RZ50 owner for 1 year. Absolutely love it in my 5.1.4 system. Mostly SVS... Plenty of power. Zero issues. Great 2 channel listening, as well. Very happy! 👍
What avr did you have beforehand? I have a Yamaha rxv2085 and am considering going to a rz50 for DIRAC. But, I've been told by some it would be a downgrade and by others an upgrade..
I'm a die hard Yamaha fan when it comes to receivers. I have had nothing but Yamaha for the past 20 plus years. That doesn't mean I won't try out another brand at some point but so far the clarity that Yamaha receivers produce is what keeps me with them. Sound quality is more important to me than power with the receiver. You can always add more power but quality of the sound being produced is where it all starts in my opinion.
If you listen to Andrew Robinson he will do his best to try to convince you to buy the RZ50. but in reality? the RZ50 is not in the same league as the Yamaha. which is by FAR a better receiver on any scale. especially if you pick the Yamaha Advantage rx-a6a. even the a4a is still a better buy than the RZ50. many who review audio receivers get paid to promote them. Andrew Robinson is one of them. also, a significant factor is the build quality of the Yamaha. That's a receiver you can count on that will outlast the rest.
Thanks for the guidance. I've only owned a Yamaha before and it's been good. I had Warfdale speakers though. On the market for something new, I'm not brand loyal - what would you recommend in the Yamaha stable - on a mid-level budget? I don't want entry-level stuff, even though I'm a total noob at this - I know I don't want restrictions later.
My suggestion is. if you're a true audio enthusiast listen to Audioholic's detailed "deep dive" review of the Yamaha Advantage A6A. Highly recommended. ruclips.net/video/7X2jwQOsWkw/видео.html This is truly a pro receiver, even better than the new Marants Cinema 40. (which is a newer model) before buying a high-end receiver have a look inside. and the chassis. the weight and where the main power supply is located. btw. the rated RMS power of the A6A is 150. but it can reach 286 watts per channel when using 4-6 ohms speakers. if you don't want to spend that much money. choose the Yamaha RX-A4A. over the Onkyo. when Andrew Robinson did his pick of 5 best receivers for 2022-2023 He completely ignored the Yamama :) cause he gets paid to promote. most YT bers get paid to promote. they don't have the technical data and know-how. how to rate any receivers.
@@JadeB628 in his defense the A6A wasn't ready when he reviewed it.. Yamaha still didn't have VRR / 120hz or ALLM at the time he reviewed it as it was awaiting a firmware update. Making matters worse is this firmware update TOOK FOREVER !!!!!!.. I'm sure if he was to do an updated review the Yamaha would win hands down.
Just picked up the Yamaha RX-V6. My old Yamaha receiver still worked fine, lasted 20 years and got a lot of use I only upgraded because I need the HDMI 120hz options
I've been fortunate and lucky enough to get my hands on the beast Onkyo Tx-rz50- Absolutely Stunning performance. I paired up with my Paradigm towers and BIC America PL 200i Sub. It makes me feel amazing everytime I watch a Movie or Listen to Music- Loved it. Zero issues at all.
@@chaitanyasesh unreliable, prone to break down , quality inside... Just make sure you have a good guarantee, I would take a Yam or a Denon over a Onkyo any day
The Denon AVR x6700h is a beast. I love it. I have it set up in 7.2.4 and the sound and control of the sound is amazing! I upgraded from the Sony and I couldn't believe how much clearer and clean the sound was, especially at higher volumes. I heard sounds and lyrics I've never heard before. Both of my receivers were powering Klipsch Reference and Reference Premier speakers with no external amps.
I have the Denon AVR X6700H set up in 7.2.6. With two external Emotiva BasX power amps, A3 for the front 3, and A4 for side and rear surrounds, letting the X6700H power the 6 height channels. Sounds fantastic huge improvement on my previous 23 year old, 5.0.0 set up. I plan get the BasX A6 to power the height channels later this year and just run the X6700H as a processor, should last me for many years.
@John Bancroft I just added the Emotiva basx 3 for my front 3 channels and that alone made a huge difference. Thinking about adding the 4 channel for the remainder of my ear level speakers.
Changed 6700 to Yamaha A6A - Sound much better with my Dali Opticon MK2. I had got 2 receivers 6700 and A6A im my room same time. I made many tests and finally sold 6700.
Yamaha has not changed corporate ownership like so many of these other brands. I am super happy with my Yamaha RX-A4A. It replaced my old Yamaha receiver that lasted 20 years.
I have used Onkyo receivers since the 70s. Never had one fail. Only replaced as updates to video sources changed. Now I need an upgrade to the 4k 120Hz format.
@@persiancat5188 I haven't ever used Marantz so I cannot comment but they have a solid following. I hear their sound is warmer, you pay a lot more and the units run hot so that's just something to be aware.
Sony just released a beast caught everyone off gaurd and reviewers are raving about the 360 spacial audio. The AZ 7000 is on my short list for my next upgrade with its 13 powered channels!
Wow, excellent choices out there. I'm sold by the Denon, till I went and looked at the price (good grief) - might be a bit of a stretch on the budget. Any alternatives to recommend? How's the Denon AVC-x4700H 9.2 channel 8K AV Receiver in comparison to the 6700H?
I started with yamaha and switched to onkyo, bought two receivers and both quit on me quickly. Went back to yamaha and now own the rx-a8a. Not looking back, quality is what is important to me!
I used Yamaha RX-V385 for daily music listening and home theater, I want upgrade to Dolby Atmos and consider Yamaha RX-V6A or Denon S760H / S970H or X1700, x2600 Series. Some says Yamaha better for home theater and has natural sound while denon has warm tone, but denon has some features eg. siri, google, alexa integration, arghh... which one should I choose? any comment would be great appreciated... :)
Excuse me Sir, Which AV Receiver perform surround sound without surround speakers placement ? Sony's S-Force pro front surround, Yamaha's Cinema DSP virtual front surround, What about Denon ?
I own the Denon AVR-X6700H! It's definitely incredible! I cane from the avr 5700h!both very powerful but the 6700 has better video quality and way more options available! Can't go wrong with this one!
I have a denon had a onkyo and a newer aventage yamaha. The old denon and onkyo was better for music and movies and had way bettter bass management even though my yamaha cost way more and was a lot newer than the others.
Every brand are the best . It depends on individual when comes to listening. Each brand has its own sound characteristics , advantages and disadvantages when comes to features. Enjoy and happy listening .
These AV receivers are satellite 📡🛰️ receivers? Like 5.1 channels, 7.2 channels or 11.2.1 channels sound system really receive signal from satellite 🛰️📡?
I want to get an AVR but I refuse to buy one unless it's confirmed 48 Gbps. I know 48 Gbps isn't that prevalent right now but some things do support it e.g. Nvida RTX 3000 and 4000 and projectors as well as confirmed TVs launching this year and some older models from 2020 and I don't want to fork out a grand on an AVR that will need to be upgraded when the new spec becomes more ubiquitous so I'll just wait. At least if you get a 48 Gbps one then you'll likely be set for 5-10 years. I see getting a 40 Gbps one now as a waste of money if you foresee yourself needing 48 Gbps within the next year or two like I do for myself. My next question would be if anyone knows of any AVRs confirmed to support 48 Gbps??
40 vs 48 gbps is negligible. 10 bit panel vs 12 bit panel full RGB which, I don't care what anyone says, you can't see the difference with the naked eye. Pull the trigger on 40 gbps or wait for the next hdmi standard.
@@tragicanomaly1707 There is more to 48 Gbps than just 10 bit panel vs 12 bit panel and there will be even more in the future too. 4k 144hz for example. Point is whether its a year, 2 years, 3 years there will come a time when you will need the full 48 Gbps and I would rather hold my 1k for another year and get the new third gen chips which will be releasing in the not to distant future and that way I won't need to upgrade for at least 10+ years as opposed to dropping that money now and then having to upgrade again in 3 years or whatever. Everyone will have different preferences, circumstances, financial situations etc... that's just me, I'm not saying my way is the only right way but I know there are people that would agree with me. I have an RTX 4080 also and they support 48Gbps already. When they release the new PS and Xbox revisions e.g. PS5 Pro in the next year or 2 they will likely support 48 Gbps too. I think if you haven't already committed then you're better off waiting for future proof. Edit: There are just somethings in life you can just never have too much of and bandwidth is one of them.
@AZZomwhazz You are obviously are still an audio visual virgin, at least in experience. (I mean no offense) And I say this because all experienced hobbyist in this field, no there is no such thing as future proofing, it's just an illusion. We convince ourselves of this phenomenon to justify spending more on said item. The truth is the producers engineer their products for controlled obsolescence. That is how they continue to make money year after year.
I have one and it is indeed a beast!! I had an Onkyo RZ 820 and it had no issues either. I needed an upgrade to 5.1 4 and the RZ50 was a steal . I believe it went up 200 bucks shortly after I purchased mine.
They are excellent AMPS. I don't own one, know someone who does. It's quite nice, and is definitely audiophile territory performance. They just got it. I think it's the 21.
Not impressed with your list. Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz share parts as they are all under the same parent company. I’m in the market for one and doing research. You didn’t include Arcam, Anthem, NAD, and many others. You didn’t even discuss pairings with speakers or how they differ in their processing of signals. To me, this video sounded like you did a search on crutchfield and read off the specs of the ones at or under $2k.
Denon and Marantz are owned by Sound United, whereas Onkyo, Pioneer, and Integra are now owned by a joint venture between VOXX, (who's parent company is Premium Audio Company) and Sharp electronics.
SO, how do you pick a product when you don't actually buy and test ? Any channel that just has affiliate links hoping to snag a click isn't "legit" ...
It was 2007 when i bought Yamaha RX-V459 for 260€. In 2023 i got Denon AVR-S660H for 500€ bc of hdmi. I loved his design and options. But hdmi board died after a month. Even after 2 months, Denon never sent new parts so i got refund. Now im back to Yamaha RX-V459. Not sure what to buy... New Yamaha is very ugly and impedance is only 8ohms. Denon seems to have all options like earc,wifi, 6-8ohms, nice speaker terminals...Prices are ridiculous today and no spare parts !! I feel like i live in Russia and not Europe.
Denon and Marantz receivers and processors are too dark sounding to me. They roll off the high end too much. Yamaha units sound much better, imo. They also generally have a bit more detail, transparency, and fine resolution. I'm surprised this review suggests the Yamaha didn't handle music sources as well as the others. My ears tell me the opposite. Unless Yamaha has really dropped the ball with their most current line, in terms of sound quality, I find Denon and Marantz are 1 or probably 2 steps down. It's obvious they're chasing a so-called "warm" sound. It just doesn't work for me, at least as compared to Yamaha, or even Pioneer Elite.
Best decision I ever made was returning the £2,000 Denon 6500 for the arcam avr20. Nevermind the Denon was unable to make my high-end sonus Faber speakers sound their best. But when listening with the arcam and the movie sound Dynamics change. Mo more having to reach for the remote control 🥳
It's a matter of personal taste. I tried several different brands. I get what everyone likes in the Yamaha, but the high precision detail I hear in them, is a little too processed for my ears. I settled for the warmer sound of the Marantz. It sounded the best for me for two Channel listening, especially in Pure Direct Mode. But hey, it's a great time to be alive in this world of AVR's. Some guys like Chevy, some like Ford. And each individual gets to choose.
Denon sucks! The ones with audyssey are trash, I've had them, and they sounded very processed. Yamaha is the better one here, cause YPAO is impler to use and sounds better for music, but also better with the movies. Also, Denon tends to overheat a lot, I had the X2300W, which kept on a chair heated quickly, that too with only the 2 speakers hooked up (Left/RIght). Sold it and bought a Yamaha RX-A1080 and I'm much happier since 2020.
All receivers are largely rubbish these days. Too slow switching between inputs, and ARC still doesn't work properly. You can't even adjust treble and bass manually on most of them!! Its incredible how many millions of consumers buy AV Receivers and then quickly realise how many glitches there are with them.
To many bells & whistles! Keep it simple, it's about the music. My old Onkyo has been running non stop for 20 yrs. flawlessly. A recently added dac was a game changer.
Why isn’t the Sony 7000 series from the ES range not in this list , this is one of the best receivers of 2023 3 denon’s in the list is ridiculous and reeks of denon sponsoring Concluding : totally ridiculous and unrealistic test
There were plenty of Onkyo models that had bad HDMI boards. They were so bad, Onkyo had a program for sending them in and they would repair them. Thousands and thousands of them. Mine had the same dead HDMI but they said it wasn’t based on my serial number.
I had Denon, got into issues and service centre asked more price than the purchase price. Also with Denon I can’ t able watch movies peacefully. No clarity when it comes to watch movies: This jan 2023, I bought Yamaha rx v4A , I felt the sound clarity is too good. Now Denon feels like junk to me. Music also good with Yamaha. Denon was like Dum Dum Dum. Not high clarity in voice. Only bass bass !! I felt I made good choice by getting Yamaha instead of repairing Denon. Prices of Denon is increased by 3 times in India … 🫢🫢🫢
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RZ50 owner for 1 year. Absolutely love it in my 5.1.4 system. Mostly SVS... Plenty of power. Zero issues. Great 2 channel listening, as well. Very happy! 👍
What avr did you have beforehand? I have a Yamaha rxv2085 and am considering going to a rz50 for DIRAC. But, I've been told by some it would be a downgrade and by others an upgrade..
Do you have experience with denon? My denon x3700 just died, so im wondering how it compares?
I'm a die hard Yamaha fan when it comes to receivers. I have had nothing but Yamaha for the past 20 plus years. That doesn't mean I won't try out another brand at some point but so far the clarity that Yamaha receivers produce is what keeps me with them. Sound quality is more important to me than power with the receiver. You can always add more power but quality of the sound being produced is where it all starts in my opinion.
If you listen to Andrew Robinson he will do his best to try to convince you to buy the RZ50. but in reality? the RZ50 is not in the same league as the Yamaha. which is by FAR a better receiver on any scale. especially if you pick the Yamaha Advantage rx-a6a. even the a4a is still a better buy than the RZ50. many who review audio receivers get paid to promote them. Andrew Robinson is one of them. also, a significant factor is the build quality of the Yamaha. That's a receiver you can count on that will outlast the rest.
Thanks for the guidance. I've only owned a Yamaha before and it's been good. I had Warfdale speakers though. On the market for something new, I'm not brand loyal - what would you recommend in the Yamaha stable - on a mid-level budget? I don't want entry-level stuff, even though I'm a total noob at this - I know I don't want restrictions later.
My suggestion is. if you're a true audio enthusiast listen to Audioholic's detailed "deep dive" review of the Yamaha Advantage A6A. Highly recommended.
ruclips.net/video/7X2jwQOsWkw/видео.html
This is truly a pro receiver, even better than the new Marants Cinema 40. (which is a newer model)
before buying a high-end receiver have a look inside. and the chassis. the weight and where the main power supply is located.
btw. the rated RMS power of the A6A is 150. but it can reach 286 watts per channel when using 4-6 ohms speakers.
if you don't want to spend that much money. choose the Yamaha RX-A4A. over the Onkyo.
when Andrew Robinson did his pick of 5 best receivers for 2022-2023 He completely ignored the Yamama :) cause he gets paid to promote.
most YT bers get paid to promote. they don't have the technical data and know-how. how to rate any receivers.
@@JadeB628 in his defense the A6A wasn't ready when he reviewed it.. Yamaha still didn't have VRR / 120hz or ALLM at the time he reviewed it as it was awaiting a firmware update. Making matters worse is this firmware update TOOK FOREVER !!!!!!.. I'm sure if he was to do an updated review the Yamaha would win hands down.
I think Denon is suitable for long listening and superb vocals. Their sound is clean yet not attacking ears.
Just picked up the Yamaha RX-V6. My old Yamaha receiver still worked fine, lasted 20 years and got a lot of use I only upgraded because I need the HDMI 120hz options
i have had a kenwood for 30 yrs and still kicks ass paired with infinity loud speakers. Never been serviced !!!
I've been fortunate and lucky enough to
get my hands on the beast Onkyo Tx-rz50- Absolutely Stunning
performance. I paired up with my Paradigm towers and BIC America PL 200i Sub. It makes me feel amazing
everytime I watch a Movie or Listen to Music- Loved it. Zero issues at all.
But looks cheap inside, hope this helps
@@drewsmith6066 what are you referring to?
@@chaitanyasesh unreliable, prone to break down , quality inside... Just make sure you have a good guarantee, I would take a Yam or a Denon over a Onkyo any day
@@drewsmith6066 I bought the onkyo Rz50 and it broke within four months. I really regret it😢
@@persiancat5188 .... Got a Yamaha AV this end , had it about 9 years now and never had a problem 👍
Pioneer Elite completely overlooked.
Yes, best series out there atm
is there a specific model of the Pioneer Elite?
The Denon AVR x6700h is a beast. I love it. I have it set up in 7.2.4 and the sound and control of the sound is amazing! I upgraded from the Sony and I couldn't believe how much clearer and clean the sound was, especially at higher volumes. I heard sounds and lyrics I've never heard before. Both of my receivers were powering Klipsch Reference and Reference Premier speakers with no external amps.
I have Denon x2800h!
I have front speakers reference klipsche and dolby atmos rm 50's yeah!!
I have the Denon AVR X6700H set up in 7.2.6. With two external Emotiva BasX power amps, A3 for the front 3, and A4 for side and rear surrounds, letting the X6700H power the 6 height channels. Sounds fantastic huge improvement on my previous 23 year old, 5.0.0 set up. I plan get the BasX A6 to power the height channels later this year and just run the X6700H as a processor, should last me for many years.
@John Bancroft I just added the Emotiva basx 3 for my front 3 channels and that alone made a huge difference. Thinking about adding the 4 channel for the remainder of my ear level speakers.
Changed 6700 to Yamaha A6A - Sound much better with my Dali Opticon MK2. I had got 2 receivers 6700 and A6A im my room same time. I made many tests and finally sold 6700.
Yamaha has not changed corporate ownership like so many of these other brands. I am super happy with my Yamaha RX-A4A. It replaced my old Yamaha receiver that lasted 20 years.
The rz50 with Dirac is the best. There is Reason Denon is going to be offering dirac. It's just better
I have used Onkyo receivers since the 70s. Never had one fail. Only replaced as updates to video sources changed. Now I need an upgrade to the 4k 120Hz format.
Absolutely I've owned like 3 different onkyo stereo receiver's through a span of 4 decades and they've all stood the test of time🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Ehm, isn't the Marantz Cinema (40 to 70) series of A/V recievers the 2023 year models?
I've got the Yamaha A6A and it is incredible, especially now that the 4k gaming features are out
How about using it to listen to music? I want to buy one too.
@@persiancat5188 haven't done anything but watch movies and play games on it but it's so awesome
@@wking8 YAMAHA RX-A6A and Marantz Cinema 50, which one do you think sounds the best? I don’t know which one to buy🤔
@@persiancat5188 I haven't ever used Marantz so I cannot comment but they have a solid following. I hear their sound is warmer, you pay a lot more and the units run hot so that's just something to be aware.
@@wking8 Is the sound of the YAMAHA RX-A6A very bright? Is the sound clarity good? I think I will buy YAMAHA RX-A6A🥰
Sony just released a beast caught everyone off gaurd and reviewers are raving about the 360 spacial audio. The AZ 7000 is on my short list for my next upgrade with its 13 powered channels!
Sadly only in US, not in Europe
I'd give them a while to see what upgrades they include on future models.
@@thomasmoher9089 upgrades? I honestly would never use more than 13 channels… ever haha. That AVR is an absolute beast with solid power.
The best receiver is Technics,unfortunately they discontinued doing it, no one match Technics,it is unrivaled
I don’t what happened to Sony they used to be the best now not so much
I have had Denon, and Onkyo, neither of which beats the Yamaha RX-V6A. Coupled with the Tone Winner AD 8300 and SVS Speaker System, it all rocks!
Just bought the Yamaha A4A.
How does music sound?
Wow, excellent choices out there. I'm sold by the Denon, till I went and looked at the price (good grief) - might be a bit of a stretch on the budget. Any alternatives to recommend? How's the Denon AVC-x4700H 9.2 channel 8K AV Receiver in comparison to the 6700H?
Have been an Onkyo supporter since purchasing my first ProLogic receiver in the early 90s. Glad to see the RZ-50 so high on the list.
I have a Onkyo 7100 it's basically a RZ 50 with a little less power but if Denon would go to Dirac live they'd be number 1 all around.
Onkyo rz50 vs Denon AVR-X4700H which one is better???
My uncle Ned said if you want the best receiver money can buy, Buy an Apple receiver. So I bought a Macintosh amp and wow, just wow!
Buh dum tsss. 😂
@bootneylee9802 what's that now?
I started with yamaha and switched to onkyo, bought two receivers and both quit on me quickly. Went back to yamaha and now own the rx-a8a. Not looking back, quality is what is important to me!
Same. Onkyo broke quickly. My Denon died too less than 2 years. I now have a Marantz. Next will be McIntosh if the Marantz does not work out.
I have the denon AVR-X8500HA
I used Yamaha RX-V385 for daily music listening and home theater, I want upgrade to Dolby Atmos and consider Yamaha RX-V6A or Denon S760H / S970H or X1700, x2600 Series.
Some says Yamaha better for home theater and has natural sound while denon has warm tone, but denon has some features eg. siri, google, alexa integration, arghh... which one should I choose? any comment would be great appreciated... :)
Thanks for focussing on the advantages of each model
Yamaha will always be #1 for me.
I like my Yamaha -Outlaw - Klipsch system,9.4.6 room size 26Lx18Wx14H. Sounds like a real theatre. Cheers 🍻 Eh 😎
In the Onkyo RZ50 review. The two racks with the two shelves. Can you share the brand please?
Thanks! Great review btw.
I want to replace an Onkyo TX-NR828. Speakers, TV etc. stay the same. Which one would you recommend? Thanks.
Excuse me Sir, Which AV Receiver perform surround sound without surround speakers placement ?
Sony's S-Force pro front surround,
Yamaha's Cinema DSP virtual front surround,
What about Denon ?
Has the Yamaha heating issue? I do not want to buy a receiver who jumps in protection mode. Denon and Marantz are terrible
I own the Denon AVR-X6700H! It's definitely incredible! I cane from the avr 5700h!both very powerful but the 6700 has better video quality and way more options available! Can't go wrong with this one!
I have denon , happy with it
Which receiver is best for Bose acoustimass 10 Series 5
When you said Yamaha not as good for Music you lost me! Yamaha would be the best for music. And way better than Onkyo.
I have a denon had a onkyo and a newer aventage yamaha. The old denon and onkyo was better for music and movies and had way bettter bass management even though my yamaha cost way more and was a lot newer than the others.
I have high end Yamahas and they don’t dominate in music anymore. Not sure it ever really did.
Yamaha makes good musical instruments like for ever! Onkyo and Denon have always made av amplifiers for ever!
yamaha 3D sound exceptionally fantastic leader in hifi soundsystems
My old onkyo was the best for music, and like an idiot I upgraded. They’ve all sucked since…
I think you mean best mid priced AVRs
Some of them might class them as high end but they certainly don't produce a high-end sound!
Awesome information! Very informative
Nice video good graphics good Pace nice and tight keep it up
Yamaha all the way!!
Denon x2800h the best!
Believe me YAMAHA R-N2000A is the best of all👍🏼👍🏼
Every brand are the best . It depends on individual when comes to listening. Each brand has its own sound characteristics , advantages and disadvantages when comes to features. Enjoy and happy listening .
Denon is number one the best!
hdmi 2.1 4k/120hz problem in 2020 is fix now?
Why only use the supplied microphone with the Onkyo controller app?
These AV receivers are satellite 📡🛰️ receivers? Like 5.1 channels, 7.2 channels or 11.2.1 channels sound system really receive signal from satellite 🛰️📡?
Excellent bro , I want purchase the new AV Receiver, clear my view by your explain.
THANKS
Yamaha is the durable and reliable.
No other beats Sony ES
Yeah, my old Yamaha 250 two stroke, is what I learned to ride the trails on.
Do you have any statistics to support this or just personal experience? If so, how many Yamaha and other receivers have you owned?
Is it really not considering the Marantz SR 8015?
Denon 3800 or a used 4700 for the same price?
I want to get an AVR but I refuse to buy one unless it's confirmed 48 Gbps. I know 48 Gbps isn't that prevalent right now but some things do support it e.g. Nvida RTX 3000 and 4000 and projectors as well as confirmed TVs launching this year and some older models from 2020 and I don't want to fork out a grand on an AVR that will need to be upgraded when the new spec becomes more ubiquitous so I'll just wait. At least if you get a 48 Gbps one then you'll likely be set for 5-10 years. I see getting a 40 Gbps one now as a waste of money if you foresee yourself needing 48 Gbps within the next year or two like I do for myself. My next question would be if anyone knows of any AVRs confirmed to support 48 Gbps??
40 vs 48 gbps is negligible. 10 bit panel vs 12 bit panel full RGB which, I don't care what anyone says, you can't see the difference with the naked eye. Pull the trigger on 40 gbps or wait for the next hdmi standard.
@@tragicanomaly1707 There is more to 48 Gbps than just 10 bit panel vs 12 bit panel and there will be even more in the future too. 4k 144hz for example. Point is whether its a year, 2 years, 3 years there will come a time when you will need the full 48 Gbps and I would rather hold my 1k for another year and get the new third gen chips which will be releasing in the not to distant future and that way I won't need to upgrade for at least 10+ years as opposed to dropping that money now and then having to upgrade again in 3 years or whatever. Everyone will have different preferences, circumstances, financial situations etc... that's just me, I'm not saying my way is the only right way but I know there are people that would agree with me. I have an RTX 4080 also and they support 48Gbps already. When they release the new PS and Xbox revisions e.g. PS5 Pro in the next year or 2 they will likely support 48 Gbps too. I think if you haven't already committed then you're better off waiting for future proof.
Edit: There are just somethings in life you can just never have too much of and bandwidth is one of them.
@AZZomwhazz You are obviously are still an audio visual virgin, at least in experience. (I mean no offense) And I say this because all experienced hobbyist in this field, no there is no such thing as future proofing, it's just an illusion. We convince ourselves of this phenomenon to justify spending more on said item. The truth is the producers engineer their products for controlled obsolescence. That is how they continue to make money year after year.
It would have to be the Marantz AV stereo amplifier
Going with the rz50
I have one! It's a BEAST!!
I have one and it is indeed a beast!! I had an Onkyo RZ 820 and it had no issues either. I needed an upgrade to 5.1 4 and the RZ50 was a steal . I believe it went up 200 bucks shortly after I purchased mine.
No pre outs on half of them.. Absolutely ridiculous.
I BOUGHT A NEW DENON RECEIVER AND NICLELBACK STILL SUCKS !!
Marantz 6015 is not a 2023 receiver. Sony new 2023 line of receivers, STR-AZ7000ES/STR-AZ5000ES are not mentioned!
The Sony ES
I had tried DENON but finally returned it and got yamaha back. don‘t ask me why?
What do you think of Arcam .I have an avr20 ?
I want to know about ARCAM too!
They are excellent AMPS. I don't own one, know someone who does. It's quite nice, and is definitely audiophile territory performance. They just got it. I think it's the 21.
Not impressed with your list. Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz share parts as they are all under the same parent company. I’m in the market for one and doing research. You didn’t include Arcam, Anthem, NAD, and many others. You didn’t even discuss pairings with speakers or how they differ in their processing of signals. To me, this video sounded like you did a search on crutchfield and read off the specs of the ones at or under $2k.
Denon and Marantz are owned by Sound United, whereas Onkyo, Pioneer, and Integra are now owned by a joint venture between VOXX, (who's parent company is Premium Audio Company) and Sharp electronics.
Yamaha is the best receiver for music and movies.
But Yamahas don’t even have Auro 3D
@@JonMoralesLA A8A has, the only thing it doesn't have is IMAX Enhanced and DIRAC
@@JonMoralesLA Also A6A has Auro 3D
SO, how do you pick a product when you don't actually buy and test ? Any channel that just has affiliate links hoping to snag a click isn't "legit" ...
AVC-X6700H is the 8k amplifier not AVR-X6700H
IN BOTH CASES NICLELBACK STILL SUCKS !!
No love for Sony...? That's all I ever had.
Onkyo receiver repair location pls mention.
Fuck onkyo ! I took my 6 months old tx-nr6100 to the shop in my area and they did not even want to look at it 😒
Only out of business?
No there not
Sony STR-AZ7000ES
Marantz AV10 and AMP 10 ?
It was 2007 when i bought Yamaha RX-V459 for 260€. In 2023 i got Denon AVR-S660H for 500€ bc of hdmi. I loved his design and options. But hdmi board died after a month. Even after 2 months, Denon never sent new parts so i got refund. Now im back to Yamaha RX-V459. Not sure what to buy... New Yamaha is very ugly and impedance is only 8ohms. Denon seems to have all options like earc,wifi, 6-8ohms, nice speaker terminals...Prices are ridiculous today and no spare parts !! I feel like i live in Russia and not Europe.
Denon = the best
I think McIntosh is better
Whats up DENON X4700H ?
Denon and Marantz receivers and processors are too dark sounding to me. They roll off the high end too much. Yamaha units sound much better, imo. They also generally have a bit more detail, transparency, and fine resolution. I'm surprised this review suggests the Yamaha didn't handle music sources as well as the others. My ears tell me the opposite. Unless Yamaha has really dropped the ball with their most current line, in terms of sound quality, I find Denon and Marantz are 1 or probably 2 steps down. It's obvious they're chasing a so-called "warm" sound. It just doesn't work for me, at least as compared to Yamaha, or even Pioneer Elite.
Best decision I ever made was returning the £2,000 Denon 6500 for the arcam avr20. Nevermind the Denon was unable to make my high-end sonus Faber speakers sound their best. But when listening with the arcam and the movie sound Dynamics change. Mo more having to reach for the remote control 🥳
It's a matter of personal taste. I tried several different brands.
I get what everyone likes in the Yamaha, but the high precision detail I hear in them, is a little too processed for my ears. I settled for the warmer sound of the Marantz.
It sounded the best for me for two Channel listening, especially in Pure Direct Mode.
But hey, it's a great time to be alive in this world of AVR's.
Some guys like Chevy, some like Ford. And each individual gets to choose.
Denon sucks! The ones with audyssey are trash, I've had them, and they sounded very processed. Yamaha is the better one here, cause YPAO is impler to use and sounds better for music, but also better with the movies.
Also, Denon tends to overheat a lot, I had the X2300W, which kept on a chair heated quickly, that too with only the 2 speakers hooked up (Left/RIght). Sold it and bought a Yamaha RX-A1080 and I'm much happier since 2020.
I concur.
Yamaha strong! 💪
Is this a review or a Denon commercial? Where are the real specialists, Argon, Nad etc.?
Is Technique still in business?
They just came out with new models. I have 20 yr technics and it still delivers 😅
Yamaha.... !
All receivers are largely rubbish these days. Too slow switching between inputs, and ARC still doesn't work properly. You can't even adjust treble and bass manually on most of them!! Its incredible how many millions of consumers buy AV Receivers and then quickly realise how many glitches there are with them.
Rz50 all day long Dirac live
To many bells & whistles! Keep it simple, it's about the music. My old Onkyo has been running non stop for 20 yrs. flawlessly. A recently added dac was a game changer.
who's buying a multi-channels for music?? that's being dumb! better off just buying a stereo 2 channel amp at that point
What brand or model DAC did you add...? I was looking into them.
@@troy8736 The Schiit, nice little unit.
Marantz Cinema 50
I have an like Marantz. Next I will go McIntosh though.
Anthem
Why isn’t the Sony 7000 series from the ES range not in this list , this is one of the best receivers of 2023
3 denon’s in the list is ridiculous and reeks of denon sponsoring
Concluding : totally ridiculous and unrealistic test
Yamaha
your video just advertisements
Denon a1h and Dali epicon. 👍🏻
whats the denon like ?
Wow no pioneer
👍👍😎✌️🤟
What is with these lame so called reviews? It's just some person reading a script in a recording room laid on top of this video !
USELESS !!!
Onkyo has a lot of issues! I have one that only lasted for 6 months....on RUclips there's a lot of Onkyo owners asking for help. No thanks.!
The rz50?
I have never had an issue with my Onkyo receivers. Sorry you had problems but the Onkyo RZ 50 is the best av receiver you can buy in my opinion.
Depends on the model/series. I've had the Onkyo tx-nr 646 for 6 years and it still purrs like a kitten.
I have the Rz50 and it's great! Had an Onkyo previously for 7 years and no issues.
There were plenty of Onkyo models that had bad HDMI boards. They were so bad, Onkyo had a program for sending them in and they would repair them. Thousands and thousands of them. Mine had the same dead HDMI but they said it wasn’t based on my serial number.
Dennon is trash . I’ve never had a problem with Onkyo.
...to many speakers are not a option anymore...
We need something to hook all channels in 1 payroll speakers...
(To many speakers)
SONY NEW SERIES ROCKS!!!!
I had Denon, got into issues and service centre asked more price than the purchase price. Also with Denon I can’ t able watch movies peacefully. No clarity when it comes to watch movies:
This jan 2023, I bought Yamaha rx v4A , I felt the sound clarity is too good. Now Denon feels like junk to me. Music also good with Yamaha.
Denon was like Dum Dum Dum. Not high clarity in voice. Only bass bass !!
I felt I made good choice by getting Yamaha instead of repairing Denon.
Prices of Denon is increased by 3 times in India … 🫢🫢🫢
Anthem