Watch me live @Twitch: www.twitch.tv/shikku96 Experimental Builds: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/TheUnlimitedWeaponAndFrost?build-id=2119957 Tank Experimental: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/BattlefieldWithTheCuneiformYear?build-id=2136440 Spear/Dagger that I will use: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/FuriousHighNatureTame?build-id=2123147 TL;DR Spear/Dagger is going to be meta most likely. Spear/GS, clunky af, there is potential. Spear/Wand seems like it can achieve something and seems fun. Spear/Staff, could be a good AoE grinder at best, don't see much potential but could be wrong. Spear/Bow, feels terrible. Spear/Xbow, might be great especially in ZvZ if you get Bellandir Spear and T2 Cordy Archboss Xbow in the future.
@Keyshawn13 i mean like in arena I play super evasive, I only use two dagger skills. There might be something to work here as spear for the passives and such.
@@Keyshawn13 Well they kinda do, ignite from spear works for CL and JL. If they could or would make it also work for some other staff stuff, or make burn/ignite interchangeable and work with each other, ie burn can work with spear stuff and ignite can work with more staff stuff, this would potentially be incredibly strong.
@@wilazn ok let me word this so people lacking reading comprehension can understand. It would be cool if they could be made to work this way in the future. Also I’m not the op… try paying attention.
I am personally swapping from Xbow/Dagger to Spear/Dagger but that’s mostly due to the fact that I am a melee player in most MMOs anyway, just be aware the playstyle is SO different from Xbow so test it first
@thegrumpylobster2937 the mastery is really the only big deal to me. But I could just slowly build mastery with teardrops and when i farm open world dungeons. Think I'll make the swap. Xbow dagger sucks 😂 for mana and self clearing
I am atm xbow/longbow i wanna combine xbow/spear or longbow/spear there is alot of dmg boost and passive skills for shield gain combine with passive shield maybe its good combination
@@starproxx7144 Queen Bellandir Spear is what I meant is needed for ZvZ to get the pull instead of fear which scatters them a bit! I see potential regardless.
many anything gotta be better then ranger (GS/LB)... I keep getting called a meme in T2 dungeons and kicked before we even start even though when we actually GO I DO hit hard, and don't needa lot of healing because I am basically an off tank. And I know mechs and can actually do them unlike a lot of people.
Tbh that is a meme class sorry. You being in melee range you're losing out on all the range benefits from using bow. You'll be better off going bow/dagger if you're going to be in melee range
@@Keyshawn13I disagree on my server desire I have competing times with every DPS class in gate of Infinity with ranger and beat greatsword dagger every single time in PvP and in DPS and if you use the shackle passive with the attack speed passive on the bow along with deadly marker it makes for a great combination with DPS when it comes to PVE I would argue that it's S-Class and better than any of these meta builds that come into the dungeons most of the time I end up solo finishing from time to time with my build because not only can I output extremely good burst damage but I also have the sustain to deal with anything, don't knock it till you see it in action lol
Need to know the mechs, but lots of idiot think the " meta" is everything. Just ignore him. If a group kick off anybody just like you I leave the group as soon as possible.
So basically only GS/Spear or SnS/Spear will be viable... but GS/Daggers its still an better combo for small scale so only SnS/Spear left. Spear have low damage because its more of an utility weapon, its not going to be viable with Daggers because Daggers its also another utility weapon, they are not mean to be used as your main source of damage. Can be good with Wand too but only if you pair it with Tevent Wand for Burst Damage because of Ignite and Burst from Spear, three Curses of Wand from Touch of Despair, Decaying Touch and Tevent Curse weaken effects... that would be 5 weaken effects in a single Curse Explosion Burst, with that you are just going to delete anyone.
Terrible tbh. Staff needs so many points in Speciliazation that you are left with 15-20 points max for the Spear. And then your spear is not doing shit. Both of them are hungry for spec points. Any wep that doesn't allow spear to take 60/100 points at least, Is a bad combination.
Yeah having ignite n burn be different really cucks the whole combo. Would've been op asf though if they did work together lol, just be throwing fire spears everywhere😅@@jackynikola
Watch me live @Twitch: www.twitch.tv/shikku96
Experimental Builds: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/TheUnlimitedWeaponAndFrost?build-id=2119957
Tank Experimental: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/BattlefieldWithTheCuneiformYear?build-id=2136440
Spear/Dagger that I will use: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/FuriousHighNatureTame?build-id=2123147
TL;DR
Spear/Dagger is going to be meta most likely.
Spear/GS, clunky af, there is potential.
Spear/Wand seems like it can achieve something and seems fun.
Spear/Staff, could be a good AoE grinder at best, don't see much potential but could be wrong.
Spear/Bow, feels terrible.
Spear/Xbow, might be great especially in ZvZ if you get Bellandir Spear and T2 Cordy Archboss Xbow in the future.
Great Video! Really interested in the Spear/Wand combo
I think in order for spear staff to be viable the burn and ignition would need to be the same debuff and not different. Too point starved.
Exactly, they already have it so both work with CL and JL, no reason why they can't make it work for all.
@HakujooX im still going to do it my own way with staff spear using spear passives and a few skills from it.
For pve it'll be fun to mess around with, may not be the best but it'll be fun have a shit ton of heavy attack from spear buffs
@Keyshawn13 i mean like in arena I play super evasive, I only use two dagger skills. There might be something to work here as spear for the passives and such.
What to pair? Wand! Duuhhh😂
What about spear/staff and spear/longbow, the spear skill has synergy that works with those two weapons as well
There is no synergy, burn from staff and ignite from spear don't work together sadly
@@Keyshawn13 Well they kinda do, ignite from spear works for CL and JL. If they could or would make it also work for some other staff stuff, or make burn/ignite interchangeable and work with each other, ie burn can work with spear stuff and ignite can work with more staff stuff, this would potentially be incredibly strong.
@@MesozWhelps has already clarified they both don't work and you need to invest a lot of points to spear
@@englishboy993 I know that, that is why I said it would be cool if they did both work lol
@@wilazn ok let me word this so people lacking reading comprehension can understand. It would be cool if they could be made to work this way in the future.
Also I’m not the op… try paying attention.
Good pre-review. Subscribed!
spear/sns is top for sure
I’m sure I heard this dude quit before siege because his mastery and gear wasn’t op as everyone was catching up with end game lol
This dude participated in the siege and won the siege btw so that’s totally fake news (I even streamed it too)
Should I switch to spear+dagger or should I stay with xbow+dagger?
Am lost in this exact situation.
I am personally swapping from Xbow/Dagger to Spear/Dagger but that’s mostly due to the fact that I am a melee player in most MMOs anyway, just be aware the playstyle is SO different from Xbow so test it first
In the same boat, xbows aoe is so bad and the spear skills look so cool, but swapping builds is such a big undertaking
@thegrumpylobster2937 the mastery is really the only big deal to me. But I could just slowly build mastery with teardrops and when i farm open world dungeons.
Think I'll make the swap. Xbow dagger sucks 😂 for mana and self clearing
I definitely cooked with that build i sent you on twitch seeing how its ok thr video
what about Staff Spear?
I think it's viable and anything can happen if you can see a way for it to work
im trying out long bow Spear
@kemaron4960 someone let me know about staff and spear. I see that being godly and over powered even if febal minds can't see the potential
I'm usually proficient in reading through typos and if I had to put money on it, I would assume you meant feeble but I am also kind of fond of feral.
@kinskixii3943 definitely meant feeble minds as it simple and incapable of comprehending the build.
Didn't even thinka bout my spelling lol
Im thinking of switching from staff/wand to spear/wand, wonder if it will be better for pvp
i would say yes but needs testing
Definitely needs testing but seems fun on paper for sure
Bow / spear will be open and ward/spear in the right hands 😊 pc players have it hard to vs console players
Currently ım playing bow/staff ı like bow very much but ı dont like staff that much bow/spear is that much bad ?
Is ignite and burn the same DoT or different?
Different
was thinking of going SnS/spear already have the SnS archboss weapon
I am atm xbow/longbow i wanna combine xbow/spear or longbow/spear there is alot of dmg boost and passive skills for shield gain combine with passive shield maybe its good combination
I’m gunna run longbow with spear
It's not with longbow
@ longbow is going to be one of the classes to pair with
@@englishboy993 wdym, they literally make it for longbow XD
@@RiderGamerSRQ yea literally xd
no love for the sns/spear tanks?
Hahaha SnS/Spear will definitely be great, I don’t think it will replace SnS/GS but will definitely be another new solid option!
Any self healing on the Spear?
There is a life steal on it and a skill spec that can give you a shield
@@Shikku1996 Beautiful. Thanks
Why do you think queen xbow would be good with spear?
@@starproxx7144 Queen Bellandir Spear is what I meant is needed for ZvZ to get the pull instead of fear which scatters them a bit!
I see potential regardless.
@@Shikku1996 I mean, you put queen xbow on one of your builds
@ yeah but that’s why I said feel free to adjust accordingly!
@@Shikku1996 Great idea, I decided to try it.
What about Spear/GS my homies?
Clunky, needs testing, but I didn’t like the feel of it as both weapons want to be the main weapon, definitely give it some testing.
many anything gotta be better then ranger (GS/LB)... I keep getting called a meme in T2 dungeons and kicked before we even start even though when we actually GO I DO hit hard, and don't needa lot of healing because I am basically an off tank. And I know mechs and can actually do them unlike a lot of people.
Tbh that is a meme class sorry. You being in melee range you're losing out on all the range benefits from using bow. You'll be better off going bow/dagger if you're going to be in melee range
@@Keyshawn13I disagree on my server desire I have competing times with every DPS class in gate of Infinity with ranger and beat greatsword dagger every single time in PvP and in DPS and if you use the shackle passive with the attack speed passive on the bow along with deadly marker it makes for a great combination with DPS when it comes to PVE I would argue that it's S-Class and better than any of these meta builds that come into the dungeons most of the time I end up solo finishing from time to time with my build because not only can I output extremely good burst damage but I also have the sustain to deal with anything, don't knock it till you see it in action lol
Need to know the mechs, but lots of idiot think the " meta" is everything. Just ignore him. If a group kick off anybody just like you I leave the group as soon as possible.
So basically only GS/Spear or SnS/Spear will be viable... but GS/Daggers its still an better combo for small scale so only SnS/Spear left.
Spear have low damage because its more of an utility weapon, its not going to be viable with Daggers because Daggers its also another utility weapon, they are not mean to be used as your main source of damage.
Can be good with Wand too but only if you pair it with Tevent Wand for Burst Damage because of Ignite and Burst from Spear, three Curses of Wand from Touch of Despair, Decaying Touch and Tevent Curse weaken effects... that would be 5 weaken effects in a single Curse Explosion Burst, with that you are just going to delete anyone.
For real? I was playing tank and I always loved spear/glaive weapons in games and I was hoping it would be good with SnS.
What about spear/staff?
Terrible tbh.
Staff needs so many points in Speciliazation that you are left with 15-20 points max for the Spear.
And then your spear is not doing shit.
Both of them are hungry for spec points.
Any wep that doesn't allow spear to take 60/100 points at least, Is a bad combination.
Seems like it will potentially be just a good AoE farmer that's all. Definitely do give it a go though if interested!
Doesnt work at all. Ignite and burn are separate so you cant actually build in to DOT. Other skills have 0 sinergy. Probably worst spear combo
Yeah having ignite n burn be different really cucks the whole combo. Would've been op asf though if they did work together lol, just be throwing fire spears everywhere😅@@jackynikola
My goat
Dagger or GS. End of story.
Dagger. End of story.
you posted 2 weeks ago you quit the game, why you still playing?