Opinions on all The K-Pop Winners And Performances From The “2024 Billboard Music Awards”? Here are the nominations and winners: *Top K-Pop Touring Artist* For this category, ENHYPEN, TXT, and SEVENTEEN were nominated for the award, SEVENTEEN were announced as the winner *Top Global K-Pop Artist* ENHYPEN, BTS‘s Jimin, BTS’s Jungkook, Stray Kids and TXT were all nominated for this award, and Stray Kids were announced winners. *Top Global K-Pop Song* For this category, ILLIT‘s “Magnetic,” BTS Jimin’s “Who,” LE SSERAFIM‘s “Perfect Night,” and Jungkook’s “Standing Next To You” and “3D (featuring Jack Harlow) were all nominated. *Top K-Pop Album* For this category, ATEEZ’s The World EP.Fin: Will, Jungkook’s Golden, TXT‘s The Name Chapter: Freefall, Stray Kids’ 樂-STAR, and ATE albums were nominated for the award.
1: Why is this laptop thing even a debate? Isn't it not HYBE’s property? Doesn’t matter if it’s packed with personal info-if it’s not yours, it can be taken back at any time. And honestly, which dumbass decides to put personal stuff on a work laptop and then cry about it? You knew it was a company device the second you started using it for personal reasons. Saying, “Oh, but it has my personal information on it, so I can’t give it back” is just ridiculous. Like, what? That’s on you for mixing work and personal. It’s basic logic-it’s HYBE/ADOR’s property. Surely this is in their company policies; it’s standard everywhere. Just because you’re allowed to use it for both work and personal stuff doesn’t magically make it yours. Like think about it this way: you borrow a school laptop till you finish school-why would you dump all your personal details into a device that isn’t even yours to begin with? 😂
Thank you for speaking on Keena. One thing I think people miss is that keeping the name and releasing new music under the name helps Keena legally fight for the credits on Cupid that the givers stole from her. It’s a smart legal move to ensure she gets what she deserves.
ENGENEs and MYs need a fandom clean ASAP, especially ENGENEs. They need to understand that ENHYPEN are not their significant others and probably have someone lying in their bed right now.
EXACTLY as an engene myself I understand making jokes and ACTING delulu and stuff but spreading hate 2 seconds after photos come out is genuinely insane. Like there was a Korean fan who when the accusations came out made a video painting over jw face with NAIL POLISH and once jungwon cleared his and winters name she made another vid taking it off 😭 the descriptions on both were sickening. Because I’m not a MY I haven’t personally seen the hate for winter but I’ve heated it was BAD. It’s disgusting how some fans can’t handle their idols being people ffs
Again. I'll scream this from a rooftop. IDOLS DONT OWE FANS ANYTHING. Jungwon and Winter was js existing, they dont need to explain anything to anyone of these tragic fans
Is funny how ppl that are defending Nj is saying “oh but ador is harassing the staff taking the laptops “ But the reality was that Nj manager later admitted to reaching investors and deals for Nj excluding ador and hybe. That’s bad and sabotaging contract! Hate hybe all you want but hybe is right here.
Why are y'all in such a hurry with groups that have just debuted?? Nobody debuts with guaranteed fame, let the rookies be rookies and experice their pace. Also y'all said the same with 4th gen like be fr
2. Again, CANNOT believe how disconnected from the reality you have to be to start losing your shit over a celebrity dating. Like, tf? Girl, did you think you had a chance? Someone's feeling too important.
Hell, even 3rd gen isn't done yet. BTS, TWICE and SVT are still grinding as groups, many 3rd gen idols are still releasing music as solo like BP members and they are still in high demand. If you think 5th gen and their 14-15year old idols can achieve things that idols in their late 20's are achieving now, you are just putting delusional expectations on them.
4: "Coasting along"? That’s a take. Let’s break it down. First off, 5th gen just started. You’re comparing a few months of activity to the years it took 4th gen giants to "shatter records." Groups like IVE, AESPA, NEWJEANS, and LESSERAFIM didn’t come out the gate as instant legends; they built up momentum. Expecting 5th gen to dominate the same way immediately is setting a ridiculous standard. Second, if you actually pay attention, 5th gen groups are making waves. BABYMONSTER had one of the most hyped debuts of the year, and RIIZE, (and many other groups), are pulling crazy numbers on the charts and fan engagement-numbers that even some senior groups would envy. Just because they're not the talk of every global platform yet doesn’t mean they're "getting overshadowed." Also, let’s not pretend the K-pop market is stagnant. The spotlight isn't stolen forever; it's constantly shifting. 5th gen groups are finding their footing, building their identities, and capturing different audiences. Dismissing them now is shortsighted at best. So, nah. They’re not "coasting"; you’re just impatient.
second half of 4th gen is when kpop started going to shit. its all about having international records to your name just for bragging rights, every song is made just to be a commercial hit on tiktok or Instagram its rarely ever about genuine quality music. which is also so strange to me especially because now more kpop artists are involved in the making of the music rather than just being the face for what the company creates. idk kpop isnt kpopping lately
Some Kpop fans are SO disconnected from reality they forget how a big, legally formed, corporation works. Or perhaps they are jobless and have never even stepped foot into the real world yet to know all this. Either way, its pathetic to see them be so dumb, like guys, KEEP YOUR PHONE DOWN AND GO OUTSIDE, GET A LIFE, TOUCH SOME GRASS. You'll see how the world works then.
Enhyphen are so unlucky with their fans😂😂😂 like imagine being toxic about yr idol dating when you could never in yr life date that idol, like let idols start sueing for fake rumors
@vaish9962 I feel sorry for kpop idols tho 😭😭😭 imagine a grown woman crying over a guy u won't even be able in your afterlife date or get married, Just be a fan and be supported, most kpop fans are too obsessive, even the companies makes things worst ☠️☠️☠️
Tbh aside from some k/c fans , i didnt see much of hate from engenes this time.. or maybe my timeline was good ,coz many were mad at belift and sasaengs
9: THANK YOU SO SO SO SOOO MUCH! The song’s got all the typical idol ballad vibes: emotional, dramatic, and perfect for showing off those killer vocals. But what sets it apart for me is the rock guitar. It starts off all soft and pretty with the strings-super OST-core-but then slowly builds into something massive. It’s got that cozy, seasonal feel, but by the time the guitar kicks in during the pre-chorus, it starts getting gritty in the best way. The chorus could’ve hit harder melody-wise, but it’s still got a ton of weight and drama that makes it satisfying. It feels like the song shifts from this gentle, sentimental vibe to full-on cinematic action movie energy, and that growth is what makes it work so well. It’s definitely a standout for me.
I actually really like multiple versions lol. I like being able to pick which concept and aesthetic my albums have versus having to settle for one basic one.
Didnt ador ask that poor manager before to hand them over for investigation? Thats a company's basic right lmao. Someone wouldnt hesitate to do that if they have nothing to hide yk
9: I think CARATS will get this: It feels like a sequel to the IMA MV, especially with how the members hug each other so lovingly. And the fact that Scoups, SEVENTEEN’s leader, held onto their family portrait from the IMA MV like it's forever? So wholesome and heartwarming 🥺💖. It’s like they’re saying, no matter what happens, their love for each other will never fade, and SEVENTEEN will always stick together 💫💞😭😩
I'm a K-pop stan so, this holiday, I'm going to pawn everything I own just so I can give away my life saving to help my favs pay for their court fees, even if I'm broke and homeless. Merry Christmas ❤
OMG. I am so tired of New Jeans, pls let's stop talking about their bullish*t and focus on the positive things in Kpop. Their drama ended their music career and that's a fact. I don't get why Billboard mentioned them since their music is boring café typa sh*t and no one can't explain to me otherwise. I am tired of their ego and behaviour as if they have established a new music genre and are the next Beyoncé in terms of artistry.
Oh please, shut the f up, you're just a hater bcoz everyone knows NJ's music is unique and it's good. Also billboard mentioned them bcoz they are popular artists with trending songs go cry about it loser😂
as a person who met kpop at it's third generation but only got to really enjoy it at it's fourth and now am only navigating through groups, I miss the good ol' days when having female backup dancers were not compared as launching a nuclear attack, when interaction between female and male groups in music shows, awards and variety shows wasn't deemed on backlash, why are people so dumb nowadays? It's so toxic, I just wish to protect the idols sometimes, especially the newer ones, they've got no idea what they're signing up for, one can't be human in this industry, and when companies resort to virtual or mocap idols, they say they're replacing people for machines, well, I'm not a big fan of AI created idols, but I'm not against using motion-capture, the way plave does, because it keeps the humans behind the idols safe, they can have a normal life, be who they are, date, spend time with families, or at least it is more normal to some degree... to sum it up: what the hell happened to K-pop fans and industry?
Fairss I guess it depends on how your like when you spend money. No way am I spending money for a concert ticket that costs over 500+ I'll spend that on something else tyvm 😊
0:21 anyone saying this lives under a rock. Babymonster is performing at the kspo dome after 1.1 years since debut and might I add they sold out in 8 minutes, magnetic was the #1 contender for SOTY against supernova. Wake up people
6: First of all, "looking pretty" and performing are not mutually exclusive. Idols like Yuna and Wonyoung are constantly scrutinized for their visuals-by fans and critics alike-so of course that aspect is part of their performance. But to reduce their entire stage presence to just "a calculated visual algorithm"? That’s unfair and honestly a lazy take. These are idols who’ve trained for years to master vocals, dance, and stage presence. You think they hit every move, nail every note, and command a global audience by just standing there looking pretty? If they look effortless, it’s because they’re damn good at what they do. Maybe you’re mistaking professionalism and polish for "android-like" perfection. And let’s not act like being "self-aware" on stage is a bad thing. They know what fans expect, they know what the industry demands, and they’re delivering it. That’s not a flaw-it’s part of why they’re dominating. So, yeah, maybe take a step back and appreciate the grind instead of nitpicking their perfection.
Вы не поняли претензию к ним, и доказали её. "Они делают то, что от них ожидают фанаты" - в этом проблема. Они БОЯТСЯ выглядеть не идеально/реально (по мнению фанатов), и позволяют им и далее задирать планку.
@@sanyk-t6cNope, I understood the claim just fine; you’re the one spinning it into something it’s not. Let’s dissect your point: you’re blaming Yuna and Wonyoung for being too good at meeting fan expectations. Really? That’s like criticizing a chef for making their food taste exactly how the customers love it. The issue isn’t with them; it’s with the so-called "fans" who demand this level of perfection. Maybe redirect your frustration there. You say they’re "afraid of not looking perfect." No, they’re not afraid-they’re professionals. They understand the industry they’re in: one built on visuals and talent. If they occasionally lean into their strengths (which, surprise, includes looking stunning), that’s a calculated choice, not fear. Perfectionism in their field is a sign of mastery, not weakness. And let’s get one thing straight: they aren’t the ones raising the bar-you are. Fans and critics constantly nitpick every angle, every move, every expression, then turn around and blame the idols for keeping up with these absurd expectations. It’s hypocrisy at its finest. So, no, the problem isn’t Yuna and Wonyoung being "too perfect." The problem is people like you refusing to acknowledge their hard work and boiling their artistry down to aesthetics just because they make it look easy. That’s not on them-that’s on you.
1. At this point, I think people are just choosing sides based on who they like. A majority of responses and statements from both sides of the conflict have stable evidence or compelling parts. It really comes down to whether you believe what they say or not because we can throw the evidence in your face and people on both sides will still say “media play” or “they’re obviously lying”. 4. I would actually say 5th gen, this year specifically, has been really freaking good. I mean look at Kiss of Life, ILLIT, Baby Monster, TripleS, TWS. They’ve been flourishing this year. 6. This should’ve never been a main marketing tool. We already complain about this enough in western music.
2: "Meanwhile, ENHYPEN's fans acted like the world was ending, which is pretty on brand for a fandom that lost it's collective minds over female backup dancers." YOU DID NAWT- 💀💀😭😭🤣🤣
9: THANK YOU AGAIN! 😂 This was BLOODY INCREDIBLE. Like, visually so captivating. It's like a mix of Rain, Spell, or in general, the performance unit in THE BEST way. I feel like this is SO Minghao's aesthetic. It's one of my favourite solo songs out of the SEVENTEEN members.
When you have millions of people criticising your every single move, look, expression, smile, and body language, the self-awareness will never turn down a notch. Plus, yeah, putting Yuna or Wonyoung was a wrong example. These two deliver amazing performances idc what anyone says. Y'all always want idols with real (conventionally pretty but acting 'ugly' while doing certain things) until you get them and then suddenly, they are unprofessional, not aware, a bit too loose, need some camera training, blah blah blah.
this might be irrelevant to everyone but its such an interesting coincidence to me that i just found out like 2-3 days ago that some people ship winter and beomgyu while some call them twins and now her dating rumour with jongwon comes out lol
7. I can see why people would say it's low budget, but honestly I think people enjoyed it regardless and there's definitely something different about a stripped down barebones concert that lets the girls' talents be the star of the show while also creating a nice, intimate environment with the audience.
I don't understand why there should be like 1 artist on top, 2 or 3 below them and the rest somewhere in the shadow. There is enough space for everyone. Kpop is an industry, not a genre. Just like the western industry. There are Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd. If someone can point me out who is the biggest among these, okay, but otherwise, everyone is big in their own genres and concepts
Generations don’t matter. Bts, blackpink and svt still going strong although in 3rd gen, stray kids debuting barely in 4th gen is out here still growing and competing with western artists, ateez also barely making it into 4th gen still growing
Sorry to say as an army I know certain sections of army who are extremely toxic and disgusting I know we always can't take accountability but you should call them out protect your idols or artist whatever from harresment and stupid dating scandal
No one knows a single song from best selling kpop albums these days (ofc there are few exceptions) like you don't have to make songs just put some photo cards and a big azz photo book those fans would throw money left and right they don't even stream title track to make it less obvious
With 49 Taylor Swift' Grammy i don't know any of her song. And people like me, millions and millions in the world. Many people even have no idea, who she is. But also millions and millions of people know her and her songs and is listening them every day. If you can't named song from best selling albums, that doesn't mean that other also.
Lol I think it's time for some YG talk, nobody is calling you out on dissing Babymonster and being so harsh on them. You find literally insult the girls and the company, saying they release trash music, but have you even reviewed each of their song in DRIP? No. Why? Allergic to compliment. It looks like dissing YG is in your DNA, and we don't talk enough about it. Their B sides were so good and you really didn't speak about it. But instead, talked about how Drip was such a bad comeback. Sure, the chorus is nowhere, the instrumental may be old, but compared to their history of title tracks, it's still very refreshing. Also, you basically insulted your, fav YG artist, G Dragon, by calling out that Drip was a bad comeback. Seriously? Praising Home Sweet Home? And then calling out on Drip like that? Its peak favouritism, and it needs to be called out. Insulting and harrassing BM and then saying, "I pity the girls, they're talented!" Just so that the fans won't attack you is such a manipulate thing of you. We need you to rate their other songs in their album too, not like "they're all trash" but actually give a proper review to them. I want to see how far your favouritism will run ❤. Lots of love 🎀 (from a hardcore YG 😘)
Ain't no way you're gonna defend woke up in tokyo ☠️ sorry their songs are trash af. I almost gave drip a pass until the highnote came 😢 well at least it's better than clik clak tho.
I have been an Army since 2017 and I honestly say that since the pandemic, butter and dynamite have changed a lot. I am not a fan of BP. But this hatred among each other is not what I stand for
Ningún Grupo puede controlar a los fandoms, siempre hay un lado feo , pero mientras la mayoría no involucren a los idols y eviten unirse a los conflictos, podemos ganarle al lado tóxico .
@@christinelaur6340weird how your "treated as badly as a man" comment got 1 like but you're "I can't imagine how women feel" comment got more. Kinda proving how ppl don't really care when it's men and only care when it's women
That's the problem with people like you. You say you've never heard her sing live because you don't bother actually searching it up to see for yourselves. Wonyoung has improved SO MUCH-heck even IVE as a group has Improved so much in the vocal department + in their live performances. You'll hate and demand for proof when it's right in front of your eyes. But no, you instantly turn deaf and blind.
Learn to research proper information about G-friend. Why they are currently back before using them to hate on lesserafirm and illit. Ugly lesserafirm anti please
I think you somewhat contradict yourself between ur fifth gen argument and the idol calculation one. These groups need time to do the algorithm thing before they are able to just react and behave naturally. It’s like learning the fundamentals in sports and then freestyling once you have a solid base. Most of these groups don’t have the experience or self confidence built up via success and fan support to just be natural. And even the ones you mentioned as more raw took some time to achieve that. But also I agree there chosen were an odd choice to signal out.
Okay so KMCA dropped a statement about the whole ablume and new jeans drama and how they will try to boycott them something around that area What's your take on this
No es un boicot, elllos no van a comprar la mercancía o negar que alguien la compre. Pero si las van a poner en una lista negra, o sea , que no van a revelar los números y éso las va a sacar de las listas, los rankigs, los premios relacionados a los números .
2: I read somewhere that it wasn't Winter, it was Jungwon's OWN MOTHER 💀😫🤣 But I know FOR SURE that this ain't true because Jungwon went on live to say that he is not dating. From what I heard, he was reading the comments in his live, and one fan asked in the comments: "Are you dating?" and too that, Jungwon replied briefly: "No, I am not dating. I don't smoke either." So please guys, let's stop the speculations and accusations now because he's addressed publicly that HE IS NOT DATING‼️
Now kmc is trying to blacklist them I am not on anyone side But how is this even acceptable? Unless new jeans have been proved of actual crimes or tampering How is this even allowed Groups who have done worse r thriving Yet the new jeans girls r being treated so harshly I don't Stan new jeans nor am a fan of their songs at all But the way people are rooting for the downfall is scary It is obvious they were gonna lose anyways They r up against a multi billionaire compared
I believe it’s because of how much they succeed in such a short time. Same with how much ppl wanted to see fifty fifty fail. It’s just jealousy and pure hatred.
5th gen babymonster is literally competing with the most popular 4th gen ggs. Who tf said 5th gen has no potential? Have you seen their popularity, views, streams & subscribers? Their concerts & albums everything is sold out instantly & their global popularity is through the roof. Despite being a rookie group, they are probably the most talented, well-rounded & versatile idols in entire k-pop history. Kiss of life, meovv are doing very well too. Who tf said 5th gen have no potential??? Don't use the untalented & untrained hybe girl groups as standards to judge 5th gen.
Views- ad, Streams- bp SEA fans streaming.. other than that which of their song went viral or is famous among public, answer NONE.. they are lot of talented idols out there, so sit down...
Opinions on all The K-Pop Winners And Performances From The “2024 Billboard Music Awards”?
Here are the nominations and winners:
*Top K-Pop Touring Artist*
For this category, ENHYPEN, TXT, and SEVENTEEN were nominated for the award, SEVENTEEN were announced as the winner
*Top Global K-Pop Artist*
ENHYPEN, BTS‘s Jimin, BTS’s Jungkook, Stray Kids and TXT were all nominated for this award, and Stray Kids were announced winners.
*Top Global K-Pop Song*
For this category, ILLIT‘s “Magnetic,” BTS Jimin’s “Who,” LE SSERAFIM‘s “Perfect Night,” and Jungkook’s “Standing Next To You” and “3D (featuring Jack Harlow) were all nominated.
*Top K-Pop Album*
For this category, ATEEZ’s The World EP.Fin: Will, Jungkook’s Golden, TXT‘s The Name Chapter: Freefall, Stray Kids’ 樂-STAR, and ATE albums were nominated for the award.
Aw thanks for the pin and the hearts. Is this a hint for your next video? 👀😁
Yes 😁😁
@@kpop-spyOkayyyy looking forward to it! ⌚🗓️😁
'There's a reason mhj threw her laptop into the river'😂😂 that's so funny😂
1: Why is this laptop thing even a debate? Isn't it not HYBE’s property? Doesn’t matter if it’s packed with personal info-if it’s not yours, it can be taken back at any time. And honestly, which dumbass decides to put personal stuff on a work laptop and then cry about it? You knew it was a company device the second you started using it for personal reasons. Saying, “Oh, but it has my personal information on it, so I can’t give it back” is just ridiculous. Like, what? That’s on you for mixing work and personal.
It’s basic logic-it’s HYBE/ADOR’s property. Surely this is in their company policies; it’s standard everywhere. Just because you’re allowed to use it for both work and personal stuff doesn’t magically make it yours. Like think about it this way: you borrow a school laptop till you finish school-why would you dump all your personal details into a device that isn’t even yours to begin with? 😂
Right!
the laptop and its work info stored IS COMPANY PROPERTY, it is illegal to not return it whenever asked to the employer.
Y también borrar la información, el contenido no se le puede negar a la compañía ( más si no había nada extraño)
Bunnies gotta learn to read for reallllllll the facts are all out there 😂
Cult members don't do fact-checking. They only follow whomever they worship off the cliff.
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL how do u know YOUR fandom aint a cult👀💀👈🏻
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL honestly thats so true
@Gojo-ki-poookie did i struck a nerve? 😂
If I didn't, you wouldn't comment on my comment.
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL nah, im genuinely asking. Just say ur in denial lol
Thank you for speaking on Keena. One thing I think people miss is that keeping the name and releasing new music under the name helps Keena legally fight for the credits on Cupid that the givers stole from her. It’s a smart legal move to ensure she gets what she deserves.
ENGENEs and MYs need a fandom clean ASAP, especially ENGENEs. They need to understand that ENHYPEN are not their significant others and probably have someone lying in their bed right now.
@@ærina.æ real i fear(ure everywhere)
EXACTLY as an engene myself I understand making jokes and ACTING delulu and stuff but spreading hate 2 seconds after photos come out is genuinely insane. Like there was a Korean fan who when the accusations came out made a video painting over jw face with NAIL POLISH and once jungwon cleared his and winters name she made another vid taking it off 😭 the descriptions on both were sickening. Because I’m not a MY I haven’t personally seen the hate for winter but I’ve heated it was BAD. It’s disgusting how some fans can’t handle their idols being people ffs
REALLL OMG
I'm an engene myself and kinda delulu but NEVER IN THE WORLD would i get jealous if they dated someone
@@mintyy_freshI’m not a bot, I promise.
@@DdeonubreadI’m happy that Jungwon stood for himself. People need to understand that idols are not puppets to control over. ‼️
Again. I'll scream this from a rooftop. IDOLS DONT OWE FANS ANYTHING. Jungwon and Winter was js existing, they dont need to explain anything to anyone of these tragic fans
Yes go queen say it im not enge but i know every kpop group gg or bg there us section of this toxic disgusting fans
@MsRainyStarzz da only thing they owe us r being good idols ig, as they say…Idc who they bangin as long as they release bangers💥
Is funny how ppl that are defending Nj is saying “oh but ador is harassing the staff taking the laptops “
But the reality was that Nj manager later admitted to reaching investors and deals for Nj excluding ador and hybe. That’s bad and sabotaging contract!
Hate hybe all you want but hybe is right here.
5th gen were born yesterday. People need to calm down.
No one is reading all that just letting you know
@ ok. And?
😭😭😭 I laughed too hard for this 😂
Why are y'all in such a hurry with groups that have just debuted?? Nobody debuts with guaranteed fame, let the rookies be rookies and experice their pace. Also y'all said the same with 4th gen like be fr
No one is reading all that just letting you know
2. Again, CANNOT believe how disconnected from the reality you have to be to start losing your shit over a celebrity dating. Like, tf? Girl, did you think you had a chance? Someone's feeling too important.
Unrelated opinion: stay and bunnies are the new blinks and army
bunnies did so many raks paks and daesangs
I fear thats real.
Umm idts. There r a few milestones that bunny's r yet to achieve for that title
Please leave army alone. They are not dumb as bunnshit.
@@RYUs_addractive_galLMAO US BOTH BEING STAYS MAKES IT MORE REAL😭
Hell, even 3rd gen isn't done yet. BTS, TWICE and SVT are still grinding as groups, many 3rd gen idols are still releasing music as solo like BP members and they are still in high demand. If you think 5th gen and their 14-15year old idols can achieve things that idols in their late 20's are achieving now, you are just putting delusional expectations on them.
Because they are still called idols, never going beyond that.
I swear kpop fans lack critical thinking. Just read whatever information is given instead of doing research. 🤦🏻
Like my username 😊
That first person had all their facts wrong. The personal phone wasn't even taken. Also, it WAS a work meeting to investigate the managers actions 😂
Guess NJ are starting to get blacklisted in sk..
Ahora tiene nombre Nuevo, pero siguen usando todo lo de NJ, como el canal 😅
4: "Coasting along"? That’s a take. Let’s break it down. First off, 5th gen just started. You’re comparing a few months of activity to the years it took 4th gen giants to "shatter records." Groups like IVE, AESPA, NEWJEANS, and LESSERAFIM didn’t come out the gate as instant legends; they built up momentum. Expecting 5th gen to dominate the same way immediately is setting a ridiculous standard.
Second, if you actually pay attention, 5th gen groups are making waves. BABYMONSTER had one of the most hyped debuts of the year, and RIIZE, (and many other groups), are pulling crazy numbers on the charts and fan engagement-numbers that even some senior groups would envy. Just because they're not the talk of every global platform yet doesn’t mean they're "getting overshadowed."
Also, let’s not pretend the K-pop market is stagnant. The spotlight isn't stolen forever; it's constantly shifting. 5th gen groups are finding their footing, building their identities, and capturing different audiences. Dismissing them now is shortsighted at best.
So, nah. They’re not "coasting"; you’re just impatient.
second half of 4th gen is when kpop started going to shit. its all about having international records to your name just for bragging rights, every song is made just to be a commercial hit on tiktok or Instagram its rarely ever about genuine quality music. which is also so strange to me especially because now more kpop artists are involved in the making of the music rather than just being the face for what the company creates. idk kpop isnt kpopping lately
so you basically dont want them to display their own thoughts and ceativity instead want them to be puppets of company?
Some Kpop fans are SO disconnected from reality they forget how a big, legally formed, corporation works. Or perhaps they are jobless and have never even stepped foot into the real world yet to know all this. Either way, its pathetic to see them be so dumb, like guys, KEEP YOUR PHONE DOWN AND GO OUTSIDE, GET A LIFE, TOUCH SOME GRASS. You'll see how the world works then.
like it wasn't the manager's personal laptop
trying to do a secret deal on a company's laptop and phone is wild 😂😂😂😂
I completely agree on your opinion about Winter and Jungwon, idols are people, let them live.
Enhyphen are so unlucky with their fans😂😂😂 like imagine being toxic about yr idol dating when you could never in yr life date that idol, like let idols start sueing for fake rumors
really there soo toxic a saseng booked the flight next to enhypen on plane
@vaish9962 I feel sorry for kpop idols tho 😭😭😭 imagine a grown woman crying over a guy u won't even be able in your afterlife date or get married, Just be a fan and be supported, most kpop fans are too obsessive, even the companies makes things worst ☠️☠️☠️
Tbh aside from some k/c fans , i didnt see much of hate from engenes this time.. or maybe my timeline was good ,coz many were mad at belift and sasaengs
@@safz15 idk but my side on insta had some unhinged things
9: THANK YOU SO SO SO SOOO MUCH! The song’s got all the typical idol ballad vibes: emotional, dramatic, and perfect for showing off those killer vocals. But what sets it apart for me is the rock guitar. It starts off all soft and pretty with the strings-super OST-core-but then slowly builds into something massive. It’s got that cozy, seasonal feel, but by the time the guitar kicks in during the pre-chorus, it starts getting gritty in the best way.
The chorus could’ve hit harder melody-wise, but it’s still got a ton of weight and drama that makes it satisfying. It feels like the song shifts from this gentle, sentimental vibe to full-on cinematic action movie energy, and that growth is what makes it work so well. It’s definitely a standout for me.
3: Babes what did you expect? This is a GFRIEND reunion after god knows how long 😂😭 why would the ticket prices be cheap?
I actually really like multiple versions lol. I like being able to pick which concept and aesthetic my albums have versus having to settle for one basic one.
Didnt ador ask that poor manager before to hand them over for investigation? Thats a company's basic right lmao. Someone wouldnt hesitate to do that if they have nothing to hide yk
@@Gojo-ki-poookie yeah, apparently he made a deal for newjeans without even asking ador.
@@RYUs_addractive_galand yet P00R
Manager
@Gojo-ki-poookie what do you mean by poor manage , she is working girl, she is not poor
@@AbigailTwumasi-ef2zw its sarcasm
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv oo OK sorry
9: I think CARATS will get this: It feels like a sequel to the IMA MV, especially with how the members hug each other so lovingly. And the fact that Scoups, SEVENTEEN’s leader, held onto their family portrait from the IMA MV like it's forever? So wholesome and heartwarming 🥺💖. It’s like they’re saying, no matter what happens, their love for each other will never fade, and SEVENTEEN will always stick together 💫💞😭😩
The Nj manager tried to do tampering and ador found out.
Nothing to do with kpop, but how are y'all spending this holiday season? 🤗🎄✨
STUDYING!!! I hope you are drowning in hot chocolates and gifts tho
I'm a K-pop stan so, this holiday, I'm going to pawn everything I own just so I can give away my life saving to help my favs pay for their court fees, even if I'm broke and homeless. Merry Christmas ❤
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL dude if u hate kpop stans just stay away from kpop content , no need to spread negativity.
rotting in bed.
i am studying as well😭exams in 4 months...how are you doing?
Abt wonyoung/yuna BRUH LOOKING PRETTY IS ALSO PART OF THEIR JOB
No one is reading all that just letting you know
Yuna has talent, Wonyoung is a terrible dancer so she has to look pretty on stage lmaooo!!
@@Sandrinarhondawonyoung is very hard working tho. She improved her vocals and stage presence so much
Todos los fandoms tienen un lado tóxico, pero los Bunnys, realmente están trabajando para crear una nueva categoría de toxicidad 😅
LMAO 😂
OMG. I am so tired of New Jeans, pls let's stop talking about their bullish*t and focus on the positive things in Kpop. Their drama ended their music career and that's a fact. I don't get why Billboard mentioned them since their music is boring café typa sh*t and no one can't explain to me otherwise. I am tired of their ego and behaviour as if they have established a new music genre and are the next Beyoncé in terms of artistry.
Oh please, shut the f up, you're just a hater bcoz everyone knows NJ's music is unique and it's good. Also billboard mentioned them bcoz they are popular artists with trending songs go cry about it loser😂
@@Diveintobunnies unique? its the same as everyone else they are good but shut up they aren't special
@@Diveintobunnies lol why do you call them nj? they arent nj anymore
@@amandacantcometothephone they have a unique style of music, I guess you're not smart enough to understand that😂
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv Whatever you want to call them that's your damn business
as a person who met kpop at it's third generation but only got to really enjoy it at it's fourth and now am only navigating through groups, I miss the good ol' days when having female backup dancers were not compared as launching a nuclear attack, when interaction between female and male groups in music shows, awards and variety shows wasn't deemed on backlash, why are people so dumb nowadays? It's so toxic, I just wish to protect the idols sometimes, especially the newer ones, they've got no idea what they're signing up for, one can't be human in this industry, and when companies resort to virtual or mocap idols, they say they're replacing people for machines, well, I'm not a big fan of AI created idols, but I'm not against using motion-capture, the way plave does, because it keeps the humans behind the idols safe, they can have a normal life, be who they are, date, spend time with families, or at least it is more normal to some degree... to sum it up: what the hell happened to K-pop fans and industry?
Am I the only one who thinks $100+ tickets are literally so affordable ? When you have other groups charging like $500+
You're right!! People forget that concerts are not a necessity!!
Fairss I guess it depends on how your like when you spend money. No way am I spending money for a concert ticket that costs over 500+ I'll spend that on something else tyvm 😊
Ppl waste thousands on Beyonce tickets 😂
0:21 anyone saying this lives under a rock. Babymonster is performing at the kspo dome after 1.1 years since debut and might I add they sold out in 8 minutes, magnetic was the #1 contender for SOTY against supernova. Wake up people
6: First of all, "looking pretty" and performing are not mutually exclusive. Idols like Yuna and Wonyoung are constantly scrutinized for their visuals-by fans and critics alike-so of course that aspect is part of their performance. But to reduce their entire stage presence to just "a calculated visual algorithm"? That’s unfair and honestly a lazy take.
These are idols who’ve trained for years to master vocals, dance, and stage presence. You think they hit every move, nail every note, and command a global audience by just standing there looking pretty? If they look effortless, it’s because they’re damn good at what they do. Maybe you’re mistaking professionalism and polish for "android-like" perfection.
And let’s not act like being "self-aware" on stage is a bad thing. They know what fans expect, they know what the industry demands, and they’re delivering it. That’s not a flaw-it’s part of why they’re dominating. So, yeah, maybe take a step back and appreciate the grind instead of nitpicking their perfection.
Вы не поняли претензию к ним, и доказали её.
"Они делают то, что от них ожидают фанаты" - в этом проблема. Они БОЯТСЯ выглядеть не идеально/реально (по мнению фанатов), и позволяют им и далее задирать планку.
@@sanyk-t6cNope, I understood the claim just fine; you’re the one spinning it into something it’s not. Let’s dissect your point: you’re blaming Yuna and Wonyoung for being too good at meeting fan expectations. Really? That’s like criticizing a chef for making their food taste exactly how the customers love it. The issue isn’t with them; it’s with the so-called "fans" who demand this level of perfection. Maybe redirect your frustration there.
You say they’re "afraid of not looking perfect." No, they’re not afraid-they’re professionals. They understand the industry they’re in: one built on visuals and talent. If they occasionally lean into their strengths (which, surprise, includes looking stunning), that’s a calculated choice, not fear. Perfectionism in their field is a sign of mastery, not weakness.
And let’s get one thing straight: they aren’t the ones raising the bar-you are. Fans and critics constantly nitpick every angle, every move, every expression, then turn around and blame the idols for keeping up with these absurd expectations. It’s hypocrisy at its finest.
So, no, the problem isn’t Yuna and Wonyoung being "too perfect." The problem is people like you refusing to acknowledge their hard work and boiling their artistry down to aesthetics just because they make it look easy. That’s not on them-that’s on you.
Kpop will never thrive if you still consider dating a scandal .
This channel is pretty sassy...AI voice but I think a clever human is behind the script. K pop Spy takes no prisoners
No one is reading all that just letting you know
1. At this point, I think people are just choosing sides based on who they like. A majority of responses and statements from both sides of the conflict have stable evidence or compelling parts. It really comes down to whether you believe what they say or not because we can throw the evidence in your face and people on both sides will still say “media play” or “they’re obviously lying”.
4. I would actually say 5th gen, this year specifically, has been really freaking good. I mean look at Kiss of Life, ILLIT, Baby Monster, TripleS, TWS. They’ve been flourishing this year.
6. This should’ve never been a main marketing tool. We already complain about this enough in western music.
2: "Meanwhile, ENHYPEN's fans acted like the world was ending, which is pretty on brand for a fandom that lost it's collective minds over female backup dancers."
YOU DID NAWT- 💀💀😭😭🤣🤣
9: THANK YOU AGAIN! 😂 This was BLOODY INCREDIBLE. Like, visually so captivating.
It's like a mix of Rain, Spell, or in general, the performance unit in THE BEST way. I feel like this is SO Minghao's aesthetic. It's one of my favourite solo songs out of the SEVENTEEN members.
When you have millions of people criticising your every single move, look, expression, smile, and body language, the self-awareness will never turn down a notch. Plus, yeah, putting Yuna or Wonyoung was a wrong example. These two deliver amazing performances idc what anyone says.
Y'all always want idols with real (conventionally pretty but acting 'ugly' while doing certain things) until you get them and then suddenly, they are unprofessional, not aware, a bit too loose, need some camera training, blah blah blah.
That's why i prefer gidle and BP from K-pop, and also XG , they are NATURAL.
Dang love the thumbnail
this might be irrelevant to everyone but its such an interesting coincidence to me that i just found out like 2-3 days ago that some people ship winter and beomgyu while some call them twins and now her dating rumour with jongwon comes out lol
7. I can see why people would say it's low budget, but honestly I think people enjoyed it regardless and there's definitely something different about a stripped down barebones concert that lets the girls' talents be the star of the show while also creating a nice, intimate environment with the audience.
Two ppl dating…… like is not a crime. Next
I don't understand why there should be like 1 artist on top, 2 or 3 below them and the rest somewhere in the shadow. There is enough space for everyone. Kpop is an industry, not a genre. Just like the western industry. There are Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd. If someone can point me out who is the biggest among these, okay, but otherwise, everyone is big in their own genres and concepts
Son los celos, siempre piensan que tienen que competir y no se dan cuenta, que hay espacio de sobra para todos.
the one that sells out stadiums is the biggest .
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv Many Kpop groups sell out stadiums
Those tickets price are amazing shit I’d have to pay damn near a thousand dollars for a ticket to a bts concert 😂
2:22 Did she really throw her laptop in the river??😮
Tenía que entregarla y se negó, nadie sabe que pasó ( pero si la hizo desaparecer y por éso se está retrasando el juicio).
CONGRATS ON 15K :)
Thanks! It's all thanks to you guys!
@@kpop-spySee you at 20K soon! 💪🏁🏃♀️💨
Generations don’t matter. Bts, blackpink and svt still going strong although in 3rd gen, stray kids debuting barely in 4th gen is out here still growing and competing with western artists, ateez also barely making it into 4th gen still growing
5:48 THABKK U FOR SAYING THISSSS like i always said there is no such thing as 5th gen when 4th gen idols haven’t even reached their full potential yet
Even veteran groups like svt need to wait for almost a decade to reach their goals 😭
9: OMG I JUST REALISED THAT I MADE THAT COMMENT TYSMMMMMMM ❤💕❤️💕❤️
Both fandoms this year and last year proved that such news will not slide easy.
I'll never understand the over amount of album version.
For the Jungwon scandel, do NOT use engenes for those types of people, we do not claim them !!
Sorry to say as an army I know certain sections of army who are extremely toxic and disgusting I know we always can't take accountability but you should call them out protect your idols or artist whatever from harresment and stupid dating scandal
No one knows a single song from best selling kpop albums these days (ofc there are few exceptions) like you don't have to make songs just put some photo cards and a big azz photo book those fans would throw money left and right they don't even stream title track to make it less obvious
With 49 Taylor Swift' Grammy i don't know any of her song.
And people like me, millions and millions in the world. Many people even have no idea, who she is. But also millions and millions of people know her and her songs and is listening them every day.
If you can't named song from best selling albums, that doesn't mean that other also.
Lol I think it's time for some YG talk, nobody is calling you out on dissing Babymonster and being so harsh on them. You find literally insult the girls and the company, saying they release trash music, but have you even reviewed each of their song in DRIP? No. Why? Allergic to compliment. It looks like dissing YG is in your DNA, and we don't talk enough about it. Their B sides were so good and you really didn't speak about it. But instead, talked about how Drip was such a bad comeback. Sure, the chorus is nowhere, the instrumental may be old, but compared to their history of title tracks, it's still very refreshing. Also, you basically insulted your, fav YG artist, G Dragon, by calling out that Drip was a bad comeback. Seriously? Praising Home Sweet Home? And then calling out on Drip like that? Its peak favouritism, and it needs to be called out. Insulting and harrassing BM and then saying, "I pity the girls, they're talented!" Just so that the fans won't attack you is such a manipulate thing of you. We need you to rate their other songs in their album too, not like "they're all trash" but actually give a proper review to them. I want to see how far your favouritism will run ❤. Lots of love 🎀 (from a hardcore YG 😘)
No one likes the YG crime organization.
she is the one who defend baby monster's member when people were hating on her
they only present the facts
STILL BAEMON HAS TRASH SONGS
PEOPLE WANT SONGS OVER TALENT IN DAILY LIFE
@@Enha1009-engenereal tho, i'd rather listen to lsrfm illit ive than sheesh like wth is that (i used to like bm tho)
Ain't no way you're gonna defend woke up in tokyo ☠️ sorry their songs are trash af. I almost gave drip a pass until the highnote came 😢 well at least it's better than clik clak tho.
What crazy is that jungwon doesn't drink or smoke. He is not dating.
When will fans respect idols privacy
I have been an Army since 2017 and I honestly say that since the pandemic, butter and dynamite have changed a lot. I am not a fan of BP. But this hatred among each other is not what I stand for
But the more I learn about this industry, the more disgusted I am. It's modern slavery. When you're treated so badly as a man.
I can hardly imagine how women feel. Hats off to BP! After BTS, I'm done with k-pop. I can't and don't want to support it anymore.
Ningún Grupo puede controlar a los fandoms, siempre hay un lado feo , pero mientras la mayoría no involucren a los idols y eviten unirse a los conflictos, podemos ganarle al lado tóxico .
@@christinelaur6340weird how your "treated as badly as a man" comment got 1 like but you're "I can't imagine how women feel" comment got more. Kinda proving how ppl don't really care when it's men and only care when it's women
@@Odin99687 what!?
Btw , who are the groups at 5th gen anyway? Why these generations count so fast ? 😅
Baemon, kiof, illit, xikers, riize, zb1, bnd, that's what i remember
@ oh wow… nvr heard almost all of them… only one i know here is illit… and thts only recently , bc of the drama 😂
SEVENTEEN MENTIONEDDDD
6. Agreed for wonyoung, disagreed for Yuna. Idt we can compare yuna's stage performance to wonyoung's tbh.
True
no disagree on wonyoung because i have never heard her sing live
That's the problem with people like you. You say you've never heard her sing live because you don't bother actually searching it up to see for yourselves. Wonyoung has improved SO MUCH-heck even IVE as a group has Improved so much in the vocal department + in their live performances. You'll hate and demand for proof when it's right in front of your eyes. But no, you instantly turn deaf and blind.
Hybe ggs in shambles, they had to bring back the queens GFriend to save the company
shambles? and yet they are in top 5 most streamed gg albums this year .
Learn to research proper information about G-friend. Why they are currently back before using them to hate on lesserafirm and illit. Ugly lesserafirm anti please
Did you delete your previous video? 😕 I saved it to watch it later but it’s not there anymore…
No, I just changed the title and thumbnail
@@kpop-spy alright thanks 😊
In my opinion kpop spy, rose's crib, rosiary and lemonkookie are some of the few unbiased true channels out here.
All of them have bias.
Nah the only one is kpop spy. I’ve seen the other three and they’re kinda questionable
@@stargazing2628true this one is a stay, atiny and army and more anything related to these group she/he will justify it
It's #Jungwon not Jongwon
duh chill
I think you somewhat contradict yourself between ur fifth gen argument and the idol calculation one. These groups need time to do the algorithm thing before they are able to just react and behave naturally. It’s like learning the fundamentals in sports and then freestyling once you have a solid base. Most of these groups don’t have the experience or self confidence built up via success and fan support to just be natural. And even the ones you mentioned as more raw took some time to achieve that. But also I agree there chosen were an odd choice to signal out.
Can i just ask where can i put the opinion?
Okay so KMCA dropped a statement about the whole ablume and new jeans drama and how they will try to boycott them something around that area
What's your take on this
No es un boicot, elllos no van a comprar la mercancía o negar que alguien la compre. Pero si las van a poner en una lista negra, o sea , que no van a revelar los números y éso las va a sacar de las listas, los rankigs, los premios relacionados a los números .
2: I read somewhere that it wasn't Winter, it was Jungwon's OWN MOTHER 💀😫🤣 But I know FOR SURE that this ain't true because Jungwon went on live to say that he is not dating. From what I heard, he was reading the comments in his live, and one fan asked in the comments: "Are you dating?" and too that, Jungwon replied briefly: "No, I am not dating. I don't smoke either."
So please guys, let's stop the speculations and accusations now because he's addressed publicly that HE IS NOT DATING‼️
I thought Jay was spotted with his mother not Jungwon🤔
@@BELIEVER78989Idk now 😂💤😴
1. Gosh, u speak facts that we cant digest so we'll just call u toxic🙄
girl am your new sub can i get a pin from you 🎉
I agree with wy☠️
4.💀 A shine-able group can shine EVEN with others shining around them.
Now kmc is trying to blacklist them
I am not on anyone side
But how is this even acceptable?
Unless new jeans have been proved of actual crimes or tampering
How is this even allowed
Groups who have done worse r thriving
Yet the new jeans girls r being treated so harshly
I don't Stan new jeans nor am a fan of their songs at all
But the way people are rooting for the downfall is scary
It is obvious they were gonna lose anyways
They r up against a multi billionaire compared
I believe it’s because of how much they succeed in such a short time. Same with how much ppl wanted to see fifty fifty fail. It’s just jealousy and pure hatred.
С ними обращаются ЗАСЛУЖЕННО. Если бы NJ заняли нейтральную позицию в конфликте, у них было бы всё отлично.
No one is reading all that just letting you know
NGL u speak facts lol
5th gen babymonster is literally competing with the most popular 4th gen ggs. Who tf said 5th gen has no potential? Have you seen their popularity, views, streams & subscribers? Their concerts & albums everything is sold out instantly & their global popularity is through the roof. Despite being a rookie group, they are probably the most talented, well-rounded & versatile idols in entire k-pop history. Kiss of life, meovv are doing very well too. Who tf said 5th gen have no potential??? Don't use the untalented & untrained hybe girl groups as standards to judge 5th gen.
Must you drag hybe gg
once baby monster fixes their bad music and improvement in dancing and stage presence then maybe
also their songs don’t go anywhere on the Korean charts no chance
@suzumi111 You're confusing bm with hybe's 5th gen gg again. Also Drip bypassed all other recent 5th gen comebacks in the charts...but nice try tho 😅
Views- ad, Streams- bp SEA fans streaming.. other than that which of their song went viral or is famous among public, answer NONE.. they are lot of talented idols out there, so sit down...