasons. Saying, “Oh, but it has my personal information on it, so I can’t give it back” is just ridiculous. Like, what? That’s on you for mixing work and personal.
It’s basic logic-it’s HYBE/ADOR’s property. Surely this is in their company policies; it’s standard everywhere. Just because you’re allowed to use it for both work and personal stuff doesn’t magically make it yours. Like think about it this way: you borrow a school laptop till you finish school-why would you dump all your personal details into a device that isn’t even yours to begin with? 😂
Right!
Because Bunnies are honestly a little brainwashed ATP
ENGENEs and MYs need a fandom clean ASAP, especially ENGENEs. They need to understand that ENHYPEN are not their significant others and probably have someone lying in their bed right now.
@@ærina.æ real i fear(ure everywhere)
EXACTLY as an engene myself I understand making jokes and ACTING delulu and stuff but spreading hate 2 seconds after photos come out is genuinely insane. Like there was a Korean fan who when the accusations came out made a video painting over jw face with NAIL POLISH and once jungwon cleared his and winters name she made another vid taking it off 😭 the descriptions on both were sickening. Because I’m not a MY I haven’t personally seen the hate for winter but I’ve heated it was BAD. It’s disgusting how some fans can’t handle their idols being people ffs
REALLL OMG
I'm an engene myself and kinda delulu but NEVER IN THE WORLD would i get jealous if they dated someone
@@mintyy_freshI’m not a bot, I promise.
@@DdeonubreadI’m happy that Jungwon stood for himself. People need to understand that idols are not puppets to control over. ‼️
Is funny how ppl that are defending Nj is saying “oh but ador is harassing the staff taking the laptops “
But the reality was that Nj manager later admitted to reaching investors and deals for Nj excluding ador and hybe. That’s bad and sabotaging contract!
Hate hybe all you want but hybe is right here.
5th gen were born yesterday. People need to calm down.
No one is reading all that just letting you know
@ ok. And?
😭😭😭 I laughed too hard for this 😂
Exactly
Born yesterday? Lmao😂
Thank you for speaking on Keena. One thing I think people miss is that keeping the name and releasing new music under the name helps Keena legally fight for the credits on Cupid that the givers stole from her. It’s a smart legal move to ensure she gets what she deserves.
5th gen just started, there are more groups coming to debut on 2025 so let's wait for them to marinate.
4th gen also started with grps like skz,gidle,the boyz,etc who were not very popular during their debut but slowly started rising from 2020-2021.Give the 5th gen grps sm time
real I feel like this channel just thrives on hating idols but I still watch it for fun
the laptop and its work info stored IS COMPANY PROPERTY, it is illegal to not return it whenever asked to the employer.
Y también borrar la información, el contenido no se le puede negar a la compañía ( más si no había nada extraño)
Most probably the celphone too.
Why are y'all in such a hurry with groups that have just debuted?? Nobody debuts with guaranteed fame, let the rookies be rookies and experice their pace. Also y'all said the same with 4th gen like be fr
No one is reading all that just letting you know
@@ville-c4ulooks like 21 people did, and it wasn’t even that long
Common 4th gen debuts were much much famous than 5th gen debuts(expect Illit magnetic and Bm Sheesh)
@@minjuscookie EXACTLY the problem is 5th gen is literally just so messy its all over the place with no correlation and it doesn't help half of the group names are actually so random and all over the place as well?!
@@minjuscookie Y'all said the same about 4th gen groups when they were rookies
I love how the AI voice sounds sassy enough to fit the script :D
no one cares😂😂
The fact that kpop industry rather keep pushing new groups every other year like a new iPhone. Might be another reason why the industry is crap. It’s just too much. People have an attention span of a squirrel. It’s saturated.
Yg barely releases groups
@ Probably many labels pop up all the time now days. Especially after BTS explosion. Everyone trying to exploit teens to get that cheddar.
@@minjuscookieThat's why their new groups will have more impact in making Fandom. Baemon already got some portion of Vips, Blinks, Blackjack, Iconic, Inner circle and trs maker.
Cause for them, every new group feels exclusive and premium.
Idk about the upcoming boy group though cause the timeline will be very similar to Baemon.
@@King_of_Ether_Realm hmmm
Exactly put some respect on Keena's name. There would have been no Fifty Fifty without her. And the group is doing well and thriving.
Again. I'll scream this from a rooftop. IDOLS DONT OWE FANS ANYTHING. Jungwon and Winter was js existing, they dont need to explain anything to anyone of these tragic fans
Yes go queen say it im not enge but i know every kpop group gg or bg there us section of this toxic disgusting fans
@MsRainyStarzz da only thing they owe us r being good idols ig, as they say…Idc who they bangin as long as they release bangers💥
Idols owe fans everything: without fans, there are no Idols... Please get real.
@FlecheDeFer they dont owe fans to tell them abt their every movement. Imagine trying to enjoy yourself and someone makes a rumor
@MsRainyStarzz Yes, some fans are toxic and totally stupid, but you still have to please your fans (even when they are dead wrong, like the Le Sserafim drama), that is the name of the game: if fans don't like you or if you don't have fans, you won't stay Idol very long. Your popularity is your only asset as an Idol. They know it and they have to comply, whether they like it or not.
4: "Coasting along"? That’s a take. Let’s break it down. First off, 5th gen just started. You’re comparing a few months of activity to the years it took 4th gen giants to "shatter records." Groups like IVE, AESPA, NEWJEANS, and LESSERAFIM didn’t come out the gate as instant legends; they built up momentum. Expecting 5th gen to dominate the same way immediately is setting a ridiculous standard.
Second, if you actually pay attention, 5th gen groups are making waves. BABYMONSTER had one of the most hyped debuts of the year, and RIIZE, (and many other groups), are pulling crazy numbers on the charts and fan engagement-numbers that even some senior groups would envy. Just because they're not the talk of every global platform yet doesn’t mean they're "getting overshadowed."
Also, let’s not pretend the K-pop market is stagnant. The spotlight isn't stolen forever; it's constantly shifting. 5th gen groups are finding their footing, building their identities, and capturing different audiences. Dismissing them now is shortsighted at best.
So, nah. They’re not "coasting"; you’re just impatient.
Bunnies gotta learn to read for reallllllll the facts are all out there 😂
Cult members don't do fact-checking. They only follow whomever they worship off the cliff.
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV how do u know YOUR fandom aint a cult👀💀👈🏻
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV honestly thats so true
@Gojo-ki-poookie did i struck a nerve? 😂
If I didn't, you wouldn't comment on my comment.
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV nah, im genuinely asking. Just say ur in denial lol
4:21 anyone saying this lives under a rock. Babymonster is performing at the kspo dome after 1.1 years since debut and might I add they sold out in 8 minutes, magnetic was the #1 contender for SOTY against supernova. Wake up people
They didn't sold out in 8 minutes I think it was 5days
@@sahithya8412 🤭🤭 whoa..! Nice catch.
Hell, even 3rd gen isn't done yet. BTS, TWICE and SVT are still grinding as groups, many 3rd gen idols are still releasing music as solo like BP members and they are still in high demand. If you think 5th gen and their 14-15year old idols can achieve things that idols in their late 20's are achieving now, you are just putting delusional expectations on them.
Because they are still called idols, never going beyond that.
Some Kpop fans are SO disconnected from reality they forget how a big, legally formed, corporation works. Or perhaps they are jobless and have never even stepped foot into the real world yet to know all this. Either way, its pathetic to see them be so dumb, like guys, KEEP YOUR PHONE DOWN AND GO OUTSIDE, GET A LIFE, TOUCH SOME GRASS. You'll see how the world works then.
like it wasn't the manager's personal laptop
2. Again, CANNOT believe how disconnected from the reality you have to be to start losing your shit over a celebrity dating. Like, tf? Girl, did you think you had a chance? Someone's feeling too important.
Cause Kpop is oversaturated at this point, too many labels, too many debuts. If a group 'flops' they really didn't it's just that their are too many groups and songs to keep up with.
trying to do a secret deal on a company's laptop and phone is wild 😂😂😂😂
That first person had all their facts wrong. The personal phone wasn't even taken. Also, it WAS a work meeting to investigate the managers actions 😂
That’s what delusional K-pop fans do, roll out nonsense without fact checking their words no any logical or critical thinking. And the emotional blinded ones will believe that shit😂
They're buying into NJ's bs and public manipulation efforts
I swear kpop fans lack critical thinking. Just read whatever information is given instead of doing research. 🤦🏻
Like my username 😊
Didnt ador ask that poor manager before to hand them over for investigation? Thats a company's basic right lmao. Someone wouldnt hesitate to do that if they have nothing to hide yk
@@Gojo-ki-poookie yeah, apparently he made a deal for newjeans without even asking ador.
@@RYUs_addractive_galand yet P00R
Manager
@Gojo-ki-poookie what do you mean by poor manage , she is working girl, she is not poor
@@AbigailTwumasi-ef2zw its sarcasm
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv oo OK sorry
2: "Meanwhile, ENHYPEN's fans acted like the world was ending, which is pretty on brand for a fandom that lost it's collective minds over female backup dancers."
YOU DID NAWT- 💀💀😭😭🤣🤣
Unrelated opinion: stay and bunnies are the new blinks and army
bunnies did so many raks paks and daesangs
I fear thats real.
Umm idts. There r a few milestones that bunny's r yet to achieve for that title
Please leave army alone. They are not dumb as bunnshit.
@@RYUs_addractive_galLMAO US BOTH BEING STAYS MAKES IT MORE REAL😭
The 5th gen is good, all the bad PR the 5th gen groups have gotten is probably just coming from the Min heejin rumor factory because she hated all competition against Newjeans. From the start she has seen herself in opposition to everyone who might be considered Newjeans competition, all because she wanted Newjeans to be for her what BTS was for Bang Si Hyuk.
But it's not even true that the 5th gen isn't making waves, Illit broke 10 year old records with their debut, and now they just broke another record by being the first group to reach 500 million streams on their debut song within a certain number of days.
It will take a while before anyone breaks these records condering that someone with explosive popularity like Newjeans didn't even do it. I think thats waves enough.
Bunnies are still spamming on illit’s content, *GET OUT AND GROW UP*
The Nj manager learnt from the best. The story with the laptop is exact same as what happened with their jezebel witch. She refused to return the laptop to date. Her (bad) influence is so strong on the people she worked with 💀
Kiss of life is literally HOLDING 5th gen in place
Period
Right it would be so boring I can’t imagine it without them
@@itzme5710love their style and vibe
@@itzme5710But not everyone has the same choice.Yall acting as if People who only listen to their music exists 🥴
9: The song’s got all the typical idol ballad vibes: emotional, dramatic, and perfect for showing off those killer vocals. But what sets it apart for me is the rock guitar. It starts off all soft and pretty with the strings-super OST-core-but then slowly builds into something massive. It’s got that cozy, seasonal feel, but by the time the guitar kicks in during the pre-chorus, it starts getting gritty in the best way.
The chorus could’ve hit harder melody-wise, but it’s still got a ton of weight and drama that makes it satisfying. It feels like the song shifts from this gentle, sentimental vibe to full-on cinematic action movie energy, and that growth is what makes it work so well. It’s definitely a standout for me.
3: Babes what did you expect? This is a GFRIEND reunion after god knows how long 😂😭 why would the ticket prices be cheap?
Yeah despite the price, 70k+ people were lining up
2:27 Jungwon DID NOT deserve the hates
Generations don’t matter. Bts, blackpink and svt still going strong although in 3rd gen, stray kids debuting barely in 4th gen is out here still growing and competing with western artists, ateez also barely making it into 4th gen still growing
Enhyphen are so unlucky with their fans😂😂😂 like imagine being toxic about yr idol dating when you could never in yr life date that idol, like let idols start sueing for fake rumors
really there soo toxic a saseng booked the flight next to enhypen on plane
@vaish9962 I feel sorry for kpop idols tho 😭😭😭 imagine a grown woman crying over a guy u won't even be able in your afterlife date or get married, Just be a fan and be supportive, most kpop fans are too obsessive, even the companies makes things worst ☠️☠️☠️
Tbh aside from some k/c fans , i didnt see much of hate from engenes this time.. or maybe my timeline was good ,coz many were mad at belift and sasaengs
@@safz15 idk but my side on insta had some unhinged things
I actually really like multiple versions lol. I like being able to pick which concept and aesthetic my albums have versus having to settle for one basic one.
i hate the hate against new fifty fifty. every single post with the group is filled with "boycott new fifty fifty". how about you boycott the three greedy members that tried to trick keena into wasting years of her life for more money. the girls can't even perform in peace gosh
because they don`t deserve the peace
Kpop will never thrive if you still consider dating a scandal .
5:48 THABKK U FOR SAYING THISSSS like i always said there is no such thing as 5th gen when 4th gen idols haven’t even reached their full potential yet
Even veteran groups like svt need to wait for almost a decade to reach their goals 😭
$117 to see Gfriend? I'd pay that in an instant.
Trying to watch Kpop live shows in the UK you have to expect to be charged over £200 for the chance to be in a cheap back seat.
Am I the only one who thinks $100+ tickets are literally so affordable ? When you have other groups charging like $500+
You're right!! People forget that concerts are not a necessity!!
Fairss I guess it depends on how your like when you spend money. No way am I spending money for a concert ticket that costs over 500+ I'll spend that on something else tyvm 😊
Ppl waste thousands on Beyonce tickets 😂
I think they are affordable compared to so many others tickets.
Well considering how 70k people were lining up to buy Gfriend's concert tickets ig its affordable but they are probably just shocked.
9: I think CARATS will get this: It feels like a sequel to the IMA MV, especially with how the members hug each other so lovingly. And the fact that Scoups, SEVENTEEN’s leader, held onto their family portrait from the IMA MV like it's forever? So wholesome and heartwarming 🥺💖. It’s like they’re saying, no matter what happens, their love for each other will never fade, and SEVENTEEN will always stick together 💫💞😭😩
The Nj manager tried to do tampering and ador found out.
No one knows a single song from best selling kpop albums these days (ofc there are few exceptions) like you don't have to make songs just put some photo cards and a big azz photo book those fans would throw money left and right they don't even stream title track to make it less obvious
With 49 Taylor Swift' Grammy i don't know any of her song.
And people like me, millions and millions in the world. Many people even have no idea, who she is. But also millions and millions of people know her and her songs and is listening them every day.
If you can't named song from best selling albums, that doesn't mean that other also.
You speak english because of taylor swift and consuming american western culture. SO what do you actually know about anything? You're an ignorant teeny bopping wimp@@sanyk-t6c
as a person who met kpop at it's third generation but only got to really enjoy it at it's fourth and now am only navigating through groups, I miss the good ol' days when having female backup dancers were not compared as launching a nuclear attack, when interaction between female and male groups in music shows, awards and variety shows wasn't deemed on backlash, why are people so dumb nowadays? It's so toxic, I just wish to protect the idols sometimes, especially the newer ones, they've got no idea what they're signing up for, one can't be human in this industry, and when companies resort to virtual or mocap idols, they say they're replacing people for machines, well, I'm not a big fan of AI created idols, but I'm not against using motion-capture, the way plave does, because it keeps the humans behind the idols safe, they can have a normal life, be who they are, date, spend time with families, or at least it is more normal to some degree... to sum it up: what the hell happened to K-pop fans and industry?
6: First of all, "looking pretty" and performing are not mutually exclusive. Idols like Yuna and Wonyoung are constantly scrutinized for their visuals-by fans and critics alike-so of course that aspect is part of their performance. But to reduce their entire stage presence to just "a calculated visual algorithm"? That’s unfair and honestly a lazy take.
These are idols who’ve trained for years to master vocals, dance, and stage presence. You think they hit every move, nail every note, and command a global audience by just standing there looking pretty? If they look effortless, it’s because they’re damn good at what they do. Maybe you’re mistaking professionalism and polish for "android-like" perfection.
And let’s not act like being "self-aware" on stage is a bad thing. They know what fans expect, they know what the industry demands, and they’re delivering it. That’s not a flaw-it’s part of why they’re dominating. So, yeah, maybe take a step back and appreciate the grind instead of nitpicking their perfection.
Вы не поняли претензию к ним, и доказали её.
"Они делают то, что от них ожидают фанаты" - в этом проблема. Они БОЯТСЯ выглядеть не идеально/реально (по мнению фанатов), и позволяют им и далее задирать планку.
@@sanyk-t6cNope, I understood the claim just fine; you’re the one spinning it into something it’s not. Let’s dissect your point: you’re blaming Yuna and Wonyoung for being too good at meeting fan expectations. Really? That’s like criticizing a chef for making their food taste exactly how the customers love it. The issue isn’t with them; it’s with the so-called "fans" who demand this level of perfection. Maybe redirect your frustration there.
You say they’re "afraid of not looking perfect." No, they’re not afraid-they’re professionals. They understand the industry they’re in: one built on visuals and talent. If they occasionally lean into their strengths (which, surprise, includes looking stunning), that’s a calculated choice, not fear. Perfectionism in their field is a sign of mastery, not weakness.
And let’s get one thing straight: they aren’t the ones raising the bar-you are. Fans and critics constantly nitpick every angle, every move, every expression, then turn around and blame the idols for keeping up with these absurd expectations. It’s hypocrisy at its finest.
So, no, the problem isn’t Yuna and Wonyoung being "too perfect." The problem is people like you refusing to acknowledge their hard work and boiling their artistry down to aesthetics just because they make it look easy. That’s not on them-that’s on you.
@_JustArandomMultistan_ мои ульты в этой индустрии, это Yuqi, Soyeon and Jisoo. И я видел десятки видео на которых они выглядят не идеально. Вспомнить хотя бы ноздрю Jisoo. Или Soyeon, девушку которую ненавидели за внешний вид, без профессионального макияжа. Или Yuqi доказывающую, что отрыжка и пускание газов - ЭТО НОРМАЛЬНО, и демонстрирующая это.
И именно этим они и притягивают к себе, они НАТУРАЛЬНЫЕ (насколько возможно в этой индустрии).
А теперь вопрос к тебе, Wonyong может сделать тоже, или ей нужно быть идеальной 24/7, чтобы не потерять так называемых "фанатов"? Она стала заложником своего же идеального образа, как ты этого не понимаешь? В глазах случайного человека (следящего за К-попом ), она превратилась в образ, в идеальную куклу, готовую улыбаться без остановки и принимать идеально выверенные позы, по первому щелчку её "фанатов".
И ты смеешь утверждать, что это моя вина?
@@sanyk-t6cFirst off, let's talk about the whole "natural" thing. You’re right-everyone has flaws, and idols like Jisoo, Soyeon, and Yuqi are celebrated for showing their human side. But guess what? That doesn’t make Wonyoung, or anyone else, less authentic. It just means you’ve decided to frame "realness" in one narrow way, and you’re using that to criticize other idols for not conforming to that ideal.
You bring up Yuqi passing gas and Soyeon without professional makeup as "real moments." Sure, they're relatable, but they don’t prove anything about the "naturalness" of a performer. Everyone in the industry is aware of the camera's gaze. Whether you're showing raw, unfiltered moments or keeping things polished, it doesn’t take away from the fact that they’re still being themselves. This whole “natural vs. perfect” argument is tired and limiting.
Now, Wonyoung-she’s not a hostage to her image. She’s shaped her image, just like every successful idol. There's power in embracing a persona, in controlling how you present yourself. It’s not about being “perfect” 24/7. It’s about being consistent, professional, and owning the image you choose. So, no, she doesn’t need to be called perfect all the time-but she's damn good at her craft, which is why she gets the attention she does.
And this idea that "she turned into an image" is just your way of excusing your bias against her. Every idol has an image-that’s the job. Wonyoung has created hers, just like Jisoo and Soyeon have, and if you’re not okay with her version of “real,” that’s a personal issue, not hers. Don’t try to spin her success into a prison; she’s thriving by making choices, not by being a puppet to fans or perfection.
So, yeah, your problem isn’t with her being fake-it’s that you’ve decided to hold her to a standard that’s based on your own distorted version of "authenticity." And again, that’s not on her. It’s on you.
@_JustArandomMultistan_ и снова тоже самое. Вы не понимаете одну простую вещь, это в её сторону (Wonyong) НЕ КРИТИКА И НЕ ХЕЙТ от меня.
Меня беспокоит, та ментальная нагрузка, с которой она сталкивается ПОСТОЯННО. Я на 99% уверен что она с ней справиться, она профессионал в этой индустрии и знает как в ней работать. Но я опасаюсь этого 1%, что она просто устанет.
П.С. Научитесь понимать что вам пишут другие, это поможет в общении.
П.П.С хватит обвинять людей в том, к чему они не имеют никакого отношения.
Guess NJ are starting to get blacklisted in sk..
Ahora tiene nombre Nuevo, pero siguen usando todo lo de NJ, como el canal 😅
They still have 15 million listeners on Spotify which is much more than some famous groups with recent comebacks(. I won't name them) Guess people forget how much influence they have globally...Even my non kpop friends said Newjeans is the only k-group they can listen to
@@minjuscookiesi ignoran a KMCA, no va a importar, se van a quedar sin carrera en Korea
@@minjuscookie 😂 They're bots hun. There was no one to support NJ at a recent award show. Mhj even thanked their personal streaming team. 💀. And monthly listeners doesn't mean 15M ppl are listening to them, it can vary cuz of heavy playlisting.
@@Bloom_Jiya so you think bots danced to super shy on tiktok,insta,yt?
5:18
1st of all 5th Gen came outta nowhere, that’s why their was confusion and consistent debate when 5th Gen stepped in the scene cuz it seemed way too soon.
The fact that ppl consider NewJeans to be 5th Gen when they literally debuted alongside IVE, Lesserafim, Kep1er, and NMIXX is insane to me. And right after New Jeans debuted ppl labeled any groups that was following their influence in Style and Sound as 5th Gen??? Like that made no sense to me cuz following style and sound trend is very common in kpop, but okay🤷♂️?? Like, I literally considered ZB1 a 4th Gen Group until everyone dictated other wise.
Like how did we shift an entire generation when IVE, Lesserafim, NMIXX, etc. had barely touched the stage??? TWICE, Blackpink, and Redvelvet were active for almost 4-5 years before 4th Gen Started (I believe), so the random shift from 4th to 5th Gen was insane to me.
Also how are we expecting 5th Gen Groups to match the success and popularity of groups like IVE, NewJeans, and Lesserafim???
These groups had amazing History and Companies on their favor with NewJeans having Min Hee Jin on their team and HYBE funding and Promoting them, and IVE and Lesserafim each having to former IZ*ONE members, and Lesserafim having 3 Produce 48 Contestants in General (with added controversy giving them much attention at the time👀).
BabyMonster interest fluctuates as constantly as Ocean Waves. Their debut was postponed, their real debut was missing their most popular member, their fake debut (1st Comeback) was a catchy yet annoying song (based on majority opinion), and both “debuts” were lack luster (based on majority opinion at the time). Having controversies about Group Cohesiveness and Over/Under performing, and debates abt vocal ability; they got too much goin on and it’s not helping them much (at least internationally).
The issue with other 5th Gen groups is the fact that everyone is just trynna keep up with the Fad and originality is rare unless you’re from the bigger companies. Everyone’s just trynna make money, so they’re following the current like fish, aimless and lacking creativity.
Newjeans was pushed out earlier with the purpose of competiting with Lesserafim, they were originally supposed to be a 5th gen group.
2:22 Did she really throw her laptop in the river??😮
Tenía que entregarla y se negó, nadie sabe que pasó ( pero si la hizo desaparecer y por éso se está retrasando el juicio).
imho some kpop fans are so oblivious about their behavior it is absurd. a great example is the twice solo situation where everyone was arguing about how tzuyu didn’t deserve to go solo but jeongyeon did. firstly; jeongyeon was bullied for something she couldn’t control and people STILL want to say that she was being ‘mistreated’ since she didn’t go solo. not only that, one key reason that tzuyu went solo was that people said she was being ‘mistreated’ (she should have gotten more screentime but she wasn’t being mistreated) and because of that higher ups thought giving her a solo would stop the uproars about tzuyu being mistreated and ignored. people always want to say they both are mistreated but the second that jeongyeon would’ve went solo you guys would rip her to shreds. as much as we love jeongyeon we shouldn’t be mad at her for not going solo or at tzuyu for stealing the solo opportunity from other members. we should respect jeonyeons choice and appreciate it as it is. just my take though 🤷♂️
no literally and kpop stans need to learn not every member wants to have a solo or needs to have a solo.
@@Harai2Momo quite literally, if all twice members had a solo their schedules would overlap. its always “we want solos!” until they give the most popular member one then called mistreatment.
Tbh I don't see both Tzuyu and Jeongyeon as capable of going solo
@@minjuscookie tzuyu is capable but when compared to nayeon and jihyo she isn’t AS capable, and jeongyeon doesn’t want to go solo anyways so it shouldn’t matter. they are both capable but its not like they WANT to. jeongyeon has the best voice imo followed by jihyo, so she has that but would lack the sp not because she doesn’t have it but because she doesn’t even want to be there.
Yuna is a good performer though 🤔 what were they thinking?
When you have millions of people criticising your every single move, look, expression, smile, and body language, the self-awareness will never turn down a notch. Plus, yeah, putting Yuna or Wonyoung was a wrong example. These two deliver amazing performances idc what anyone says.
Y'all always want idols with real (conventionally pretty but acting 'ugly' while doing certain things) until you get them and then suddenly, they are unprofessional, not aware, a bit too loose, need some camera training, blah blah blah.
That's why i prefer gidle and BP from K-pop, and also XG , they are NATURAL.
1. At this point, I think people are just choosing sides based on who they like. A majority of responses and statements from both sides of the conflict have stable evidence or compelling parts. It really comes down to whether you believe what they say or not because we can throw the evidence in your face and people on both sides will still say “media play” or “they’re obviously lying”.
4. I would actually say 5th gen, this year specifically, has been really freaking good. I mean look at Kiss of Life, ILLIT, Baby Monster, TripleS, TWS. They’ve been flourishing this year.
6. This should’ve never been a main marketing tool. We already complain about this enough in western music.
I completely agree on your opinion about Winter and Jungwon, idols are people, let them live.
Poor jungwon, had to defend himself with his life
This channel is pretty sassy...AI voice but I think a clever human is behind the script. K pop Spy takes no prisoners
No one is reading all that just letting you know
@@ville-c4u no one care about your comment for yourself😊😂😂😂😂
For the Jungwon scandel, do NOT use engenes for those types of people, we do not claim them !!
Sorry to say as an army I know certain sections of army who are extremely toxic and disgusting I know we always can't take accountability but you should call them out protect your idols or artist whatever from harresment and stupid dating scandal
Gfriend concert hall is so freaking small, literally 70k+ people were lining up, equivalent to the largest stadium in korea, even the members were talking about how they actually asked for larger venue but it seems the company didn't agreed well they ended up saving them by saying how understandable coz its the end and beginning of year and all.
The venues are fully booked way in advance, same with 2NE1. Unless a spot unexpectantly opens up, there's nothing one can do.
@Sherluck93didn’t 2ne1 perform at the venue they had their very first concert in? So that could be why they were there
@@brennathecatlover4360 Yea, I think so, so it fit well. But I also think they said at the time that they couldn't get anything bigger at such short notice.
@Sherluck93 so this concert was probably a last minute idea?
@@brennathecatlover4360 It seemed so.
For the fifty fifty tour one, I dont know what kpop concerts are like. Or concerts in general 😅 I just went to my first ever concert and it was for KARD. So it was only the 4 members on stage, no back up dancers, and they changed their clothes technically once, and before the encore they left to put the tour shirts on, except one member who just wrapped it around her waist.
So based on this one experience fifty fifty concert sounds pretty normal. As long as the artists bring it I dont think I really care. I just wanna vibe to the music.
Gen 5 will get better once I debut, I got you all 😉
How are we already in 5th gen? That’[s the real question.
I'm not sure that we are. I think it's coming soon though with some industry changes.
@ We are… it started in 2023 and the 6th gen starts in 2025. I just don’t get why so fast.
I don't understand why there should be like 1 artist on top, 2 or 3 below them and the rest somewhere in the shadow. There is enough space for everyone. Kpop is an industry, not a genre. Just like the western industry. There are Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd. If someone can point me out who is the biggest among these, okay, but otherwise, everyone is big in their own genres and concepts
Son los celos, siempre piensan que tienen que competir y no se dan cuenta, que hay espacio de sobra para todos.
the one that sells out stadiums is the biggest .
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv Many Kpop groups sell out stadiums
well supposedly theres also a known "big 3" in the rap community its Drake, Kendrick & J cole
@@musicinterest-dib but they dont have recognition
7. I can see why people would say it's low budget, but honestly I think people enjoyed it regardless and there's definitely something different about a stripped down barebones concert that lets the girls' talents be the star of the show while also creating a nice, intimate environment with the audience.
9: THANK YOU AGAIN! 😂 This was BLOODY INCREDIBLE. Like, visually so captivating.
It's like a mix of Rain, Spell, or in general, the performance unit in THE BEST way. I feel like this is SO Minghao's aesthetic. It's one of my favourite solo songs out of the SEVENTEEN members.
4:22, you did not understand the question actually. When aespa, ive, lsrfm, newjeans debuted, they left a huge impact, they did from the start not after 2 years of debut, unlike 5th gen groups. the only 5th gen group comes to my mind is babymonster, and although they are incredibly talented, their songs are average(though i listen to all of them)...
Both fandoms this year and last year proved that such news will not slide easy.
I'll never understand the over amount of album version.
OMG. I am so tired of New Jeans, pls let's stop talking about their bullish*t and focus on the positive things in Kpop. Their drama ended their music career and that's a fact. I don't get why Billboard mentioned them since their music is boring café typa sh*t and no one can't explain to me otherwise. I am tired of their ego and behaviour as if they have established a new music genre and are the next Beyoncé in terms of artistry.
Oh please, shut the f up, you're just a hater bcoz everyone knows NJ's music is unique and it's good. Also billboard mentioned them bcoz they are popular artists with trending songs go cry about it loser😂
@@Diveintobunnies unique? its the same as everyone else they are good but shut up they aren't special
@@Diveintobunnies lol why do you call them nj? they arent nj anymore
@@amandacantcometothephone they have a unique style of music, I guess you're not smart enough to understand that😂
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv Whatever you want to call them that's your damn business
second half of 4th gen is when kpop started going to shit. its all about having international records to your name just for bragging rights, every song is made just to be a commercial hit on tiktok or Instagram its rarely ever about genuine quality music. which is also so strange to me especially because now more kpop artists are involved in the making of the music rather than just being the face for what the company creates. idk kpop isnt kpopping lately
so you basically dont want them to display their own thoughts and ceativity instead want them to be puppets of company?
@RekhaSharma-hh1sv and where did i say that?
@@lilbrownbear 2nd sentence?
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv sweetie read it again s l o w l y. I'll explain it if u still don't get it.
How is 5th gen defined anyway? They don’t sound any different than 4th gen or even later 3rd gen groups. Fourth gen used to get a lot of criticism because they had a lot of trouble competing with third gen groups as well, especially boy groups. Because the market is so crowded now, it’s hard for groups to succeed unless they grab attention right from the get go. I think we will still have some monster groups, but not as many.
5th gen has just started, but BM managed to sell out their first concert in Seoul in just 5 hours. Kiss of Life brings back the sexy concept reminiscent of the 2nd and early 3rd gen, and they're already charting well. Other groups are also doing great. They’ve already achieved a lot, so give them a few years to grow-they’ll likely find success like 4th gen groups. The reason 4th gen is more successful right now is that many 3rd gen idols are either in the military or pursuing solo careers. This pattern always happens-just like how 3rd gen groups gained more attention or rule K-pop when 2nd gen groups started disbanding or going solo.
@@none6632 selling out a concert in 5hours isnt really achievement!
babyflopster fans hype them up too much yet they cant get them a music show win. their songs suck. Overrated
Illit the only 5th gen group with global impact 🥴
@@none6632 just started?? 😂
I think it's in 5 days not hours@@none6632
Riize, Kiss of life and babymonster would probably be 5th gen leaders
Zerobaseone is right there now bffr
@@queenlin and they're gonna stay there
Babymon sneak?? Only popular cuz of blackpink drought 💀
@@1onlyjayjay kpop stan always discreadit baemon need to be study like if theyre flop people saying 'even blackpink couldnt save them' like wtf did yall want them to do??😭
@@Ahycon
Did I say allat? No. I just said they are popular cuz of blackpink. Which is 100% true btw
Nothing to do with kpop, but how are y'all spending this holiday season? 🤗🎄✨
STUDYING!!! I hope you are drowning in hot chocolates and gifts tho
I'm a K-pop stan so, this holiday, I'm going to pawn everything I own just so I can give away my life saving to help my favs pay for their court fees, even if I'm broke and homeless. Merry Christmas ❤
@@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV dude if u hate kpop stans just stay away from kpop content , no need to spread negativity.
rotting in bed.
i am studying as well😭exams in 4 months...how are you doing?
Two ppl dating…… like is not a crime. Next
The thing you said about Fifty Fifty is like the only thing I agree with you on
no one cares😂😂
Yuna is a reallyyy good performer idk what they’re onto ,they just discredit her cuz she’s pretty
I completely disagree on Orbit and Shohikigen. Stardust was a masterpiece, so much better than expected and Shohikigen was beautiful and meaningful, stunning vocals and no need of overproduction
Don't even try, she's hate almost everything.
@@sanyk-t6c It's her opinion, I don't agree with her almost 80% of the time but I can't judge her either. Music it's subjective after all. What I hate is when people use 'opinion' as their way to hate, insult or discredit someone else
@@Universe_Factory_ShiningGem exactly. And most funny thing is when song from her ult groups - fresh, interesting good melody.
Exactly the same song (be honest, some songs are similar, NOT COPY OR PLAGIARISM, but still) from groups she's didn't like - boring, is now 2016?, repetitive.
@@sanyk-t6c well then we should be thankful music is subjective. I don't really know her opinion about all groups in general cause I don't follow her and I usually avoid 'opinion' videos but yeah...sometimes 'opinions' are messed up. Kpop stans tend to love and defend their ults when the song is low quality and boring and hate on others even when the song is a masterpiece just cause they're salty about it, that's why I don't really care about others opinions. I say mine and move on
@@sanyk-t6cshe has the right to! Y’all love mediocre idols and songs
CONGRATS ON 15K :)
Thanks! It's all thanks to you guys!
@@kpop-spySee you at 20K soon! 💪🏁🏃♀️💨
I get the pricing though, their not coming back as GFriend permeantly, it's just a temporary thing maybe once in a lifetime, atleast that's what i think, because some members still have their own career to worry about as viviz and viviz doesn't fall under SOURCE MUSIC. so get why it would be so expensive, 1. A highly recommend comback, 2. It might be the last until a long time 3. They might flop so you better get as much money as possible while it lasts. Those are the reasons.
In my opinion kpop spy, rose's crib, rosiary and lemonkookie are some of the few unbiased true channels out here.
All of them have bias.
Nah the only one is kpop spy. I’ve seen the other three and they’re kinda questionable
@@stargazing2628true this one is a stay, atiny and army and more anything related to these group she/he will justify it
@@kayziofficialthat sounds like a joke, because this channel is beyond biased and also unoriginal.
Abt wonyoung/yuna BRUH LOOKING PRETTY IS ALSO PART OF THEIR JOB
No one is reading all that just letting you know
Yuna has talent, Wonyoung is a terrible dancer so she has to look pretty on stage lmaooo!!
@@Sandrinarhondawonyoung is very hard working tho. She improved her vocals and stage presence so much
@ still a terrible dancer!!
@@SandrinarhondaI agree.she looks like bones are about to fall
Dang love the thumbnail
Todos los fandoms tienen un lado tóxico, pero los Bunnys, realmente están trabajando para crear una nueva categoría de toxicidad 😅
LMAO 😂
Wth , 5th gen didn't even started yet .
We're in "transition" era , just like gidle or itzy back then .
I also consider G-Idle 3.5 gen, but Itzy? Interesting take
What crazy is that jungwon doesn't drink or smoke. He is not dating.
When will fans respect idols privacy
What performance did you use for the "5th gen is getting overshadowed" section?
Boynextdoor
9: OMG I JUST REALISED THAT I MADE THAT COMMENT TYSMMMMMMM ❤💕❤️💕❤️
I do disagree with some of the 5th gen comments. Babymon has YG and years of teasers for their group, they have the same if not more resources than a group like IVE, even considering IVE’s IZONE boost.
I think groups should have time to bloom, but there is a point that the 5th gen groups didn’t make as much splash as previous generations. I don’t think it’s a lack of talent.
Hybe ggs in shambles, they had to bring back the queens GFriend to save the company
shambles? and yet they are in top 5 most streamed gg albums this year .
Learn to research proper information about G-friend. Why they are currently back before using them to hate on lesserafirm and illit. Ugly lesserafirm anti please
Y’all are so blinded by hate towards hype ggs that you roll out unfounded claims and label them as gospel truth. Just be happy that the gfriend girls are going to perform no need to attack other groups. Such comments are the ones that start the hate campaigns
Don't freaking drag our girls in your delusional dream of trying to hate other groups, keep my girls out of it. They are finally back after 4 freaking years, we don't want any useless and unnecessary drama
Only NJs
this might be irrelevant to everyone but its such an interesting coincidence to me that i just found out like 2-3 days ago that some people ship winter and beomgyu while some call them twins and now her dating rumour with jongwon comes out lol
Btw , who are the groups at 5th gen anyway? Why these generations count so fast ? 😅
Baemon, kiof, illit, xikers, riize, zb1, bnd, that's what i remember
@ oh wow… nvr heard almost all of them… only one i know here is illit… and thts only recently , bc of the drama 😂
6. Agreed for wonyoung, disagreed for Yuna. Idt we can compare yuna's stage performance to wonyoung's tbh.
True
no disagree on wonyoung because i have never heard her sing live
That's the problem with people like you. You say you've never heard her sing live because you don't bother actually searching it up to see for yourselves. Wonyoung has improved SO MUCH-heck even IVE as a group has Improved so much in the vocal department + in their live performances. You'll hate and demand for proof when it's right in front of your eyes. But no, you instantly turn deaf and blind.
2: I read somewhere that it wasn't Winter, it was Jungwon's OWN MOTHER 💀😫🤣 But I know FOR SURE that this ain't true because Jungwon went on live to say that he is not dating. From what I heard, he was reading the comments in his live, and one fan asked in the comments: "Are you dating?" and too that, Jungwon replied briefly: "No, I am not dating. I don't smoke either."
So please guys, let's stop the speculations and accusations now because he's addressed publicly that HE IS NOT DATING‼️
I thought Jay was spotted with his mother not Jungwon🤔
@@BELIEVER78989Idk now 😂💤😴
Lol I think it's time for some YG talk, nobody is calling you out on dissing Babymonster and being so harsh on them. You find literally insult the girls and the company, saying they release trash music, but have you even reviewed each of their song in DRIP? No. Why? Allergic to compliment. It looks like dissing YG is in your DNA, and we don't talk enough about it. Their B sides were so good and you really didn't speak about it. But instead, talked about how Drip was such a bad comeback. Sure, the chorus is nowhere, the instrumental may be old, but compared to their history of title tracks, it's still very refreshing. Also, you basically insulted your, fav YG artist, G Dragon, by calling out that Drip was a bad comeback. Seriously? Praising Home Sweet Home? And then calling out on Drip like that? Its peak favouritism, and it needs to be called out. Insulting and harrassing BM and then saying, "I pity the girls, they're talented!" Just so that the fans won't attack you is such a manipulate thing of you. We need you to rate their other songs in their album too, not like "they're all trash" but actually give a proper review to them. I want to see how far your favouritism will run ❤. Lots of love 🎀 (from a hardcore YG 😘)
No one likes the YG crime organization.
she is the one who defend baby monster's member when people were hating on her
they only present the facts
STILL BAEMON HAS TRASH SONGS
PEOPLE WANT SONGS OVER TALENT IN DAILY LIFE
@@Enha1009-engenereal tho, i'd rather listen to lsrfm illit ive than sheesh like wth is that (i used to like bm tho)
Ain't no way you're gonna defend woke up in tokyo ☠️ sorry their songs are trash af. I almost gave drip a pass until the highnote came 😢 well at least it's better than clik clak tho.
I think you somewhat contradict yourself between ur fifth gen argument and the idol calculation one. These groups need time to do the algorithm thing before they are able to just react and behave naturally. It’s like learning the fundamentals in sports and then freestyling once you have a solid base. Most of these groups don’t have the experience or self confidence built up via success and fan support to just be natural. And even the ones you mentioned as more raw took some time to achieve that. But also I agree there chosen were an odd choice to signal out.
SEVENTEEN MENTIONEDDDD
Okay so KMCA dropped a statement about the whole ablume and new jeans drama and how they will try to boycott them something around that area
What's your take on this
No es un boicot, elllos no van a comprar la mercancía o negar que alguien la compre. Pero si las van a poner en una lista negra, o sea , que no van a revelar los números y éso las va a sacar de las listas, los rankigs, los premios relacionados a los números .
Those tickets price are amazing shit I’d have to pay damn near a thousand dollars for a ticket to a bts concert 😂
I'm already dreading the ticket prices for BTS first tour after military service, but I promise I will be there.
@ for the people that left while they were on hiatus BACK of the line im getting those tickets 👉🏽
Did you delete your previous video? 😕 I saved it to watch it later but it’s not there anymore…
No, I just changed the title and thumbnail
@@kpop-spy alright thanks 😊
what's the fancam/group at 5:19? 😭
it’s BOYNEXTDOOR!!! the fandom name is Onedoor (stam boynextdoor, they’re one of my 7 ult groups!!! if u wanna listen to their songs i reccomend ‘Earth, Wind, and Fire’ or ‘But Sometimes’ and either ‘Serenade’ or ‘Nice Guy’)
Boynextdoor ❤❤❤
boynextdoor!! please check them out they are super amazing, talented and funny :))