The nationalists under Chiang are trying to build public support. One of the reasons this and other battles with the japanese get so much international attention is the amount of foreigners observing and reporting these events. It works, too. For the greater US population Chiang and the nationalists are the legitimate chinese government. Not the other warlords, the other cliques the communists up in the mountains, the japanese and their puppet regimes. For the nationalists it pays off in international recognition and support.
@Kong Jun Jie That's pretty well known. The japanese troops and officers just start brutalizing towns seemingly spontaneously in front of correspondents and observers.
I saw many people saying stupid things in the comments, even though they didn't search for the truth. I must make it clear. 1, yes, this movie is about KMT's army fighting bravely in WW2, it isn't about CCP, please shut. 2, yes, this movie is made in mainland China, supported by official CCP government. 3, yes, although CCP and KMT are opponents, and had civil wars, they are on the same stand in WW2, and both fought bravely in the war. China, in total, has the second most victims in WW2, only slightly after USSR, way much more than any country else. The passion for the Chinese civilization is shared between CCP and KMT. 4, I saw many people say this movie isn't allowed in mainland China because it speaks highly of KMT, that is totally bullsh!t !! It's made in china, and released in China. It's even one of the highest grossing movies in China. So guys, check before you comment
the editing and camera move is awesome and there is an actual chain of command. you don't often see that in war movie these days and you even see soldiers carrying ammo boxes
KMT Army's elite unit was equipped with Germany equipments and trained by german advisors before WW2...that is why they are wearing German helmet and using german style weapons...
1937 Shanghai. In fact Soviet's Chuikov's experience in Changsha China was then applied in 1942 Battle of Stalingrad. These were few of the most brutal battles in history. Changsha was bombed to smithereens, 4 times.
I’m from Changsha, the city now under sight is basically all newly-built.Due to the horrendous havoc wreaked by the Japaneses during wwII, there is now little traces of the past that could be found about this ancient city of at least 2000 years of history.
for historical information: The 88th Elite infantry division was originally a part of the German-trained elite force of the Nationalist Chinese army. By the point of the battle for the Sihang Warehouse, this force was depleted severely, most of its ranks had been replaced by relatively untrained men, oftentimes conscripts. The scenes shown are entirely overblown. The Japanese did not advance in such huge waves, for example, and the events displayed in this video have taken place over much longer timespans. That aside, to my knowledge there was a single suicide bomb attack by the Chinese. If I recall correctly, done from the roof of the warehouse, but I might be mistaken on the last detail. Another thing to note is, that the Japanese were originally trying to use direct-fire artillery to destroy one of the warehouse walls, but failed. Among the reasons were, that they had to be careful to not hit the international quarters of Shanghai. Note: these guys were NOT communists! Some of them have previously fought the communists!
@@TheDunestyler Actually, no. Father of Nations Sun Yatsen proclaimed the three main ideas of the revolution - nationalism, democracy and welfare (socialism). And later, Chin Kai-shek spoke favorably about the Third Reich and the USSR, he said that these countries implemented Sun Yatsen's ideas in practice.
@@radziwill7193 that might be, but i have my doubts, that he would approve of, what both nations did... Its one thing to have good intended ideals within your ideology, but its worth little if the regime in power corrupts, perverts and undermines it for their own goals, increase of power and questionable morals... But yes, i know... Evry sytem falls victim to the humans in charge... Just saying, he probably didn't approve of the regimes, but more about the systems in an more theoretical sense, pointing out a few good things about them, like the sense of togetherness that both indoctrinated their people with...
Chinese war movie tend to portrait the Chinese as super soldiers and the Japanese as complete idiots... This Is the movie that breaks the mold and actually give a proper portrait of the brutality of the war
@@tomorin233 We call those dramas that depict Chinese soldiers as super soldiers and Japanese as fools (Anti Japanese God dramas (or a lump of dog shit)). Who is serious to see that.--我们把那些将中国士兵描绘成超级战士的，日本人描绘成傻子的剧，称作（抗日神剧（一坨狗屎）），正经人谁看那玩意。
@@tomorin233We call those dramas that depict Chinese soldiers as super soldiers and Japanese as fools (Anti Japanese God dramas (or a lump of dog shit)). Who is serious to see that.--我们把那些将中国士兵描绘成超级战士的，日本人描绘成傻子的剧，称作（抗日神剧（一坨狗屎）），正经人谁看那玩意。
The eight hundred were as hard as coffin nails. They are not inferior to those who fought in the Brest Fortress, Leningrad and Stalingrad, that's for sure. Real heroes.
Men who literally gave everything when there was nothing left to fight with, no matter that your political views you have to acknowledge their sheer devotion to their cause.
I also acknowledged that this is indeed a video, no matter what my own political views are. I'm sitting in a chair (despite any political views, I have to acknowledge it). Let me tell you, I don't know your personal political leanings, but you have to admit, sandwiches are a type of food. Looks like there are a lot of defectors who weren't engaging in sheer devotion.
lol oh boy, then your mind is going to be blown if you read about American Japanese War over Pacific. You gonna love the Japanese, their dedication and morale.
@@emceha "dedication“? ”morale“? It's a joke! Japenese soldiers were told that the emperoe is god , they must die for him in any case. But the emperor is a fake god, he pressed “人間宣言”after japan surrended, said he is a human not god . What a joke! A real breave warriors must know what does he sacrifice for, not to be cheated. Thst‘s why japan was defeated by the US, and chinese soldiers chase the US force from Yalu river to N38°.
@@emceha I’m ex British Army mate, soldier to soldier you have to admit the efforts even if they’re the enemy. Respect those who have the balls to fight you.
British might be on the sea, Afghans on the mountains, Vietnamese in the jungle, Finnish in the snowy forest, Koreans on the roof but Kuomintang definitely has the middle floors of that building.
I shouldn’t be having a giggle with your comment and war is so devastatingly destructive, but this is funny 😀. Sorry in advance if I offend any people I don’t mean to make light of this matter.
this was one of the most inspiring last stands i've ever seen! it was hard not to burst out in tears... they are way up there for me with the soviets in stalingrad, the germans in berlin, australians in tobruk, americans in pearl harbour and japanese on iwo jima... in the face of utter carnage and annihalation, they gave their last... some for their nation... some for their people... but all of them for their comrades... i am glad youtube recommended this to me.
I guess if you "like this" look at the Croatians' last stand in the Battle of Vukovar in 1991, a lot of similarities with all those battles you listed, Vukovar is known as the Croatian Alamo.
Everytime i see this movie, i still cant bealive that modern day china (which is communist China), would actually make a movie about their enemy (in this case, nationalist China), and actually make the nationalist very heroic
The division u saw in the movie fought themselves to near extinction. By the end of the war they became one of the weakest divisions because they fought the most brutal of battles during the 8 years of the war
@@jotarothedixieboo3435 This force perished in the Chinese Civil War in 1947. Under the leadership of Deputy Commander Chen Mingren, the 88th Division participated in the counterattack in western Yunnan and the Chinese Expeditionary Force's second entry into Burma, and severely damaged the Japanese army. In early 1945, it was reorganized into the 71st Army. The 71st Army was transferred to the northeast ， When the 88th Division arrived at the Songhua River battle, it was completely wiped out by commie army
@@slavish_superiority when i saw pictures of the 88th in burma, they were clothed just like ur typical regional division. Did all their original members from 1937 all perish or did they just ditched or lost all their equipment through years of fighting?
Looking online, i can only find accounts of one guy Chen Shusheng, performing a suicide attack, nothing about other men doing it or the Japanese using steel shields, but English sources are few and far between it seems
In the movie the grenades bounced off, were knocked away by the shields, or exploded on the shields with no effect (the shields were said to be too thick and too sturdy)
Spectating battles was a very common occurrence especially pre-20th Century, military observers from other countries would often travel on campaign with armies and document how they fought and how battles played out, not to mention any civilians in the area as most of the time battles took place in populated rural areas and these were long before the era of indiscriminate weapons and tactics so they were usually in little danger.
One thing we can all agree on is that war is terrible, and should be avoided at all costs. There are no true winners in a war, everyone in the battlefield suffers.
Check out the attack against Napoleon in the TV show 'Sharpe' where row upon row of French soldiers just kept on getting mowed down by cannon fire until almost no one was left; from around 26 thousand killed.
Even though their battle was legendary and the men were very very brave, in reality the Chinese only suffered about 10 dead and 30 wounded. In this film I can see at least 40 to 50 die possibly 100. In reality they did much better killing about 230 Japanese and wounding hundreds more while suffering just 10 dead. Thats a k/d ratio to remember. Almost all of them lived.
most of the men were lost in the battle of shanghai, only having 521 men left in the warehouse when the defense started compared to the original 800. after they retreated, only >300 made it out.
@@AnkaraMessi-p8g most of the rest were captured and not killed in action. The actual killed in action number is about 10 to 13 during the warehouse siege. And the weren't 521, they were about 455.
I like this battle scene. No over the top heroics. They don't die when they get shot, most of the time. Screams are heard and so are the cracks of the bullets impacting. So many bombs going of, but I wish there was more dismemberment to hit the nail on the head. I can go on and on. I dont know how accurate this movie is when compared to what actually happened. But this is entertaining
This scene gives the impression, that the casualties of the NRA were extremly high, when in fact the chinese started the battle with 452 men and in the end 376 of them retreated to the foreign quarter.
This scene is what the 3rd day should’ve looked like, there was inaccuracies with the chronology of events. Day 3 should’ve had a battle after the flag scene and the entire day 4 should be the Chinese withstanding heavy artillery spam from the japanese
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- the evil CCP will not even exist to this day but knowing china ang human nature it too will become what the CCP is today however retaining Chinas real culture intact
@@tinienteabanil2922 Chiang was the very same thing the CCP is known as in the West, an authoritarian who killed anyone he perceived as his enemy. He started killing the communists and basically anyone else who would be a challenge to his power, even before the Japanese invaded. There's a reason why the US at some point basically stopped any real significant support towards him during the civil war on the mainland. He was corrupt and his army completely ineffective, even with good American equipment.
They existed fr.Because Goodyear is an American company (1898) and that time a part of Sanghai was an international territory.And we all know blimp existed back then.And Goodyear is famous for blimps.
@@abbabubba while this might be correct,it feels very odd and i haven't heard of adds on blimps like it's common today back then. it just feels off... noticed immediatly and was confused af
“Bastards! Who told you to use cannons?!” They actually hoped it wouldn’t stir any trouble with the international settlements a few hundred away, but since it evidently did, they immediately had to stop and stick with infantry weapons…
We knew it all along in Asia, China during the war was hardly the "sick man of Asia", they gave the Japanese a good hiding throughout the war and probably prevented major reinforcement to the Pacific Island.
@@boriserbe6688 The prep time the imperial forces have varies between the islands. As the US fleets move closer to the home islands, they start to run into islands that have good supplies and cannons behind steel doors and other nonsense. That's certainly something they do. They start trying to skip islands they will have no use of or have too much defences. But some islands they just got to take and use as staging areas. And there are people who argue for a kind of naval blockade of Japan with more firebombing over their cities. Plus those who see the results of the strategic bombing they're already doing and how little it's done to japanese morale.
Even if this is a film, it's truly amazing to make me emotional, this is another movie that almost made me cry. Historically speaking, if I was there in person, I would've cried like I was in hell.
The movie is artful in some details, but basically true. Think back to last year when I saw the movie in the cinema, there were a lot of sobbing in the cinema. No one left the cinema without red eyes
They blurred out the Nationalist flag using partial shots and the only time it is seen fully in the movie is the black and white shot of it falling down on the roof scene.
That's because of the focus of the movie wasn't about the ROC or PRC. It was about China itself. Notice how there wasn't any PRC flags, or even just any communists icons/symbols/flags in the entire movie either. There were certainly plenty of communist agents in Shanghai at the time, and a side plot could have been done about them, but none was. Edit: Please read the other comment's I've made in this comment chain before asking more questions/arguing more discussion points. Thank you.
@@AvalancheZ250 Yes but the flag (in this case specifically the Blue Sky White Sun) was a crucial element in the actual history and story. Raising it in defiance was a pivotal plot point. And they blurred it out. Its like blurring out the stars and stripes in an Iwo Jima flag scene. You can say its about China itself instead of ROC or PRC but it just happens that the govt. of China at that time used that particular flag. It was THE flag at that moment in history. Heck, I dont even support Taiwan independence but I hate warping/censoring history.
@@keithw4920 Because the CCP will never admit to hiding in the mountains waiting for everyone else to beat the Japanese, before pushing Nationalist China to the brink. Everything is done to suggest that "Real China" (them) are the ones that beat the Japanese, not those secessionist islanders on Taipei.
@@AvalancheZ250 there wasn't any PRC flags, because there werent any communists partaking this battle. Its just a huge embarrassment for them, so they chose to blur the nationalist flags.
The reason why they didn't deploy heavy weapons is because of the danger of the Japanese shells landing on the other side of Shanghai, which was occupied by the western powers. If an artillery shell would land there it would be a declaration of war and at the time, japan was not at war with them.
@@lambosus9549 Well there is a big gas container in the warehouse and it’s sitting next to the concessions.So the senior official don’t allow them to use bombs or heavy artillery.
I know, heroic war movie, action packed scenes - I just have to smile when watching this movie, knowing that in reality the Chinese mustered a solid defense, and had just a few losses while bashing the Japanese, who have bled in their attacks again and again. But that would not be so emotional and watchable. Amyway, a very solid movie.
@@davidye9566 indeed he did. I hadn’t noticed him. Still, he still had his rifle, and may have had a pistol, although this may be less likely. Unless his rifle was disabled or out of reach, or he was unable to fire it, there was no need to use a grenade. He was in good enough health to stand up and pull a grenade pin, and then struggle with someone.
my grandmother's brother was the only one of 5 male children in their family who came back alive after ww2. And he came back without both legs after the winter assault of Crimea in 42. I think it is quite ignorant to say who suffered the most and who was fighting best in those awful years.
The movie seems to be quite well-made and the visual effects look awesome. Can't tell if the beginning of this clip is all CGI or not. The battle scenes are well-conveyed and show the chaos of what battles like this looked like, when you are too near for radios and yet still can't hear properly due to all the firing and shouting. I like that there were constant cry-outs for grenades as grenades would and were totally abused in cases such as this. I need to watch the whole movie, I dunno enough about this particular situation and the SIno-Japanese wars that came before WWII, but I do know that they were ugly. Very ugly indeed, but in this particular case, sources online point that the Chinese NRA had about 10 troops killed in this heroic defense and 37 wounded, whilst I see a lot more casualties here so maybe they decided to throw those in for added effect. Prolly not the first time this has been done in a Chinese movie or in any movie tbh. I can understand wanting additional effect for any reason even propaganda, but man... 10 mins of effects here seemed quite enough for me, I think it's really well shown and definitely strikes home, dunno why the need to go overboard so much.
the war between china and japan did start earlier than european battlefield in ww2, but this war is also a part of ww2. In this battle, there were certainly more than 10 troops killed. Actually, this battle is only a show which is directed by the president of china in that time, to show the western world that china is battling, so they can ask for food and weapons from the west. During the invade from Japan in this war, more than 35,000,000 Chinese people died or injured.
@@jackhoffmanhoffman35 Confirmed! I wouldn't say that I would talk trash about movies like that unless they indeed claim to be historical. Sure there are some cool tales about ppl in history that really pulled off some crazy stuff like that or captured dozens of enemy soldiers singlehandedly and what not and stories of knights leaving the battlefield with 13 enemy banners and what not... but even though there are a lot of those stories, they are indeed varying in nature and not that many in number as Hollywood wants to believe. It has been some time now since Hollywood spent effort to make their movies more grounded in common sense. I like those movies. The ones that feel grounded.
What they have in these urban sieges is also a lot of waiting. There's weird little pauses when people have to run back out because their stuff runs out or they can't get something done. Or to get back and work something out, like banging improvised armour on a tractor or getting explosives in order.
Well, the thing is, if they really just showed a battle with only 10 dead NRAs, people would be saying it looked like cheap propaganda where Japanese serve the narrative purpose of clay pigeons. It's not the first movie to do this just to make the true story more believable.
Why didn't they just throw the satchel charges (grenade bundels) at the end down the hole, instead of strapping them on and becoming human bombs? Did they use the extra weight to break through the shields or to prevent the Japanese from throwing them away or what?
@@yoga5631 No, no I understand that. What I mean is if you drop the explosives on top of the shields and the explosives explode. Wouldn't the explosion kill the people underneath the shields as well? Are the explosives not powerful enough to penetrate the shields and thus harm the people underneath them on their own?
@@TheShadowOfZama The explosive on the shield won't kill the people under it, it might daze them or burn them but it won't outright kill them since the blast is blocked by the shield, plus if the grendes were bundled together there is a chance that the shield holder could just tilt the shield and let it roll off and fall behind them Also they are using Chinese steilhandgrenate which is weaker than the German steilhandgrenate because the Chinese who lack both industry and experience tried to mass produce them
About the real history, Japanese said they only needed three months to take whole china in 1937. Then Japanese troops attacked Shanghai in August 1937, the Chinese held it for more than four months.China lacked battle aircrafts, warships and heavy army weapons. The price the National Chinese Army paid was 300,000 soldiers killed in exchange for the lives of 50,000 Japanese soldiers.In the later period, a Chinese division with 8,000 post can usually only supported for a few hours before it has to withdraw from the line of fire. Because it has only a few hundred soldiers left unkilled .The 524th Regiment of the 88th Division in this movie is the last rear defense force.Over half of them were replaced by non trained well local security forces ,like militia.
i have seen this movie 10 times, and every time i cry what happened, this one is one of the few movies i really respect that is very well made that the Chinese soldiers of the KMT fought so well against a country that was much better armed I didn't know much about the war in China at the time and that's really annoying that only now gets more recognition I still don't understand that european country and the USA did nothing for China, only kind of support for China, nothing more when Germany started the european war in 1939, and 1940 France falls and the UK fights in north africa, leaving Aize very weak, only then did the USA do something that hit Japan hard, but that was too late to end the war to prevent my respect for the soldiers who gave their lives for the freedom of china. the Republic of China
to be fair, the US was one of the few Western countries who gave the most support to China when the ROC joined on the side of the allies, including training their soldiers and pilots.
@@huaiwei that's right, but the US still did too little to help in 1937 the UK and France also gave some support, but do little to stop Japan in 1932 as in 1937.the USSR got more stuff from the UK and US than ROC. tanks, jeeps, trucks, ammo, weapons, more was sent to USSR also it was difficult to supply ROC.
@@blue-skyuniform China was just way too big, and it was difficult to stop Japan sweeping through the country without putting a huge number of soldiers there. It is just logistically difficult to do that (trying to ferry support to Europe via the Atlantic was challenging enough, with the threat of German U-boats ever present). Ultimately, the only way to stop Japan was two atomic bombs.
Whether the scenes are fact or fiction. It is very dramatic scene for any movie. The sign of a Great movie. Entertaining your imagination is what a Great movie should do.
The losses in this movie against the Chinese soldiers were very dramatacized.. In reality only around 90 Chinese soldiers dies at the cost of more than 500 Japanese soldiers.
saw a lot of people in the comments asking why one side was so heavily engaged while the other was safe and there were so many passers-by watching.They judged the film to be fictional. I think these people are really ridiculous. Do you know where those people who were watching the battle are standing? was the Shanghai concession area.
Being next to Shanghai Concession was also probably the main thing that gave the defenders any chance to make a stand since it stopped the Japanese from using the heavy long range weapons.
@@ly8370i like yarnhub, history marche and local historian, i just hope not alot of people become inaccurate because of streamlined video productions like kings and generals, also cover sihang. Masterofroflness is good for the comment section wisdom, and other local ytbers.
It is not that a lot of the chinese soldiers were not as brave as this ones (as in every army, there were normal soldiers, cowards and heroes), it is just that this soldiers, were highly trained, equiped and comanded. They had been trained by german oficcers in modern infantery-tacticts and were estimated to be an elite-force of the chinese nationalist army. They were not only brave. They were highly trained specialists doing their job. Their fate, after the battle was very sad..... they deserved better.....
In real life a satchel charge would be strong enough to blowup the shield and those who are under it. I mean, grenades worked against tanks let alone those japanese carrying car doors and galvanised sheets of metal.
At that time, the Chinese army’s equipment was very poor, including grenades.Jumping off the building with a bomb is a real thing，the first man “Shusheng Chen”，This movie restores his true deeds
@@theodorezheng9870 Actually this units was one of the best equipped chinese divisions. They were part of the small elite force that was trained and equipped by the germans before they changed to supporting the japanease (do to japans anti soviet and anti USA political direction...and China not beeing a useful potential ally to them)
The bomber, who was severely wounded before he jumped, believed he had little chance of survival and chose to carry out the suicide bombing. 这个绑着炸弹跳下去的战士，在真实的战斗中，在跳去之前就已经身负重伤了，他认为自己存活的希望很渺茫，所以最终选择了这种自杀式袭击的方式。
The symbol on the helmet point out that this is Blue Emperor's force. But later the Red Emperor's forces claim the credits for themselves. This is an example for the saying the winner wrote history
@@ziqiangzhao3188 I mean the history books. But yeah, today Blue "province" is too weak so it is no loss to recognize their effort. What they gonna do? Reclaim the empire?
Although I was born in Taiwan, this is the deeds of my ancestors to defend against foreign enemies. They are the army of the Republic of China, the real Chinese soldiers, and the Republic of China is the real China.
I agree. I'm only just realising how much the teachers that taught me history (including about the KMT and the rise of Mao) were influenced by Marx and gave us a skewed view. Never let the CCP view prevail. All the best from Britain. As the great historian Macaulay wrote "No people who fail to take pride in the deeds of their ancestors will ever do anything in which their posterity can take pride.".
Fun fact: the CCP-sanctioned version of the film (i.e., the version we're watching) is 13 minutes shorter than the one that should've been released at the Shanghai film festival.
Hakka diaspora worldwide should be rightly proud that their fellow clansman, Colonel Xie Jin Yuan (the NRA commander in this movie) fought so gallantly against the overwhelming might of Imperial Japanese Army. There have been 2 Singaporean PMs (Lee Kuan Yew and his son, Lee Hsien Loong), 3 Thai PMs (Thaksin, Yingluck and just recently Paethongtarn Shinawatra) who is openly proud of their Hakka lineage and now this, Colonel Xie ! :)
Also the fact that it is very easy to be ambushed in urban warfare imagine going throught an alley way and from one of the windows an anti tank weapon fires
Because during that time shanghai is filled with fuel tanks and if Japan used artillery or tanks the whole Shanghai will be set on fire and other countries occupied territory will be doomed too
@@niidayosuke That's not true, they did use artillery and tanks (More specifically, tankettes) infact, attacks from artillery and tankettes are what pushed the Chinese defenders back into the warehouse from their defences outside of it.
"Mom, dad I'm sorry" 😭
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Realizing u sacrifice yourself for your parent and your country.Its hit deep in the heart.
That scene will always make me cry
"Look at those people at the south bank. It's like they're watching a show."
-Military Observer, watching a show
show must go on (C)
He was reporting. The others seemed to have gathered to attend a festival.
Kinda ironic 3 years later they would be fighting the japanese
The nationalists under Chiang are trying to build public support. One of the reasons this and other battles with the japanese get so much international attention is the amount of foreigners observing and reporting these events.
It works, too. For the greater US population Chiang and the nationalists are the legitimate chinese government. Not the other warlords, the other cliques the communists up in the mountains, the japanese and their puppet regimes. For the nationalists it pays off in international recognition and support.
@Kong Jun Jie That's pretty well known. The japanese troops and officers just start brutalizing towns seemingly spontaneously in front of correspondents and observers.
I saw many people saying stupid things in the comments, even though they didn't search for the truth. I must make it clear. 1, yes, this movie is about KMT's army fighting bravely in WW2, it isn't about CCP, please shut. 2, yes, this movie is made in mainland China, supported by official CCP government. 3, yes, although CCP and KMT are opponents, and had civil wars, they are on the same stand in WW2, and both fought bravely in the war. China, in total, has the second most victims in WW2, only slightly after USSR, way much more than any country else. The passion for the Chinese civilization is shared between CCP and KMT. 4, I saw many people say this movie isn't allowed in mainland China because it speaks highly of KMT, that is totally bullsh!t !! It's made in china, and released in China. It's even one of the highest grossing movies in China. So guys, check before you comment
中国卫国战争，我没必要用英文给你写😇。首先虽说这是国军，但是其主要战争体系是独立的，并不完全受国民党中央管辖，当初国民党大部分兵力都大几十万的去剿共，躺平，对于日本是一味让步，求和，以至于中国丧失了五分之一的领土，造成多次大屠杀，最后达成国共合作的还是共产党自己。可以说八佰壮士的促成和国民党共产党及没有任何关系，是自主抗日，如果按照国民党的体系，早就撤退了😅，一天到晚搁这洗国民党这个烂到骨头里的党也是没谁了
@@id5307 哈哈谢谢科普👍
Yes but nationalists did the majority of fighting against Japanese thus weakened to a pulp
the editing and camera move is awesome and there is an actual chain of command. you don't often see that in war movie these days
and you even see soldiers carrying ammo boxes
You see that in the "Generation War" series too.
KMT Army's elite unit was equipped with Germany equipments and trained by german advisors before WW2...that is why they are wearing German helmet and using german style weapons...
Elite? Then why were they so sorely lacking so much gear?
@@Briselance their logistic were stretched thin
That was my Question. Thanks
@@Briselance That is the political side of things......Those who can not defend themselves always get attacked
Who asked you
1937 Shanghai. In fact Soviet's Chuikov's experience in Changsha China was then applied in 1942 Battle of Stalingrad. These were few of the most brutal battles in history. Changsha was bombed to smithereens, 4 times.
Changsha was among the most heavily defended cities in China. It took the Japanese four attempts to capture the city.
I’m from Changsha, the city now under sight is basically all newly-built.Due to the horrendous havoc wreaked by the Japaneses during wwII, there is now little traces of the past that could be found about this ancient city of at least 2000 years of history.
for historical information:
The 88th Elite infantry division was originally a part of the German-trained elite force of the Nationalist Chinese army.
By the point of the battle for the Sihang Warehouse, this force was depleted severely, most of its ranks had been replaced by relatively untrained men, oftentimes conscripts.
The scenes shown are entirely overblown. The Japanese did not advance in such huge waves, for example, and the events displayed in this video have taken place over much longer timespans.
That aside, to my knowledge there was a single suicide bomb attack by the Chinese. If I recall correctly, done from the roof of the warehouse, but I might be mistaken on the last detail.
Another thing to note is, that the Japanese were originally trying to use direct-fire artillery to destroy one of the warehouse walls, but failed. Among the reasons were, that they had to be careful to not hit the international quarters of Shanghai.
Note: these guys were NOT communists! Some of them have previously fought the communists!
88 Division of nationalists trained by the Germans lol.
@@radziwill7193 "Chinese Nationalist" has nothing to do with "National Socialist", so hardly lolworthy...
@@TheDunestyler Actually, no. Father of Nations Sun Yatsen proclaimed the three main ideas of the revolution - nationalism, democracy and welfare (socialism). And later, Chin Kai-shek spoke favorably about the Third Reich and the USSR, he said that these countries implemented Sun Yatsen's ideas in practice.
@@radziwill7193 Chin Kai-shek sons conquered austria with the germans :D
@@radziwill7193 that might be, but i have my doubts, that he would approve of, what both nations did... Its one thing to have good intended ideals within your ideology, but its worth little if the regime in power corrupts, perverts and undermines it for their own goals, increase of power and questionable morals...
But yes, i know... Evry sytem falls victim to the humans in charge...
Just saying, he probably didn't approve of the regimes, but more about the systems in an more theoretical sense, pointing out a few good things about them, like the sense of togetherness that both indoctrinated their people with...
My Grandfather was 🇬🇧 Military Attache Shanghai 1937 -1939. years many stories of bravery. and a few souvenirs I still have.
This film might not be the most realistic, but I think it shows the reality of war quite well.
If it does show both side's casualties, then it's not trash
Although there is some artistic processing, it does reflect the real scene of the battle of Songhu in 1937.
Chinese war movie tend to portrait the Chinese as super soldiers and the Japanese as complete idiots... This Is the movie that breaks the mold and actually give a proper portrait of the brutality of the war
@@tomorin233 We call those dramas that depict Chinese soldiers as super soldiers and Japanese as fools (Anti Japanese God dramas (or a lump of dog shit)). Who is serious to see that.--我们把那些将中国士兵描绘成超级战士的，日本人描绘成傻子的剧，称作（抗日神剧（一坨狗屎）），正经人谁看那玩意。
@@tomorin233We call those dramas that depict Chinese soldiers as super soldiers and Japanese as fools (Anti Japanese God dramas (or a lump of dog shit)). Who is serious to see that.--我们把那些将中国士兵描绘成超级战士的，日本人描绘成傻子的剧，称作（抗日神剧（一坨狗屎）），正经人谁看那玩意。
See that, no iPads or screens, just people living in the moment.
In a film set in the 1930s, you don't say.
@@TarnishUK you’ve never seen this type of joke, have you?
@@polterguy0937 but there are cameras
Or in this case... people dying in the moment
Yeah living the moment, until they can't
My tear's are fckin burst when I heard: "Mom! I'm sorry!!" and "Mom, I'm leaving!" 🥺😢😭
The eight hundred were as hard as coffin nails. They are not inferior to those who fought in the Brest Fortress, Leningrad and Stalingrad, that's for sure. Real heroes.
One of the best Chinese war movies i have ever seen, respect you guys
thanks
"Give this to my mother". Then, boom. Tragic, but life affirming. We all die one day, but to chose how you go, and why, well that's something.
Men who literally gave everything when there was nothing left to fight with, no matter that your political views you have to acknowledge their sheer devotion to their cause.
And CCP wanted to destroy hide his Saga. Good for us they don't
I also acknowledged that this is indeed a video, no matter what my own political views are. I'm sitting in a chair (despite any political views, I have to acknowledge it). Let me tell you, I don't know your personal political leanings, but you have to admit, sandwiches are a type of food.
Looks like there are a lot of defectors who weren't engaging in sheer devotion.
lol oh boy, then your mind is going to be blown if you read about American Japanese War over Pacific. You gonna love the Japanese, their dedication and morale.
@@emceha "dedication“? ”morale“? It's a joke! Japenese soldiers were told that the emperoe is god , they must die for him in any case. But the emperor is a fake god, he pressed “人間宣言”after japan surrended, said he is a human not god . What a joke! A real breave warriors must know what does he sacrifice for, not to be cheated. Thst‘s why japan was defeated by the US, and chinese soldiers chase the US force from Yalu river to N38°.
@@emceha I’m ex British Army mate, soldier to soldier you have to admit the efforts even if they’re the enemy. Respect those who have the balls to fight you.
おもしろいですねえ！
良く出来ている！
しかも、もの凄く丁寧に細かい所まで良く出来ている！
本当に面白いです！
Chinese Soldier: "Zhōngguó wànsuì!" (Long Live China!)
@@FirstnameLastname-mk5un ten thousand*
yi wan is 10,000.
Yi wan is 1 million it’s yi chien
@@buu6525 一千 is a thousand
@@AnkaraMessi-p8g yep and that qien not wan
Love live china 🇨🇳
Not exactly what happened in terms of casualties but the intense fighting really suits it as a movie
True, actually the suicidal bomber is only one person...
Chinese suffered 10 dead (including 1 suicide bomber) and 35 wounded. Japanese suffered over 300 casualties in total
@@alexravex4575 huh it seems for the first time Chinese film exagerated their side casualties.
@@thitran1362 The reason is that the japaese were unable to carry out heavy bombing as they didnt wanna agitate the British or French ambassies nearby
@@thitran1362 just like Hollywood American saved the world from nazi lol.
British might be on the sea, Afghans on the mountains, Vietnamese in the jungle, Finnish in the snowy forest, Koreans on the roof but Kuomintang definitely has the middle floors of that building.
I shouldn’t be having a giggle with your comment and war is so devastatingly destructive, but this is funny 😀. Sorry in advance if I offend any people I don’t mean to make light of this matter.
Any thalassocratic society like the sea people having the boats.
Mongol is not good on the boat but theyre good in flat field battle
this was one of the most inspiring last stands i've ever seen!
it was hard not to burst out in tears...
they are way up there for me with the soviets in stalingrad, the germans in berlin, australians in tobruk, americans in pearl harbour and japanese on iwo jima...
in the face of utter carnage and annihalation, they gave their last... some for their nation... some for their people... but all of them for their comrades...
i am glad youtube recommended this to me.
Lord Tyrion 😂
I guess if you "like this" look at the Croatians' last stand in the Battle of Vukovar in 1991, a lot of similarities with all those battles you listed, Vukovar is known as the Croatian Alamo.
Camerone
Pearl Harbor isnt much of a "last desperate stand" though
Americans "in" Pearl Harbour? What are you talking about
Everytime i see this movie, i still cant bealive that modern day china (which is communist China), would actually make a movie about their enemy (in this case, nationalist China), and actually make the nationalist very heroic
But I think this kind of movie is forbid to play in PRC now,or even this movie is not for PRC to watch
ruclips.net/video/-7oOEMkTSKA/видео.html if you are interested
@@喵喵-p8iit;s chinese movie,i was watch this in chinese cinema
Becouse race wins over ideology. Race is the most important thing, so chinese will be chinese.
不管是国民党还是共产党都是中国人
That's so fucked up. Just opp, watching brave courageous men trading their life for the hopeful freedom of their nation.
The division u saw in the movie fought themselves to near extinction. By the end of the war they became one of the weakest divisions because they fought the most brutal of battles during the 8 years of the war
sadly，watching most brave man trading my money for the hopeful internet freedom of breakthrough nation GWF ，this is me
@@jotarothedixieboo3435 This force perished in the Chinese Civil War in 1947. Under the leadership of Deputy Commander Chen Mingren, the 88th Division participated in the counterattack in western Yunnan and the Chinese Expeditionary Force's second entry into Burma, and severely damaged the Japanese army. In early 1945, it was reorganized into the 71st Army. The 71st Army was transferred to the northeast ， When the 88th Division arrived at the Songhua River battle, it was completely wiped out by commie army
@@slavish_superiority i know that the 88th also participated in the Guangxi offensive at the end of the war, do u have any info on that?
@@slavish_superiority when i saw pictures of the 88th in burma, they were clothed just like ur typical regional division. Did all their original members from 1937 all perish or did they just ditched or lost all their equipment through years of fighting?
Damn this scene. The best one China ever give us for a long time
Yeah normally you associate terrible acting with chinese movies but even the background actors are brilliant here.
Forgotten heroes bathed in eternal glory
Soldiers: Fighting a brutal close combat
Goodyear zeppelin: Just chilling
Shanghai was the world's first "STALINGRAD"!
Well without the winter and tank
Probably not true at all
@@abenalif2147 there were tanketts
And I think Stalingrad was the second and Manila is the third Stalingrad of Asia.
@@spitthunder0075 Well, they didnt won so
What was preventing them from throwing the improvised explosives (bunch of hand grenades) through the hole?
Looking online, i can only find accounts of one guy Chen Shusheng, performing a suicide attack, nothing about other men doing it or the Japanese using steel shields, but English sources are few and far between it seems
Well the the grenades are too light to get through the shields
Yea, i was thinking they could strap a bunch to a concrete block and hurl it down lol
@@jotarothedixieboo3435 even so, if someone threw a bundle of grenades on top of a steel shield you were holding, you are in for a bad day
In the movie the grenades bounced off, were knocked away by the shields, or exploded on the shields with no effect (the shields were said to be too thick and too sturdy)
Imagine witnessing such a scene from a few hundred feet away. Surreal!
reminds me of the battle of bull run and the spectators from Washington DC
Spectating battles was a very common occurrence especially pre-20th Century, military observers from other countries would often travel on campaign with armies and document how they fought and how battles played out, not to mention any civilians in the area as most of the time battles took place in populated rural areas and these were long before the era of indiscriminate weapons and tactics so they were usually in little danger.
@@asneakychicken322 True!
我原本想用英语回复你，但我想了想还是用中文吧。
你知道这些观看战争的人所站的位置是哪里吗？是租界～你随便找本书看一下你就知道。
你知道苏州河有多宽吗？欢迎你来上海。四行仓库旧址现在就在苏州河畔，是中国著名的爱国主义教育基地。你来了之后就知道你所看到的电影里的一幕幕都是真实的，一点也不超现实主义
It happens even now in Ukraine
One thing we can all agree on is that war is terrible, and should be avoided at all costs. There are no true winners in a war, everyone in the battlefield suffers.
Well, everything happens according to god's will 🤷♂
@@kohtalainenalias facepalm
The Bankers and industrialists win every time that's the reason we have wars. Profit and power.
@@andymacrae994 sure. Nothing to do with politicians at all or historical issues... Right? Just bankers.
@@kohtalainenalias Denser than a blackhole
I cried watching this, the cheap cost of human lives, the insanely terrible war and the bravery of those defending their country with their own lives
Everyone thinks they ate defending their country, road to hell has good intentions at every step
ruclips.net/video/K3dbd2YyeN0/видео.html
Check out the attack against Napoleon in the TV show 'Sharpe' where row upon row of French soldiers just kept on getting mowed down by cannon fire until almost no one was left; from around 26 thousand killed.
don't worry it's only a film, it's not actually real
@@Banano79 bro its from fucking real event what the fuck
Even though their battle was legendary and the men were very very brave, in reality the Chinese only suffered about 10 dead and 30 wounded. In this film I can see at least 40 to 50 die possibly 100. In reality they did much better killing about 230 Japanese and wounding hundreds more while suffering just 10 dead. Thats a k/d ratio to remember. Almost all of them lived.
For dramatic effects probably
most of the men were lost in the battle of shanghai, only having 521 men left in the warehouse when the defense started compared to the original 800.
after they retreated, only >300 made it out.
@@AnkaraMessi-p8g most of the rest were captured and not killed in action. The actual killed in action number is about 10 to 13 during the warehouse siege. And the weren't 521, they were about 455.
@@stathispapadopoulos7926 all arguements aside, it's amazing how well the KMT held out, having the enemy suffer 10 times more casualties.
@@AnkaraMessi-p8g it was, no doubt. They were real heroes.
Can I just say this is an amazing action sequence. Like wow... Awesome
Kojima with the flamethrower was good! Also I like it how Jackie Chan is doing his famous stunts
How the ukraine was going pussy?
All those suicidal charge thought will come when you think about your love ones behind you in enemys hand and your brothers beside you fallen for you.
I like this battle scene. No over the top heroics. They don't die when they get shot, most of the time. Screams are heard and so are the cracks of the bullets impacting. So many bombs going of, but I wish there was more dismemberment to hit the nail on the head. I can go on and on.
I dont know how accurate this movie is when compared to what actually happened. But this is entertaining
This scene gives the impression, that the casualties of the NRA were extremly high, when in fact the chinese started the battle with 452 men and in the end 376 of them retreated to the foreign quarter.
@@Gariegen 432 actually
This scene is what the 3rd day should’ve looked like, there was inaccuracies with the chronology of events. Day 3 should’ve had a battle after the flag scene and the entire day 4 should be the Chinese withstanding heavy artillery spam from the japanese
@@jotarothedixieboo3435 There is disagreement on the number of soldiers with numbers ranging from 423 to 800, but most sources report the number 452.
@@Gariegen so, was this movie painting a false picture of what happened then?
Honestly, if the entire Chinese army was trained like this, the Japanese army would have been kicked out in a matter of weeks.
They are german trained and equipped with best quality equipment, sadly they are too few to have an effect on the wars
Only 80k german trained most if not all were conscripts and have very low morale
@@tinienteabanil2922 True imagine if they had like a million men with German equipment and training.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- the evil CCP will not even exist to this day but knowing china ang human nature it too will become what the CCP is today however retaining Chinas real culture intact
@@tinienteabanil2922 Chiang was the very same thing the CCP is known as in the West, an authoritarian who killed anyone he perceived as his enemy. He started killing the communists and basically anyone else who would be a challenge to his power, even before the Japanese invaded.
There's a reason why the US at some point basically stopped any real significant support towards him during the civil war on the mainland. He was corrupt and his army completely ineffective, even with good American equipment.
Does anyone notice there's a good year's blimp in this war? 🤣
They existed fr.Because Goodyear is an American company (1898) and that time a part of Sanghai was an international territory.And we all know blimp existed back then.And Goodyear is famous for blimps.
@@abbabubba part of Sanghai
@@Mrpomarcus oh yes yes
@@abbabubba while this might be correct,it feels very odd and i haven't heard of adds on blimps like it's common today back then.
it just feels off... noticed immediatly and was confused af
For a civilian, praying for no more war, no more political games. Soldiers and civilians can never be hurt the most.
Tell this to our Putler-emperator.
@@yurttgjk I’d love to. But, it take two to make a quarrel.You have to tell 'the great country' stop too😪.
i dont usually cry, but when I cry its for personal sacrificieslike these. jesus that hit hard.
“Bastards! Who told you to use cannons?!”
They actually hoped it wouldn’t stir any trouble with the international settlements a few hundred away, but since it evidently did, they immediately had to stop and stick with infantry weapons…
We knew it all along in Asia, China during the war was hardly the "sick man of Asia", they gave the Japanese a good hiding throughout the war and probably prevented major reinforcement to the Pacific Island.
These reinforcements would have starved due to the US submarine campaign.
@@boriserbe6688 The prep time the imperial forces have varies between the islands. As the US fleets move closer to the home islands, they start to run into islands that have good supplies and cannons behind steel doors and other nonsense.
That's certainly something they do. They start trying to skip islands they will have no use of or have too much defences. But some islands they just got to take and use as staging areas. And there are people who argue for a kind of naval blockade of Japan with more firebombing over their cities. Plus those who see the results of the strategic bombing they're already doing and how little it's done to japanese morale.
Even if this is a film, it's truly amazing to make me emotional, this is another movie that almost made me cry. Historically speaking, if I was there in person, I would've cried like I was in hell.
9:48
Chinese dude: Ouch that fall and gunshot hurts… i wanna rest.
Japanese captain: 😐
*EXPLODES*
The movie is artful in some details, but basically true. Think back to last year when I saw the movie in the cinema, there were a lot of sobbing in the cinema. No one left the cinema without red eyes
Where did you watch it?
@@johnl.7754 at a cinema in beijing
They blurred out the Nationalist flag using partial shots and the only time it is seen fully in the movie is the black and white shot of it falling down on the roof
scene.
That's because of the focus of the movie wasn't about the ROC or PRC. It was about China itself.
Notice how there wasn't any PRC flags, or even just any communists icons/symbols/flags in the entire movie either. There were certainly plenty of communist agents in Shanghai at the time, and a side plot could have been done about them, but none was.
Edit: Please read the other comment's I've made in this comment chain before asking more questions/arguing more discussion points. Thank you.
@@AvalancheZ250 Yes but the flag (in this case specifically the Blue Sky White Sun) was a crucial element in the actual history and story. Raising it in defiance was a pivotal plot point. And they blurred it out. Its like blurring out the stars and stripes in an Iwo Jima flag scene. You can say its about China itself instead of ROC or PRC but it just happens that the govt. of China at that time used that particular flag. It was THE flag at that moment in history. Heck, I dont even support Taiwan independence but I hate warping/censoring history.
@@keithw4920 Because the CCP will never admit to hiding in the mountains waiting for everyone else to beat the Japanese, before pushing Nationalist China to the brink. Everything is done to suggest that "Real China" (them) are the ones that beat the Japanese, not those secessionist islanders on Taipei.
@@purplemnkydshwshr true, the nationalists beat japan at great cost, then the now ccp came down and now pretend they did the deed.
@@AvalancheZ250 there wasn't any PRC flags, because there werent any communists partaking this battle. Its just a huge embarrassment for them, so they chose to blur the nationalist flags.
I get that it is very dramatized war epic, but I don't understand the Japanese strategy here, don't they have artillery.
Artillery is only for far range, which they will not use because they are having a close combat.
The reason why they didn't deploy heavy weapons is because of the danger of the Japanese shells landing on the other side of Shanghai, which was occupied by the western powers. If an artillery shell would land there it would be a declaration of war and at the time, japan was not at war with them.
You should watch the full movie which will explain it.
@@younghi4182 well I haven't watch the movie yet but its facts that artillery is for long range only.
@@lambosus9549 Well there is a big gas container in the warehouse and it’s sitting next to the concessions.So the senior official don’t allow them to use bombs or heavy artillery.
I know, heroic war movie, action packed scenes - I just have to smile when watching this movie, knowing that in reality the Chinese mustered a solid defense, and had just a few losses while bashing the Japanese, who have bled in their attacks again and again. But that would not be so emotional and watchable. Amyway, a very solid movie.
Pretty interesting. Good to see some films from other countries about historical events.
lol
a real history～
4:27 Japanese soldiers didn’t do a suicide attack with a grenade unless they were wounded too severely to fight or had no other option.
That guy got shot at 4:14 and blacked out for a moment.
@@davidye9566 indeed he did. I hadn’t noticed him. Still, he still had his rifle, and may have had a pistol, although this may be less likely. Unless his rifle was disabled or out of reach, or he was unable to fire it, there was no need to use a grenade. He was in good enough health to stand up and pull a grenade pin, and then struggle with someone.
@@davidye9566 watching it frame by frame, he appears to be hit in the shoulder or upper left chest, possibly neck or a glancing shot to the head.
I salute the fallen defending it in the real word
Covering losses in the second worldwar. China is often overlooked, though they were probably the most hard hit and fought the most couragous
my grandmother's brother was the only one of 5 male children in their family who came back alive after ww2. And he came back without both legs after the winter assault of Crimea in 42. I think it is quite ignorant to say who suffered the most and who was fighting best in those awful years.
3:56 ''Just checking if my gun works... ah shit''
The movie seems to be quite well-made and the visual effects look awesome. Can't tell if the beginning of this clip is all CGI or not.
The battle scenes are well-conveyed and show the chaos of what battles like this looked like, when you are too near for radios and yet still can't hear properly due to all the firing and shouting. I like that there were constant cry-outs for grenades as grenades would and were totally abused in cases such as this. I need to watch the whole movie, I dunno enough about this particular situation and the SIno-Japanese wars that came before WWII, but I do know that they were ugly. Very ugly indeed, but in this particular case, sources online point that the Chinese NRA had about 10 troops killed in this heroic defense and 37 wounded, whilst I see a lot more casualties here so maybe they decided to throw those in for added effect. Prolly not the first time this has been done in a Chinese movie or in any movie tbh. I can understand wanting additional effect for any reason even propaganda, but man... 10 mins of effects here seemed quite enough for me, I think it's really well shown and definitely strikes home, dunno why the need to go overboard so much.
the war between china and japan did start earlier than european battlefield in ww2, but this war is also a part of ww2. In this battle, there were certainly more than 10 troops killed. Actually, this battle is only a show which is directed by the president of china in that time, to show the western world that china is battling, so they can ask for food and weapons from the west. During the invade from Japan in this war, more than 35,000,000 Chinese people died or injured.
Meanwhile in a Holywood movie , a 'historical' movie a man can kill kill 1000 enemies unscratched
@@jackhoffmanhoffman35 Confirmed! I wouldn't say that I would talk trash about movies like that unless they indeed claim to be historical. Sure there are some cool tales about ppl in history that really pulled off some crazy stuff like that or captured dozens of enemy soldiers singlehandedly and what not and stories of knights leaving the battlefield with 13 enemy banners and what not... but even though there are a lot of those stories, they are indeed varying in nature and not that many in number as Hollywood wants to believe. It has been some time now since Hollywood spent effort to make their movies more grounded in common sense. I like those movies. The ones that feel grounded.
What they have in these urban sieges is also a lot of waiting. There's weird little pauses when people have to run back out because their stuff runs out or they can't get something done. Or to get back and work something out, like banging improvised armour on a tractor or getting explosives in order.
Well, the thing is, if they really just showed a battle with only 10 dead NRAs, people would be saying it looked like cheap propaganda where Japanese serve the narrative purpose of clay pigeons. It's not the first movie to do this just to make the true story more believable.
Chen Chusheng: I am taking you all to Hell with me.
All heros, never be forgot
The tension of this movie is insane, i watch from the cinema, and experience the movie like i really join the war through the cinema
"This battle brought to you by Goodyear and Coca Cola"
That Militia guy with a flamethorwer looks cool
He is not a militia, he is the rest of the annihilated troops
Damn, the last part hits really hard
I love how dramatic and over the top everything is in chinese movies
This one is actually alright compared to other low budget dramas though.
Why didn't they just throw the satchel charges (grenade bundels) at the end down the hole, instead of strapping them on and becoming human bombs? Did they use the extra weight to break through the shields or to prevent the Japanese from throwing them away or what?
Basically the weight a satchel charge is too light and would just reach the top of the shield and daze them a lil bit, the body was heavier basically
@@yoga5631 But the satchel charge would still explode right? Why do they need to break through the shields in order for the explosion to do its work?
@@TheShadowOfZama they need to hit the people holding the shield not the shields since the Japanese were trying to blow the building up
@@yoga5631 No, no I understand that. What I mean is if you drop the explosives on top of the shields and the explosives explode. Wouldn't the explosion kill the people underneath the shields as well? Are the explosives not powerful enough to penetrate the shields and thus harm the people underneath them on their own?
@@TheShadowOfZama The explosive on the shield won't kill the people under it, it might daze them or burn them but it won't outright kill them since the blast is blocked by the shield, plus if the grendes were bundled together there is a chance that the shield holder could just tilt the shield and let it roll off and fall behind them
Also they are using Chinese steilhandgrenate which is weaker than the German steilhandgrenate because the Chinese who lack both industry and experience tried to mass produce them
“It’s like there watching a show” says the guy with binoculars on a blip dangerously close observing the battle
Strong movie. This is a part I never knowing about.
願世界和平，不要有戰爭了...
对啊 两岸和平统一多好
@@xh6634 好和平需要双方平等的权利。中国共产党能保证平等的权利吗？看香港的例子，不太可能.
@@ElBandito 主要看协商 没有东西是不能谈的只要对面愿意统一
this aged well...
@@ElBandito 只能说历史上像小蒋、戈尔巴乔夫这样的人实在是凤毛麟角，当年蒋介石不也拒绝了两党制撕毁双十协定，权力的诱惑凡人难以想象。
About the real history, Japanese said they only needed three months to take whole china in 1937. Then Japanese troops attacked Shanghai in August 1937, the Chinese held it for more than four months.China lacked battle aircrafts, warships and heavy army weapons. The price the National Chinese Army paid was 300,000 soldiers killed in exchange for the lives of 50,000 Japanese soldiers.In the later period, a Chinese division with 8,000 post can usually only supported for a few hours before it has to withdraw from the line of fire. Because it has only a few hundred soldiers left unkilled .The 524th Regiment of the 88th Division in this movie is the last rear defense force.Over half of them were replaced by non trained well local security forces ,like militia.
4:48
I like the badass look he puts on right after putting on that flamethrower :D
Well, that was before I saw that 9:48 "Hello there!"
i have seen this movie 10 times, and every time i cry what happened, this one is one of the few movies i really respect that is very well made
that the Chinese soldiers of the KMT fought so well against a country that was much better armed
I didn't know much about the war in China at the time and that's really annoying that only now gets more recognition
I still don't understand that european country and the USA did nothing for China, only kind of support for China, nothing more
when Germany started the european war in 1939, and 1940 France falls and the UK fights in north africa, leaving Aize very weak, only then did the USA do something that hit Japan hard, but that was too late to end the war to prevent
my respect for the soldiers who gave their lives for the freedom of china. the Republic of China
to be fair, the US was one of the few Western countries who gave the most support to China when the ROC joined on the side of the allies, including training their soldiers and pilots.
@@huaiwei that's right, but the US still did too little to help in 1937
the UK and France also gave some support, but do little to stop Japan in 1932 as in 1937.the USSR got more stuff from the UK and US than ROC. tanks, jeeps, trucks, ammo, weapons, more was sent to USSR
also it was difficult to supply ROC.
@@blue-skyuniform China was just way too big, and it was difficult to stop Japan sweeping through the country without putting a huge number of soldiers there. It is just logistically difficult to do that (trying to ferry support to Europe via the Atlantic was challenging enough, with the threat of German U-boats ever present).
Ultimately, the only way to stop Japan was two atomic bombs.
11:04 This is scene makes my eye soak in tears.
Whether the scenes are fact or fiction.
It is very dramatic scene for any movie.
The sign of a Great movie.
Entertaining your imagination is what a Great movie should do.
@@刘志鸿刘 you Chinese?
You can still see the bomb-destroyed military warehouse building in Shanghai.
The losses in this movie against the Chinese soldiers were very dramatacized.. In reality only around 90 Chinese soldiers dies at the cost of more than 500 Japanese soldiers.
This is the battle of Shanghai Songhu in 1937.
"It's like their watching a show"
Says the guy in a flying Good year restaurant.
saw a lot of people in the comments asking why one side was so heavily engaged while the other was safe and there were so many passers-by watching.They judged the film to be fictional. I think these people are really ridiculous. Do you know where those people who were watching the battle are standing? was the Shanghai concession area.
Being next to Shanghai Concession was also probably the main thing that gave the defenders any chance to make a stand since it stopped the Japanese from using the heavy long range weapons.
Not just that. Many keyboard soldiers here are just shooting their mouths off without understanding the historical context in this drama.
@@ly8370i like yarnhub, history marche and local historian, i just hope not alot of people become inaccurate because of streamlined video productions like kings and generals, also cover sihang.
Masterofroflness is good for the comment section wisdom, and other local ytbers.
What is going on at 11:10 ? Why they keep jumping with explosives ? It looked like the first one killed all japanese...
The Japanese keep coming in with shields
It is not that a lot of the chinese soldiers were not as brave as this ones (as in every army, there were normal soldiers, cowards and heroes), it is just that this soldiers, were highly trained, equiped and comanded.
They had been trained by german oficcers in modern infantery-tacticts and were estimated to be an elite-force of the chinese nationalist army.
They were not only brave. They were highly trained specialists doing their job. Their fate, after the battle was very sad..... they deserved better.....
Cool movie, shit hole country. Hope they stop being communist shmucks and close their concentration camps.
@@mrdonkay29 тебе свой мозг очистить и закрыть от поступаещего бреда не помешало бы
@@mrdonkay29 a)Don't be a bitch
b)They aren't communists
c)yeah they should close em
@@zxera9702 CCP= Chinese Communist Party.
@@mrdonkay29 The name's communist(ironic) but in reality the modern CCP is anything but communist.
4:20 what are those hoses that the Japanese soldiers are wearing on their backs for? Or are they Naval Infantry? Their uniforms look Dark blue
I've never thought CCP would approve a movie that is dedicated to the KMT soldiers.
The war of resistance against Japan is not a battle of one party, but of the whole Chinese nation!
做正确的事就会被允许！共产党不是恶魔先生
In real life a satchel charge would be strong enough to blowup the shield and those who are under it. I mean, grenades worked against tanks let alone those japanese carrying car doors and galvanised sheets of metal.
At that time, the Chinese army’s equipment was very poor, including grenades.Jumping off the building with a bomb is a real thing，the first man “Shusheng Chen”，This movie restores his true deeds
@@theodorezheng9870 although the movie exagerated the number of suicide bombers.
@@theodorezheng9870 Actually this units was one of the best equipped chinese divisions. They were part of the small elite force that was trained and equipped by the germans before they changed to supporting the japanease (do to japans anti soviet and anti USA political direction...and China not beeing a useful potential ally to them)
@@thitran1362 UR right，but just a movie,not documentary
why so serious？It show the spirit of the soldiers
The bomber, who was severely wounded before he jumped, believed he had little chance of survival and chose to carry out the suicide bombing.
这个绑着炸弹跳下去的战士，在真实的战斗中，在跳去之前就已经身负重伤了，他认为自己存活的希望很渺茫，所以最终选择了这种自杀式袭击的方式。
The symbol on the helmet point out that this is Blue Emperor's force. But later the Red Emperor's forces claim the credits for themselves. This is an example for the saying the winner wrote history
What？This movie was shot by the Red Empire
@@ziqiangzhao3188 I mean the history books. But yeah, today Blue "province" is too weak so it is no loss to recognize their effort. What they gonna do? Reclaim the empire?
Although I was born in Taiwan, this is the deeds of my ancestors to defend against foreign enemies. They are the army of the Republic of China, the real Chinese soldiers, and the Republic of China is the real China.
much love from South Korea
I agree completely.
I agree. I'm only just realising how much the teachers that taught me history (including about the KMT and the rise of Mao) were influenced by Marx and gave us a skewed view. Never let the CCP view prevail. All the best from Britain.
As the great historian Macaulay wrote "No people who fail to take pride in the deeds of their ancestors will ever do anything in which their posterity can take pride.".
Cool story bro.
Fun fact: the CCP-sanctioned version of the film (i.e., the version we're watching) is 13 minutes shorter than the one that should've been released at the Shanghai film festival.
Wow how did I miss this movie ?
because USA hate China?
@@earthfederationspaceforce9844 yeah I live in Australia 🇦🇺 m8
Hakka diaspora worldwide should be rightly proud that their fellow clansman, Colonel Xie Jin Yuan (the NRA commander in this movie) fought so gallantly against the overwhelming might of Imperial Japanese Army.
There have been 2 Singaporean PMs (Lee Kuan Yew and his son, Lee Hsien Loong), 3 Thai PMs (Thaksin, Yingluck and just recently Paethongtarn Shinawatra) who is openly proud of their Hakka lineage and now this, Colonel Xie ! :)
Whenever I see battle scenes, I tell myself, "What a terrible waste of everything!" Yet there are battles that need to be fought.
That shield formation looks like something out a medieval castle siege.
why Japan dont use the tank
They have ga
They have, the walls were too thick for tank shells to get thru
Also the fact that it is very easy to be ambushed in urban warfare imagine going throught an alley way and from one of the windows an anti tank weapon fires
Because during that time shanghai is filled with fuel tanks and if Japan used artillery or tanks the whole Shanghai will be set on fire and other countries occupied territory will be doomed too
@@niidayosuke That's not true, they did use artillery and tanks (More specifically, tankettes) infact, attacks from artillery and tankettes are what pushed the Chinese defenders back into the warehouse from their defences outside of it.
Good Year really had some dope airship tours back in the day...
88th regiment was bravely fought against IJA but China not ready to war in that time.
Giving their lives to deffend a Cola factory. The most heroic and most devoted thing i've ever seen. The Chinese are the greatest heroes of all Asia.
It was a bank
@@bolobalaman actually, i just realised it was a werehouse. But it would've been perfect if it was a Cola werehouse.
Coca Cola: "This is a sacrifice we are willing to make... 😞"
@@Vollification not if it means it should fall to the wrong hands.
I’m surprised the PRC allowed the Nationalist flag to be shown in this movie.
same
做正确的事有何不可？
This time the guys in the coal-scuttle helmets get to be the good guys.
Не только у нас был... дом Павлова и Александр Матросов... светлая память Всем героям, отдавшим жизнь за свою Родину
Все герои, которых я знаю, на кладбище...Они имеют, наверное, в жопу свою славу и вечную память...
2hat movie name is?
What that skyship doing above the city (and what city name is)?
another epic war movie battle scene after Saving Private Ryan, Taegukgi and Black Hawk Down…
Talk about intensity..what is the title? Seriously looks good.
where can i watch the movie for free?
all the pages I've seen with one scam after another
Torrent
MUSICHQ THATS IT WHERE I WATCH STAR WARS BUT YOU NEED TO USE VPN THATS ALL
It's on youtube, just search the eight hundred
Do Goodyear has logo back then?
По моему можно было просто кидать гранаты вниз, без людей)
Логично ! Ватсон
Те бедолаги были и так уже ранены, так что знали на что идут. Если погибнем - прихватим с собой куда больше врагов с собой.
I notice a blimp with good year on the side
Zhongguo wansui from México.
Viva México ！
the civs just vibing to the sounds of grenades and guns shots
"Восемь Сотен" , так называется фильм. 2020 года. Фильм об обороне склада Сыхан от японских захватчиков , Шанхай в 1937 год.
Жесть. Это из ряда вон выходит. Очень интересно. Но не понятно!
Только я не понял, почему у китайцев каски немецкие
@@4019snake Вооружение и амуницию в Германии покупали. Армия Чили например до сих пор в немецкой форме ходит.
@@focuspokus3404 во дебилы
0:00 この飛行船タイムスリップでもしたのか…？
グッドイヤーの飛行船は1916年頃からあるので、むしろかなり忠実に作られてる