I'm personally a big fan of Ben Reilly. I think he was a pretty interesting character. The immediate stuff that came out right after he became Spiderman was pretty good. They put Ben in a more modern (well, 90's modern) setting. Ben lived in the city and worked as a waiter, which was a breath of fresh air after Peter being a student/photographer/scientist all these years. I also enjoyed seeing Ben meet all the other characters that Peter establish connections through the years.
Gotta admit this though. This gave us the scarlett spider, and the BEAUTIFUL Ben riley spiderman costume, with the huge spider logo, more blue, web shooter visible on the outside (looking like clips on a REVOLVER) lol DATS a MANS Costume right there
A trilogy of darker Spidey films featuring genetically enhanced villains like the Lizard, Morbius and Carrion and using elements from the clone storylines to make them cohesive would be the coolest way to do the movie franchise reboot, IMHO. I'd love to hear your thoughts on these ideas as well as on the supposed return of Ben Reilly that's in development.
I remember drawing a spiderman cover as the scarlet spider was actually a cyborg and was was partially destroyed by the real spiderman pulling its self up out of the sewers using a big pipe while Peter was up in the corner hiding from it.
@227060 yeah, I remember the issue with Batman getting his back broken by Bane (if this is what you were talking about), but I apparently missed everything about his recovery cause I normally don't read Batman. He suddenly just came back. No idea.
The clone saga was actually the first Marvel attempt to make Spiderman single again. They really wanted MJ and Peter to go away from the books leaving the "real one" Ben in charge of the books.
Finally someone showing the clone saga some much overdue love. Sure it wasn't Crisis or Knightfall material but hey, they can't all be great. I also would like to hear your thoughts on your 5 favorite spiderman comics.
Hey DCompose, mate you really are awsome!! I really enjoy your video's espeacially your 101 vids. I would love to see a vid of your collection, ye know like your comics on the walls and your Marvel, DC and Transformers. Any chance of that?
"Best storyline ever," he says dripping with sarcasm, haha. Good stuff, man. I actually remember that I liked the Clone Saga because I really like Scarlet Spider. I think I even have that Spider-Man: The Lost Years first issue somewhere. I always wished he'd lived and went to the west Coast or something, lol. Joined up with the West Coast Avengers. Between this and Separation Anxiety, you must've been croaking for good comics around '94.
I love this video, cuz as far as I know, this is the only video where you cover my homeboy Ben Reilly the Scarlet spider. Even though the clone saga is crazy, I love your channel love the video and I love Ben Reilly.
When I started reading the comic books as a kid I was reading when the clone sagas started again in 94 which I feel I started reading Marvel at the best time, and the clone sagas were kick ass I started reading a few venom sagas, and wolvering but the clone saga was the best, and I have been looking for away to get those comics does anyone know how I can get all the spider-man clone saga comics, seeing alot of those covers he showed brings back alot of memories when I was a kid reading them.
Great job keeping a straight face through the whole thing. But I digress, I feel as if the summary was so rough that it almost didn't feel worth it. But I appreciated in none-the-less. Sadly when I started collecting comics as a kid I started smack dab in the middle of the clone saga. You never mentioned Kain!? Btw...Marrow 101 (I've decided to give this a go with every one of my comments form now on)
Another great video, Kev - I always enjoy your postings. I thought that RUclips had imposed a limit on videos being a maximum of 10mins long, but I have seen a few recent vids (this one included) that are longer than that. I haven't posted any videos myself yet, but I was wondering if RUclips lets people post vids longer than 10mins if they've been a member a certain length of time, or if they've got a certain number of subscribers, or something like that. Does anyone know if this is the case?
I actually loved the clone saga,simply because Parker got booted out for a while. I've always hated the Spiderman comics because of Peters angst and complaining about Aunt May or other everyday things. Reilly was a breath of fresh air and Kaine was a damn badass to the bone.
so that means that after the issue 149 the clone spider-man actually start to be the hero and not the real peter right?? be reilly is the real peter parker so after the issue 149 there's not more peter parker ??
Hi, I just saw your vid about the original clone saga I wanna hear you take on the Ultimate Clone saga? Do you read the Ultimate Spiderman series? How do you feel about it?
I personally loved the ultimate clone saga but only having read three issues of the original clone saga (hard to get) i cant say which is better anyone good vid as usual Kev
You always said that it annoyed people that Ben Reilly was then the "New" Spider-Man ... I mean they actually made it more look like Ben Reilly was the real peter Parker and so he also was actually the "real" Spider-Man, the one who was bitten by the Spider and stuff. It really shocked me when I read it the first time so I think it was good.
@227060 yeah it really pissed me off the first time. I mean thinking that the Spidey we knew all this time was just a clone and the real Spidey was living on the street was awful. but well, now that we know that Peter was the real one all along makes it a good read if you know what I mean. Sry, my english is terrible xD
hey im a new reader for comics and i want to start the with the clone sage so its with the amazing spiderman 149 to 151 right and what were the other ones please
Did you really enjoy the clone saga? I was not as big into comics when the clone saga came out, but I am familiar with the clone saga. Its interesting because anytime I ever hear about the clone saga, blog about it or talk about it online. A few people always condem it as the worst thing that happened to Spidey before OMD/BND
WOOOO, baby, i've been waiting for this one! Haven't even watched it yet, but sweeet. I understand how fucked everyone thinks the whole clone saga is. But the Revelations plot that ended it was my introduction to spider-man as a 10 year old kid. And to me, it will always be something special! Nice one, buddy. I love your work!
freaking SWEET ! Hope they'll give him his own movie too ;) well, they'll probably show his origin pretty thoroughly in Wolverine's movie huh ? Let's hope :)
LOVED the review bro ! Shit like this makes me glad I subscribed ! But I noticed something. I had seen (while I was watching your video) that there was a Spiderman issue with Ghost Rider....think you could clear the air for me on that one ? I loved Ghost Rider and Deadpool (Spiderman's still my favorite though) and I think they're underrated...How'd Spidey react to Hell's Bounty Hunter ? ;)
funny thing, i first started reading Spidey during the Clone saga, I thought it was shit and moved onto Wolverine for a while until the issue where Ben dies came out on my birthday.
I think the 90s clone saga gets an undeserved bad rap. I mean for 1 thing it is SO long (a common complaint) that its impossible for it to be consistently poor. There were areas which make you understand why it is reviled (Maximum cloneage) but there are alos ideas, characters and moments which were either great (Ben Reilly) ot poorly executed (Kaine) along with stuff inbetween eg Doc Ock's 'death' issue was actually good but the idea to kill him off was bad cos he is such a good character
This is ignoring the fact that the Clone Saga from the 70s (and 90s if you count Conway's Carrion arc in Spectacular) were equally as confusing and convoluted and didn't really make mkuch sense whe you look at it either
@bittton Ben was like Perer's brother and the ONLY person to really know what it was like to be him. Kaine was alsoa potentially awsome villain. ppl say Venomi is the dark reflection of Spider-Man well, mayb he is but Kaine is just as interesting he is the dark reflection of Peter Parker
IMO guys theclone saga was a good and interesting story that got out of hands. Instead of playing around with the idea a little, they wanted to implement the change permanently. Anyway this almost kills spidey in the 90s.
@Matriculon no worries man its the internet no1 cares. I just look at it as a crazy time for Spider-Man and its not like I didn't like Ben or his Spidey costume/adventures. from a writers POV it sorta solves the 'marriage' thing they all ridiculously have a problem with. its weird tho ALL major superheroes had BIG x-overs in the 90s where they were replaced by 'hipper' versions. Superman died and got Last Son of Krypton. Bats back was broken + we got Jean Paul Valley. Spidey's a clone=Ben Reilly
Why the fuck does everyone say that "Ben was like a twin of Peter and knew what it was like to be him" man that's so obvious! He is a CLONE! The clone has all the memories of Peter Parker until the point of its creation!! So hell yes he know's what it's like to be him. Because the clone basically IS Peter Parker, just not the "original" one. He has EXACTLY the same personality and EXACTLY the same memories (up to a certain point)
@Matriculon on a shock level it was good. from a fans perspecive it was bad bcos u felt cheated for all thsoe years u read Spider-Man bcos he wasnt the REAL Spidey. in hindsight tho when u read it knowing that in the end Ben isn't the original i enjoy it much more bcos, u know that at the end of the day no real damage was done, Ben was Spidey for a while and then he wasn't end of story.
i hav 2 say the whole spider carnage in the comics wasnt so good but wat i hated in the tv show was the fact that they made ben reiley 2 b the real spiderman n spider carnage basically destroys himself although they do get away with it because it "happened in a different dimension" but still
Remember that time MJ was killed by Peter Parker's radio active spider jizz?
I'm personally a big fan of Ben Reilly. I think he was a pretty interesting character. The immediate stuff that came out right after he became Spiderman was pretty good. They put Ben in a more modern (well, 90's modern) setting. Ben lived in the city and worked as a waiter, which was a breath of fresh air after Peter being a student/photographer/scientist all these years. I also enjoyed seeing Ben meet all the other characters that Peter establish connections through the years.
to be honest, i LOVE the scarlet spider hoodie costume. it is my third favorite costume besides the classic red and blue and the black.
Gotta admit this though. This gave us the scarlett spider, and the BEAUTIFUL Ben riley spiderman costume, with the huge spider logo, more blue, web shooter visible on the outside (looking like clips on a REVOLVER) lol DATS a MANS Costume right there
FACTS!! 👌
A trilogy of darker Spidey films featuring genetically enhanced villains like the Lizard, Morbius and Carrion and using elements from the clone storylines to make them cohesive would be the coolest way to do the movie franchise reboot, IMHO. I'd love to hear your thoughts on these ideas as well as on the supposed return of Ben Reilly that's in development.
I remember drawing a spiderman cover as the scarlet spider was actually a cyborg and was was partially destroyed by the real spiderman pulling its self up out of the sewers using a big pipe while Peter was up in the corner hiding from it.
@227060 yeah, I remember the issue with Batman getting his back broken by Bane (if this is what you were talking about), but I apparently missed everything about his recovery cause I normally don't read Batman. He suddenly just came back. No idea.
Great video, Kev. It's hard to cover all of the Clone Saga in one vid, but you did a good job. Loved all your sarcasm.
The clone saga was actually the first Marvel attempt to make Spiderman single again. They really wanted MJ and Peter to go away from the books leaving the "real one" Ben in charge of the books.
I love the scarlet spider I wish some of his comic lasted longer than a few issues
@TheTitofly Yeah I also found out I can order them from barnes and noble, the price is high though but I will get them one by one eventually
You forgot to mention that Green Goblin had MJ drugged, it wasn't a typical miscarriage.
Finally someone showing the clone saga some much overdue love. Sure it wasn't Crisis or Knightfall material but hey, they can't all be great. I also would like to hear your thoughts on your 5 favorite spiderman comics.
"Never suspected a thing?"
I know you were the clone the whole time. Clones have a link to eack other.
I'm a clone of Dragonblack90
Woah..... I didn't notice. And I thought I was a clone of my best friend.... If I couldn't sense other clones, does that mean I'm the real one?
Hey DCompose, mate you really are awsome!! I really enjoy your video's espeacially your 101 vids. I would love to see a vid of your collection, ye know like your comics on the walls and your Marvel, DC and Transformers. Any chance of that?
"Best storyline ever," he says dripping with sarcasm, haha. Good stuff, man.
I actually remember that I liked the Clone Saga because I really like Scarlet Spider. I think I even have that Spider-Man: The Lost Years first issue somewhere. I always wished he'd lived and went to the west Coast or something, lol. Joined up with the West Coast Avengers.
Between this and Separation Anxiety, you must've been croaking for good comics around '94.
I love this video, cuz as far as I know, this is the only video where you cover my homeboy Ben Reilly the Scarlet spider. Even though the clone saga is crazy, I love your channel love the video and I love Ben Reilly.
You should do a 101 on DeadPool. He's one of my favorite characters and has a pretty interesting story.
I really liked scarlet spider, and bens spider-man variation
When I started reading the comic books as a kid I was reading when the clone sagas started again in 94 which I feel I started reading Marvel at the best time, and the clone sagas were kick ass I started reading a few venom sagas, and wolvering but the clone saga was the best, and I have been looking for away to get those comics does anyone know how I can get all the spider-man clone saga comics, seeing alot of those covers he showed brings back alot of memories when I was a kid reading them.
Kev. You we me a new Sarcasm Detector. Mine blew up the 2nd time you said "Clone Saga was the greatest story ever told."
hey you should do that slide show of all the covers again
i really used to enjoyed that
Daaamn, I never in my wildest dreams(before I saw the preview) imagined you'd do the Clone Saga. Awesome. Thanks, Kev. :)
true words kev, just like Hal Jordan being paralax, contreversy equal memoriable stories a showcase the balls to make change.
it's a miracle, u finally did it. i love scarlet spider
Thank you so much for this vid. I'm reading everything Venom and am getting closer to this part of the history and it looks to be very confusing.
Great job keeping a straight face through the whole thing. But I digress, I feel as if the summary was so rough that it almost didn't feel worth it. But I appreciated in none-the-less. Sadly when I started collecting comics as a kid I started smack dab in the middle of the clone saga. You never mentioned Kain!?
Btw...Marrow 101 (I've decided to give this a go with every one of my comments form now on)
Another great video, Kev - I always enjoy your postings. I thought that RUclips had imposed a limit on videos being a maximum of 10mins long, but I have seen a few recent vids (this one included) that are longer than that. I haven't posted any videos myself yet, but I was wondering if RUclips lets people post vids longer than 10mins if they've been a member a certain length of time, or if they've got a certain number of subscribers, or something like that. Does anyone know if this is the case?
lol I love your sarcasm about how the clone saga was the greatest plot ever on a comic book.
do one with the five symbiotes that were taken away by venom from the life foundation
Welcome back, Kev.
I actually loved the clone saga,simply because Parker got booted out for a while. I've always hated the Spiderman comics because of Peters angst and complaining about Aunt May or other everyday things. Reilly was a breath of fresh air and Kaine was a damn badass to the bone.
so that means that after the issue 149 the clone spider-man actually start to be the hero and not the real peter right?? be reilly is the real peter parker so after the issue 149 there's not more peter parker ??
I also luv spiderman but never really had a subscription and was thinking to get one but I'm not sure where to start any suggestions?
yeah, same here, they couldnt decide if they wanted to continue or not :\
Hi, I just saw your vid about the original clone saga I wanna hear you take on the Ultimate Clone saga? Do you read the Ultimate Spiderman series? How do you feel about it?
I'm new to the Spider-Man comics world, so I had to scroll down to see the comments. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or not. ;)
Do you have or heard the issue of Spider-Man when he gains the power of Cosmic?
had to rewatch miss my dcompose vids
I personally loved the ultimate clone saga but only having read three issues of the original clone saga (hard to get) i cant say which is better anyone good vid as usual Kev
Hey DComclone.
Any chance of a Deadpool 101 due to his recent appearences in Marvel movies?
which movie did he apear in ? I don't remember seeing him :(
You always said that it annoyed people that Ben Reilly was then the "New" Spider-Man ... I mean they actually made it more look like Ben Reilly was the real peter Parker and so he also was actually the "real" Spider-Man, the one who was bitten by the Spider and stuff. It really shocked me when I read it the first time so I think it was good.
have you looked up maximum carnage, i havent read that but i played the game.
i bet in the future people will be thinking of Brand New Day as we do of the clone saga
@227060 yeah it really pissed me off the first time. I mean thinking that the Spidey we knew all this time was just a clone and the real Spidey was living on the street was awful. but well, now that we know that Peter was the real one all along makes it a good read if you know what I mean. Sry, my english is terrible xD
how did ben come back to life to get the symbiote?
Lol loved how you were joking about the clone saga being the best
hey im a new reader for comics and i want to start the with the clone sage so its with the amazing spiderman 149 to 151 right and what were the other ones please
Did you really enjoy the clone saga? I was not as big into comics when the clone saga came out, but I am familiar with the clone saga. Its interesting because anytime I ever hear about the clone saga, blog about it or talk about it online. A few people always condem it as the worst thing that happened to Spidey before OMD/BND
Sweet I was anticapating your opinion of the clone saga!
Are there any TPB of the clone saga issues? I really want to read them just to see how bad it is
I think the scarlet spiderman costume is the best spidey costume there is :D
What's your take on TASM3 be Doing the clone saga ?
Yes, yes he did/does
Can you do Kaine 101
spider-carnage was frickin looney in a good kinda way
I think the Clone-Saga hate has died down over the years.
Thank goodness too...... time for a return.
Ben Reilly is STILL my favorite comic book charater!!!
WOOOO, baby, i've been waiting for this one!
Haven't even watched it yet, but sweeet.
I understand how fucked everyone thinks the whole clone saga is. But the Revelations plot that ended it was my introduction to spider-man as a 10 year old kid. And to me, it will always be something special!
Nice one, buddy. I love your work!
can you do dc vids on arrow
freaking SWEET ! Hope they'll give him his own movie too ;) well, they'll probably show his origin pretty thoroughly in Wolverine's movie huh ? Let's hope :)
can you do a 101 class on asbestos man plz?
Ah, that makes perfect sense. Again, another fantastic vid!
LOVED the review bro ! Shit like this makes me glad I subscribed ! But I noticed something. I had seen (while I was watching your video) that there was a Spiderman issue with Ghost Rider....think you could clear the air for me on that one ? I loved Ghost Rider and Deadpool (Spiderman's still my favorite though) and I think they're underrated...How'd Spidey react to Hell's Bounty Hunter ? ;)
funny thing, i first started reading Spidey during the Clone saga, I thought it was shit and moved onto Wolverine for a while until the issue where Ben dies came out on my birthday.
I think the 90s clone saga gets an undeserved bad rap. I mean for 1 thing it is SO long (a common complaint) that its impossible for it to be consistently poor. There were areas which make you understand why it is reviled (Maximum cloneage) but there are alos ideas, characters and moments which were either great (Ben Reilly) ot poorly executed (Kaine) along with stuff inbetween eg Doc Ock's 'death' issue was actually good but the idea to kill him off was bad cos he is such a good character
yeah me too that was great
good review but vwery confusing for me some of the clone saga comes in a tie in with the onslought saga
I want to hear about Cosmic Spider-Man.
hey master Where you obtain the comics
pliss say me where you obtained those old comics??
the clone saga was awesome
DCompose Do you like Cable (comics)?
This is ignoring the fact that the Clone Saga from the 70s (and 90s if you count Conway's Carrion arc in Spectacular) were equally as confusing and convoluted and didn't really make mkuch sense whe you look at it either
hey kev wasnt spiderhulk a clone?
I agree with you Peter Parker had his "brother" Ben Reilly i enjoyed the clone saga.
Everybody does man everybody does man
@bittton Ben was like Perer's brother and the ONLY person to really know what it was like to be him. Kaine was alsoa potentially awsome villain. ppl say Venomi is the dark reflection of Spider-Man well, mayb he is but Kaine is just as interesting he is the dark reflection of Peter Parker
If Aunt May dies in amazing 400, then wtf is going on in one more day series with her being shot and the thing with mephisto? wtf
IMO guys theclone saga was a good and interesting story that got out of hands.
Instead of playing around with the idea a little, they wanted to implement the change permanently. Anyway this almost kills spidey in the 90s.
What new Clone Saga? Where did you hear this from ? :S
I now you don`t make videos in 2010 but if your looking at this can you do a electro
101
i would like to see manbat
I like his into music
Hulk vs Wolverine and he'll be in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
dude i just found u on here....u are straight beast mode son!!! yes!!
haha I love the sarcasm in this
Died in 1996?
But I remember him in the Onslaught saga!
i miss the scarlet spider :{
tysm kev if u remember i asked a while back for this u prolly did it for other reasons but thnks man
i really love the clone saga dispite what people say.
Can I ahve a copy of spdierman #149 where the CLone first appears?
@Matriculon no worries man its the internet no1 cares. I just look at it as a crazy time for Spider-Man and its not like I didn't like Ben or his Spidey costume/adventures. from a writers POV it sorta solves the 'marriage' thing they all ridiculously have a problem with. its weird tho ALL major superheroes had BIG x-overs in the 90s where they were replaced by 'hipper' versions. Superman died and got Last Son of Krypton. Bats back was broken + we got Jean Paul Valley. Spidey's a clone=Ben Reilly
Ok I just realized that ben is just a clone. It is just I though that he was the real peter parker
anybody else think that scarlett spider would be cool to see in spiderman 4?
Why the fuck does everyone say that "Ben was like a twin of Peter and knew what it was like to be him" man that's so obvious! He is a CLONE! The clone has all the memories of Peter Parker until the point of its creation!! So hell yes he know's what it's like to be him. Because the clone basically IS Peter Parker, just not the "original" one. He has EXACTLY the same personality and EXACTLY the same memories (up to a certain point)
i didnt get the end?
@Matriculon on a shock level it was good. from a fans perspecive it was bad bcos u felt cheated for all thsoe years u read Spider-Man bcos he wasnt the REAL Spidey. in hindsight tho when u read it knowing that in the end Ben isn't the original i enjoy it much more bcos, u know that at the end of the day no real damage was done, Ben was Spidey for a while and then he wasn't end of story.
i hav 2 say the whole spider carnage in the comics wasnt so good but wat i hated in the tv show was the fact that they made ben reiley 2 b the real spiderman n spider carnage basically destroys himself although they do get away with it because it "happened in a different dimension" but still