Hey man, that’s terrifying! What if you were in Vietnam, and you heard the trees laughing. You get ready to shoot at them when you realize it: your pants fell down! How embarrassing! It truly was brutal out there.
Depends on the war and us at home. Every time we try free and save people from fascists, commies, or taliban yall freak out and say stop. Let us fight make military mandatory
@@gyurmethlodroe1774 you ass that's is one hundred percent false the other country's have treated soldiers a trillion times worse Our government follows our peoples. Ideas our population is filled with leftys who don't want other people free as their selfish. Their against every war we ever fight. Even the ones where we were attacked or our allies were attacked first. VETS IN AMERICA ARE ONLY TREATED LIKE SHIT IN DEMOCRAP BLUE STATES.
Funny I never had any real issues. Then I was smart enough to get a medical exam and list everything that hurt. A lot of young soldiers wanted to go home. So did I but a year away, what's a few more days? A friend more days is a written legal document obligating Uncle Sam to acknowledge that limp that pain, that etc. Most of that stuff is minor and goes away on its own, but if it becomes more serious then you have proof.
I’m sure my grandfather would get a real laugh out of this. Considering he joined the navy to avoid getting drafted, got injured playing football so was enlisted in the navy and drafted into the army at the same time. Served 5 years with a busted leg that would’ve barred anyone else from service and had to fight with the V. A. to get them to cover the trauma his service caused to the injury. Got so mad at the military he forbade my father from joining. Nicest guy you’d ever meet, God rest his soul.
Yeah, the Military has as many problems as it does good things, with more trending towards the former recently. A lot of my family on my dad's side served, and they have my utmost respect... but I also was treated to stories of the parts of enlistment that the propaganda experts would rather not be spread around.
Only a FOOL would trust the government with their money, let lone their freedom. They OWN you. From the Supreme Court: "Compelled military service is neither repugnant to a free government nor in conflict with the constitutional guaranties of individual liberty. Indeed, it may not be doubted that the very conception of a just government and its duty to the citizen includes the duty of the citizen to render military service in case of need, and the right of the government to compel it." So you don't have the inalienable right to life and liberty; just "constitutional guaranties" that the government can read any way it wants. ( _Selective Draft Law Cases,_ 245 U.S. 366)
@@SovereignStatesman War changes the course of things that you get accustomed to in normal life. The liberties you cited were designed to work based on the assumption that the environment is peaceful. When your country is at war, especially when it undergoes an ordeal and its strength is put to the limits it means the end of the lifestyle you enjoyed. There aren't any means to change that order on our planet.
Literally what my grandfather did. He was going to get drafted to Vietnam, so he enlisted in the Air National Guard. Got his draft letter the next day too, but since he was in, he became an engineer stationed in the States. Later became a LTC.
I used to work with a guy who told me that once he was sure the Vietnam draft was going to start, ran down to the recruiting office to enlist...in the navy.
He didn't happen to be George W. Bush, did He? I was briefly in ROTC, in 1969, at Ohio State. It was mandatory, and I could have come out, a Second Lieutenant, in The Army. Many Male Students opted to go into The Air Force, Navy, or Marine ROTC, but they only accepted recruits. Either way, that was all the taste I needed, as an Army ROTC "draftee", even though I got an A, in Military Science 101, the Pre-Civil War Military History, of the United States, and might have qualified, for the Honor Guard (Snazzy Uniform: Army Standard Dress, but with a Silver, or Gold Helmet, and a gold kerchief (I think it's called).). Anyway, this was right before the protests, at OSU; and doing away with that ROTC requirement, so I was happy, about that. I took two courses, in Spanish; to complete the requirement, drew a high number, in the Lottery, and, that was that. After seeing what happened to Army Personnel, exposed to smoke, from burning oil wells, and burning trash, incidentally breathing in toxic, carcinogenic; smoke; I'm glad I didn't have to serve. Two phrases I heard, talking to people, who did serve: "The equipment is not expendable; You, are." and, "There are three ways, of doing things: The Right Way, The Wrong Way, and, The Army Way, which is the Wrong Way; but takes twice as long, and requires a lot of paperwork." A final note: Military Science, at Ohio State University; was mandatory, for Men. For Women, it was optional. There were many attractive women, in the WAC Program, and they were drilled, by the ROTC Instructor, himself; no Cadet Officers, for these girls!
Korean war broke out my grandpa and his two brothers were drafted from Cornell University. Because they already had a college education and they were all crop duster pilots they were given decent positions in the Marines.
@@rodrudinger9902 Small world. My father-in-law was the commandant of the ROTC at Ohio State at about that time. Until his dying day he was bitter about the protests, as he was from an old-school military family. Second-generation West Point. He didn't even let his sons wear denim jeans, that's how old-school he was.
Smart, Agent Orange gave our boys Cancer guess if the enemy didn't kill them the U.S Government will. also yes they knew they aren't idiots soulless possible but not idiots.
It is like those "click it or ticket" ads they ran for seatbelts states side or those British 'always watching' posters with a giant eye on them. How tone deaf do you have to be not to realize that will make people hate you?
That's not what they said. It was "call on the army before the army calls on you" as in better to volunteer and get some benefits in case your country gets attacked and you get drafted anyway. Considering it was post ww2 it's no surprise. I'm european, not even a native english speaker and got that... If you wanna crap on something at least do it for the right reasons instead of ignorance. It just makes you look bad.
funny how they make the tank corps out to be this untouchable group of juggernauts, my grandpa was a tank commander and he nearly died getting mortared in korea
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 anti-tank weapon are currently very cheap and the old version are still useful and still being used by a lot of Contractors. I think you can buy 3-4 outdated launchers for the cost of one latest anti-tank not including the projectiles.
It's a cartoon and generally speaking, in the cartoon world, little fictional characters want to stay away from the big bad animals of the house. Don't you watch looney tunes man?
The draft was not a fun thing. My grandfather was drafted into the army during the Korean War (1950-1952). He emphasized that he did not volunteer. When the war ended there was no parade, celebration, or beautiful girls running into their arms, except who they left behind. He was lucky to come back alive, but he said that he was no hero.
Michael Ojeda, murder and destroy others' lives for the profit and rise in power of some rich guys -- or go to jail for some time with a sentence everybody will understand. He made his choice. Too bad he did not pay for it.
Shade Intervention in the Korean War prevented the entire peninsula from being taken over by the autocratic, unfree, and unprosperous North. Dodging the draft also forces someone else to have to fight the war.
tree fiddy, oh the shock, the horror! Autocratic, unfree and even... unprosperous?! Didn't you ever ask yourself how the whole world strangling one country's economics might make it unprosperous? Don't you understand the connection between constant death threat to everyone and society becoming less free and more autocratic? And if murdering countless civilians and destroying a contry to reach such goals seems fair to you, I rest my case. If not -- think a bit about work conditions in South Korea. Besides, I understand you haven't heard of any examples of the same kind of government succeeding in being both prosperous and free? Choosing to participate in a war crime is always a personal decision. And yes, if most people in US told their government that they don't need this war, it wouldn't happen. Also, if "someone else" takes part in such a predatory action and commits war crimes instead of you, you're not guilty of these, are you?
In the beginning, the South was just as repressive and authoritarian as the North, if not more. Look up Syngman Rhee and Park Chung-hee. Look up the Jeju uprising. The RoK only achieved liberal democracy in 1997 as a result of several waves of popular struggle over the previous decades.
You are right! That is why the Korean War is known as the " Forgotten War ". There wasn't anything like you mention above that happened when World War II ended.
You can have a life following your dreams, learning a profession or taking a career, you can fall in love, start a family, start a business, get a house, be with your family when they need you, improve your community and then travel around the world/retire ... or you can join the army.
Some can join the army lose their limbs come home be a burden on the family get cheated on by your wife get disrespected by your kids lose it all and live happily on the street with a cardboard sign
My dad wanted to join any service right after Pearl Harbor, but at 16 he still needed his folks' permission. They refused it until he graduated HS in mid-'43. Had he signed up in '41 he'd likely have been thrown into the Army infantry and sent to North Africa. As it was, the Navy got him in '43 and noticed he was already a HAM radio operator, so they made him an airborne electronics service technician -- safe work. It's probably why I and my sisters are here today.
@@roderickstockdale1678 A "Home AMateur" radio operator. There's a Morse Code transcription test, legal test, and couple others you have to pass to get your license to broadcast.
Wouldn't call burning in a Sherman (and they always burned, they where even nicknamed "Johnny lighter" by the Germans) "fine and dandy", but oh well...
As a former Drafty myself in the national Greek Armed Forces, I can say that although I was luckily never sent to any war, though 911 happened while I was in and was afraid WW III was gonna happen. I at least remember how much of my freedom I lost in those 18 months of service and how the army and government loved to abuse their "Ownership" of me. It wasn't until the last 8 months things started to go the way they were supposed to for me, but I remember it took me another 6 months after I became a civilian again to adjust and my nightmares of slavery stayed with me for two years after that. Looking back now as a man who struggled to get a foot back in the door of life, and lost about 2 years of the best of my life (19-21) I think can see now that a lot of potential was wasted and not just for me, but for all the Ralph Fillips who had dreams of being more in the future were cut short for the greed of governments to send poor men to go off and fight their wars. I respect the soldier, I hate the war. Life is short and time is precious.
dood i don't think we drafted for iraq, im pretty sure someone goofed on you big time, you see this black man? (hands you picture of saddam) "induced catatonic screaming"
Yes, a cartoon about sneaking into your house and putting propaganda into your DREAMS is definitely the best way to make the army seem friendly and non-threatening
I AM PHENOMENAL I agree with the comment above me, there are wayyyyyyy too many Marine Soldiers out there, I'm sure the training is hard, but can't be that bad if there's sooooooooooooo many people in there. I don't even know why it's so popular; pffft few my fucking ass.
Caesar Augustus what I mean is like when they talked about uniforms being either to big or to small to fit. my boots were 14 and a half and I was only 12. they do that to make you tough.
I AM PHENOMENAL Idk man, it feels like everybody's a frkn Marine! 😂 If there's only 200,000 then talk about bad! If it weren't for our weaponry, we'd be in pretty bad shape right now.
Hmm, no mention of getting shot, seeing your friends get shot, getting limbs blown off or the years of psychological trauma that follow. Gee, it's almost like this cartoon was trying mislead people.
Tattorack it’s almost like this is a propaganda film ore something. What am I saying? That’s commie talk! I’m going down to enlist right now! Better dead than red!
Well due back in the day you didn’t really need a high school diploma so the army’s pray was the young and dumb17 to 18 year old kid that dropped out to work at a mill some place In bumb fuck now where trust me my grandpa was one of those kids lol
Oh, Beetle Bailey definitely got under the Army's skin. In fact, Mort Walker told a story of how the Army pestered the feature syndicates to come up with an adventure strip involving the Army like Milton Caniff's Steve Canyon centered around an Air Force colonel. Army representatives specifically complained, or so Walker said, that the Air Force had Steve Canyon and "all we have is Beetle Bailey."
@Iafiv Iv Definitely so. One thing Walker and Mauldin shared was experience in the draftee army that, for all its competence, was essentially civilians temporarily wearing olive drab, an experience they shared with a lot of men in the 1950s and 1960s, including men in the entertainment industry. So you had the "service comedies" like Gomer Pyle and Sgt. Bilko (actually called "You'll Never Get Rich" but who remembers that?) and "Wackiest Ship in the Army" because, hey, you write what you know. There were also humorous stories and novellas too numerous to mention, some of the best by retired Adm. Dan Gallery. Even Beetle Bailey was once much more tightly and smartly written and drawn, and slightly subversive. Get your hands on a collection of Beetle strips from the late 60s, early 70s and contrast it with the phoned-in assembly line it is today.
The Beetle Bailey strip depicts an Army that (if it existed at all) was during that 10 minute break between Korea and Vietnam. Nothing in that cartoon is recognizable to anyone who has served after 1960.... I was in the Army during the late 80's early 90's, and was amused at how lame and irrelevant to my Army service that strip was....and that was 15 years ago!! Why is it still printed? Who is it for?!?
My grandpa joined the Air Force because it was his only way off of Guam as a young man. The military shaped his life such a positive way. I think this old cartoon was actually setting realistic expectations for new recruits back in the day. Sadly it’s a far far cry from how the military (or almost any major employer for that matter) treats new recruits today.
I remember talking to my grandfather about his time in the military, he told me he was shown all the best ways you could knock out a tank. One day he was offered to ride in a tank, but once you know every way to turn a tank into a hearse, you stop wanting to get inside one.
Like i was told once, "A good portion of the officers time is making sure the troops are to bussy to be bored. Bored troopers tend to get creative. Creative troopers plays with equipment in ways that will cause problems for everyone."
u wait I already learned that> Did basic training as a Sea Cadet. We had to move gravel around around yellow-painted rocks with our hands for reasons unknown for two hours.
I find it funny. The boy had dreams and aspirations, becoming a doctor, an astronaut, or being rich and famous. Then he joined the military, and like that, all those dreams were dashed in a rain of gunfire and screaming.
Dreaming youth : I'm becoming an adult, I could become anything if I just avoid this stupid draft. Draft Imp : Yeah but think of all the well-groomed, uniform clad kissable boys you'd not be meeting.
Definitely true about the Navy. Would be trying to use the bathroom and hear some dude having an orgasm in there at 11:30 at night. Went to another department's bathroom instead. Would NOT recommend joining. Avoid the draft if it comes.
The Founding Fathers unanimously opposed having a large standing army, and sure enough, the huge military establishment left over after WW2 led to nothing but trouble and still does.
Is funny that the founding fathers actually are smart and following their beliefs is actually good, but people nowadays, especially BLM are opposed the founding fathers
@@wanderingcommenter4638 because at the end of the day they were just (white and generally rich) men that lived more than 200 years ago, many of them supported slavery and owned slave and a lot of them will probably considered the modern american democracy a nightmare ( black, women and poor whites can vote? The president can do what? There are political party?).
Whats missing was the fact that only small percentage of High School enlistees would qualify for those prestigious placements, in fact most who did were OCS college educated. The rest ended up doing less than glamorous tours. But back then one thing about this cartoon was very true, you were better off, often WAY better volunteering instead of waiting to get drafted. You could choose the branch of service and often had some preference over which fields you could train in. Waiting to get drafted almost guaranteed a job pushing a rifle in a muddy bog.
Volunteering to be the man pushing that rifle in a muddy bog can also put you in a "glamorous job" you had no idea even existed. Been there, done that. Personally, while I know that there are lots of support jobs in the Army, I couldn't imagine joining to do anything other than combat arms, but that is just me. I noticed they didn't mention one HUUUGE factor in those placement promises. To get placement you have to pass all your training classes. If they need 10 interpreters, and you place #12 in your class...Welcome to the Infantry ! When I went through Infantry School at Fort Benning, the guy in the bunk next to me had gone through the experience I just described. Not only that, the military can cancel that agreement at any time should they decide they need people doing something else. The needs of the service ALWAYS come first. (Yes, it IS in your enlistment contract).
I would have been a conscientious objectors so hard. Is that a term? Google Translater says it is. Probably comes whit realy shitty backlash, Prison, or high Money Sentances.
@@Sunaki1000 Yes, it is a thing. It comes with needing to be proven to be long-standing in nature (you have to show history of being opposed to war, most easily done based on faith), and generally still lead to “alternative (non-combat) service”, doing support work of some sort (my grandfather wound up as a cook on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific during WWII). Refuse that, and I suspect it would have lead to jail.
Kinda creepy that the tiny Amy guy is like “Can’t wake the parents or they freak out” Most parents Greek out because they don’t want a dead kid or a kid with ptsd
@@D3sertGh0st PTSD doesn't just apply for combat. Being shouted at, going through training and being punished for even the slightest mistakes can still leave a mark on a man, you know.
@@D3sertGh0st most people that get PTSD are in non-combat roles, psychologists think its got to do with being less mentally prepared as they think they won't see combat, when in reality even poorly armed insurgents will often have mortars and other weapons to harass non-combat personal.
@@Imnotsmg4bob don't be silly. you don't get PTSD from training and commands. non-cons get PTSD from being exposed to combat or its aftermath. just because the army says you are non-combat doesn't mean the enemy won't shoot at you.
Yes, I realize that many of those commenting probably had differing experiences, but for my father, service in the US Army actually did set his life onto a very successful course. A rural boy from Kentucky, newly married at 18 with a coming baby (myself) and no real prospects to support a family with college out of the question, my father enlisted in the US Army under this very program. He was trained as a Medical Technologist and served in a US Army hospital in Orleans, France. He served from 1959-62 and came home fully accredited to work in any medical lab. After a few years working as a staff Tech he eventually became General Manager of a private lab, and then finally executive GM over a hospital laboratory system. (He did eventually pick up the College degree). I realize that his timing was fortunate as he missed Vietnam, but my Dad always had good things to say about his Army experiences.
I think that most of people know that. What everyone is making fun of here is the way the U.S. Army advertises the benefits of social mobility to potential recruits while downplaying the dark and damaging implications of service. This video is especially funny because it shows that the military has not fundamentally changed its recruitment message since the 1950's. Particularly, people in my generation (born around 9/11) have this super weird relationship with propaganda. Because we literally grew up alongside smartphones, the internet, and War in the Middle East, we've observed military recruitment methods shifting to accommodate changing technology and politics in the same ways have. Ten years ago the Army released ads where recruits fought fantasy monsters; this played into the popularity of video game systems like the Wii or Playstation at the time and alluded to the military's message to the public that, although the war would be in a deadlock for the foreseeable future, it was still a fight of "good vs. evil." The military's recruitment message grows more sophisticated and every day appeals more specifically to the politics and interests of their target demographic. So, its funny to see that the same core criticism that we have today about military recruitment are visible here: the massive disconnect between the actions of/experience of being in the military and the way the armed forces present themselves to the public. The ad is so bold in its deceptions about service (like saying the Drill Sargents will be Medal of Honor winners, not mean NCOs) and so obvious in applying advertising tricks (like saying that becoming a soldier will make us sexier) that it functions better as a parody of recruitment techniques than a legitimate advertisement.
I guess I'm one of the few success stories. I enlisted in '99 between my junior and senior year of high school. College wouldn't have been an option for me. Once I was in I started getting regular meals (prior to enlisting I considered myself lucky if I ate two meals a day). After I got out I was able to go to college for free and get a BS in Aviation. College allowed me to network and being a combat vet gave me preferential treatment for hiring which is how I now have a successful career with a utility company. And the VA just allowed me to buy a house that I wouldn't have been able to afford otherwise. I also get free healthcare through the VA, which on the west coast is pretty good.
@@posthumousc4913 Overall the VA is #1 in patient outcomes and has been for decades. It gets a bad rap from the media but mostly because it isn't corporate and is govt run. To give an example to other readers, for my major surgery there were 15 doctors at two hospitals on my case; ten of which were in the surgery room. Clearly, no corners cut. And yet, the cost of the surgery was about 40% of what the private market was charging. VA is ridiculously efficient. In addition to that, they've got medical errors down to less than 1/10th of 1% which is excellent given that medical errors are one of the biggest causes of death in America today. That's all St. Elsewhere and St. Hedgefund hospital networks, which rarely get criticized in the media and never as vehemently. A really good book on this is called "Best Care Anywhere: Why VA Healthcare Is Better Than Yours."
yes sir, I am a senior also growing up on them as well, just a quick correction or addendum about the Warners couldn't let your comment pass. The Warner's were actually born in Warsaw, Poland, all but Jack who was born in (London, Ontario) when they immigrated there, as you noted. However; my hometown of Youngstown, Ohio is what they called home. The original Warner studio and base operations were in Youngstown, and the first Warner studio's were in nearby PA, one was in Sharon, PA. and the other was the cascade Theatre in nearby New Castle, Pa., of course later in the century operations would relocate to California. Just to clarify!
Ralphie later died in Vietnam, alone and afraid in a jungle thousands of miles from home. A war we never should have been involved in, a death that never needed to happen. But we put his name on a wall! So we never forget how we got him killed.
Know your time line. Ralphie enlisted in 1957 and was stationed in either Germany or Korea. The hostilities had stopped and unless he was a high speed special operator, he wouldn't have gone to Vietnam in an "advisory" role until 1958. Went home after 2 years and got a manufacturing job somewhere most likely.
@@paramagician That's actually about the time my uncle "enlisted." He and some of his buddies jumped one of their high school teachers and the judge basically told him prison or army. He was in Germany.
Garth Ennis taught me all I need to know about the military and serving my country: "You fight the wars they start. You kill the monsters they create. You die handling uranium while they get rich off of oil. I'm not going back to war just so Colt can sell off it's machine gun surplus. I had enough of that in Vietnam." "That's not how it works." "There's 50,000 guys in D.C. who'd say otherwise. Except they can't because they're nothing but names on a black wall."
fellas made sound "give up your dreams to go and be shot in foreign lands" like "Dear Mr Potter, You have been accepted to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry", damn the amount of idiots that fell for that
@@ruckerbrady8342 well courage and stupidity go hand in hand. Not to insult those who serve but the harsh truth is that alot of those young men were lied to into thinking that they were going to get great opportunities and the worst of all was that they were going to protect their country. That may have been true in WW 2 but after that everything went to shit. The main purpose of the soldier is to do one single thing and that is to kill. Not protect, not be a better person or even be a good member of society. The armys main goal is to train them to follow orders and kill the enemy. Thats it. And now alot of people know that war sucks and that soldiers are disposable individuals .
Kumamon Yes, it's a little known fact that homo sapiens lost this ability during the latter half of the 20th century due to the introduction of the double mirror, allowing us to see our butts without doing this.
Bet people who have served in the present would get a good laugh out of this. I couldn't join the military due to a work related accident I had where I lost all sight from my left eye,my right one works twice as hard to compensate. But a few buddies of mine joined and after their tour told me it was more dreadful than cruel. As in serving in the military felt like doing chores 50% harder for an asshole stepfather 😂
Yeah this was lolz all over the place. I scored 79 on general technology on my ASVAB and I was a combat engineer. Most of the other kids in boot camp got 40s overall.
Yeah. For the most part, the concept of meritocracy was gone in the Army by the time I joined in 2016. It was centralized around your APFT Scores, doing random, pointless credited Army "courses", schools, and qualifications at the range. Nothing that had to do with your competency as a leader, or your ability to teach or perform the tasks and drills of your respective MOS. I had plentiful NCO's who were absolutely not worthy of being NCO's because their objective was to also be a leader in maintaining aircraft in the Army. But when a Private can sit there, chuckle, and point out how the NCO is wrong when doing something... Its bad. Its what happens when the Army ends up focusing on pointless credentials and fundamental things that should be necessary as just a soldier, rather than the stuff that would make being an NCO in your respective MOS important and necessary as a team leader and expert.
You didn't miss much dude. And think of it this way. As useful as you would have been to the army, the same effort and aptitude would probably count for more, and would definitely mean more, to an actual human being in the real world than it would to an organization who's sole purpose is mass destruction in the name of defense.
Interesting. 1957. My dad was class of 57. He was drafted right after he married my mom, before my older brother was born, but they rejected him due to a heart condition he didn't even know he had. He is 83 this month. I was born a couple years later. His heart condition is the reason I am here. Strange how things work out.
“the army isn’t interested in putting you in the wrong size clothing” me in Paris island trying to hold my 2XL parachute looking trousers up while sprinting across a combat course
The diploma represents what you learned. And education in America is like intelligence in the FBI. Sure it probably exists, but no one can really point to it anymore.
@@sleepy1697, not exactly. It doesn't represent education, it represents commitment. Pre WWII studies have revealed that high school dropouts are up to 40% more likely to go AWOL or desert, which is why today's, and for the last several decades, military, only accepts high school graduates. Even Good Enough Diploma holders have to jump through hoops to join, it isn't automatic.
Sure this is what they said it was like, but when I got in the army it was just a bunch of morons running around in circles asking "How do i quick-scope?"
I am not whining I am complaining. When I joined the army, they didn't even assign you a position. Everyone somehow kept changing their field of expertise in minutes. How the hell do you go from a professional field medic who barely uses a gun, to a professional sniper doing headshots at 200 meter ranges and THEN ,against your will, turned into a suicide bomber by your own team.
This video is like a time capsule from a time before me that I'll never know. I'm sure that while we rightly criticize the government now for what happened to many veterans, that back then, what they were being told about the army in videos like these was believed to be true by many and I have a feeling that the system really did work for a lot of folks, but as history has shown us, it was far from perfect.
The system will always be in favour of itself, but we'd be doing a disservice to all the people who got swept under the rug if we acted like the past was any different. We haven't heard of all the people getting screwed in this time period only because their suffering didn't amount to a change - their stories were hidden and died hidden.
Not if you were black though. My fiance did a whole paper on how black veterans from Korea to Vietnam era were basically screwed out of most promised benefits.
"The way they tell it, basic training is supposed to be nothing but KP, obstacle courses, and being chewed out by a bunch of sadistic sergeants." Wait, it's not? Did I go to the wrong place?
"So enlist now, so things will be GOOD when you go in." "I am Gunnery Sergeant Hartman." "What side was that Private Wilson!" "What is this Mickey Mouse shit? Why is Private Wilson holding that weapon?!!!!"
Those of us who actually served remember our drill instructor/Company Commander with fondness and gratitude. They were there to get us ready for service in the military and they only had 8 weeks to do it. When I think of the change I and others went through in those two short months, it boggles my mind. Hartman was getting guys from all walks of life and pushing them as hard as he could so they might have a chance on the battlefield. It was something Kubrick never accepted, but which R. Lee Ermey fully understood.
tabletennisrubysuet oh no, it still works. Drill Sgt is there to train you, but no one said he had to act happy about it. And yes you will be doing bullshit busy work most of the time (especially if you didn't pick a particularly technical branch). Everything holds up to my experience from 2004-2010.
Well most of the military was volunteer anyways back then. It just wasn't ALL volunteer like it is now. Granted we still sort of have conscription, thanks to Selective Service, but you're not going to see the draft come back because it's politically unpopular.
Despite it being propaganda to convince graduates to enlist before they eventually get drafted, it's still enjoyable as a cartoon! I mean, this is Warner Bros we're talking about, even their propaganda is hilarious!
@@jonathanwilliams1065 The army isn‘t made for peacetime though. Especially the US seems to have the habit of actively looking for conflict if they haven‘t got an active war they can burn their people in anymore.
@@blacky_Ninja the army starts watch in case of war during peacetime Especially during the Cold War when we expected the Russians to attack in Germany at any moment
And all that "support the troops" stuff was just talk. After you're out, you're basically on your own. The VA benefits are pathetic, the education benefits are oversold and under delivered, and the "life-long bonds" are probably going to be a couple of guys you call maybe once every couple of years. Oh, and the pay is laughable.
Given that I stand six-foot and was still fitted with an extra-small plate carrier prior to my Afghanistan deployment, I'd say there's at least few kinks in the Army's war machine when it comes down to fulfilling the (basic) needs of their soldiers.
@@jeanmichel8919 I was noting how they still fail to properly size their rank and file to accommodate them in a wartime environment, even decades after this cartoon pokes fun at them for it.
Ten percent 'dislike' rate. Could it be that when the draft ended in '73, those enticing career promises and non-combat positions made by recruiters turned out to be dead-end lies?
This cartoon would make my dad spit. He grew up poor in rural KY during Vietnam and the local draft board was as crooked as they come. He passed his physical, despite being underweight. Most of the local boys were, and the doctor would tell them to get off the scales, put their shoes back on, and get on again. If you had $500, you could be seen by a doctor who would fail you immediately. They kept trying to draft my dad even when they weren't supposed to, like when someone from the area had already volunteered. One time, the woman who headed the draft board stuck her finger in his face and said, "I WILL get you!" He shot back, "Maybe you will, but it'll be legally!" Finally, he avoided the draft by winning the draft lottery. Many of his friends got slaughtered over there. Dad always says, "I know I would have died, because I'd never have been able to bring myself to shoot someone." He is EXTREMELY bitter about Vietnam and the military to this day. I'll never forget camping with him and some of his buddies when I was a kid. Of course, they'd been throwing back the beers. One of his friends, who had been deep in the jungles and seen horrible things, started talking about the woman from the draft board. The hair on my arms stood up when he drunkenly slurred, "That woman will burn in hell for what she did to us kids. And that's all we was, was kids."
This is around when my wife's grandpa went in the army reserves. He knew his draft number was coming up so went enlisted. He did the minimum required time and got out. Now I'm in the uscg reserves and I tell him all I do and he said "if I had fun like that in the army I'd stayed in!"
I think an oversized uniform is the least of your concerns when in the military. And tbh if i were ever forced to join, id rather be peeling potatoes my whole term than getting deployed
careful, field kitchens are hard to hide, are priority targets (killing a few potatoe pealers reduces the armie's overall effectiveness more than the smae number of combat soldiers, hungry soldiers don't fight well) and are within range of the enemy (as they need to be close enough to the men to provide food). besides draftees and conscripts don't get to choose their role, that is a privledge of volunteers. draftees go where they are needed. luckily for you the tooth-to-tail ratio (combat soldiers to non-combat soldiers) in modern armies is high, useually over 1:5 in times of serious war [wheen drafts are called] it balloons even further, usually well above 1:12. in vietnam for example it eventually got to almost 1:15 ie for every 1 frontline soldier there were just under 15 noncombat soldiers)
That moment when he says "you will look more and more like a soldier or a man" 🤣 Just wondering how many boys and (actual) men got bamboozeled into joining the living hell of Vietnam war after seeing this "educational" cartoon. All we can do is wonder ofc since they themselves are long gone, pushing up daisies underneath vietnamese jungles and rice fields half a world away.
While this wasn't released during the time of Vietnam you still have a point about how these sorts of Propaganda videos are total bullshit. They trick people into willingly throwing themselves into a meat grinder.
@@ChronicUnderachiever420 Actually back in those days they would show these cartoons in the movie theater before the feature presentation started. So plenty of men would also have seen this.
Getting yelled at for having black mold in your barracks that was made during ww2 and ice in your freezer by an alcoholic 25 year old cpl with 2 DUIs and a failed marriage
One of three military films the Warner Bros. cartoon studio shot in Technicolor in the 1950's, the other two being 90 Day Wondering and A Hitch In Time. During WWII WB made the Private Snafu training films. All of the directors on staff took turns with the character, with Mel Blanc and Frank Graham doing the voices. They were funny in a more mature sort of way.
My son just went off to basic training. I showed him this video and we got a good chuckle. I went through it too, just like millions of others. The bullshit that you're told to expect is just that. Bullshit.
Reserved For You, Yeah right. I joined the USAF with a promised position(Security Police) completed Basic to become a glorified Taxi Driver(4392nd Trans) Went into the ARNG to become an Armored Scout, got placed into Food Service for rest of my Career. Both times the Need of the Military overrides yours.
I served, but no one should ever have to serve by force. You may have to take a life one day or put yours on the line. You may become completely disabled and disfigured. So by that, NOBODY should be forced into that position or go to jail. I don't regret my service, but I wouldn't want my son to go. EVER. Especially since our government simply keeps wasting the money we entrusted to them and creates more laws that help the rich, who almost NEVER serve, and screws the average person.
Right around when this cartoon was released, my grandfather enlisted in the Marine Corps. But he did it so he wasn't drafted later and get his military service over with. As soon as he was out, he went back to normal life.
I love he has these big dreams of being an explorer or a great scientist and instead the films about “hey forget curing cancer learn how to shoot” Growing up in a military family I can confirm from my grandpa this is as accurate a statement as any
uncle volunteered for Vietnam (navy) and served 20 years..wasnt PTSD or any war wounds that eventually killed him, was a blood transfusion in the 70s from a motorcycle crash..Taught me alot of things..how to use a radio, how to fix a vehicle and how to hunt and skin a deer (he was half Comanche). I miss him terribly, but i doubt hed want to live in todays world..
Being in the military, at least for 4 years, is overall a good experience. It teaches you discipline and responsibility. It also makes working a civilian job so much easier by comparison. If you can make it in the service, you can make it anywhere.
I remember watching this in the 60's, and my older brother was in the Army, and the cartoon, and my brother were close, but my brother said, its much harder then you think, but if you live through or graduate, you will do great. Now days, only the ones who have been there, can say.
Yes, I'm very sure a major reason guys in the 50's/60's were afraid of getting drafted was "what if they give me the wrong sized uniform!"
Hey man, that’s terrifying! What if you were in Vietnam, and you heard the trees laughing. You get ready to shoot at them when you realize it: your pants fell down! How embarrassing! It truly was brutal out there.
@@vegeta_69420 Roger that conquistador Pablo XD
Rockabye nonya in the tree tops when the wind blows youll STFU.. We need more bodies for the great war... So stop making sense and scaring them all
@Sodham G'morris You won't care.
This is before Vietnam really got going
He made boot camp sound like the Boy Scouts
Well they want people to join don’t they? Plus, the Boy Scouts was a way to prepare for the military.
Basic training is like summer camp for adults, unless you are a constant fuck up and the D.S./D.I. gets to know you.
@@BlastinRope true words
It is summer camp for adults.
@@BlastinRope And how they just love to make new friends lmfao
"You'll learn skills that other people will respect after."
Oh yes. Totally. Veterans were "always" well respected and taken care of.
Depends on the war and us at home. Every time we try free and save people from fascists, commies, or taliban yall freak out and say stop. Let us fight make military mandatory
"You Ass Ah" is the only country where veterans die of hunger
@@gyurmethlodroe1774 russia is too, ww2 veterans
@@gyurmethlodroe1774 you ass that's is one hundred percent false the other country's have treated soldiers a trillion times worse Our government follows our peoples. Ideas our population is filled with leftys who don't want other people free as their selfish. Their against every war we ever fight. Even the ones where we were attacked or our allies were attacked first. VETS IN AMERICA ARE ONLY TREATED LIKE SHIT IN DEMOCRAP BLUE STATES.
Funny I never had any real issues. Then I was smart enough to get a medical exam and list everything that hurt. A lot of young soldiers wanted to go home. So did I but a year away, what's a few more days? A friend more days is a written legal document obligating Uncle Sam to acknowledge that limp that pain, that etc. Most of that stuff is minor and goes away on its own, but if it becomes more serious then you have proof.
I’m sure my grandfather would get a real laugh out of this. Considering he joined the navy to avoid getting drafted, got injured playing football so was enlisted in the navy and drafted into the army at the same time. Served 5 years with a busted leg that would’ve barred anyone else from service and had to fight with the V. A. to get them to cover the trauma his service caused to the injury. Got so mad at the military he forbade my father from joining. Nicest guy you’d ever meet, God rest his soul.
As a wise man once said “could’ve gone pro if I didn’t join the navy!”
Yeah, the Military has as many problems as it does good things, with more trending towards the former recently. A lot of my family on my dad's side served, and they have my utmost respect... but I also was treated to stories of the parts of enlistment that the propaganda experts would rather not be spread around.
Only a FOOL would trust the government with their money, let lone their freedom.
They OWN you. From the Supreme Court:
"Compelled military service is neither repugnant to a free government nor in conflict with the constitutional guaranties of individual liberty. Indeed, it may not be doubted that the very conception of a just government and its duty to the citizen includes the duty of the citizen to render military service in case of need, and the right of the government to compel it."
So you don't have the inalienable right to life and liberty; just "constitutional guaranties" that the government can read any way it wants. ( _Selective Draft Law Cases,_ 245 U.S. 366)
@@SovereignStatesman War changes the course of things that you get accustomed to in normal life. The liberties you cited were designed to work based on the assumption that the environment is peaceful. When your country is at war, especially when it undergoes an ordeal and its strength is put to the limits it means the end of the lifestyle you enjoyed. There aren't any means to change that order on our planet.
Sounds like my kind of guy. Good man.
Yeah, it's all sunshine and butterflies untill the trees start speaking vietnamese.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 funniest comment
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Not true in battle the American Military never lose a battle. Tet was a military disaster for the communists.
Or when the mountains are speaking Dari
Literally what my grandfather did. He was going to get drafted to Vietnam, so he enlisted in the Air National Guard. Got his draft letter the next day too, but since he was in, he became an engineer stationed in the States. Later became a LTC.
I used to work with a guy who told me that once he was sure the Vietnam draft was going to start, ran down to the recruiting office to enlist...in the navy.
He didn't happen to be George W. Bush, did He?
I was briefly in ROTC, in 1969, at Ohio State. It was mandatory, and I could have come out, a Second Lieutenant, in The Army. Many Male Students opted to go into The Air Force, Navy, or Marine ROTC, but they only accepted recruits. Either way, that was all the taste I needed, as an Army ROTC "draftee", even though I got an A, in Military Science 101, the Pre-Civil War Military History, of the United States, and might have qualified, for the Honor Guard (Snazzy Uniform: Army Standard Dress, but with a Silver, or Gold Helmet, and a gold kerchief (I think it's called).). Anyway, this was right before the protests, at OSU; and doing away with that ROTC requirement, so I was happy, about that. I took two courses, in Spanish; to complete the requirement, drew a high number, in the Lottery, and, that was that. After seeing what happened to Army Personnel, exposed to smoke, from burning oil wells, and burning trash, incidentally breathing in toxic, carcinogenic; smoke; I'm glad I didn't have to serve. Two phrases I heard, talking to people, who did serve:
"The equipment is not expendable; You, are." and, "There are three ways, of doing things: The Right Way, The Wrong Way, and, The Army Way, which is the Wrong Way; but takes twice as long, and requires a lot of paperwork."
A final note: Military Science, at Ohio State University; was mandatory, for Men. For Women, it was optional. There were many attractive women, in the WAC Program, and they were drilled, by the ROTC Instructor, himself; no Cadet Officers, for these girls!
Korean war broke out my grandpa and his two brothers were drafted from Cornell University. Because they already had a college education and they were all crop duster pilots they were given decent positions in the Marines.
@@rodrudinger9902 Small world. My father-in-law was the commandant of the ROTC at Ohio State at about that time. Until his dying day he was bitter about the protests, as he was from an old-school military family. Second-generation West Point. He didn't even let his sons wear denim jeans, that's how old-school he was.
Smart, Agent Orange gave our boys Cancer guess if the enemy didn't kill them the U.S Government will. also yes they knew they aren't idiots soulless possible but not idiots.
too bad the army won't use that anti nightmare machine on people with PTSD
Oof
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Orhk
Damn, that was cold son LOL
They tried in the 60s, did not turn out well.
I laughed at the part where they implied that joining the army can make you dummy thicc
I keep giving away the company position from the Clapping of my ass cheeks
Maybe if you're in the Marines.
But you see more thin than thick people in the Army 😂
@@Off-with-a-bang Im going to enlist to become an ANTIFA Commander!
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 lmao
"Colonel, i am trying to sneak around but i am Dummy Thicc and the sound of my asscheeks keeps alerting the guards"
I like how they try to make the "Choose Before We Choose For You" slogan seen as anything other than coercive.
It is like those "click it or ticket" ads they ran for seatbelts states side or those British 'always watching' posters with a giant eye on them. How tone deaf do you have to be not to realize that will make people hate you?
That's not what they said. It was "call on the army before the army calls on you" as in better to volunteer and get some benefits in case your country gets attacked and you get drafted anyway. Considering it was post ww2 it's no surprise.
I'm european, not even a native english speaker and got that... If you wanna crap on something at least do it for the right reasons instead of ignorance. It just makes you look bad.
@@Adrian2140 "not even a native English speaker" explains a lot.
@@deplorabledegenerate2630 I'm not as cynical and/or actually had english classes?
@@Adrian2140 or you could just be stupid but I was trying not to be that cynical.
funny how they make the tank corps out to be this untouchable group of juggernauts, my grandpa was a tank commander and he nearly died getting mortared in korea
Propaganda man. They make it seem like it’s no big deal and you’re not being sent to die by an uncaring government.
It's literally a walking metal coffin.
@@HIDE-oj6ps not necessarily, but it is big and loud and a very hard to miss target
@@HIDE-oj6ps No its not. Especially when your enemy doesn't have a lot of anti-tank weapons.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 anti-tank weapon are currently very cheap and the old version are still useful and still being used by a lot of Contractors. I think you can buy 3-4 outdated launchers for the cost of one latest anti-tank not including the projectiles.
Funny how the army guy wants the dog to stay sleep, cus the dog is there to keep his master safe and out of harm
No doubt that's why I'm here today. Grandad joined Air Force to avoid being drafted in '51.
It's a cartoon and generally speaking, in the cartoon world, little fictional characters want to stay away from the big bad animals of the house. Don't you watch looney tunes man?
Of course, since the state gives itself priority over the individual.
Dtrollmancan Or the dog would fucking kill the midget
My granddad was drafted in 1954 and he was a vehicle mechanic. Being drafted does not equal a combat job.
The draft was not a fun thing. My grandfather was drafted into the army during the Korean War (1950-1952). He emphasized that he did not volunteer. When the war ended there was no parade, celebration, or beautiful girls running into their arms, except who they left behind. He was lucky to come back alive, but he said that he was no hero.
Michael Ojeda, murder and destroy others' lives for the profit and rise in power of some rich guys -- or go to jail for some time with a sentence everybody will understand. He made his choice. Too bad he did not pay for it.
Shade Intervention in the Korean War prevented the entire peninsula from being taken over by the autocratic, unfree, and unprosperous North. Dodging the draft also forces someone else to have to fight the war.
tree fiddy, oh the shock, the horror! Autocratic, unfree and even... unprosperous?! Didn't you ever ask yourself how the whole world strangling one country's economics might make it unprosperous? Don't you understand the connection between constant death threat to everyone and society becoming less free and more autocratic? And if murdering countless civilians and destroying a contry to reach such goals seems fair to you, I rest my case. If not -- think a bit about work conditions in South Korea. Besides, I understand you haven't heard of any examples of the same kind of government succeeding in being both prosperous and free?
Choosing to participate in a war crime is always a personal decision. And yes, if most people in US told their government that they don't need this war, it wouldn't happen. Also, if "someone else" takes part in such a predatory action and commits war crimes instead of you, you're not guilty of these, are you?
In the beginning, the South was just as repressive and authoritarian as the North, if not more. Look up Syngman Rhee and Park Chung-hee. Look up the Jeju uprising. The RoK only achieved liberal democracy in 1997 as a result of several waves of popular struggle over the previous decades.
You are right! That is why the Korean War is known as the " Forgotten War ". There wasn't anything like you mention above that happened when World War II ended.
"and you develp musles that youd didnt even know you had!"
*rotates neck 180 degrees around*.......O.o
OwO
Gaaaaay😂😂
Wtf
hahahhahaa
I saw that too
You can have a life following your dreams, learning a profession or taking a career, you can fall in love, start a family, start a business, get a house, be with your family when they need you, improve your community and then travel around the world/retire ... or you can join the army.
plenty of people do both.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Some even do neither.
Some can join the army lose their limbs come home be a burden on the family get cheated on by your wife get disrespected by your kids lose it all and live happily on the street with a cardboard sign
@@elcheche6561 And some can have something nearly identical to that outcome having never served the military a day in their lives.
@@jakzine540 yeah but it feels better to blame someone for your own misfortunes.misery loves company
"Why not call on the Army before the Army calls on you?" suddenly the stories my father told me about enlisting at 17 make a lot more sense
"Ah yeah I remember, I went to Vietnam because I watched a cartoon, but it was a really good one!"
The majority of people in Vietnam were volunteers.
so sorry about your people.
Apparently you went because a little troll snuck into your childhood home and brainwashed you in the middle of the night
@@kbtken dem propaganda trolls are scary man!
@@bulldogsbob the dead ones were mostly drafted, us not ra
yeah join the army and get to see paris, unless you're dropped into a jungle with unending rain, heat waves and trees whispering in vietnamese LMFAO
This was the 50s so instead it was freezing cold lol
@@mexicanbatman8157 And the rocks speak chinese...
God jungle combat would be great
In 1957 wasnt vietnam was still contested by France?
@@danilvinyukov2060 yes, America presence in small numbers
My dad wanted to join any service right after Pearl Harbor, but at 16 he still needed his folks' permission. They refused it until he graduated HS in mid-'43. Had he signed up in '41 he'd likely have been thrown into the Army infantry and sent to North Africa. As it was, the Navy got him in '43 and noticed he was already a HAM radio operator, so they made him an airborne electronics service technician -- safe work. It's probably why I and my sisters are here today.
Wow. Glad he is ok. What a good guy.
@@gravethebeyond he is dead
@@gravethebeyond did he say he was still alive? You should’ve asked
Or New Guinea. The 32nd division landed there in October ‘42. What’s a HAM by the way?
@@roderickstockdale1678 A "Home AMateur" radio operator. There's a Morse Code transcription test, legal test, and couple others you have to pass to get your license to broadcast.
The shadow army recruiter that lives in your dreams is genuinely frightening.
Love that thinly veiled threat at the end. "Call us before we call you!"
All fine and dandy....till Vietnam and the 60s shows up.
Wouldn't call burning in a Sherman (and they always burned, they where even nicknamed "Johnny lighter" by the Germans) "fine and dandy", but oh well...
the army rarely if ever used Sherman's in Vietnam. the most common tank would of been the Patton.
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クザン Nice profile picture.
not to mention "volunteering" far nuclear testing. That's always fun-fun-fun...!
As a former Drafty myself in the national Greek Armed Forces, I can say that although I was luckily never sent to any war, though 911 happened while I was in and was afraid WW III was gonna happen. I at least remember how much of my freedom I lost in those 18 months of service and how the army and government loved to abuse their "Ownership" of me. It wasn't until the last 8 months things started to go the way they were supposed to for me, but I remember it took me another 6 months after I became a civilian again to adjust and my nightmares of slavery stayed with me for two years after that. Looking back now as a man who struggled to get a foot back in the door of life, and lost about 2 years of the best of my life (19-21) I think can see now that a lot of potential was wasted and not just for me, but for all the Ralph Fillips who had dreams of being more in the future were cut short for the greed of governments to send poor men to go off and fight their wars. I respect the soldier, I hate the war. Life is short and time is precious.
Halia!
Try volunteering in Kossovo for 6 months.
Those 18 months were child's play.
Although the paycheck was great,i would prefer those 18 months anytime.
Deep. All it is are toy soldiers to the giant babies overlooking the battlefield carpet.
dood i don't think we drafted for iraq, im pretty sure someone goofed on you big time,
you see this black man? (hands you picture of saddam)
"induced catatonic screaming"
I liked being in the army. You get a lot out of it as long as you are willing to learn. Pretty much true for all of life opportunities
Yes, a cartoon about sneaking into your house and putting propaganda into your DREAMS is definitely the best way to make the army seem friendly and non-threatening
Xidnaf what part of the army seems non threatening?
I see you’ve met out top secret military division
It makes it look appealing nonetheless.
Very well done propaganda.
Sign up and die for your country today, you’ll he a hero, unless you come back alive.
There is a word for people that won't answer this nation's call when we are at war: Pussy.
Wow, I dont think I have ever seen a more well animated pack of lies in my life.
6:19 Notice the rabbit's head on the wall. Did Ralph succeed where Elmer Fudd had repeatedly failed?
just one benefit of joining the army
They probably showed ifpt after he spoke about shooting something, maybe to distract from the thought of you suppose to murder someone.
"Ehhhh... what's up doc?" "Your lifespan" *Blam*
At least Ralph killed the wabbit.
everything he said in that video is opposite if you join the marines.
I AM PHENOMENAL Marines are just an overrated division of the Navy.
I AM PHENOMENAL I agree with the comment above me, there are wayyyyyyy too many Marine Soldiers out there, I'm sure the training is hard, but can't be that bad if there's sooooooooooooo many people in there. I don't even know why it's so popular; pffft few my fucking ass.
Caesar Augustus what I mean is like when they talked about uniforms being either to big or to small to fit. my boots were 14 and a half and I was only 12. they do that to make you tough.
Christopher Corral no there aren't. there's only a about 200,000 marines last I checked. and there's over a million army.
I AM PHENOMENAL Idk man, it feels like everybody's a frkn Marine! 😂 If there's only 200,000 then talk about bad! If it weren't for our weaponry, we'd be in pretty bad shape right now.
Hmm, no mention of getting shot, seeing your friends get shot, getting limbs blown off or the years of psychological trauma that follow.
Gee, it's almost like this cartoon was trying mislead people.
That's AFTER training. And besides, not every single soldier had to suffer through that.
Tattorack it’s almost like this is a propaganda film ore something. What am I saying? That’s commie talk! I’m going down to enlist right now! Better dead than red!
“Rock-a-bye doggie...”
Well due back in the day you didn’t really need a high school diploma so the army’s pray was the young and dumb17 to 18 year old kid that dropped out to work at a mill some place In bumb fuck now where trust me my grandpa was one of those kids lol
It's made BY the army, it says that at the beginning, of course it was going to be propaganda.
"certain comic strips" Heh, looks like Mort Walker touched a nerve with his Beetle Bailey strips. :D
I think the "Willy and Joe" cartoons of WWII, drawn by Bill Maudlin, were still very much in the popular consciousness.
Oh, Beetle Bailey definitely got under the Army's skin. In fact, Mort Walker told a story of how the Army pestered the feature syndicates to come up with an adventure strip involving the Army like Milton Caniff's Steve Canyon centered around an Air Force colonel. Army representatives specifically complained, or so Walker said, that the Air Force had Steve Canyon and "all we have is Beetle Bailey."
... by 1957, the public at large had forgotten Willie and Joe -- at least, Mauldin thought so.
@Iafiv Iv Definitely so. One thing Walker and Mauldin shared was experience in the draftee army that, for all its competence, was essentially civilians temporarily wearing olive drab, an experience they shared with a lot of men in the 1950s and 1960s, including men in the entertainment industry. So you had the "service comedies" like Gomer Pyle and Sgt. Bilko (actually called "You'll Never Get Rich" but who remembers that?) and "Wackiest Ship in the Army" because, hey, you write what you know. There were also humorous stories and novellas too numerous to mention, some of the best by retired Adm. Dan Gallery. Even Beetle Bailey was once much more tightly and smartly written and drawn, and slightly subversive. Get your hands on a collection of Beetle strips from the late 60s, early 70s and contrast it with the phoned-in assembly line it is today.
The Beetle Bailey strip depicts an Army that (if it existed at all) was during that 10 minute break between Korea and Vietnam. Nothing in that cartoon is recognizable to anyone who has served after 1960.... I was in the Army during the late 80's early 90's, and was amused at how lame and irrelevant to my Army service that strip was....and that was 15 years ago!! Why is it still printed? Who is it for?!?
My grandpa joined the Air Force because it was his only way off of Guam as a young man. The military shaped his life such a positive way. I think this old cartoon was actually setting realistic expectations for new recruits back in the day. Sadly it’s a far far cry from how the military (or almost any major employer for that matter) treats new recruits today.
I remember talking to my grandfather about his time in the military, he told me he was shown all the best ways you could knock out a tank. One day he was offered to ride in a tank, but once you know every way to turn a tank into a hearse, you stop wanting to get inside one.
A sad lesson Russian kids are learning 1st hand, today.
Easy to turn a tank into a coffin. Harder to turn it into a hearse. A hearse has to move. 😂
let's be honest, the part about policing the smallest thing and creatively goofing off is going to happen
I remember chopping weeds in Fort Sill OK with an E-Tool, simply because they didn't trust us with the weed wacker.
Like i was told once, "A good portion of the officers time is making sure the troops are to bussy to be bored. Bored troopers tend to get creative. Creative troopers plays with equipment in ways that will cause problems for everyone."
BigSwede7403 *busy
Or they make off with some smoke and stun grenades and make hell for some poor bastard after basic.
u wait I already learned that> Did basic training as a Sea Cadet. We had to move gravel around around yellow-painted rocks with our hands for reasons unknown for two hours.
I find it funny. The boy had dreams and aspirations, becoming a doctor, an astronaut, or being rich and famous. Then he joined the military, and like that, all those dreams were dashed in a rain of gunfire and screaming.
He prob wouldn't have been any of those statistically speaking lol
@@LIFEwithBAVAN maybe a doctor
I just realized that Ralph is the little kid with the huge imaginationwho kept getting in trouble in school in the the old cartoons.
Good Lord. I think you're right.
What's the name of the cartoon if I may ask?
@@areaxisthegurkha Yea, which?
Dreaming youth : I'm becoming an adult, I could become anything if I just avoid this stupid draft.
Draft Imp : Yeah but think of all the well-groomed, uniform clad kissable boys you'd not be meeting.
waaaaitaminute, are you implying they tried to get gays there? :D
For real I mean look at history at the Greek army. They loved boy s
Definitely true about the Navy. Would be trying to use the bathroom and hear some dude having an orgasm in there at 11:30 at night. Went to another department's bathroom instead. Would NOT recommend joining. Avoid the draft if it comes.
@@lc1102 Hey man, it's not gay if you top.
@@ccggenius Disgusting person.
The Founding Fathers unanimously opposed having a large standing army, and sure enough, the huge military establishment left over after WW2 led to nothing but trouble and still does.
Is funny that the founding fathers actually are smart and following their beliefs is actually good, but people nowadays, especially BLM are opposed the founding fathers
@@wanderingcommenter4638 because at the end of the day they were just (white and generally rich) men that lived more than 200 years ago, many of them supported slavery and owned slave and a lot of them will probably considered the modern american democracy a nightmare ( black, women and poor whites can vote? The president can do what? There are political party?).
@@wanderingcommenter4638 what does this have to do whit blm
The Founding Fathers had the example of England after the, 1640's Civil War, about how a large standing army could be a problem.
Yeah and the Founding Fathers also thought slavery would peter out naturally; they ain't exactly all-knowing.
Whats missing was the fact that only small percentage of High School enlistees would qualify for those prestigious placements, in fact most who did were OCS college educated. The rest ended up doing less than glamorous tours.
But back then one thing about this cartoon was very true, you were better off, often WAY better volunteering instead of waiting to get drafted. You could choose the branch of service and often had some preference over which fields you could train in. Waiting to get drafted almost guaranteed a job pushing a rifle in a muddy bog.
KlunkerRider Yep, it was "join while you still have a choice."
Volunteering to be the man pushing that rifle in a muddy bog can also put you in a "glamorous job" you had no idea even existed. Been there, done that. Personally, while I know that there are lots of support jobs in the Army, I couldn't imagine joining to do anything other than combat arms, but that is just me.
I noticed they didn't mention one HUUUGE factor in those placement promises. To get placement you have to pass all your training classes. If they need 10 interpreters, and you place #12 in your class...Welcome to the Infantry ! When I went through Infantry School at Fort Benning, the guy in the bunk next to me had gone through the experience I just described. Not only that, the military can cancel that agreement at any time should they decide they need people doing something else. The needs of the service ALWAYS come first. (Yes, it IS in your enlistment contract).
It kept the Air Force FULL of volunteers.
I would have been a conscientious objectors so hard.
Is that a term? Google Translater says it is. Probably comes whit realy shitty backlash, Prison, or high Money Sentances.
@@Sunaki1000 Yes, it is a thing. It comes with needing to be proven to be long-standing in nature (you have to show history of being opposed to war, most easily done based on faith), and generally still lead to “alternative (non-combat) service”, doing support work of some sort (my grandfather wound up as a cook on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific during WWII). Refuse that, and I suspect it would have lead to jail.
“So decide your career now with the military, because if you get drafted were going to just put you where ever we want to.”
In my experience everything he said it wasn't, actually it was. Good to know nothing got worse over 70 years since it stayed the same X)
Agreed…
They change the calendars!!!
This is a better army ad than the one we saw in 2020 - 2022
one look at the thumbnail and you knew it was a Chuck Jones short. an absolute legend, the king
I guess Full Metal Jacket was Kubrick’s rebuttal to Chuck Jones lmao
If so, his shot was wide of the mark. Ermey knew better.
I like how this boils down to the army killing your dreams.
My recruiter sent me to paradise for basic training, GREAT Lakes Naval Training where it was a balmy 49 below zero on day one. It never got better.
You remember those glorious days of shoveling snow with dustpans?
Good training Sailor!
Ah yes....I heard much from my nephew about Great Mistakes.
Kinda creepy that the tiny Amy guy is like
“Can’t wake the parents or they freak out”
Most parents Greek out because they don’t want a dead kid or a kid with ptsd
Not everyone is in a combat role.
@@D3sertGh0st PTSD doesn't just apply for combat. Being shouted at, going through training and being punished for even the slightest mistakes can still leave a mark on a man, you know.
Me when i Greek out that my son is talking to a recruiter 🗿
@@D3sertGh0st most people that get PTSD are in non-combat roles, psychologists think its got to do with being less mentally prepared as they think they won't see combat, when in reality even poorly armed insurgents will often have mortars and other weapons to harass non-combat personal.
@@Imnotsmg4bob don't be silly. you don't get PTSD from training and commands. non-cons get PTSD from being exposed to combat or its aftermath. just because the army says you are non-combat doesn't mean the enemy won't shoot at you.
Yes, I realize that many of those commenting probably had differing experiences, but for my father, service in the US Army actually did set his life onto a very successful course. A rural boy from Kentucky, newly married at 18 with a coming baby (myself) and no real prospects to support a family with college out of the question, my father enlisted in the US Army under this very program. He was trained as a Medical Technologist and served in a US Army hospital in Orleans, France. He served from 1959-62 and came home fully accredited to work in any medical lab. After a few years working as a staff Tech he eventually became General Manager of a private lab, and then finally executive GM over a hospital laboratory system. (He did eventually pick up the College degree). I realize that his timing was fortunate as he missed Vietnam, but my Dad always had good things to say about his Army experiences.
I think that most of people know that. What everyone is making fun of here is the way the U.S. Army advertises the benefits of social mobility to potential recruits while downplaying the dark and damaging implications of service. This video is especially funny because it shows that the military has not fundamentally changed its recruitment message since the 1950's.
Particularly, people in my generation (born around 9/11) have this super weird relationship with propaganda. Because we literally grew up alongside smartphones, the internet, and War in the Middle East, we've observed military recruitment methods shifting to accommodate changing technology and politics in the same ways have. Ten years ago the Army released ads where recruits fought fantasy monsters; this played into the popularity of video game systems like the Wii or Playstation at the time and alluded to the military's message to the public that, although the war would be in a deadlock for the foreseeable future, it was still a fight of "good vs. evil." The military's recruitment message grows more sophisticated and every day appeals more specifically to the politics and interests of their target demographic.
So, its funny to see that the same core criticism that we have today about military recruitment are visible here: the massive disconnect between the actions of/experience of being in the military and the way the armed forces present themselves to the public. The ad is so bold in its deceptions about service (like saying the Drill Sargents will be Medal of Honor winners, not mean NCOs) and so obvious in applying advertising tricks (like saying that becoming a soldier will make us sexier) that it functions better as a parody of recruitment techniques than a legitimate advertisement.
@@bobmcbigberry3362 I mean, they've dropped the "join up before we conscript you" part... at least for now.
@@ccggenius I guess that is progress
I guess I'm one of the few success stories. I enlisted in '99 between my junior and senior year of high school. College wouldn't have been an option for me. Once I was in I started getting regular meals (prior to enlisting I considered myself lucky if I ate two meals a day). After I got out I was able to go to college for free and get a BS in Aviation. College allowed me to network and being a combat vet gave me preferential treatment for hiring which is how I now have a successful career with a utility company. And the VA just allowed me to buy a house that I wouldn't have been able to afford otherwise. I also get free healthcare through the VA, which on the west coast is pretty good.
@@posthumousc4913 Overall the VA is #1 in patient outcomes and has been for decades. It gets a bad rap from the media but mostly because it isn't corporate and is govt run. To give an example to other readers, for my major surgery there were 15 doctors at two hospitals on my case; ten of which were in the surgery room. Clearly, no corners cut. And yet, the cost of the surgery was about 40% of what the private market was charging. VA is ridiculously efficient. In addition to that, they've got medical errors down to less than 1/10th of 1% which is excellent given that medical errors are one of the biggest causes of death in America today. That's all St. Elsewhere and St. Hedgefund hospital networks, which rarely get criticized in the media and never as vehemently. A really good book on this is called "Best Care Anywhere: Why VA Healthcare Is Better Than Yours."
I just love loony tunes they were the best cartoons I am 81 years old and I still watch them and yes the Warners Bros were from London Ontario Canada
Awesome, I didn't know that! The M1 Rifle was also designed by a man born in Canada to Canadian parents.
Hi Leonard ! Just wanted to say I hope you made it to 82 !
TedBronson1918 Shoot for 83, Leo!
Leonard Mansfield - Oh my goodness! Sir, I am honored to talk to a senior! ^^
I wish you great health and many more good years ahead!
yes sir, I am a senior also growing up on them as well, just a quick correction or addendum about the Warners couldn't let your comment pass. The Warner's were actually born in Warsaw, Poland, all but Jack who was born in (London, Ontario) when they immigrated there, as you noted. However; my hometown of Youngstown, Ohio is what they called home. The original Warner studio and base operations were in Youngstown, and the first Warner studio's were in nearby PA, one was in Sharon, PA. and the other was the cascade Theatre in nearby New Castle, Pa., of course later in the century operations would relocate to California. Just to clarify!
Ralphie later died in Vietnam, alone and afraid in a jungle thousands of miles from home. A war we never should have been involved in, a death that never needed to happen. But we put his name on a wall! So we never forget how we got him killed.
You dumbass this is set in 1957 years before the military was in Vietnam on large scale.
Know your time line. Ralphie enlisted in 1957 and was stationed in either Germany or Korea. The hostilities had stopped and unless he was a high speed special operator, he wouldn't have gone to Vietnam in an "advisory" role until 1958. Went home after 2 years and got a manufacturing job somewhere most likely.
@@paramagician holy autism, batman.
People die in war dude
@@paramagician That's actually about the time my uncle "enlisted." He and some of his buddies jumped one of their high school teachers and the judge basically told him prison or army. He was in Germany.
Garth Ennis taught me all I need to know about the military and serving my country:
"You fight the wars they start. You kill the monsters they create. You die handling uranium while they get rich off of oil. I'm not going back to war just so Colt can sell off it's machine gun surplus. I had enough of that in Vietnam."
"That's not how it works."
"There's 50,000 guys in D.C. who'd say otherwise. Except they can't because they're nothing but names on a black wall."
Ralph Phillips. The kid with the super powered imagination.
Holy god I can't believe I missed that! His classroom daydreams featured in one of my ALL TIME favorite looney toons cartoons
fellas made sound "give up your dreams to go and be shot in foreign lands" like "Dear Mr Potter, You have been accepted to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry", damn the amount of idiots that fell for that
Those idiot's have something called COURAGE. How disrespectful
@@ruckerbrady8342 well courage and stupidity go hand in hand. Not to insult those who serve but the harsh truth is that alot of those young men were lied to into thinking that they were going to get great opportunities and the worst of all was that they were going to protect their country. That may have been true in WW 2 but after that everything went to shit. The main purpose of the soldier is to do one single thing and that is to kill. Not protect, not be a better person or even be a good member of society. The armys main goal is to train them to follow orders and kill the enemy. Thats it. And now alot of people know that war sucks and that soldiers are disposable individuals .
@@ruckerbrady8342 Courage, stupidity, either way.
There's a benefit to being a coward. You live longer.
@@theonejackal89 Living in fear is both a pathetic and sad way to live...and without a few brave souls to protect you, it won't be a long one either.
I'm pretty sure the guy getting his arms blown off is living in more fear.
so people in the 50's can turn their heads 180 degrees to their neck.
The current generation is soft.
Kumamon Yes, it's a little known fact that homo sapiens lost this ability during the latter half of the 20th century due to the introduction of the double mirror, allowing us to see our butts without doing this.
They can only do it when it's funny. C'mon, that's basic toon logic.
@@swashbucklemchrue2323 *Ah yes, the butt mirror, classic piece of human engineering.*
Bet people who have served in the present would get a good laugh out of this. I couldn't join the military due to a work related accident I had where I lost all sight from my left eye,my right one works twice as hard to compensate. But a few buddies of mine joined and after their tour told me it was more dreadful than cruel. As in serving in the military felt like doing chores 50% harder for an asshole stepfather 😂
Yeah this was lolz all over the place. I scored 79 on general technology on my ASVAB and I was a combat engineer. Most of the other kids in boot camp got 40s overall.
Yeah. For the most part, the concept of meritocracy was gone in the Army by the time I joined in 2016.
It was centralized around your APFT Scores, doing random, pointless credited Army "courses", schools, and qualifications at the range.
Nothing that had to do with your competency as a leader, or your ability to teach or perform the tasks and drills of your respective MOS. I had plentiful NCO's who were absolutely not worthy of being NCO's because their objective was to also be a leader in maintaining aircraft in the Army. But when a Private can sit there, chuckle, and point out how the NCO is wrong when doing something... Its bad.
Its what happens when the Army ends up focusing on pointless credentials and fundamental things that should be necessary as just a soldier, rather than the stuff that would make being an NCO in your respective MOS important and necessary as a team leader and expert.
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek Don't kid yourself. It was this way in 1996 already. It was still like this when I got out in 2004.
You didn't miss much dude. And think of it this way. As useful as you would have been to the army, the same effort and aptitude would probably count for more, and would definitely mean more, to an actual human being in the real world than it would to an organization who's sole purpose is mass destruction in the name of defense.
I was in the Air Force and can confirm this video is a very watered down, and rosy view of it all.
I love how the sketches of the soldiers he names are just pretty much the same guy
Interesting. 1957. My dad was class of 57. He was drafted right after he married my mom, before my older brother was born, but they rejected him due to a heart condition he didn't even know he had. He is 83 this month. I was born a couple years later. His heart condition is the reason I am here. Strange how things work out.
When I was in the Army, they didn’t teach me how to NOT get ripped off at the used car dealership.
Conversely, one has to wonder how many retired Army recruiters start used car dealerships.
Sadly, some of the used car dealers were retired military
When I was in a junior enlisted member had to get counseled by an NCO before entering any kind of financial arrangement like buying a car.
This cartoon is way way way better than the cartoons today
I always wanted to know how the disabled screaming homeless veteran on my corner 7/11 ended up that way.
I guess the anti-nightmare machine had some adverse effects
And he was one of the lucky ones
“the army isn’t interested in putting you in the wrong size clothing”
me in Paris island trying to hold my 2XL parachute looking trousers up while sprinting across a combat course
Nobody who was there would spell it "Paris." Or associate it with the Army.
If only High School diplomas still meant something.
The diploma represents what you learned. And education in America is like intelligence in the FBI. Sure it probably exists, but no one can really point to it anymore.
@@sleepy1697, not exactly. It doesn't represent education, it represents commitment. Pre WWII studies have revealed that high school dropouts are up to 40% more likely to go AWOL or desert, which is why today's, and for the last several decades, military, only accepts high school graduates. Even Good Enough Diploma holders have to jump through hoops to join, it isn't automatic.
Army: Be all you can be.
Truth: Be all they want you to be
Join the Army, see the world; meet interesting and fascinating people, and kill them.
The dog knew about all the shit that was about to go down in the 60s. Probably smarter than its owner.
Talk about pissing on someone's shoes and telling them it's raining?
Sure this is what they said it was like, but when I got in the army it was just a bunch of morons running around in circles asking "How do i quick-scope?"
Kinkhorse lmao I feel u, but when I joined, that "hurry up an wait" bullshit had me....
What about what harder not smarter?
I am not whining I am complaining.
When I joined the army, they didn't even assign you a position. Everyone somehow kept changing their field of expertise in minutes. How the hell do you go from a professional field medic who barely uses a gun, to a professional sniper doing headshots at 200 meter ranges and THEN ,against your will, turned into a suicide bomber by your own team.
Remember, this was made in the pre cod days.
wait seriously?
This video is like a time capsule from a time before me that I'll never know. I'm sure that while we rightly criticize the government now for what happened to many veterans, that back then, what they were being told about the army in videos like these was believed to be true by many and I have a feeling that the system really did work for a lot of folks, but as history has shown us, it was far from perfect.
The system will always be in favour of itself, but we'd be doing a disservice to all the people who got swept under the rug if we acted like the past was any different. We haven't heard of all the people getting screwed in this time period only because their suffering didn't amount to a change - their stories were hidden and died hidden.
@@landuit8577 It worked for me. Did my 20 and became a better man for it.
yeah but guess what, people are still being lied to by the government
Not if you were black though. My fiance did a whole paper on how black veterans from Korea to Vietnam era were basically screwed out of most promised benefits.
"The way they tell it, basic training is supposed to be nothing but KP, obstacle courses, and being chewed out by a bunch of sadistic sergeants."
Wait, it's not? Did I go to the wrong place?
That was Fort Benning, sans the KP.
There's ruck marches too.
@@gobblox38 Don't forget fireguard.
Probably. Not a sergeant to be found when I went to Boot Camp. The Navy seems to have very few of them.
"So enlist now, so things will be GOOD when you go in."
"I am Gunnery Sergeant Hartman."
"What side was that Private Wilson!"
"What is this Mickey Mouse shit? Why is Private Wilson holding that weapon?!!!!"
jacktheripoff1888 you mean gomer Pyle?
Wrong service, salaga.
I enlisted before I could be drafted, draftees were hosed...
Those of us who actually served remember our drill instructor/Company Commander with fondness and gratitude. They were there to get us ready for service in the military and they only had 8 weeks to do it. When I think of the change I and others went through in those two short months, it boggles my mind. Hartman was getting guys from all walks of life and pushing them as hard as he could so they might have a chance on the battlefield. It was something Kubrick never accepted, but which R. Lee Ermey fully understood.
if you think about it, it is an old cartoon that reflects the army back then not now.
tabletennisrubysuet oh no, it still works. Drill Sgt is there to train you, but no one said he had to act happy about it. And yes you will be doing bullshit busy work most of the time (especially if you didn't pick a particularly technical branch). Everything holds up to my experience from 2004-2010.
Well most of the military was volunteer anyways back then. It just wasn't ALL volunteer like it is now.
Granted we still sort of have conscription, thanks to Selective Service, but you're not going to see the draft come back because it's politically unpopular.
tabletennisrubysuet yup
warellis let a major war happen and it will come back.
Dirty Dan exactly
Despite it being propaganda to convince graduates to enlist before they eventually get drafted, it's still enjoyable as a cartoon!
I mean, this is Warner Bros we're talking about, even their propaganda is hilarious!
That what made it so dangerous.
No, when it's propaganda, it's allways bullshit, even when it's Warner Bros.
*ah yes cause having a slightly long shirt is the worse thing that could happened to you in the army*
This was made during peacetime
@@jonathanwilliams1065
The army isn‘t made for peacetime though.
Especially the US seems to have the habit of actively looking for conflict if they haven‘t got an active war they can burn their people in anymore.
This was made before Vietnam... gosh
@@blacky_Ninja the army starts watch in case of war during peacetime
Especially during the Cold War when we expected the Russians to attack in Germany at any moment
My pants were too short by an inch or so, and I have permanently messed up feet because my boots were too small.
Yes, I'm sure that ill-fitting clothing was the major reservation that most people had about being drafted. Thank goodness that got all cleared up.
The military is a good career choice for a lot of people, but it should only be approached carefully.
Mortablunt
Be sure to do your research
Mortablunt agreed not everyone is cut out for military life
so many people who joined the military later regret it
Everything he said that "doesn't hapoen", happened in my batt. That shit is exactly, perfectly reversed.
They should show them all their friends dying and a government that sees them as disposable.
And all that "support the troops" stuff was just talk. After you're out, you're basically on your own. The VA benefits are pathetic, the education benefits are oversold and under delivered, and the "life-long bonds" are probably going to be a couple of guys you call maybe once every couple of years. Oh, and the pay is laughable.
Given that I stand six-foot and was still fitted with an extra-small plate carrier prior to my Afghanistan deployment, I'd say there's at least few kinks in the Army's war machine when it comes down to fulfilling the (basic) needs of their soldiers.
You cant go to the army if your under 6 foot (1.80)?
@@jeanmichel8919 I was noting how they still fail to properly size their rank and file to accommodate them in a wartime environment, even decades after this cartoon pokes fun at them for it.
@@jhock9171 oh ok
1957 ( when I was three) to 1973 when I was eighteen the BS never changed!
Ten percent 'dislike' rate. Could it be that when the draft ended in '73, those enticing career promises and non-combat positions made by recruiters turned out to be dead-end lies?
5:28 "Any more than they would use outdated or inefficient weapons." Please, tell me another one!
This cartoon would make my dad spit. He grew up poor in rural KY during Vietnam and the local draft board was as crooked as they come. He passed his physical, despite being underweight. Most of the local boys were, and the doctor would tell them to get off the scales, put their shoes back on, and get on again. If you had $500, you could be seen by a doctor who would fail you immediately. They kept trying to draft my dad even when they weren't supposed to, like when someone from the area had already volunteered. One time, the woman who headed the draft board stuck her finger in his face and said, "I WILL get you!" He shot back, "Maybe you will, but it'll be legally!" Finally, he avoided the draft by winning the draft lottery. Many of his friends got slaughtered over there. Dad always says, "I know I would have died, because I'd never have been able to bring myself to shoot someone." He is EXTREMELY bitter about Vietnam and the military to this day.
I'll never forget camping with him and some of his buddies when I was a kid. Of course, they'd been throwing back the beers. One of his friends, who had been deep in the jungles and seen horrible things, started talking about the woman from the draft board. The hair on my arms stood up when he drunkenly slurred, "That woman will burn in hell for what she did to us kids. And that's all we was, was kids."
I can smell her roasting from here
Join the army come home in a box.
This is around when my wife's grandpa went in the army reserves. He knew his draft number was coming up so went enlisted. He did the minimum required time and got out. Now I'm in the uscg reserves and I tell him all I do and he said "if I had fun like that in the army I'd stayed in!"
Ralph Phillips grew up quite a bit. Went from being a daydreamer to an actual dreamer.
I think an oversized uniform is the least of your concerns when in the military. And tbh if i were ever forced to join, id rather be peeling potatoes my whole term than getting deployed
careful, field kitchens are hard to hide, are priority targets (killing a few potatoe pealers reduces the armie's overall effectiveness more than the smae number of combat soldiers, hungry soldiers don't fight well) and are within range of the enemy (as they need to be close enough to the men to provide food).
besides draftees and conscripts don't get to choose their role, that is a privledge of volunteers. draftees go where they are needed.
luckily for you the tooth-to-tail ratio (combat soldiers to non-combat soldiers) in modern armies is high, useually over 1:5 in times of serious war [wheen drafts are called] it balloons even further, usually well above 1:12. in vietnam for example it eventually got to almost 1:15 ie for every 1 frontline soldier there were just under 15 noncombat soldiers)
As someone who likes Cooking, thats probably the one Skill the Army would provide me whit, I could care about.
That moment when he says "you will look more and more like a soldier or a man" 🤣
Just wondering how many boys and (actual) men got bamboozeled into joining the living hell of Vietnam war after seeing this "educational" cartoon.
All we can do is wonder ofc since they themselves are long gone, pushing up daisies underneath vietnamese jungles and rice fields half a world away.
Read the year it is 1957 years before the military got involved in Vietnam on a large scale and the majority of men in Vietnam were volunteers
While this wasn't released during the time of Vietnam you still have a point about how these sorts of Propaganda videos are total bullshit. They trick people into willingly throwing themselves into a meat grinder.
@@bulldogsbob you understand this is a cartoon directed at children and teens, yes?
Quite frankly if an obvious bit of propaganda convinces them to join the military, that may be the only move they can make.
@@ChronicUnderachiever420 Actually back in those days they would show these cartoons in the movie theater before the feature presentation started. So plenty of men would also have seen this.
6:12 "And at 700 yards, I let him have it! ..."
"I can't stop remembering watching him bleed out..."
for every guy who has a grand dad who told them how great fighting in war was, there are more who didnt even get the chance to become grand dads
For 18 years I was pretty much in love with the army. Then I actually finally figured out what the word soldier means.
Please enlighten us
Getting yelled at for having black mold in your barracks that was made during ww2 and ice in your freezer by an alcoholic 25 year old cpl with 2 DUIs and a failed marriage
@@thunderdan98 experience may vary lol
Ralph Phillips all grown up, still day dreaming.
I got the bullet that went through his skull, he ded now, no more dreaming!
One of three military films the Warner Bros. cartoon studio shot in Technicolor in the 1950's, the other two being 90 Day Wondering and A Hitch In Time.
During WWII WB made the Private Snafu training films. All of the directors on staff took turns with the character, with Mel Blanc and Frank Graham doing the voices. They were funny in a more mature sort of way.
My son just went off to basic training. I showed him this video and we got a good chuckle. I went through it too, just like millions of others. The bullshit that you're told to expect is just that. Bullshit.
5:16 Watch that in slow motion and you'll see the Soldier is Elmer Fudd
D-man the captain the guy who hunts the whabbit
Reserved For You,
Yeah right. I joined the USAF with a promised position(Security Police) completed Basic to become a glorified Taxi Driver(4392nd Trans)
Went into the ARNG to become an Armored Scout, got placed into Food Service for rest of my Career.
Both times the Need of the Military overrides yours.
I served, but no one should ever have to serve by force. You may have to take a life one day or put yours on the line. You may become completely disabled and disfigured. So by that, NOBODY should be forced into that position or go to jail. I don't regret my service, but I wouldn't want my son to go. EVER. Especially since our government simply keeps wasting the money we entrusted to them and creates more laws that help the rich, who almost NEVER serve, and screws the average person.
Slaves dont have a choice. Either you die at home or you get killed over seas.
BaronNate thank you for your service and this is the most nuanced comment I’ve read here
Right around when this cartoon was released, my grandfather enlisted in the Marine Corps. But he did it so he wasn't drafted later and get his military service over with. As soon as he was out, he went back to normal life.
My favorite thing about this is that all of the "nasty rumors" it dispels are over 50 years old and yet proven true by military social media
I love he has these big dreams of being an explorer or a great scientist and instead the films about “hey forget curing cancer learn how to shoot” Growing up in a military family I can confirm from my grandpa this is as accurate a statement as any
uncle volunteered for Vietnam (navy) and served 20 years..wasnt PTSD or any war wounds that eventually killed him, was a blood transfusion in the 70s from a motorcycle crash..Taught me alot of things..how to use a radio, how to fix a vehicle and how to hunt and skin a deer (he was half Comanche). I miss him terribly, but i doubt hed want to live in todays world..
Being in the military, at least for 4 years, is overall a good experience. It teaches you discipline and responsibility. It also makes working a civilian job so much easier by comparison. If you can make it in the service, you can make it anywhere.
I remember watching this in the 60's, and my older brother was in the Army, and the cartoon, and my brother were close, but my brother said, its much harder then you think, but if you live through or graduate, you will do great. Now days, only the ones who have been there, can say.
If this guy recruited as he was recommended to, he’d be a Vietnam Vet today. _Oof_
Man...we have it so good in this day and age. Getting drafted back then was probably terrifying.
So much so that people were spontaneously developing "bone spurs" ;)
Well the way I see it is that anyone with money can pay and find out where to get exceptions to drafts