What I absolutely look forward to are the references both of you mention - off the cuff - from psychology and sociology to Bollywood and Hollywood and the unexpected yet delightful character or scenario from the classics. Thank you for NOT diluting your conversations and holding the people making these dramas to a high standard. So glad to have found this channel.
Sadaf gonna use this new ahad bot tag 🤣🤣 loved the intro on point too many stans as we know. Have so many fave actors doesnt mean we have to love every performance🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for the Ghair review. Well, Shifa did show jelaously for Wafa, when she got to knwo Farjad likes Wafa, she has even asked her what has bhai seen in you, it was clear she did not like Wafa getting the importance. Shifa is a vamp now, as she continues to plot and make things hard for Wafa. Wafa has asked for divorce, so Shifa trying to degrade her further means that she is no better than Tehreem. I am glad Salis told Shifa in saturdays episode that just to be with shifa, he cant degrade a girl. I am actually not able to understand recation to the whole Wafa-Farjad angle. He always knew that they liked each but never spoke about it post the forced nikkah, doesnt that make him even more selfish? The scene where Wafa slammed Farjad was the highlight. She was so right, Farjad is the reason to trigger the mess in Wafa's life.
I have a feeling the writer ( Zanjabeel Asim) is showing Shiffa is under the influence of phuppo Tehreem . At one point Shiffa actually seemed like she gave up
Thank you ladies, wonderful show as usual. With so many good shows on air these days like Faraar, AIJ & QEJ , a show like SMD is standing out like a sore thumb not only because of the story but the pacing, direction & acting as well unfortunately.
Absolutely love your conversations, like being with friends. Some of these dramas are entertaining but many are just Pakistani voices in the background for us homesick Pakistanis. Keep it up ❤
I hope Wahaj picks good scripts. It’s not even about romance because romance is the biggest selling point in dramas and it’s a beautiful aspect in everyone’s lives. Everyone wants to experience romance and hence why there’s a big watch for it. People resonate with romance. It’s the actual storyline and actors associated with a project Wahaj needs to reevaluate. A fellow A lister actor might be an A lister but if the performance isn’t up there it just makes the scenes flat. Tbh Wahaj is the strongest actor in the cast and therefore it’s only his performance which is holding the drama. He really needs to be wise about scripts and actors involved in his next project. He has said many times he just looks at director and takes a project so he now needs to focus on scripts 🙏 the makers of SMD and cast need to apologise for over selling this project as a romance when the leads barely have any scenes together and when they do there’s no chemistry what so ever. It’s like Mein all over again.
Firstly, two fantastic sessions yesterday and today. I don't usually watch thriller dramas but you have convinced me to give Ae Ishq e junoon a go. Sunn mere dil is just hilariously bizarre. Lastly, we really are missing Mustafa and Sharjeena 😭😭
Jafaa: so disappointed, looks like it’s a totally different story now, like the writer and director got bored and left it to move on to better things. I just don’t get Numair sulking and pouty throughout her pregnancy, while she struggles to keep up pretenses to keep everyone happy. I don’t like the glorification of men who make women walk on eggshells around them instead of sharing what’s bothering them. Nomair did that with his mother and sister instead of telling like a grown mature adult why he’s against marriage. Then he continues the cycle with Deebu. Making her feel bad for something she never did. Sit and talk for heavens sake!!!!! They stretched it for no reason. Just to make Deebu look silly and Nomair a victim. Deebu deserves better I agree with Sadaf.
Sunn Mere Dil is working due to Wahaj's performance and people waiting for his character to have some happiness. Also maybe some are hoping for a little romance between leads because they are actually good at it. But sadly they have made Sadaf's character so bad that you on the other side want her to suffer because not only did she do back and forth with Bilal but also Amaar and she broke her promise to Dania that she will never marry Amaar. Also, she is still so arrogant for nothing. Maya and Wahaj are so good at romance they made small eye contacts in Jo Bichar Gaye amazing. This is just sad
Andaleeb is a perfect example of how financial independence can never guarantee you emotional maturity. And her parents hit a new low everytime. The audacity of Andaleeb's father to say, "hum ny Numair ko kia samjha aur wo kia nikla!!". Bro you are the one who thought your daughter was the culprit all the time you used Numair as an opportunity to hide your shame, guilt and disgrace. Numair and Zara's conversation was the highlight of the episode. It was well written, well executed and well performed by both the actors. That one conversation had more nuance and sensitivity than whole Andaleeb's and her parent's melodrama!! And yes I have always found Numair and Andaleeb's relationship one sided. It was more of paternal from Numair side because that's the person he is and that was kind of a foundation of their relationship, the saviour complex. And when Deebu started to pick up on Numair's behavior it just crossed the limit. I would've totally root for Numair and Zara if anyone of them would've shown slightest romantic inclination towards each other. Would totally love them in another show together.
Thank you for saying that glorification of one-sided love needs to stop. And not just one sided love, but also sacrificial love. Love is a very dynamic emotion, it goes through stages and it keeps evolving. Why just one sided, even the love that is reciprocated would change its shell with time and situation. The way you love your partner at the very beginning of your relationship changes over time to how you love them later in life, once you have other relations mingled with it. So showing time and again that a person's love for another remains staunch no matter the circumstances is not just illogical, but also misguiding. Because many then try to take that word for it, because they find it so cinematic, and implement the same in their own lives, bearing with God knows what awful shit, just because they think that's what love encapsulates.
krq is over rated now , i wonder why our top actrors agree to work with him despite his misogyny , i wonder what he has to offer next with mahira humayun sajal
My possibly controversial opinion on Jaffa: I think Numair is much worse than Hassan. Hassan was an emotional and physical abuser, this kind of abuse is right in your face, Zara had physical signs of being beaten, so there's no denying it, furthermore Hassan accepts it and takes at least some responsibility ( although he himself was a disturbed and broken person). On the other hand Numair had known of his condition yrs before marrying Andaleeb. In real life it would be yrs before a husband would confess to his wife about his infertility, even after that he will probably never tell his parents or intervene when his wife is questioned on being childless at family gatherings. And if by some miracle such a couple does conceive, the husband would divorce the wife in secs(esp if he is not a doctor). In my opinion Numair decided to contd the marriage even after Andaleeb's suicide attempt because she was basically damaged goods and she will eventually have to accept this truth regarding Numair. Really fraudulent and a deal breaker if you ask me. How many men would enter a marriage knowing a woman cannot conceive? I believe a lot of women would still be okay with a man who is infertile if they are told beforehand. Sorry for the really long rant but I can't look beyond Numair's betrayal! You guys are doing a good job reviewing dramas so in depth.
@@mariaatariq3713 you are missing the point completely! Hassan is suffering from a psychological trauma, he only partly understands and acknowledges it, yet he is willing to go to therapy. While Numair is a specialist doctor, I'm a Dr myself, all drs are trained in the basics of psychology and psychiatry, so he had a good idea what kind of mental state Andaleeb was in. Her parents are the worst, he contd pushing her to complete her education and in the same college as her ex, cont'd to blow hot and cold, never really committed to the relationship. So yes Numair is an awful person, look at where he comes from, a privileged life, loving parents, supportive sister, superior education yet he did something that someone without a conventional education or Islamic knowledge does. I don't know what your line of thinking is 🤔
@@madeehaayub9704Numair is first of all a human being living with the stigma and trauma of not being a man enough due to his infertility for 10-15 years of his life. This is same as saying why Zara never left Hassan despite pointing out the red flags of Hassan and being a doctor. Hassan was willing to go to therapy after he almost killed Zara before that he was just manipulating her just for the context. Numair's mother is not at all supportive she is always emotionally blackmailing him with zero understanding of what his son is actually going through and she is not even willing to listen to him. For her mother his son is a trophy child and she just wants to check all the boxes the society has to put on him being a man of the house. Numair's privilege and education is earned it was never given to him on a plate and for that he had to be a man i.e not to express his vulnerabilities and give in to every responsibility society has put on for him. For man like Numair (and for every man) his masculinity is a burden for him. As far as his relationship with Andaleeb is concerned of course he did wrong because he never thought her to be as the same mental level as him. And frankly speaking he is right. Andaleeb's parents just dumped her on him to hide their own shame and guilt. He tried doing the most he could do to help her and support her. He can't do what her parents should've done. After all he is her husband not a parent. For me what Andaleeb has done is way worse than what Numair did. For me Numair is already on redemption arc as he is taking care of that child whose mother just abandoned her. And now she is back she is doing everything except to meet her daughter.
Tbh, you people are completely white-washing Numair just because he's dealing with male infertility, an issue which is far more common but of course seldom shown in dramas. The fact that he didn't let Andaleeb know why he didn't want children in their very first meeting + decided it on his own that he'd adopt children (when he recently revealed about it while confiding in Zara), again, who is he to make that decision independently? I think, to begin with his character didn't deserve redemption because who knows, he only forgave Andleeb because he himself had secrets. That speaks volumes of his lack of integrity regardless of whether he is a good human or not (which we are shown that he is). Also, I don't agree that Numair & Andleeb had a normal/healthy marriage because I kinda saw them as siblings/ Numair friend zoning her often whenever she needed him to show intimacy towards him etc. He was shown to justify that by saying that 'I wanted you to take your time' so that she could be further in awe of him & completely guilty of whether she even deserved an angel like him to begin with lol I know some of my perspectives probably make Numair appear as a villain, but the bottomline is that he very much is. Anyone who lies is. And we can't compare that to Andleeb's deep-rooted immaturity & her impulsive decisions because that'd be comparing apples to oranges. As Sadaf said, her parents raised her SO bad --- and were SO selfish & narcissistic that they just didn't give their daughter agency... Even if they thought (in their mind) that they made the best decision. The whole Karachi travel thing was absolutely unrealistic & wasn't well executed at all. We didn't know/were told as to how did Andleeb land in the shady salon she ended up getting her job in? Okay, a friend of her paved that way for her (the girl with the uncombed hair), I'd like to know how she met/knew her in a city that is one of the most populous in the world? And then a random client gives her a 40% profit share in her salon --- why? We didn't see her learning the salon services thoroughly. She was only shown mopping the floor. So what services did she really give to that client to have deserved such a hefty permanent place in the latter's salon? And why didn't she not question the latter's safety and or intentions, when her original workplace's owner was such a vile woman? May be my concerns (particularly with regard to Abdleeb) are too much to ask from a Pakistani drama, but I think they really ruined a story that had such towering potentialities to offer profound lessons to the audience --- particularly desi parents/grandparents etc.
@@MahwashAjaz, I think Andaleeb is a complete product of her shitty parents. Not that her multiple attempts to suicide were worth glorifying and or should be the go-to toolkits for women in her situation. But she wasn't mentally and or emotionally fit to have entered something so sacred and life-altering an insitution such as marriage... Because she didn't even know what she was signing up for/and what did it require out of her? (Notwithstanding that a lot of people grow owing to their healthy partnership support/dynamic) but as Sadaf said, our society just is keen at experimenting with girls' lives and want both women and men --- particularly the women to take on men as projects --- and that then manifests in the form of irresponsible/impulsive/identity-less --- basically broken women such as Andleeb. Every reviewer besides you two kept asking the same question that how could a mother do this/stay away from her child etc etc. But I know for a fact that Andleeb wasn't mentally and or emotionally fit enough to be a mother. It is a full time job and a huge responsibility that's why she very casually asked Numair to abort their child, if he didn't want it... I mean which sane woman would want it (unless she has any other traumas otherwise).
Of course one's life experiences shape their personality and Numair's insecurity have made him a person he is which is what we call a human being- good or bad it's very subjective. And it's very easy for men to behave like violently towards the situation Andaleeb was in. But the fact is Numair went out of the way to protect her and showed her the empathy and kindness, a person can't pretend it for that long if they genuinely don't have it. And yes their relationship was more of like fatherly from Numair's side because he never thought Andaleeb to be a person with an equal mental level as him. His actions were very cruel but what Andaleeb did is way worse than him. For me Numair is already on a redemption path as he is taking care of that child and he never picked up that DNA report whereas Deebu has completely lost it!!
@@MahwashAjaz, Andleeb is not at all an exemplary character. But she's a complete product of her parents. And when we are born, we are born like clean canvases, our parents can color/mould/shape us into becoming whatever they wish to. Andleeb was not raised to have her agency over something so sacred and life-altering as marriage. So she's not worth looking up to because she has flaws, but she at least has integrity in what she does. She was such a people-pleaser that just for seeking Numair's validation, she was even willing to abort her own child --- no reasonable woman does that, unless she is physically sick and or has any other significant burdens/comcerns/traumas or as in the west they say, #MyBody #MyChoice is believed by her. I didn't appreciate her character at all, but I have always had sympathies towards her. And Numair did what he did, but he operated out of lack of integrity and he had complete control, Andleeb on the other hand didn't have that privilege of choice --- common to how mostly majority of women are in Pakistan. Had Andleeb not been raised like a thing, but like a child --- had Numair kept at his plan to not have children (when Andleeb and her patents, even Numair's own mother had ignored it after the couple's first meeting), I would have had complete sympathies towards him. Even if he had hidden his infertility. After all, the right to have children or not, the choice to adopt or not is not and should not be one person's prerogative only.
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What I absolutely look forward to are the references both of you mention - off the cuff - from psychology and sociology to Bollywood and Hollywood and the unexpected yet delightful character or scenario from the classics.
Thank you for NOT diluting your conversations and holding the people making these dramas to a high standard.
So glad to have found this channel.
You made our day. Thank you! 💖💖💖
Thank you This is why I love my discussions with Mahwash , an intelligent, well read person who brings value to every conversation
Sadaf gonna use this new ahad bot tag 🤣🤣
loved the intro on point too many stans as we know. Have so many fave actors doesnt mean we have to love every performance🤦🏻♀️
Ha ha
Thank you for the Ghair review. Well, Shifa did show jelaously for Wafa, when she got to knwo Farjad likes Wafa, she has even asked her what has bhai seen in you, it was clear she did not like Wafa getting the importance. Shifa is a vamp now, as she continues to plot and make things hard for Wafa. Wafa has asked for divorce, so Shifa trying to degrade her further means that she is no better than Tehreem. I am glad Salis told Shifa in saturdays episode that just to be with shifa, he cant degrade a girl. I am actually not able to understand recation to the whole Wafa-Farjad angle. He always knew that they liked each but never spoke about it post the forced nikkah, doesnt that make him even more selfish? The scene where Wafa slammed Farjad was the highlight. She was so right, Farjad is the reason to trigger the mess in Wafa's life.
I have a feeling the writer ( Zanjabeel Asim) is showing Shiffa is under the influence of phuppo Tehreem . At one point Shiffa actually seemed like she gave up
Thank you ladies, wonderful show as usual. With so many good shows on air these days like Faraar, AIJ & QEJ , a show like SMD is standing out like a sore thumb not only because of the story but the pacing, direction & acting as well unfortunately.
The whole concept is out dated
The writing is the worst part of SMD
Absolutely love your conversations, like being with friends. Some of these dramas are entertaining but many are just Pakistani voices in the background for us homesick Pakistanis. Keep it up ❤
Glad you like them! Thank you for this lovely comment🥰🥰🥰
Thank you this made my day❤
I hope Wahaj picks good scripts. It’s not even about romance because romance is the biggest selling point in dramas and it’s a beautiful aspect in everyone’s lives. Everyone wants to experience romance and hence why there’s a big watch for it. People resonate with romance. It’s the actual storyline and actors associated with a project Wahaj needs to reevaluate. A fellow A lister actor might be an A lister but if the performance isn’t up there it just makes the scenes flat. Tbh Wahaj is the strongest actor in the cast and therefore it’s only his performance which is holding the drama. He really needs to be wise about scripts and actors involved in his next project. He has said many times he just looks at director and takes a project so he now needs to focus on scripts 🙏 the makers of SMD and cast need to apologise for over selling this project as a romance when the leads barely have any scenes together and when they do there’s no chemistry what so ever. It’s like Mein all over again.
Firstly, two fantastic sessions yesterday and today. I don't usually watch thriller dramas but you have convinced me to give Ae Ishq e junoon a go. Sunn mere dil is just hilariously bizarre. Lastly, we really are missing Mustafa and Sharjeena 😭😭
You are right to miss them, their chemistry was unmatched. Do catch AIJ. It’s definitely worth the ride.
Usmaan and Mawra are doing a show, maybe this time they are paired together. They have done 2 shows and have not been paired together
wahaj in a non romantic drama is a need , like jbg or a romcom like ishq jalebi , rona dhona bohat hogaya hai ab
Wahaj needs to really reevaluate how he is choosing scripts
Jafaa: so disappointed, looks like it’s a totally different story now, like the writer and director got bored and left it to move on to better things. I just don’t get Numair sulking and pouty throughout her pregnancy, while she struggles to keep up pretenses to keep everyone happy. I don’t like the glorification of men who make women walk on eggshells around them instead of sharing what’s bothering them. Nomair did that with his mother and sister instead of telling like a grown mature adult why he’s against marriage. Then he continues the cycle with Deebu. Making her feel bad for something she never did. Sit and talk for heavens sake!!!!! They stretched it for no reason. Just to make Deebu look silly and Nomair a victim. Deebu deserves better I agree with Sadaf.
Sunn Mere Dil is working due to Wahaj's performance and people waiting for his character to have some happiness. Also maybe some are hoping for a little romance between leads because they are actually good at it.
But sadly they have made Sadaf's character so bad that you on the other side want her to suffer because not only did she do back and forth with Bilal but also Amaar and she broke her promise to Dania that she will never marry Amaar. Also, she is still so arrogant for nothing.
Maya and Wahaj are so good at romance they made small eye contacts in Jo Bichar Gaye amazing. This is just sad
So true
Andaleeb is a perfect example of how financial independence can never guarantee you emotional maturity. And her parents hit a new low everytime. The audacity of Andaleeb's father to say, "hum ny Numair ko kia samjha aur wo kia nikla!!". Bro you are the one who thought your daughter was the culprit all the time you used Numair as an opportunity to hide your shame, guilt and disgrace. Numair and Zara's conversation was the highlight of the episode. It was well written, well executed and well performed by both the actors. That one conversation had more nuance and sensitivity than whole Andaleeb's and her parent's melodrama!!
And yes I have always found Numair and Andaleeb's relationship one sided. It was more of paternal from Numair side because that's the person he is and that was kind of a foundation of their relationship, the saviour complex. And when Deebu started to pick up on Numair's behavior it just crossed the limit. I would've totally root for Numair and Zara if anyone of them would've shown slightest romantic inclination towards each other. Would totally love them in another show together.
Really want to see Mawra and Usman together in a show.
No qarz e jaan, ladies?
Inshallah coming week!
Ali Hassan lacks creative mindset
Thank you for saying that glorification of one-sided love needs to stop. And not just one sided love, but also sacrificial love. Love is a very dynamic emotion, it goes through stages and it keeps evolving. Why just one sided, even the love that is reciprocated would change its shell with time and situation. The way you love your partner at the very beginning of your relationship changes over time to how you love them later in life, once you have other relations mingled with it. So showing time and again that a person's love for another remains staunch no matter the circumstances is not just illogical, but also misguiding. Because many then try to take that word for it, because they find it so cinematic, and implement the same in their own lives, bearing with God knows what awful shit, just because they think that's what love encapsulates.
It is a very long conversation that needs to be had. Hopefully, writers are getting the message and we will see less of this.
krq is over rated now , i wonder why our top actrors agree to work with him despite his misogyny , i wonder what he has to offer next with mahira humayun sajal
Dreading it if it is anything like SMD
My possibly controversial opinion on Jaffa: I think Numair is much worse than Hassan. Hassan was an emotional and physical abuser, this kind of abuse is right in your face, Zara had physical signs of being beaten, so there's no denying it, furthermore Hassan accepts it and takes at least some responsibility ( although he himself was a disturbed and broken person).
On the other hand Numair had known of his condition yrs before marrying Andaleeb. In real life it would be yrs before a husband would confess to his wife about his infertility, even after that he will probably never tell his parents or intervene when his wife is questioned on being childless at family gatherings. And if by some miracle such a couple does conceive, the husband would divorce the wife in secs(esp if he is not a doctor). In my opinion Numair decided to contd the marriage even after Andaleeb's suicide attempt because she was basically damaged goods and she will eventually have to accept this truth regarding Numair. Really fraudulent and a deal breaker if you ask me. How many men would enter a marriage knowing a woman cannot conceive? I believe a lot of women would still be okay with a man who is infertile if they are told beforehand.
Sorry for the really long rant but I can't look beyond Numair's betrayal! You guys are doing a good job reviewing dramas so in depth.
So we can accept Hassan's trauma but not Numair's??
@@mariaatariq3713 you are missing the point completely! Hassan is suffering from a psychological trauma, he only partly understands and acknowledges it, yet he is willing to go to therapy. While Numair is a specialist doctor, I'm a Dr myself, all drs are trained in the basics of psychology and psychiatry, so he had a good idea what kind of mental state Andaleeb was in. Her parents are the worst, he contd pushing her to complete her education and in the same college as her ex, cont'd to blow hot and cold, never really committed to the relationship. So yes Numair is an awful person, look at where he comes from, a privileged life, loving parents, supportive sister, superior education yet he did something that someone without a conventional education or Islamic knowledge does. I don't know what your line of thinking is 🤔
@@madeehaayub9704Numair is first of all a human being living with the stigma and trauma of not being a man enough due to his infertility for 10-15 years of his life. This is same as saying why Zara never left Hassan despite pointing out the red flags of Hassan and being a doctor. Hassan was willing to go to therapy after he almost killed Zara before that he was just manipulating her just for the context. Numair's mother is not at all supportive she is always emotionally blackmailing him with zero understanding of what his son is actually going through and she is not even willing to listen to him. For her mother his son is a trophy child and she just wants to check all the boxes the society has to put on him being a man of the house. Numair's privilege and education is earned it was never given to him on a plate and for that he had to be a man i.e not to express his vulnerabilities and give in to every responsibility society has put on for him. For man like Numair (and for every man) his masculinity is a burden for him. As far as his relationship with Andaleeb is concerned of course he did wrong because he never thought her to be as the same mental level as him. And frankly speaking he is right. Andaleeb's parents just dumped her on him to hide their own shame and guilt. He tried doing the most he could do to help her and support her. He can't do what her parents should've done. After all he is her husband not a parent. For me what Andaleeb has done is way worse than what Numair did. For me Numair is already on redemption arc as he is taking care of that child whose mother just abandoned her. And now she is back she is doing everything except to meet her daughter.
@@mariaatariq3713great exposition I agree
Tbh, you people are completely white-washing Numair just because he's dealing with male infertility, an issue which is far more common but of course seldom shown in dramas.
The fact that he didn't let Andaleeb know why he didn't want children in their very first meeting + decided it on his own that he'd adopt children (when he recently revealed about it while confiding in Zara), again, who is he to make that decision independently? I think, to begin with his character didn't deserve redemption because who knows, he only forgave Andleeb because he himself had secrets. That speaks volumes of his lack of integrity regardless of whether he is a good human or not (which we are shown that he is).
Also, I don't agree that Numair & Andleeb had a normal/healthy marriage because I kinda saw them as siblings/ Numair friend zoning her often whenever she needed him to show intimacy towards him etc. He was shown to justify that by saying that 'I wanted you to take your time' so that she could be further in awe of him & completely guilty of whether she even deserved an angel like him to begin with lol
I know some of my perspectives probably make Numair appear as a villain, but the bottomline is that he very much is. Anyone who lies is.
And we can't compare that to Andleeb's deep-rooted immaturity & her impulsive decisions because that'd be comparing apples to oranges. As Sadaf said, her parents raised her SO bad --- and were SO selfish & narcissistic that they just didn't give their daughter agency... Even if they thought (in their mind) that they made the best decision.
The whole Karachi travel thing was absolutely unrealistic & wasn't well executed at all. We didn't know/were told as to how did Andleeb land in the shady salon she ended up getting her job in? Okay, a friend of her paved that way for her (the girl with the uncombed hair), I'd like to know how she met/knew her in a city that is one of the most populous in the world?
And then a random client gives her a 40% profit share in her salon --- why?
We didn't see her learning the salon services thoroughly. She was only shown mopping the floor. So what services did she really give to that client to have deserved such a hefty permanent place in the latter's salon?
And why didn't she not question the latter's safety and or intentions, when her original workplace's owner was such a vile woman?
May be my concerns (particularly with regard to Abdleeb) are too much to ask from a Pakistani drama, but I think they really ruined a story that had such towering potentialities to offer profound lessons to the audience --- particularly desi parents/grandparents etc.
I agree to many of your points but i also fear you are white washing Andaleeb too.
@@MahwashAjaz, I think Andaleeb is a complete product of her shitty parents. Not that her multiple attempts to suicide were worth glorifying and or should be the go-to toolkits for women in her situation. But she wasn't mentally and or emotionally fit to have entered something so sacred and life-altering an insitution such as marriage... Because she didn't even know what she was signing up for/and what did it require out of her? (Notwithstanding that a lot of people grow owing to their healthy partnership support/dynamic) but as Sadaf said, our society just is keen at experimenting with girls' lives and want both women and men --- particularly the women to take on men as projects --- and that then manifests in the form of irresponsible/impulsive/identity-less --- basically broken women such as Andleeb.
Every reviewer besides you two kept asking the same question that how could a mother do this/stay away from her child etc etc.
But I know for a fact that Andleeb wasn't mentally and or emotionally fit enough to be a mother. It is a full time job and a huge responsibility that's why she very casually asked Numair to abort their child, if he didn't want it... I mean which sane woman would want it (unless she has any other traumas otherwise).
Of course one's life experiences shape their personality and Numair's insecurity have made him a person he is which is what we call a human being- good or bad it's very subjective. And it's very easy for men to behave like violently towards the situation Andaleeb was in. But the fact is Numair went out of the way to protect her and showed her the empathy and kindness, a person can't pretend it for that long if they genuinely don't have it. And yes their relationship was more of like fatherly from Numair's side because he never thought Andaleeb to be a person with an equal mental level as him. His actions were very cruel but what Andaleeb did is way worse than him. For me Numair is already on a redemption path as he is taking care of that child and he never picked up that DNA report whereas Deebu has completely lost it!!
@@MahwashAjaz, Andleeb is not at all an exemplary character. But she's a complete product of her parents. And when we are born, we are born like clean canvases, our parents can color/mould/shape us into becoming whatever they wish to. Andleeb was not raised to have her agency over something so sacred and life-altering as marriage. So she's not worth looking up to because she has flaws, but she at least has integrity in what she does. She was such a people-pleaser that just for seeking Numair's validation, she was even willing to abort her own child --- no reasonable woman does that, unless she is physically sick and or has any other significant burdens/comcerns/traumas or as in the west they say, #MyBody #MyChoice is believed by her.
I didn't appreciate her character at all, but I have always had sympathies towards her.
And Numair did what he did, but he operated out of lack of integrity and he had complete control, Andleeb on the other hand didn't have that privilege of choice --- common to how mostly majority of women are in Pakistan.
Had Andleeb not been raised like a thing, but like a child --- had Numair kept at his plan to not have children (when Andleeb and her patents, even Numair's own mother had ignored it after the couple's first meeting), I would have had complete sympathies towards him.
Even if he had hidden his infertility.
After all, the right to have children or not, the choice to adopt or not is not and should not be one person's prerogative only.
@@mariaatariq3713I agree and disagree both!