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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • Ed Davey believes he could be the leader of the opposition, suggests Andrew Marr.
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    The Liberal Democrat conference took place this week. The New Statesman's Rachel Cunliffe was there, and sat down with Liberal Democrat leader Ed Davey sat down with the New Statesman's Rachel Cunliffe to set out his party's ambitions to become the party of opposition.
    "It's about being a better opposition than the Conservatives" - Ed Davey
    Hannah Barnes is joined in the studio by Andrew Marr, New Statesman political editor, and Rachel Cunliffe, associate political editor.
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Комментарии • 43

  • @DanHeskett
    @DanHeskett День назад +37

    Always thought Marr would be a good Lib Dem leader. Even his collar is centre left.😂

  • @indefatigable8193
    @indefatigable8193 День назад +51

    Andrew Marr has found his home at the New Statesman. He’s becoming more a national treasure and less one of the many BBC journalists from the Blair/Brown/Cameron era. It’s a joy to watch him.

    • @the0nlytrueprophet942
      @the0nlytrueprophet942 День назад +2

      I'm glad to hear his opinion again. Great to hear his takes rather than interviewing and being neutral

    • @deanunio
      @deanunio День назад +1

      Easy to have his opinion when he’s as rich as he is

  • @thespiritphoenix3798
    @thespiritphoenix3798 День назад +18

    Andrew Marr is right about the influence and future of the Lib Dems. They have huge potential to either harry Labour or give the Conservatives an existential threat but not both. They also must struggle to become more than a party centred around a few key issues and rise above the stigma attached to them by their past failures particularly as part of the coalition government. These next few years will be interesting to see how much they flourish as the second party of opposition yet it's doubtful they'll achieve much.

    • @markwelch3564
      @markwelch3564 12 часов назад

      You'd assume taking on the Conservatives makes more sense. One of the strongest criticisms of the LibDems is the coalition period, and taking on the Conservatives would clearly show they aren't going there again

  • @bobtuiliga8691
    @bobtuiliga8691 День назад +5

    What Lib Dem policy would put them centre? Most things they are left of Labour

  • @RedJadeArt
    @RedJadeArt 17 часов назад +2

    Who gets to be in opposition is actually really important because it sets the tone of who is the real centre of British politics. The opposition gets to ask the questions and decide where to pick holes in the government.
    The Tories don’t really get to be an effective opposition right now because we’re not even 6 months in it’s hard to argue anything about the state of the country wasn’t something they did themselves over the last 14 years. On top of that, Sunak is just an interim leader who can’t make the argument that he really represents the conservative voters given that he’s stepping down soon anyway.
    I would have much rather had Lib Dem’s be the opposition because they could make some much more salient points about the country’s future direction rather than just be an insistence that we go backwards into the past.

  • @Balky311
    @Balky311 День назад +6

    LibDems plan to focus on the Tories (as high risk as it is), so assuming that’s the direction of travel: their bottom-up style of campaigning is very effective and if the Conservative-Reform vote split continues, it will benefit them. However, LibDem appeal in the affluent areas they can win is unsustainable simply because they are on the liberal centre-left. These areas will likely continue to be small c conservative.
    While they have a short term advantage because they are not the main parties, their appeal has the political resilience of a raft on stormy seas - ‘seas’ being the brutal electoral system. While the main parties are broad churches designed to appeal to various people (for better or worse), the LibDems are pretty narrow ideologically. They can maintain the young professionals’ support perhaps, but their parents?

    • @andrewwrench1959
      @andrewwrench1959 4 часа назад

      Affluent areas are no longer small c conservative, they are small l liberal. This is now the case in social terms, and was always the case in economic terms, being confused by Thatcher's adoption of liberal economic policy. This change is the result of demographics where those without a tertiary education are the bastions of conservatism. Not in all aspect, there is as much drug taking amongst those that didn't go to university as those that did, for example. The expansion of education has resulted in the predominance of the liberal wealthy over the conservative wealthy, e.g. Rupert Murdoch's children. The ever increasing age at which people vote conservative isn't anything to do with socialism, but the advance of liberalism. The distinction isn't between young professionals and their parents, it is between young professionals and their grandparents.

  • @davidcross7272
    @davidcross7272 День назад +2

    Andrew please please come back to your Sunday Morning Masterclass .

  • @peterlewis1443
    @peterlewis1443 3 часа назад

    "...a miasma of genteel irrelevance..." what a delightful description...

  • @DrDanWeaver
    @DrDanWeaver День назад +5

    Great analysis and a great show in general. More with Andrew please. More YT shorts for more penetration. Also give responsibility to SOMEONE in the production team to ensure eg Andrew's shirt isn't hanging out of his jacket giving a Compo from Last of the Summer Wine vibe throughout this vid. ❤

  • @circleseven5115
    @circleseven5115 День назад +1

    Having a large number of MPs gives a lot more influence as you get a lot more places on committees (including getting Chairman places). The LibDems can hold the Government’s feet to the fire over Social Care reform in particular far better than the Tories (who did little about it when in power themselves). Labour look like they will bottle it on Social Care and need holding to account. Current Health and Social Care committee Chair- Layla Moran.

  • @trashman1358
    @trashman1358 День назад +2

    Good analysis. Very interesting.

  • @Sweaty_Ken
    @Sweaty_Ken День назад +2

    oh please make it so... My dream is all the extreme right wing nutcases ousted into the margins, with Ed Davey as the sensible moderate voice. I have just realised that this is a pretty depressing dream, but wouldn't it be nice if the main political discourse was just calm technocrats trying their best?

  • @rolandrothwell4840
    @rolandrothwell4840 12 часов назад

    No. Tone and constructive criticism is a very big change. So many people argue that politics is too confrontational and shouty. That turns so many people off of our wonderful democracy. I believe the Liberal Democrats will be a serious force for change. Wait and see

  • @georgethompson453
    @georgethompson453 День назад +1

    So having gone through all this, are we going to get any growth?

  • @johnmorrissey7873
    @johnmorrissey7873 День назад

    How have they got away with that result the man who leads them was responsible for people committing suicide going to jail and ruining the lives of post office masters

    • @eughrologh
      @eughrologh День назад +1

      The Torys got more votes and more seats and are more responsible for not clearing that mess up the past 10 years or so?

  • @stevebbuk9557
    @stevebbuk9557 День назад

    It's all very well focussing on the NHS and social care, but where are the Adam Smith-Wealth of Nations wealth creation policies? Any fool can spend taxpayers' money.

  • @willalm830
    @willalm830 День назад

    Justice Clarence Thomas’ is our new PM, time to come good

  • @n28utd
    @n28utd День назад +1

    I'm sure some Gen Z marketing person has said trailers work at the beginning of videos. However, this is a 12 minute video FFS 😂 Drop it

  • @katyoconnor5052
    @katyoconnor5052 19 часов назад

    Andrew Marr is so interesting to listen to. I have to admit to listening to the news agents with Emily Matlis n she is just not up to his standard at all.

  • @petekadenz9465
    @petekadenz9465 14 часов назад +1

    Difficult to take them seriously if they don’t argue the case for joining the single market and customs union.

    • @Philsmahsmchjsb
      @Philsmahsmchjsb 14 часов назад

      Difficult to take them seriously in general. All parties other than Tory and Lab cannot be judged seriously as they will never be a majority government

  • @CaptCurmudgeon
    @CaptCurmudgeon 18 часов назад

    Not seen any footage of Ed Davey, his change in tone achieves nothing because he's incapable of landing the kind of punches that resonate across media and get coverage. As Andrew says, Sunak and Starmer are combative with eachother, this gets coverage. It's childish and pathetic at times, but so is society after twenty years of social media.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 17 часов назад

    Hilarious isn't it?

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 День назад

    Andrew Marr = Sound Bloke! 👍

  • @KevTheImpaler
    @KevTheImpaler 23 часа назад

    Vote Reform!

  • @user-s1o3nr532
    @user-s1o3nr532 19 часов назад

    Stopped and exited the video at 2 minutes. Why the annoying repetition?

  • @adrianaspalinky1986
    @adrianaspalinky1986 19 часов назад

    Andrew Marr is pure pap
    Sad, non entity

  • @davidclark1545
    @davidclark1545 19 часов назад

    Give the LibDems time, they will be back to only 9 MPs again soon.

  • @ericgillespie7799
    @ericgillespie7799 День назад +1

    Labour's spokesman, Mr Marr, marring rather more honest opponents than either of the neo-con led major parties

  • @joescott54
    @joescott54 День назад +1

    The DimPlebs, wetter & weaker than diluted water...

  • @KevTheImpaler
    @KevTheImpaler 23 часа назад

    @6:44 Lib-Dem values? What does the party stand for? What are the Lib-Dem values? What does the party stand for? How are they different from Labour's?

    • @RedJadeArt
      @RedJadeArt 17 часов назад

      Idk their manifesto had some pretty clear pledges about a commitment to social care for older and disabled people