The people are learning, and I am a settler person who can help amplify your voice. My deepest, most sincere and profound apologizes for the horrific tragedies done to you and your people. My gift to you is a sincere, open heart- a desire to be family- and ongoing action to help build a future of legitimacy and the most rightminded future for everyone.
Chief Oren Lyon communication skills can't be denied. The right use or exercise of knowledge; the choice of laudable ends, and of the best means to accomplish them. This is wisdom in act, effect, or practice. If wisdom is to be considered as a faculty of the mind, it is the faculty of discerning or judging what is most just, proper and useful, and if it is to be considered as an acquirement, it is the knowledge and use of what is best, most just, most proper, most conducive to prosperity or happiness. Wisdom in the first sense, or practical wisdom, is nearly synonymous with discretion. I differs somewhat from prudence, in this respect; prudence is the exercise of sound judgment in avoiding evils; wisdom is the exercise of sound judgment either in avoiding evils or attempting good. Prudence then is a species, of which wisdom is the genus. AN AMERICAN DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE BY NOAH WEBSTER LL. D
I have heard Indians called a number of ways, First Nations, Native Americans, but Indigenous Nations of the Western Hemisphere make much more sense and would include both the Northern and Southern Western Hemisphere. This man speaks truth!
Oren Lyons has one Seneca Parent and one Onondaga Parent. He is adopted into the Onondaga and has left his Seneca identity, although I am sure the Senecas cherish him as well. He has dedicated his life to teaching. Now retired, he travels the world to continue to teach environmental and sovereignty issues.
It has only been a few years since I first became aware of the 1493 Doctrine of Discovery. I was, and still am, shocked. Not just for how Indigenous people's of all lands have been exploited and abused, but how the idea of this Doctrine of Discovery has been used within the classroom and society to convince one group of people that they are superior to another. I wish there was an easy way to undo all the damage done over the last 500 plus years and start all over again today begining right now.
💜🌲🐬..... Thank You Maestro!!! Now I understand why I could not complete my bachelor's degree here in the U.S.... I have the student loans to prove it!!! Wow... May the Great Spirits be with All Peoples around the world... Please pardon my American Language ... It's my 4th language. ☝ 🌎... 🌴🌳🌵🌲🐺🐢🐍🐋🐳🐳🐳🐳🐳🙏🐎🙏
I wish I had words or powers to undo all that has been done to the Indigenous of Turtle Island - I am an elder white woman and it has grieved me for 50= years.
It will happen, sister. I can guarantee it. Jesus said in Revelation that He is coming to destroy those who destroy the earth. They really think God doesn’t care about His creation. They are willfully ignorant. And they will be judged for their crimes. Their selfish greed and avarice, their oppression and murder will be their undoing. They have no ides what they are in for. Again in Revelation God says He will save His people. They won’t be judged with the wicked. But just as Jesus said , like in the days of Noah, after the righteous are taken up, the judgements will begin. He will turn the rivers to blood, The sun will get so hot it will scorch men and dry up water. There will be earthquakes and tidal waves. And that’s only the beginning. It’s going to be hell on earth for them and all the cities will fall. This is their reward for all the blood shed on the earth. This is what Jesus said would happen- there will be judgement without mercy on those who have shown no mercy. Not my words. But they are the truth. Then He will restore the earth and heal the waters and the people of God will have 1000 years of peace before the final judgement of the wicked. Just trust Him, He will bring it to pass. And the time is close. And yes, indeed this is Turtle island, something else they don’t know. And God never wanted it destroyed. But they wouldnt listen. When Sitting Bull had his vision before the battle of the Little Big Horn , he said God showed him soldiers falling into the camp. He told Sitting Bull that He gave these to them because they have no ears. So, they have not listened to God. He was telling them in many ways to stop what they were doing. He is still speaking and they are still not listening.
I would like feedback from the Haudenosauneee community, as I internally struggle with these forced structures myself , This touches upon the roots of The deep systemic perception differences between "European body politics" and "Indigenous political bodys and there peoples ways of "Seeing". I was told years ago that Haudenosaunee nation's "laws" "Are "seen" as "internally" recognized "Responsibility's" by members of the nation. "but" the systemic European body politic's structural system operates from a "Laws" are "seen" as being "externally" granted "Rights" when the two political "Bodys" come together this is sometimes called when the canoe and the ship interact ,, a forced "polarized" Bridging "translation" occurs , we are still in many ways clinging to aspects of our structures of our past monarchy's , and I also beleave the institutionalized body's of religion have there control code woven into the foundations of the Deep state, Steve Newcomb has certainly reflected upon the roots these many arcane layers , It"s "us" Europeans that need to do an internal review of roots under our "foundation stones" our own "source code" when we look at the internal conflict issues we see happening internally in 2021 we have only ourselves to blame for our failure to evolve our rigid roots we snap like a piece of brittle glass .. We need to look into on the roots of "Rights" . and ask the question what if the ship no longer represents the essence roots of true American values and what are source's of those values ? The struggle between the two perceptions or ways of seeing seem to be at the core of the colonization challenge and this profoundly impacts indigenous expression of ones personhood .. it deeply impacts our internal sense of personhood and ethical values as well ..
Chief Lyons right now we have to be prepared for the flood that is coming then his kennel for thousands of years comes every 200 years I know you spoke on climate change I haven't viewed that talk but as we speak the waters are rising again the native people will be wiped out along with everything else if we prepare of the people we can can rise above the waters and become a nation once again if you have any insight on this please share looking for answers needs a reply
Sawyosdyndee: Just like with every other person on this planet, except for the Black Nation and the African/Australian Aboriginies, it is the Father of Color, the Sun, who makes our skin change color. This fact is in true history books, not those you read in grade school. Indigenous north americans painted their skin against getting sun-burnt and insect repellant. If someone is not constantly exposed to the Sun, you will not change color. Oren is Seneca/Onondaga. Peace, Nitahttho'kaa
The Pope declared these lands ‘empty’ because no Christians. (Believers in the Messiah were not called Christians until they were given that name in Antioch. Jesus never said they were Christians. He called them His sheep, His children, brethren. Everyone that is a believer in the Great Father is one of His sheep. Apostle Paul and the others never referred to believers as Christians. He called them saints and faithful, or brethren. ‘Christian ‘ was a term used by society to designate the believers, which also makes it fit into the social structure. Constantine may have been responsible for using that term in 300AD when he legitimized the church in Roman society). Were there believers in the Great Father in these lands?? Absolutely. Just as much as Noah , Enoch, Abraham and King David , Chief Joseph, the Cherokee, the Iroquois Tecumseh, and millions of others believed the same way. It is the same spirituality . The Pope is antichrist personified because he is anti - believer unless they submit to the socially mixed form and liturgy of the church. Today the Catholic Church maintains a doctrine that there is no salvation outside the “church”. This is a false teaching . (Jesus said, ye believe in the Father, believe also in Me. And , he that lives and believes in Me shall never die. He is Yahowawa and Yahhawashi). Paul said , such are false apostles, deceitful workers transforming themselves into the apostles of Messiah. The Pope set these lands up for exploitation, period. He facilitated social dominance in the Western Hemisphere and its capitalistic pursuits. And denounced and denigrated anyone who did not agree.
These are in the Calls to Action - Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada. 94 Recommendations. 45.1 - Repudiate concepts used to justify European sovereignty over Indigenous lands and peoples such as the Doctrine of Discovery and terra nullius. Perhaps that should ackowledge genocide policies or a arm for genocide. ....
Well, the dominant doctrine (Science after Christianity) is still explaining the First Peoples from where they originated and how they crossed the Bering Straight and on and on. I am from Switzerland I do anthropology studies, my husband is Oji-Cree (Saulteaux) and it is real fight to make them admit that Peoples know about their Histories. In fact, they do not accept, because themselves have forgotten everything from their tribal past. I am "white" and I am really ashamed about this. When I will graduate I promise will try to impose Vine Deloria, Oren Lyons and Russel Means and your thinkers to these scholar-slaves.
Hello I was just feeling your reply this is looking for answers I'm glad to see that we have young people that are interested in this I believe in the integration of all of the disintegration of different peoples that we have been wire down to our heritage so white is not a color and black is not a color but both of them make all colors I live in San Diego California and California used to be called an island called Califia it was a paradise after we have this next flood I think it will come back I'll see you there looking for answers
Of course being non Christians,would have been meaningless if we would have had giant powerful armies at our disposal,what it boils down to is who has the strongest army!
WOW, sounds to me you have a personal problem with these strong people - I am Potawatomi and Lanape, and I live on Turtle Island (canada). I can immediately distinguish this man as being one of my relations, from a different Nation of True Human beings. I know you wrote this 2yrs ago, bUT! buddy come on - if yur a Nish yourself, quit hiding behind yur alias and show yur tru colors bud! Say what you have to but take off yur mask and show yurself - that is the way of the Indigenous Peoples
Colombus never came to mainland America, he landed in what is now Haiti!! Now say what the Indians looked like when he landed,the Spanish word Negro!!!
Truth...Ayiti is paleo hebrew name. Same language of the bible Israelites language all the Americas he kidnap and being sold to Europe (northern African) and Africa were call NEGROS even til now.
@@BishezicespiceFAN i am trying to communicate with americans. i am rom south africa, they call us coloured but are khoi descendant. we are having a court case claimung back our rights at the cape town high court on the 24 october 2019. we would like to help you all also.
They didnt even spare the native christians called Syrian Christians 52 AD of kerala India all because of the gold in our churches and the property that the native church owned, the apology served by pope is only a lip service.
Oren Lyons will tell you he is not a chief, He is the Faithkeeper of the Haudenosuanee..He is preparing to request that Ppe Francis will denounce the doctrine of discovery...
Oren, "that's who you are?" You say. Go deeper into that, who you are. And "a People," is a collective word. That includes all the tribes. Words and descriptions, and titles are a form of separation. Technically, "The Earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof." The Lord, or Shiva or Great Spirit. Now I'm using words to tell you Lord doesn't necessarily mean Christian. Go find out "who you are. " Your True Nature. If you see yourself as a body having a spirit, you suffer. If you see yourself AS SPIRITUAL BEING, having a Human experience, you won't suffer. Everyone needs to find out who "they really are. " Genesis: "Out of the Void, came Manifestation. " To carry this further, like being reborn of Spirit, The Great Spirit IS YOU!! Great Spirit appearing "AS" Oren Lyons. Do you like the separation words Oren Lyons AND Great Spirit? You don't say "I Am God." But God (Or Great Spirit IS Us). But that sounds plural. I'm saying Us as being All Inclusive. We ARE ONE. ALREADY! ALL IS ONE. Land ownership always changes hands in Relativity. Even among the rich. "Who we really ARE," NEVER CHANGES HANDS. 😊❤🙏
The earliest populations in the Americas, before roughly 10,000 years ago, are known as Paleo-Indians.wikepada coutesey of America info 😀 so basically columbus discovered nothing only in a religious view that is not relevant in these times which is basically stolen land due to religious views
Thank you Professor Lyons
Thank you for this very informative and educational video. I will share this.
Mitakuye Oyasin.
The people are learning, and I am a settler person who can help amplify your voice. My deepest, most sincere and profound apologizes for the horrific tragedies done to you and your people. My gift to you is a sincere, open heart- a desire to be family- and ongoing action to help build a future of legitimacy and the most rightminded future for everyone.
This is awesome information for all indigenous people around the world! Great work
Tack Oren Lyons från någon som bor i Sverige ❤️
Chief Oren Lyon communication skills can't be denied.
The right use or exercise of knowledge; the choice of laudable ends, and of the best means to accomplish them. This is wisdom in act, effect, or practice. If wisdom is to be considered as a faculty of the mind, it is the faculty of discerning or judging what is most just, proper and useful, and if it is to be considered as an acquirement, it is the knowledge and use of what is best, most just, most proper, most conducive to prosperity or happiness. Wisdom in the first sense, or practical wisdom, is nearly synonymous with discretion. I differs somewhat from prudence, in this respect; prudence is the exercise of sound judgment in avoiding evils; wisdom is the exercise of sound judgment either in avoiding evils or attempting good. Prudence then is a species, of which wisdom is the genus.
AN AMERICAN DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE BY NOAH WEBSTER LL. D
He is not a chief. He is a faithkeeper.
I have heard Indians called a number of ways, First Nations, Native Americans, but Indigenous Nations of the Western Hemisphere make much more sense and would include both the Northern and Southern Western Hemisphere. This man speaks truth!
Oren Lyons has one Seneca Parent and one Onondaga Parent. He is adopted into the Onondaga and has left his Seneca identity, although I am sure the Senecas cherish him as well. He has dedicated his life to teaching. Now retired, he travels the world to continue to teach environmental and sovereignty issues.
It has only been a few years since I first became aware of the 1493 Doctrine of Discovery. I was, and still am, shocked. Not just for how Indigenous people's of all lands have been exploited and abused, but how the idea of this Doctrine of Discovery has been used within the classroom and society to convince one group of people that they are superior to another. I wish there was an easy way to undo all the damage done over the last 500 plus years and start all over again today begining right now.
💜🌲🐬..... Thank You Maestro!!! Now I understand why I could not complete my bachelor's degree here in the U.S.... I have the student loans to prove it!!! Wow... May the Great Spirits be with All Peoples around the world... Please pardon my American Language ... It's my 4th language. ☝ 🌎... 🌴🌳🌵🌲🐺🐢🐍🐋🐳🐳🐳🐳🐳🙏🐎🙏
I never heard this before, thank you!
I wish I had words or powers to undo all that has been done to the Indigenous of Turtle Island - I am an elder white woman and it has grieved me for 50= years.
It will happen, sister. I can guarantee it. Jesus said in Revelation that He is coming to destroy those who destroy the earth. They really think God doesn’t care about His creation. They are willfully ignorant. And they will be judged for their crimes. Their selfish greed and avarice, their oppression and murder will be their undoing. They have no ides what they are in for. Again in Revelation God says He will save His people. They won’t be judged with the wicked. But just as Jesus said , like in the days of Noah, after the righteous are taken up, the judgements will begin. He will turn the rivers to blood, The sun will get so hot it will scorch men and dry up water. There will be earthquakes and tidal waves. And that’s only the beginning.
It’s going to be hell on earth for them and all the cities will fall. This is their reward for all the blood shed on the earth.
This is what Jesus said would happen- there will be judgement without mercy on those who have shown no mercy.
Not my words. But they are the truth.
Then He will restore the earth and heal the waters and the people of God will have 1000 years of peace before the final judgement of the wicked.
Just trust Him, He will bring it to pass. And the time is close.
And yes, indeed this is Turtle island, something else they don’t know. And God never wanted it destroyed.
But they wouldnt listen. When Sitting Bull had his vision before the battle of the Little Big Horn , he said God showed him soldiers falling into the camp. He told Sitting Bull that He gave these to them because they have no ears. So, they have not listened to God. He was telling them in many ways to stop what they were doing. He is still speaking and they are still not listening.
Love to help spread this
Amazing man
Peace, Equity, Unity.
What if we ALL.. We ALL.. shared this .. on facebook? Hey.. hit "Share".. THEN click on Facebook... NOT SO HARD TO SHARE THE TRUTH!
I would like feedback from the Haudenosauneee community, as I internally struggle with these forced structures myself , This touches upon the roots of The deep systemic perception differences between "European body politics" and "Indigenous political bodys and there peoples ways of "Seeing". I was told years ago that Haudenosaunee nation's "laws" "Are "seen" as "internally" recognized "Responsibility's" by members of the nation. "but" the systemic European body politic's structural system operates from a "Laws" are "seen" as being "externally" granted "Rights" when the two political "Bodys" come together this is sometimes called when the canoe and the ship interact ,, a forced "polarized" Bridging "translation" occurs , we are still in many ways clinging to aspects of our structures of our past monarchy's , and I also beleave the institutionalized body's of religion have there control code woven into the foundations of the Deep state, Steve Newcomb has certainly reflected upon the roots these many arcane layers , It"s "us" Europeans that need to do an internal review of roots under our "foundation stones" our own "source code" when we look at the internal conflict issues we see happening internally in 2021 we have only ourselves to blame for our failure to evolve our rigid roots we snap like a piece of brittle glass .. We need to look into on the roots of "Rights" . and ask the question what if the ship no longer represents the essence roots of true American values and what are source's of those values ? The struggle between the two perceptions or ways of seeing seem to be at the core of the colonization challenge and this profoundly impacts indigenous expression of ones personhood .. it deeply impacts our internal sense of personhood and ethical values as well ..
Well, to begin with, Oren Lyons is not a chief. He is a faithkeeper.
Chief Lyons right now we have to be prepared for the flood that is coming then his kennel for thousands of years comes every 200 years I know you spoke on climate change I haven't viewed that talk but as we speak the waters are rising again the native people will be wiped out along with everything else if we prepare of the people we can can rise above the waters and become a nation once again if you have any insight on this please share looking for answers needs a reply
We will prevail, Indigenous peoples of the world - the world of Indgienous peoples.
I'm watching Fr my camper home in Clanton Alabama with my 2 dogs
Sawyosdyndee: Just like with every other person on this planet, except for the Black Nation and the African/Australian Aboriginies, it is the Father of Color, the Sun, who makes our skin change color. This fact is in true history books, not those you read in grade school. Indigenous north americans painted their skin against getting sun-burnt and insect repellant. If someone is not constantly exposed to the Sun, you will not change color. Oren is Seneca/Onondaga. Peace, Nitahttho'kaa
so there are no "light" skinned 1st nations peepl? just curious please enlighten. wut "rez" is the one you are talking of?
my name us Jeffrey. Big Brother Jeffrey
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The Onkwehonwe,could make our own declarations and Laws and lf we had the armys to back them up,they would be the Laws.
Not Indigenous People but rather our original name's as Onkwéhon:we.
The Pope declared these lands ‘empty’ because no Christians.
(Believers in the Messiah were not called Christians until they were given that name in Antioch.
Jesus never said they were Christians. He called them His sheep, His children, brethren.
Everyone that is a believer in the Great Father is one of His sheep. Apostle Paul and the others never referred to believers as Christians. He called them saints and faithful, or brethren. ‘Christian ‘ was a term used by society to designate the believers, which also makes it fit into the social structure. Constantine may have been responsible for using that term in 300AD when he legitimized the church in Roman society).
Were there believers in the Great Father in these lands??
Absolutely. Just as much as Noah , Enoch, Abraham and King David , Chief Joseph, the Cherokee, the Iroquois Tecumseh, and millions of others believed the same way. It is the same spirituality . The Pope is antichrist personified because he is anti - believer unless they submit to the socially mixed form and liturgy of the church. Today the Catholic Church maintains a doctrine that there is no salvation outside the “church”. This is a false teaching . (Jesus said, ye believe in the Father, believe also in Me. And , he that lives and believes in Me shall never die. He is Yahowawa and Yahhawashi).
Paul said , such are false apostles, deceitful workers transforming themselves into the apostles of Messiah.
The Pope set these lands up for exploitation, period. He facilitated social dominance in the Western Hemisphere and its capitalistic pursuits. And denounced and denigrated anyone who did not agree.
These are in the Calls to Action - Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada.
94 Recommendations. 45.1 - Repudiate concepts used to justify European sovereignty over Indigenous lands and peoples such as the Doctrine of Discovery and terra nullius.
Perhaps that should ackowledge genocide policies or a arm for genocide.
....
Well, the dominant doctrine (Science after Christianity) is still explaining the First Peoples from where they originated and how they crossed the Bering Straight and on and on. I am from Switzerland I do anthropology studies, my husband is Oji-Cree (Saulteaux) and it is real fight to make them admit that Peoples know about their Histories. In fact, they do not accept, because themselves have forgotten everything from their tribal past. I am "white" and I am really ashamed about this. When I will graduate I promise will try to impose Vine Deloria, Oren Lyons and Russel Means and your thinkers to these scholar-slaves.
Hello I was just feeling your reply this is looking for answers I'm glad to see that we have young people that are interested in this I believe in the integration of all of the disintegration of different peoples that we have been wire down to our heritage so white is not a color and black is not a color but both of them make all colors I live in San Diego California and California used to be called an island called Califia it was a paradise after we have this next flood I think it will come back I'll see you there looking for answers
iah'on'weskwani!!!!!!!
Of course being non Christians,would have been meaningless if we would have had giant powerful armies at our disposal,what it boils down to is who has the strongest army!
???? So what's the truth. Oren and others are trying to share the doctrine of discovery with the general public.
Chief Lyons starts out with that joke...Indigenous peoples still have a sense of humour after all the bullshit they have to put up with.
Doctrine of Discovery doesn't exist where there are Treaties.
where's that?
😂😂😂 Name one "treaty" that wasn't broken.
By the US government.
We're waiting to hear.
WOW, sounds to me you have a personal problem with these strong people - I am Potawatomi and Lanape, and I live on Turtle Island (canada). I can immediately distinguish this man as being one of my relations, from a different Nation of True Human beings. I know you wrote this 2yrs ago, bUT! buddy come on - if yur a Nish yourself, quit hiding behind yur alias and show yur tru colors bud! Say what you have to but take off yur mask and show yurself - that is the way of the Indigenous Peoples
Trump and his oil barrons will never give anything back
Colombus never came to mainland America, he landed in what is now Haiti!! Now say what the Indians looked like when he landed,the Spanish word Negro!!!
Truth...Ayiti is paleo hebrew name. Same language of the bible Israelites language all the Americas he kidnap and being sold to Europe (northern African) and Africa were call NEGROS even til now.
@@BishezicespiceFAN i am trying to communicate with americans. i am rom south africa, they call us coloured but are khoi descendant. we are having a court case claimung back our rights at the cape town high court on the 24 october 2019. we would like to help you all also.
@@sabinaclarisse2369 ok great yea this colored genocide is big business for christianity
They didnt even spare the native christians called Syrian Christians 52 AD of kerala India all because of the gold in our churches and the property that the native church owned, the apology served by pope is only a lip service.
Oren Lyons will tell you he is not a chief, He is the Faithkeeper of the Haudenosuanee..He is preparing to request that Ppe Francis will denounce the doctrine of discovery...
First Americans sounds alot better. It includes all the Americas.
Oren, "that's who you are?" You say. Go deeper into that, who you are. And "a People," is a collective word. That includes all the tribes. Words and descriptions, and titles are a form of separation.
Technically, "The Earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof." The Lord, or Shiva or Great Spirit. Now I'm using words to tell you Lord doesn't necessarily mean Christian.
Go find out "who you are. " Your True Nature. If you see yourself as a body having a spirit, you suffer. If you see yourself AS SPIRITUAL BEING, having a Human experience, you won't suffer. Everyone needs to find out who "they really are. "
Genesis: "Out of the Void, came Manifestation. "
To carry this further, like being reborn of Spirit, The Great Spirit IS YOU!! Great Spirit appearing "AS" Oren Lyons. Do you like the separation words Oren Lyons AND Great Spirit? You don't say "I Am God." But God (Or Great Spirit IS Us). But that sounds plural. I'm saying Us as being All Inclusive. We ARE ONE. ALREADY! ALL IS ONE.
Land ownership always changes hands in Relativity. Even among the rich. "Who we really ARE," NEVER CHANGES HANDS. 😊❤🙏
The earliest populations in the Americas, before roughly 10,000 years ago, are known as Paleo-Indians.wikepada coutesey of America info 😀 so basically columbus discovered nothing only in a religious view that is not relevant in these times which is basically stolen land due to religious views
Lol people really listening to this stuff
Cruel statement of the pope like God wouldn't exist among you kind not ok
Oren Lyons is not a chief. He is a faithkeeper.