I've had the vinyl start coming loose and peeling up on two. They replaced the first one under warranty (with an X4S), and now the new one just started peeling up on the back corner. So each has lasted about 3 years. I'll probably try to glue it back down, otherwise I still like it.
The "felts" came loose on mine after it was out of warranty. I took the whole cover off, flipped it upside down, applied construction adhesive, and put back the felts. It's held for at least three years.
I work construction and have the same cover for five years. Open and close daily, Texas heat, Texas hail storm, you name it. Zero issues. I find it strange you got a defective product repeatedly.
I had his same experience, although in my case I went through 3 before getting the new model. I live in Arizona, and the bed cover actual temp in the middle of the summer is often over 190 degrees, and the adhesive they used on that felt wasn't a high temp adhesive.
Great, honest review. Even with the 5 year warranty, full replacement is off the table after the 5 years. I had two X2's fall completely apart in 6 years, and with my latest completely disintegrated, best they would do is 50% off. The felt went first after less than a year. Year 2 the vinyl would shrink and pull away from from the edges, then completely crack and bind the rolling ability before year 3. While some of the issues have been addressed like the plastic replacing the felt, mountains of reviews now claim the endcaps come off and the vinyl quality still shrinks and cracks. I opted to get the MX4 instead with the discount, and hope I don't continue to have problems from this "premium" tonneau company. $1K+ is too much money to have it become trash in 3 years from Georgia sun.
@jobeall5078 , pretty good so far. I don't want to jinx it, but after 1 year there are no issues with fading or the materials itself. Only problem I've had so far is that they use plastic caps in the fold joints to lock into the rails which pop out of place every time I open it, and makes closing it a pain. (This was echoed by a couple other people's comments it looks like). Jury is still out since my Revolvers all failed at the 2-3 year mark.
I'm on my second x2, I just got it replaced from BAK, they were good about it... I changed it out today. The first one almost disintegrated I hope this one lasts... I like it.
On my second one. Same issue with felt..but worse is the aluminum track on the end have come undone and now it's falling apart. They won't do anything forme as they replaced the first one for " free". I wouldn't by another one
Hey I bought a Access Lorado Roll-Up tonneau cover in 2010 and it has been great. Always parked outside, i have no garage or carport, little to no shade all day. It has been rolled down most of the 14 years, stayed rolled up for about the past 5 years until 2 weeks ago rolled it back down. The hook strip on bed rail is wore out but it still stays down when driving. The fabric is fine.
You are absolutely right about those plastic end caps. I had that exact bed cover on my 2023 GMC Canyon and after a year one of those end caps came off and I never found it. Bak also don’t sell those end caps separately….. I will never buy another one!
I had one here in Arizona and the heat completely destroyed the cover. They replaced it with a folding one. Which has now also cracked, split, and delaminated in the heat. 😂
I live in Arizona and went through 3 of them before finally getting one of the new models. I own three trucks, and the other two have the bakflip folding covers and I've had great luck with them, and they're almost completely waterproof even after many years (one was purchased in late 2013). My only CURRENT gripe with the revolver cover new design is the end caps will absolutely not keep water out of the bed. That design needs work. (I keep lots of stuff in the bed of my truck that are work related, and I can't keep anything that I don't want wet at the back of the bed near either corner because of the leaks)
I received a BAK folding hard cover for a GMC Carbon Pro bed, and the rails were actually made in reverse, with the brackets, drains, and notches for the attachment bolts being way off and on the wrong ends.
I'm currently waiting on a revolver x4s to replace a bakflip mx4. Their support has been horrible. You're lucky to get a response via email onces every 4 days, and when you call in the automated voice tells you they're experiencing high call volumes and to use email support. Well I wouldn't be calling in if email support wasn't horrible. Poor quality control, poor customer support. Unfortunately there's not many options for the CarbonPro bed.
I took my old cover to the recycler, got a few bucks. The felt is there to keep from pinching your fingers between the slats when rolling it up or down.
the felt is actually there to create a buffer when it rolls up so the aluminum is not rubbing on the vinyl. Felt fell off my X2 in the first year. 5 years later the vinyl is destroyed. These are 5 year covers unless you can garage your truck. Still not bad - it is vinyl after all !
Yeah I had one of those BAK Revolver bed covers also and I live in south Florida. I was totally disappointed with it as it started coming delaminated after about 2 years. That felt also came off of mine which sucked. But the the outside vinyl started peeling away from the aluminum roll up slats which made it unusable and worthless. I didn’t realize it had a warranty or I would have tried to get it replaced. I’ll never buy another one, especially since it was one of the most expensive too.
I hope the X4s holds up. I just ordered on and waiting on delivery. All the reviews I've watched are good . This will be the first tonneau cover I've ever owned. I'm hoping to gain a little range with my F150 lightning.
I just had the Bakflip MX4 installed on my Toyota Tundra yesterday and noticed my trips have gained 1-2 mpg. I've had multiple tonneau covers (one piece and tri-fold, no rolling) and they've all added a little more mpg, but nothing big.
I have the x2 and really like the design. I am glad that they made improvements since then as I do experience the felt “drop” as others have claimed. I am about three weeks away from getting my new Super Duty and will be putting the x4s on it when it arrives.
I just wanted to give you big thank you for this video. I have a new Ford Maverick and I had planned on saving up for this cover. I may still end up with it, but now I'm going to continue researching covers.
@@JohnbobonI don't get it. I mean he is actually recommending the cover... I don't get why you wouldn't get it. He is literally saying it's the best @muldoon493
I have the Revolver X2, it’s past warranty period now, but had same thing with felt, and the vinyl was peeling off after a little over a year. They replaced, but the second one was clunky and did exact same thing. I had asked when I got my replacement if it was also covered, and they simply wouldn’t respond to me at all. That’s upsetting to know the warranty continued even with the replacement, especially since these things aren’t cheap. I was left with the impression that I should just be happy I got the one replacement. I would never spend that money on one of these again. If you roll without the felt, it pinches the crap out of your fingers!
I have the X4s after the exact same scenario with the X2 (two of them) with the Austin, Tx heat, and it has not held up either. The sides of the top have begun to roll up away from the lid, while slats near the tailgate have become unglued and fallen off.
I was very interested in that cover for my new Maverick but finally decided on Truck2Go's SyneticUSA retractable bed cover. It actually cost less than the one you got. If they had been priced the same I would’ve gone with the roll-up since it is easier to install. I think the retractable is a more permanent solution, is more water/dust resistant and looks great on the Maverick. However, I have to hand it to BAK for standing behind their product. I also agree with you that they fixed a problem that didn’t exist. Good video. Maybe you could give the old ones to someone willing to fix the 'damage' and put them to use.
@@josephpuchel6497 Very well. I’ve had it a short time so I can’t give a long term review yet. However, it is well made and I look to get a very long lifetime of use from my investment.
felt i would think is keeping a the aluminum from touching the finish on top and leaving marks from scratching and or extremely hot ribs leaving lines on cover
To bad it took them so long to “fix” this cover, well, mostly fix. I was actually looking at this one but after your first 2 videos I went with a RetraxPro XR and have been very happy ever since.
I have had mine for nearly 5 years and I can say with confidence it is a piece of shyte. I looks like it is 25 years old. And this is the second one. I got a replacement after just a couple months because the weather striping was barely attached. And those black felt sections are strictly for the heat as this thing gets really hot in SoCal. Just like Texas. And for fun I put the old one on the curb and put my F150 on it to bend it for "proof of destruction".
I had the same failure on my 2019 RAM. Truck was parked out side in Texas summer heat. BAK sent me a replacement and its still good as the truck is not parked in the garage and not out in the heat. Only new problem is one of the cover strap clip/retainer broke. May reach out to BAK to see if the new style are available? Thanks for video!
Beautiful home, garage, lift and cars. I had that cover in the northeast for about a year..no issue with the felt but the rubber gasket that runs the length of the bed is garbage. I now have the Diamondback cover. It will last a long time. Not crazy about how it opens though. You are right about the old clips. Sucked.
After I get a new Bed cover I am going to use the old bed cover as a floor in my Saturn KA Boat. A little modification with a band saw and it should work well.
I like the function and looks of the bak 4s, but with all quality issues and negative reviews, I bought the hf650 quad fold. Right out of the box, bolted it on and it fit perfectly, didn't have to adjust anything.
I just installed the Bak X4S on my truck. During installation those plastic end caps popped right off. I thought that was an odd choice by the manufacturer. They are easy to put back on, but it's still strange. We will see how it goes. I love everything else about the cover.
My X4s had one of the caps broken off upon delivery. According to FedEx tracking the warrantee replacement cap was delivered today while I'm at work. Not only was one of the two spring clips broken, but the indexing pin was also broken. My thought on how to improve this part would be to cut off the indexing pin, drill a hole there, and then use a pop-rivet to hold it on. I'm trying to decide if I should preemptively modify my cover, or wait for the warrantee to run out before I pop-rivet those two endcaps on... Something that I have discovered with the cap missing. It is easy to see that I need to adjust the cover placement because the rear gasket material isn't quite touching the tailgate. Need to shift everything back by about 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch.
Those end caps are making me have second thought on the X4S. I'm looking at the Truxedo Sentry which is the same type of cover. The Sentry doesn't have those corner pieces and looks a little more finished IMO. The one issue with the Sentry is the cover needs to be unlatched to close the tail gate. I think I can live with that.
Very useful and informative video, at a good pace - thanks. I have an Undercover hard tonneau cover which is great but is a PITA if you want an open bed to transport tall objects. This roll-up tonneau cover is the answer for my next truck. How is it holding up after a year in the Texas heat? I am also in Houston.
@@ZeroToAwesome Looks like the release handle sticks out a little on the sides at the tailgate, any issues snagging this when loading of getting in/out of the bed? I'm concerned it might get bent if you have a big items in the bed?
@@EV_Insider you do lose about two inches of clearance but it hasn’t been an issue for me. The wheel wells are much more restrictive. A forklift with a pallet still fits
So no better one found.? I had a Retrax on my 2010 2500 then put another one on my 2020 3500. I thought they would have made improvements but they have not. They have sent me like 3 sets of rails & a new cover as mine is Crooked at the head unit. What I told them is stupid & should have fixed since this cover has been out for a long time is the locking mechanism. It is nice that it covers all stake pockets & you can lock it anywhere but the lock uses pointed pins to dig into the aluminum rail leaving marks and can move as metal to metal will not stay. They need to make the locking fingers bigger & add a type of rubber to them so it does not damage the rails & will help keep it in place. I was also thinking maybe a rubber strip on the rail so the locking pins can dig into the rubber
Hey those plastic ends probably killed numerous sales. It’s a cheap design especially when it comes to bed security. They should be aluminum in design. I like the cover but those cheap breakable plastic ends ENDED it for me.
The felt isn't there for heat purposes, it's to keep someone from pinching their fingers while rolling it. Ask how I know this? Because I've gone through 2 covers myself and both times the felt has melted loose in the Texas heat. So when it did I had to roll it with partial felt or no felt and I pinched my fingers skin bad! So I still have the faulty one on my truck yet myself trying to figure out what to do.
Your Truck is beautiful. How is your latest Revolver cover holding up in our miserable Texas heat? I've spent days researching the best cover to get for my '21 Titan truck. It will be in our garage when not in use. I like the looks and function of the Revolver x4s best. Just not confident it will last 5 to 10 year. Considering how pricey they are, it's sad, but it seems none of the tonneau covers will last over 6 years. Appreciate your helpful videos and any updates.
@ZeroToAwesome so good to know! I just now ordered one for my truck. If I mostly keep it in the garage, hopefully it will last even in our TX brutal heat. I know none of the types of covers are 100% waterproof, but I am hoping it will keep groceries or horse feed sacks dry for a 30 minute drive in the rain ...a blessing we seldom get.
I did a review last summer on my BAKFlip F1 cover. It’s my second one and still has the same water absorption/weight issue and now leaks like crazy. Never again.
Help can I get a photo ?? I’m on my 2nd one & I forgot to do the destroy process on my original before I tossed it and now they won’t send me a new until I provide them with a photo. The 2nd one is peeling on top at the seams 😑
Hey BAK should update this product and use a Velcro strip down each side instead of the hard rubber. Similar to Truxedo CT series. Also remove those rubber ends which seem to be issue of breaking off.
The roll up doesn't reach the cab. It's fastened down with a strap before it gets there. The reason for the felt is so the aluminum doesn't scratch the material.
In addition to being hot, once you have the felt off the old model you'll find that the panels will pinch the hell out of you when you unroll it barehanded. Additionally, after a couple years the rubber starts to deteriorate and everything that touches it (hands, clothes, etc.) gets annoying black marks all over it. I've had mine about 5 years and it is barely holding up. Pieces keep falling off of it, the rubber strips keep bunching up and sliding off the ends, and it leaks like crazy! I have really grown to hate the old Bak Revolver. So, even if at a great price, I would steer clear of this bed cover. I won't even consider the new version after how bad this one has been.
Bought the X4s for my 2021. The cover isn’t wide enough to lock into the rails. It’s about a 1/3” off. They sent me new rails which didn’t fix the issue. Also, one of the panels separated showing the felt underneath and leaving a nice lump in the cover. They’re sending me a new cover after I took measurements showing how it wasn’t wide enough and sent pics of the separation. I’m really disappointed with Bak I had the version 1 cover for 4.5 years with no issues ever.
After posting this video I realized one side of my cover wasn’t locking. Like yours, I discovered mine wasn’t wide enough. I wound up putting some shims between the bed and one rail. Seems to work so far
There's a bakflipg2 on my truck that's 11 years old it leaks but still holding up almost every gasket is worn out they sent me free gaskets but how the fuck do you change em out. Lol time for a. New one
Really a shame they have not figured it out. I want to get a cover but spending a 1,000 for one it really out there and then having it fail repeatedly not good. There seems to be a lot of people having same problem. The updated design looks better but damn if they didn't blow it with the corner pieces..
I’ve got a friend with the X2 that has had his for 3-4 years and of course the felt came off but the edges of the top has separated from the aluminum. Should he contact BAK and have his replaced.
I had this cover and promptly sold it. The tabs on the end of the rail, closest to the tailgate stick out about 1.5in and is super easy to break off if you have big items in the bed. If you ever plan on having a couch, crate, etc that's somewhat big, do not recommend this one. Huge flaw
This is the only comment I’ve seen mentioning this after watching numerous reviews. Loading something like an ATV, I immediately recognized this would be a potential issue. Glad to see I’m not the only one.
So it seems these only work if you live in a perfectly medium environment. Too hot they fail, too cold (seen in other reviews) and they won't roll up. Probably taking these off the list of possibilities.
When it folds up it blocks the back window so I can’t see all the 2x4s falling out of the bed of my truck because I didn’t strap them down. I’m also told it turns into a giant sponge after a few years. And I’m not good at gymnastics
@@ZeroToAwesome whatever falls out of the back is the guys problem behind you. Never look back brother. And for the spongy problem go with the bak flip f1 I hear it is fiberglass compared to the foam used in the MX4
How does the cloth hold up? Does it flop around while driving? I'm in San Antonio and my truck sits outside too. Curious if the cloth top flops around and looks ugly while driving like a soft top.
Still doing great after a year! I can give it a solid “it’ll probably last at least a year (but you might want to glue the end caps on for good measure)” endorsement. And there’s always the warranty if it breaks. They’ve been good about that
If you can get one that fits, sure. About a week after posting this video I noticed my bed cover flapping in the wind on the highway. Turns out it’s about 1/4” too narrow to lock properly. I could probably get another but I’ve shimmed the rails for now and it seems to work. Other people have had the same problem and BAK eventually gets it fixed.
@@ZeroToAwesome besides the issue concerning the possible need to shim it unless they have fixed the issue, how long do you think this model will last considering the changes they have made to the cover? I’m really wanting to get one but I’m not sold on if everything is fixed from the reviews of the prior models with durability of the vinyl and all.
I'd really like to see how the weight rating holds up in real life. It would be cool to see you test one of the old ones and find out if you can stand on it or not!
bummer about the failures, I was wishing Id gone that route instead of as cheap as possible like I did. glad i didnt. I can see bed covers for some UTVs? or a retractable roof on a UTV? or if you were someplace that had snow you could load up and drap s herd of people around a snow covered field behind the truck on them.... Here to help!
Cheap doesn't always mean bad. In the case of a bed cover, cheaper is less complicated. I always bought an Extang Classic Platinum snap down cover for all of the 5 trucks I've owned over the years and no issues with them. The first was on a 93 Lightning and it was still in good shape 10 years later when I traded for an 03 Supercrew. Extang his since discontinued that cover and the reason why I'm looking elsewhere for a cover for my new truck.
Hopefully they send you the right size and you won’t have to. But if you do, just throw one of these in between the bed and the rail every place you put a clamp: www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-Composite-Shim-12-Bundle-10011700/301757699?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D21-G-D21-021_003_DIM_LUMBER-Generic-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D21-G-D21-021_003_DIM_LUMBER-Generic-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-71700000045530102-58700004682521920-92700053361644921&gbraid=0AAAAADq61UeUnqqeXZUpItReV2xwaIjRV&gbraid=0AAAAADq61UeUnqqeXZUpItReV2xwaIjRV&gclid=CjwKCAjwz5iMBhAEEiwAMEAwGP-4RswEwDqETvLUd0_EutMVw4UUDF3aG1chxhRkup2gMfQiMb2mchoCSHIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Have gone through 3 G2 covers and on my 4th since August. Each one has leaked along the seams. BAK said if this one fails, I can go with the Revolver X2. Should I push for the X4 instead?
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So after 1 year of having it how is it holding up?
No issues so far
That vinyl gets messed up
@@simd510do you have it? How do you know that?
I've had the vinyl start coming loose and peeling up on two. They replaced the first one under warranty (with an X4S), and now the new one just started peeling up on the back corner. So each has lasted about 3 years. I'll probably try to glue it back down, otherwise I still like it.
@victordavidup Check other reviews.. we couldn't expect miracle.
The "felts" came loose on mine after it was out of warranty. I took the whole cover off, flipped it upside down, applied construction adhesive, and put back the felts. It's held for at least three years.
I work construction and have the same cover for five years. Open and close daily, Texas heat, Texas hail storm, you name it. Zero issues. I find it strange you got a defective product repeatedly.
I had his same experience, although in my case I went through 3 before getting the new model. I live in Arizona, and the bed cover actual temp in the middle of the summer is often over 190 degrees, and the adhesive they used on that felt wasn't a high temp adhesive.
Great, honest review. Even with the 5 year warranty, full replacement is off the table after the 5 years. I had two X2's fall completely apart in 6 years, and with my latest completely disintegrated, best they would do is 50% off. The felt went first after less than a year. Year 2 the vinyl would shrink and pull away from from the edges, then completely crack and bind the rolling ability before year 3. While some of the issues have been addressed like the plastic replacing the felt, mountains of reviews now claim the endcaps come off and the vinyl quality still shrinks and cracks. I opted to get the MX4 instead with the discount, and hope I don't continue to have problems from this "premium" tonneau company. $1K+ is too much money to have it become trash in 3 years from Georgia sun.
How's the mx4 holding up?
@jobeall5078 , pretty good so far. I don't want to jinx it, but after 1 year there are no issues with fading or the materials itself. Only problem I've had so far is that they use plastic caps in the fold joints to lock into the rails which pop out of place every time I open it, and makes closing it a pain. (This was echoed by a couple other people's comments it looks like). Jury is still out since my Revolvers all failed at the 2-3 year mark.
I'm on my second x2, I just got it replaced from BAK, they were good about it... I changed it out today. The first one almost disintegrated I hope this one lasts... I like it.
On my second one. Same issue with felt..but worse is the aluminum track on the end have come undone and now it's falling apart.
They won't do anything forme as they replaced the first one for " free".
I wouldn't by another one
Hey I bought a Access Lorado Roll-Up tonneau cover in 2010 and it has been great.
Always parked outside, i have no garage or carport, little to no shade all day.
It has been rolled down most of the 14 years, stayed rolled up for about the past 5 years until 2 weeks ago rolled it back down.
The hook strip on bed rail is wore out but it still stays down when driving.
The fabric is fine.
You are absolutely right about those plastic end caps. I had that exact bed cover on my 2023 GMC Canyon and after a year one of those end caps came off and I never found it. Bak also don’t sell those end caps separately….. I will never buy another one!
What is your best cheaper alternative choice?
@@rhoodjI have a new truck now, Chevy 2500, so I’m looking for an alternative choice myself
I had one here in Arizona and the heat completely destroyed the cover. They replaced it with a folding one. Which has now also cracked, split, and delaminated in the heat. 😂
@BrendanEvan My X4s completely delaminated within 3 months of life in Arizona. They give you a M4 instead for the recall?
My cloth the glue got melted from the heat in Arizona 😢 but still love it 😂
An idea for what to do with the old covers. If you (or you have a buddy) who makes furniture. Those covers could be used for roll-top desks.
We made a boat out of one of them. Performed pretty well actually.
I just bought one of these. The corner plastic piece had both tabs and the nub broken off. They're sending me a new one. I like it so far.
So far my plastic pieces have stayed on with the glue. Good luck with your cover!
@@ZeroToAwesome I'm definitely going to glue mine like you did yours.
The felt is to protect the the vynil top as it rolls up from the aluminum
It's also to protect your hand from the aluminum. I live in Arizona, and the temp of the aluminum in the summer is often over 190 degrees.
I live in Arizona and went through 3 of them before finally getting one of the new models. I own three trucks, and the other two have the bakflip folding covers and I've had great luck with them, and they're almost completely waterproof even after many years (one was purchased in late 2013). My only CURRENT gripe with the revolver cover new design is the end caps will absolutely not keep water out of the bed. That design needs work. (I keep lots of stuff in the bed of my truck that are work related, and I can't keep anything that I don't want wet at the back of the bed near either corner because of the leaks)
Yes, glue them on. I like your garage.
I received a BAK folding hard cover for a GMC Carbon Pro bed, and the rails were actually made in reverse, with the brackets, drains, and notches for the attachment bolts being way off and on the wrong ends.
Not entirely surprised. After this video I found out my cover was 1/4” too narrow and wasn’t locking. Had to shim it to get it to lock
@@ZeroToAwesome To bad they are letting quality control slide.
I'm currently waiting on a revolver x4s to replace a bakflip mx4. Their support has been horrible. You're lucky to get a response via email onces every 4 days, and when you call in the automated voice tells you they're experiencing high call volumes and to use email support. Well I wouldn't be calling in if email support wasn't horrible. Poor quality control, poor customer support. Unfortunately there's not many options for the CarbonPro bed.
I took my old cover to the recycler, got a few bucks. The felt is there to keep from pinching your fingers between the slats when rolling it up or down.
the felt is actually there to create a buffer when it rolls up so the aluminum is not rubbing on the vinyl. Felt fell off my X2 in the first year. 5 years later the vinyl is destroyed. These are 5 year covers unless you can garage your truck. Still not bad - it is vinyl after all !
Yeah I had one of those BAK Revolver bed covers also and I live in south Florida. I was totally disappointed with it as it started coming delaminated after about 2 years. That felt also came off of mine which sucked. But the the outside vinyl started peeling away from the aluminum roll up slats which made it unusable and worthless. I didn’t realize it had a warranty or I would have tried to get it replaced. I’ll never buy another one, especially since it was one of the most expensive too.
I hope the X4s holds up. I just ordered on and waiting on delivery.
All the reviews I've watched are good . This will be the first tonneau cover I've ever owned. I'm hoping to gain a little range with my F150 lightning.
Will not gain any range.
I just had the Bakflip MX4 installed on my Toyota Tundra yesterday and noticed my trips have gained 1-2 mpg. I've had multiple tonneau covers (one piece and tri-fold, no rolling) and they've all added a little more mpg, but nothing big.
@@negative7proxyWhat do you think about the RetraxPro XR?😊
I have the x2 and really like the design. I am glad that they made improvements since then as I do experience the felt “drop” as others have claimed. I am about three weeks away from getting my new Super Duty and will be putting the x4s on it when it arrives.
Do you have the x4s on your superduty?
I just wanted to give you big thank you for this video. I have a new Ford Maverick and I had planned on saving up for this cover. I may still end up with it, but now I'm going to continue researching covers.
Good luck with whatever you get!
I'm about to receive a '23 Maverick. What cover did you choose? I was heavily leaning toward the X4S until I saw this video.
@@JohnbobonI don't get it. I mean he is actually recommending the cover... I don't get why you wouldn't get it. He is literally saying it's the best @muldoon493
I have the Revolver X2, it’s past warranty period now, but had same thing with felt, and the vinyl was peeling off after a little over a year. They replaced, but the second one was clunky and did exact same thing. I had asked when I got my replacement if it was also covered, and they simply wouldn’t respond to me at all. That’s upsetting to know the warranty continued even with the replacement, especially since these things aren’t cheap. I was left with the impression that I should just be happy I got the one replacement. I would never spend that money on one of these again. If you roll without the felt, it pinches the crap out of your fingers!
had the exact same problems , now on my 3rd cover
I have the X4s after the exact same scenario with the X2 (two of them) with the Austin, Tx heat, and it has not held up either. The sides of the top have begun to roll up away from the lid, while slats near the tailgate have become unglued and fallen off.
I was very interested in that cover for my new Maverick but finally decided on Truck2Go's SyneticUSA retractable bed cover. It actually cost less than the one you got. If they had been priced the same I would’ve gone with the roll-up since it is easier to install. I think the retractable is a more permanent solution, is more water/dust resistant and looks great on the Maverick. However, I have to hand it to BAK for standing behind their product. I also agree with you that they fixed a problem that didn’t exist. Good video. Maybe you could give the old ones to someone willing to fix the 'damage' and put them to use.
Hey I’m looking at different brands never heard Truck To Go
How’s it holding up ?
@@josephpuchel6497 Very well! Looks great and works as advertised. Of course, I’ve only had it on a few weeks but I'm very pleased with it.
@@josephpuchel6497 Very well. I’ve had it a short time so I can’t give a long term review yet. However, it is well made and I look to get a very long lifetime of use from my investment.
felt i would think is keeping a the aluminum from touching the finish on top and leaving marks from scratching and or extremely hot ribs leaving lines on cover
To bad it took them so long to “fix” this cover, well, mostly fix. I was actually looking at this one but after your first 2 videos I went with a RetraxPro XR and have been very happy ever since.
I think that Retrax pro is a better choice.
Use them for roll doors on a shed? And or hurricane window covers.
Or make a boat out of them…
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I have had mine for nearly 5 years and I can say with confidence it is a piece of shyte. I looks like it is 25 years old. And this is the second one. I got a replacement after just a couple months because the weather striping was barely attached. And those black felt sections are strictly for the heat as this thing gets really hot in SoCal. Just like Texas. And for fun I put the old one on the curb and put my F150 on it to bend it for "proof of destruction".
One more item. It really makes my 2018 Ford F150, which is perfect cosmetically, look crappy when get around to the back and look at the cover.
I wonder what other proof of destructions they’ve received!
I had the same failure on my 2019 RAM. Truck was parked out side in Texas summer heat. BAK sent me a replacement and its still good as the truck is not parked in the garage and not out in the heat. Only new problem is one of the cover strap clip/retainer broke. May reach out to BAK to see if the new style are available?
Thanks for video!
Beautiful home, garage, lift and cars. I had that cover in the northeast for about a year..no issue with the felt but the rubber gasket that runs the length of the bed is garbage. I now have the Diamondback cover. It will last a long time. Not crazy about how it opens though. You are right about the old clips. Sucked.
The diamondback may even outlast the truck! But yeah, it’s a trade off
why does everyone use an impact driver that you cannot control the torque on to install nuts
After I get a new Bed cover I am going to use the old bed cover as a floor in my Saturn KA Boat. A little modification with a band saw and it should work well.
GREAT MINDS. We turned mine into a boat…
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I like the function and looks of the bak 4s, but with all quality issues and negative reviews, I bought the hf650 quad fold. Right out of the box, bolted it on and it fit perfectly, didn't have to adjust anything.
Smart.
I don’t think the end caps will flex with the tail gate in the up position - only when you crank on the cover to close it without the gate support.
The felt may be for sound deadening/ noise reduction for the metal clanging noise
Must be the same glue on the vinyl cover. The vinyl is pelling back on mine.
I just installed the Bak X4S on my truck. During installation those plastic end caps popped right off. I thought that was an odd choice by the manufacturer. They are easy to put back on, but it's still strange. We will see how it goes. I love everything else about the cover.
My X4s had one of the caps broken off upon delivery. According to FedEx tracking the warrantee replacement cap was delivered today while I'm at work. Not only was one of the two spring clips broken, but the indexing pin was also broken. My thought on how to improve this part would be to cut off the indexing pin, drill a hole there, and then use a pop-rivet to hold it on. I'm trying to decide if I should preemptively modify my cover, or wait for the warrantee to run out before I pop-rivet those two endcaps on...
Something that I have discovered with the cap missing. It is easy to see that I need to adjust the cover placement because the rear gasket material isn't quite touching the tailgate. Need to shift everything back by about 1/32 to 1/16 of an inch.
Any update on how the new X4s is holding up in the summer?
@@LoCleTXRV still doing good. No felt to fall off anymore!
Thank for showing us those problems, they need to design products right the first time and not half ass.
Those end caps are making me have second thought on the X4S. I'm looking at the Truxedo Sentry which is the same type of cover. The Sentry doesn't have those corner pieces and looks a little more finished IMO. The one issue with the Sentry is the cover needs to be unlatched to close the tail gate. I think I can live with that.
Same company different cover. All the truck hero stuff is the same manufacturer
Very useful and informative video, at a good pace - thanks. I have an Undercover hard tonneau cover which is great but is a PITA if you want an open bed to transport tall objects. This roll-up tonneau cover is the answer for my next truck. How is it holding up after a year in the Texas heat? I am also in Houston.
Thanks! So far so good. No issues yet with this one. Haven’t even lost those plastic end caps!
@@ZeroToAwesome Thanks for the confirmation.
Nicely done, thanks.
Did you look at the MX4 flip up model?
Yeah but I didn’t want to have the back window blocked when it was all the way up
@@ZeroToAwesome Looks like the release handle sticks out a little on the sides at the tailgate, any issues snagging this when loading of getting in/out of the bed? I'm concerned it might get bent if you have a big items in the bed?
@@EV_Insider you do lose about two inches of clearance but it hasn’t been an issue for me. The wheel wells are much more restrictive. A forklift with a pallet still fits
The felt and rubber also help so you don't damage your back window
So no better one found.? I had a Retrax on my 2010 2500 then put another one on my 2020 3500. I thought they would have made improvements but they have not. They have sent me like 3 sets of rails & a new cover as mine is Crooked at the head unit. What I told them is stupid & should have fixed since this cover has been out for a long time is the locking mechanism. It is nice that it covers all stake pockets & you can lock it anywhere but the lock uses pointed pins to dig into the aluminum rail leaving marks and can move as metal to metal will not stay. They need to make the locking fingers bigger & add a type of rubber to them so it does not damage the rails & will help keep it in place. I was also thinking maybe a rubber strip on the rail so the locking pins can dig into the rubber
Hey those plastic ends probably killed numerous sales. It’s a cheap design especially when it comes to bed security. They should be aluminum in design. I like the cover but those cheap breakable plastic ends ENDED it for me.
The felt isn't there for heat purposes, it's to keep someone from pinching their fingers while rolling it. Ask how I know this? Because I've gone through 2 covers myself and both times the felt has melted loose in the Texas heat. So when it did I had to roll it with partial felt or no felt and I pinched my fingers skin bad! So I still have the faulty one on my truck yet myself trying to figure out what to do.
nope
Hi, could you paint the cover as the same colour of the truck
I doubt it. It’s vinyl
Thanks for the reply, I thought once the Vinyl is removed it could be painted.
Your Truck is beautiful. How is your latest Revolver cover holding up in our miserable Texas heat? I've spent days researching the best cover to get for my '21 Titan truck. It will be in our garage when not in use. I like the looks and function of the Revolver x4s best. Just not confident it will last 5 to 10 year. Considering how pricey they are, it's sad, but it seems none of the tonneau covers will last over 6 years. Appreciate your helpful videos and any updates.
So far so good. Haven’t even lost one of those end caps yet. The truck is garaged now though so that may be why it’s doing well
@ZeroToAwesome so good to know! I just now ordered one for my truck. If I mostly keep it in the garage, hopefully it will last even in our TX brutal heat. I know none of the types of covers are 100% waterproof, but I am hoping it will keep groceries or horse feed sacks dry for a 30 minute drive in the rain ...a blessing we seldom get.
The felt/rubber is to dampen rattle sounds. Otherwise metal cover on metal rail = noise
I'm betting the felt/rubber is to keep it from rattling.
I did a review last summer on my BAKFlip F1 cover. It’s my second one and still has the same water absorption/weight issue and now leaks like crazy. Never again.
Dang that sucks. Sorry!
Very nice F150 Raptor!!
Tell me about your lift in the garage. Thanks.
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Nice
Help can I get a photo ?? I’m on my 2nd one & I forgot to do the destroy process on my original before I tossed it and now they won’t send me a new until I provide them with a photo. The 2nd one is peeling on top at the seams 😑
Thank you, I'm still looking or window shopping.
How's it been holding up since this video?
Still doing good!
@@ZeroToAwesome do you get any water or leaks in your bed?
@@eliteclawamusementsI don’t think any of them are 100% waterproof but when there is water it’s not much
Hey BAK should update this product and use a Velcro strip down each side instead of the hard rubber. Similar to Truxedo CT series. Also remove those rubber ends which seem to be issue of breaking off.
The purpose of the rubber/felt is to keep the cover from scratching up the back of your cab when it is rolled up. Fun fact. Great vid
no, it contacts in the center not the far edges.
The roll up doesn't reach the cab. It's fastened down with a strap before it gets there.
The reason for the felt is so the aluminum doesn't scratch the material.
I have the same exact cover how did the glue on the end caps work?
They haven’t fallen off yet!
In addition to being hot, once you have the felt off the old model you'll find that the panels will pinch the hell out of you when you unroll it barehanded. Additionally, after a couple years the rubber starts to deteriorate and everything that touches it (hands, clothes, etc.) gets annoying black marks all over it. I've had mine about 5 years and it is barely holding up. Pieces keep falling off of it, the rubber strips keep bunching up and sliding off the ends, and it leaks like crazy! I have really grown to hate the old Bak Revolver. So, even if at a great price, I would steer clear of this bed cover. I won't even consider the new version after how bad this one has been.
Bought the X4s for my 2021. The cover isn’t wide enough to lock into the rails. It’s about a 1/3” off. They sent me new rails which didn’t fix the issue. Also, one of the panels separated showing the felt underneath and leaving a nice lump in the cover. They’re sending me a new cover after I took measurements showing how it wasn’t wide enough and sent pics of the separation. I’m really disappointed with Bak I had the version 1 cover for 4.5 years with no issues ever.
After posting this video I realized one side of my cover wasn’t locking. Like yours, I discovered mine wasn’t wide enough. I wound up putting some shims between the bed and one rail. Seems to work so far
There's a bakflipg2 on my truck that's 11 years old it leaks but still holding up almost every gasket is worn out they sent me free gaskets but how the fuck do you change em out. Lol time for a. New one
@@jond661 lol good question!
@@ZeroToAwesome scary! Good thing it didn’t catch any high winds and rip off!
I think it's to prevent scratching of the top. No metal on metal when u roll it up.
No it’s not. It’s to protect your hands from the hot metal.
@@mct8888 why not both.
Lol that thumbnail photo is epic!! 😅
just ordered mines thanks
felt may have been to protect A-surface? decent review, good job.
Hello, does anyone know the part number of the rear corner cap? Where can I get it online? Thanks
The old bed cover would make a great convertible roof for a side-by-side?
Really a shame they have not figured it out. I want to get a cover but spending a 1,000 for one it really out there and then having it fail repeatedly not good. There seems to be a lot of people having same problem. The updated design looks better but damn if they didn't blow it with the corner pieces..
You could always super glue the end cap into position. That cap prevents the weather stripping from coming up from the end like on the old model.
I’ve got a friend with the X2 that has had his for 3-4 years and of course the felt came off but the edges of the top has separated from the aluminum. Should he contact BAK and have his replaced.
I had this cover and promptly sold it. The tabs on the end of the rail, closest to the tailgate stick out about 1.5in and is super easy to break off if you have big items in the bed. If you ever plan on having a couch, crate, etc that's somewhat big, do not recommend this one. Huge flaw
This is the only comment I’ve seen mentioning this after watching numerous reviews. Loading something like an ATV, I immediately recognized this would be a potential issue. Glad to see I’m not the only one.
I assume it will help with road noise
So it seems these only work if you live in a perfectly medium environment. Too hot they fail, too cold (seen in other reviews) and they won't roll up. Probably taking these off the list of possibilities.
Why didn't you go with the bak flip
When it folds up it blocks the back window so I can’t see all the 2x4s falling out of the bed of my truck because I didn’t strap them down. I’m also told it turns into a giant sponge after a few years. And I’m not good at gymnastics
@@ZeroToAwesome whatever falls out of the back is the guys problem behind you. Never look back brother. And for the spongy problem go with the bak flip f1 I hear it is fiberglass compared to the foam used in the MX4
The felt keeps it from melting the track and letting water in
Slice them up in small rollable strips that you can use for low traction situations with the SXS or truck.
I like it!
How does the cloth hold up? Does it flop around while driving? I'm in San Antonio and my truck sits outside too. Curious if the cloth top flops around and looks ugly while driving like a soft top.
So far it’s staying glued to the aluminum and not blowing in the wind
the felt is to protect both sides from scratching surfaces
Looking at purchasing the x4s for my 2022 Raptor and was wondering how this one is holding up?
Still doing great after a year! I can give it a solid “it’ll probably last at least a year (but you might want to glue the end caps on for good measure)” endorsement. And there’s always the warranty if it breaks. They’ve been good about that
@@ZeroToAwesome thanks, I’ll definitely glue the end caps like you
Great video. Thanks. After a couple months of use, do you recommend this cover?
If you can get one that fits, sure. About a week after posting this video I noticed my bed cover flapping in the wind on the highway. Turns out it’s about 1/4” too narrow to lock properly. I could probably get another but I’ve shimmed the rails for now and it seems to work. Other people have had the same problem and BAK eventually gets it fixed.
@@ZeroToAwesome besides the issue concerning the possible need to shim it unless they have fixed the issue, how long do you think this model will last considering the changes they have made to the cover? I’m really wanting to get one but I’m not sold on if everything is fixed from the reviews of the prior models with durability of the vinyl and all.
@@ctmartin1319 pretty sure it’s the same vinyl. With the warranty you’ll get at least 5 years. That’s probably all I’d count on
I'd really like to see how the weight rating holds up in real life. It would be cool to see you test one of the old ones and find out if you can stand on it or not!
Great idea!
How has it held up? I'm in texas and looking at this one.
One thing you could do with the "destroyed" cover is to give it to me in exchange for a donation to your beer fund! 😂
Dude cracks me up!
All those great GM products in your garages so why the FORD Truck?
I don’t care about the brand. I just liked the ford trucks better than what gm (or anyone) offered at the time
🧐 that garage… Z06 🔥
Almost… looks like one but it’s missing a supercharger:
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a camping tent with a bak revolver retractable top would be cool
Should not have to glue a $1200 product. Kept me from buying it, thanks for your no BS review.
bummer about the failures, I was wishing Id gone that route instead of as cheap as possible like I did. glad i didnt. I can see bed covers for some UTVs? or a retractable roof on a UTV? or if you were someplace that had snow you could load up and drap s herd of people around a snow covered field behind the truck on them.... Here to help!
Cheap doesn't always mean bad. In the case of a bed cover, cheaper is less complicated. I always bought an Extang Classic Platinum snap down cover for all of the 5 trucks I've owned over the years and no issues with them. The first was on a 93 Lightning and it was still in good shape 10 years later when I traded for an 03 Supercrew. Extang his since discontinued that cover and the reason why I'm looking elsewhere for a cover for my new truck.
I'm curious how is it doing? I'm between this the Lomax and Sentry CT and was wondering how it' holding up 10 months later?
So far so good. The little plastic clips haven’t even fallen off yet!
I have a sentry and love it buying a second for my new truck
Might make a great cover on a utility trailer
How is the X4S holding up? Looking to buy one so just wonder. Thanks
Turns out it was a little too small and wouldn’t lock properly but after I shimmed it it’s doing fine. Haven’t lost the end caps yet!
The felt keeps you from being pinched
What if you buy something to give some shade to your truck if you cant park it inside of your garage?
I like the idea! I was thinking something similar along the lines of protection from hail but that’s a good idea too!
It has not been THAT hot in Atlanta.
But it’s called HOTlanta!!
What about gator fx3?
Was I just seeing things, or was the latching mechanism accessible when you pulled off that end cap? Seems like it could be a security issue if so.
You don’t even need to remove the end caps. All you need is a screwdriver and 5 seconds. It locks the wind out, not people with screwdrivers
@@ZeroToAwesome That's kinda a bummer. I often work in Methopotamia, where things in your truck bed grow legs. Cool video.👍
Can you post a video of the shims? I just ordered an X4s for my 2009 F-150, so I'm getting mentally prepared to put these in right away.
Hopefully they send you the right size and you won’t have to. But if you do, just throw one of these in between the bed and the rail every place you put a clamp:
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I also do not like that it is impossible to open with snow load
Make a batch of thermite and light it up. Use titanium powder for a primer.
I like this idea!
Have gone through 3 G2 covers and on my 4th since August. Each one has leaked along the seams. BAK said if this one fails, I can go with the Revolver X2. Should I push for the X4 instead?
Felt is so you don’t blister your hand, GDit that thing gets hot!