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HistoricBattles I don't think it was the Greeks who fought with the Trojans because Achilles in the famous Hollywood film Troy Achilles says that he does not fight for the Greeks or rather for Greece so how could this have been a Greco-Trojan war. Why don't you tell the historical truth as it is and not give credit to your "Ancient Greece" That never existed. But tell who the Trojans really were and who they were with whom they fought. Tell the truth of the story even without giving the merits to "ancient Greece" Because the mind grows and the mind lies to the Greeks after history. So tell the truth exactly
Agamemnon’s wife, Clymistra, who cheated while Agamemnon was away, gave the King a nasty case of Clymidia, and thus historically was how the STD was officially named. This fun factoid would become the lore behind the infamous brand name “Trojan” condoms. The rubbers that keep us from getting “Clymidia” that we use to this very day!😀
Can't blame her. You'd be out for your husband's blood too, if he dupped your eldest daughter that she was to be married to Achilles when she was really being lured to go there to be sacrificed so that they can leave for troy with the gods' blessings.
Achilles was with his own men, i forgot their name but they sailed under black sails. They were sort of like a special forces unit that was undefeated in battle. Btw, this story is in the Bible or atleast most parts anyways.
@@paulyotzuar2788 I don’t know. I’ve only played the computer game. I have watched the movie but only when I was 4 or 5. And it was only the fight scene obviously. 😆
I always admired him when I read the book and watched the movie, I thought achilles and the Greeks were brutes. There was no good ending to the story where eveyone lives happily ever after.
@@princexl33840 How I remember, they had 2 Ajax: Ajax the Big, who was probably killed by Hector and Ajax the Small, who raped Cassandra. You can find that in Wikipedia, Illiad and Theogonia. But yes, Menelaus wasn't killed by Hector.
@@Чёртик-э3т the giant Ajax fought Hector and the duel ended with the two exchanging certain relics which I don't remember. Read the true story from Wikipedia, Hector never killed Ajax, it was just Hollywood sensationalism to boost sales and viewership.
Wish we knew more about what made hector ask legendary even before the Trojan war. What wars and battles did he fight in that helped Troy build its fame
History of past wars and battles are absolutely amazing and believe it or not these stories of past events are not lies because lying wasn't something taken lightly therefore these stories are 99.99% true. Would be awesome if we were incapable of lying. It would make us better people.
Achilles and the battle of Troy is a legend passed down, there's no historical record or significance other than a cool story and movie. Go to Athens and visit the Acropolis Museum.. ask about the battle of Troy and they'll tell you it's just a legend.
The Trojan war was in 652 BC, not 1184BC. Read Wilson and Blackett's books. Also, the Welsh and Gauls originated in Troy according to their ancient tradition. Brutus of Troy founded the nation of Britain!🏴🏴
In Wikipedia it is 1184 BC. Aeneas, the ancestor of Romulus and Remus who founded Rome in 753 BC, escaped Troy and was installed with his family in Lavinium and the Albalonga. So the ancestor of Romulus and Remus couldn't live after them, it is quite logical.
@@Чёртик-э3т But you're not "Quite logical". If you weren't so obtuse you would have realised that I was saying Wilson and Blackett have demolished the theory that the Trojan War was in 1180BC and shown proof in their book that it actually took place in 653BC. Listen and learn. Romulus and Remus were not real people, there is, however, substantial archaeological and second hand evidence that the Trojan War and the Trojans themselves were. There also exists the huge issue pointed out by Alan Wilson that if you place the Trojan War in the 12th century BC, you essentially place 500 years of nothing happening on the historical timeline, because then the timeline of events don't add up according to historical accounts. Do you understand that regurgitating biased mainstream narrative that you read on Goebbelspedia 10 minutes ago does not make you an intellectual?
@@Чёртик-э3т It is not known when Homer lived, or even if he really existed. Neither is there solid proof that he wrote the Iliad or the Odyssey, which both show signs of being composed orally over time.
@@Thebattler86 Yes, but in the sources they place Homer around this time. I know that Homer has lots of mysteries but from who else the Iliad and Odyssey come if not from him?
Great presented video upload , i like the graphic's and all the small details , there also was a 6-8 year GAP from 1202BC to 1194BC , And Achilles was 15/16 in 1202, so when they landed on the Trojan beach Achilles would of been aged 23/24, ready for that TEN YEAR Killing spree
Shot him dead with an arrow huh. How ab😢he hit his HEAL , ITS why its called the Achilles HEAL! Is this a retelling of the movie with Pitt? Sounds eerily like it, with much historical information not included no offense meant.
You’re misusing the term “outnumbered” which confused me at first until you made the mistake again. Outnumbered means to be numerically at a disadvantage. Outnumber means the opposite. Yes English is weird lol
You know I can never understand why some people would search for the Lost ancient Greek city of Atlantis and look for it in the Atlantic or even Pacific Ocean.
Probably should have proof read the script a little bit cuz there's some parts that don't make sense. Also this is clearly more based off the movie not the actual Iliad
Achilles died before they entered city, he dragged hectors body around the walls of troy a bunch of times. Then paris shot him from wall with an arrow guided by a god.
The Homeric heroes were so insanely similar to the Viking Jarls Viking heroes actually brought their skalds with them on campaigns to sing of their exploits
If the city of Troy exists, that why there are no roots for this city, we as a humans discovered many more archeological buildings older and 3500 years old. So, another fake news made by Greek writers 🙄 😒
jesus christ, do anyone even proof read this auto generated AI crap before making a video or even during editing? "The trojan's allies came to troy's aid with large armies, thus the trogans were greatly outnumbered." what?
Tea AND coffee? You trying to give me a heart attack? Lol. ALso, the Mediterannean? No they may have traded there but they didn't rule it. Alos the Hittites were NOT friends of the Mycenae.
Hi there, Just to flag up that the Historic Battles RUclips channel is linked to a channel that's actively producing content in Turkey. In Turkey, there's an idiom that goes "take your tea and coffee" because tea and coffee are special to Turks. There are a few translation errors in the video, but the main aim of the channel is to get people interested in history.
Fireworks in ancient time? Troy could win only if Hittit still strong 22:22 wait what is your source from saying Etruscans are mixture of Trojans and Sakas?
Hold on... Patroclus and Achilles were not cousins. They were good friends, best men, hetero life partners, possibly not so hetero life partners. Definitely not definitely homo lovers... But not cousins. Also, Achilles was dead long before the Trojan Horse was thought up, and was not in the horse when Troy decided to party. His son was though.
Why you say this lie ! Of course Albanian are old people in Europa older than greeks and All ! Lie to yourself ! All world knows that greek try to stole Albanian history @@Sickboy-oe4qf
Missed out the important one Vs one Duels of Achilles Vs Penthesilea Queen of the Amazon's and also the Great duel of Achilles Vs King Memnon of Ethiopius after Achilles killed Hector !!!!!!!!!
Looks like both the brothers got married with both cheater sisters. What an funny coincidence. Both sister cheated when their husbands were away from home.
What Greek army are you talking about. There was no Greece back 1184 bc. These guys were called Pellasgians . Achilles was not the commander and after all we still don't know where was Troy. Achilles looks like Brad Pit 😳 🤣
This period is known as ancient Greek history, which is why we refer to them as the Greeks in the video. Achilles is a king and every king is also a commander. You can also visit Turkey and see the ruins of the city of Troy. Thank you for your comment.
@@HistoricBattles I am Greek but the truth is that there was not Greece that time, you can not refer Greek because that land today is called Greece! the real Troy is not in Turkey, everyone knows that. Iliad mentions two rivers meeting each other. The place you are talking about there is no river and there is no trace that might have been that time! Read read read before you guys make such historical videos.
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HistoricBattles I don't think it was the Greeks who fought with the Trojans because Achilles in the famous Hollywood film Troy Achilles says that he does not fight for the Greeks or rather for Greece so how could this have been a Greco-Trojan war. Why don't you tell the historical truth as it is and not give credit to your "Ancient Greece" That never existed. But tell who the Trojans really were and who they were with whom they fought. Tell the truth of the story even without giving the merits to "ancient Greece" Because the mind grows and the mind lies to the Greeks after history. So tell the truth exactly
Hey can you please make videos on the Great Siege of Malta, First Russo-Turkish War, Russo-Kazan War and Russo-Crimean War.
Someone explain to this guy not to make history videos according to the movies but according to the history writing's.
Was about to post the same thing. I mean come on !!
Is history ur talking the greek literature...?
He got so much wrong and historical and archeological evidence made me think this guy was on one.
I noticed that too. A 10 year conflict, read like Brad Pitt Flick. So obvious, glad others see it too.
Who cares it's interesting
Agamemnon’s wife, Clymistra, who cheated while Agamemnon was away, gave the King a nasty case of Clymidia, and thus historically was how the STD was officially named. This fun factoid would become the lore behind the infamous brand name “Trojan” condoms. The rubbers that keep us from getting “Clymidia” that we use to this very day!😀
Can't blame her. You'd be out for your husband's blood too, if he dupped your eldest daughter that she was to be married to Achilles when she was really being lured to go there to be sacrificed so that they can leave for troy with the gods' blessings.
@@jaydendrelinger4304 🤦🏻♂️ *groan*
As far as I know the Greek army was NOT lead by Achilles. There were other leaders. Achilles was just an HERO.
Lead. But not commanded. He was there hero. And lead from the front. But the king Commanded the army
Achilles was with his own men, i forgot their name but they sailed under black sails. They were sort of like a special forces unit that was undefeated in battle. Btw, this story is in the Bible or atleast most parts anyways.
@@syrsknight The men Achilles commanded were the Myrmidons.
He’s going off of the movie
@syrsknight where in the Bible is achilles mentioned? Cause only Alexander The Great is mentioned in the book of Daniel.
This is from the movies and not from the iliad...
Yes, i was thinking the samething..
Bro this stroy already on the movie call troy 💀
So Hector was the good guy all along.
Did you not watch the movie? When was Hector ever the bad guy
@@paulyotzuar2788 I don’t know. I’ve only played the computer game. I have watched the movie but only when I was 4 or 5. And it was only the fight scene obviously. 😆
I always admired him when I read the book and watched the movie, I thought achilles and the Greeks were brutes. There was no good ending to the story where eveyone lives happily ever after.
@@HistoryWithD-n9y Achilles isn’t really the bad guy either. It’s the kings.
That means this war was real and not a myth.
Hector's son was not killed, but captured with his mother in Epirus ( Tragedy named "Andromaque" written by Jean Racine).
Brilliant video! thanks for the upload!
Good narration...i didn't know the origin of the trojan war
it's not - this is BS
Отличное видео, спасибо.
Всегда был за Гектора
18:15 - 18:23
“Shortly after this, the Trojan allies came to Troy’s aid with large armies. Thus, Trojans were greatly outnumbered.”
This video is good but have got so much wrong, from the writings , BUT THIS IS SO SO Much more based on the FILM TROY of 2005 with Brad Pitt
The movie troy made exaggerations:
Hector killing Ajax
Menalaus killed by Hector.
Yeah right off the bat he mentions the Greek army led by Achilles when it was led by agamenon 😂😂
@@princexl33840 How I remember, they had 2 Ajax: Ajax the Big, who was probably killed by Hector and Ajax the Small, who raped Cassandra. You can find that in Wikipedia, Illiad and Theogonia. But yes, Menelaus wasn't killed by Hector.
@@Чёртик-э3т the giant Ajax fought Hector and the duel ended with the two exchanging certain relics which I don't remember. Read the true story from Wikipedia, Hector never killed Ajax, it was just Hollywood sensationalism to boost sales and viewership.
Can you make a video about 30 years war
Wish we knew more about what made hector ask legendary even before the Trojan war. What wars and battles did he fight in that helped Troy build its fame
There was other book but all were lost in time
It's more to 1250 BCE to 1300 BCE at that.
Amazing video!
Good video I love it❤
This war was more than a decade long instead of the three or four days like the Hollywood Version....
Very riveting and touching videos, the schools should use this in classrooms.
Achilles aint even half the half the half the half the half of what Alexander was as a great general.
It's more like 1270bc when aganimnon got all things to gether , when he was @ his strongest ,then going forword !!
The Trojan Horse event is NOT in Homer's "Iliad" but in Virgil's "Aeneid."
Very wrong information..
What is wrong
@@TheCytb not based on homers ilaid
@sarp4919 this is the historical account not the mythical one
@@KingKyle_1996historians can’t even confirm if Troy existed, as well as any of these mythical characters, this is all theory
@errolrohrbach6013 by historical I mean the illiads and how they described it Troy is still a mystery
I felt like I learnt more than I came here for❤
Great ending with Rome...truly mindblowing the power it had
History of past wars and battles are absolutely amazing and believe it or not these stories of past events are not lies because lying wasn't something taken lightly therefore these stories are 99.99% true. Would be awesome if we were incapable of lying. It would make us better people.
achilles was not ang leader but a warrior soldier agammenon is the king of greeks.
Achilles and the battle of Troy is a legend passed down, there's no historical record or significance other than a cool story and movie.
Go to Athens and visit the Acropolis Museum.. ask about the battle of Troy and they'll tell you it's just a legend.
Thessaly and Mirmidones were the kingdom of Achilles.
It was a separate Kingdom.
7.54 what is the name this music ?
Very interested better than movie Helen of Troy or Troy
Trojan War ❌
Troy ✅
The Trojan war was in 652 BC, not 1184BC. Read Wilson and Blackett's books. Also, the Welsh and Gauls originated in Troy according to their ancient tradition. Brutus of Troy founded the nation of Britain!🏴🏴
In Wikipedia it is 1184 BC. Aeneas, the ancestor of Romulus and Remus who founded Rome in 753 BC, escaped Troy and was installed with his family in Lavinium and the Albalonga. So the ancestor of Romulus and Remus couldn't live after them, it is quite logical.
@@Чёртик-э3т But you're not "Quite logical". If you weren't so obtuse you would have realised that I was saying Wilson and Blackett have demolished the theory that the Trojan War was in 1180BC and shown proof in their book that it actually took place in 653BC. Listen and learn. Romulus and Remus were not real people, there is, however, substantial archaeological and second hand evidence that the Trojan War and the Trojans themselves were. There also exists the huge issue pointed out by Alan Wilson that if you place the Trojan War in the 12th century BC, you essentially place 500 years of nothing happening on the historical timeline, because then the timeline of events don't add up according to historical accounts. Do you understand that regurgitating biased mainstream narrative that you read on Goebbelspedia 10 minutes ago does not make you an intellectual?
And when Homer wrote and told Illiad and Odyssey, it was in the 8th century BC, while 652 BC is in the 7th century BC.
@@Чёртик-э3т It is not known when Homer lived, or even if he really existed. Neither is there solid proof that he wrote the Iliad or the Odyssey, which both show signs of being composed orally over time.
@@Thebattler86 Yes, but in the sources they place Homer around this time. I know that Homer has lots of mysteries but from who else the Iliad and Odyssey come if not from him?
So that's makes sense why the Roman Empire is suddenly rise because they have the two lineage Trojan and hitite
Wow hello love your video i watch so many historical war channels but your careful teaching is super love it
Great presented video upload , i like the graphic's and all the small details , there also was a 6-8 year GAP from 1202BC to 1194BC , And Achilles was 15/16 in 1202, so when they landed on the Trojan beach Achilles would of been aged 23/24, ready for that TEN YEAR Killing spree
This is just a summary of the Iliad and Quintus Smyrnaeus
Shot him dead with an arrow huh. How ab😢he hit his HEAL , ITS why its called the Achilles HEAL! Is this a retelling of the movie with Pitt? Sounds eerily like it, with much historical information not included no offense meant.
Think you AI chatbox is giving incorrect narrations? 18:24
You’re misusing the term “outnumbered” which confused me at first until you made the mistake again. Outnumbered means to be numerically at a disadvantage. Outnumber means the opposite. Yes English is weird lol
This video was based both on the Iliad and The Movie
Please read the Illiad the army was not lead by Achilles it was led by Agamemnon and his brother Menelaus
You know I can never understand why some people would search for the Lost ancient Greek city of Atlantis and look for it in the Atlantic or even Pacific Ocean.
Lesson, never accept a giant wooden horse as a gift, especially a hollow one with giggling men inside.
Did you watch the movie Troy before making this video???
These comments sound so firm on this episode. Wonder just how they come up with these conclusions ??
Ok now i understand why Romans called themselves descendants of Trojans and legendary Hector.
All because of the Golden Apple
Not many know the story of the Golden apple
Probably should have proof read the script a little bit cuz there's some parts that don't make sense.
Also this is clearly more based off the movie not the actual Iliad
Achilles died before they entered city, he dragged hectors body around the walls of troy a bunch of times. Then paris shot him from wall with an arrow guided by a god.
So when I go to Italy I meet Trojans! Wow I want to go Italy now!!
Can anyone explain to me where the name Troy it comes from ?
Greece at that time wasn't part of the west, it was part of the civilised east, there was no known west at that time.
The Homeric heroes were so insanely similar to the Viking Jarls
Viking heroes actually brought their skalds with them on campaigns to sing of their exploits
I think you forgot where Troy is
The greek army was led by Agamemnon and his brother Menelaus
thats not the real story wtf
@@keithalanisbell8046 no dummy, there is an accepted concencus about what happened, thats not it
Hector was wise and philosophical
Wrong. Achilles was killed on door when he was trading gold for hectors body
Just think everyone thousands of years from now it will be videos about us
Τhe trojan war happened on 1229-1219 BC.
Cliff notes to Troy?
This is the CK3 bronze mod isn’t it
1200 bc.population was none almost. On any land. It happens that Greece war more populated then others.
Why do you people insist on calling at Greece? It was a bunch of city states? They. Did what they wanted to do.😢
The background music and the calmness of the narrators voice was so heart touching
Trojan war older than king Solomon ?
What is a Teruvian?
😂😂😂where do you know where Troy is located? archaeologists are still not sure where it is, and do you know?
Bro it was around that lands and they controlled the straights the exact location on the video is just an estimate to explain things better
@@ΓΕΩΡΓΙΑΜΙΧΑΛΑΚΑ mmmmm yes yes moderate lies
Wait this wasn't about condoms ?
As told by Hollywood.
70% of this video are incorrect! Man you describe the movie
If the city of Troy exists, that why there are no roots for this city, we as a humans discovered many more archeological buildings older and 3500 years old.
So, another fake news made by Greek writers 🙄 😒
Keep dreaming Analbanian with zero history and cry some more.
That mean the Trojan war was real, does the Greek gods really took part in this war. I thought it was a myth.😂😂😂😂
This is more commonly known as the war of the condoms. Trojan won.
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This story is a myth. There is no actual historical records of a king named “Agamemnon”.
Too many inaccuracies. Did you just watch the movie and decided to make a YT video?
Hello brother! May i ask what inaccuracies the author did in this video?
@@commissargab6181No reply, talk about talking BS.
@@Alex-pj8nz Damn ur right 😆 i was actually curious what did the author do that make this video have to many "inaccuracies"
It's just retold the movie. This video should've be categorized as history. It's a movie synopsis.
So it means the real reason why in the first place the trojan war started because of an affair it's really make sense now
It's not like that..the Trojans and Spartans already had rivalry over the agean sea the Greeks just needed a reason to justify their war
jesus christ, do anyone even proof read this auto generated AI crap before making a video or even during editing?
"The trojan's allies came to troy's aid with large armies, thus the trogans were greatly outnumbered." what?
🎉🎉🎉
Tea AND coffee? You trying to give me a heart attack? Lol. ALso, the Mediterannean? No they may have traded there but they didn't rule it. Alos the Hittites were NOT friends of the Mycenae.
Hi there,
Just to flag up that the Historic Battles RUclips channel is linked to a channel that's actively producing content in Turkey. In Turkey, there's an idiom that goes "take your tea and coffee" because tea and coffee are special to Turks. There are a few translation errors in the video, but the main aim of the channel is to get people interested in history.
Fireworks in ancient time? Troy could win only if Hittit still strong 22:22 wait what is your source from saying Etruscans are mixture of Trojans and Sakas?
This is just story from Homerus Iliad.
Hold on... Patroclus and Achilles were not cousins. They were good friends, best men, hetero life partners, possibly not so hetero life partners. Definitely not definitely homo lovers... But not cousins. Also, Achilles was dead long before the Trojan Horse was thought up, and was not in the horse when Troy decided to party. His son was though.
Bu bizim kanalımız çalıyorsun
Weird video... The historical context is correct, but the facts are based on the Iliad (myth)...good video anyway
Achille, Akili it's not a Greek name, Akili it's Ilirain name not a Greek name , ilyrian name not Greek name, Fake news Mr..
Its 100% Greek name,keep coping and crying.Analbanians dont have history they are not Illyrians.
There is no such thing as Analbanian names back then,Albos are not ancient people.
Why you say this lie ! Of course Albanian are old people in Europa older than greeks and All ! Lie to yourself ! All world knows that greek try to stole Albanian history @@Sickboy-oe4qf
@@Sickboy-oe4qf in fact that is an Ilyrian name. You can google Achilles says that was different than Greek. He was Pelasgians
@@Koustas007 He was Greek 100%,and Illyrians are not Analbanians.
They were both greeks the spoke the same language the had the same gods they had the same costumes
Halloween party?
The Greek army was ruled by Agamennon. This story is NOT in ther Bible but in Iliade and Odyssea.
Gotta love Homer
I don’t think you know what “outnumbered” means lol
Missed out the important one Vs one Duels of Achilles Vs Penthesilea Queen of the Amazon's and also the Great duel of Achilles Vs King Memnon of Ethiopius after Achilles killed Hector !!!!!!!!!
This is bs and based off the movie, Patroclus wasn’t Achilles cousin he was his lover. None of the abs in 300 are real either.
10:50 map
there were no greek at time!
And what they are??? 😅😅😅
Yes there were
Looks like both the brothers got married with both cheater sisters. What an funny coincidence. Both sister cheated when their husbands were away from home.
What Greek army are you talking about. There was no Greece back 1184 bc. These guys were called Pellasgians . Achilles was not the commander and after all we still don't know where was Troy. Achilles looks like Brad Pit 😳 🤣
This period is known as ancient Greek history, which is why we refer to them as the Greeks in the video. Achilles is a king and every king is also a commander. You can also visit Turkey and see the ruins of the city of Troy. Thank you for your comment.
Jealous much poor Analbanian?
@@HistoricBattles I am Greek but the truth is that there was not Greece that time, you can not refer Greek because that land today is called Greece! the real Troy is not in Turkey, everyone knows that. Iliad mentions two rivers meeting each other. The place you are talking about there is no river and there is no trace that might have been that time! Read read read before you guys make such historical videos.
@@Koustas007 You are not Greek lol.
@@Sickboy-oe4qf yes I am authoctonous Greek Arvanitas as the majority of Greece is. The rest is Bulgarian, Turks and Vlachs
Yes im rigth that the decesdance of roman empire is from the trojans people..