Choy lay fut isn't too bad a martial art. It could do better if mix with some other arts though. I forget who Augusta Fong??? some kung fu master mix it with hung gar and something else. If I'm correct?
“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." - Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).
@@timothyfreeman97Bruce Lee didn't say "CLF is undefeated in Thailand." Winning any match in Thailand was impressive to Bruce Lee because no one in Wing Chun has ever been able to do it.
In Choy li fut, they promote sparring and competition. They promote improvements by mixing modern and traditional training methods together. I wish a good Choy li fut Sifu came to our country (Bangladesh[🇧🇩{বাংলাদেশ}]) and taught us authentic Choy li fut.
Finally! Finally someone says what I've been saying for years now: Choy Lee Fut is a mixed martial art! As a CLF practicioner, I get really happy to see proven the effectivity of the style. Many styles work, as long as they are trained in proper way, having combat-focused training and sparring. That's the only way we can really see if it works or not, and I know that CLF, as well as some other chinese martial arts can be really effective. Thanks, Jerry, great content as always 🙏🏻
CLF is big on long movements, closing distance. You see that where he really extends the lead arm out far while moving forward fast. You also see it where he stuffs the lead in to press the opponent, and follow up with the punch from the rear. Both CLF and Hung Kuen press the opponent a lot with the lead arm while coming in for attack. CLF is big on haymaker, roundhouse punches, and there were several of those. The wide, big punches of CLF can also modify as takedowns, and those came up a few times. He does a hook that doubles as a throw. The reason people are saying they don't see any CLF is because CLF forms are practiced with really extreme stances, not at all close to what really happens in a fight. This is to build the coordination, perfect the move, build strength in the legs, and teach how to get the power from the torso - and exaggerate a lot on the angles. In a real fight, everything has to shorten up - but the moves are still there. Something that might be a full twist from horse stance to bow facing sideways is going to stay mostly in a forward boxing stance in a real fight and do a much shorter twist.
100% spot on there, and I would add this is true of virtually all matrial arts... Tai Chi exaggerates fluidity and calmness... Karate exaggerates dynamic tension an exhaling at the point of impact... Wing Chun exaggerates precision and caution... Pakua exaggerates circular movement and flexibility... capoiera exaggerates constant movement and frequency of kicks... etc.
@Tah RE: "Your comment is nonsense" Entitled to your opinion, but for the sake of being constructive, some specificity would be useful. I offered examples of the types of things I saw in the video which one also finds in CLF forms. I expanded upon the way forms practice and application changes. Which part of those are nonsense? Are the things I pointed out either not in CLF forms, or not in the video? Does the translation from forms practice to application not adapt in the way I describe? Or is there some other way that the comment is nonsense other than those possibilities?
@Tah those weren't the examples I gave. The rebuttal you offer thus far has yet to address my specific points. What I referenced were moves I learned from CLF forms. If you want to call my point nonsense or fantasy, you need to actually refer to my specific points. And, again, are you saying those moves/techniques are not taught in CLF? Are you saying they are not evidenced in the video? You keep asserting I am incorrect, but have yet to indicate how. You may be correct, but as of yet you have not provided a sufficient rebuttal.
@Tah before going further, do you a know any CLF forms, sets, or have you studied any CLF? If you have, then we can refer to material and I can explain what I think I see. If you have not, then I do not understand the authority by which you can assert the techniques are not there. As far as advantage, etc., I don't see how that matters when asking whether or not someone learned something from a particular source. One may learn and apply something and either do well or not do well. It doesn't change where they learned it from.
Yod is one of the best muay thai guys out these, fights in ONE. Marco is Blake's sihing and they've trained together. My guess is his base is clf but he now trains mt exclusively just to stay competitive.
Please dont use acronyms. It is the fall of the human race. I dont like trying to decipher a sentence. Im old. Also its inconsiderate assuming everyone knows what random combination of letters you choose even mean.
From memory, Marco also trained with the late, great Alan Pond - who had a background in boxing, kickboxing and kung fu. I believe he is now a striking coach at an MMA gym, not a Muay Thai guy.
I've seen this fight a few times already. I remembered Tentori giving Yod some trouble by using a southpaw stance, which causes Yod's favored (and brutally destructive) left middle kick to be less effective, by virtue of the close-stance matchup that closes down the angles of the rear-side attacks of each respective fighter. Yod would tactically switch to orthodox in this fight, allowing him to use the right kick to attack Marco's open side with success. But I had no idea Marco was a Buk Sing CLF fighter. This is actually really cool to discover. My striking background was Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut, Muay Thai, Kyokushin, and Boxing. I feel so blessed to have been taught by teachers from the most combat-effective Chinese, Thai, Japanese, and Western striking arts.
I’ve studied Choy Li Ho Fut and unfortunately because of the rising crimeI’ve had to used it to defend myself. What I like about this Chinese martial art is that is extremely offensive you are taught to become the attacker. One of the most legit fighting Kung Fu styles out there.
People are commenting that “there was no CLF here” but the thing is, like every Kung Fu style, there are lineages, and all the bickering and random technique changes that comes with that… Some lineages don’t even spar, while others do but insist CLF has to be done from a bladed, very Karate-like stance. And others just use what’s basically a kickboxing stance. Heck, just check Lee Koon Hung’s book - it’s like, in the first or second chapter. The thing is that (in my opinion) CLF “stances” aren’t really meant to be stances, but footwork. The step kickboxers use to throw body jabs? That’s what the horse stance is! The step a boxer may use to advance with a straight? Basically a bow stance! Cat stance is a retreating step, or putting weight on your rear leg to kick/check. Cross stance is used to throw spinning stuff. Etc etc.
@@malakatan3235 If by "kung fu" you mean punching & kicking, yep, I saw some kung fu there, but if you mean any techniques you'd see in traditional kung fu forms, well, uhmm, where were they?
The hooks in CLF is known as Sow choi which is our version of a hook and we got over hands name kup choi. What I see here is that he does a lot of skipping kicks which is taught by CLF. Skipping kicks is a way that you can move forward with attacking with your lead leg.
On the Wikipedia page for Choy Li Fut it says that Bruce Lee has once said: "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost"
Been watching your videos for a while and it's crazy to see you break down Marco's fights. I've been lucky enough to have trained with him and been to a few of his fights. Thanks for the great videos cheers
Do you have any footage yourself? I’ll feature you too! There seems to be so much ignorance about CLF so I will gladly feature more CLF any time I get CLf footage!
@@FightCommentary I never trained CLF. I trained out of a Mauy Thai gym where Marco would come to train with my coach Alan Pond. Who also had a kungfu background, Alan recently passed away. But I have sent the link of your video through to one of Marcos pad men and training partner in hopes to help get you in touch with Marco
Choy Li Fut is obvious in the video. It's characterized by a fluidity and gracefulness that creates a crazy effective offense and defense. I'm so glad I chose this martial art.
Yup! Blake uses them a lot too, I like his jab-gwa and gwa-straight combos. Both him and Marco also use sow choy a lot, which is the overhand/long hook (it can be thrown both ways)
CLF is meant to be used bare knuckle or with minimal hand protection (like MMA gloves). That’s why you see so many UFC fighters getting caught with those heavy swinging strikes similar to what you see in CLF.
Choi Li Fut was named for the founder Chan Heung's three masters. Chan Yue Woo his uncle who taught him the Buddhist style that focuses on palm strikes. Li Yau San who thought him southern Shaolin the Li fist or long fist tequniques. And Choi Fook, who taught him northern Shaolin
@@lancehobbs8012 CLF does not practice nor teach buddhism. However, our ancestors were from the Buddhist Shaolin Temple, hence the religion of our ancestors is why buddism is mentioned
why does choy lee fut looks like kickboxing when applied in combat? BECAUSE that is how it looks, we have kicks and punches, straight punches are called cheunnang choy, wide hooks aka wild haymakers aka overhands are called sow choy, wide punches hitting with the palm are cap choys, spinning back fist are dat choy, literally thats what every clf practicioners train constantly, what were you expecting to see? kung fu movie stuff? when you sparr you adapt what you know to combat, thats it.
@RAWSNL You don't learn how to use chinese weapons in kickboxing, eyepoking, heabutting, elbows, jointlocks, You don't have the tradition and (may I Say) cool Kung fu outfits, neither the cultural aspects as lion dance, traditional chinese medicine, Among other stuff; the fighting is only one aspect of Kung fu (one that most practitioners and Styles neglect, sadly).
@RAWSNL BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN JUST FIGHTING INVOLVED WITH CHOY LEE FUT. WE HAVE CULTURE, LION DANCES, WEAPON'S TRAINING, TRAINING FAMILY, AND SO MIUCH MORE THAN PUTTING ON THE GLOVES AND FIGHT.
@RAWSNL EYE POKING OVER RATED OR NOT WORKS. ARE YOUR EYES INVULNERABLE TO DEAD ON EYE POKES? NOPE. THEREFORE STILL RELEVANT. PERIOD . cHINESE WEAPONS CAN TEAC YOU HOW TO USE EVERYDAY OBJECTS AT HAND SO THEREFORE STILL RELEVANT.
@@crystalfmaibach8582 WE ALL PUNCH AND KICK LIKE EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WE ALL ONLY HAVE TWO HANDS AND TWO FEET. ONLY THE LAME ARE THAT CLUELESS
That sort of 'superman punch' kind of thing is a lot like the 'flying leopard fist' punch that his (and my) late Si Gung is seen using in videos. You also mentioned kicks that are similar to Muay Thai. Some examples here are things like 'deng gerk' which is a stabbing front kick which is like a MT teep. The 'barn gerk' is a shin kick to the opponent's leg that is a lot like MT leg kicks. That spinning back kick was a 'foo may gerk'.
More Choy Li Fut to come! The fact that other Kungfu styles are talking so much trash in the comments makes me know what the real Kungfu style to feature is from now on
Leung Sheung started with Choy Lay Fut and Wong Sheung Leung with boxing. They were both fighters and made Wing Chun work because they already knew how to fight from their base fighting styles.
EDIT: i just looked up Marco’s bio and we trained in the same type of CLF!! There aren’t many of us out there- that was an awesome find. Fun facts about some CLF styles (depending on how hard and modern they are): you condition your forearms like a Muay Thai fighter conditions their shins. You would whack your arms with another person or have someone hit your forearms with a wooden pole. I think Kung fu gets a bad rep because of the cultural revolution limiting practice and evolution of all the styles. So you get what we see in a lot of your videos with masters in China. where do you find Kung fu styles that evolved? you’ll find some Kung Fu styles that actually spar and fight in the west! Like America, Canada, Australia, and parts of Europe. As that’s where they were able to grow! But they are rare as those generations are dying and the rules to start a new school are super strict. I trained Bak Hsing CLF growing up and then Muay Thai after my Sifu died (rip). Our training was a mix of forms like what you’d expect with Kung Fu styles, sparring drills, and of course sparring. Conditioning we did on our own- which encouraged weights training and cardio. Transitioning to Muay Thai was an easy and fun process with the foundation I had!
In Zora, Mb ITF tkd we had a drill of knocking arms. 3 count down up down. our style was specific towards aggressive counterblocking. Very interesting style.
Choy Li Fut is a great style, but hardly the 'first' mixed martial arts Kung Fu style. Lots of Kung Fu styles are based on previous Kung Fu styles. Praying Mantis has the hands of that insect, but the footwork of Monkey. Wing Chun was based on the best techniques of various styles; particularly Snake and Crane. Those are just two examples. :)
@BIGFOOOOOT no sir. First, most martial arts became combat techniques. Nobody will be applying techniques of Kati (kung fu) of Kata (Karate) nor choreography of Korean fights like Pomsae (Tae Kwon Do). Muay Thai is not pure either, It suffered with the Burmese invasion (Lethwei/ Burmese fight) Indian (Kalarapaiatt...) and even other refugees around Siam (Thailand), suffered the influence of boxing due to clashes against the English . It's not that old, it was founded in the 20th century. Second, Kickboxing was founded by the Japanese master Noguch in the confrontation of Karate and Muay Thai (also in the 20th century), with Ring (Boxing) rules. Third, Wushu Sanda, was founded by researchers or masters, Chinese army officers, Physical Education teachers and others in the early 20th century as well. The Chinese fights, suffered with the Cultural Revolution, in the 70s, the fight was not defined the rule in fact, it was tried with iron and fire and today it is known as SANDA, this fight, there are several more efficient techniques of kung fu, being simplified, along with an ancient Chinese martial art such as Shuai Jiao and Soviet assistance with boxing. that is, no one will be giving a De tony jaa, Not like Daniel San like the Karate kid, and even less, sticking with your fingers like Praying Mantis or Jet Li's. Regardless of the fight, they are all together and mixed. Don't be like the others, repeating everything that others say, search for articles with bibliographic references and also search for the other side of the fight, because, keep saying the same thing (panda, propaganda, bla bla bla...) only makes you a pirate parrot. If you want to see some traditional style winning, I'll show you some, okay? Good afternoon!
@BIGFOOOOOT If so, everyone lied. One, that several MUAY THAI enthusiasts said that the fight has been around for more than 2000 years, however, some researchers said the opposite, that most spectacle fights are modern. If so, what about the masters of Shorinji KENPÔ (martial art based on kung fu) are they lying?, and the style of karate SHORIN Ryu (SHORIN = SHAOLIN IN CHINESE) the Teachers or masters of fighting, are they lying too? And TANG Soo Do(Korean martial art based on Chinese martial arts through the TANG Dynasty) are they also lying? There are a lot of uninformed things there. A good part of the styles of kung fu styles are obsolete and this is true, it does not mean that it is imitation, as most of them went through modernization, they are no longer MARTIAL (Swords, machetes, spears, bow and arrow...) to) to compete (rules, time, no illegal moves. just showing one side of the coin is not enough, you should see the other side of the rotten fights too, this is where I discriminate. because about Chinese techniques, I'm already lucid and not I'm deluded, but we must analyze (research, investigate) with caution, not to be unfair either. Some styles of kung fu do have their place in the Sun.
@BIGFOOOOOT Quite the contrary, irrelevant, that's what you're doing, there's a lot of bad news there. one is that fallacy in which they say that kung fu is not effective, it puts everything in the same bag, another is to think that it is an absolute truth in things, what we have, are only assumptions (which may be it), no FACTS, facts, it's when everything is recorded on videos and we weren't there to know. I base myself on bibliographical references, websites, and people qualified to deal with the subject in relation to the research and then I compare the 2 factors and draw conclusions, something that many do not do, due to prejudice, tantrums or lack of information. Let's put the dots on the i's.
@BIGFOOOOOT my English is weak, I apologize. It's just that there are some facts that count (common sense) about kung fu or other fights, that I'm taken aback, but at one point, it's right. there are no fights sportivized over 2000 years, everything has been renewed, there are all efficiencies and failures.
not only in choy lee fut, instead of high guard. in boxing there is a boxing style that use hands down too. Rely on quick reaction, foot work and head movement.
YO, this guy goes to the gym next to mine down in midland! Damn i should've one to that one He lives in the same state as Blake, the other choy li fut guy on this channel
@@FightCommentary nah, I go to a gym next to it, my coach went to his gym. I don't actually know the guy unfortunately, just excited my city got mentioned 🤣
Tai Chi is not the only martial art to come out of China. From what we've seen so far, Tai Chi is simply the most useless one, and that none can be useful without sparring. Choy Li Fut and even Wing Chun become very useful if the practitioner spars with resisting opponents. No word yet on what a Tai Chi practitioner who spars properly would look like in the ring.
SANDA IS A PLATFORM CHOY LEE FUT USES TO TEST OUT THEIR SKILLS BEYOND POINT FIGHTING OR THE STREET. SANDA HAS RULES IN HOW TO FIGHT, IF A STUDENT OF ANY STYLE CANNOT FIGHT WHILE WEARING GLOVES AND TO LIMITING RULES, THEN THE FIGHTING IS NO GOOD AT ALL. ALL KUNG FU IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON USING IT.
Very interesting sequence at 2:23, both CLF and MT in south paw, CLF throws a cross that MT intercept with an inside stiff jab. Immediately MT double jabs and CLF shells. MT throws a low cross. CLF switches stance and throws a low jab which MT evades. CLF throws a jab cross which MT parries and evade. MT throws a jab which evades by stepping back to south paw and traps with what looks like a double tan sao only the contact is on the inside! (Yeah I some wing chun terminology. Not sure what that's called in CLF or even if it is part of CLF). Cool, but that left CLF open for a left elbow to the head. After that MT clinches, then posts with the right arm and delivers the finishing knee. At 5:35 I see a looping hook immediately followed by a backfist! I see that a lot in CLF demos. I saw Israel Adesanya do that in a fight once as well as Demetrius "Mighty Mouse" Johnson do something similar in his most recent fight against Andriono Morenes. I think the backfist is under rated. Joe Rogan once criticized it as "not as powerful as an overhand." But that's missing the point. A backfist is a good follow up to an overhand. Being able to effectively strike from wherever your fist is gives one an edge.
It is not the first time historically that someone combined three syles into one. Yagyu shinkage ryu did so in the 16th century and for unarmed fighting ryoi shinto ryu and kito ryu did so in the 17th century. For Kito ryu that even (supposedly) included Chinese martial arts as well as Japanese. Anyway combing arts was very common in Japan historically.
If I remembered correctly, they never mention hung gar as acknowledging fut gar sort of covered that. Again, this is purely a here say from my early days of learning kung fu.
paul vizio is a choly lee fut guy????? cause if he isn't a choy lee fut guy, NO ONE ASKED ABOUT NO PAUL VIZIO. in that case, paul vizio has nothing to do with the title of this video. at all.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 not Choy Li Fut, but Kung Fu. (Fu Jow Pai). That’s what the title of this video says. “The Best Kung Fu Fighter Ever”. I simply offered an alternative opinion regarding the best Kung fu fighter. Documented professional fights in the ring - Vizzio is obviously worth considering.
@@lincolnlawrence7703 oh so you're being selective with what you read, cause right after “The Best Kung Fu Fighter Ever” you seemd to overlook something. here is the REAL TITLE WITOUT BEING SELECTIVE. "The Best Kungfu Fighter Ever - Choy Li Fut Marco Tentori". so there's no need to talk about ANYONE ELSE. cause this video is not about kung fu in general, its about Choy Lee Fut's Marco Tentori. don't wanna hear about anyone else.
I'm coming the realization that SO MaNY NOVICES think what Tantori's doing here is Kick Boxking is because THEY don't know CLF techniques at all. For example, Ping An Choy or eye level fist is very very very similar to a boxers jab. Put gloves on our hands, you don't get to see the shape of the fists, so you attribute things to "KICK BOXING". choy Lee Fut has its own teeps, its own set of elbow strikes, it's own knee strikes, its own hooking punches, its own upper cuts, spinning back fists, But since gloves on our hands disguises what we do, the NOVICES label it as KICK BOXING because these NOVICES only think Kung Fu is about hand or weapon forms training. They think our forms are how we fight. Yet, like so many novices, they are incorrect. i read all these commments and can't help but to laugh at the level of arrogance behind the comments because they're so wrong and without knowledge of true CLF and what we do.
the other day i nthe park i saw some cho li fat guys doing forms and shadow boxing. they were hitting hard. so i really apreciate thart more wu shu/Sanda/ wingchun guys are taking the training for teh ring. also Please make qi la la go vaping please .
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 No, I meant that as a compliment. Anytime “Kung Fu” wins, it should be promoted as Sanda to raise Sanda’s popularity vs Muay Thai or Dutch Kickboxing.
@@tjsho417 Thing is sanda isn't separate from CLF. They have their own thing, I think it's simply called "Choi Lee Fut Sanda", very similar to regular sanda, but there's some differences in the rules. CLF is very rich, you can concentrate on different aspects of the art depending on your focus.
not best ever, but best you've seen. he looks pretty average imo. there have been kung fu fighters who beat muay thai guys in the past. looks to me like the huge size advantage helped him lots. PS: looks like on the records it says the muay thai guy won.
Bruce Lee didn't say "CLF is undefeated in Thailand." Winning any match in Thailand was impressive to Bruce Lee because no one in Wing Chun has ever been able to do it. CLF fighters had to train to fight Muay Thai because Wing Chun was far too low of a standard.
you are spreading misinformation Sir. Danny Glover ....bruce's friend and student wrote a book about bruce lee and that statement is found in said book. therefore your errored assertion that bruce lee did not say that at all, sounds like you are calling the late danny glover a liar. is that what you are attempting to do here?
5:36 wait, did the other guy retract his arm after punching, or did Tentori swat him away? I can't clearly see it, but it looks like Tentori swatted his arm away right?
There were two styles of Chinese boxing that came to Thailand and left undefeated, 1 was choy li fut the other was a Yang style Taijiquan boxer. Even today Choy li fut and Taijiquan are greatly respected here in Thailand.
One good resource which could be used to analyze CLF training and technique is "Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu Complete Combat Theory Volume 1" by Sifu Chris Childs. Would love to see any of 10 elements of CLF identified as being used in the matches, as well as any of their 3 methods of power-generation (sinking, sliding, torque).
THANK YOU MY MAN! I was looking for somethign so that next time we look at Choy Lay FUt, I can just use the names when seeing them so that the audience knows "kickboxing" doesn't have a monopoly on ways to move the body ;)
Well you have been wrong and way off buddy! Pankration is and here is the information below about it - Pankration (/pænˈkreɪtiɒn, -ˈkreɪʃən/; Greek: παγκράτιον) was a sporting event introduced into the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and was an empty-hand submission sport with few rules. The athletes used boxing and wrestling techniques, but also others, such as kicking, holds, joint-locks, and chokes on the ground, making it similar to modern mixed martial arts.[1] The term comes from the Greek παγκράτιον [paŋkrátion], meaning "all of power," from πᾶν (pan) "all" and κράτος (kratos) "strength, might, power."[2]
@@mickgianola9321 ahh no it’s not buddy! Cause if that was the case you’d see more fighting similar to a MMA event when these types of traditional martial arts would spar. But the fact is you don’t! if you recall the old footage of these so called Kung Fu masters fighting in the old black and white clips there was no resemblance to MMA same goes to karats etc. Probably the closest would be pankration or some type of primitive Lethwei or Older style of Muay Thai or Muay Boran or Muay Chaiya. Where the rules are limited.
Martial arts don't have to look like modern MMA to be mixed. The creators of many, if not all Martial arts had more than one teacher, and combined what they learned into the system that they taught.
Feels like a kick boxer vs a Muay Thai. Guess the more Kung Fu fighters spar they end up becoming kick boxers x Muay Thai. Kind of like dutch kick boxers. I don't really see any special Kung Fu techniques.
the thai is yodsanklai, a very good thai fighter that has fight many times in one championship. The thing is you can be as big as you want but still not guaranteed to beat him
@@FightCommentary yessir it would. Also if you want someone to interview it would be really cool if you could get Ranton who is a ex Shaolin disciple and a RUclipsr to talk about the effectiveness of Shaolin martial arts ect
SANDA IS A PLATFORM CHOY LEE FUT USES TO TEST OUT THEIR SKILLS BEYOND POINT FIGHTING. IF A STUDENT OF ANY STYLE CANNOT FIGHT WHILE WEARING GLOVES AND TO LIMITING RULES, THEN THE FIGHTING IS NO GOOD AT ALL. ALL KUNG FU IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON USING IT.
Wtf bro that's yosanklai. Not some Muay Thai guy. You follow this sport or not? Still enjoy the content. Way too much obsession with styles. It all comes down to well trained fighters or deluded larpers . Some styles have more larpers than others. But I know plenty of TKD and Kung Fu practitioners that cross train and spar full contact and they can be every bit as good as pure Muay Thai guys.
Don't agree, Franco Riggio was, clearly. Everyone was scared to fight him. The last person to try, was Stan the man Wilson and he was tough. Trust me, I know.
Hung Mok Choy Lee and Fut are the 5 family styles of shaolin. For chan heung's CLF it's hung, lee, and choy gar styles. For Cheung Hung Sing in Fut San its Lee Gar, Choy Lee Fut and the entire system of Fut Gar Kuen. In light of it, Fut Gar Kuen was te primary style that Cheung Hung Sing of Fut san fully completed. lee gar and choy lee fut he never got to complete
@FightCommentary It's most likely what Marco trains in! Buk Sing is the most effective style of CLF. The other one Hung Sing has 100s of forms whereas Buk Sing focus is on sparring.
@@Robert-rl7rd you got the WRONG hung Sing bro. IN CLF there are 3 Hung Sing branches. None of them have the same translation as the other. For example, all sound like Hung Sing but the first was Great Sage, 2nd is Great Victory. and 3rd is Strong Victory. Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut which means Northern Victory comes from the Great Victory school. its the Great Sage branch that has more forms than combat. Great Victory was and still is all about combat first.
In the first fight, the thing with fights with Thai, Muay Thai fighters is that most train since childhood they are incredibly resilent with impossible cardio. The Kung Fu guy was already mined and gassed, when he received that knee to the face.
You guys see CLF here? If you say so. It looks like every time a TMA goes full contact, it just turns into kickboxing. Might as well learn a style that trains that way from the start.
CLF trains like that from the start. There's a club in my town and they have separate days (twice a week?) where they only do hard sparring (kickboxing+throws) and other days for more traditional stuff, conditioning, something like crossfit, waving swords and halberds around and more relaxing meditative things (think quigong/tai chi). Some guys only come on the combat nights, some only do weapons, some are into everything. It's honestly pretty cool :)
@@dickbison That does sound cool. What I'm referring to are many of the more traditional techniques and movements that are distinctly CLF that you just never see when actually fighting- like the haymaker like swings, the arms spread far apart while striking, the deep stances, etc.
too bad that you were expecting MOVIE STYLE CHOY LEE FUT or FORMS STYLE CHOY LEE FUT. Choy Lee Fut NEVER needs outside approval to be effective, EVER. it just is.
Choy Ley Fut is a very good Southern Shaolin Kung Fu system and style. I’ve seen some really good CF fighters back in the day and just the level of training has changed. Their style is mostly long range. A lot of the really good traditional Southern Shaolin Kung Fu schools are mainly in the USA, UK and other Asian countries. China has been politically brainwashing the people there and totally watered down KF period. Only Sanshou is their strength. A lot of the real KF masters left the communism political leaders for that reason. Back in the day in the 70s-90s a lot of Hong Kong traditional Southern Kung Fu schools would beat Karate, Muay Thai and TKWD fighters. Many of the masters moved to the US and full contact fighters didnt hardly wear any pads and hardly and protective gear.
@@joeaverage8564 that’s a very great question. I personally saw a documentary about that a long time ago. I don’t know where that is. I love documentary but it details a famous Shanghai Northern Shaolin Kung Fu master name Fok Yuen Gap (Cantonese) and Hou Yun Je (Mandarin) The Fist of Fury or Fist of Legend is based off the master. The Fist of Fury showed his funeral. Buy you can Wikipedia him. He is a real person like Wong Fey Hung. His famous style is Northern long fist. There were very old news clippings that showed he challenged a RUssian wrestler to fight him. He had a school called Jing Woo or Ching Woo. It was to combine all Northern and Shaolin and Wu Tang Kung Fu styles together as a unity. He formed the Jing Woo Federation which they have a website and also is spread all over the world. The Jing Woo Federation that was in Shanghai, China which you can search for pictures of the school, was maintained by Fok Yuen Gap’s Older students. When the red guards started to punish all the traditional arts, many fled to South Asia, UK, Europe and America. There are books on Amazon but it’s very very hard because unfortunately, a lot of masters that were skillful past away. The new generation DONT want to think of martial arts because of money. Especially, the young Chinese generation. They were brought to be a Doctor, lawyer, Engineer or IT. Sorry for long winded story. But these masters were extremely fast and yes very powerful. You have to understand when you are tested and actually use the styles in actual combat and street fight it works but if you’re just doing forms and drills and don’t know how the application works it just sucks. The most famous Choy Ley Fut school and that is legit is YC Wong and Tat Mau Wong. Doc Fey Wong is legit. Only a few handful. Back in the day in the 60-80s Hong Kong KF schools were overrun by gang members and triads. That’s why you watch those movies of them killing each other is real. There’s always schools challenging each other on rooftops, which yes, Bruce Lee would get himself into on purpose. He always like to fight and used to be in a gang himself. This a lot of people don’t know. There are only a handful of good traditional Southern Shaolin Kung Fu schools left in America. You just gotta dig the lineage and see how they do forms and sparring
If you count all the the sytems that have been absorbed into CLF you are talking many different styles including various tai chi styles depending on the branch of CLF.
@@BFGalbraith74 CLF IS NOT BLENDED WITH TAI CHI AT ALL. NO ONE IN ANY BRANCH OF CLF HAS BLENDED TAI CHI WITH CLF HOWEVER THEY HAVE INCLUDED TAI CHI IN THEIR CURRICULUM BUT NEVER BLENDED. EVER.
Ou seja, existe sim, a esperança de ALGUNS ESTILOS de kung fu, se superarem. A maioria dos tradicionais, acabaram se modernizando. Ninguém mais, vai ander de espada, temos armas de fogo, Não existe so os treinamentos tradicionais, temos as academias com profissionais na área da Educação física ( personal trainners/ CREF) para auxiliar o treinamento, assim como as lutas... Ninguém vai fazer o estilo da garça voadora, pois vai levar um supapo na orelha, nem o Kata ou postura do karate no ringue... vai ser massacrado com certeza e ninguém vai fazer a postura fo Tony jaa, pous vai envergonhar os lutadores de Muay Thai. A maioria, trocaram o tradicional ( com uma certa resistência dos mestres chineses tradicionalistas, porém, com uma certa evolução) para o moderno. Muay Boram =Muay Thai Jujutsu= Jiujitsu Gracie Wushu Tradicional = Wushu Sanda/ Choy li fut....
Mesmo achando super importante, o cultivo da tradição, também detesto katis. Muito bom para suar( resistência) para ter uma ideia de combate ou para cultivar uma tradição, contudo, é muito chato, eu mesmo não gosto.
CLF was codified a long time before the Muay Thai rules were. It is known about what decade any CLF form was codified, and all that stuff he's doing was from before Thailand started promoting kickboxing as a national sport.
CLF was the only style that kept Muay Thai at bay in the 70s. Rest of the styles saw first round knock outs. Apparently, at that time, Thai fighters had trouble dealing with the CLF spinning kicks.
What a load of bullshit! Muay Boran and Muay Chaiya the old style of which where Muay Thai came from has spinning kicks so how is that possible that they had trouble with spinning kicks when it’s within their old style of marital art. Infact I would say they choy Lee fut would have had trouble against Muay Thai against their their knees, clinch and low kicks and power kicks cause it’s not someone common within kung fu. American kickboxing in its early day struggles against Muay Thai due to their legs kicks and their are RUclips videos to prove it and your saying choy Lee fut held their own ….It’s only common sense if you think about it if you want google Rick Roufus vs changpuak.. legendary fight
@@Andrew-qy1kz damn, you sound bitter as hell. So we're supposed to rely on your personal opinion of what you ASSUME truly happened in thailand against the clf FIGHTERS, HUH? you're that much of a martial art go to then huh? LMAO.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 just staying the obvious and history buddy! Unfortunately some people live in fantasy land. Each to their own. And you can actually see it yourself if you google it. Public knowledge.
@@Andrew-qy1kz all that matters is the individual that uses the style today n not rely on the rep of the past. we are not our elders. its ok tho, sleep on clf n i will lol when you get woken up
The Choy Ii fut guy is using kickboxing with the odd kung fu technique... its not what you practice in a chow li fut class.... He obviously spends a lot of time training kick boxing .. so can it even be called kung fu?
@@CoryPchajek But why bother learning a traditional martial art, when in order to fight you have to practice Kickboxing and ditch the traditional art. I practiced Kung fu when young, but questioned it when our black belts of over 10 years training , were all wiped out by Muay Thai fighters, who apparently were beginners of 6 months...
Sanda is already a hybrid system that’s maybe 70% Kungfu. In addition, Cung Le used a lot of western wrestling in his matches. Whereas Choy Li Fut is 100% Chinese Kungfu. But you’re right. If we’re going to count sanda, then Cung Le probably takes the cake.
Dude you talk so much you forget to breathe. Lol! And when you ramble it's nothing about the clip we're watching. Please incorporate your ramblings to the the video we're watching. Not your opinion.
author of said message is NOT a CLF student, disciple or fighter. Please ignore the lack of knowledge in such an errored comment from an outsider to CLF. Keep it moving
its quite clear you have no idea about CHOY LEE FUT in any sense. but still felt your comments held some type of weight. your vision is very narrow and shallow. good luck with that
what is wrong with kick boxing tho? everyone here seems to have a hate hard on for kick boxing. get in the ring with a kick boxer and leave the bjj at home, and see how you do against a good and aggressive kick boxer that aims to destroy you.
@@jonathanlambarena9754 wrestling Nissan just two people trying to pin one another. Ground fighting comes with the potential for leg and arm dislocation as well as ground and pound. Hahahhaa
Marco Tentori CLF matches links:
ruclips.net/video/h_xKOn5Ea5U/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/HGvsMYCYgc8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/32lCfnRyT9w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/oBiAKnXrWtU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/fYnUaqPj_l8/видео.html
chinesekungfu.com.au/marco-tentori/
Outro by Emm Bronte: ruclips.net/channel/UChEpiNavwpK-FFoYPVWk_pw
Team Lakay in one championship all have a wushu base. They're even south east asian games medalists.
Choy lay fut isn't too bad a martial art. It could do better if mix with some other arts though.
I forget who Augusta Fong??? some kung fu master mix it with hung gar and something else. If I'm correct?
@@SI-ln6tc no need to mix it. It's a complete system. Has everything hung gar has and more.
If he can master tiger and crene style and learn the Tiger tail sweep and curtwheel kick he can win the match
I want you to try to find a video of between a red sand martial artist and an MMA fighter another name for is cinebarre Palm
“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." - Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).
No, I'm pretty sure they lost.
@@timothyfreeman97 how are you so sure?
@@timothyfreeman97Bruce Lee didn't say "CLF is undefeated in Thailand." Winning any match in Thailand was impressive to Bruce Lee because no one in Wing Chun has ever been able to do it.
@Tah you dont understand kung fu training dont you? Those forms are not suposed to be used in fighting as they are made in forms. They are only forms.
@Tah grow up man
In Choy li fut, they promote sparring and competition. They promote improvements by mixing modern and traditional training methods together. I wish a good Choy li fut Sifu came to our country (Bangladesh[🇧🇩{বাংলাদেশ}]) and taught us authentic Choy li fut.
Finally! Finally someone says what I've been saying for years now: Choy Lee Fut is a mixed martial art!
As a CLF practicioner, I get really happy to see proven the effectivity of the style. Many styles work, as long as they are trained in proper way, having combat-focused training and sparring. That's the only way we can really see if it works or not, and I know that CLF, as well as some other chinese martial arts can be really effective.
Thanks, Jerry, great content as always 🙏🏻
Hi where so you find clf dojos?
I trained at the same CLF club as Marco in the 90s and remembered watching him hit the wooden dummies - they'd rock and buckle. Always stuck with me.
CLF is big on long movements, closing distance. You see that where he really extends the lead arm out far while moving forward fast. You also see it where he stuffs the lead in to press the opponent, and follow up with the punch from the rear. Both CLF and Hung Kuen press the opponent a lot with the lead arm while coming in for attack. CLF is big on haymaker, roundhouse punches, and there were several of those.
The wide, big punches of CLF can also modify as takedowns, and those came up a few times. He does a hook that doubles as a throw.
The reason people are saying they don't see any CLF is because CLF forms are practiced with really extreme stances, not at all close to what really happens in a fight. This is to build the coordination, perfect the move, build strength in the legs, and teach how to get the power from the torso - and exaggerate a lot on the angles. In a real fight, everything has to shorten up - but the moves are still there. Something that might be a full twist from horse stance to bow facing sideways is going to stay mostly in a forward boxing stance in a real fight and do a much shorter twist.
I have you on autoapprove. Really appreciate your in-depth comments!
100% spot on there, and I would add this is true of virtually all matrial arts... Tai Chi exaggerates fluidity and calmness... Karate exaggerates dynamic tension an exhaling at the point of impact... Wing Chun exaggerates precision and caution... Pakua exaggerates circular movement and flexibility... capoiera exaggerates constant movement and frequency of kicks... etc.
@Tah RE: "Your comment is nonsense"
Entitled to your opinion, but for the sake of being constructive, some specificity would be useful. I offered examples of the types of things I saw in the video which one also finds in CLF forms. I expanded upon the way forms practice and application changes. Which part of those are nonsense? Are the things I pointed out either not in CLF forms, or not in the video? Does the translation from forms practice to application not adapt in the way I describe? Or is there some other way that the comment is nonsense other than those possibilities?
@Tah those weren't the examples I gave. The rebuttal you offer thus far has yet to address my specific points.
What I referenced were moves I learned from CLF forms. If you want to call my point nonsense or fantasy, you need to actually refer to my specific points. And, again, are you saying those moves/techniques are not taught in CLF? Are you saying they are not evidenced in the video? You keep asserting I am incorrect, but have yet to indicate how.
You may be correct, but as of yet you have not provided a sufficient rebuttal.
@Tah before going further, do you a know any CLF forms, sets, or have you studied any CLF? If you have, then we can refer to material and I can explain what I think I see. If you have not, then I do not understand the authority by which you can assert the techniques are not there.
As far as advantage, etc., I don't see how that matters when asking whether or not someone learned something from a particular source. One may learn and apply something and either do well or not do well. It doesn't change where they learned it from.
Yod is one of the best muay thai guys out these, fights in ONE. Marco is Blake's sihing and they've trained together. My guess is his base is clf but he now trains mt exclusively just to stay competitive.
Thank You! for recognizing that man. He is extremely wellknown in the martial arts world. Surprised he didnt recognize him
Yodsanklai is retired
the boxing computer. mt legend. iv got two friends that have fought him ad lost
Please dont use acronyms. It is the fall of the human race. I dont like trying to decipher a sentence. Im old. Also its inconsiderate assuming everyone knows what random combination of letters you choose even mean.
From memory, Marco also trained with the late, great Alan Pond - who had a background in boxing, kickboxing and kung fu.
I believe he is now a striking coach at an MMA gym, not a Muay Thai guy.
I've seen this fight a few times already. I remembered Tentori giving Yod some trouble by using a southpaw stance, which causes Yod's favored (and brutally destructive) left middle kick to be less effective, by virtue of the close-stance matchup that closes down the angles of the rear-side attacks of each respective fighter.
Yod would tactically switch to orthodox in this fight, allowing him to use the right kick to attack Marco's open side with success.
But I had no idea Marco was a Buk Sing CLF fighter. This is actually really cool to discover. My striking background was Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut, Muay Thai, Kyokushin, and Boxing.
I feel so blessed to have been taught by teachers from the most combat-effective Chinese, Thai, Japanese, and Western striking arts.
I’ve studied Choy Li Ho Fut and unfortunately because of the rising crimeI’ve had to used it to defend myself. What I like about this Chinese martial art is that is extremely offensive you are taught to become the attacker. One of the most legit fighting Kung Fu styles out there.
People are commenting that “there was no CLF here” but the thing is, like every Kung Fu style, there are lineages, and all the bickering and random technique changes that comes with that…
Some lineages don’t even spar, while others do but insist CLF has to be done from a bladed, very Karate-like stance.
And others just use what’s basically a kickboxing stance. Heck, just check Lee Koon Hung’s book - it’s like, in the first or second chapter.
The thing is that (in my opinion) CLF “stances” aren’t really meant to be stances, but footwork. The step kickboxers use to throw body jabs? That’s what the horse stance is! The step a boxer may use to advance with a straight? Basically a bow stance! Cat stance is a retreating step, or putting weight on your rear leg to kick/check. Cross stance is used to throw spinning stuff. Etc etc.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Fucken thank you
It is hard for brainwashed people to accept, kung fu can be used in fighting. They put so much effort into this to promote their style
AS A COMBAT FOCUSED TEACHER, I AGREE WITH YOU
@@malakatan3235 If by "kung fu" you mean punching & kicking, yep, I saw some kung fu there, but if you mean any techniques you'd see in traditional kung fu forms, well, uhmm, where were they?
The hooks in CLF is known as Sow choi which is our version of a hook and we got over hands name kup choi. What I see here is that he does a lot of skipping kicks which is taught by CLF. Skipping kicks is a way that you can move forward with attacking with your lead leg.
They hit with not just the fist but the forearms. I think Hung Gar has similar overhand swinging strikes
On the Wikipedia page for Choy Li Fut it says that Bruce Lee has once said: "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost"
I really doubt brcue lee said that
Bruce Lee did say that
@@ryukuma1 doubt
@@ryukuma1 any other source? Other than wikipedia?
@@1individeo it is in the book called "bruce lee between wing chun and jeet kun do" in the page 67
Good stuff, always glad to see a kung fu brother doing justice to chinese martial arts. Awesome.
Been watching your videos for a while and it's crazy to see you break down Marco's fights. I've been lucky enough to have trained with him and been to a few of his fights. Thanks for the great videos cheers
Do you have any footage yourself? I’ll feature you too! There seems to be so much ignorance about CLF so I will gladly feature more CLF any time I get CLf footage!
@@FightCommentary I never trained CLF. I trained out of a Mauy Thai gym where Marco would come to train with my coach Alan Pond. Who also had a kungfu background, Alan recently passed away. But I have sent the link of your video through to one of Marcos pad men and training partner in hopes to help get you in touch with Marco
Choy Li Fut is obvious in the video. It's characterized by a fluidity and gracefulness that creates a crazy effective offense and defense. I'm so glad I chose this martial art.
The back fist is called gwa choi on choy lay fut
Thanks for the info!!
挂捶 in Mandarin characters if it makes it easy for Jerry
Yup! Blake uses them a lot too, I like his jab-gwa and gwa-straight combos. Both him and Marco also use sow choy a lot, which is the overhand/long hook (it can be thrown both ways)
@@animaster710 does Jerry only know Mandarin? I thought he knew Cantonese as well
@@javiersoriano671 both languages use basically the same script so you can kinda comprehend but not deeply nor speak what you are seeing
CLF is meant to be used bare knuckle or with minimal hand protection (like MMA gloves). That’s why you see so many UFC fighters getting caught with those heavy swinging strikes similar to what you see in CLF.
Choi Li Fut was named for the founder Chan Heung's three masters. Chan Yue Woo his uncle who taught him the Buddhist style that focuses on palm strikes. Li Yau San who thought him southern Shaolin the Li fist or long fist tequniques. And Choi Fook, who taught him northern Shaolin
@@lancehobbs8012 Lohan/arhat fist
Its a mixture of 3 kung fu styles.
The "Buddhist" style refers to Shaolin, and Chan Buddhism. But more specifically to the palm strikes which are used with in Choi Li Fut.
@@lancehobbs8012 CLF does not practice nor teach buddhism. However, our ancestors were from the Buddhist Shaolin Temple, hence the religion of our ancestors is why buddism is mentioned
I must say - this is one of my favourite stand up fights! It’s so good!!
why does choy lee fut looks like kickboxing when applied in combat? BECAUSE that is how it looks, we have kicks and punches, straight punches are called cheunnang choy, wide hooks aka wild haymakers aka overhands are called sow choy, wide punches hitting with the palm are cap choys, spinning back fist are dat choy, literally thats what every clf practicioners train constantly, what were you expecting to see? kung fu movie stuff? when you sparr you adapt what you know to combat, thats it.
@RAWSNL You don't learn how to use chinese weapons in kickboxing, eyepoking, heabutting, elbows, jointlocks, You don't have the tradition and (may I Say) cool Kung fu outfits, neither the cultural aspects as lion dance, traditional chinese medicine, Among other stuff; the fighting is only one aspect of Kung fu (one that most practitioners and Styles neglect, sadly).
You nailed it! I always wonder, why with Kung Fu-Fighters all are disappointed, that they kick and punch like other fighters, too
@RAWSNL BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN JUST FIGHTING INVOLVED WITH CHOY LEE FUT. WE HAVE CULTURE, LION DANCES, WEAPON'S TRAINING, TRAINING FAMILY, AND SO MIUCH MORE THAN PUTTING ON THE GLOVES AND FIGHT.
@RAWSNL EYE POKING OVER RATED OR NOT WORKS. ARE YOUR EYES INVULNERABLE TO DEAD ON EYE POKES? NOPE. THEREFORE STILL RELEVANT. PERIOD . cHINESE WEAPONS CAN TEAC YOU HOW TO USE EVERYDAY OBJECTS AT HAND SO THEREFORE STILL RELEVANT.
@@crystalfmaibach8582 WE ALL PUNCH AND KICK LIKE EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WE ALL ONLY HAVE TWO HANDS AND TWO FEET. ONLY THE LAME ARE THAT CLUELESS
The best king fu fighter ever would have to be Don the Dragon Wilson ….. your way off buddy! 82 fights 72 wins!
Nice to have quality video and a break from the cage
That sort of 'superman punch' kind of thing is a lot like the 'flying leopard fist' punch that his (and my) late Si Gung is seen using in videos. You also mentioned kicks that are similar to Muay Thai. Some examples here are things like 'deng gerk' which is a stabbing front kick which is like a MT teep. The 'barn gerk' is a shin kick to the opponent's leg that is a lot like MT leg kicks. That spinning back kick was a 'foo may gerk'.
Foo May Gerk..means Tiger Tail Leg-Kick.
Marco and Blake are from the Buk Sing branch of CLF, it also consist of Northern Shaolin. It's history starts at Master Tarm Sarm.
Cool, I'll check out Tarm Sarm. Thanks for the search term!
This intro is Excellent
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Good boi Venom
Good boi Venom
Very cool breakdown, very good fighter!I'd like to see more of this guy!
On it! He’s also going to be interviewed soon. I’m setting that up now!
Get an interview with him! This is the best kung fu display I've ever seen.
This Saturday!
@@FightCommentary hell yeah!!!
please, keap doing videos like this, you make my day better!
More Choy Li Fut to come! The fact that other Kungfu styles are talking so much trash in the comments makes me know what the real Kungfu style to feature is from now on
Jerry's opinions on Kung Fu changed so much since the beginning.
Leung Sheung started with Choy Lay Fut and Wong Sheung Leung with boxing. They were both fighters and made Wing Chun work because they already knew how to fight from their base fighting styles.
EDIT: i just looked up Marco’s bio and we trained in the same type of CLF!! There aren’t many of us out there- that was an awesome find.
Fun facts about some CLF styles (depending on how hard and modern they are): you condition your forearms like a Muay Thai fighter conditions their shins. You would whack your arms with another person or have someone hit your forearms with a wooden pole.
I think Kung fu gets a bad rep because of the cultural revolution limiting practice and evolution of all the styles. So you get what we see in a lot of your videos with masters in China. where do you find Kung fu styles that evolved? you’ll find some Kung Fu styles that actually spar and fight in the west! Like America, Canada, Australia, and parts of Europe. As that’s where they were able to grow! But they are rare as those generations are dying and the rules to start a new school are super strict.
I trained Bak Hsing CLF growing up and then Muay Thai after my Sifu died (rip). Our training was a mix of forms like what you’d expect with Kung Fu styles, sparring drills, and of course sparring. Conditioning we did on our own- which encouraged weights training and cardio. Transitioning to Muay Thai was an easy and fun process with the foundation I had!
That's awesome!
In Zora, Mb ITF tkd we had a drill of knocking arms. 3 count down up down. our style was specific towards aggressive counterblocking. Very interesting style.
Yodsanklai is one of Muay Thai's Living Legends you should check his fights out
Bro cant even pronounce his name dont expect from this kung fu nerd go watch Lawrence kenshin breakdown he is the best of breakdown commentators
Choy Li Fut is a great style, but hardly the 'first' mixed martial arts Kung Fu style. Lots of Kung Fu styles are based on previous Kung Fu styles. Praying Mantis has the hands of that insect, but the footwork of Monkey. Wing Chun was based on the best techniques of various styles; particularly Snake and Crane. Those are just two examples. :)
@BIGFOOOOOT YOU CAN BLAME COMMERCIALISM FOR THAT. REAL CHOY LEE FUT WOULD LEAVE BODIES BEHIND IF USED IN ITS TRUE PURPOSE.
@BIGFOOOOOT no sir. First, most martial arts became combat techniques. Nobody will be applying techniques of Kati (kung fu) of Kata (Karate) nor choreography of Korean fights like Pomsae (Tae Kwon Do). Muay Thai is not pure either, It suffered with the Burmese invasion (Lethwei/ Burmese fight) Indian (Kalarapaiatt...) and even other refugees around Siam (Thailand), suffered the influence of boxing due to clashes against the English . It's not that old, it was founded in the 20th century. Second, Kickboxing was founded by the Japanese master Noguch in the confrontation of Karate and Muay Thai (also in the 20th century), with Ring (Boxing) rules. Third, Wushu Sanda, was founded by researchers or masters, Chinese army officers, Physical Education teachers and others in the early 20th century as well. The Chinese fights, suffered with the Cultural Revolution, in the 70s, the fight was not defined the rule in fact, it was tried with iron and fire and today it is known as SANDA, this fight, there are several more efficient techniques of kung fu, being simplified, along with an ancient Chinese martial art such as Shuai Jiao and Soviet assistance with boxing. that is, no one will be giving a De tony jaa, Not like Daniel San like the Karate kid, and even less, sticking with your fingers like Praying Mantis or Jet Li's. Regardless of the fight, they are all together and mixed. Don't be like the others, repeating everything that others say, search for articles with bibliographic references and also search for the other side of the fight, because, keep saying the same thing (panda, propaganda, bla bla bla...) only makes you a pirate parrot. If you want to see some traditional style winning, I'll show you some, okay? Good afternoon!
@BIGFOOOOOT If so, everyone lied. One, that several MUAY THAI enthusiasts said that the fight has been around for more than 2000 years, however, some researchers said the opposite, that most spectacle fights are modern. If so, what about the masters of Shorinji KENPÔ (martial art based on kung fu) are they lying?, and the style of karate SHORIN Ryu (SHORIN = SHAOLIN IN CHINESE) the Teachers or masters of fighting, are they lying too? And TANG Soo Do(Korean martial art based on Chinese martial arts through the TANG Dynasty) are they also lying? There are a lot of uninformed things there. A good part of the styles of kung fu styles are obsolete and this is true, it does not mean that it is imitation, as most of them went through modernization, they are no longer MARTIAL (Swords, machetes, spears, bow and arrow...) to) to compete (rules, time, no illegal moves. just showing one side of the coin is not enough, you should see the other side of the rotten fights too, this is where I discriminate. because about Chinese techniques, I'm already lucid and not I'm deluded, but we must analyze (research, investigate) with caution, not to be unfair either. Some styles of kung fu do have their place in the Sun.
@BIGFOOOOOT Quite the contrary, irrelevant, that's what you're doing, there's a lot of bad news there. one is that fallacy in which they say that kung fu is not effective, it puts everything in the same bag, another is to think that it is an absolute truth in things, what we have, are only assumptions (which may be it), no FACTS, facts, it's when everything is recorded on videos and we weren't there to know. I base myself on bibliographical references, websites, and people qualified to deal with the subject in relation to the research and then I compare the 2 factors and draw conclusions, something that many do not do, due to prejudice, tantrums or lack of information. Let's put the dots on the i's.
@BIGFOOOOOT my English is weak, I apologize. It's just that there are some facts that count (common sense) about kung fu or other fights, that I'm taken aback, but at one point, it's right. there are no fights sportivized over 2000 years, everything has been renewed, there are all efficiencies and failures.
not only in choy lee fut, instead of high guard. in boxing there is a boxing style that use hands down too. Rely on quick reaction, foot work and head movement.
BTW because of the statement "Best Kung fu fighter ever" Don the dragon Wilson, wants to know your location
We analyzed Don back in the day: ruclips.net/video/pIylg7fBFPc/видео.html
I saw him use sow choy's and da chiy combinations, round punch and horizontal back fist as well as a variety of kicks we use, great fighter!
Thanks for the terms!
YO, this guy goes to the gym next to mine down in midland! Damn i should've one to that one
He lives in the same state as Blake, the other choy li fut guy on this channel
Do you have any footage of yourself training? I’ll feature you.
@@FightCommentary nah, I go to a gym next to it, my coach went to his gym. I don't actually know the guy unfortunately, just excited my city got mentioned 🤣
So, one Tai Chi fighter doesnt represent all of Kung Fu and all the fighters after all.
You mean kung fu fighters have someone to emulate so they can overall get better. Why get mad at that
@@AztecUnshaven I love your passion, but please correct that swear word right now or else I’m taking you off autoapprove.
@@AztecUnshaven thanks for helping!
Tai Chi is not the only martial art to come out of China. From what we've seen so far, Tai Chi is simply the most useless one, and that none can be useful without sparring. Choy Li Fut and even Wing Chun become very useful if the practitioner spars with resisting opponents. No word yet on what a Tai Chi practitioner who spars properly would look like in the ring.
SANDA IS A PLATFORM CHOY LEE FUT USES TO TEST OUT THEIR SKILLS BEYOND POINT FIGHTING OR THE STREET. SANDA HAS RULES IN HOW TO FIGHT, IF A STUDENT OF ANY STYLE CANNOT FIGHT WHILE WEARING GLOVES AND TO LIMITING RULES, THEN THE FIGHTING IS NO GOOD AT ALL. ALL KUNG FU IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON USING IT.
Preach my CLF brother 🙌
@@isaiahlightfoot6625 yes sir. thanks bro
Very interesting sequence at 2:23, both CLF and MT in south paw, CLF throws a cross that MT intercept with an inside stiff jab. Immediately MT double jabs and CLF shells. MT throws a low cross. CLF switches stance and throws a low jab which MT evades. CLF throws a jab cross which MT parries and evade. MT throws a jab which evades by stepping back to south paw and traps with what looks like a double tan sao only the contact is on the inside! (Yeah I some wing chun terminology. Not sure what that's called in CLF or even if it is part of CLF). Cool, but that left CLF open for a left elbow to the head. After that MT clinches, then posts with the right arm and delivers the finishing knee.
At 5:35 I see a looping hook immediately followed by a backfist! I see that a lot in CLF demos. I saw Israel Adesanya do that in a fight once as well as Demetrius "Mighty Mouse" Johnson do something similar in his most recent fight against Andriono Morenes. I think the backfist is under rated. Joe Rogan once criticized it as "not as powerful as an overhand." But that's missing the point. A backfist is a good follow up to an overhand. Being able to effectively strike from wherever your fist is gives one an edge.
It is not the first time historically that someone combined three syles into one. Yagyu shinkage ryu did so in the 16th century and for unarmed fighting ryoi shinto ryu and kito ryu did so in the 17th century. For Kito ryu that even (supposedly) included Chinese martial arts as well as Japanese. Anyway combing arts was very common in Japan historically.
If I remembered correctly, they never mention hung gar as acknowledging fut gar sort of covered that. Again, this is purely a here say from my early days of learning kung fu.
I've been reading other people say this too. I'm looking at Chinese sources and I think Fut Gar makes more sense. I'm going to ask Marco about this.
You should see Paul Vizio! He would be my choice as the best Kung Fu fighter to enter the ring.
what's that got to do with Choy Lee Fut?
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 It’s directly related to the title of this video.
paul vizio is a choly lee fut guy????? cause if he isn't a choy lee fut guy, NO ONE ASKED ABOUT NO PAUL VIZIO. in that case, paul vizio has nothing to do with the title of this video. at all.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 not Choy Li Fut, but Kung Fu. (Fu Jow Pai). That’s what the title of this video says. “The Best Kung Fu Fighter Ever”. I simply offered an alternative opinion regarding the best Kung fu fighter. Documented professional fights in the ring - Vizzio is obviously worth considering.
@@lincolnlawrence7703 oh so you're being selective with what you read, cause right after “The Best Kung Fu Fighter Ever” you seemd to overlook something. here is the REAL TITLE WITOUT BEING SELECTIVE. "The Best Kungfu Fighter Ever - Choy Li Fut Marco Tentori". so there's no need to talk about ANYONE ELSE. cause this video is not about kung fu in general, its about Choy Lee Fut's Marco Tentori. don't wanna hear about anyone else.
Came for the fight, stayed for education on when its cool to swap out "i" for a "y" in names. Do "v" vs "ph" next.
:)
I'm coming the realization that SO MaNY NOVICES think what Tantori's doing here is Kick Boxking is because THEY don't know CLF techniques at all. For example, Ping An Choy or eye level fist is very very very similar to a boxers jab. Put gloves on our hands, you don't get to see the shape of the fists, so you attribute things to "KICK BOXING". choy Lee Fut has its own teeps, its own set of elbow strikes, it's own knee strikes, its own hooking punches, its own upper cuts, spinning back fists, But since gloves on our hands disguises what we do, the NOVICES label it as KICK BOXING because these NOVICES only think Kung Fu is about hand or weapon forms training. They think our forms are how we fight. Yet, like so many novices, they are incorrect. i read all these commments and can't help but to laugh at the level of arrogance behind the comments because they're so wrong and without knowledge of true CLF and what we do.
Hes definitely great. Slightly disappointed I didn't get to see many CLF combos though. Like more flowy/momentum combos
Muay Thai vs Muay Thai!?
CLF is much older, more like CLF vs CLF.
the other day i nthe park i saw some cho li fat guys doing forms and shadow boxing. they were hitting hard. so i really apreciate thart more wu shu/Sanda/ wingchun guys are taking the training for teh ring. also Please make qi la la go vaping please .
So basically Sanda vs Muay Thai.
you weren't expexting movie style kung fu? were you
Yes
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 No, I meant that as a compliment. Anytime “Kung Fu” wins, it should be promoted as Sanda to raise Sanda’s popularity vs Muay Thai or Dutch Kickboxing.
@@tjsho417 Thing is sanda isn't separate from CLF. They have their own thing, I think it's simply called "Choi Lee Fut Sanda", very similar to regular sanda, but there's some differences in the rules. CLF is very rich, you can concentrate on different aspects of the art depending on your focus.
Kung fu is much older than Muay Thai or Sanda. So basically this was Kung Fu vs Kung Fu, is what you are saying.
not best ever, but best you've seen. he looks pretty average imo. there have been kung fu fighters who beat muay thai guys in the past. looks to me like the huge size advantage helped him lots.
PS: looks like on the records it says the muay thai guy won.
Please send me more footage. I’ll definitely take a look!
Yeah that’s right Yod beat him.
NIIIICE !
Bruce Lee didn't say "CLF is undefeated in Thailand." Winning any match in Thailand was impressive to Bruce Lee because no one in Wing Chun has ever been able to do it. CLF fighters had to train to fight Muay Thai because Wing Chun was far too low of a standard.
you are spreading misinformation Sir. Danny Glover ....bruce's friend and student wrote a book about bruce lee and that statement is found in said book. therefore your errored assertion that bruce lee did not say that at all, sounds like you are calling the late danny glover a liar. is that what you are attempting to do here?
5:36 wait, did the other guy retract his arm after punching, or did Tentori swat him away? I can't clearly see it, but it looks like Tentori swatted his arm away right?
Damn I know this guy. From Perth. Trains muay thai now pretty sure, but he had a awesome run, when he trained Kung fu.
That sucks that he trains Thai like everyone else he should have promoted CLF more
There were two styles of Chinese boxing that came to Thailand and left undefeated, 1 was choy li fut the other was a Yang style Taijiquan boxer. Even today Choy li fut and Taijiquan are greatly respected here in Thailand.
So interesting! Do you know the name of the Yang style fighter?
Aguante el Choy Lee Fut, en Argentina enseñó yo ese estilo
One good resource which could be used to analyze CLF training and technique is "Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu Complete Combat Theory Volume 1" by Sifu Chris Childs. Would love to see any of 10 elements of CLF identified as being used in the matches, as well as any of their 3 methods of power-generation (sinking, sliding, torque).
THANK YOU MY MAN! I was looking for somethign so that next time we look at Choy Lay FUt, I can just use the names when seeing them so that the audience knows "kickboxing" doesn't have a monopoly on ways to move the body ;)
@FightCommentary just wait till they all learn that kickboxing is a ruleset and not a style, it'll blow their little minds!
Fight IQ indeed.
“honorary chinese person” 😂😂😂
It buck sing style of choy Li Fut
I like that he said Choy Li Fut is the first mixed martial art. I've been saying that for years.
Well you have been wrong and way off buddy!
Pankration is and here is the information below about it -
Pankration (/pænˈkreɪtiɒn, -ˈkreɪʃən/; Greek: παγκράτιον) was a sporting event introduced into the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and was an empty-hand submission sport with few rules. The athletes used boxing and wrestling techniques, but also others, such as kicking, holds, joint-locks, and chokes on the ground, making it similar to modern mixed martial arts.[1] The term comes from the Greek παγκράτιον [paŋkrátion], meaning "all of power," from πᾶν (pan) "all" and κράτος (kratos) "strength, might, power."[2]
"All"Martial Arts are Mixed martial arts
We as humans only have two hands and two feet. There are only so many way we can use our bodies
@@mickgianola9321 ahh no it’s not buddy! Cause if that was the case you’d see more fighting similar to a MMA event when these types of traditional martial arts would spar. But the fact is you don’t! if you recall the old footage of these so called Kung Fu masters fighting in the old black and white clips there was no resemblance to MMA same goes to karats etc. Probably the closest would be pankration or some type of primitive Lethwei or Older style of Muay Thai or Muay Boran or Muay Chaiya. Where the rules are limited.
Martial arts don't have to look like modern MMA to be mixed. The creators of many, if not all Martial arts had more than one teacher, and combined what they learned into the system that they taught.
Feels like a kick boxer vs a Muay Thai. Guess the more Kung Fu fighters spar they end up becoming kick boxers x Muay Thai. Kind of like dutch kick boxers.
I don't really see any special Kung Fu techniques.
@@AztecUnshaven yeah, the “special” stuff. Too deadly fir the ring.
@@AztecUnshaven oh really? I guess that’s why they are so successful in bare knuckle fights and MMA.
special? like glowings hands or something?
@@AztecUnshaven yup
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 ya. I think the guy didn't even do one side kick, although kickboxing, Muay Thai has it too.
Thai fighters are small men who fight like big men, something to emulate
the thai is yodsanklai, a very good thai fighter that has fight many times in one championship. The thing is you can be as big as you want but still not guaranteed to beat him
If the other guy was throat singing he would've at least won the crowd over
Super meta!
You look like an Asian version of Floyd Mayweather wearing glasses when you shave your head like that.
That's awesome!
@@FightCommentary 😄😄😄😄
You should really react to all fights of Ehsan Shafiq
We did!
@@FightCommentary I'll make sure to check it out.. Did u react to his "vs kickboxer" fight btw?
I want this guy to fight Qi La La
That would be epic!
@@FightCommentary yessir it would. Also if you want someone to interview it would be really cool if you could get Ranton who is a ex Shaolin disciple and a RUclipsr to talk about the effectiveness of Shaolin martial arts ect
@@chrisdudedurian1305 I’ll reach out to Ranton soon.
What is better choy lee fut or sanda?
That's similar to the Tai Chi vs Sanda question, a lot of guys do both (all three actually.)
SANDA IS A PLATFORM CHOY LEE FUT USES TO TEST OUT THEIR SKILLS BEYOND POINT FIGHTING. IF A STUDENT OF ANY STYLE CANNOT FIGHT WHILE WEARING GLOVES AND TO LIMITING RULES, THEN THE FIGHTING IS NO GOOD AT ALL. ALL KUNG FU IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PERSON USING IT.
Wtf bro that's yosanklai. Not some Muay Thai guy. You follow this sport or not?
Still enjoy the content. Way too much obsession with styles. It all comes down to well trained fighters or deluded larpers .
Some styles have more larpers than others. But I know plenty of TKD and Kung Fu practitioners that cross train and spar full contact and they can be every bit as good as pure Muay Thai guys.
Don't agree, Franco Riggio was, clearly. Everyone was scared to fight him. The last person to try, was Stan the man Wilson and he was tough. Trust me, I know.
Choy Family Fist, Li Family Kicks and Fut (Buddhist) Family Palms.
What about 五家拳? 5 family style fist is also a mixture similar to choy li fat
Please send me some links! I would love to look more!
Hung Mok Choy Lee and Fut are the 5 family styles of shaolin. For chan heung's CLF it's hung, lee, and choy gar styles. For Cheung Hung Sing in Fut San its Lee Gar, Choy Lee Fut and the entire system of Fut Gar Kuen. In light of it, Fut Gar Kuen was te primary style that Cheung Hung Sing of Fut san fully completed. lee gar and choy lee fut he never got to complete
Buk Sing is the best. They only have 3 forms and the rest of the time they practice sparring.
I'll have to take a look.
@FightCommentary It's most likely what Marco trains in! Buk Sing is the most effective style of CLF. The other one Hung Sing has 100s of forms whereas Buk Sing focus is on sparring.
@@Robert-rl7rd you got the WRONG hung Sing bro. IN CLF there are 3 Hung Sing branches. None of them have the same translation as the other. For example, all sound like Hung Sing but the first was Great Sage, 2nd is Great Victory. and 3rd is Strong Victory. Buk Sing Choy Lee Fut which means Northern Victory comes from the Great Victory school. its the Great Sage branch that has more forms than combat. Great Victory was and still is all about combat first.
In the first fight, the thing with fights with Thai, Muay Thai fighters is that most train since childhood they are incredibly resilent with impossible cardio. The Kung Fu guy was already mined and gassed, when he received that knee to the face.
@@joeaverage8564 Yes it actually is a difference.
I did CLF for a few years. I don't see much here. He does spin, no sign of iron palm power...Our teacher used to practise on metal lampposts for fun.
WHY WOULD HE NEED IRON PALM POWER WHILE WEARING BOXING GLOVES?
You guys see CLF here? If you say so. It looks like every time a TMA goes full contact, it just turns into kickboxing. Might as well learn a style that trains that way from the start.
CLF trains like that from the start. There's a club in my town and they have separate days (twice a week?) where they only do hard sparring (kickboxing+throws) and other days for more traditional stuff, conditioning, something like crossfit, waving swords and halberds around and more relaxing meditative things (think quigong/tai chi). Some guys only come on the combat nights, some only do weapons, some are into everything. It's honestly pretty cool :)
@@dickbison That does sound cool. What I'm referring to are many of the more traditional techniques and movements that are distinctly CLF that you just never see when actually fighting- like the haymaker like swings, the arms spread far apart while striking, the deep stances, etc.
CLF has always been full contact, so I guess what you are really saying is how disapointed you are that Muay Thai is just a bunch of recycled kung fu.
@@BFGalbraith74 Surely you jest, considering to two look NOTHING alike when demonstrated side by side.
too bad that you were expecting MOVIE STYLE CHOY LEE FUT or FORMS STYLE CHOY LEE FUT. Choy Lee Fut NEVER needs outside approval to be effective, EVER. it just is.
Bro react to pencak dor from Indonesia...
Choy Ley Fut is a very good Southern Shaolin Kung Fu system and style. I’ve seen some really good CF fighters back in the day and just the level of training has changed. Their style is mostly long range. A lot of the really good traditional Southern Shaolin Kung Fu schools are mainly in the USA, UK and other Asian countries. China has been politically brainwashing the people there and totally watered down KF period. Only Sanshou is their strength. A lot of the real KF masters left the communism political leaders for that reason. Back in the day in the 70s-90s a lot of Hong Kong traditional Southern Kung Fu schools would beat Karate, Muay Thai and TKWD fighters. Many of the masters moved to the US and full contact fighters didnt hardly wear any pads and hardly and protective gear.
@@joeaverage8564 that’s a very great question. I personally saw a documentary about that a long time ago. I don’t know where that is. I love documentary but it details a famous Shanghai Northern Shaolin Kung Fu master name Fok Yuen Gap (Cantonese) and Hou Yun Je (Mandarin) The Fist of Fury or Fist of Legend is based off the master. The Fist of Fury showed his funeral. Buy you can Wikipedia him. He is a real person like Wong Fey Hung. His famous style is Northern long fist. There were very old news clippings that showed he challenged a RUssian wrestler to fight him. He had a school called Jing Woo or Ching Woo. It was to combine all Northern and Shaolin and Wu Tang Kung Fu styles together as a unity. He formed the Jing Woo Federation which they have a website and also is spread all over the world. The Jing Woo Federation that was in Shanghai, China which you can search for pictures of the school, was maintained by Fok Yuen Gap’s Older students. When the red guards started to punish all the traditional arts, many fled to South Asia, UK, Europe and America. There are books on Amazon but it’s very very hard because unfortunately, a lot of masters that were skillful past away. The new generation DONT want to think of martial arts because of money. Especially, the young Chinese generation. They were brought to be a Doctor, lawyer, Engineer or IT.
Sorry for long winded story. But these masters were extremely fast and yes very powerful. You have to understand when you are tested and actually use the styles in actual combat and street fight it works but if you’re just doing forms and drills and don’t know how the application works it just sucks.
The most famous Choy Ley Fut school and that is legit is YC Wong and Tat Mau Wong. Doc Fey Wong is legit. Only a few handful.
Back in the day in the 60-80s Hong Kong KF schools were overrun by gang members and triads. That’s why you watch those movies of them killing each other is real. There’s always schools challenging each other on rooftops, which yes, Bruce Lee would get himself into on purpose. He always like to fight and used to be in a gang himself. This a lot of people don’t know.
There are only a handful of good traditional Southern Shaolin Kung Fu schools left in America. You just gotta dig the lineage and see how they do forms and sparring
Choy lee fut is 5 styles not 3
Choi gar, Li gar and the last one, fut gar from a Buddhist monk.
If you count all the the sytems that have been absorbed into CLF you are talking many different styles including various tai chi styles depending on the branch of CLF.
@@BFGalbraith74 CLF IS NOT BLENDED WITH TAI CHI AT ALL. NO ONE IN ANY BRANCH OF CLF HAS BLENDED TAI CHI WITH CLF HOWEVER THEY HAVE INCLUDED TAI CHI IN THEIR CURRICULUM BUT NEVER BLENDED. EVER.
the kicks and some juices are good but the katis are a drug, if they summarized it would be a good combat modality.
Com o Kickboxing, foi a mesma coisa.. ( Karatê/ Muay Thai/ boxe= Kickboxing)
@@andersonalves1254 mas nesses casos eles prezam pelo combate pleno.
Ou seja, existe sim, a esperança de ALGUNS ESTILOS de kung fu, se superarem. A maioria dos tradicionais, acabaram se modernizando. Ninguém mais, vai ander de espada, temos armas de fogo, Não existe so os treinamentos tradicionais, temos as academias com profissionais na área da Educação física ( personal trainners/ CREF) para auxiliar o treinamento, assim como as lutas... Ninguém vai fazer o estilo da garça voadora, pois vai levar um supapo na orelha, nem o Kata ou postura do karate no ringue... vai ser massacrado com certeza e ninguém vai fazer a postura fo Tony jaa, pous vai envergonhar os lutadores de Muay Thai.
A maioria, trocaram o tradicional ( com uma certa resistência dos mestres chineses tradicionalistas, porém, com uma certa evolução) para o moderno.
Muay Boram =Muay Thai
Jujutsu= Jiujitsu Gracie
Wushu Tradicional = Wushu Sanda/ Choy li fut....
Mesmo achando super importante, o cultivo da tradição, também detesto katis. Muito bom para suar( resistência) para ter uma ideia de combate ou para cultivar uma tradição, contudo, é muito chato, eu mesmo não gosto.
@@andersonalves1254o que ocorreu foi que os praticantes de Kung Fu não entendem que precisa trazer elementos combativos importantes para o combate.
Choy lee fut is an EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE martial art next to MMA, it is the only one that beat the muay thai fighters in Thailand, THAT IS FACT
When you find a kungfu fighter who doesn't get knocked out in few seconds, you immediately say "best kungfu fighter ever". Hahahaha
@Tah Yodsanklai is not "low level" lol
But Wins!
According to Bruce Lee Chuy Luy Fut is the only Kung Fu Style that can go toe to toe against Muay Thai.
I thought Yi Long is the best Kungfu fighter ever, not "pure" Shaolin style though.
He has also challenged Muay Thai champions.
Still waiting for FighCommentaryBreakdowns to make a video about him
Yi Long is a Sanda fighter. The monk garb was just a gimmick
Yod is a monster, not to be messed with.
There was no clf in his style
what qualifies you to speak for clf? i don'r you practicing our art. so no one should pay heed to your commenr
There was, but you would have to know something about CLF to see it... mostly CLF.
Because Hung gar is from Southern Shaolin temple that got burned down by Qing government so Hung gar represents The southern shaolin so Buddha
The guy's a good fighter but he's not really using kung fu, it just kickboxing
Sorry where is choy lay fut it s thaï boxing
what are you looking for? movie scene techniques??
Why does he have a kick-boxing stance then ?
why does it matter what stance he uses? if it works, it works.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 it's not Choy Lee Fu, that's Bruce Lee philosophy. Be water my friend ...
@@davidemil8906 ironic that type of stance has been around before kick boxing
His background Come from kung fu ok, but there IS no 36ways to kick or punch , as i see he fights with muay thaï or kick boxing techniques.
CLF was codified a long time before the Muay Thai rules were. It is known about what decade any CLF form was codified, and all that stuff he's doing was from before Thailand started promoting kickboxing as a national sport.
@@BFGalbraith74 umm kickboxing isn’t Thailand national sport it’s Muay Thai.
CLF was the only style that kept Muay Thai at bay in the 70s. Rest of the styles saw first round knock outs.
Apparently, at that time, Thai fighters had trouble dealing with the CLF spinning kicks.
Very interesting!
What a load of bullshit! Muay Boran and Muay Chaiya the old style of which where Muay Thai came from has spinning kicks so how is that possible that they had trouble with spinning kicks when it’s within their old style of marital art. Infact I would say they choy Lee fut would have had trouble against Muay Thai against their their knees, clinch and low kicks and power kicks cause it’s not someone common within kung fu. American kickboxing in its early day struggles against Muay Thai due to their legs kicks and their are RUclips videos to prove it and your saying choy Lee fut held their own ….It’s only common sense if you think about it if you want google Rick Roufus vs changpuak.. legendary fight
@@Andrew-qy1kz damn, you sound bitter as hell. So we're supposed to rely on your personal opinion of what you ASSUME truly happened in thailand against the clf FIGHTERS, HUH? you're that much of a martial art go to then huh? LMAO.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 just staying the obvious and history buddy! Unfortunately some people live in fantasy land. Each to their own. And you can actually see it yourself if you google it. Public knowledge.
@@Andrew-qy1kz all that matters is the individual that uses the style today n not rely on the rep of the past. we are not our elders. its ok tho, sleep on clf n i will lol when you get woken up
The Choy Ii fut guy is using kickboxing with the odd kung fu technique... its not what you practice in a chow li fut class.... He obviously spends a lot of time training kick boxing .. so can it even be called kung fu?
It's the same as why is Sanda called Kung fu?
They just use northen wushu for the kicks with western boxing
@@CoryPchajek But why bother learning a traditional martial art, when in order to fight you have to practice Kickboxing and ditch the traditional art. I practiced Kung fu when young, but questioned it when our black belts of over 10 years training , were all wiped out by Muay Thai fighters, who apparently were beginners of 6 months...
CLF has looked like that for 200 years, unlike Muay Thai.
Not kung lee?
Sanda is already a hybrid system that’s maybe 70% Kungfu. In addition, Cung Le used a lot of western wrestling in his matches. Whereas Choy Li Fut is 100% Chinese Kungfu. But you’re right. If we’re going to count sanda, then Cung Le probably takes the cake.
Its Choy Lay Fut.....not foot. Say Fut. You are Chinese right? I practice this system, so say it correctly. No need to clinch with CLF kung fu.
Dude you talk so much you forget to breathe. Lol! And when you ramble it's nothing about the clip we're watching. Please incorporate your ramblings to the the video we're watching. Not your opinion.
No clf here, thanks for another clickbait title.
Tons of CLF, but you would have to have to know what CLF was to see it.
@@BFGalbraith74 you train in clf?
author of said message is NOT a CLF student, disciple or fighter. Please ignore the lack of knowledge in such an errored comment from an outsider to CLF. Keep it moving
He may be a Choy Li Fut practitioner, but you wouldn’t know that by watching him fight like any good pro kick boxer.
No, his style is tad apparent
once you know what to look for you can see a lot of CLF there
I was impressed by the punch from a long distance which close the distance very quickly
Forms that include those moves were codified a long time before the kickboxing rules were codified.
its quite clear you have no idea about CHOY LEE FUT in any sense. but still felt your comments held some type of weight. your vision is very narrow and shallow. good luck with that
I refuse to acknowledge any combat sport as MMA unless it has ground fighting. Otherwise it's just another form of kick boxing. 😆
I refuse to acknowledge ground fighting, id rather call it wrestling.
@@jonathanlambarena9754 meta
what is wrong with kick boxing tho? everyone here seems to have a hate hard on for kick boxing. get in the ring with a kick boxer and leave the bjj at home, and see how you do against a good and aggressive kick boxer that aims to destroy you.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 nothings wrong with kick boxing. It's freaking amazing. But I do not see as a Mixed marital arts.
@@jonathanlambarena9754 wrestling Nissan just two people trying to pin one another. Ground fighting comes with the potential for leg and arm dislocation as well as ground and pound. Hahahhaa
He eats too many punches to the face to my taste, but yeah, he definetly hard pressed his technique into a decent fighting style.